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Laughs, Flicks, and Soup(Hour 1)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Wed Jul 30, 2025
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now a guy who still likes to build a fort.
Pete Chwaba.
Welcome to Night Light.
I am Pete Schwabba.
Happy Wednesday, everybody.
Hope you had a great day.
And whatever got you here, thank you for being here.
I hope we can help you ease into your night.
A little easier as we talk about some of the things we love to talk about in life.
Conrad, how are you?
I'm doing
good.
Yeah?
Yeah, I had a little gelato before when I got in the studio.
It's pretty good.
And
cappuccino flavor.
Oh, the cappuccino's good.
That they have a Dubai chocolate.
Have you had that?
I did.
I think they're out of it right now, but I did try it
because I was
interested.
I was interested and that was good.
I went in there last night and they were out of it.
And now they said they're going to have it back, but they like crush pistachios or something and put it's like the best.
Well, I guess it's not ice cream.
I mean,
it's more of like a salty with that chocolate.
Yeah.
It's really good.
It's dynamite.
What do you, is gelato like more creamy than custard?
Or less.
I have no idea.
Come on, man.
I thought you were a producer.
It is good stuff though.
And I, it's just a beautiful night in Wisconsin.
It's like finally, it finally feels like a normal summer day.
It's like in the 70s, slightly muggy probably.
I don't think the air quality is that great, but who cares about that,
right?
You know, it's at 170, no biggie.
Is it really at 170?
Last time I checked, it was at 170.
What is
the danger zone?
That is unhealthy.
Okay.
That's what it says.
And I was, I was going across the bridge back home when I was at the gym before and it just looked like there was a forest fire because of how
muggy.
How like, there was so much fog and it was a fog though.
And it's Canadian, right?
Yeah.
If they want us to not think of them as a suburb, they have to stop with the air.
Come on, Canada.
Get it, get it together.
Welcome to Nightlight, folks.
Great show tonight.
Fun guests.
We got a jam-packed schedule here.
We have three guests tonight, and we are talking movies, music, and mustard.
How's that for a show?
And how's that for some alliteration?
We're gonna talk at 635 with our pal Matt Miller.
He's a Milwaukee film critic.
Oh God, it's one of those nights.
He's a credit?
He's a credit.
I haven't talked much today.
I gotta work this out.
I gotta stretch out on the air.
And that's never fun.
I feel sorry for you, the listener.
Matt is a Milwaukee film critic who will be here at 635.
We're gonna talk about, he saw Fantastic Four, so I'm curious as to what he had to say that.
And I don't think we've talked to Matt since Superman came out, so we'll discuss that.
And lots of fun stuff, as always, with one of our favorites, Matt Miller.
And then in the second hour, Kim Moffey will be here.
She is the social media coordinator
for Appleton's Mile of Music.
Have you ever gone to that?
No?
I have
not.
It's supposed to be just spectacular.
I hear it's just a fantastic summer festival.
It goes on for, do you know how long the stretch of music is?
A mile?
It's like a mile.
Kim will be here to talk about Mile of Music and we'll get to know her a little bit.
We've had some fun guests on from Appleton over the years.
over the years, over the year and a half, and we're adding Kim to that list.
We are excited to meet her and talk to her in the second hour, and then at 7.35, folks, it's movies, music, and of course, mustard.
Now, I say this often.
This might be the first time on radio, in radio history, someone has covered music, movies, and mustard in the same show.
If people can challenge that,
Bring it, folks.
Fight me.
It might have been done before.
Who knows?
Maybe.
I doubt it, though.
Who's crazy enough to say we're going to talk about music and movies, and then we need some kind of delicacy, some kind of condiment?
We are going to welcome Barry Levinson, who is the curator of the National Mustard Museum in Middleton, Wisconsin.
I had the pleasure to stroll into that museum.
Saturday after I had breakfast across the street.
And I thought it looked so cool.
And National Mustard Day is coming up, folks.
It's August 2nd.
I don't know how you're planning or preparing on how to celebrate, but I assume you're formulating a game plan, one of our favorite condiments.
We're going to talk about that tonight at 7.35 with Barry Levinson, no relation to Barry Levinson.
And we have a fun, should we do the question?
Let's do that.
Here's our nightlight question of the night.
Let's talk about the
question.
Okay, question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
Okay, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Question.
Questions.
What is a vegetable or fruit you hated as a kid but like now?
What is a vegetable or fruit you hated as a kid but like now?
Let us know.
75 Civic or you can text us on the app or if you're watching the radio on the stream on X Facebook or YouTube You can drop us a message in the stream chat, which is always fun, too.
I'm gonna start I'm gonna say avocado I Wouldn't say I hated it as a kid, but I wanted nothing to do with the avocado.
I didn't like the texture of the consistency I didn't think it had much taste and now every chance I get
I eat an avocado.
Avocado's so good.
Superfood.
And yeah, it's tasty.
A little salt or garlic, onion, whatever you like to put in your guacamole.
Some people do tomato.
I'm not really a tomato in my guac kind of guy.
I usually just mash up the avocado.
It's great.
I really like to use it on sandwiches, like with slices,
you know?
Absolutely.
Avocado toast, dynamite.
So let us know what you think, folks.
I'll also say, you know, some people are going to say avocados are fruit.
Well, that's why it's vegetable or fruit
or fruit.
So Chris Casper, if you're listening, you don't have to.
You don't have to.
Hey, was this posted on social media today?
I don't see it.
Yes, it was.
What is going on with my Facebook?
I think I need a new social media.
Maybe I just need to change my name.
You think that would help?
I don't know.
What are you gonna change it to?
I don't know like lone wolf or something cool Conrids is broccoli.
So broccoli is yours.
I used to you know, just despise it
Yeah,
but I really like it steamed with some salt on it.
Yeah some
black pepper
Absolutely
or just with some, you know, Wisconsin cheddar over it like the cheese sauce.
I can't do broccoli and cheese
What about the soup?
No, thanks
I like broccoli with a little bit of olive oil and some garlic mixed in.
Maybe some salt.
That's the only soup I can do is broccoli and cheddar.
That's the only soup you can eat is broccoli and cheddar?
I hate soup.
Oh my god, who hates soup?
That's tomorrow night's question.
Why does Conrad hate soup?
Are you sure you're American?
Uh, what do you do on fall days?
Don't you like a big pot of beef stew or Senate bean or something?
Come on.
This is what I make a quesadilla and I have some really hot sauce on it.
All right.
That, that heats me up.
I don't mean to kind of jump all over you there, but I think you kind of deserved it.
Have you ever met anyone else that doesn't like soup like you?
If you ever meet a girl who doesn't like soup, you should propose to her on the spot because that is a, that is a cosmic sign.
I think that's hilarious.
We gotta have some fun with that.
I
just don't like the water-based, I don't know, the water-based to it or you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like chicken broth or whatever's in it.
I just don't like how soupy it
is.
Well, that's interesting.
I have to say I'm kind of flabbergasted there, but I like all kinds of soup.
I don't eat it enough It's really healthy to Conrad.
I mean you should learn to like soup just like you learn to like broccoli or an avocado
Well, those are you know pretty easy to Cook up soup is like if you have it in the cane.
I feel like that's That's some gross stuff.
Oh, well, that's all that's not even really soup.
It's just like chemicals Right, I mean
The main, I hate a lot of canned stuff.
Like canned tuna's the worst.
You hate canned, I knew that about you.
So canned soup also to me is.
One time I went out to a bar with a friend I haven't seen in a while.
And after we went to the gas station right in front of our house in Milwaukee.
We got some drunk snacks.
He grabbed a can of like loaded potato soup and
made it at 2
a.m.
And I was like, all right, I gotta go to bed.
I can't watch you eat the other.
So I'm gonna throw
up.
But that should tell you how much people love soup.
I guess so.
