Scray Hill (Hour 2)

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Scray Hill (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Wed Jul 16, 2025

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And now a guy who loves the sin but hates the sinner, T. Chihuahua.

Pete Schwaba

Welcome back tonight, ladies and gentlemen.

It is time for Act 2 of this evening's broadcast.

Great to have you with me.

Working the board is the kid, Conrad Krieger.

How you doing, buddy?

I'm doing great.

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Have you had a mood swing since the first hour?

You still

think you can get through this?

You know, I'm thinking I can get through it, yeah.

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All right.

I think you can too.

It's gonna be okay.

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No doubt in my mind.

We are having a lot of fun here tonight, folks.

We talked to Mike Clemens in hour number one.

He gave us an update on the Brewers.

They are red hot, only a game behind the Cubs, and Conrad and I talked a little bit about what, I mean, it'll be tough for them to keep that pace.

They

can do it.

I mean,

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winning 80% of their games in the last 10, you can't sustain that.

But I would love a 101 season.

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Is this still possible?

Oh,

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yeah.

Okay.

Maybe.

That could happen.

I haven't done the math.

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No, we'll do the math.

Get the slide rule out and we'll go to town

on

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that.

We also talked about, it's Will Ferrell's birthday.

So our question of the night is what is your favorite Will Ferrell movie or role?

We've had a few varying, I don't know, some dramatic actually, some comedy.

I said old school, Conrad said the other guys.

But if you do want to text folks, we have pre-recorded content starting in about 13 minutes.

And that's our interview with Frank Hermans of Let Me Be Frank Productions.

He has a new show opening down the street here in downtown Green Bay at the Meyer Theater, the beautiful Meyer Theater.

So Frank, we're gonna play, we sat down with Frank yesterday.

He played a song.

We had some laughs.

He tried to get fresh.

I had to repel him.

Conrad had to step in.

It was awkward, but we got through it.

And that is what you do in radio, ladies and gentlemen.

Frank's interview will be played at 7.20 tonight.

So if you do want to respond to tonight's question of the night, try to get it in in the next five minutes or so, so we can read it before we jet.

We also talked about this.

I am so done with action comedies.

Give me a comedy or give me an action film where I feel like there's something, something's in peril or something.

I'm tired of the action comedy.

The comedy sucks and the action's not really that thrilling.

So that's something we covered also in hour one, as well as our discussion with the, uh, the outstanding Mike Clements.

So that's a show.

We've got a few more minutes here.

And I want to say, you know, I just realized, I don't think it's very noticeable.

I spilled toothpaste on my shirt the last time I wore it.

Well, it's if it landed on the blue spot that kind of looks like toothpaste.

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It's on the light blue spot if you're watching on the stream I don't think it's visible, but why do I still feel like a slob?

Like I'm practicing hygiene.

I'm brushing my teeth Which I forgot to do today by the

way

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nice We had a kind of a night a meeting before the show with Aaron Kareno and I was the whole meeting I'm going oh my god I didn't brush my teeth today of all the days you needed to share a computer with me

So anyway, but I had and I still feel like a slob.

It's not like I have tomato sauce or a piece of cheese on my shirt.

It's toothpaste I'm a hygienic But I still feel like a slob.

I don't get it It's weird.

I think that's I think that's a personal thing because like you're fine.

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Yeah,

it's just toothpaste

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My

shower.

And you washed it, so it's gone.

I

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did wash it, but I think that little stain is here with me.

It's on the light blue part of the shirt though, so I think I'm good.

Hey, tomorrow night, folks, we have a great show too.

Paul Vandenplatz from Wonderfully Wisconsin will be here in studio, right Conrad?

For the popcorn pick.

For

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the popcorn pick of the week.

Paul will be live.

We had him on the show a few months ago.

He's a great guest and he has an outstanding Facebook page called Wonderfully Wisconsin and TikTok.

Give him a follow there because he does great stuff.

If you like food and you like Wisconsin and who doesn't.

