Cigars and Barr Band Friday (Hour 2)

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay, this is Night Light with Pete Chihuahua.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy who believes in an eye for an eye, but only if they're lower case, Pete Chihuahua.

Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

Hey, great to have you on this Friday night, barreling towards the weekend here.

A beautiful, what looks to be a beautiful summer weekend.

Hope everybody had a great day because now, even if you didn't, let's make it a great day.

Let's sit back and talk about movies and TV.

Tonight we're talking about cigars.

We got a great question about fortune cookies.

It's Terry Barr night here at Nightlight.

It's a bar band Friday night.

Terry will be here.

She is our Wisconsin music expert.

and kind of does just about everything here at Civic Media, including contribute to new WISCO weekend and hosts Maxync Radio on WMDX.

You can check out those podcasts.

She will be here at 7.35.

Always fun to talk to Terry.

And I have to, I'm just glad to be here in one piece.

When you drive on 41 every day, folks, you don't know what's going to happen.

So here's a funny thing.

First of all, let me introduce.

Producer Conrad, how you doing buddy?

I'm good.

I want to hear the story glossed right over.

Sorry.

I want to hear the story.

All right, you will so about I think it was last Thursday or Monday.

I can't remember There was garbage all over highway 41 coming

down.

Yeah, I'm not surprised

obviously somebody just didn't do something So I wrote it down on the sheet to talk about it because I was kind of disgusted by it.

Well tonight

Driving, I actually saw a truck where nothing was secured in the back and garbage is flying out of the truck.

And people are trying to avoid it.

Like it was nothing huge.

It's obviously something that would fly out of a truck from wind is not that heavy or could do serious damage.

But man, was it annoying.

I'm like, get your crap together.

You know, honestly, that that could be a hazard because what a bag of chips or something that has nothing in it, it could fly right into your windshield.

Might be something what if it was what if you're in a convertible and it's actual chips What if you get sun chips?

Right

at

you

get some residue in your hair

Yeah, we've all eaten a Dorito to where it's like cut our mouth or a part of a pretzel bun that cuts your lip I Just I was just kind of like I nothing drives me more crazy than people who are irresponsible like that like we're driving cars They're weapons basically get your crap together

Make sure your trailers connected properly cover your garbage don't have conversations driving down the highway Going the same speed so people can't pass you and I saw that was a couple weeks ago two people talking to each other.

Oh, that's good.

Yeah So that was pretty frustrating, but

speaking of driving.

Yeah

the other day I was in that parking garage, you know, and they're doing some construction in there You know, I don't know when you're

leaving.

Yeah, you see that.

Yes.

There was a spare sign that was out there

And it had a no right turn.

And when you're going out, you know, you have to take that right turn to go down to

the... Yeah.

You have to turn right.

I

stopped there for five minutes.

I was like, wait, can I?

In the parking garage?

Yeah.

There's

nothing.

There's nothing after that right turn that would have stopped me.

But I was just like, wait, can I not turn right?

That

is funny.

I came back later that day and it was gone.

The sign.

Somebody took it.

Yeah.

I was like, okay.

So they just, that's not a place where a sign should be.

Right.

Somebody was probably messing with you or just messing with

people.

Yeah, it was I Was there for five minutes and I was wondering like can I turn right here?

No, and eventually I just went

you know what I would have been thinking That's time to look great in my house In the rec room Yeah, I don't know what is going on over there.

It's really crowded over there tonight, but I you know here's this irritated me And I think I've talked about this on the show before but this happened about

Six months ago.

There's nobody in the garage.

And I parked, I kind of pulled into the spot and left myself room to just leave so I didn't have to back out.

My new pet peeve is backing out.

And I got a ticket.

You can't take shortcuts.

Obviously now, it's like $35, $40 ticket and I had three days to pay it and it went up because I didn't, I thought I had at least a week.

No, that's a quick turnaround.

It's ridiculous.

And I,

did corner a guy and I asked him if he was the one who gave me this ticket and he said no and I said you know I did and I was just annoyed I'm like you guys are supposed to serve the public not rake us over the coals

yeah

I was hurting no one just tell me I can't park like that but there was nobody in the garage and if you told me I wouldn't do it again because I don't want a ticket so stupid

I'm I'm learning about there that you can get a ticket for that in a garage

It surprised me and they don't even know if you've paid, you know like because usually you have to pay for to

get in there

So I'm already paying on top of that

We pay good harder civic media pays.

It's good money to let us park there Anyway, all right moving on.

It's the weekend.

We can't be down folks.

We got to be up We got a lot going on.

There's some movies open in this weekend.

There's some the baseballs back, right?

Yes today, you know your brewers the last thing they probably wanted was an all-star break

You know, they gotta face the Dodgers tonight.

In LA?

Yeah, in LA.

Okay.

Wow, that's good.

All right, so there's a lot going on.

And we got a great show tonight.

Hopefully we can help you ease into your weekend with some good stuff.

And my guest tonight, folks, this is gonna be fun.

We've talked about cigars a couple times on the show.

One of our sponsors, Appleton Cigar, Norm Kepesky, great guy.

Norm's been on the show a handful of times and we'll have him back on again soon.

Always fun to talk to Norm about cigars, movies, how to smoke a cigar, the right approach, what to buy.