I had, when I went to that steakhouse in Madison, the tornado club with my son last Friday, Joe and I went there and I always like, I love a good clam chowder.
Like when it's done, right?
I can't eat much.
I can't eat many foods that have cream in it.
It really,
grosses me out.
But for whatever reason, I'm exempt from clam chowder.
So I always like to try a place's clam chowder.
If I hear it's good and I had it, it was dynamite.
It was outstanding.
So you won't eat clam chowder.
Do you like clams?
I haven't.
I've had it a couple of times.
I don't go after it.
But if it's, you know, out for the table, all of a couple,
you'll eat the clams, but not if they're in the chowder.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That loses you.
Okay, fair enough.
That will be, we are gonna have folks tomorrow night on the show, we're gonna have some type of soup related question.
I will think of something because this is shocking news today that the kid Conrad Krieger does not like soup.
A blanket statement, not like, I don't like, you know, French onion.
You don't like soup.
Yeah.
Wow.
But the only one I can do is broccoli cheddar.
And that's like the grossest soup ever.
It's the one you like.
It's overload on cheese.
Just take the broccoli out.
I see that.
I don't know why that's always grossed me out.
It's tough.
See
me.
I used to work at Cousins and they have a really good broccoli cheddar and I'd always get that with a sub for lunch.
Okay, what's your sub at Cousins?
I had so many.
I'd make it my own concoction
of
sub.
I do like a pepperoni milk and I add bacon to it.
Oh my
gosh.
And I had ham to it.
Pepper jack bass.
I used to use that in McDonald's too.
I put like a quarter pounder on the grill and I'd chop it up.
Like it was kind of like a sloppy joke.
It's no different though.
Like we got off at a huge food tangent here.
I had so much to discuss.
It's Arnold Schwarzenegger's birthday.
Lisa Kudrow.
I told a group in Madison last weekend that when I go to Planet Fitness, I use the hydro massager, but I lay on my stomach.
You should have seen the react and I let it fester for a minute before I said I'm kidding But they all looked at me like I was the biggest pervert in the world like can you imagine if you went into Planet Fitness or a gym and saw a guy laying on the hydro massager on his stomach Call the authorities.
You gave me an idea though
Well, until you meet that girl that doesn't like soup, you might have to go in and use the Hydro Massager in your tummy.
All right.
Our question of the night, folks, is what vegetable or fruit did you hate as a kid?
But like now, I said avocado, Conrad says broccoli, and he doesn't like soup.
And I'm trying to get through the night.
I'm going to muscle through the show, but I'm struggling with that one.
I have to say, let us know what your answer is.
And we've got lots of fun tonight.
Matt Miller's on the show.
He'll be here at 635 to talk about the Fantastic Four and Superman.
And he saw an animated version of Predator on Hulu.
I was not aware of that.
So we'll talk to Matt about that too.
And I think he finished the pit.
which is supposed to be a fantastic show.
I don't really dig medical dramas, but I guess if it's done well enough, I could do it.
And the Naked Gun comes out this weekend.
That's going to be exciting.
And it's getting like incredible reviews, like 92% for
comedy.
I wouldn't expect that because I mean, the trailer is
stupid.
Yeah.
I don't think I've seen the trailer.
I love Liam Neeson.
I didn't want this to be bad.
At least it doesn't sound like it's not bad.
And I've heard, I talked to someone at Flix Brewhouse, this girl, Summer, who kind of does all the marketing.
She says they have someone on staff there that has seen it already three times and loves like it's that funny.
Well, I got a movie to go to.
So yeah, me too.
I'll definitely check it out.
All right, we're coming right back, folks.
Let's see.
When we come back, we're going to talk about Lisa Kudrow.
It's Pete Schwab.
Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Welcome
back to Night Lights.
I am Pete Schwab.
Great to have you with me on this gorgeous Wednesday night broadcasting live from beautiful downtown Green Bay on a gorgeous Wisconsin summer night.
Matt Miller will be with us in just a minute.
Our question of the night is, what is a fruit or vegetable you hated as a kid, but that you like now?
We've had some great answers and we were in the middle of a quick conversation with Ali.
Is she still on the line Conrad?
Let's have Ali finish her phone call.
Hey
there.
Hi, I'm still here.
All right.
Well, the story is actually about one of my grandsons when he was little.
We always had guacamole with tacos and stuff, and I always tried to get him to try just a little bit, a little taste.
And time after time, he refused.
And so I just started to put a little dab on his plate.
And then a couple of months later, his mom asked him what treat he wanted her to buy for his birthday.
That's a
great story.
Ollie, thank you so much.
Have a wonderful evening.
All right.
All right.
Ollie from the North Woods.
Guacamole can be a vegetable or fruit, if you think.
Like I said, I just make it with avocado pretty much.
Sometimes I'll put garlic and a red onion, a little salt or lime.
It's still a vegetable.
I had a bunch of junk.
Onions.
Yeah.
Tomatoes.
Sure.
That's what I like.
I love it all.
We have a...
Our next guest, folks, he joins us frequently here on Nightlight to talk movies and TV and cool things in Wisconsin.
And he joins us now over the stream, Milwaukee film critic Matt Miller.
Hey, Matt.
Howdy, howdy, howdy.
How are
we doing?
Good.
Now, what is going on?
You have a pet.
Is everything OK?
Everything's going well.
We got a new puppy, a little cute little shelter named Hot Dish, because my wife is from Minnesota.
You know if you know.
And we're teaching her how to be a good dog, a good puppy.
So unfortunately, that means that at 7.30 tonight, I have to drop her off at puppy school,
where she will
learn how to be a good puppy.
But in the meantime, I get to talk movies with you.
Yeah.
You have a heart out at 7, though, right?
Not 7.30.
Not 7.30.
Yeah, 7.
Not 7.30.
It's
about a half hour away the place.
All right.
I think puppy school sounds great.
And I wish you luck with that, my friend.
Thank you.
She's a very good little puppy.
We just want to make sure she grows up and do a good teen dog and an adult dog too, you know?
All right.
Matt, did you have a vegetable you hated as a kid that you like now?
Most of them.
Honestly, I was a classic picky eater as a kid.
Um, I think broccoli, like I always like, I was the weird kid who liked the vegetables other kids didn't like.
Like I liked broccoli.
I like dysparagus.
I like
Brussels sprouts.
Yeah.
I don't know if there's one that I've come around to, honestly, because I came around to a lot of the hard ones.
Yeah, it's interesting because when I was a kid, I didn't love vegetables, but I don't know that we had the olive oil salt option either when we were kids.
I just remember butter or just steamed or whatever, like no frill, you know, but now.
It's just a whole different world.
Hey, I had last week, Matt, I thought of you because one of my questions of the night for last week when I was in Madison, it was Woody Harrelson's birthday.
And it was, what is your favorite Woody Harrelson role or show?
And I thought, what would Matt Miller say to this question?
Ooh, that's a very good question, actually.
I
mean,
he's incredible on True Detective.
I know McConaughey gets a lot of credit for that.
But I think if Woody Harrelson doesn't balance him out on the comedy side of things and lighten things up, that show is True Detective season two.
I think you desperately need Woody Harrelson to kind of
Levity is the wrong word for that show but just to bring a different energy to what everything else that very serious show is doing so I think he's great in that He's very good in the messenger.
That was his big kind of Oscar recent Oscar play.
He's rather good in that Small independent movie from I think 2008.
I
have not seen that.
Okay.
Yeah,
and
then I mean he's so much fun in zombie land It's kind of an obvious answer, but I think he's just a hoot in a holler and
He's great.
And I think he's just one of those guys.
People want him on their set.
He's a good guy.
He seems like he's easy to have around.
He's likable.
Uh, I agree with you on true detective.
I also added no country for old men, even though he doesn't have a huge part really well done.
I love how he goes from swagger to being in the presence of sugar and just kind of crumpling a little bit, you know,
he's, I forget that you forget that he's in that movie, but
you're
right.
