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Movies, Music, and Mustard Madness (Hour 2)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Wed Jul 30, 2025
Hey, it's Pete Schwabba.
Welcome back to Nightlight.
We are back for Act II.
We had a great discussion, Hour 1, about movies with Matt Miller.
The theme of tonight's show, folks, is movies, music.
and mustard.
I don't think this has ever been done before in the history of radio where someone has chosen to speak about such a variety of topics.
But we're doing it here tonight on Nightlight where we make radio history bi-annually.
Great to have you with me on this Wednesday night.
We talked about in the first hour how Conrad does not like soup unless it's broccoli cheese, which I find to be the most disgusting soup.
So we're on the opposite ends of the spectrum there.
And we will have a super related question tomorrow, folks.
You are welcome to suggest one if you like, but this has to be addressed.
Nobody does not like soup, blanket statement, just kind of a blanket rejection of soup overall.
But our question of the night is, what is a vegetable that you hated as a kid or fruit that you like now?
I said avocado.
Conrad said broccoli.
A lot of people have said broccoli.
We'll play catch up on your texts in just a few minutes after we speak with our next guest, Kim, who is going to talk a mile of music.
We did the movie part.
Now we're going to do the music part.
And then we do the mustard part with Barry Levinson from the National Mustard Museum in Middleton, Wisconsin, as National Mustard Day is just around the corner.
Only two more shopping days, Conrad, till National Mustard
Sharknado.
It's better than Jaws.
It's a fine piece of cinematic art, but it's not Jaws.
All right, let's keep this train moving here.
It is my pleasure to welcome our next guest.
She is the social media coordinator for the Mile of Music Festival in Appleton.
She's a very busy person, but she's taking a few minutes out of her busy schedule here to talk to us at Nightlight.
Please join me in welcoming Kim Mothy.
Hi, Kim.
Hey, thanks for having me.
You did.
Yes.
I appreciate you asking.
All right.
just got married about a year ago, and my maiden name was Willems, and so I'd always get Williams.
And then when I got married, my husband was like, oh, it's still going to happen.
And it does happen
your name,
a certain
You know, I was thinking about that as you said that I've always actually enjoyed vegetables.
I feel like I was kind of a weird kid that way, but I definitely enjoy like broccoli more now than I did as a kid.
That's kind of like our consensus.
to- I love soup.
Yeah,
shaming Conrad tonight
I'm a huge soup fan.
Okay.
And if any of my friends are watching, they will love that you asked me that question.
just, I don't know.
I always, I like soup any time of year.
Okay.
In the winter, in the summer.
I don't know.
They kind of make fun of me for it.
I'm with
mind
Yeah, so my background with My Love Music, I went to school for public relations and advertising.
My dad, Dave Willems, is the co-founder of My Love Music, so it's kind of like that.
a car ride home from college situation and he's like, hey, I think we're going to be starting this music festival.
Would you be interested?
I had a serving job in the summer at the time up in Appleton and I was like, yeah, you know.
I could help with that.
And now I'm here.
And it's kind of funny because I've always, my dad has had his marketing firm pretty much my whole life.
And I never wanted to go into marketing.
My mom also worked in PR.
So I pretty much actively avoided the inevitable.
And then, you know, went to college, figured out that it was something that I enjoyed doing.
And now I'm here.
So.
So
Yeah.
So we're starting tomorrow, July 31st through August 3rd.
So it's a four day, all original music festival that takes place in downtown Appleton.
We take place, or we have events in the coffee shops, bars, restaurants.
parks, probably a bunch of other areas I'm forgetting.
But really, really great.
We have 35 venues.
We also have a music education team.
And our big focus is on original music.
So none of us are against cover bands, but just every event has their own thing, unique thing.
And our thing is that we focus on original music.
And I think the artists really appreciate that.
We have 200 artists coming this year, which is really exciting.
If you want more information on who is playing, go to, I think it's just mileofmusic.com, right, Kim?
Yep.
Yeah.
And there's an artist sheet.
And you're right.
