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Unwatched Gems and Musical Vibes (Hour 2)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Fri Aug 1, 2025
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
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Pete Chwaba.
Welcome to Night Light.
Hey everybody, how you doing?
I am Pete Schwab.
It is a beautiful Friday night here in the state of Wisconsin.
Hope you're having a great day as we head into the weekend.
Lots going on today, lots to discuss.
I'm gonna talk about my ride down tonight.
That's always fun, right, Con?
That's a good time.
Yeah,
yeah.
And we've got lots to discuss.
We've got overzealous Facebook posters.
We're gonna talk about TV shows.
We've been meaning to watch, but haven't.
And kissing a girl on screen as part of a role, actor Neil McDonough says he would never do it, and it's cost him work.
So we'll discuss that.
Lots of controversial topics to get to in the way of show business tonight.
We're gonna talk about movies and TV and comedy and music and all kinds of great stuff that makes us happy, especially heading into the weekend.
Working the board tonight, as always, is Conrad Krieger.
Hello.
Hey, buddy.
It is it's you know, it's getting down today.
You know, I checked the app today the weather app.
Oh, I'm
14.
Oh
God, you know what?
I went to bed last night.
It's funny you mentioned that I was little my eyes were tearing burning.
Yes, and When I got home my wife had a lot of the windows open and I don't think the air bothered her because the night before I left the air on just because the
But does that even matter like you're still getting air from the outside?
Maybe it's filtered a little bit, but I don't know if that really helps that much or not, but
Yeah, so it you know, it's I hope it gets down.
I hope Canada is like all right.
We let's stop putting it to them Let's leave it in Canada,
right?
It's not really much they could do.
I mean trees were struck by lightning.
It's not really a
But it does seem to it's just like the third year in a row.
Maybe it's come from Canada.
I don't know but we'll get through it We'll figure it out folks and we'll do it together.
I have some fun guests tonight Coming up at 635.
This is gonna be fun.
We've got Spencer young He's a great artist who is local here to northeast Wisconsin and Green Bay and he posts he paints murals and cleats and all this cool stuff.
He painted a couple murals
for the studio here in Green Bay with a football.
So we'll talk to Spencer at 635.
He will be here in person.
That'll be a, that'll be a gas, as they say.
And then it is a bar band Friday night, folks.
So Terry Barr, our Wisconsin music expert and host of Max Inc Radio, which you can hear on WMDX Saturday nights from six to nine.
We'll be here as well, bringing local music as she does every week.
And she's got a couple of great, did you listen to the music she sent?
Actually, I didn't get to listen
to it yet.
Oh, it's so good.
There's a group called Bascom Hill, I assume named after Bascom Hill in Madison, but they have a great song called, you never gonna guess what it's called.
Bascom Hill?
No,
light it
up.
Oh, okay.
That's
their song, light it up.
I mean, could there be a more perfect song for this show?
And to play that song in this show will be a blast.
And that's at 735 when Terry drops by.
Lots of stuff.
Okay.
I want to discuss this because there's this actor Neil McDonough Neil McDonough and You know, he's just like he's you know, he's one of those actors you'd know his face if you saw him Very well traveled as an actor.
He's been in a ton of stuff
You know how I know him mostly from He was the bad guy in Paul Blart Mall cop to
a Mall cop to that's a deep dive.
Holy smokes.
He's the bad guy in it really
Yeah.
All right.
Well, his deal is, and he's a good actor, handsome guy.
He refuses to kiss another woman on the big screen or the small screen.
He won't do it.
He's very devoted to his wife.
He says he does not want to kiss another woman.
And he says it's cost him work.
Like studios won't go near him.
They won't.
They just won't offer him roles.
Now, this is a few years ago.
He's had, you know, he's kind of
made a little bit of a comeback, but he said it cost him roles until finally, Graham Yost, one of the producers of Justified, great show with Timothy Oliphant, offered him a role as a bad guy.
Because he has a good actor, and he has a really cool look.
I mean, he plays such a good bad guy.
Oh,
yeah.
I mean, he was in Red 2 as well, and he was a bad guy as well.
Was he in Yellowstone
2,
maybe?
Yeah.
He's
in everything.
You know, I think he's done enough work, though, because I'm just on IMDB right now.
It says 148 credits.
Yeah.
Oh,
yeah, he's he's a pretty decent amount.
He's halfway to our pal Richard really.
Yeah.
Who's got like, actually he's got like 350.
But Neil McDonough, yeah, good actor, minority report, boomtown, Captain America, the first Avenger in 2011, great resume.
And the guy was not starving, even if he took a year or two off, as long as he was living smartly or within his means, I'm sure he was fine.
But
He says he lost his swagger, his confidence as an actor.
He felt like less of a man, because he wasn't working as much, because people weren't offering him roles.
And I respect a person who sticks to their principles, but it's just kissing.
And you make good money.
And usually the person you're kissing is pretty attractive.
And here, this is the sexist in me.
I understand why women wouldn't do it.
But man, if you're a guy, and here's why I'm saying this, his wife doesn't care.
He says it has nothing to do with her saying it.
She doesn't care.
It's just that he loves his wife and he doesn't want to kiss anyone else.
Well, good for him, you know?
Sure.
Look, I did it.
In my movie, The Godfather of Green Bay, I had to do an intimate scene with Lauren Holly.
It's not comfortable.
I'm not a hero.
You wrote it in yourself.
I did
write it in
myself.
And it is weird though.
It's a weird, uncomfortable thing.
There's nothing really sexy about it, at least not in my case.
She was great, she was a trooper, but there were eight people in the room filming this.
It's not like you don't get the sense you're cheating.
I was happily married at the time, still I am, but I did get home for Thanksgiving that year.
We shot in October in Marinette.
I went back to LA, came back for Thanksgiving, and I showed a rough cut.
to my family and my mother-in-law looks at me during that scene and says, you cad.
And I, you know, I get it, you know, she was half kidding.
But that's, it's kind of, I admire him because it's kind of a gutsy stand to say I'm not doing that.
But also it's like, just do it.
Yeah.
It's acting.
Yeah.
That's the biggest thing.
It's acting.
It's not real.
Yeah.
You know, in the next movie that you.
Would you mind writing a kissing for me?
You just
tell me what you want to do.
Was Sydney
Sweeney?
Sydney Sweeney, I've heard of her work.
Start with her soap and then I'll write a kissing scene for you.
Sounds good, sounds good.
Make out with a bar of her soap.
We'll talk.
Oh, that's funny.
We have that promo where we're talking about Sydney Sweeney's soap.
And I said, you know, what if she stinks?
You know, I know she's pretty and all that, but what if she smells really bad?
And I extended an offer.
I said, Sydney, come by.
the nightlight studios, I'll smell you and I'll let you know if it's a good product.
For free too.
For free, exactly.
Hell, listen, I throw an airfare out of my own pocket.
No, but my daughter heard that and she goes,
dad
and her cousins were about her age.
Like they didn't get really the humor.
It was kind of
weird.
I'm like, I'm obviously kidding.
My daughter has a great sense of humor, but it's still just the idea of her father smelling another one.
So I need to steal McDonough's onto something.
I don't know.
Hey, I think we should get to the nightlight question of the night.
Let's talk about the question.
Okay, question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
Hey, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Question.
Questions.
All right.
What is a TV show you've wanted to watch, but haven't yet?
What's a TV show you just haven't gotten around to watching it, but it's on your list.
You want to check it out.
And the inspiration for tonight's question of the night comes because I just finished Dexter last night, season one.
And it was, it came out in 2006.
My wife watched it years ago, said it was good.
I just never got to it.
It really, to be honest, did not interest me.
I was like, wasn't really into serial killer stuff, but good writing is good writing.
It's a good show.
I finished the first season.
It wasn't totally what I expected.
They kind of kept me guessing, even though I figured out one of the elements of the story, but it was just really well done, well acted.
And I'm going to stick with it.
And I think there's like seven seasons or something.
So I'm probably going to be on a bit of a dexter kick for the next few weeks.
And I know that Lisa Hale, the host of New WISCO Weekend, which you can check out tomorrow morning at 8 p.m.
here on WGBW and WISS.
She's a big Dexter fan and she wants to come on the show and talk about Dexter with me.
That's a dedicated Dexter fan right there.
Yeah, and Lisa scares me so I'm gonna let her do it No, she Lisa's great.
She's a big I love her takes on TV and movies, so we'll definitely line that up Soon, but yeah, it's a good show.
So that's mine.
I kind of just did it, but there are a few others too.
I Haven't watched The Gilded Age yet, although that's relatively new
I only watched one season of Mad Men.
I'll probably go back to that, but there are a few shows I haven't gotten to that I would like to, but what are yours?
855-752-4842, 855-75 Civic.
Let us know what show you've wanted to watch, but haven't gotten around to it yet.
What's yours, Conn?
You know,
last year I watched the show on Peacock called The Resort, and it was fantastic.
It was with Kristen Malorty.
Malorty?
I don't know how ever you say it, but...
Kristen Malorty.
I don't know who that is, yeah.
Um, I really liked that show and I was like, I don't think peacock can beat this.
So I haven't watched a peacock show since that show.
And I, I have been meaning to give it another try and watch a poker face.
You know what?
I, that was one for me.
I started watching it about a month ago and I got through five episodes and it's good.
It is.
It is good.
And Natasha Leona is good.
It is one of those things where, I guess it's like Colombo in the sense, I never really watched Colombo.
That was a little bit before my time, but like, I didn't understand, she's just a regular person who always every week finds herself solving a murder.
It's like, well, come on, at least make her a PI or, so that part of it was just, but it is well done for what it is.
I just had trouble with that kind of mechanism, but I did like it.
It is a good show.
All right, I might give, you know, Peacock a chance.
I don't think they can beat the show that I really liked.
So I haven't.
So you're condemning
the whole thing.
They did a good thing, but I don't trust them to beat that song.
Exactly.
So I'm saying.
I did start watching another show called Love and Death on HBO.
I watched it about two weeks ago.
I just watched the pilot, Jesse Plemmons, Ashley Olson.
It's set in like 1980 and they have an affair.
They're two churchgoing people and they have their own family.
and they have an affair, and I didn't get into it enough to find out who dies, but there is a murder on the show, and then it becomes kind of a mystery.
So I'll probably go back to that, but if you like watching couples fall in love to 70s music, like the Bee Gees, it is kind of cool.
It's got like a cool aesthetic to it, so.
But you can weigh in, folks.
Let us know the show that got away, 8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2-8-5-5-7-5-CIVIC.
You can text us on the app or drop us a comment on the stream if you're watching on X YouTube or Facebook.
And let us know.
You can also weigh in on the kissing thing.
Would you kiss someone if you were in a movie or would you pull a Neil McDonough and say, no, I'm not kissing anybody except my wife?
And I assume he's held fast to that because I don't think he cave.
Now he's like in his 60s, too.
It's like, probably circumvented a lot of those kind of roles.
We
hope.
I don't have a girlfriend.
I don't have a problem with it.
You're like,
somebody hire me.
You need to kiss her.
Naked Gun opens this weekend too.
Very excited to see that.
It's reviewing very well on Rotten Tomatoes.
I think 92% was the last time I checked.
And there are other movies that review hire from a fresh standpoint on Rotten Tomatoes, but for a comedy and a silly comedy,
To rank that high is pretty cool.
So all right, we're gonna read your text when we come back and I'm gonna tell you about an I'm gonna tell you about someone who posted something on Facebook that really ticked me off It's Beachwabba and Nightlight great to have you with me on the Civic Media radio
network
Welcome
back.
This is a Friday night edition of Nightlight, one of my favorite nights of the week.
Definitely top five, but I love them all and I can't wait till Monday.
But for now, we're just gonna enjoy the moment.
We're gonna talk about some of the things we really like to talk about here.
Coming up in just a few minutes.
Spencer Young, local artist who paints really cool stuff, murals, cleats, and sometimes he paints with a football, as I understand
it.
He did.
He did last time he was on Mind on the Mirror.
He did last time he was in the studio.
He did that.