He does.
He fits so perfectly into that, that movie's world.
And he's just.
an actor who, you know, he shows up and brings energy.
He brings a weight to him.
He's just, you know, one of those character actors that we just don't have enough of, enough of them in the pipeline where they
show
up and they have their own distinct energy.
That's
a great idea to put it.
That can just
immediately make you trust the movie you're watching.
Yes, that's very well said.
Oh, you know what else?
He's really good in the Hunger Games movies.
Oh, yeah.
Some people said mention that too, which I also forgot he was in that.
He's like, the guy's done so many movies.
You do forget some of the films he's been in.
Yeah.
And I mean, all but one of those Hunger Games movies is good.
Like pretty much every Hunger Games movie, those middle ones are really strong.
We'd remember that franchise a lot better if the final
one, the Catching Fire part two wasn't such a kind of like damp squib to end the franchise
on.
I know
they had the new one, the prequel a few years ago, but that's kind of its own, its own beast.
Yeah.
I don't think we've spoken since I think the last big summer film that came out after we spoke with Superman.
Yeah,
we did a last one I think we got to talk about was Jurassic World.
Yes.
Yeah.
Let's start with Superman thoughts.
I really liked it.
I think it's really good.
I have some issues with it.
I think it does a lot of telling, not showing in the beginning
of the
movie.
And I think that's part of the problem when you're on your fourth reboot of a character that you get afraid of doing the foundational stuff.
because you're like, oh, people already know back.
So we want to get right into it.
But the problem is you kind of miss the emotional foundation that would make the end of that movie really hit and some of the
emotions
really hit.
But I think James Gunn is an incredible writer.
I think I love what he does with these characters.
I think he manages to make the stuff that I was fearing about the movie work, the Justice Gang stuff.
I was really expecting the movie to feel bloated and kind of overburdened with setting up other heroes.
But I think he does a really good job of weaving them into the story and weaving them into the world without it feeling cynical.
He kind of pulls off the same move with crypto, which, you know, should feel like a cheat cutesy.
This is for the kids element, but instead it's really funny.
It's very charming.
And I like the Superman.
After a decade of grumpy Superman, of emo Superman, feeling so aggrieved he has to help the world, it's really nice to see a Superman who saves a squirrel in the middle of an action sequence, who does things because he wants to help people.
And that is his drive.
I think David Korn's sweats really terrific.
I think the whole cast is really terrific.
And I think the greatest compliment I can give the Superman movie is that it makes me want to see another Superman movie.
I want to
see more of the Superman.
And that's if you're Warner Brothers, that has to be the best thing in the world that you're going to make a sequel with characters I want to see as opposed to we're making a sequel because the studio insists that we make a sequel.
And that's when you get a good franchise.
When people want to see the next chapter, not feel like they have to see the next chapter.
Yeah, that's great.
It's interesting too, because I'm a story guy over effects any day of the week, but I will say the CGI was there in Jurassic Park and with Superman when he flies in this.
You feel like you feel it in your bones.
I mean, it's just like, it's really there.
The CGI has gotten so much better in movies like this.
Yeah, it's got a really good energy to it.
It's got a comic book.
Zip to it feels like a comic book movie in the best way possible it feels kind of unapologetically nerdy and Weird and there's weird creatures in it and you're just like yeah, of course I love that weird creature Why would there not be and like it's it's also classic James Gunn and that he brings in kind of weird horror elements to it.
Yeah, such a love for like
characters that for some odd reason like you would never have a love for like the fact that Mr. Terrific or I think I probably screwed up his name there.
I think it's Mr. Terrific.
Um, I had no idea who this guy was.
I don't even know who he is now, but the movie does gives him such great sequences because James Gunn loves underdogs.
He's loved him since Guardians.
He's loved him since his earliest filmmaking days.
And I think he brings that to
We lost Matt's sound.
Can you hear me, Matt?
He may be muted his computer.
There we go.
Matt, are you back?
I am.
Did
I go?
Your voice cut out about 20 seconds ago, or 10 or 20 seconds ago.
Oh,
no.
I'm so sorry.
I'm sure that was there.
I think James Gunn does a great job of making things, weaving underdogs into his movies and making you care about characters you would have never cared about in any other movie.
I would have liked to have seen more of Wendell Pierce.
That was so weird.
I know that everybody says, well, they probably just had to cut stuff, obviously.
But no, I agree with you.
Superman was fun.
Let's get to Fantastic Four.
I have not seen Fantastic Four.
Conrad saw it.
But our guest, Matt Miller, Milwaukee film critic here, did see it.
And what did you think of the Fantastic Four, Matt?
I enjoyed it.
I really enjoyed it while I was watching it.
It kind of has a similar Superman thing where it's really energetic.
It kind of throws you into the story.
I love that it's a Marvel movie that has texture to it, that has clearly real sets and real costumes and real humans in it.
It's nice to see in Marvel.
They kind of got lost in the CGI goop looking at you, Ant-Man 3.
It feels too controlled.
It feels too on rails.
I want that movie to have a little bit more air and life in it.
And it's just, it feels, you watch the movie and you're kind of thrilled and you're having fun, but it feels like a movie.
It feels
like
storytelling.
And you kind of just want a little bit more time to like let, oh, that's a really interesting idea.
Let's sit on that idea for a little bit.
Oh, this is a really like cool moment right now.
I'd love to sit in this moment.
And the movie is just constantly kind of being like, no, we have to tell our story.
No, we have to, we have to do stuff.
I've liked it less since I've been away with it from it, but I enjoyed it.
It's an enjoyable summer blockbuster.
It's the first and only good fantastic four movie, unless
you
include the Incredibles, which is the best fantastic four
movie.
Oh, wow.
Matt, before we have to do, well, we've got about a minute and a half before a break, but Eddington, and I know what you did last summer.
You saw both of those.
I heard from a couple Jaded people they didn't like Eddington, and then I've heard it's incredible.
So where do you stand on Eddington with Pedro Pascal?
Yeah, I am with the Jaded people.
This is the big divisive movie of the summer, Ari Aster's 2020 satire.
I think that satires should consider being funny at some point.
And I
never found Eddington ever really funny.
I didn't find the jokes.
I didn't get on the wavelength of Ari Aster's sense of humor in that movie.
And I think he's trying to say stuff about people getting lost to conspiracies and insanity.
And then the third act of that movie kind of botches that idea in very strange ways.
There are people who are coming to love it.
I think this is going to be the most divisive movie of the summer.
But yeah, I'm on the side of I just don't think it works for me.
And the characters are not even half sketched.
I mean Emma Stone and Austin Butler in the movie for maybe a combined 10 minutes.
And neither
of them have a character really to play.
It just doesn't really have the focus.
that you need.
And if I'm going to sit around in 2020 for two and a half hours again, I want to get more out of it than just like, man, crazy times.
Am I right?
Like,
yeah, we all know that.
I need a little bit more than that.
All right, we're coming right back.
We have a few more minutes left with Matt Miller.
We're going to talk to Matt about, I know what you did last summer, and he's going to give us a preview of what's still to come this summer.
It's Peach Wabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio
Network.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabble.
Great to have you with me on this Wednesday night here in the beautiful state of Wisconsin as we broadcast statewide here and talk about the things in life we love.
Movies and TV, comedy, music, you name it.
Tonight we're talking Mustard.
and music and movies.
At 7.30, Barry Levinson, the curator of the National Mustard Museum in Madison will be here and we're talking Mile of Music with Kim Mothy at 7.05.
Right now we've got some more movie talk with our current guest and one of our nightlight besties, Matt Miller, Milwaukee film critic, Matt.
So what did you think I feel like I know what you're gonna say, but like I know what you did last summer is not getting a ton of great press What did you think of it?
It's not getting great press because it's not a great movie.
I did not enjoy very much I think it's really generic and really kind of for a serial killer slasher movie Not a single memorable kill or scare which is kind
of
you know the ultimate
doom for a movie like this.