Somehow you guys
fit 200 bands on this.
It's like almost hard to read, but it's so impressive that there are this many bands just right down the street here in Appleton.
What are your favorite venues?
If people haven't, let's do this.
If people haven't been there before, where should they start?
Cause it's kind of overwhelming.
Yeah.
And I think, you know, that's something that I definitely empathize with.
Obviously, I know a lot about the festival, but I would probably be overwhelmed by all the information too.
We do have an app as well, which is a great tool for mapping out your schedule.
seeing any schedule changes, things like that.
The app is just great to have during the festival.
So I would recommend we have a couple of areas where there are multiple venues in that one particular area.
So like Lawrence University, for example, they have three venues right on campus.
So if you're not interested in like, you know, walking a lot, walking up and down the street, trying to
beat the walking crowds.
That's a great spot where you could get an entire festival experience just in those three venues.
And that's also, there's the music education piece on top of that.
That's also primarily on the Lawrence campus as well.
Another example of that would be the Hilton Hotel right downtown.
They actually have five venues there this year.
So you get the full band, you get the full band outside, which I think will be very popular this weekend.
And then
We also have three listening room locations in that hotel as well.
That's a great question about 45% of our lineup this year is Wisconsin based artists Probably a little closer to 50 if you add in artists who used to live here and now move to Nashville or LA or where have you but So we're very proud of that because we do have a lot of great homegrown talent here in Wisconsin.
Yeah, but we also have artists that come from
I think it's 25 different states this year, as well as we have one from Australia, one from the UK, and one from Canada as well.
It's definitely a mix.
I think in the...
In the past, you know, we definitely branded ourselves more as Americana, but we're kind of branching out from that a little bit.
Americana is a huge umbrella too, so there's a lot of genres that fall under that.
We do ask the artists to define their own genre, so we get some kind of funky submissions in that regard.
But, you know, we have artists that are country, we have folk, we have rock, we have...
kind of more punk band this year.
So definitely a variety.
If you go on our app too, you can look at all of the genres that were submitted as well.
late to
know
can't come in then if he doesn't like soup.
No
Are
I am not.
That's actually a question I get a lot.
I did the whole like piano lessons, band, orchestra, like all of that.
But no, my side of things is more the community aspect and of course the PR side too.
Yeah, I'm glad you asked.
So it's an entirely free festival.
We started saying it's free to attend, but it's not free to produce.
So our nonprofit Appleton Community Music will be out asking for donations during the weekend.
They are looking to raise $100,000 at the festival, which is a high goal, but we're hopeful that people will see the value in what we're doing and support.
Appleton Community Music focuses on fundraising to bring the artists here, which is obviously a huge piece of our festival.
We need artists in order to have a festival.
And then we also have Willems Marketing and Events, which is the company that runs the festival.
We also fundraise for
production and a lot of the other things that go into putting on a festival logistics with the city, things like that.
So we have corporate sponsors, individual sponsors and donors that help put this thing on and we're hoping to keep it free and accessible to the community as long as we can.
your time.
Tell Abby
Thank you so much and thanks for having me.
Have a great night, Kim.
You too.
Okay, that's Kim Mothy.
Check out Myle of Music.
This weekend, it starts tomorrow and goes through August 3rd, and it's right here in northeast Wisconsin, folks.
Let's see what we're doing here, Conrad.
We're covering the entire state.
We are on state wire.
We had Matt Miller, Rep in Milwaukee,
talking movies.
We have Kim repping Northeast Wisconsin and Appleton talking music and now we are about to welcome, well in a few minutes anyway, our friend, our new friend Barry Levinson, the curator for the National Mustard Museum in Middleton, Wisconsin.
I bet you didn't know that's where the National Mustard Museum
Matt Miller, talk movies.
Kim Moth, he talked Myle of Music, and we're gonna have a great conversation about mustard coming up in just a few minutes, folks, at 7.35.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwab, great to have you with me.
We've got our question of the night, is what is a fruit or vegetable you hated as a kid, but you like?