Well, we got more cigar talk tonight.

A gentleman named Henry James, he is one of the owners of 12 tribe cigars will be on the show and he works with Norm.

So there's no conflict of interest here, Conrad.

Don't get nervous.

Norm's not gonna come in guns a blazing.

Henry James is a pal of Norm Kapesky's they work together and he's gonna come in for some more cigar talk because I think this is great and I'm not just looking for a free cigar I want to talk a little bit of movies with Henry and About his process and we don't I don't think we've gotten into this before with Norm like how the cigars are made I think that could be kind of cool.

So we'll talk to Henry at 635.

He's gonna be in studio

That's always exciting.

And then it is a Barbie on Friday night.

As I mentioned, Terry Barber will be here at 7.35 bringing us new music and fantastic conversation as always.

We didn't get to talk to Terry last week.

We were off.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that'll be fun.

And I, I cannot get enough of this kiss cam thing.

I think you mentioned it kind of in passing and I hadn't really seen it yet.

And I was like, Oh, okay.

This is, there was an episode of Modern Family where Phil Dunfee was at the, uh, a Laker game with Gloria, Jay's wife, who Sophia Varga is character.

And he didn't want to kiss her.

And I think while he was on camera, his wife called him and saw him on the TV, put the thing to voids mail.

That's hilarious.

It was a great episode.

Anyway, this is like that episode personified.

These two people probably thought,

It's Coldplay.

Let's go be together.

What are the... Okay, and first of all, there are victims in this.

I guess they're both married.

It's not a good thing.

I don't get into people's personal lives.

Whatever they got going, I don't know.

I don't care.

But I do think, wouldn't you feel like God has it in for you?

You take your girlfriend to a concert, and you end up on the damn kiss cam.

Yeah, you know, I saw another angle of it today.

It's Chris Martin,

he's copping a feel

Chris Martin is like it's on a stage.

Yeah looking out to the he looks up and he goes oh look at these two

He asked him like are you a couple are you cuz I think he said after the guy ducked down?

He said he asked him a question, but supposedly Chris Martin is like kind of mortified He is weird thing you

know released a statement on it.

I think

yeah

It's so funny that she's HR.

I guess that's okay now.

That's just, it's so funny.

It's like, yeah, I think God has it out for

her.

Comedy is other people's tragedy, and this poor bastard, this guy and this woman, and again, I don't know anything about them, maybe they're nice people, maybe they're spouses or nice people, maybe they're horrible people.

I don't know, but man, is it newsworthy?

And it was their reaction, like if they had just,

stayed put, or he could've, if he was smart.

This is why I like to think like a criminal.

He has his arms around her.

Instead of ducking like he's 12 years old, he could've just kinda leaned into the back of her head and like given her a little nuzzle or something.

Or turned her head so nobody saw her.

I don't know.

I'm armchair quarterbacking here, but.

I don't think you was getting out of that one.

No.

You don't think, but do you think if people.

If they didn't react the way they did, do you think people would have just sent, oh, there's a couple and nobody ever would have seen it?

Probably, I don't know.

He

did duck like a 12

year old.

Yeah, he did.

He kind of turned into a spaz, you know.

It was so funny how quick he saw it and he's like,

oh, I know.

Well done, buddy.

All right, it is time for our night light question of the night.

Let's talk about

the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

All right, it is National Fortune Cookie Day.

Pick your fortune.

It's more of a statement, but we'll go with it.

What's your fortune?

What do you want your fortune to be?

It is National Fortune Cookie Day.

Pick your fortune, ladies and gentlemen.

see your future, be your future.

Let us know what your answer is.

Conrad, you said something on social media.

I did.

I'll let you share that.

You know, usually fortune, they kind of rhyme sometimes or whatever, but I just won.

I said free golf for life.

It's a good one.

That's all

I want.

But how does that work?

Like if they, if you open it and you pull the paper out, the fortune as it is called, you will get free golf for life.

How do you manifest?

Then you're just

waiting for it to actually happen, you know?

Something's gonna happen.

You don't know when you're gonna get struck by a golf ball at a golf

course

And they're like all right you threaten

to do

and they're like you know what you can golf here for free for your whole life You could just make that

up to and do that you don't need you could walk in with the paper go see this buddy.

What do you think about that?

And then they'll just let you go tee off

Yeah, or I'll say I got a hole in one in every part three there and they won't know you know,

how would they?

There's no kiss cams on the golf course

I'm just gonna go, I'm gonna go very basic.

Maybe this will come across as lazy, but you will win the lottery.

I want to win a billion.

I want to be in the billionaire boys club.

I want a billion dollars and I don't want to work for it.

What do you think about that?

I want to sit back, win the lottery and tell the rest of the world to take a hike.

That's, I mean, originally I typed in to the social media, I said a million bucks.

A million

bucks doesn't get you anything nowadays.

You gotta go big.

I think I'd like a million bucks.

Listen, I'll take a million bucks, but I want a billion.

If I want a billion bucks, I'll give you a thousand.

Thanks, that's very nice of you.

You pay rent for me

for

a month.

Not even.

No, I do.

I want to win the lottery, and I still do this show.

I'd still write screenplays and stuff like that and try to do projects, but man.