And I, it's just really punchless.
I think there's a really fun, I know what you did last summer movie to be made.
I don't know if you've ever seen the horror movie Unfriended, but like, I want a version of this idea, you know, of kids accidentally kill a guy and cover it up.
And a year later, somebody's trying to get revenge.
That movie should be so much fun and mean.
punishing
these
kids.
And the movie is kind of like, they don't even kill the guy in the movie.
They don't even like actually end up doing the murder.
So it's kind of a bite-less, punch-less horror movie.
Yeah, you can skip that
one.
And listen, we've all accidentally killed a guy.
Make it believable.
Just, uh, hey, uh, Matt, what is coming up that you still want to see?
I know Naked Gun opens this weekend.
The bad guys two, uh, both reviewing very well.
I love that there's a comedy coming back to the big screen.
I don't know that it gets there without the Naked Gun franchise behind it, but, uh, great that it's reviewing incredibly well.
I've heard good things.
What have you heard and what else can we look forward to this summer?
I've also heard really great things about the naked gun, and I don't think it's just because we're so thirsty for a new comedy that will just take anything.
I've heard that it has that classic Zazz airplane naked gun style of like every joke we thought of, it's in the movie, you know?
And I think the guys behind it, they're the Lonely Island guys.
It's a Kiva Schaefer who did McGroober, who did Popstar, Never Stop, Never Stopping.
They love the stuff that they do.
They love the stuff that they're riffing.
off of and they're really good at just constantly throwing gags at the audience.
So I'm really looking forward to Naked Gun.
I can't wait to see it this weekend.
And I know August has this reputation of being like the other summer month where like no big blockbusters come out.
But there's a ton of really interesting stuff coming out this upcoming month from huge names.
So next weekend, you've got Freakier Friday and Weapons, which I'm very excited for Weapons.
That's the new horror movie from the guy who did Barbarian, the
Airbnb horror
movie.
Yeah, I've heard great stuff about Weapons.
That's another really buzzy movie.
I think it might be a quiet hit here at the end of the month.
And then you've got a new Spike Lee movie coming out next month, highest
to
lowest with Denzel Washington.
That sounds awesome.
You've got a new movie from one of the Cohen brothers, Honey Don't, a kind of, you know, dark comedy, Western kind of, you know, detective mystery.
That seems, I mean, I will see another Cohen movie.
And you have a
new movie from Darren Aronofsky at the end of the month, caught stealing with Austin Butler and Zoe Kravitz.
So.
You've got all these really cool directors making really interesting stuff.
I hope people, you know, we've had a kind of slow July, because it's been a lot of franchises, a lot of, you know, reboots and stuff of that nature.
August is where if you are looking for original stuff from great filmmakers, there's so much really interesting stuff coming out.
That's really good to know.
And I just looked up weapons.
I kind of forgot about that.
Josh Brolin, Julia Garner, 100% on Rotten Tomatoes.
But don't confuse it, folks, with the 207 weapons starring Nick Cannon and Paul Dano, which got a zero on Rotten Tomatoes.
That's a big
swing there.
Yeah, yeah, definitely make sure you get to the right one.
But yeah, I've heard great things about weapons.
It's the kind of movie, honestly, that I saw the first trailer for it.
And I was like, I don't need to see any more.
I'm
so
I don't want to see any more for you.
So when like a trailer starts before a movie, I like walk out of the theater.
I'm like, I don't need to see
anything
else.
I'm all set.
I'm all good.
But I've heard really good stuff about weapons.
And again, you know, New Spike Lee, a new Coen brother movie.
You know, a new remake of The War of the Roses is coming
out with
Benedict Cumberbatch and Olivia Coleman, who I don't love the director of that movie, Jay Roach.
He's not my favorite director, but...
I mean, it's Benedict Cumberbatch and Olivia Coleman.
That's a great cast.
And that's another comedy.
There's a lot of comedies coming out here at the end of the summer.
Hopefully, if one of them hits, we could get comedies in other months of the year too.
What a fun
concept that would be.
Yeah, we've about a minute left, Matt.
Have you seen Together or have you heard that?
That's another one reviewing off the charts.
Yeah, and that's another one that I've been avoiding the trailers for a because I had heard it give they give a decent amount away But B I don't want to be so it looks really fun for those who don't know that's Dave Franco and Allison Brie
the less creepy brother
Yeah, who yeah the less cancelled one Who and a couple and they are joining together take that as literally as you want to I've heard great stuff.
It looks like it's gonna be
a late summer kind of hit.
The reviews are really good for it.
I know it had a lot of buzz out of the earlier festivals this year.
I'm really excited about it.
We had a really slow July.
The big movies were big, but the problem was there were no other movies.
Only six movies came out in wide release.
Like
wide release
has passed month.
That's not great.
So it's
kind of nice that August is like, let's try some different projects and maybe some stuff hits here.
I have
Seeing the early numbers, it looks like Naked Gun might do well at the box office, which gives me hope that maybe some more comedies will show up on the horizon.
And the more variety you get in theaters, the more people you will get back into theaters.
Definitely.
And I think don't underestimate the comedies, too.
If they come back, I think they'll draw people to the theaters, too.
Matt, take care of that doggy.
Thank you so much, as always, for your time, buddy.
And we will talk again soon, I'm sure.
Hot dish says hi.
Thanks for having me,
dude.
Woof, woof.
All right, that's Matt Miller.
Milwaukee Film Critic.
Great stuff.
All right, our question of the night, folks.
What is a vegetable you hate as a kid that you like now?
We'll read the text when we come back and we'll recap the show and act two.
That's coming up next after intermission.
It's Peach Waba and Nightlight on the Civic Media radio network.
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now a guy who considers a silver medal, a participation award, Pete Chwaba.
I got no room for second place, ladies and gentlemen, even though I've never been there myself.
Hey, it's Pete Schwabble.
Welcome back to Night Light.
We are back for Act Two.
We had a great discussion hour one about movies with Matt Miller.
The theme of tonight's show, folks, is movies, music, and mustard.
I don't think this has ever been done before in the history of radio where someone has chosen to speak about such a variety of topics, but we're doing it here tonight on Night Light where we make radio history.
bi-annually.
Great to have you with me on this Wednesday night.
We talked about in the first hour how Conrad does not like soup, unless it's broccoli cheese, which I find to be the most disgusting soup.
So we're on the opposite ends of the spectrum there.
And we will have a super-related question tomorrow, folks.
You are welcome to suggest one if you like.
But this has to be addressed.
Nobody does not like soup, blanket statement, just kind of a blanket rejection of soup overall.
But our question of the night is, what is a vegetable that you hated as a kid or fruit that you like now?
I said avocado.
Conrad said broccoli.
A lot of people have said broccoli.
We'll play catch up on your texts in just a few minutes after we speak with our next guest, Kim, who is going to talk a mile of music.
We did the movie part.
Now we're going to do the music part, and then we do the mustard part with Barry Levinson from the National Mustard Museum in Middleton, Wisconsin as National Mustard Day is just around the corner.
Only two more shopping days count right until National Mustard Day.
Did you know
that?
I need to get more honey mustard.
Get those cherry honey mustard.
Is that what it was?
Yeah, and it's phenomenal.
And we also talked with Matt about Naked Gun, which we're both hearing amazing things about as we welcome comedy back.
into theaters on the big screen.
That's going to be exciting.
And my pick of the week, classic movie pick is Jaws.
They're re-releasing that too.
And that's
Sharknado.
That movie totally holds up.
Sharknado.
It's better than Jaws.
It's a fine piece of cinematic art, but it's not Jaws.
All right, let's keep this train moving here.
It is my pleasure to welcome our next guest.
She is the social media coordinator
for the Mile of Music Festival in Appleton.
She's a very busy person, but she's taking a few minutes out of her busy schedule here to talk to us at Nightlight.