No, I said avocado.
Conrad said broccoli.
Conrad's mom.
Oh, I already read your mom's, right?
She likes mushrooms.
get
Dave on the stream said, Conrad, search the band that played Saturday at the Memorial Terrace.
That's what needs to be Terry's bar band.
Okay, so I think we missed a text in there from Dave, because I didn't know what he was referring to, but that makes sense.
So we can ask Terry about that.
Look at Dave giving you stuff to do Conrad.
How do you feel about that?
I don't know Dave well, but I'm pretty sure you could take him.
If he gets any more mouthy.
So
to do with it?
I think he is.
Yeah, I think so too.
I'll keep telling myself that.
We heard from Ali.
Where are my texts here?
I got to catch up here.
Okay.
Tyler from Wisconsin Rapids says, in the movie The Exorcist, Linda Blair made pea soup look good.
I don't like canned peas and never will.
I don't like canned peas either, but
And I know he's being sarcastic, but that is absolutely terrible.
Did you ever see the Exorcist?
and
John Murray from the 608, he's in Madison says, Pete, dad made me sit until I ate them after an hour.
Oh, his was peas, I think, right?
I think of John.
Yeah, okay.
Dad made me sit until I ate them.
After an hour, me being stubborn, he shoveled me a bite and I immediately vomited on his arm and lap.
He pulled an exorcist, John did.
That's terrible, John.
He says, can eat them now if I have to?
I assume without vomiting.
He says, isn't often.
Well, you're an adult now, John.
You don't have to do anything you don't want to do, especially when it comes to the edibles, edible foods, that is.
Conrad's dad checking in from Florida says, for the record, I love all kinds of soups.
He's totally throwing you under the bus, my friend.
He says, as a kid, I didn't like yams or sweet potatoes, but now love.
Yeah, I'm with you on that one too, Steve.
They are healthier than potatoes.
They are healthier and they taste good too.
I was scared of sweet potatoes as a kid.
You know, your dad and I probably need to pal around because we agree quite a bit on texts.
But John says he was 10 when he vomited on his dad's arm.
So that's good.
Thank you, John, for those visuals and for being part of the show.
Jim from Brookfield says, hi, Pete and Conrad.
Never liked canned peas as a kid.
However, I liked cooked or frozen peas.
I like cooked or frozen peas now.
My wife also makes a pea mash.
That's very good.
That sounds...
Really unappetizing, I have to say.
I don't know if I'd like peas if they were mashed up.
I like them now, especially with mashed potatoes on Thanksgiving.
If they were mashed up, I don't know if I could do that.
Paul from Bayview, he's in the 414 says, radishes, hated as a kid, now slices on a salad, perfect.
Yeah, I'm with you, Paul.
I like radishes.
And those are something I learned to like as well.
AJ from the 608 says, happy Wednesday, Pete and Conrad.
I honestly still dislike all fruits and vegetables today that I did as a kid.
No evolution there for AJ.
She says, including bananas, green grapes, and eggplant.
I'll try them every now and again, and they're still nasty.
Wow, bananas.
Let's hear his cheese broccoli.
All right, I think Dave has a great message there tonight.
Love, don't fight.
So I wanna talk, I'm excited to see The Naked Gun.
I might have to go see that.
I still haven't seen Friendship, speaking of comedies, the Paul Rudd film Friendship.
And I do wanna see The Naked Gun.
But I will say, and I talked about this with Lisa Hale today.
Check out New Wisco Weekend, folks.
If you haven't, it's on this weekend.
You have two opportunities to catch this great news magazine show that focuses here on Northeast Wisconsin.
Lisa does a great job.
I sent her, or she said, she saw something in my beats.
I think I did a Pete's pick for Dexter, and she hit me back right away with a message.
She's like, please have me out to talk about Dexter.
I love Dexter.
I've watched the entire show multiple times.
Lisa might have some shallow graves in her backyard.
She might.
She's a blast though.
But check out Newisco weekend.
My pick this weekend will be Jaws because it will be re-released.