You do remotes from like exquisite places.

Yeah.

I'm in Bali today.

For nightlight.

How's it going there in Wisconsin?

Yesterday, I was in Dubai.

Yeah.

So that's the question, folks.

It's more of a statement, but you can make it a question.

National Fortune Cookie Day.

Pick your fortune.

What do you want it to be?

What do you want to pull that paper out and have it say?

I love this song.

It makes me think of Mike Schmidt now.

So that's what we're talking about tonight.

Two great guests.

We're talking cigars at 635.

Terry Barr will be here for a bar band Friday night at 735.

God, I got it.

I got it.

This is where I need to tease Conrad.

What do I tease right now?

When we come back.

We're going to read your texts.

Yeah, but I don't even know if we got any texts yet.

It's early.

We'll do it all.

It's mid-summer, folks.

We're going to talk about mid-summer.

How do we feel?

It's Peach Waba in Nightlight on the Civic Media radio

network.

You started out with nothing and you're proud of yourself and man

I'm Peach Wada.

We are rockin' a Friday night here, trying to help you guys get into the weekend.

A segue, if you will.

Maybe you had a rough day.

I don't know.

Let's have a few laughs and talk movies and TV.

I think that's the way to get to the weekend.

We've got, you know what was really sad last night?

I was driving home two nights ago, actually, and I pulled off, I was starving.

So I pulled over to get a sandwich at Subway in O'Connell.

There's an old supper club that looked like

in its heyday, it must have been incredible.

Cars in the parking lot, you know, it had a cool look to the building, and now it's a church.

Hmm.

I mean, aren't there enough vacant churches out there that you can get an actual, I can't imagine, if I'm a pastor and I have a flock, so to speak, that I would want to do that.

Do you think it's church with stakes?

Maybe they serve old fashions, yeah.

Give you some cheese curds when you walk in.

Bless be the Lord.

Here you go, buddy.

Here's some garlic bread.

That would be great.

Here's some rolls and warm butter.

That would be great.

Might get me back to church.

But I don't know.

It was just kind of sad.

It's just an observation I made.

I wanted to take a picture of it.

Maybe I'll join the church.

If they have steak, sign me up.

You think so?

Instead of communion, a wafer, you get like a little cut of a prime rib or something like that.

New York strip.

That'd be pretty sweet.

All right, folks, our question of the night is, it's not really a question.

We veered a little bit tonight.

It's National Fortune Cookie Day.

When you open up the cookie, what is your fortune?

That's the question.

Let me know, 855-752-4842-855-75 civic, or you can text us on the app.

Very easy to use, and just a, it's a great app.

We crush it.

I'm getting text, Conrad.

I have to turn my phone down.

Or you can text us on the stream if you're watching on YouTube, Facebook, or X. Either way, we'd love to hear from you and we will read your text on the radio.

We have a call.

Yes, we do.

Ollie from the Northwoods.

Ollie from the Northwoods.

I was getting worried.

How are you, Ollie?

Oh, I'm good.

First off, I have to say, if the church was a Lutheran place, it would be perfect place for to get hot dished.

That's right.

It

would.

My fortune cookie story is I actually have had two fortune cookies that have come true.

The first one said that you will soon be traveling over big waters and probably about a week or so later a friend of mine called and wanted

He had promised his grandmother before she passed away that he would take me to Ireland.

So he said, was I ready to go to Ireland?

So we did go to Ireland and had a wonderful time.

And then my next fortune cookie was that you will soon move to a new home.

And I did home health in the cities, live in home health for years.

And the new home I went to was a wonderful gentleman who I stayed with for six years.

And that was probably one of the best times of my life.

Ollie, if I were you, I would eat more fortune cookies.

They're very good to you.

Eat more Chinese

food.

So keep eating those cookies and keep reading those fortunes.

Absolutely.

Hey, thank you for the call, Ollie.

Great to hear from you.

All

right.

Bye-bye.

On the stream, Peter says, Peter from Green Bay here, the fortune cookies.

I thought were funny was man who farts in church sits on his own pew.

That's an actual fortune.

I've never heard that before.

He says man going through airport turnstiles sideways is going to Bangkok.

I've never heard either one of those.

I think those are just all jokes, Peter, or those really, I mean, that's hilarious.

But they spelled it wrong.

Thank you, Peter, for the text.

That's great.

Going to the text line here, Melissa from Willy Street in Madison.

She's in the 608.

Hi, Pete.

I wish my fortune would read, world peace will come in your lifetime.

Oh, boy, I don't know.

I hope so, Melissa.

I hope so for all of our sake.

But I think you're safe on Willy Street, at least.

There will be no ground wars.

I hope I'm Madison's East Side anytime soon.

Thank you for the text, Melissa.

Great to hear from you.

Tyler from Wisconsin Rapids says, free Chinese food delivered to me anytime and anywhere for life.

Tyler's thinking like you, Conrad.

Yeah,

that's a good one.

You guys ought to go out and have a round of golf, pal around, come back and have some Chinese food.

Have some crab or grooms.

Have some crab or grooms, absolutely.

That's great.

John from Madison, 608 says, congratulations, you will.