Please join me in welcoming Kim Mothy.
Hi, Kim.
Hey, thanks for having me.
It's my pleasure.
Did I get the last name right?
You did.
Yes.
I appreciate you asking.
All right.
Sometimes even with phonetic help, I still just am a spaz and I don't get people's names right.
So I'm, and I'm, my last name is Schwabba, which people massacre all the time.
So.
I
just got married about a year ago, and my maiden name was Willems, and so I'd always get Williams.
And then when I got married, my husband was like, oh, it's still going to happen.
And it does happen
sometimes.
It's just when you add up all the time spent in your life explaining your name, spelling your name, it gets costly at a certain point.
Do you have a vegetable, Kim?
You didn't like as a kid that you like now?
You know, I was thinking about that as you said that I've always actually enjoyed vegetables.
I feel like I was kind of a weird kid that way, but I definitely enjoy like broccoli more now than I did as a kid.
Okay, that's good.
That's kind of like our consensus.
Yeah, that is a standard one, but what about soup?
I'm trying to- I love soup.
Yeah,
I'm soup
shaming Conrad tonight because I just don't believe his dislike of soup.
Are you a soup fan?
I'm a huge soup
fan.
Okay.
And if any of my friends are watching, they will love that you asked me that question.
Why is that?
I
just, I don't know.
I always, I like soup any time of year.
Okay.
In
winter, in summer.
I don't know, just they kind of make fun of me for it.
I'm with you.
You're like the anti-conred, but he doesn't mind that.
That's so cool.
All right, so before we get into My Love Music, tell us a little bit about your background, Kim.
Let's get to know Kim.
Yeah, so my background with My Love Music, I went to school for public relations and advertising.
My dad, Dave Willems, is the co-founder of My Love Music, so
it's kind of
like that.
a car ride home from college situation and he's like hey I think we're going to be starting this music festival would you be interested I had a serving job in the summer at the time up in Appleton and I was like yeah you know I could help with that and now I'm here and it's kind of funny because I've always my dad has had his marketing firm pretty much my whole life and
I never wanted to go into marketing.
My mom also worked in PR, so I pretty much actively avoided the inevitable.
And then went to college, figured out that it was something that I enjoyed doing, and now I'm here.
Well, that's exciting.
You're the social media coordinator.
So I would imagine you know the festival, the ins and outs, nuts and bolts.
Tell us about, for people who haven't been there, tell us about the Mile of Music.
Yeah, so we're starting tomorrow July 31st through August 3rd So it's a four-day all-original music festival that takes place in downtown Appleton We take place or we have events in the coffee shops bars restaurants Parks probably a bunch of other areas.
I'm forgetting but
Really, really great.
We have 35 venues.
We also have a music education team and our big focus is on original music.
So none of us are against cover bands, but just every event has their own thing, unique thing.
And our thing is that we focus on original music.
And I think the artists really appreciate that.
We have 200 artists coming this year, which is really exciting.
I'm looking at this flyer, pamphlet, whatever you want to call it, folks.
If you want more information on who is playing, go to, I think it's just MileOfMusic.com, right, Kim?
Yep.
Yeah, and there's an artist sheet, and you're right.
Somehow you guys...
fit 200 bands on this.
It's like almost hard to read, but it's so impressive that there are this many bands just right down the street here in Appleton.
What are your favorite venues?
If people haven't, let's do this.
If people haven't been there before, where should they start?
Cause it's kind of overwhelming.
Yeah.
And I think, you know, that's something that I definitely empathize with.
Obviously, I know a lot about the festival, but I would probably be overwhelmed by all the information
too.
We do have an app as well, which is a great tool for mapping out your schedule.
seeing any schedule changes, things like that.
The app is just great to have during the festival.
So I would recommend we have a couple of areas where there are multiple venues in that one particular area.
So like Lawrence University, for example, they have three venues right on campus.
So
if
you're not interested in like, you know, walking a lot, walking up and down the street, trying to
beat the walking crowds.
That's a great spot where you could get an entire festival experience just in those three venues.
And that's also, there's the music education piece on top of that.
That's also primarily on the Lawrence campus as well.
Another example of that would be the Hilton Hotel right downtown.
They actually have five venues there
this
year.
So you get the full band, you get the full band outside, which I think will be very popular this weekend.
And then
We also have three listening room locations in that hotel as well.
My guest is Kim Mothy.
She is the social media coordinator for Mile of Music in Appleton.
It starts July 31st.
That's tomorrow, folks.
And goes through August 3rd.
700 music sets, 200 artists, 40 venues.
Where do these bands come from, Kim?
Are they all Wisconsin?
Are they from all over?
That's a great question about 45% of our lineup this year is Wisconsin based artists Probably a little closer to 50 if you add in artists who used to live here and now move to Nashville or LA or where have you but So we're very proud of that because we do have a lot of great homegrown talent here in Wisconsin.
Yeah, but we also have artists that come from
I think it's 25 different states this year, as
well
as we have one from Australia, one from the UK, and one from Canada as well.
That's great.
And what would you say in terms of music genre?
You mentioned Nashville, you mentioned LA.
Is it mostly rock country?
Is it bluegrass?
Kind of a nice mix.
What do you have, what do you feature the most?
It's definitely a mix.
I think in the...
In the past, you know, we definitely branded ourselves more as Americana, but we're kind of branching out from that a little bit.
Americana is a huge umbrella too, so there's
a lot of
genres that fall under that.
We do ask the artists to define their own genre, so we get some kind of funky submissions in that regard.
But, you know, we have artists that are country, we have folk, we have rock, we have
kind of more punk band this year.
So definitely a variety.
If you go on our app too, you can look at all of the genres that were submitted as well.
Conrad actually is a musician.
I don't know if it's too late to add him, but he's got a new song.
It's called I Hate Soup.
I don't know if... He
can't come in then if he doesn't like soup.
No anti-soup musicians.
Are you a musician, Kim?
I am not.
That's actually a question I get a lot.
I did the whole like piano lessons, band, orchestra, like all of that.
But no, my side of things is more the community aspect and of course the PR side too.
Well, that's pretty cool.
Just a couple more things here.
Is there a charge?
Like do you pay just to get into the whole festival?
Is it per venue?
How does that work?
Yeah, I'm glad you asked.
So it's an entirely free festival.
We started saying it's free to attend, but it's not free to produce.
So our nonprofit Appleton Community Music will be out asking for donations during the weekend.
They are looking to raise $100,000 at the festival, which is a high goal, but we're hopeful that people will see the value in what we're doing and support.
Appleton Community Music focuses
on
fundraising to bring the artists here, which is obviously a huge piece of our festival.
We need artists
in order to have a festival.
And then we also have Willems Marketing and Events, which is the company that runs the festival.
We also fundraise for
production and a lot of the other things that go into putting on a festival logistics with the city, things like that.
So we have corporate sponsors, individual sponsors and donors that help put this thing on and we're hoping to keep it free and accessible to the community as long as we can.
Very exciting.
Well, I wish you luck.
It looks like you're going to have great weather.
Yes.
Do me a favor and tell our pal Abby Novak.
We don't even mind the cheat.
pass this off to you, but tell her it's great to meet you.
Thank you for your time.
Tell Abby we said hello and have a great festival.
I hope it's a big success.
I'm sure it will be.
Thank you so much and thanks for having me.
You're welcome.
Have a great night, Kim.
You too.
Okay, that's Kim Mothy.
Check out Myle of Music this weekend.
It starts tomorrow and goes through August 3rd and it's right here in northeast Wisconsin, folks.
Let's see what we're doing here, Conrad.
We're covering the entire state.
We are on statewide.
We had Matt Miller, Rep in Milwaukee,
talking movies.
We have Kim repping Northeast Wisconsin and Appleton talking music and now we are about to welcome, well in a few minutes anyway, our friend, our new friend Barry Levinson, the curator for the National Mustard Museum in Middleton, Wisconsin.