And the theme is summertime.
So I went with Jaws.
What did you, you got something on?
I don't got
Okay.
All right.
When we come back, folks, we are talk, we've already talked music.
We've already talked movies.
It's time for Mustard.
That's a great slogan for the national muster.
It's time for mustard.
I'm gonna run that by Barry when he joins us here.
After the news, that's coming up next.
It's Pete Schwab and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio
Network.
I can't find it.
Is it, why not mustard?
All right, welcome back to Nightlight folks falling apart here.
After what's been an amazing show, I am Pete Schwabba.
It is so great to have you with me on this Wednesday talking about all the things in life that we love.
We've covered movies, we've covered music.
We are about to jump into the third natural progression from
both of those subjects mustered.
The National Mustard Museum is here in Wisconsin, if you didn't know that, in the town of Middleton, and they have the largest collection of mustards in the world.
Joining me now to discuss this delicious condiment is the curator of all things Mustard Museum, Barry Levinson.
Hey, Barry.
Hey, Pete.
How are you?
Hey, Pete.
Good.
great.
It's just, and your museum is so cool.
I just kind of stumbled in there after having breakfast in Middleton last Saturday.
It's such a great place.
Let's start.
How did you end up in the mustard game?
How do you
get to
Okay, I used to be a lawyer, so don't hold that against me.
And in 1986, my beloved Red Sox lost the World Series to the Mets.
and I was I was just devastated so I I was so depressed I couldn't sleep so I went to an all-night supermarket just to cry away my tears
yeah
and when I went down the condiment aisle I heard this voice coming from the mustards if you collect us they will come I did they have
the ball
right?
Yeah.
That was game six, and then they lost game seven.
him a
all right.
So
I'm from
nice.
So that's just 40 miles west of Boston.
Oh yeah, there's absolute truth to that because that's the night.
It was October 28th, 1986, that I started collecting Mustards.
No
kidding.
I did.
I did.
Now, I didn't quit right away, but I got another sign six months later.
I was arguing a case at the US Supreme Court, and I did it with a jar of mustard in my pocket because I had found a jar on a discarded room service tray.
You know, I didn't have time to look it up to research the issue.
So I think I did what every good lawyer would do.
I took it.
I just took it.
I love this.
All right, so that's kind of a cool thing, that maybe something Atticus Finch never could have said that he argued with a mustard in his pocket.
But even before you had this epiphany, I assume you were a fan of mustard as a condiment.
Yeah, I did I loved mustard in cream sauces Obviously on hot dogs and bratwurst Yeah, that because mustard goes well with just about everything
No,
of
Yeah, it is very healthy.
So muster is definitely a good alternative to the K word.
Right.
So and also, did you know that according to the National Condiment Research Council, ketchup, the annual report that came out about two weeks ago, ketchup is now the leading cause of childhood stupidity in America.
Take a memo.
Get the director of the National Ketchup Museum on our list.
We have to have him on the show.
So, all right, well, that's great stuff.
And I, you know what?
Listen, a lot of ketchup has high fructose corn syrup.
You might be right about that, for all I know.
But how do you go from Worcester to finding your spot in Middleton?
Madison is such a great town, a great area.
Did you end up there just to take that job?
No, I went to law school here in Wisconsin.
Okay, so in fact Even though I no longer practice law I teach food law at the University of Wisconsin law school.
It's fun.
It's just fun.
I bet it is my guest is Barry Levinson He is the curator of the National Mustard Museum right here in Middleton, Wisconsin And he joined is joining us over the stream here on nightlight tonight
All right, I have to ask you, during the break, we were pretty excited to have you on because we haven't talked about really condiments in general on the show since I've been doing this for a year and a half.
Conrad said he was in Door County recently and had a cherry honey mustard.
And I almost just put up a sign here and went to a replay to go taste that.
It sounded so good.
What is your favorite kind of mustard, Barry?