Outlive all of your loved ones and no one in your circle will die before DJ T He is he is of the age and questionable health where it all makes sense Not just being mean to a dear leader Yeah, that's still a good run John.

I get what you're saying.

I mean, that's not really even political Donald Trump is on is on in years or you call him DJ T I'm not on those kind of terms with him, but

That's great stuff.

Keep those texts coming.

It is National Fortune Cookie Day.

What is your fortune?

What are you reading on that little paper which is called the fortune?

I looked this up last night.

I really wanted to know if that had like kind of a cool name, but they just called the fortune.

So what is your fortune?

Share it with us.

We'll have some fun.

It is a Barbie on Friday night.

Terry Bar is here at 7.35.

Henry from 12 Tribe Cigars will be here very shortly.

I am excited to talk cigars.

When's the last time you smoked a cigar, Conrad?

It's been a while.

Yeah?

How long?

Since my last time Norm was here.

Since my friend's wedding actually, last summer actually.

Okay.

Was that too bad?

Yeah, we had celebratory cigars after.

I love a good cigar.

Uh, we also, we were talking about the Kiss Cam.

You guys can weigh in with those too.

Anything we're talking about obviously is fair game.

If you want to text in or call in about the Kiss Cam couple, if you have an opinion, phone lines are open, baby.

Let it, let us know.

And let's uh, boy, this is packed down here tonight.

Oh yeah.

To our people walking by.

I'm so distracted.

I might have to shut this curtain.

Would that be weird?

Well, you don't have the sun in your face today, so.

That's true.

I freckle anyway.

Alright, we're coming right back for some psychartalk.

This is Pete Schwabba at Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Welcome back.

I'm Pete Chihuahua.

This is Night Light.

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Nightlight Conrad Krieger working the board.

We've got, do we get a text overnight Conrad?

I did not check.

Believe it that we did not.

Okay.

Good.

Not good, but I just didn't want to forget it.

So all right.

It is Bar Band Friday Night.

Terry Barr is here at 735.

She is our Wisconsin music expert.

She always brings great tunes and fun conversation that's coming up at 735.

Right now, it is my pleasure to welcome to Nightlight for the first time.

This is exciting.

I was excited.

Before these guys got here, but I'm even more excited now after talking before we went on because we are about to get an education on cigars It's my pleasure to welcome tonight light the one of the owners one of the owners There's two of you guys.

Okay, both of you guys are the owners.

Oh the two owners of 12 tribe cigars are here Henry Scott and Herschel tell me your last name again Winters Winters Herschel Winters, okay, so

Henry Scott, Herschel Winters, the owners of 12 tribe cigars.

Let's, let me see here.

How do we get into this?

Tell me a little bit about you guys individually.

What are your backgrounds and then what brought you to the cigar game?

Well, my background goes, I served in the military.

Okay.

And I started smoking cigars when I was 20 years old, went in the military.

I was an armor officer, 12 CAV.

which is armored cavalry.

And one of the things we used to do when we were out in the field is smoke cigars and smoke pipes.

Because when you're out there for 45 days, you got to do something and you're out in the field and you can get tobacco.

So that's what I was doing was smoking cigars and smoking pipes.

Love it.

What about you, Herschel?

Well, myself from Chicago, Chicago native, been here for 18 years.

Cigars to me, it's like a way of life.

Looking back on your past, your present, and your future.

And it's relaxing and very

social.

And just have a passion for it.

And it's just a relaxation.

What you want to do is like to vent and to think back.

To

chill, right?

Yeah.

Definitely.

So when did you start

smoking cigars?

I want to say it's been like 14 years now.

Okay.

Yeah.

Nice.

Well, 20 and I'm 64.

So that tells you how long I've been smoking.

You guys both have awesome cigar smoking kind of voices.

I don't know if it has anything to do with cigar smoking.

We're just sexy that way.

So all right.

So tell me about 12 tribe cigars.

How did this start?

And tell us about the company.

Okay, the way this started was an Appleton cigar shop.

I was sitting at the table in the front and my brother was up there with me.

It's my brother, Herschel.

And I said, Hey, Herschel, I'm thinking about starting our own cigar brand.

Would you like to be a part of?

And he said, What did you say?

I said, Are you kidding?

Let's do it.

Let's do it.

And so we started.

talking with Rich, who is the owner of Puracotta brand cigars.

And I was telling him, hey, man, I'm thinking about coming out with my own brand.

And can you help us come out with it?

And Rich was like, sure, I can help you guys because there's enough room in the tobacco industry to where we can help each other and get your brand out.

And so once we made our mind up that.

We were going to come out with a cigar, but we didn't have a name for it.

We started reaching out to the same plant where Puracotta comes from.

And so they started sending us test blends of different types of cigars.

And I was like, no, no.

My brother tried it now.

This wasn't right.

And then when we came up with the one which is our flagship, flagship cigar.

Herschel and Rich liked it, but I didn't like it.

And I said, you know what, two against one, we'll

go with

it.

And who knew that that cigar would take off the way it did?

Now, just to give you a little insight about what you're getting when you get a 12-tribe cigar is that it's made out of three tobaccos.

The outer leaf is a San Andreas wrapper.

And the filler is Dominican and Nicaraguan tobacco combined.

And with that combination, you get several different notes.