I bet you didn't know that's where the National Mustard Museum
was.
I would have never guessed
that
it's in Madison.
It's good.
I can't wait.
I'm actually excited to talk mustard.
But we have a few things to do before Barry gets here.
So we're going to catch up on some texts when we come back.
And soup question.
We're thinking about it.
Conrad hates soup.
We need a soup question tomorrow.
Any time you talk about soup, it just ulces me.
Go vomit during the break.
All right.
We're coming right back.
It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Welcome back.
We are talking with some really fun guests tonight.
Matt Miller, talk movies.
Kim Moth, he talked a mile of music and we're gonna have a great conversation about mustard coming up in just a few minutes folks at 735.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwab, great to have you with me.
We've got our question of the night is what is a fruit or vegetable you hated as a kid, but you like now?
I said avocado, Conrad said broccoli.
Conrad's mom, oh, I already read your mom's, right?
She likes mushrooms.
I used to hate mushrooms, but now.
Can't get enough of them
exactly
Dave on the stream said Conrad search the band that played Saturday at the Memorial Terrace That's what needs to be that's what needs to be Terry's bar band Okay, so I think we missed a text in there from Dave because I didn't know what he's referring to but that makes sense So we can now we can ask Terry about that look at Dave giving you stuff to do Conrad.
How do you feel about that?
I don't know Dave well, but I'm pretty sure you could take them
if he gets any more mouthy.
So,
Dave and Chris versus
you.
That's what we do here on Nightlight.
We line up fights for ourselves.
It's a lot of fun.
I don't know Dave well, but I like your chances against Dave more than mine against Chris.
Yeah,
I
don't know.
Chris might be able to take both of us at once.
You don't know, though.
What if Chris is
just a big sweetie and wants nothing to do with it?
I think he is.
Yeah, I think so, too.
I'll keep telling myself that.
So let's go to the text line.
We heard from Ali.
Where are my texts here?
I gotta catch up here.
Okay.
Tyler from Wisconsin Rapids says, in the movie The Exorcist, Linda Blair made pea soup look good.
I don't like canned peas and never will.
I don't like canned peas either, but, and I know he's being sarcastic, but that is absolutely terrible.
Did you ever see The Exorcist?
I don't watch any any horror movies.
It's just it's so horrible.
Oh, you know what?
I did watch over the weekend though.
The Paul
Rudd and Jenna Ortega movie to kill a unicorn or whatever it's called.
Oh,
yeah, how
is that?
It was so weird.
Yeah, it looked really
I didn't really I
didn't
really want to see it when I saw that, you know, it's like When they killed the unicorn Jenna touched the staff of the unicorn.
Okay,
and like she went into another dimension
What?
You got to watch it to see you know to see how crazy it is
Yeah, that doesn't really do it for me John Murray from the 608 he's in Madison says Pete dad made me sit until I ate them after an hour Oh, his was peas.
I think right.
I think yeah, John.
Yeah, okay Dad made me sit until I ate them after an hour me being stubborn He shoveled me a bite and I immediately vomited on his arm and laugh
He pulled an exorcist, John did.
That's terrible, John.
He says, can eat them now if I have to?
I assume without vomiting.
He says, isn't often.
Well, you're an adult now, John.
You don't have to do anything you don't want to do, especially when it comes to the edibles, edible foods, that is.
Conrad's dad checking in from Florida says, for the record, I love all kinds of soups.
He's totally throwing you under the bus, my friend.
He says, as a kid, I didn't like yams or sweet potatoes, but now love.
Yeah, I'm with you on that one too, Steve.
They are healthier than potatoes.
They are healthier and they taste good too.
I was scared of sweet potatoes as a kid.
You know, your dad and I probably need to pal around because we agree quite a bit on texts.
Yeah, yeah.
And I think it's that orange.
that
kind of scared me about
it.
I like sweet potatoes too now though.
But I like oranges, so I don't understand that.
But John says he was 10 when he vomited on his dad's arm.
So that's good.
Thank you, John, for those visuals and for being part of the show.
Jim from Brookfield says, hi, Pete and Conrad.
Never liked canned peas as a kid.
However, I liked cooked or frozen peas.
I like cooked or frozen peas now.
My wife also makes a pea mash.
That's very good.
That sounds...
Really unappetizing, I have to say.
I don't know if I'd like peas if they were mashed up.
I like them now, especially with mashed potatoes on Thanksgiving.
If they were mashed up, I don't know if I could do that.
Paul from Bayview, he's in the 414 says, radishes, hated as a kid, now slices on a salad, perfect.
Yeah, I'm with you, Paul.
I like radishes.
And those are something I learned to like as well.
A.J.
from the 608 says, Happy Wednesday, Pete and Conrad, I honestly still dislike all fruits and vegetables today that I did as a kid.
No evolution there for A.J.
She says, including bananas, green grapes, and eggplant.
I'll try them every now and again, and they're still nasty.
Wow, bananas.
You know, have you ever tried a deep-fried eggplant?
I don't
think so, and I'm not a huge fan of eggplant.
It's dynamite.
It's
dynamite.
Yeah, I'd be up for that.
A little crispy, something would help.
I don't like the consistency of it.
But great text.
Dave is not taking the bait for the fight.
Conor and Dave, we're gonna fight.
Dave has called it off more or less as he's a lover, not a fighter.
Now we can just talk over a bowl of
soup.
Well, he can.
Let's use his cheese broccoli.
All right, I think Dave has a great message there tonight.
Love, don't fight.
So I wanna talk, I'm excited to see The Naked Gun.
I might have to go see that.
I still haven't seen Friendship, speaking of comedies, the Paul Rudd film Friendship.
And I do wanna see The Naked Gun.
But I will say, and I talked about this with Lisa Hale today.
Check out New Wisco Weekend, folks.
If you haven't, it's on this weekend.
You have two opportunities to catch this great news magazine show that focuses here on Northeast Wisconsin.
Lisa does a great job.
I sent her, or she said, she saw something in my beats.
I think I did a pizza pick for Dexter, and she hit me back right away with a message.
She's like, please have me out to talk about Dexter.
I love Dexter.
I've watched the entire show multiple times.
Lisa might have some shallow graves in her backyard.
She might.
She's a blast though.
But check out Newisco weekend.
My pick this weekend will be Jaws, because it will be re-released.
And the theme is summertime, so I went with Jaws.
What did you, you got something?
I don't got
something this week.
No?
What
happened, man?
Just vacation stuff, you know.
Catching up with you.
Okay.
All right, when we come back, folks, we are, we've already talked music.
We've already talked movies.
It's time for Mustard.
That's a great slogan for the national muster.
I'm gonna run that by Barry when he joins us here.
After the news, that's coming up next.
It's Pete Schwab and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio
Network.
I forgot my great mustard quote.
I can't find it.
Is it, why not mustard?
Oh my God.
All right, welcome back to Nightlight, folks falling apart here.
After what's been an amazing show, I am Pete Schwab.
It is so great to have you with me on this Wednesday talking about all the things in life that we love.
We've covered movies, we've covered music.
We are about to jump into the third natural progression from
both of those subjects mustered.
The National Mustard Museum is here in Wisconsin, if you didn't know that, in the town of Middleton, and they have the largest collection of mustards in the world.
Joining me now to discuss this delicious condiment is the curator of all things Mustard Museum, Barry Levinson.
Hey, Barry.
Hey, Pete.
How are you?
Hey, Pete.
Good.
Just great.
This is so, I love finding guests like you because you have such a specialized interest and career.
It's just, and your museum is so cool.
I just kind of stumbled in there after having breakfast in Middleton last Saturday.
It's such a great place.
Let's start, how did you end up in the mustard game?
How do you
get to
be a museum curator, this really cool gig?
Okay, I used to be a lawyer, so don't hold that against me.