Well, I love Dijon Mustards good strong Dijon Mustards, but I like Brown Mustards, you know, I Like just about all Mustards, you know, there are 18 categories of mustard at the worldwide mustard competition And I love them all
you eat them
go away?
No, okay.
I do I do.
Yeah every day
And we've got National Mustard Day coming up on Saturday.
Well, we've got mustard ice cream.
gosh.
Oh, yeah.
And it sold out the last three years.
So the same flavor is coming back and it's a raspberry honey mustard with little chips of chocolate in it.
actually
It is really good.
Also, we've got Gorman Thomas.
Do you remember Gorman?
Storm and Gorman.
And he's going to be here because he makes a sauce.
He won a silver medal at the World Wide Mustard Competition with his sauce.
So he's going to be here.
We've got mustard ice cream, of course.
We've got usingers, hot dogs from Milwaukee.
and also brought worse.
We've got live music all day, and we've got mustard games for kids of all ages.
Yeah, we are trying to hook them.
What can people expect?
How much time do they need to go to the Mustard Museum?
I'm sure that's an easy, you know, they can spend five minutes or two hours, but what's that experience like?
And what, you as curator, what are you hoping they walk away with?
Just a bigger love of mustard, tons of products.
What's that visit like?
Well, in the gift shop, which is separate from the nonprofit museum, but you can taste hundreds of mustards.
Probably about 80 different mustards at a given time.
And also, you're going to see the world's largest collection of mustards.
We have over 7,000 different mustards from all around the world.
you?
Oh, yeah, I've done it.
I've done it.
Is it
No.
No, it's not.
It's really not a hard process, although the skill of the mustard maker is really crucial.
So, I mean, there can be just ordinary mustards, but a really good mustard is really a thing to behold.
It immediately made me think of like a sommelier or just someone who's into wine.
Like, can someone like you
who's an aficionado about mustard, go back to just basic yellow mustard, or do you have to have more nuanced mustards for your palate or someone of your sophisticated knowledge of mustard?
Well, when I go to the ballpark, and I often do because I'm still a fan of baseball, but the first thing I have to do is get a hot dog with the yellow mustard, hold it up to the sky.
I just look at it and and it's it just brings me home.
That's so great.
You know, yellow mustard is not something I look down on.
In fact, French is a supporter of the non-profit mustard museum.
No kidding.
Well, that's pretty cool.
yeah, I think they've won three and I'm also have to report to you that they Red Sox beat the twins today 13 to 1
I have.
had the
Well, we've got honey mustard, sweet hot mustard, yellow mustard, we've got fruit mustard, herb mustard, exotic mustard, like we could have Dishon mustard flavored with truffles, for example, which is quite elegant.
And we've been holding the worldwide mustard competition every year since 1995.
And there are now 18 categories of mustard and the judges which are made up of food writers, chefs and mustard aficionados like me.
Although I don't judge them because I know too many of them just by tasting.
So, you know, that's a curse for me.
But, you know, this year's chef or grand prize winner was made in Finland.
Last year it was made in Argentina.
So mustard is really universal.
I binge watching.
You know, I tune in occasionally to MSNBC, which is kind of my favorite station.
Sure.
I'm trying to think if I binge watch anything.
I don't really, because I'm kind of preoccupied with mustard, which is terrible.
I know that.
Oh,
Okay.
And astala mustard.
Welcome back to Night Lights.
I'm Pete Schwab.
This is a fun show.
We talked movies, music, and mustard.
And we covered, we hit Milwaukee, Northeast Wisconsin, and Madison.
That is a show.
And I'm glad I was able to do that on a night when one of my superiors is here, and he joins us now.
Superior at work, Aaron.
I'm not saying in every aspect of life,
But you're a pretty good guy.
Aaron Corena joins me now here to help me wrap things up.
I mean, hey, I fill in for you.
So I like to do it.
I do your salad favorite.
I've done it once.
You know, it's just I'm looking at the question of the night.
You're your least favorite vegetable that you like now.
Can someone give me some clarity?
Is a squash, is that a vegetable or fruit?
I think it's a vegetable.
this way.