That's pretty cool.
That's great.
It'll be good to have Spencer here in just a few minutes and then...
It's a bar band Friday night ladies and gentlemen.
735 Terry Barr drops by with new music.
She has her finger on the pulse of the Wisconsin music scene as always and has picked out a great one of the songs is called light it up.
And we may have to, we may have to grab that one and put that in the box.
Yeah.
I love that Kailin Cole song.
It's a great song.
So well done.
All right.
So I have to get this off my chest.
People post stuff on Facebook.
Nothing is off limits.
They post pictures of their food, like they'll get a plate at a restaurant and post the food.
Like, yeah, I've seen mashed potatoes and meat.
But whatever, okay, you're excited about your meal.
Here's what drives me bananas, all right?
I have a Facebook friend who will remain nameless, Jennifer.
No, this person posted, they took a hike with their family.
And they called it hike day and they posted like the five main pictures you see the teasers or whatever and then if you click on the sixth window a hundred and fourteen photos of Trees and walking I mean Who is ever gonna
look at that many pictures?
That's like a step per picture you think right?
Yeah, a hundred and fourteen steps is a hike That's me making food in my kitchen
But it's just like come on 114 and whatever.
I don't have to look it didn't it's not like it bothers me I'm just like I would never take the time to do that and I guess uploading is easy And maybe she just didn't want to go through all of them So I'll just post all but what if you get the accidental one of your husband coming out of the bathroom or the kids scraping their knee or something like You got to go through give us some highlights give us three three or four.
I'll look at yeah
Because they're great people.
Oh, I want to see how this was.
I'm not clicking on a hundred and fourteen Photos of a hike through Durk County.
You know what to make it awkward.
You know what you should do?
You should go through and like every single one
That's like stalker ish,
that's like restraining order just the notifications a hundred fourteen peach wobble like
that is oh my god, that would be hilarious
Or I'll do a laugh face for one, then a surprise look for the other one, and then a thumbs up, and she won't be able to go, well, why did he surprise this one, but laugh at this one?
This one's not funny.
The fourth tree is always surprising, you know.
It's like, I can see sky in this one.
What?
So, all right, I got that off my chest.
And then driving down here, I had, again, the two people going the same speed, taking up both lanes for about, it was probably only about five minutes.
but on my head this has gone on for like two hours and I'm like just please you live in a society one of you slow down
you know remember yesterday when you had a mosquito flying around you
oh that was weird yeah
you know it's like how does it today had the same thing I get home and there's a fly in my in my in my apartment like my windows are closed I have the AC on how
did
this happen I was chasing that fly for literally an hour trying to kill it because you can't relax
Don't want the flight landing on me.
You know, it's work like not worse But almost as bad to me is twice the summer.
I've had one of those huge moths Oh, it's like a bird and they flap their wings and you can hear it going Like around the lamp or the fireplace and I can't I can't relax because it's like It's not it's not like you're scared of it or it's gonna hurt you same with a fly But it's so irritating when like when they land on you.
Oh that Flies are filthy.
I get a trick for you for that turn off all the lights and you turn on one
I've done that.
And it flies to it.
Usually that works.
Yeah.
But I had one about, I don't know, three weeks ago.
That was in my daughter's room.
And I tried that in the thing.
This was not his first rodeo.
He knew what I was up to.
All right, let's read some texts.
Our question tonight, folks, is what is a TV show you've been meaning to get to, but just haven't quite gotten around to it.
I'm in the middle of one of mine.
I just finished season one of Dexter.
I did that with poker face.
And then love and death I'm kind of I'm gonna go back to that one but that one is a little Like the first the whole first episode Was these two married people falling in love?
Jesse Plemmons and Ashley Olson, and they're both good But it's kind of like I hate to this sounds awful, but get to the murder.
You know get to the mystery part of it
So I've got a few of them.
Let us know what yours are.
855-752-4842-855-75 Civic.
Let's go to the stream.
Drew Mania.
Love that.
Drew Mania says, great show.
Thank you, Drew Mania.
Is that our Drew?
I'm not sure.
I know he listens sometimes.
He's a good dude.
All right, thank you, Drew Mania.
Appreciate the text and thank you for listening.
Dave on the stream says, yes, Dexter.
I'm with you, Dave.
As you know, Band of Brothers, Game of Thrones.
Band of Brothers, I could add.
I've never seen Band of Brothers.
It's supposed to be great.
It's a Tom Hanks playtone effort.
And I think it scared me off.
It's like the mini series thing.
Like it's a commitment, you know?
And I don't know why, like I watch whole seasons of shows, but yeah, I got to check out Band of Brothers.
And Game of Thrones was one of mine too, but I banged that one out about two years ago.
I
mean, do you
got
five months?
Yeah, I know.
And that's one that...
It can be depressing if you watch too many in a row.
When Joffrey's that whole plot with Joffrey, that takes a toll on you.
The red wedding.
Yeah.
It was just awful.
So that's our question of the night.
We have a local artist coming up in just a few minutes, folks.
Spencer Young is in the studio, very excited to have him here.
And it is a bar band Friday night, 7.35 PM, our pal Terry Bart drops by.
Let us know too if you want to weigh in on the kissing issue with Neil McDonough, very devoted husband.
Is he too devoted?
Got to put food on the table.
We'll read some of your texts in a little while, so keep them coming and great to have you with me.
This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight and you've got the Civic Media Radio
Network.
Happy Friday, everybody.
This is Pete Schwabba in Nightlight.
Great to have you with me tonight.
We've got lots of fun scheduled.
Got a great question.
If you are so inclined, let us know.
What is the TV show that got away?
What have you been meaning to watch, but you just haven't gotten to it yet?
I said Dexter.
What was your answer, Conn?
I said Poker Face.
Poker Face, that's right.
And I said I've seen some Poker Face episodes.
Pretty good.
So, that's our question tonight.
You can also weigh in on the Neil McDonough kissing thing.
It was in my Hollywood beats.
Was it today or yesterday?
It was yesterday.
Okay.
So, he refused to kiss a woman that was not his wife, even though he was cast in a movie or a TV show.
That was just, you know, that was, uh, he wasn't gonna do it.
And he thinks it cost him some work, cost him some self-confidence, but eventually he got back into it and people understood.
People are pretty much good, and he's a good actor.
So, they started casting him again, but...
I don't know man.
I don't think uh Well, I did do it in a movie.
So I I would just do it Conrad is begging to do it And we'll ask our next guest what he thinks too.
He is a local artist here in northeast Wisconsin who joins me in studio now.
He's the founder of forever young designs Artist Spencer young welcome.
How are you?
Thanks for having
me?
Hey, it's great to have you
I've seen your work because you've you've painted here in the studio before.
Yep, and it's pretty
It's pretty cool.
Tell me that what I saw you do were two, you did like classic packer photos, but you have an interesting way of painting.
Please tell us about that.
Yeah, I kind of, when I run with an idea, I just go full throttle with it.
So the idea was to, you know, normally paint with a paintbrush.
That's too normal.
I took a football cleat and a football, and that's the only thing I use to paint.
those images.
That's unbelievable.
What part of the cleat?
Not the actual cleat.
Oh, yeah.
So everything.
So I utilized the shoelaces as kind of like a little fine detail brush.
The toe as to cover more surface area on the canvas with the paint.
Like, yeah, just, it's kind of fun just challenging myself with different, you know, ideas and possibilities.
And hopefully, you know, I can incorporate in my future stuff.
And if it fails, it fails.
And I never visit that again.
That's the great thing about, like, I love when artists figure out a fresh approach to something, something that hasn't been done before, something new and unique.
Before we get into too much of your work, though, tell us, tell me a little bit about you, Spencer, your background, personally.
Yeah, I grew up in a small town just outside Green Bay, Shiacton, when I graduated high school there.
I went to St.
Norbert, played a little college football for a couple years and graduated with a...
Bachelor of Arts degree with emphasis of graphic design What corporate a little little bit wasn't my cup of tea and I decided to take a chance on myself I always had a ability to draw and paint and Within like that first month being on my own I got a phone call asking to paint the iconic Packer fence outside Lambeau field.
So you painted that that is
so
cool
Yeah, so all right, we'll get to that too.
But why didn't you like like the corporate stuff?
is where the money's at, I would
imagine.
Was it too limiting?
It restricted my creativity.
Everything's super brand standard, to say the least.
When you're using the color, like a mute, puke green color over and over and over again, it kind of gets boring.
They don't even want
that to be
flashy.
No.
I know I could be doing something that I enjoy.
You know, it's not like I didn't enjoy working in the corporate setting.
It was just like, not what I wanted to do.
It wasn't my purpose in life.
So.
You know what's interesting?
I'm not trying to like, probably bash corporate anything, but because when I, I'm still a writer, but when I was making most of my money writing, I wrote screenplays.
But when you write a screenplay, it's like, you don't know.
where to start almost.
It's like, it's 120 pages.
What do I do?
What I liked about freelancing for corporations or studios was they gave you parameters.
Sometimes that's a relief.
Don't you think creatively you're like, okay, I got to do whatever I can within this framework.
Yeah, it's nice to have a little structure.
You know, that's why too, like I freelance graphic design.
So like when someone gets me like a set task where, you know, certain guidelines I need to follow, it's nice.
But then there's times where I'm like, well, I kind of just want to go crazy and see what I can come up with on my own.
And
That's why I'm doing what I'm doing right now.
Well, good for you
for
starting your own business too.
What kind of stuff do you do at Forever Young Designs?
Are it commissions
or is it people?
My philosophy is if I could throw paint on something, it sticks.
basically anything, so murals, paintings on canvases, I have customized cleats and shoes and jackets, hats, graphic design work, pretty much anything art related.
I've probably dabbled in it a time or two.
Who comes, who hires you?
Like who, like if I'm a regular guy, if I'm a business, what do you...
How does that work?
What would people hire you for to do cool invitations a big mural or
like anything?
Generally, it's just like a random message like it can be like, you know 11 o'clock at night It could be right away in the morning.
Just hey, would you be interested in painting a mural?
Would you be interested in painting shoes?
So it's like something it's something new every day, you know, I
That's what I really enjoy about it.
Cause it's like, you never know what the next day is going to bring.
How long did it take you?
You said you got a call kind of quickly, but how long did it take you to the point where you were, this is what you do.
So I was like a month in on my own painting one mural.
And then I had that phone call asking to paint that Packers fence.
And I just kind of rolled with it.
And, you know, my work got kind of out there in the area and, you know,
Build connections and just talk with a bunch of people and people see my work and
it's got to help when you have a big It's like a billboard
kind of drive
by who did that?
Yeah, definitely So tell us about that tell us about the the Packer fence.
Yeah, what was your inspiration for that?
So like I said the owner reached out to me because it has been a tradition in the community that you know is
pretty well known if you're in the community, uh, they wanted to continue that tradition.
And every year we just come up with a specific theme to like that would tailor that season.
So, uh, the, the one season, like when Rogers threw the Hail Mary pass at Ford field, the, the home opener for that season was against Detroit.
So we did, uh,
homage to that play.
Let's just say there were not a lot of happy Detroit Lions fans.
Maybe
did a little painting of their own late at
night after a few drinks over your
creation.
So, all right.
And then you did some stuff
down the street here, right?
Yeah, a little bit everywhere, I guess.
So I do a lot in the Green Bay community.
I've traveled as far as New York, installing murals, Texas.
Uh, gonna be going out to Indiana here pretty quick to install another one right outside Indianapolis.
Wow.
Yeah.
So getting out of Wisconsin too.
Wow.
Nice.
So, uh, what's the meaning?
Where did you come up with for every young design?
So it's got like layers, I guess.
So my last name's young.
So kind of wanted to pay homage to like not only myself, but like the people that kind of brought me to the situation I'm in today.
So I had amazing parents that, you know, supported me in my crazy endeavors and, you know, come from a very small town.
So when I say you want to be an artist, you know, there's some parents that might be a little skeptical at first, but mine were like all on board, you know, they supported what I wanted to do.
So.