You get chocolatey notes, nutty notes, molasses, semi-sweet, peppery, and spicy, but it's not overbearing.

And we have guys that come in, Appleton Cigar Shot, that won't smoke anything that's a dark leaf.

But soon as our cigar came out,

and we started giving out samples.

Some of the guys that said they wouldn't do it actually enjoyed 12-tribe cigars.

So, all right, so for those of us who are novices, I smoke the occasional cigar, I've been to a cigar lounge maybe five times in my life, and it's a great experience.

If people are listening and have not been to a cigar lounge, check out Appleton Cigar, Norm Kepesky, we've talked about it on the show before.

Everybody's welcome, you have great conversation about

you know, sports, music, the arts, whatever.

It is an experience.

I'll tell you guys this, the first time a friend of mine, I was living in California at the time, he said, let's go smoke a cigar.

I was like, all right, where?

And he's like, meet me at, there's a place in Encino.

So I met him there.

I'm like, what do we, we just sit here and smoke?

He goes, yeah.

And then you sit there and it's like, it's like fishing kind of or something or playing cards.

Like you just start BSing with everybody.

It is an experience.

And what I didn't know is you can catch a buzz.

And I sat there for three hours.

I got my car to go home and pull over into a strip mall and get some food because I was like seriously buzzed from taking in the smoke all afternoon.

But it's a great experience, just the cigar lounge experience.

But tell me Herschel or Henry about.

three tobaccos.

Is that atypical or do most cigars only have one?

How does that work?

Some cigars have two different types.

Some cigars have one.

And basically it's the outer wrapper and the filler.

But sometimes you run across those like 12 tribes that has three different types of tobacco, meaning the outer cover, which is San Andreas.

and the filler being Nicaraguan and Dominican.

And with that combination, it gives you certain notes.

And you can try another cigar with the Ecuadorian wrapper with Nicaraguan and Dominican Republic tobacco.

And you won't end up with the same notes as the one with the San Andreas with the Nicaraguan and Dominican Republic tobacco.

When you guys first came in here, I thought it was funny because you said stick a couple times Tell me where does the name 12 tribes come from

well initially I wanted to go with H H and H for Hank Herschel and Humberto and Use the lion standing up

you know, with his paws out.

And so what happened was that name was already taken and the logo was already taken by the exact same company that was H H and H. So working with Rich, again, the owner of Purikata, he said, hey, you know, you always talk about religion and you always talking about the 12 tribes of Israel.

Why don't you go with the 12 tribes?

That's what you ought to call your cigar brand.

I'm like, you know what?

You make a lot of sense because 12 tribes actually comes from the Bible,

the

children of Israel.

And when you look at the 12 tribes logo, you'll see the name 12 tribes.

And then you will see the symbol as a cool logo of a lion, which is this.

which is the symbol of Judah.

And contrary to popular belief, your Israelites are the black race.

And your Negro race in America are from the tribe of Judah.

And if you read in the Bible, it says that Judah was cast to the four corners of the earth.

So I'm a descendant of Judah.

And one of the things that I wanted to do was show respect.

and homage to my ancestors.

And that's why I went with 12 tribes and went with the symbol of

Judah.

Oh, wow.

I was not expecting that much background.

That's great.

So that's how that goes.

I think our cigars mentioned in the Bible.

Did Moses have a cigar when he parted the Red Sea?

Wasn't he chomping on a stogie?

I wouldn't hear, but he probably

was.

Let's just say yes, because we can do whatever.

All right.

I have to give a shout out, too, because you guys were, I found you guys through JB Thompson, who I call the guy behind the guy, Conrad.

Behind

the guy he's that he's that far behind but he's introduced me to a lot of people including Norm Kampaski from apples and cigars So shout out to JB JB Texted on the stream and he says reach for your dreams start with the spring rolls fortunes always positive How about a negative but your spouse is seeing a divorce attorney or geez you better have that male That mole looked at I thought he was going for the kiss cam there with that one.

Yeah, and then JB says Hank looking sharp man

Thank you for watching on the stream, JB.

And thank you for introducing me to these, these two brothers.

How is that work?

How is that working together as brothers?

Do you guys get along or is it was their sibling rivalry or?

No, it might be a couple of times we might disagree, but the thing is we're brothers.

What brothers don't fight in Oregon.

And I can't catch him.

He's too fast.

That's right.

Why would you have to?

Why would you have to run after him?

You taking all the cigars for himself?

No, but him and I got a common goal.

It's to get our brand out and the comments that we've been hearing have been positive and the sales speak for themselves.

That's fantastic.

You

got a cigar and you sell out and then you got customers coming in saying, hey, I want 12 tribes.

or when we go to work at Appleton, we're being told that, hey, you had people come in today looking for 12-tribe cigars, but we're sold out.

So the cigar speaks for itself.

Good problem to have.

My guests are Henry Scott and Herschel Winters.

They are brothers who co-founded 12-tribe cigars.

And let's go there.

Where do you, okay, you want to create a cigar, you want your own brand?

Where do you start?

How do you do that as an entrepreneur?

You have connections to tobacco, I assume, or brokers.

How does that work?

The one thing that I have experienced in my life is that when you get right with God and you have a dream, he will put people in place, the open doors, put people in place to help you get through those doors, and he will put people in place to help you to get where

you're trying to go.