And in 1986, my beloved Red Sox lost the World Series to the Mets.
And I was I was just devastated.
So I was so depressed.
I couldn't sleep.
So I went to an all night supermarket just to cry away my tears.
Yeah.
And when I went down the condiment aisle, I heard this voice coming from the mustards.
If you collect us, they will come.
They have.
Oh, that's fantastic.
And first of all, my condolences, because I think everybody in 1986, I remember exactly where I was.
That was the
ball
that went through Bill Buckner's legs,
right?
Yeah.
That was game six, and then they lost game seven.
Exactly.
And I was in a bar called Hamilton's in Chicago.
And I remember because Bill Buckner jumped all over my cubs when a ball went through Leon Durham's legs in the 1984 playoffs, costing
the
game.
And that's who replaced Bill Buckner.
So I thought it was poetic justice, albeit very sad poetic justice, because you never wish that on anybody, but no, my retroactive condolences.
So
all right.
So
are you from Boston, Barry?
I'm from
Worcester.
Oh, yeah.
OK.
Very
nice.
So that's just 40 miles west of Boston.
Boston's a great comedy town.
I'm excited to, I'm even more excited to meet you now.
All right, so you're kind of kidding, but is there some truth to the Mustards talking to you?
Oh yeah, there's absolute truth to that because that's the night.
It was October 28th, 1986, that I started collecting Mustards.
No
kidding.
I did.
I did.
Now, I didn't quit right away, but I got another sign six months later.
I was arguing a case at the US Supreme Court, and I did it with a jar of mustard in my pocket because I had found a jar on a discarded room service tray.
You know, I didn't have time to look it up to research the issue.
So I think I did what every good lawyer would do.
I took it.
I just took it.
I have so many lawyers in my family, and I guarantee you they're going to hear this interview.
I love this.
All right, so that's kind of a cool thing, that maybe something Atticus Finch never could have said that he argued with a mustard in his pocket.
But even before you had this epiphany, I assume you were a fan of mustard as a condiment.
Yeah, I did I loved mustard in cream sauces Obviously on hot dogs and bratwurst Yeah, that because mustard goes well with just about everything
agreed and coming from I was the first part of my childhood was spent in Chicago where you do not even talk about putting ketchup on a hotdog It's all mustard.
No,
and you know mustard is locale if you eat it in its purest form I don't think it has any calories.
It's kind
of
healthy, right?
Yeah, it is very healthy.
So muster is definitely a good alternative to the K word.
Right.
So and also, did you know that according to the National Condiment Research Council catch up the annual report that came out about two weeks ago?
Catch up is now the leading cause of childhood stupidity in America.
Conrad, you need to do some research, please.
Take a memo.
Get the director of the National Ketchup Museum on our list.
We have to have him on the show.
So, all right, well, that's great stuff.
And I, you know what?
Listen, a lot of ketchup has high fructose corn syrup.
You might be right about that, for all I know.
But how do you go from Worcester to finding your spot in Middleton?
Madison is such a great town, a great area.
Did you end up there just to take that job?
No, I went to law school here in Wisconsin.
Oh, okay.
So, in fact, even though I no longer practice law, I teach food law at the University of Wisconsin Law School.
Oh, fantastic.
It's fun.
It's just fun.
I bet it is.
My guest is Barry Levinson.
He is the curator of the National Mustard Museum right here in Middleton, Wisconsin, and he is joining us over the stream here on Nightlight Tonight.
All right, I have to ask you, during the break, we were pretty excited to have you on because we haven't talked about really condiments in general on the show since I've been doing this for a year and a half.
Conrad said he was in Dork County recently and had a cherry honey mustard.
And I almost just put up a sign here and went to a replay to go taste that.
It sounded so good.
What is your favorite kind of mustard, Barry?
Well, I love Dijon Mustards good strong Dijon Mustards, but I like Brown Mustards, you know, I Like just about all Mustards, you know, there are 18 categories of mustard at the worldwide mustard competition And I love them all Do you eat
them daily?
Do you have mustard on just about everything or is it might just
go away?
No, okay.
I do I do.
Yeah every day
And we've got National Mustard Day coming up on Saturday.
I know August 2nd.
That's going to be a lot.
What do you guys do at the National Mustard Museum for National Mustard Day?
Well, we've got mustard ice cream.
Oh my gosh.
Oh yeah.
And it sold out the last three years.
So the same flavor is coming back and it's a raspberry honey mustard with little chips of chocolate in it.
That actually
sounds pretty good, I have to say.
It is really good.
Also, we've got Gorman Thomas.
Do you remember Gorman?
Sure.
Storm and Gorman.
Storm and Gorman.
And he's going to be here because he makes a sauce.
He won a silver medal at the World Wide Mustard Competition with his sauce.
So he's going to be here.
We've got mustard ice cream, of course.
We've got usingers, hot dogs from Milwaukee.
and also brought worse.
We've got live music all day, and we've got mustard games for kids of all ages.
You're trying to hook them young, aren't you, Barry?
Yeah, we are trying to hook them.
All right, on a day that's not National Mustard Day,
What can people expect?
How much time do they need to go to the Mustard Museum?
I'm sure that's an easy, you know, they can spend five minutes or two hours, but what's that experience like?
And what, you as curator, what are you hoping they walk away with?
Just a bigger love of mustard, tons of products.
What's that visit like?
Well, in the gift shop, which is separate from the nonprofit museum, but you can taste hundreds of mustards.
Probably about 80 different mustards at a given time.
And also, you're going to see the world's largest collection of mustards.
We have over 7,000 different mustards from all around the world.
That's incredible.
Have you ever been tempted to make your own?
Oh,
yeah, I've done it.
I've done it.
Is it
a hard process?
No.
No, it's not.
It's really not a hard process, although the skill of the mustard maker is really crucial.
So, I mean, there can be just ordinary mustards, but a really good mustard is really a thing to behold.
That's so interesting.
It immediately made me think of like a sommelier or just someone who's into wine.
Like, can someone like you
who's an aficionado about mustard, go back to just basic yellow mustard, or do you have to have more nuanced mustards for your palate or someone of your sophisticated knowledge of mustard?
Well, when I go to the ballpark, and I often do because I'm still a fan of baseball, but the first thing I have to do is get a hot dog with the yellow mustard, hold it up to the sky.
I just look at it, and it just brings me home.
That's so great.
You know, yellow mustard is not something I look down on.
In fact, French is a supporter of the nonprofit Mustard Museum.
No kidding.
Well, that's pretty cool.
And by the way, just to go on record here, your red socks and my cubs eventually
Redeem themselves in the big game since that eight horrible 86 in fact I think the Red Sox have won two or three right since then
yeah, I think they've won three and I'm also have to report to you that they Red Sox beat the twins today 13 to 1
Well
As long as we're on the topic of baseball, you mentioned Gorman-Thomas.
There's a great documentary called Just A Bit Outside, the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers.
I don't know if you've seen it, but they were such a
fun thing.
Yes, I have.
Yeah, we've
had the
filmmakers on quite a bit.
It's such a great documentary.
So all right, I'm glad you saw that.
Talk a little bit about your award winners that you have.
And what flavors are they?
Well, we've got honey mustard, sweet hot mustard, yellow mustard, we've got fruit mustard, herb mustard, exotic mustard, like we could have Dijon mustard flavored with truffles, for example, which is quite elegant.
And we've been holding the worldwide mustard competition every year since 1995.
And there are now 18 categories of mustard and the judges which are made up of food writers, chefs and mustard aficionados like me.
Although I don't judge them because I know too many of them just by tasting.
So, you know, that's a curse for me.
But, you know, this year's chef or grand prize winner was made in Finland.
Last year, it was made in Argentina.
So mustard is really universal.
It's making me want mustard right now.
This whole talk is just,
exceptional.
Thank you so much for your time.
Barry, I have to ask you, I ask a lot of the guests we have on the show.