With that being said, I just wanted to make sure I was carrying a legacy at the end of the day.
My guest is Spencer Young.
He's the founder of Forever Young Designs and a local artist here in Northeast Wisconsin.
Although we just found out he's starting to go everywhere and bring his art to different communities.
Let me ask you something.
With my background too, I get asked that question.
Oh, my kid wants to do this, but I say they should have a fallback.
And I always say,
Don't have a fallback.
Do
what you want to do.
You can always go back to school Yeah, and then throw yourself into something else, but setting yourself up in You know almost expecting to fail.
Yeah, that doesn't that doesn't work for me I tell my kids that too.
I'm like go full throttle with that support yourself Yep, but go at it with everything
you've have and then see where you're at Yeah, I always say if if I had any doubt when I first started I would have never attempted to do it, you know, cuz like I always
like I watch a lot of like shows you know and like the cartoon and anime shows you know there it's always the protagonist is always a positive attitude that's kind of how I approach life too it's like you know you don't want to have any negative thoughts or like ideas that you're not going to be successful in what you want to pursue so like for me like I always had the mentality it's like I'm gonna go big or go home right nothing's gonna stop me
Good for you.
You're not like going to law school during the day doing your art
at night.
I'll stick on one thing.
I'll make sure I give everything I got in one category.
You gotta.
Otherwise, you know, you can always, like I said, you can always switch gears.
I love too, there was this comedian named Charles Fleischer who was in the Roger Rabbit movies as a voice and he was a comedian.
He said, when people came up to him and said, I want to be a comedian, what do you think?
He always said, don't do it.
And he said, if that was enough to get them not to do it,
they never would have made it anyway.
I'm not quite that harsh, but he's got a point.
So for what you do, is there competition around here?
Do you have the market?
Are you the guy people come to paint?
I don't really think of it as competition.
I feel like it's a big enough sandbox that anyone can...
have their opportunities.
So whenever I see another artist have a project, I'm good for them.
That's amazing.
I'm their fan too.
Because at the end of the day, I don't think there's really rivalry.
I think there should be just healthy competition almost, whereas we should support each other because we're all just in the same field and we all want to be successful at the end of the day.
And ideally, learn from each other to some degree or be inspired by each other.
We were talking before you came on I said my cousin does Are he paints with two hands and he does
he
shows and he's down in Chicago So he paints a lot of Chicago sports stuff and and they've since moved but I'm fascinated like what is your style?
Does it have a name
and not really I just think it's inspired by a lot of things from my experiences growing up So a lot of artists influenced my work.
Oh, like I said a lot of life experiences.
I just
I pick up a brush and whatever my brain tells me to paint, I just paint it.
So if somebody said, oh yeah, Spencer Young, he's that blank artist,
what would they say?
It's kind of funny because I notice people will say, oh, I know that's a Spencer Young original right there, but it's like, I can't see that.
Like for me, it just comes naturally.
So I don't know what is the giveaway that makes it my own artwork.
Do
you have influences like Pollock or Picasso, whatever, do you have
people
that influenced you?
Yeah, so Dr. Seuss, I love Dr. Seuss.
Like if you ever look up his like dark series paintings, like definitely 180 from what you normally see in the children's books.
Then David Cho, that's always a fascinating character.
He's the one that painted the headquarters at Facebook, and then instead of getting a payment,
he invested in the stock at Facebook and they became essentially when they went public, like $300 million or something.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
So I
should have
held out for more money.
I
know it's
like, I
want a free Facebook account
done.
Right.
Well, and it's like, that's the cool thing.
It's like, it's not just his artwork, but I love that he took a chance on himself and like, you know, it really paid off.
You know, there's
If I'm one to gamble, I don't go to casino, but I gamble on myself a lot for my opportunities.
So that's
what you should gamble
on, right?
Exactly.
No, you're going to show up and do the job and not have to rely on others.
You were recently on ESPN.
How did that call come through?
And what was that like?
Kind of crazy.
I had a phone call from a producer.
He asked me.
You're the artist that paints the fences around the area.
I said, yes, I am.
And we got your contact information from someone that works in the studio here.
And we'd love to do like a small segment with you.
And I said, lucky for you, I'm painting a mural in the area.
So if you want to stop by with the cameras and talk to me, then yeah, we can make that happen.
So
that's pretty cool.
All right.
We're going to find out, I'm going to ask Spencer what he painted when he was on ESPN.
When we come back and we'll find out more about this.
Up-and-coming artist who is right here in Northeast Wisconsin is pretty cool and we'll ask him about the show that got away, too That's coming up next after this very short break on nightlight with peach waba on the civic media radio
network
Welcome back folks.
We are lighting it up here on a Friday night from downtown Green Bay as we broadcast statewide here on the Civic Media Radio Network.
So great to have you with me.
My guest at the moment is Spencer Young.
Local artist here in Green Bay, although he is more nationally recognized now, we were talking before the break about how he was recently featured on ESPN.
Did you paint something specific for that appearance?
Yes, I actually painted a fence in someone's backyard.
So Green Bay themed and it was right across Lambeau Field.
be a better setting for that.
What was ESPN like?
Were they just kind of like letting you do your thing?
Or was
it just wanting to tell me?
Oh yeah, they just said pain and we'll ask you questions.
And I talked with Shea.
I think she was live at training camp reporting.
So I had the ear pods in and everything, listening to her talk.
Are
you a Packer fan?
Oh, 100%.
Yeah, no doubt.
I wouldn't be doing this if I wasn't.
You
wouldn't be an artist if you weren't
a Packer fan?
Well, I wouldn't be like, so I actually work with a lot of the Packer players and too would I customize like football cleats and shoes.
So I would say a good majority of my work is with the players too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How do you do that?
How do you paint cleats?
I mean, is it a special kind of paint that doesn't wear
off?
Yeah, it's basically trial and error and a lot of prep work is involved.
So like the best way to describe it is
If you want to paint your vehicle, like obviously you sand it, you acetone, wipe it down.
Then you do like thin coats of paint and then basically you have a nice shiny car.
It's the same thing with shoes too.
Nice.
It lasts like it.
Yeah.
I mean, like it has this natural wear and tear after a while, you know, but like for the most part, yeah, they hold up pretty good.
So our question of the night.
is what's the TV show that got away when you've been meaning to watch.
And a lot of people have said Dexter, myself included.
You were a huge fan of the show.
Oh, 100%.
Yeah, that's, now they got the new series coming out.
So it started rewatching that.
And then if I had to say the one that I need to watch, it just came out yesterday.
So, and that's twisted metal.
Oh, yeah,
you tell
me about that during the break.
What is
that show now?
So it's like based on a video game So like I remember being a kid and I played that game all the time, you know, it's kind of like a battle royale game.
Yeah, so they made an adaptation to it and Yeah, the first season was amazing now season two is here and it's gonna even get better I think exciting when you have like a whole show to look forward to like
oh for sure
You
watch movies.
Yeah, I do.
Yeah, what have you seen?
Pretty much everything this
summer.
No, I haven't
Okay, yeah, so when you say you've seen pretty much everything you mean like I mean like just all genres in general.
Yeah, so there's nothing that you know when There's there's always something out there for me to watch.
Yeah.
Nice
So all right tell people where they can see your work Spencer.
You have your website.
So yeah, um, www.foreveryoungdesigns.com I'm on social media.
So Instagram Facebook, but yeah, I post right on daily
So, you can see my art quite frequently if you're following me, so...
That's so great.
Can we put some of his art up on the stream?
If you're watching on the stream, folks, on YouTube, Facebook, or... So, I've seen that.
You
did that.
That's
so
cool.
How long does
that take you?
A day.
One day?
Yeah, so, as tradition for the past, like, 10 seasons, I'll wake up at the crack of dawn, paint there until...
Basically the song goes down.
So if you're watching in the stream folks, we're looking at it's a picture of Jordan Love winding up the throw a pass.
It says my Packers go pack and what else?
Yeah, I love my packers.
I love I love so and love.
Okay.
God.
It's the paying homage to Eddie J's poker song.
I love my green.
Oh,
yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So what was that like when you you just said you're a huge pack of anger played football at St.
Norbert's your northeast Wisconsin guy
When you got a contract from the Packers and when you were commissioned by them, how high
were you?
And that's the thing.
It's not really a contract by the Packers itself, but it's like a local resident in the area.
And he asked me, this is just tradition.
And I already knew, growing up, what the fence was.
My grandpa, who's also an artist, and I should have mentioned him as an artist that influenced me.
He was the biggest Packer fan I ever knew.
So like, unfortunately, he passed away before I started doing all this.
And I know he's grinning ear to ear, you know, when he saw that opportunity, because he knows what the fence was.
So it's kind of cool that like something that I would hang out with him, like drawing at the table, creating art.
And now, like, you know, get to kind of pass that along.
It's cool too, you were
talking about during the break about your dad who poured concrete.
Yeah.
Very different than what you do.
Yeah, he's happy that I found what I wanted to do.
I know he said he just didn't want me to bust my back like he did, you know, and I know how hard he's worked throughout his whole life and to make sure I had a good opportunity.
You do kind of look
like
you could like...
lift blocks of
concrete
don't just install it.
Don't be wrong.
I'd held them in the summer, you know, but it wasn't anything too strenuous.
Are you doing something this year for the start of the season?
Do you have anything lined up?
Yeah.
So the plan is to paint something.
It's always the day before the first home opener.
So it'd be September 7th, but
We had a couple of ideas in the work.
It's normally a surprise when like the fans come in.
So got to keep it on the download till then.
Yeah.
So
that's a little bit of a teaser.
When will they be able to see what you've done?
Yeah.
Right at the home opener.
The
home
opener.
Yep.
Can you say where it will be or?
Yep.
The same fence.
So that fence gets painted every year.
OK.
Yeah.
So it's funny because like the we had to replace the fence one year because there was so much paint on it.
Yeah, like and it was like kind of weighing it down a little bit.
So
can we pull up another of Spencer's paintings con
Chris Farley?
That's awesome.
That's my hero That is so cool.
Yeah, he's one of my favorite.
I actually did a recent Chris Farley painting too.
It's a quote from
dirty jobs or dirty works.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I was with the skunk.
I can't remember what the quote was, but I had to make sure I incorporated that quote in one of my
paintings.
So.
So all right.
If you want to, if you want to learn more about Spencer's work, follow him on the socials, go to his website.
He does great work.
This was fun, man.
Thank
you for
coming in.
I really
appreciate
it.
No, I appreciate you having me, you know, my pleasure.
And thank you for the Dexter endorsement because I'm going to.
the better part of the next few weeks.
I'm gonna be wrapped
up catching up on that too.
Spencer Young folks, check out his work.
We are coming back for act two after intermission.
It is a bar band Friday night, folks.
Terry Barr will be here at 7.35 and we will read your texts coming up next.
It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now, a guy who believes a penny saved is in Jack... Pete Chwaba.
Welcome back.
Ladies and gentlemen for act two of tonight's episode of night light Hope you all were able to use the restroom or get some more Candy popcorn candy pizza.
Let's get set for hour number two here We got a lot of fun still headed our way Terry bar will be here our Wisconsin music aficionado and she's got two great bands We're gonna discuss tonight at her during her appearance at 735 Terry is batting afoul.
I'm sure there's one song
In a year and a half.
I haven't liked but I can't remember it.
I think she's been a thousand
and it's not even that I wouldn't have liked it I just it was kind of like some stuff is great, you know and some stuff is really good Probably forgot about a really good time Terry will be here at 735 for bar ban Friday night and We've got a great question tonight folks
I started watching Dexter recently and it's been one of those shows that I've heard a lot of good stuff about.
It was a Showtime show that came out in 2006.
I just never watched it.
And there are a lot of shows like that that I kind of meant to watch but didn't.
So that is the inspiration for tonight's question.
What's a TV show?
You've wanted to watch but just haven't.
It just got away.
You got busy with life.
It happens.
But what is the show that got away eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five civic for me It was Dexter Conrad said poker face.
Yep.