Sometimes it's not easy, but most of the time, the people are there.

And so like when I said earlier, when we were coming up with the ideal of coming up with our own cigar, Rich was one of the ones that got it put in place for both of us.

And that's what helped us to get our brand out and get the right cigar.

That's cool.

I want to elaborate on that.

We gotta do a very short break.

Great to have you with us, folks, tonight.

Herschel Winters and Henry Scott are here.

They are the founders of 12 Tribe Cigars.

They can't even keep it on the shelf.

So if you have a question about cigars, you're welcome to text that in on the text line or this dream.

Either way, let us know.

But we will be right back with more with these two cigar aficionados.

This is Pete Schwabba in Night Light.

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Welcome back.

This

is Beach

Wava and Night Lights.

Great to have you with me on this Friday night.

We are making new friends tonight by way of our regular friends JB Thompson and Norm Kepesky Joining me now on the show is Henry Scott and Herschel Winters They are brothers who founded 12 tribe cigars and it's a new company.

They can't even keep the cigars on the shelves Which I think is really cool Let me ask you guys this you obviously both of you talked about your affinity for cigars Is an expensive hobby

No, I Well, let's put it this way When I Get a cigar and I can sit down Relax and I'm smoking a good cigar I'm not a bourbon drinker.

I'm a scotch drinker.

Nice.

Well, I drink scotch and smoke a cigar I'm able to relax on wine Sit back have conversations with

A lot of people I probably would never have met before in my life at Appleton Cigar Shop.

I know judges, lawyers, cops, people in the military coming here, people from all different walks of life, from different parts of the country.

And one thing about you sitting there smoking cigar, it brings two different worlds together to where you can just sit

have a good time, relax.

You don't have your wife calling you, come home, you know, because she knows you're in a safe place and you ain't out there chasing anything, you just relax.

Right.

And so if a cigar costs $18, $12 or $24 and you get that kind of relaxation and you get the opportunity just to unwind because we're all in a fast pace.

business, hurry to get the work, hurry to do this, hurry to do everything else.

But when you're with that cigar, you're unwinding.

And that's one of the things we have to learn how to do is to take time for ourselves

and

relax.

I don't know about you guys, but I feel like we're in a hurry sometimes, even when we don't have anywhere to be.

I know people that

drive fast, walk fast, do everything like there's some kind of rush and there's not.

They work from home, they're not married, whatever.

It's like, where, what is your rush?

So I think the fact that you can do that with a cigar is great, but I think people should do it either way.

It was funny when Norm was here, he told us, I think that he likes a cigar in the morning with a cup of coffee, which I was not.

Anticipate like I liked it like you with a glass of scotch or whiskey, but I don't really drink anymore But I guess people do it differently.

What about you Herschel?

What do you when do you smoke?

usually

Afternoon Because it seems like you know, I got to get that good wind going and yeah, you know and all the You know the organs sit and sit ready for ready at all and yeah

Usually around noon time, ready to roll.

When do you guys think most people smoke cigars?

Is it an after meal thing?

Is it like you just said kind of any point during the day where you just need to chill out or like norm in the morning?

Well, I'm

kind of in the same camp with norm because normally I'll smoke a dark full flavored cigar in the morning with a cup of coffee.

Really?

Yeah.

Now, how much is that cigar?

This one is $20 and 90 cent and it's a Julius Caesar cigar This one This one was given to me from somebody that went to Cuba and brought back a Cuban

So that's a Cuban.

This is a

kid.

Are those legal in America right now?

You cannot buy

them.

Can you possess them?

Yeah So if I tried to make a citizen's arrest right now, nothing would happen in case you can try

Conrad, back me up.

So you said 18 bucks.

Is that typically the kind of cigar you smoke, like an $18 cigar?

And how long does that last you?

That cigar I just showed you can last an hour.

Wow.

Just sitting there smoking it, drinking your coffee, or sitting there smoking a cigar, drinking whiskey or whatever, and you're intrigued in conversation can take about an hour.

So what would be you're probably gonna laugh at this but like I know there are people and I watch movies I see like Clint Eastwood smoking like a those old Backwood smokes or swisher sweets and I was just watching the brushing up on a movie called the straight story because I'm gonna interview the writer on Monday and that guy he had swisher sweets in his pocket like Will those make you sick like compared to this which is like the Cadillac of cigars

down to the cheap stuff you can buy in a 7-Eleven, what is the difference there?

I don't do Swisher's Sweets.

I assume you don't, Henry.

But I mean, what if you had to smoke one right now?

Would you get sick?

Or would you be disgusted?

If I lit it up, I might take a couple of puffs and then just lay it down.

Because my palate has changed.

Not saying anything negative about Swisher's Sweets,

but

it's not.

a part of my palate.

Okay.

What about you, Herschel?

Well, number one rule, never inhale.

Right.

Do people inhale those?

Oh,

really?

Especially if they don't know what they're doing.

Oh my God, that's horrible.

Yeah,

that's when we're at the shop and we always ask them, hey, this is your first time or you have any experience in smoking?

He's like, yeah.

And then once we get them all prepped up at the cut station,

And we take their word for it saying, you know, they never had any issues and they go to smoke and inhale it and they cough up along.