I still don't like it.
idea what's wrong with this guy.
I was driving up here, and I heard that.
I was like, now I'm coming in.
Now I want to get more clarity off air.
And right now, why?
Did you have a bad batch?
I think I just don't like
you don't you don't even like dipping like a baguette into the soup and
taking a big bite I'll do it in broccoli cheddar.
guy.
Well, you've been
I was for a night.
OK.
And then my partner and I do like to sell.
We do like solo trip once a year.
to clear the brain
and just kind of relax.
So I went up
to Calgary.
Yeah,
It was gorgeous.
probably.
I loved it because on Monday I woke up and I was getting ready to go to the airport and it says, United has canceled your flight.
I went, awesome.
I got another day here.
Thank you.
Thank
you.
Believe it or not, it's not.
It's actually what the locals call it.
It's like your Texas is our Alberta.
Oh, really?
Yeah, it's got a lot of they got the stampede up there.
So there's like
cowboy culture and that type of thing.
The poutine is the same everywhere.
But yeah, I mean, a lot of people walking around in hats and boots and they like the flames and more of a Canucks.
But that's all right.
Louise, you know, they're about an hour and a half away.
I didn't end up doing that because I'm not like a hiker, I'm like a city guy.
So,
but it was still fun.
I had a great time.
Is it hard to come back to work if you've been gone that long?
Sometimes it's like, oh, like even when I took, I think I've only taken a couple of days.
Although last summer I took like five days off and I was like, I got back and I'm like, how do I do this again?
Like it really does clear your brain.
It's kind of a good thing.
I
did feel pretty refreshed, but I was so tired yesterday.
You know, it's like, I'm just not good on planes sleeping.
I can't do it.
I can
glass of wine.
I can watch how I met your mother for the 80th time, but I can't do anything else.
See, that's Conrad's favorite show.
He does have some redeeming
Is that
My favorite show of all time, yeah.
So we have one thing.
There we go.
That's something to build on.
Folks, this has been a fun night.
I've got two great guests tomorrow.
This is Civic Media All-Star and it's All-Star show tomorrow and it's kicked off here with Aaron's appearance, surprise appearance here at WGBW.
But tomorrow night I've got Jimmy, Civic Media Sports Director.
We know him as Jimmy Keska, making the popcorn pick of the week.
Jimmy will give us a movie recommendation, which I'm sure will be fantastic, because he has great taste in movies, whether they're kids' movies he watches with his family or his own movies.
And then from Matt Naranair, Greg Bach will be here at 720 to talk some comedy in movies.
Greg also owns a comedy club.
Have you ever been there?
No, I haven't.
That's a great show, by the
way.
Tomorrow
night.
You gotta ask Jimmy about his collectibles.
Because
I'm on
Zoom calls with him.
I
around since the last call?
I love Jimmy comes on and the last time he was here, I think we were talking about the boys.
He was really into that show, which I could kind of, I think it started strong, but I could have taken her left it by the end of it.
But Jimmy, he's very knowledgeable and Greg knows comedy, knows movies and does a great job with Jane.
So yes, great people.
We're very fortunate to have him.
I totally agree.
And then Friday, folks, we've got a Barbie on Friday night coming up.
And Spencer Young.
From Forever Young Designs.
Tell the fine people, our listeners, if you can quickly, and Aaron, what Spencer does.
Well,
Does he come up with a slogan or does he just slap the paint on because either way that's quite the amount of work Oh, yeah, like to be that finite in there.
Definitely, you know what I mean, especially painting cleats.
I mean, it's incredible
Yeah.
Kudos on the bumper.
I did ask you to do that, but next time we got to make sure we have enough.
That's such a great song.
It is.
We've got to find out.
You got to give me a sign and say, Schwabba, shut your trap a few seconds early so we can hear more of Kaelin Cole.
Aaron is great seeing you.
I will see you tomorrow morning.
Fun to have you in town.
See you in the
morning.
I'll be listening tomorrow
well, hopefully we'll make your
it, man.
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