So and poker face is good That was one of those two that I hence and you know the other one kind of went on a roll like a week ago I watched like three pilot episodes one of them was The Queen's Gambit.
Oh,
yeah, and I watched the beginning and I liked it because I just had watched a department cue
And it's the same creator.
So I'll go back to the Queen's Gambit, but I didn't like it as much as Department Q. That's
about
chess, right?
Yeah.
Well, it's yeah, it's in the chess world.
I don't know how deeply they get into chess because I only watched the first episode, which was a lot about her background.
And she was an orphan and her mom was, you know, her dad was married to someone else.
And it was all this drama for this, this girl.
But
it was a good
story.
I'll go back to
it.
I've been thinking about making a TV show about checkers.
The double jump
gambit.
So the king me gambit.
So while you're playing checkers, they're playing chess Hey, man, I want a piece of that action.
Um,
I'll write you in with the, you know, the Sydney Sweeney.
Yeah.
Well, Oh man.
Are they restocked or so?
By the way, can we get our
hands on
a case
still sold out?
You know, I had the 30 pack that I bought.
Yeah, it's already gone.
It's gone.
I used it
And was there a hole in the bar of soap or not?
Because this uncomfortably came up last night with my brother and his kids were in town, and my kids and his kids were discussing this in front of the grandparents.
And all I could think about was, do my parents know why there would be a hole?
You always think your parents don't know stuff, but they do.
So that's where we're at, folks.
We also talked in the first hour about actor Neil McDonough.
He refuses, he's a very good actor.
If you saw his face or if you Google him right now, you'll recognize him.
Like he's one of those guys.
He's a working actor.
He's all over the place and he's really good.
He refuses to kiss another woman on camera.
And he stuck to his guns and he says it cost him a lot of work.
So you can weigh in on that too.
He didn't, I don't know how long he went without work, but you know, eventually Graham Yoast, the producer of Justified gave him a gig.
brought him onto the show justified.
He played a bad guy opposite Timothy Olyphant.
And he is, I don't think he's starving, but on the one hand, I applaud him for not kissing anyone other than his wife on screen.
His wife is an actress and she's apparently very attractive, but she says, I don't have a problem with him.
If you wanted to kiss another woman, it's just him.
And as I mentioned in the beats or something so sweet about that.
but so strange.
So you're gonna weigh in on that too?
Would you kiss someone else on screen?
As someone who's done it, I can say it's not, it doesn't really feel like cheating because there's just people in the room, it's very mechanical.
Maybe that's just how I am.
Well, like
we said before, you did write it yourself.
I did write it myself.
I think I'm gonna need another woman to come in and join this too.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, another rewrite last minute.
Um, no, and I got lucky because Lauren Holly was the actress who I was with in the scene and she Had done that kind of stuff before so I was just gonna go into it You know, whatever and she kind of said we should hang out a little before just to talk a little bit So we did that so by the time the scene came up like there is kind of a method to it and now they have intimacy coaches and I think that's not a bad idea because I think a lot of women in particular were thrown into these
Rolls where they were just forced to do stuff or felt pressured to do stuff and not just what there were probably men too that were young and didn't want to say anything but felt really strange I'm not one of them But anyway you can weigh in on that too folks anything we're talking about you can let us know how you feel the phone lines are open and Conrad did you ever watch a sex in the city?
I think I watched like one episode maybe a long time ago because I saw the word sex in it
Probably really let down was 11 there was sex in it, but it was just not you know the kind probably I'm not gonna touch that one My wife watch it she was a big fan, and it is finally this Whole franchise is coming to an end.
There've been like six seasons.
I think five or six seasons two movies And now there's a reboot called in just like that.
That's finally going away But let us know folks
Let's get into act two.
We got to read some texts and catch up here a little bit Terry bars coming up at 735 for bar ban Friday night one of our favorite segments of the week Our question once again is what is the TV show that got away?
Do you just haven't seen yet?
But you've always meant to Let's go to the text line and see what people have to say.
We've got Kevin in Madison Did Kevin leave his his why did he leave his email?
Oh
Why'd you send him an email?
Let's see what's up.
Thank you, Kevin, for your email.
I don't want to guess.
Send him a mailer.
Such a vague term.
I'll say hi.
Send him an autographed picture of Conrad.
I don't
know
if anyone would want
that.
Why don't
we have those just in
case?
You should make custom baseball cards for us and just put them in the back.
Yeah, I'm down.
608 says, game of thrones.
I've not heard anyone say anything bad about it, but I don't have whatever streaming service it's on.
That's Monica from Mount Horrib.
Monica, I think it's on HBO.
And here's what you do.
This is my advice to people who do want to watch stuff, but it's not on the service they have.
Streaming services do not require a one-year contract.
You can get HBO for one month for $15.99.
and probably blow through, what is it, five seasons of Game of Thrones?
It's seven.
Is it that many?
Yeah.
Actually, I think it's
eight.
So even like Monica, even if you end up getting HBO for two months, it costs you 32 bucks and you get eight seasons of a show, you're pretty sure you're going to like.
plus whatever else is on HBO.
That's the way to do it.
That's how I always mean to do it, but I do forget to cancel stuff and I end up paying 150 bucks for all of them.
But if you're smart about it, you can just get something for a month and there are no contracts.
So, and I'm with you.
Game of Thrones is something I did eventually watch and I did like it.
And I didn't think I would.
I don't like medieval stuff.
I don't give or go to one of those medieval places where they give you a seven course meal and you get guys.
call the waitresses winches, and it's just, it's like so stupid.
I have never gotten into that.
You know, there's a great scene in the cable guy where they go to one, it's hilarious, where they actually
fight
in the
middle of it.
I totally forgot about that.
Game of Thrones is, I liked it though, even though I don't like Middle East, or Middle, medieval time stuff.
Game of Thrones is good.
You know, it's definitely, I'd say you watch it.
couple seasons, then you have to take a little bit of a break a little bit just because it's, it's, it's really dark at some times.
It is.
I agree.
But good.
It's hard.
It's one of those shows that you, you watch and then it's like, oh, the next one's starting right now.
I'll just see what happens.
Then an hour later, well, just watch the beginning again and get roped in.
Lisa from Middleton, she's in the 608 says orange is the new black and Mad Men.
Yeah, Mad Men, I've got to go back to Mad Men.
I watched the first season.
I liked it and I don't know why I stopped watching it.
I watched the Oranges of the New Black and, you know, it kind of derails after a couple of seasons,
but the first two were great.
I haven't seen it.
I'll have to add that to my list as well.
That's Robyn Ruhn.
No, who's it?
Oh, it's Felicity Huffman.
Mrs. Soprano, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
John from Madison says, OMG, got you some Columbia, Peter.
He says, get you some Columbia, Peter.
He is amazing.
And Dexter is so addictive that it makes you wonder if it's okay to like it so much.
I don't get the Columbia thing though.
What is that?
Maybe that's part of Dexter.
I don't
know.
I don't remember that if it is.
Great text though, John.
And I'm there.
I just finished season one.
I'll probably start season two tonight as soon as I get home.
John also says, never watched Breaking Bad.
Oh wow.
Check it out.
John, if you like Dexter, I think you're gonna like Breaking Bad.
It's got just enough of the same kind of shock value.
but it's not quite as morbid.
It's just really well done.
He says, gonna get around to it eventually.
My old lady caves the remote in her robe pocket.
I leave it alone.
Don't wanna lose a hand.
We're learning more about John and Melissa nightly.
I don't wanna know what's going on in that house.
Sydney from Oregon says, people have really talked of Sesame Street, but I've never caught an episode.
Come on, Sydney.
Who's your
favorite character in Sesame Street?
He just passed away.
Well, he was one of them.
I posted this on Facebook the other day.
I had kind of a crush on Maria.
And I think, I don't know if the guy was her husband or not.
I can't remember it.
He played Luis and he just passed away.
I loved Mr. Hooper.
And as far as Muppets go, Burton Ernie.
My favorite was the garbage guy.
I forget what his
name is.
Oscar.
Oscar's great.
He's so gropey and
funny.
Grover was great, Elmo.
I used to want to, in fact, when we talked about that last night, making a setting of a TV show or movie.
a question like where would you feel the most comfortable?
I always thought I love Sesame Street.
I wanted to live on that street when I was a kid and kind of the same thing with Seinfeld.
I would love to live in the Seinfeld building next to Kramer at Seinfeld.
Yeah, I think it's great.
But that question, we'll do that next week.
Melissa from Willy Street in Madison, that's the 608.
Hi Pete, I totally get the Dexter thing.
Binged the entire show this year.
For me, it felt almost cathartic to watch a serial killer take out a bad guy after watching the nightly news with this crazy administration.
Well, don't go too far with that fantasy, Melissa.
You get in trouble.
But yeah, it's a good show.
Boy, I'm finding a lot of Dexter fans here tonight.
This is kind of cool.
John also says, kiss her robot boy.
Yeah.
I think that would probably be the consensus.
is most people would just say, just kiss your fellow actress.
It doesn't mean you're cheating.
Maybe you think she's a bad kisser.
Yeah.
Could be.
John says, go ahead, kiss her robotically.
He changed this right there.
And then, yeah, John, he's trying to specify what Columbia meant.
I don't know what it is though.
Column, no.
We have established that John and Melissa like to throw a few back I think So I don't know what is going on over there.
That's good.
Let's go to the social media responses Do we have time to get yeah?
Yeah, are you gonna see naked gun this weekend?
Oh, I'm definitely going to I think I am too.
I didn't know Pamela Anderson had been married five times That's crazy.
It's insane and she's but she's only made sex tapes with two of them I think
So she's lacking.
No, but talk about loving marriage when you get married and twice was to the same person this guy Rick Solomon who's a poker player They got married twice that always cracks me up because it's like you know what I think I can do better than you up turns out I can't will you marry me and they get married again, and then they get divorced again So that made me laugh, but Pamela Anderson is good.
Maybe I should step up You should to Pamela Anderson.
Yeah.
Oh, you got some competition Liam Neeson's dating her now
He is.
Honestly, they have fallen in love, apparently, on the side of Naked Gun.
I'm going to
keep
away from that.
I don't want to
die.
You don't want to mess with Liam Neeson.
But he is 73, so you got the youth factor.
All right, we're coming right back.
We're going to read more of your texts as they roll in here on the socials.
And then Terry Barr is here at 735.
So great to have you with me, folks.
Stick around.
Give us a call.
Drop us a text.
It's Peachwabba at Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
This is Night Light, I am Pete Schwabba, Conrad Krieger, working the board tonight.
Naked Gun is getting 90% on Rotten Tomatoes.
That is incredible for a comedy and I was really scared.
I thought, it's not gonna tank, I didn't think it was gonna tank Liam Neeson's career because he's got enough of a body work that a bomb isn't gonna hurt him.
I really thought it was gonna be bad.
You know, honestly, when I saw that trailer, I thought I was like, this is definitely getting like a 35% or
something
like that.
But 90% and that's critic score not
that's critic score a hundred and ninety four reviews Wow,
I'm surprised.
So to be certified fresh I think you need like 40 reviews for it to count 194 90% audience score 81% 9% less people in the audience like it than critics.
That's interesting You know, I hear that Damar Hamlin commercial to during the break
If you're Damar Hamlin, you remember he had the heart attack during the game and maybe it wasn't a heart attack, but Do you ever have a bad day after something like that?
Like he made a full recovery.
He's still in the NFL, right?
Yep, he still plays for the Bills and he was basically I think brought back.
Yeah from being he was like dead for two minutes.
Yeah, he was That's unbelievable
And I'm here complaining that two people are going the same speed in both lanes and blocking my way to WGPW.
Yeah, you know, it's we all have a cross to bear Conrad
All right sticking going back to our text our question again once again if you still want to get on the in on the fun was I Can't find it.
No, here it is.
What's a TV show you've wanted to watch but haven't yet the TV show that got away I say Dexter Khan says poker face Luke Bathers our civic media pal
Mr. Luke Mathers says succession, but I haven't gotten HBO.
I mean HBO Max.
I mean Max.
Oh crap, now it's HBO Max again.