That's some funny stuff.

Like we told you don't inhale.

But the act like they know what they're doing.

Yes.

Oh, that's embarrassing.

That's what would happen to me.

All right.

Can you guys stick around after the news for a few minutes?

All right.

We're going to keep our guests, Henry Scott and Herschel Winter.

They are the founders of 12 Tribe Cigars, and they're going to stick around for part of another segment.

We'll do the news or intermission as we like to call it here at Night Light.

Great to have these guys here.

It is a Barbie on Friday night, folks.

Terry Barr is coming by at 7.35 by way of the stream to introduce us to a great new artist.

And we'll do that at 7.35.

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What do you want it to say?

That's tonight's question.

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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

Two night light with peach wabba.

I am peach wabba Conrad Krieger is working the board lovable producer Conrad We're having some fun here on a Friday night kind of a chill show.

We've got it's a bar man Friday night Terry Bar will be here at 735 We talked about the kiss cam couple and how that might shake out And we just kind of agreed that I think I think if the guy had not Like dove out of the way He's holding the girl his mistress if he just kind of

put his head into the back of her hair, he could have hid a lot less conspicuously.

Rather

than looking guilty.

But I don't know, I'm just, it's not like I'm dispensing advice about how to do that.

I'm not going there.

I'm just saying it's an unfortunate situation.

Our question of the night is, it's National Fortune Cookie Day.

So what does your fortune say?

What do you want it to say?

When you open the cookie and you take out the fortune, pick your fortune, folks.

That's what we're asking listeners to do tonight.

Right now, in studio, I've got Hank.

I've been corrected.

I asked, you didn't say anything.

You weren't offended that I called you your actual name, Henry.

But Hank Scott is here along with Herschel Winter.

They are brothers, and they founded 12 Tribe Cigars.

So we're talking about that with them.

We've got a few more minutes with them here in studio.

They were nice enough to drive up from Appleton and or Fond du Lac.

How was traffic on the way up?

Not too bad around here.

Yes.

Did you both smoke a cigar while you drove up?

I

did.

Sweet.

Does your car smell like cigars?

Oh,

always air them out.

Does it work?

Yeah, it actually does.

Is there a way to smoke a cigar where, like, I go home and my wife does not say you were smoking a cigar?

Like, where's the best place just outside to not bring that smell with you or this?

I actually like the smell, but...

Not everybody does.

So where do you go?

You smoke out on the porch or something or what?

No way at all.

It's just gonna just marinate on you even though you're blowing it away.

There's no way out of that.

You love that, don't you?

Yeah.

Your voice especially, you should do voiceovers for cigars.

Pete, everyone tells me, man.

Everyone tells me.

I think I'm gonna jump on that.

Conrad.

Let's do a tag these guys and Herschel can read it.

That'll be our before you guys leave Don't let me forget to do that.

Okay, so we're talking about 12 tribe cigars We we found out how you guys got into the business you both work at Appleton cigar.

We were introduced by JB Thompson I love that's my new word is sticks.

I've never heard cigars called sticks, so I'm gonna totally steal that How do you make a cigar you guys created a cigar

Do you have an idea in your head or do you just, how do you instruct the tobacco guy to get what you want?

Well, you have a combination of different types of cigars that you like.

And I was like, I want something like a Maduro, but I don't want it as strong as a Maduro.

Even though 12 tries is classified as a Maduro, it doesn't have the bite like a Maduro.

Okay, that's a

very Maduro is real strong.

Yeah, it's a little stronger than 12 tribes.

All

right

And with 12 tribes, it's very smooth from the light up to the end

When you say smooth for people that don't smoke cigars, what does that mean?

Does that mean you don't like let's what can you compare it to like a glass of whiskey you take a sip you get the burn?

Yeah, what is doesn't have this doesn't have that bite that you

taste in your mouth.

Some cigars you light up will have a bite to it.

Yeah.

12 tribes does it.

Nice.

How did you get there?

Do you just keep toying around with the mixture of tobaccos till

you get there?

It took us probably six months sampling different cigars until we got to the right blend of what we were looking for.

And then on top of that, we had, again, rich.

who is a mentor to us to help guide us in the right direction with selecting the right cigar.

We've got Peter on the stream says, I don't know if I could smoke a cigar for an hour.

Can a good cigar be put aside and relit later or is it or is it just done?

That's

a great question, Peter.

Thank you.

No, Peter.

The way that works is if you smoke a cigar and let's say

The cigar is six inches and you only smoke two inches of the cigar.

The best thing to do is to cut the end off to where all the burn is out of it.

Put it in a plastic bag with a Bolveta pack and zip it, close or put it in a humidor by itself.

So when you get ready to smoke it again, what you're going to have to do is degas it.

degas the cigar because the tobacco is breaking down.

So what's going to happen is you're going to have a gas build up inside the cigar.

And

the best way to degas the cigar is to take the cigar with a lighter, suck in slowly and blow out slowly with the flame in front of the cigar and then move the flame away from the cigar.

And as long as that flame is coming out the end of the cigar, it is drawing the gases from inside the cigar out.

And you may have to do that two or three times until you get all the gases out of it.

And then when you start smoking it, it'll be like it was when you first lit it up.