We've got a minute or so left.
Sure.
What do you watch on TV?
Are you binge watching anything you could recommend?
I binge watching.
You know, I tune in occasionally to MSNBC, which is kind of my favorite station.
Sure.
I'm trying to think if I binge watch anything.
I don't really, because I'm kind of preoccupied with mustard, which is terrible.
I know that.
Oh, it's fantastic.
You got to make a documentary.
Thank you so much for your time tonight, Barry.
We did.
I heard from one of my co-workers, John Scott, this mustard guy.
Great guest.
And I totally agree with him.
Thank you so much for your time and have a great National Mustard Day.
Okay, and astala mustard.
All right, that's Barry Levinson.
No relation.
Check out the National Mustard Museum, folks, in Middleton, Wisconsin.
It is a treasure.
And have a safe National Mustard Day, whatever you do, folks.
We're coming back to wrap things up and maybe play something funny.
That's next on Nightlight with Peach Waba.
All
right.
Welcome back to Nightlight.
I'm Pete Schwab.
This is a fun show.
We talked movies, music, and mustard.
And we hit Milwaukee, Northeast Wisconsin, and Madison.
That is a show.
And I'm glad I was able to do that on a night when one of my superiors is here and he joins us now.
A superior at work, Aaron.
I'm not saying in every aspect of life, but you're a pretty good guy.
Aaron Corana joins me now here to help me wrap things up.
I mean, hey, I fill in
for you.
So I like to do you.
I do your salad favorite.
I've done it once.
I may do it again.
You should do.
You know, it's just, I'm looking at the question of the night, your least favorite vegetable that you like now.
Someone give me some clarity.
Is a squash.
Is that a vegetable or fruit?
I think it's a vegetable.
I know what avocado is considered a fruit.
What's AI
say about it?
Conrad.
It's it says it's classified as a fruit.
I typically treat it as a vegetable.
It says in culinary context.
Well, tomatoes are fruit.
It
has a seed, right?
It's a fruit.
I think that's the way it
goes.
Well, put it this way.
I still don't like it.
You're under no obligation to like any of this stuff.
But I kind of wanted you to come on the show and just as a voucher for me that I'm not crazy that someone that just doesn't like soup, it's just not normal.
I have no idea
what's wrong with this guy.
I was driving up here and I heard that.
I was like, now I'm coming in.
Now I want to get more clarity off air.
And right now, why?
Did you have a bad batch?
I think,
you know, I just don't like when stuff gets soggy inside the soup.
What's
soggy?
It's liquid.
I don't know.
I like my soups to be firm and hard.
Play-doh, like play-doh.
I just don't like, you know, it tastes like drinking like water with like, I don't know, seasonings and I don't know.
You
don't, you don't even like dipping like a baguette into the soup
and
then taking a big bite.
I'll do it in broccoli cheddar.
Oh, man.
So chicken noodle.
It's just a little bit of tomato bisque.
I don't like the fruit and chicken
noodle
soup.
The fruit.
No wonder you don't.
We got some work to do
on this
guy.
Well, you've been misled
about soup
gone around this entire time.
So, Aaron, this is cool.
This is a nice surprise to have you here.
You had a good vacation last week at
Red Rocks, right?
I was for a night and then my partner and I do like to, we do like solo trip once a year to clear the brain and just kind of relax.
So I went up to Calgary.
Really?
Yeah, it was
wonderful.
It's supposed to be beautiful.
It was gorgeous.
Yeah, especially this time of year probably.
I loved it because on Monday I woke up and I was getting ready to go to the airport and it says, United has canceled your flight.
I went, awesome.
I got another day here.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That's kind of been called the Wisconsin of Canada if I'm not mistaken.
Does that sound, I just made that up.
Believe it or not, it's not.
It's actually what the locals call, it's like your Texas is our Alberta.
Oh, really?
Yeah, it's got a lot of they got the stampede up there So there's like some cowboy culture and that type of thing the poutine is the same everywhere But yeah, I mean a lot of people walking around in hats and boots and they like the flames and more of a Canucks But that's all right,
but it's mountainous too, right?
It is yeah, bam.
Yeah, bam
Lake Louise, you know, they're about an hour and a half away I didn't end up doing that because I'm not like a hiker like a city guy, so but it was still fun.
I had a great time
That's fantastic.
Is it hard to come back to work if you've been gone that long?
Sometimes it's like, oh, like even when I took, I think I've only taken a couple days, although last summer I took like five days off and I was like, I got back and I'm like, how do I do this again?
Like it really does clear your brain.
It's kind of a good thing.
I did
feel pretty refreshed, but I was so tired yesterday.
Yeah.
You know, it's like, I'm just not good on planes sleeping.
I can't do it.
I can
have a
glass of wine.
I can watch.
How I met your mother for the 80th time, but I can't do anything else.
See, that's Conrad's favorite show.
He does have some redeeming qualities.
Is that really your favorite show?
My favorite show of all time.
So we have one thing.
That's something to build on.
Folks, this has been a fun night.
I've got two great guests tomorrow.
This is Civic Media All-Star.
And it's all-star show tomorrow, and it's kicked off here with Aaron's appearance, surprise appearance here at WGBW.
And tomorrow night, I've got Jimmy, Civic Media Sports Director.
We know him as Jimmy Koska, making the popcorn pick of the week.
Jimmy will give us a movie recommendation, which I'm sure will be fantastic, because he has great taste in movies, whether they're kids' movies he watches with his family or his own movies.
And then from Matt Naranair, Greg Bach will be here at 720 to talk some comedy in movies.
Greg also owns a comedy club.
Have you ever been there?
No, I haven't.
That's a
great show, by the way.
Yeah,
I think tomorrow night.
You gotta ask Jimmy about his collectibles.
Because I'm on Zoom calls with him.
I always ask him, did you move those things around since the last call?
What do you
got going on back there?
I love Jimmy comes on.
And the last time he was here, I think we were talking about the boys.
He was really into that show.
which I could kind of, I think it started strong, but I could have taken her left it by the end of it.
But Jimmy, he's very knowledgeable and Greg knows comedy, knows movies and does a great job with Jane.
So
it
should be a fun
show.
Great people.
We're very
fortunate to have him.
I totally agree.
And then Friday folks, we've got a Barbie on Friday night coming up and Spencer Young.
From Forever Young Designs.
Tell the fine people, our listeners,
If you can quickly and Aaron
what what Spencer does well?
Yeah, cool if you go down Lombardi Avenue during the season you'll see those Those fences that are painted.
Yeah, he he does some of those fences.
He paints them Not graffiti either.
He's hired to do the work.
Yeah, he's he's hired to do it It looks fantastic all the time.
He also does some other art like He does a lot of shoes for players stuff like that.
So it's really cool
Does he come up with a slogan or does he just slap the paint on?
Because either way, that's quite the amount of work.
Oh,
yeah.
To be that finite in there.
Definitely.
You know what I mean?
Especially painting cleats.
I mean, that's incredible.
Yeah, yeah, it takes, it's such a small surface to paint on, you know?
You know, I noticed you played the Kaelin Cole song before.
Yeah.
Kudos on the bumper.
I did ask you to do that, but next time we got to make sure we have enough.
That's such a great song.
It is.
We've got to find out.
You got to give me a sign and say, Schwabba, shut your trap a few seconds early
so we can hear more of
Kaelin Cole.
Aaron is great seeing you.
I will see you tomorrow morning.
Fun to have
you in town.
See you in the
morning.
I'll be listening tomorrow night.
I won't be here though.
Oh, well, hopefully we'll make your ride back a little better.
You got it, man.
Thanks, guys.
Thank you to Matt Miller.
Thank you to Kim Mothy and Barry Levinson at the National Mustard Museum.
Have a safe National Mustard Day, folks.
I can't stress that enough.
It's August 2.
We'll be back tomorrow night on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad.
Good night, Wisconsin.