Anyways, I don't have one of those accounts to watch it.
Same deal, Luke.
Get it for a month, 16 bucks.
You got eight seasons of that and everything else.
This week tonight, John Oliver, brilliant, brilliant show.
That is worth the price of Max every month.
What John Oliver does,
Going off in a tangent here, but is incredible like they'll pick something like nursing homes or big pharma or something He will go after it and make it funny and do 20 minutes on it and Luke would love that.
I know Luke would like that show look if you don't like Game of Thrones or I'm sorry succession And John Oliver last week tonight, I will pay the 16 bucks.
How does that sound pal?
Daniel Wheeler says I haven't watched a game of thrones.
I'm on the fence if I really want to though thoughts anyone Yeah, I don't know if you're still listening Daniel, but we just talked about that and I would recommend it because that's not really my genre either But I loved it.
It's just very well done, and I think you'll like it I Wasn't a zombie guy either, but I watched all of the walking dead Fear the walking dead the 28 days move.
I guess I'm a zombie guy.
I still haven't seen the walking dead
any of it dude watch the watch the first episode
It's so great.
I'm not a zombie guy either.
So that's you know, if you like it and you're not a zombie I might
I'm telling you a show to
binge
I do admit I've become a zombie guy because I apparently watch all these shows But I still wouldn't say it's a genre.
I can't wait for something to come out.
But when it's done, right?
It's really good in the walking dead.
I've watched just that pilot Three or four times and he wakes up and the world has gone to heck.
It's really cool Fallon
on social media says the bear.
Yeah.
I'm kind of with you there, Fallon.
I've got, I watched the first season, I just cannot get into it.
Yeah, I'm the same way.
And I
liked it.
I watched the first episode of season two and I just haven't got back to it yet.
That's exactly what I watched the first episode of season two.
Mike Schmidt, who's a frequent guest on the show, said season two was the best ever.
So I am gonna go back to it at some point, but I think Fallon means he hasn't watched it at all.
It is good.
There's no reason I haven't gone back to it, Fallon.
I think you'll like it.
Check it out.
J.B.
Thompson, guy behind the guy, behind the guy, says some TV series look cool.
The time commitment to get caught up is a huge time commitment.
Like Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, shows like Seinfeld are great because you can stop in, watch one, and enjoy without having to know where the character arcs are, etc.
Yeah, it's a time commitment, but, you know, you can watch it at your leisure.
You know, I will say I watched first three episodes of Seinfeld.
I still haven't got back to it yet.
You're talking like season one.
Yeah.
All right.
It found its groove, I would say.
I would watch season one and two.
Season one only has like four episodes.
Yeah.
So, and Jerry has talked about that in her interviews.
He said, that's the smallest order you can make for a TV show.
So they didn't have much faith in it.
Season two has some classic episodes, but I would say by season three, they just, it was home run after home run.
You gotta stick with it, trust me.
Barry McClure on social media says, Mad Men.
So I would say Mad Men, Dexter and Game of Thrones are our big ones tonight.
It's funny, it's like collective consciousness, you know?
So anyway, nobody's really weighing in, only one person has weighed in on the kiss.
I thought we had more.
So, are you gonna check out this show, the new MCU show, Eyes of Wakanda?
Yeah, I didn't even know that was out, and it's out on Disney Plus
right now.
It's out on Disney Plus right now.
I
don't
know how many times you're gonna ask me that, but yeah, it is.
If you were doing that on your own, that would have been brilliant.
And then what else was I gonna say?
Oh, yeah, we got that and yeah, sorry.
We're all caught up dude.
I think this is great Do we have time to play the aunt Edna clip?
Yes.
Yeah, let's play Oh cutting close kind of take us to the news.
Yeah in Now all right go for it and at a vacation Helpers getting cold Set your head
And, Edna, after all these years, you're looking so good.
Oh, hi, Edna.
Nice to see you again.
You remember Clark, don't you?
You were the ones that sent me the fruitcake for Christmas.
It made me so sick.
Oh, I'm sorry.
We thought you enjoyed fruit cake.
You enjoy throwing up every five minutes, Claude?
Clark.
I thought so.
Well, am I going to eat or am I going to starve to death?
Catherine, did you tell Clark and Ellen the good news?
Uh, no, I was just about to.
Catherine, what's the good news?
Time to check out original music with Bar Band Friday on Nightlight.
Now your host Pete Schwabba and special guest Terry Barr.
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to another edition of Bar Band Friday Night, one of our favorite
segments of the week here at Nightlight.
It is my pleasure to welcome our music aficionado who always brings us great tunes and great conversation.
She is one of the hosts of Maxing Radio on WMDX, which you can hear every Saturday night from six to nine p.m.
And she is a contributor to New Whiska Weekend and all things civic media.
Did I cover everything Terry?
Terry Bar folks.
Some
days
I wonder,
you know, if I don't make a list, I don't know if you're like this Pete, but if I don't have a list,
I seriously don't know what I'm doing.
You just, it's so weird.
You have to, you have to do that to be organized.
I'm not particularly an organized person, but I've become more so since I've done the show because I can't survive not being that way or I will forget something, right?
Absolutely.
And I put a calendar on my phone, so I get those notifications.
I still do a paper calendar, a paper list, and I'm still forgetting something almost every single day, and it drives me bananas.
I do all that that you just said, and I tie strings to my fingers, and I write notes on my hands.
I'm with you, sister.
Thank you, my dear.
How are you?
I am good.
I don't know what it is, but this week in particular, I'm happy it's Friday.
Yeah.
One of the bands that I'm going to introduce you to tonight, I am thrilled.
to have met them and talked with them last weekend.
But I think I realized hitting Friday, that's part of why I'm tired this week.
And I try not to be tired.
We had Atwood Fest, the big festival that shuts down some of the East Side streets in Madison last weekend.
But it was also close to 100 degrees.
So
it was hot.
But everybody still showed up and it was so much fun.
But I think that's why I'm
tired today.
That'll take it out of you.
A long music festival in the sun.
I mean, I was in Madison all last week and it was my intention to stay and grab some soundbites, but then the forecast looked like rain.
So I just went out to breakfast with a friend and then I'm like, well, it's sunny, but I was so tired from the week, I just didn't do it.
And I knew, I knew if I did decide to go, I can't just go for an hour because I'm either going to not find parking for an hour or there'll be a great band
or
something
was
going to keep me there all seven o'clock at night, you know.
And
this festival has that because there's three stages and everybody's kind of moving and grooving between the stages.
It is just so great.
I
want to do
something from there next year.
I would love
to broadcast or
find a way to do something from Atwood.
I've just heard
way too many great things.
It will help you.
It will help you make it happen.
Yeah, thank you.
You guys can be my guides because between you and Rocker, I know you've got everything covered there.
You're so
much a part of it.
I have to really give it up to my Maximum Ink radio co-host, Rocker.
He's the one that books these bands, puts the line up together.
And this is one of the best years ever.
And you can find video just about everywhere.
Just search for Atwood Fest on any social media.
You'll find videos.
You'll find lineups.
You'll find music.
It's so much fun.
That
is amazing.
But this band, I think I have a crush.
All right.
So what?
What is, okay, which band are we starting with?
Because I like them both, but I like one of them that has a song that's basically our slogan here every night.
So that's fun too.
Okay.
Yeah, but you pick.
Oh, I know what you're saying.
Okay.
Well, you tell me, which one do you want to start with?
Well, let's start with Baskin-Hill because their song is lighted up.
And it's a fantastic song.
I love the acoustic guitar, but tell us about Bascom Hill and then we'll play
the song.
You might need to borrow this song.
Yeah, maybe use it with your show when you can.
They are from Wisconsin.
They're from the Kenosha area.
OK.
And why I wanted to highlight them.
I don't know.
You know, I feel like sometimes these bands that have been around forever in Wisconsin, sometimes they don't get enough love.
They have.
Gather as a trio out of Kenosha since 2007 No kidding to I know two of the guys of the three two of the guys Prior to that have been writing songs together for years and years
That's cool.
Yeah, they've got roots why I also wanted to bring them up They are playing mile of music in
Apple
Fantastic.
My love music is a huge thing in Appleton.
Hundreds of bands now, dozens of venues and Bascom Hill had a show today, but then they have a show tomorrow that you can catch at rookies in Appleton.
It's right on the main drag College Avenue and they're playing at 7 30.
So they've got one of the main shows on a Saturday night to it.
Enjoy why not go?
Yeah, it's all free You walk around to all these venues and you just find whatever kind of music you love
and there's so much of it It's so great.
Um,
this is
uh, I love the way they describe this song
And maybe you guys can think about this while you're listening to it, but it's this song is a loud, proud celebration of late nights, neon lights, and living in the moment.
From the opening line to the last chord, light it up brings the kind of reckless joy you feel with cold beers, close friends, and a night you won't forget, even if it leaves a few scars.
That's so great.
This is great.
Should we start?
Should we play light it up?
Oh, let's do it.
Let's light it up.
I love that you read that before the song.
Yeah.
All right.
Give it a listen, folks.
This is Baskham Hill by way of Terry Barr.
to leave it all behind.
Set this night on fire.
We're living in a D dream.
Can't keep up with the reality.
I'm not done yet, I'm not done.
Nobody's going home tonight.
Somebody's gonna fall in love.
Somebody's gonna break up.
Somebody's gonna leave some scars.
We won't notice the way.
on his side.
They're fun.
That's a great song.
You should, first of all, yes, get together with them, have them rock that song for you, but then also have them on your show.
I would love that.
Next time we're, well, they're out of Kenosha, but yeah, if we'd known they were a mile of music, let's track them, Con, and see if we can line up the next time they're in the area.
They have kind of a hoody and the blowfish type of feel to them, it seems like.
I don't know.
And they do electric too.
This is a live acoustic special show, but between the three of them, they play every instrument you can think of.
Wow.
This song, I just thought was so special because it's a recent live recording of them.
And they're just so fresh.
Yeah, it's a great sound.
I love it.
That's fantastic.
All right.
So tell us about Terry, the other band you brought, Parker.
Barrow.
Yeah, this is the one I have a crush on.
The whole band.
Well, the female singer.
Little girl crush.
Oh, yeah.
She's incredible.
Her voice is so big.
And she's the nicest person.
They played at Woodfest last weekend.
And when you hear them and you're thinking, oh, I miss them at Woodfest.
Well, never fear.
Even though they are based in Birmingham, Alabama, and they do also call Nashville home, they tour constantly.
They just got back from the UK before coming to Madison.
And they've got a couple of Wisconsin shows.
Yeah.
And you can find all their information on their website.
So I would suggest that.
And what a great way to end.
Oh, I don't even want to say this to end the summer by seeing.
a show of theirs before summer's gone.
No kidding.
I think they have September 7th, I'm sorry, August 7th, I believe in Stevens Point.
And then I think it was the 9th in Heartland, Wisconsin.
And then in between their Terry, they go down to Geneva, Illinois or Bartlett, and then they come back and play more.
So they're obviously all over the place, hardworking band and their music.
The little bit of research I did, I like this.
It says music described as blues infused Southern rock and roll.
Does that sound right?
Would you agree with that?
It's perfect.
And here's a funny little fact that I learned while talking to them, Parker Barrow.
And you think, what kind of name is that for a band?
Yeah.
They stole the last names or borrowed, I guess, the last names of Bonnie and Clyde.
Oh, I was wondering about that.
Yeah.
Oh, that's cool.
Isn't that fun?
Yeah.
So they'll
be
in Stevens Point, August 7th, Heartland, Wisconsin, August 9th.
And then do they play around Madison?
I know they just read at Woodfast, but do they have any Madison dates coming up?
They have a Della Field show that I think ends their summer run.
Della Field is right outside of Milwaukee.
Okay.
So, and I think all of these are outdoor shows.
And honestly, after seeing them at Atwood Fest, that is the best way to see them.
Oh, that's
so great.
Okay, we're going to do a very quick break.
And then we're going to
come
back with Terry Barr, my co-host for Barbie on Friday night.