Boy, that's,

I hope, you know, go to the podcast and you can listen to that again.

I've never heard that.

That's really like,

inside baseball stuff.

So what happens if you don't degas it and you just start smoking it again?

It's gonna be tart.

It's gonna have a bite to it.

So it's just a taste thing.

It's not a...

Yeah, okay.

It's gonna be a better way of saying it, real peppery.

Hmm, interesting.

And it's not gonna taste like it did when you first lit it up.

Okay.

So Hank, you're having a tasting.

There's a tasting room in Madison.

But you don't have the cigar like you can't you guys can't keep your cigars on the shelves So that's a great sign.

When is that happening?

Do you have to get the cigars first obviously

or what I want to do is get the cigars and go back and talk to Adam the manager at The tasting room because what happened was I came up there one day to meet him and I missed him

And I talked to the guy behind the counter and said, hey, do you mind if I hand out some free cigars?

And the guy says, sure.

I said,

I'm not selling them.

I'm just handing out samples because I just want to get my brand out there.

And he says, sure.

So I gave out like 12 or 13 cigars that day.

And I came back two weeks later with my wife.

And I said, hey, I'm here to see the manager.

And so the guy behind the counter went and back, got the manager, and he came up and he said, hey, my name's Adam.

I said, my name's Hank Scott.

And he said, yeah, I know you.

Because my regular customers have called and asked me, when am I going to get 12 tribes in here?

And he said, that's a good thing.

And so we got the talk, and he said, I want to do an event this summer with you here to answer questions about your cigar.

And so as soon as I get the cigars in, I'm headed right back to the

tasting.

What's it tasting like?

Is that like wine?

Do you just take a couple puffs?

Do you smoke a small cigar?

What is that?

The tasting?

Yeah, like how does that, how do you sample the cigar?

Oh,

the way that people sample cigars, they're either gonna know whether they like it or not within the first two or three puffs.

Okay.

At Appleton Cigar Shop, I've had a Warren officer come in.

He was from Virginia.

It was a Warren officer, William Washington, Jr.

And he came in.

I introduced him to 12 tribes.

He sat down, lit a cigar, took two puffs off of it, got up, walked over there to me where my brother was.

Hey, man, how do I get a box of these?

I'm like, well, you can buy him from here.

We sell him

here at Appleton Cigar Shop.

And he said, I want a box.

We have regulars that come near.

And one of the regulars, Greg, he actually got a cigar of 12 tribes, took a couple of puffs of it, came up and said, I really love this cigar.

And I want a box.

I said, sure.

We sell it here.

So that's how we much as

a box if you get a whole box of them

at Appleton cigar shop It's around three hundred something dollars.

Okay, and how many stars you end up getting 20

cigars 20 cigar.

Oh, it's a pretty good deal then better than All right, so let's get this is what I've been excited to ask you guys What what do you like to watch on TV when you're smoking one of your own cigars or any cigar for that matter?

Me I like watching action flicks matter of fact I watched head of state Smoking a cigar

Did you like the movie?

Oh, it was

it was comical

In a good way.

Yeah

in a good way.

All right.

Yeah, I enjoyed I Haven't seen that Conrad saw it.

I was saying yesterday.

I'm kind of done with action comedies I don't feel like they're ever that funny and the action is never like you don't really ever feel like anybody's in peril

I like Idris Alba a lot, loved him on the wire.

John Cena, I could take her leave.

He's kind of, I think, peaked.

But John Cena

was the comical

relief.

And he's a funny guy, but Conrad said he's kind of like with you.

What about you, Herschel?

What do you like to watch when you smoke a cigar?

Oh, wow.

What I do, pull the TV out on the rooftop, play some video games, fire their baby up.

Wow.

Got a nice brick square ice cube.

Throw some basal Hayden brandia bourbon.

I should say in there.

There you go.

Just roll

What do you guys do?

What is your favorite activity to do when you're smoking a cigar that maybe it's not TV?

Is it just talking to other people or are you watching sports?

Are you sitting outside?

What do you what do you what your favorite activity to do while you're smoking?

Me I like watching movies, but okay, sometimes it's interesting just to sit there smoke a cigar

With some of the guys that come in and watch baseball.

Yeah,

I got this one guy His name's Tom this dude is smart when it comes to sports.

I call him my big brother and so I Just sit there watch sports, you know baseball football if I got any questions I ask him about it and he knows

just about everything.

We both just sitting there smoking cigars.

You mentioned, uh, we got about a minute or so left.

You mentioned 12 tribes, bourbon infused.

And I told

you during the break, I love bourbon infused anything, burgers, onions, bacon, whatever.

Uh, is that, is that your favorite cigar to smoke or the best one you guys offer?

Would you say?

Well, give you the history of how that came in the bean.

I spent the night over at Herschel's house, because it was too late to drive.

Well, actually,

I

had too much to drink that

night.

Herschel

was like, you're not driving, man.

You go upstairs and go to bed.

So I said, hey, my phone's dead.

I need you to text my wife and let her know I'm staying with you tonight.

So he texted her, let her know, so she wouldn't be worried.

So when I got up the next day,

I opened up his humidor, his refrigerated humidor, and I saw 12 tries, so I grabbed it.