And Parker Barrow, we're going to hear their song, Make It, that's coming up after this very short break on Nightlight with Peach Wabba on the Civic Beat.
Radio
Network.
Welcome
back.
It's a bar band Friday night here at Nightlight.
I am Peach Waba joined by Terry Bartary.
Terry, do you recognize that song or that artist?
With that cat in the hurricane.
No,
that was Kalen Cole in her new single.
Totally, totally not acoustic though and produced and all ready to go.
She said
Isn't that great?
She said it's doing really well, too.
So that's exciting.
She deserves it.
That girl has worked so hard.
Yeah, she's great.
Terry
Barr is
here on Monday, folks.
Alan Kopischke will be here.
He is the producer of the DoorCanetic Arts Festival.
He's also an actor.
He'll be here in studio.
And I'll be joined by a bookstore owner in Appleton.
Kalen Bovink will be here over the stream.
That's Monday night on Nightlight.
We've got one more text to bang out here.
Then we will get back to Terry and Parker Barrow.
Bridget from the 818 says, I want to watch Shameless.
A few people whom I respect, their opinion have loved Shameless.
Seems very USA right now.
I don't know what to make of
that.
I have seen the show.
It is very funny.
Have you seen it, Terry?
I have watched the entire thing.
Really?
One of the barflies, Mike McGill, is a friend of mine from college.
Oh, nice.
It's
a
funny show.
It's very
gutsy, and yeah, it's great.
It feels very real right now.
Yeah.
I agree.
Thank you, Bridget.
Great text.
All right, so we were talking about Parker Barrow, named after Bonnie and Clyde, which is so cool.
Let's do the song, and then we'll come back and discuss before we let Terry go.
This is Make It from Parker Barrow.
I can see how they totally rocked out with Fest.
They must be great live.
It was 99 degrees and they came out full steam and did not stop.
I was impressed by all of it, especially knowing the temperature, but you couldn't tell that the weather bothered them at all.
Yeah, that's so cool.
They've been compared to the black crows.
I totally hear that.
Yeah.
Yes.
Great stuff.
Terry, thank you so much.
Oh, funny thing, Pete.
Do I have a minute to tell you this really quick?
Yeah, absolutely, sure.
So as we're walking up to Atwood Fest, their bus is there.
They do travel in a big bus, which is awesome.
You know, that's when you know you're getting to be a bigger band.
Almost
famous,
yeah.
Sitting in the driver's seat, Megan and Dylan, lead singer and drummer, they're married.
It's their dog sitting in the driver's seat.
The cutest thing I think I've ever seen and I like them then and I like
yeah, that's so cool Wow,
we'll have to
all right so
Parker Barrow, they're playing in Stevens Point on the 7th of August in Heartland, Wisconsin on the 9th.
If you want to hear Baskin-Hill, they're at Mile of Music tomorrow.
I think you said right, Terry.
7.30.
Correct.
At Rookie's.
Great stuff as always, my friend.
Have a great weekend and thank you so much,
Terry Barrow.
You too.
You too.
Everyone out there listening as well.
All right.
Thank you, Terry.
Thank you to Terry.
Thank you to Spencer Young and all your texts and calls.
So much fun here at Nightlight.
We will be back again on Monday.
Cannot get here fast enough, folks, with Alan Kepischke, actor and producer of a really cool festival in Dore County.
And Kailin Bovink will be here, too, a bookstore owner in Appleton.
It's going to be a blast on Monday, but hope you have a great weekend.
Stay safe out there, folks.
Party hard on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad.
I'm Pete Schwabba saying good night, Wisconsin.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, take me to your best friend's house.
I love you there tonight.
Two night lights.
I am Pete Schwabba.
Great to have you with me this Tuesday night back here on the home court after a wonderful week in Madison back at WGBW making sure Conrad does not get into trouble.
Tomorrow night on the show, who do we have Conrad?
I lost my, let's share for some reason.
Well, we have Matt Miller talk about
some
of those blockbusters that are going on right
now.
Milwaukee film critic Matt Miller.
We've got Kim Mothy from Appleton talking about Myla music.
Yep.
What else do we have?
I can't find my list here for some reason.
We've got the... Curator of Mustard
Museum.
I love this.
The Mustard Museum in Madison.
Curator Barry Levinson, no relation to the other Barry Levinson, who's a famous film director.
But Barry is great and he loves Mustard.
He's coming on to celebrate National Mustard Day.
When I was in Madison last week, I...
I had breakfast with my son and my niece at this place, and I saw this really cool building.
The National Mustard, I don't know if it's the National Mustard Museum or a more regional mustard museum, but they know they're mustard folks.
That's all you need to know.
So that's tomorrow night on Night Light.
Hopefully, you'll join me tomorrow as well.
Right now, let's get back to our guest, Mike Siegel, the very talented comedian and host of the TravelTales podcast and numerous cable shows.
He's had a stellar career and- Steller!
Now, he's in a hotel room.
Where are you again, Mike?
Juneau, Alaska.
Yes.
I'm in Juneau.
And it's so funny.
When you said, when you were talking about vacation, the movie, the mustard museum is something Clark Griswold would go out of his way to visit along with the second largest ball of twine, which is only three short hours away or six short hours or whatever it is.
I love when the, with the bartender in the place where they go and dodge city, ignores them.
And then Chevy Chase family says, Hey, underpants.
Oh, that's so great.
Great, the kid's deaf.
I said he's deaf now.
And
then he always says, oh,
what's the difference?
It was fun anyway.
Let's talk about vacation, Mike.
Today is the 42nd year, right?
Anniversary?
It dropped in 1983.
Yeah.
So where do you rank that, Mike, with some of the better comedies in the 80s, like the John...
Hughes comedies or Fletch or Caddyshack, Ferris Bueller.
Well, it's another thing that I remember watching the National Lampoon documentary and realized that a handful of these writers pretty much shaped my comedy outlook
on
everything.
I mean, everything that they did from Animal House into, you know, John Hughes came out of there.
Yeah.
You know, he wrote Vacation, which was based on a National Lampoon article.
that he wrote.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so that's up there, for sure.
And it hit me hard, too, because, you know, I was, I think in high school when that came out, but my family did that trip, you know, from Chicago to California to go to Disneyland.
And we stopped at everything.
I think we stopped at the Petrified Forest.
We did the London Bridge in Arizona.
I don't know if you ever saw that.
No.
It's in I think it's in Lake Havasu City.
Okay, and look that up.
Yeah That's a replica of the London Bridge or it's an actual Piece of the London Bridge.
I don't know how it worked, but it's yeah, some guy brought it out to Lake Havasu in the 70s and it's still there You can go see it but the petrified forest and all that I remember, you know, it was the old Route 66 yeah through St.
Louis and You know, Oklahoma City and Amarillo and all that
So yeah, I remember doing it and that was my first trip to the West Coast ever and that was it was pretty mind-blowing to see what I was watching on TV You know to those
of us from the
Midwest Pete, you know, like a desert is completely foreign mountains Mountains were a really big deal.
Yeah, and so to see those mountains and like wow I couldn't believe it.
You know, this looks like Charlie's Angels
It also, in a weird way, gave me an appreciation for the Midwest, especially when you fly and you see how, like, I love the desert now.
I didn't always.
And mountains and the ocean and all that, I flip for.
It's great.
But I also remember flying back to the Midwest and seeing how green it was and thinking
how
cool that was.
But you're right, Mike.
Vacation, Harold Ramis directed it, another heavyweight from the National Land Poon.
And we all took those trips, too.
it seems like out west.
And I remember as a kid going, this is terrible, because we camped.
We had a pop-up camper.
Oh,
yeah.
We weren't campers, but my mom and dad bought a camper after we moved to Wisconsin.
We took it out west.
And all I remember is sand everywhere.
But I look back on it finally.
We saw Colorado and the Grand Tetons and Old Faithful.
Those trips are so fun.
Why do you need my address?
We'd like to send a mailer.
Ryan
Doyle Murray is so great.
He comes out and he tells him how much the tents are.
It's like 45 bucks for three tents.
And I think Clark says that's a little steep.
And he says, oh, they're very nice tents.
And that price, that price includes scenery and wildlife fun.
Wildlife fun.
And they get to one of them and it's like, you know, the canvas is all collapsed and it's like water and there's a duck swimming in it.
Oh, right.
The pool.
Yeah.
The pool.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, I remember we had a we had an RV too first of all We had a motorhome and then we went from that to a camper But we never took we didn't take that all the way across but we we used to go down to Florida with it and Myrtle Beach, South Carolina from Chicago.
That's where we did a lot of the camping thing.
But yeah, I couldn't No desire like an RV has just like a certain smell to it and you're right once sand gets in it's in there, you know, it's never it's never coming out
totally.
But no, it was a great, it was a great trip.
And and AM Radio Pete, the entire time.
And I remember, so I pegged the year as either 7677, because I remember the song, you know, we go into a different market, your radio would pick up each top 40 station.
Because, you know, back then it was either top 40 country or Jesus.
That was the three options on the radio.
So, the top 40, I remember we were hearing Dancing Queen by Abba.
Oh, yeah.
Hotel California.
Hotel California, Dustin the Wind.
Stairway to
Heaven, maybe?
Nah, the top 40 now we skip, but those three I remembered distinctly we would hear every, like every hour it seemed on the hour.
And it's just ingrained in my memory.
We had my dad growing up.
He's a great dad.
We have a great relationship, but I never understood why he didn't like rock and roll music.
My dad was raised with Irish tenors, and he's a singer, and he loves classical music.
And we were driving through Provo, Utah.
I don't know how we made our way up to Utah, but I said, my mom was telling us about Provo, and my dad, this is an actual quote, he said, well, any town that plays classical music on an AM radio can't be all that bad.
And I'm just in the backseat shaking my head going,
you know.
This is gonna be a long ride.
Listen to some kiss or something.
Do you have a favorite character, Mike, from Vacation?
Well, Chevy has just great lines in that thing.
I mean, it's pretty amazing what he does in that thing.
Real tomato ketchup in.
Oh, and the girl, they're at the farmhouse and the girl is like stirring.
The Kool-Aid with her arm.
Audrey, can I help you with the Kool-Aid?
Just like, she's got her whole arm in the, please.
Just great lines, but I love it.
I can't do the lines because they're all foul, but the,
uh,
when he finally snaps in the rain and they're trying to bail and they're in Arizona and they just drop off
their
dead, his dead mother-in-law and his brother-in-law's house and they want to leave and they're like, we just want to go.
He's like, what?
You're going to bail out now?
Nobody's leaving the lines because they're all filthy,
right?
Yeah, I also like the when he's when he gets caught with Christie Brinkley in the pool and Beverly Angelo who's always my like favorite I love Beverly
Angelo as a
kid
and
she says Clark Do you like that girl?
We swimming naked with her.
Do you like that girl?
And he says that girl.
No, she's ugly She's
ugly
Hey, we
have a
Conrad said he pulled one of those scenes.
What scene do you have, Con?
I have both.
I have, well, one at least to Anne Edna, first meeting her
in
the movie, and Clark losing it.
Let's do, can you play Clark?
Yeah, yeah.
That's gotta be filthy.
Yes.
Let's do it.
Beeps are funny.
All right.
Here's the Clark losing it scene from vacation in honor of Mike
Siegel.
I don't want to be in the car anymore.
I want to go home.
I don't want to go to Wally World.
Clark, under the circumstances, I wouldn't mind if we just went home.
In retrospect, it seems like a pretty bad idea driving out has been one disaster after another.
Yeah, it's been a real drag, Dad.
Maybe we can try it some other time.
Wally World's overrated anyway.
What do you think?
I think you're all f***ing ahead.
We're 10 hours from the f***.
and you want to bail out.
Well, I'll tell you something.
This is no longer a vacation.
It's a quest.
It's a quest for fun.
I'm going to have fun, and you're going to have fun.
We're all going to have so much fun when we eat plastic surgery to remove our damn spiles.
You'll be whistling symphony doo-doo to out of your ass.
I got to be crazy.
I'm going to pilgrimage to see a moose.
Praise Marty Moose.
Holy
shit.
Dad, you want to ask for something?
Don't touch.
So great.
I want to say my favorite scene, and it's hard to pick one, but is I love when they go to pick up the family truckster and he's with Rusty and Eugene Levy is the car salesman.
And he goes, you
didn't order the metallic pee?
Metallic, metallic, no Antarctic blue.
He's just repeating.
I want my super, super sport wagon with the optional rally fun pack.
This
one
beats the hell out of the truckster, but I want to make you happy.
Have you seen- You're taking the tribe, you're taking the tribe across country.
The family truckster is the way to go.
This is the car you should be driving.
Mike Siegel is my guest and we're talking about vacation.
It dropped today 42 years ago.
I can't believe it's that old, but Mike, did you see the remake with Ed Helms and also what are your other favorite vacations if you have any?
I did not see that one with Ed Helms, but I did see the originals.
I think they did four.
Maybe five.
There's Vegas, European, Christmas.
And did they
do
one other one?
And you know my theory on comedy sequels, Pete.
There's never been a comedy sequel as funny as the first.
And
if you can name one...
You know, we've tried this on a driving game, you know to pass the time right come up with a comedy sequel That's funny or the first and you can't you can't you just can't and it's summer better summer good.
Yeah, most of them are disappointing.
So Two was bad.
European was not good other than the couple scenes that are funny.
It's only
driving
yeah around the roundabout he can't go left or yeah, and And then but Christmas
is a winner.
Christmas is fun.
Christmas vacation is a winner.
Still not as good as the original, I
don't think.
No, but good.
And the other one, it was just out of Vegas.
I think they're just milking it at that point, which, you know...
And
everything
they do is for money, but why did the first one have to be remade?
Like, why don't you take Ed Helms, who's hilarious, and...
call it something else and make it a vacation movie.
It's not like you can't do that, but you're, it's inevitably forever going to be compared to the first one and that you just can't do that.
Oh yeah, sure.
I mean, they can, you know, you can borrow plots.
There's always going to be road trip movies with families.
I mean, it doesn't have to be vacation.
They don't have to be the Griswolds.
They don't have to be, but you know, I mean, it's built in audience.
They're trying to, you know, less marketing on their part, I guess.
But yeah, it does kind of tank the original, but I hope people seek out the original first.
Absolutely.
Because it's so great.
I mean, you would never get away with some of the jokes, too, now, like, you know, dragging the carcass of the dog.
I mean,
when you look back on it, like, whoa, boy, Peta would be all over you.
That one in the scene in St.
Louis that Harold Ramis said he's ashamed of, and he wish he wouldn't have put that in just from a racial standpoint.
But Mike Segal's my guest.
We're going to do a very short break and come back and talk about his
His podcast, TravelTales, and I'm going to ask him where I should go.
That's coming up next.
It's Nightlight with Peach Waba on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Welcome back to Nightlight.
I'm Pete Schwabba.
Got a few more minutes here before we close out this Tuesday night.
My guest is Mike Siegel.
He is the host of the TravelTales podcast and has hosted many TV shows and is a touring national stand-up comedian.
Mike,
Let's talk about travel tales such a great I mean You were like kind of into the ground floor with travel
podcasts, right?
I've been doing it Yeah, since 2011 amazingly enough.
So yeah, I kind of got in in early but now to the like, you know, everybody has a podcast so It's nice that I did get to Garner a little bit of a loyal audience while you still could
I wouldn't know how to break through now with a different show.
And the thing about travel is it's also a very visual thing.
So a lot of people, you know, I would have done a YouTube channel by now or some kind of visual thing.
I don't know.
I kind of like the art of interviewing and talking to people and kind of long form interviews and things like that and just kind of getting to know somebody.
So,
And I think part of it's also after being on stage for so long and being on an actual TV and stuff, you know, it's kind of nice to not have a camera on me sometimes.
Sure.
It's nice
to.
You
started the podcast about traveling in 2011.
You didn't actually start traveling until 2016 and you somehow pulled
that
off.
But what?
I could tell you make it Pete.
That's right.
If people were going to give a listen, where would they find it?
In what episode, Mike, would you have them start with if one jumps
out at you?
Oh, boy.
There's so many hundreds.
It depends on kind of what they're into.
We've had a guy recently who climbed, made it to Everest, did the actual top of Everest.
We've had a girl who just moved to, you know, she was from the U.S.
and Texas.
Decided went to London once and decided she wanted to move there and made it happen.
And now she's she's got her own podcast helping people move to Abroad and I'm getting a lot more of that these days a lot of expats Because it just seems to be more more and more Americans are interested in leaving.
Yeah, or the or at the very least having a second passport or just even if it's not permanently you the the pandemic taught a lot of people that they could work remotely
And if you can work remotely, it's like, why not?
You know, there's digital nomad visas that a lot of countries have that you can go there.
All you have to do is prove you make a certain amount every month or and you could say for a year or whatever it's like, hey, maybe I'll go live in Thailand for a year or something.
You know, again, if you have kids, it's a hard thing.
But if you young person in their 20s, if you can make it happen, why not?
I mean, that wasn't an option for us back in the day.
Okay, so I have one more question for you.
And I talked about this a little bit at the beginning of the show.
I haven't been too many places.
I kind of missed my window there.
I was in my 20s,
I was
happy to be seeing America do and stand up.
And that was all I needed at that point in my life.
But what would you tell someone like me or one of my listeners who hasn't really gone anywhere exotic or to done much international traveling?
Where would you tell them to go if they could only go one place?
Well, I mean One of the things we always try to do is like make sure people know that it's it's not as expensive that they think it's going to be We're so used to traveling around America, you know people would ask me How do you spend three weeks in Asia?
I can't afford that.
I go people spend more at a weekend in Vegas Literally then I can spend I can spend two weeks in Asia For what people spend
Yeah, I mean, if you're talking five on a weekend, you could spend $500 a night on a hotel room in Vegas and you haven't even eaten or gambled or seen a show yet.
You're a drink.
Lost the kids college funds.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
So it doesn't have to be.
So if you have any kind of points, you know, there's a whole websites devoted to getting points and miles and utilizing those.
But if you've never been anywhere first, I think one thing to really open my eyes
My first trip was after college.
I'd never left the country before that.
And just go to Europe.
It's very easy to get around.
It's safe.
You'll see a bunch of different cultures in a small window of time.
And you've heard so much about it, your life, and you've seen it in movies and know all about it.
You never get a true feel until you're there.
So it's very easy to get around with the trains and now with the Euro where you're not changing money.
Every every country like we used to and It's just easy.
So I would go I would I would go to Europe first and then use that as a jumping point
It's a great point too.
And you can see there are a lot of countries close together like that.
It's not like
you're going
to New Zealand or yeah, that's a great answer
Yeah, I mean, you don't have to go halfway around the world.
I mean you just got to hop over the pond and
right,
you know And if you can only do one, you know, go to the UK for a little bit.
That's not intimidating.
There's not a real culture
Shock and there's no language problems.
So any of those are all good.
I just want to hear someone say
fresh and you drink Kovna We got a text here Mike from Ross and Madison whose favorite vacation line is you might have said this before he says I don't know why they call it hamburger helper helper Just fine by itself.
That's great Ross.
Thank you
Tom from New Berlin says, hilarious.
Tom says, thanks Pete.
Great show using AI to enhance your profile.
It's called a comb over.
Oh, that's good, Tom.
Thank you.
Where are you?
Oh, go ahead.
I forgot a great line when, when the cousin Eddie walks out and he sees the trucks for the first time, he's like, is that you?
Ooh, she's a beaut.
Love those green walls.
And another one you just made me think of when he hands Clark the white shoes.
And
he says,
I remember last time you remarked how much you like mine.
And Edmund starts yelling and Clark shuts the door in her face and just says, I love him, Eddie.
Mike, so fun.
Thank you for making time for the show tonight.
Even though you're in a hotel room, it's great to talk to you and great to talk vacation and travel tales and all that good stuff.
Hope you're well, buddy.
Thank you.
No, it's great to talk to you always.
It's fun.
Yeah.
We'll talk soon on what I like to call the telephone and we'll catch up without all these people.
What is that?
A what?
We just text
them.
We can swear then, right?
I can do the extra line.
You can swear as
much as you want and I hope you do.
I had a boy.
All right, Mike Siegel folks.
Thanks so much, Mike.
Welcome back.
We are talking with some really fun guests tonight.
Matt Miller, talk movies.
Kim Moth, he talked my love music and we're gonna have a great conversation about mustard coming up in just a few minutes folks at 735 This is nightlight with peach wabba.
Great to have you with me We've got our question of the night is what is a fruit or vegetable?
You hate it as a kid, but you like now I said avocado Conrad said broccoli Conrad's mom.
Oh I already read your mom's right.
She likes mushrooms.
Look, I mean, yeah, I used to hate mushrooms.
Yeah,
but now
Can't get enough of
them exactly
Dave on the stream said Conrad search the band that played Saturday at the Memorial Terrace That's what needs to be that's what needs to be Terry's bar band Okay, so I think we missed a text in there from Dave because I didn't know what he's referring to but that makes sense So we can now we can ask Terry about that look at Dave giving you stuff to do Conrad.
How do you feel about that?
I don't know Dave well, but I'm pretty sure you could take them
if he gets any more mouthy.
So, Dave and Chris versus
you.
That's what we do here on Nightlight.
We line up fights for ourselves.
It's a lot of fun.
I don't know Dave well, but I like your chances against Dave more than mine against Chris.
Yeah, I don't know.
Chris might be able to take both of us at once.
You don't know though.
What if Chris is just a big sweetie
and wants
nothing to do with
it?
I think he is.
Yeah, I think so too.
I'll keep telling myself that.
So let's go to the text line.
We heard from Ali.
Where are my texts here?
I gotta catch up here.
Okay.
Tyler from Wisconsin Rapids says, in the movie The Exorcist, Linda Blair made pea soup look good.
I don't like canned peas and never will.
I don't like canned peas either, but, and I know he's being sarcastic, but that is absolutely terrible.
Did you ever see The Exorcist?
I don't watch any any horror movies.
It's just it's so horrible.
Oh, you know what?
I did watch over the weekend though.
Mm-hmm.
The Paul Rudd and Jenna Ortega movie to kill a unicorn or whatever it's called.
Oh, yeah, how is
that?
It was so weird.
Yeah, it looks really
I didn't really I Really want to see it when I saw
that,
you know, it's like When they killed the unicorn Jenna touched the staff of the unicorn.
Okay,
and like she went into another dimension
What?
You got to watch it to see you know to see how crazy it is
Yeah, that doesn't really do it for me John Murray from the 608 he's in Madison says Pete dad made me sit until I ate them after an hour Oh, his was peas.
I think right I think of yeah, John.
Yeah, okay dad made me sit until I ate them after an hour me being stubborn He shoveled me a bite and I immediately vomited on his arm and laugh
He pulled an exorcist, John did.
That's terrible, John.
He says, can eat them now if I have to?
I assume without vomiting.
He says, isn't often.
Well, you're an adult now, John.
You don't have to do anything you don't want to do, especially when it comes to the edibles, edible foods, that is.
Conrad's dad checking in from Florida says, for the record, I love all kinds of soups.
He's totally throwing you under the bus, my friend.
He says, as a kid, I didn't like yams or sweet potatoes, but now love.
Yeah, I'm with you on that one too, Steve.
They are healthier than potatoes.
They are healthier and they taste good too.
I was scared of sweet potatoes as a kid.
You know, your dad and I probably need to pal around because we agree quite a bit on texts.
Yeah, yeah.
And I think it's that orange.
that kind of scared me about it.
I like sweet potatoes too now though.
But I like oranges, so I don't understand that.
But John says he was 10 when he vomited on his dad's arm.
So that's good.
Thank you, John, for those visuals and for being part of the show.
Jim from Brookfield says, hi, Pete and Conrad.
Never liked canned peas as a kid.
However, I liked cooked or frozen peas.
I like cooked or frozen peas now.
My wife also makes a pea mash.
That's very good.
That sounds...
Really unappetizing, I have to say.
I don't know if I'd like peas if they were mashed up.
I like them now, especially with mashed potatoes on Thanksgiving.
If they were mashed up, I don't know if I could do that.
Paul from Bayview, he's in the 414 says, radishes, hated as a kid, now slices on a salad, perfect.
Yeah, I'm with you, Paul.
I like radishes.
And those are something I learned to like as well.
AJ from the 608 says, happy Wednesday, Pete and Conrad.
I honestly still dislike all fruits and vegetables today that I did as a kid.
No evolution there for AJ.
She says, including bananas, green grapes, and eggplant.
I'll try them every now and again, and they're still nasty.
Wow, bananas.
You know, have you ever tried a deep fried eggplant?
I don't think so, and I'm not a huge fan of eggplant, and
we've talked about that.
It's dynamite.
It's dynamite.
Yeah, I'd be up for that.
A little crispy, something would help.
I don't like the consistency of it.
But great text.
Dave is not taking the bait for the fight.
Conor and Dave, we're gonna fight.
Dave has called it off more or less as he's a lover, not a fighter.
Now we can just talk over a bowl of soup.
Well, he can.
Let's
hear his cheese broccoli.
All right,
I think Dave has a great message there tonight.
Love, don't fight.
So I wanna talk, I'm excited to see The Naked Gun.
I might have to go see that.
I still haven't seen Friendship, speaking of comedies, the Paul Rudd film Friendship.
And I do wanna see The Naked Gun.
But I will say, and I talked about this with Lisa Hale today.
Check out New Wisco Weekend, folks.
If you haven't, it's on this weekend.
You have two opportunities to catch this great news magazine show that focuses here on Northeast Wisconsin.
Lisa does a great job.
I sent her, or she said, she saw something in my beats.
I think I did a pizza pick for Dexter, and she hit me back right away with a message.
She's like, please have me out to talk about Dexter.
I love Dexter.
I've watched the entire show multiple times.
Lisa might have some shallow graves in her backyard.
She might.
She's a blast though.
But check out Newisco weekend.
My pick this weekend will be Jaws because it will be re-released.
And the theme is summertime.
So I went with Jaws.
What did you, you got something?
I don't got something this week.
No?
What happened, man?
Just vacation stuff, you know,
catching up with you.
Okay.
All right.
When we come back, folks, we are, we've already talked music.
We've already talked movies.
It's time for Mustard.
That's a great slogan for the national
muster.
I'm
gonna run that by Barry when he joins us here.
After the news, that's coming up next.
It's Pete Schwab and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio
Network.
I already forgot my great mustard quote.
Oh my God.
All right, welcome back to Nightlight, folks, falling apart here.
After what's been an amazing show, I am Pete Schwab.
It is so great to have you with me on this Wednesday talking about all the things in life that we love.
We've covered movies, we've covered music.
We are about to jump into the third natural progression from both of those subjects, mustard.
The National Mustard Museum is here in Wisconsin, if you didn't know that, in the town of Middleton, and they have the largest collection of mustards in the world.
Joining me now to discuss this delicious condiment is the curator of all things Mustard Museum, Barry Levinson.
Hey, Barry.
Hey, Pete.
How are
you?
Good.
Just great.
This is so, I love finding guests like you because you have such a specialized interest and career.
It's just, and your museum is so cool.
I just kind of stumbled in there after having breakfast in Middleton last Saturday.
It's such a great place.
Let's start, how did you end up in the mustard game?
How do you
get to be
a museum curator, this really cool gig?
Okay, I used to be a lawyer, so don't hold that against me.
And in 1986, my beloved Red Sox lost the World Series to the Mets.
And I was I was just devastated.
So I was so depressed.
I couldn't sleep.
So I went to an all night supermarket just to cry away my tears.
Yeah.
And when I went down the condiment aisle, I heard this voice coming from the mustards.
If you collect us, they will come.
They have.
Oh, that's fantastic.
And first of all, my condolences, because I think everybody in 1986, I remember exactly where I was.
That was the
ball
that went through Bill Buckner's legs,
right?
Yeah.
That was game six, and then they lost game seven.
Exactly.
And I was at a bar called Hamilton's in Chicago.
And I remember because Bill Buckner jumped all over my cubs when a ball went through Leon Durham's legs in the 1984 playoffs, costing
him a
game.
And that's who replaced Bill Buckner.
So I thought it was poetic justice, albeit very sad poetic justice, because you never wish that on anybody, but no, my retroactive condolences.
So
all right.
So
are you from Boston, Barry?
I'm from Worcester.
Oh, yeah.
OK.
Very
nice.
So that's just 40 miles west of Boston.
Boston's a great comedy town.
I'm excited to, I'm even more excited to meet you now.
All right, so you're kind of kidding, but is there some truth to the Mustards talking to you?
Oh yeah, there's absolute truth to that because that's the night.
It was October 28th, 1986 that I started collecting Mustards.
No
kidding.
I did.
I did.
Now, I didn't quit right away, but I got another sign six months later.
I was arguing a case at the US Supreme Court, and I did it with a jar of mustard in my pocket because I had found a jar on a discarded room service tray.
You know, I didn't have time to look it up to research the issue.
So I think I did what every good lawyer would do.
I took it.
I just took it.
I have so many lawyers in my family, and I guarantee you they're going to hear this interview.
I love this.
All right, so that's kind of a cool thing, that maybe something Atticus Finch never could have said that he argued with a mustard in his pocket.
But even before you had this epiphany, I assume you were a fan of mustard as a condiment.
Yeah, I did.
I loved mustard in cream sauces, obviously on hot dogs and bratwurst.
Because mustard goes well with just about everything.
Agreed.
And coming from, the first part of my childhood was spent in Chicago where you do not even talk about putting ketchup on a hot dog.
It's all mustard.
No.
And, you know, mustard is locale.
If you eat it in its purest form, I don't think it has any calories.
It's kind
of
healthy, right?
That's true.
Yeah, it is very healthy.
So muster is definitely a good alternative to the K word.
And also, did you know that according to the National Condiment Research Council, ketchup, the annual report that came out about two weeks ago, ketchup is now the leading cause of childhood stupidity in America.
Conrad, you need to do some research, please.
Take a memo.
Get the director of the National Ketchup Museum on our list.
We have to have him on the show.
So, all right, well, that's great stuff.
And I, you know what?
Listen, a lot of ketchup has high fructose corn syrup.
You might be right about that, for all I know.
But how do you go from Worcester to finding your spot in Middleton?
Madison is such a great town, a great area.
Did you end up there just to take that job?
No, I went to law school here in Wisconsin.
Okay, so in fact Even though I no longer practice law I teach food law at the University of Wisconsin law school.
Oh fantastic
It's
fun.
It's
just fun.
I bet it is my guest is Barry Levinson He is the curator of the National Mustard Museum right here in Middleton, Wisconsin And he joint is joining us over the stream here on nightlight tonight
All right, I have to ask you, during the break, we were pretty excited to have you on because we haven't talked about really condiments in general on the show since I've been doing this for a year and a half.
Conrad said he was in Door County recently and had a cherry honey mustard.
And I
almost just put up a sign here and went to a replay to go taste that.
It sounded so good.
What is your favorite kind of mustard, Barry?
Well, I love Dijon Mustards good strong Dijon Mustards, but I like Brown Mustards, you know, I Like just about all Mustards, you know, there are 18 categories of mustard if the worldwide mustard competition And I love them all
Do you eat
them
daily?
Do you have mustard on just about everything or is it might just
get crazy?
No, okay.
I do I do.
Yeah every day
And we've got National Mustard Day coming up on Saturday.
I know August 2nd, that's gonna be a lot.
What do you guys do at the National Mustard Museum for National Mustard Day?
Well, we've got mustard ice cream.
Oh my gosh.
Oh yeah.
And it sold out the last three years.
So the same flavor is coming back and it's a raspberry honey mustard with little chips of chocolate in it.
That
actually
sounds pretty good, I have to say.
It is really good.
Also, we've got Gorman Thomas.
Do you remember Gorman?
Sure.
Storm and Gorman.
Storm and Gorman.
And he's going to be here because he makes a sauce.
He won a silver medal at the World Wide Mustard Competition with his sauce.
So he's going to be here.
We've got mustard ice cream, of course.
We've got usingers, hot dogs from Milwaukee.
and also brought worse.
We've got live music all day, and we've got mustard games for kids of all ages.
You're trying to hook them young, aren't you, Barry?
Yeah, we are trying to hook them.
All right, on a day that's not National Mustard Day,
What can people expect?
How much time do they need to go to the Mustard Museum?
I'm sure that's an easy, you know, they can spend five minutes or two hours, but what's that experience like?
And what, you as curator, what are you hoping they walk away with?
Just a bigger level of mustard, tons of products.
What's that visit like?
Well, in the gift shop, which is separate from the nonprofit museum, but you can taste hundreds of mustards.
probably about 80 different mustards at a given time.
And also you're going to see the world's largest collection of mustards.
We have over 7,000 different mustards from all around the world.
That's incredible.
Have you ever been tempted to make your own or have
you?
Oh yeah, I've done it.
I've done it.
Is it
a hard process?
No.
No, it's not.
It's really not a hard process, although the skill of the mustard maker is really crucial.
So, I mean, there can be just ordinary mustards, but a really good mustard is really a thing to behold.
That's so interesting.
It immediately made me think of like a sommelier or just someone who's into wine.
Like, can someone like you
who's an aficionado about mustard, go back to just basic yellow mustard, or do you have to have more nuanced mustards for your palate or someone of your sophisticated knowledge of mustard?
Well, when I go to the ballpark, and I often do because I'm still a fan of baseball, but the first thing I have to do is get a hot dog with the yellow mustard, hold it up to the sky,
I just look at it and it just brings me home.
That's so great.
You know, Yellow Mustard is not something I look down on.
In fact, French is a supporter of the nonprofit Mustard Museum.
No kidding.
Well, that's pretty cool.
And by the way, just to go on record here, your Red Sox.
And my Cubs eventually redeemed themselves in the big game since that horrible 86.
In fact, I think the Red Sox have won two or three, right, since then?
Yeah, I think they've won three.
And I'm also have to report to you that the Red Sox beat the Twins today 13 to one.
Well,
As long as we're on the topic of baseball, you mentioned Gorman-Thomas.
There's a great documentary called Just A Bit Outside, the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers.
I don't know if you've seen it, but they were such
a fun thing.
Yes, I have.
Yeah, we've
had the
filmmakers on quite a bit.
It's such a great documentary.
So all right, I'm glad you saw that.
Talk a little bit about your award winners that you have.
And what flavors are they?
Well, we've got honey mustard, sweet hot mustard, yellow mustard, we've got fruit mustard, herb mustard, exotic mustard, like we could have Dijon mustard flavored with truffles, for example, which is quite elegant.
And we've been holding the worldwide mustard competition every year since 1995.
And there are now 18 categories of mustard.
And the judges, which are made up of food writers, chefs and mustard aficionados like me, although I don't judge them because I know too many of them just by tasting.
So, you know, that's a curse for me.
But, you know, this year's chef or grand prize winner was made in Finland.
Last year it was made in Argentina.
So mustard is really universal.
It's making me want mustard right now.
This whole talk is just,
Exceptional thank you so much for your time Barry.
I have to ask you I ask a lot of the guests we have on the show We've got a minute or so left sure.
What do you watch on TV?
Are you binge watching anything you could recommend?
My binge watching you know, I I tune in occasionally to MSNBC Which is kind of my favorite station
sure
and so
I'm trying to think if I binge watch anything.
I don't really because I'm kind of preoccupied with mustard, which is terrible.
I know
that.
Oh, it's fantastic.
You got to make a documentary.
Thank you so much for your time tonight, Barry.
We did.
I heard from one of my coworkers, John Scott, this mustard guy, great guest.
And I totally agree with him.
Thank you so much for your time and have a great National Mustard Day.
Okay, and Astala Mustard.