You definitely want to give Paul a follow at Wonderfully Wisconsin.

He'll be here tomorrow night.

And then we have from the Thrasher Opera House tomorrow night, Jason Mansmith will be here talking about some of the really cool shows they have coming up.

And Jason's a great guest.

He's been on the show before.

So that's tomorrow night on Nightlight.

I really want to play this clip.

Let's finish our tech.

Let's get these texts out of the way, because I don't want anybody to be left out here tonight.

Our question, as I mentioned, what is your favorite movie or role of Will Ferrell's?

And we've got some great responses.

There is one, I think, behind.

There we go.

Tom from Minona, he's in the 608, says, Ricky Bobby, that was a funny movie.

Yeah, my favorite is, I can't think of his name, but the guy who plays Borat.

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It's been so

long.

The French, I think is French race car driver.

He's hilarious in that.

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I like Will Ferrell, but he's not a guy other than old school that I watch his movies over and over.

So I've seen, um,

Tell the Daganites.

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Tell the Daganites, but I don't, I do remember the scene where he's racing and the guy's catching up to him and he's right behind you in his, in his ear.

And Will Ferrell's like,

Right behind me in my subconscious.

No, he's really right behind you.

Step on it.

You know, like, it's just such a weird scene.

And it was so funny.

And what's the one where Will Ferrell is running for office?

The campaign.

And Zach, yes.

Such a good movie.

And he leaves that filthy

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voicemail on Zach Galifianakis'.

Yep.

Oh, my God.

And the way Will Ferrell talks, and that is so funny.

So he's got some roles, I like.

But I said old school.

Conrad said the other guys Bridget from the 818 says elf.

This was tough I loved stepbrothers old school and blades of glory.

Oh my god.

I forgot about blades of glory

Yeah, I haven't seen that in a while was such a funny

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movie.

She says but I love elf I love the scene where he flips John hater upside down and they're like in the 69 position skating around the ice.

It's so funny that

really cracked me up.

I have a story about Elf that I thought was funny and it's sort of a six degrees of separation.

My buddy Dale Myron, God rest his soul, he shot The Godfather of Green Bay, did an outstanding job.

He owned a post production suite with his buddy Dan.

Dan Lieberman, I think was his name.

And Lieberman is still a great editor and was editing Elf.

And Will Ferrell's people came into the editing suite and were yelling at him and saying that this role was gonna ruin Will Ferrell's career.

And you know, Dan's Leventhal was his name.

Dan is just the editor.

He's not like, he didn't write the script, whatever, but he has to listen to this.

And as it turns out, I think it took Will Ferrell to another level.

Yeah, that's a replay on every single Christmas, you know?

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It's like a lot of people's favorite film.

Chris from Sun Prairie,

He is in the 773.

Remember Khan?

Yeah.

He spells his name like you.

He's got the K.

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I like it.

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I like it too.

Chris has my favorite part.

Will Ferrell plays his big Earl in Starsky and Hutch.

Hilarious.

That's the other great thing about Will Ferrell.

When you've got a very mediocre movie or even a clunker, you can at least get some good Will Ferrell laughs out of it.

Great text.

Thanks, Chris.

Teresa from Madison.

She's in the 608.

It's a stranger than fiction.

That's either, that might be our...

front-runner tonight.

I think that one is multiple,

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yeah.

Yeah, and then Mark from Prairie to Sex is also a stranger from

fishing.

Definitely in the running,

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then.

All right, with a thumbs up.

Thank you, Mark.

Thank

you, Teresa.

You know, we also got another comment on our Facebook.

Yeah.

Monica Hale says Buddy the Elf.

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Buddy the Elf.

All right, there you go.

And Chris gave me the thumbs up, because I got it right this time.

Yes.

It took a while, Chris, but we know you.

We know you, buddy.

Thank you.

So I want to play this.

Let's do this.

Since it's Will Ferrell's birthday, let's

Let's play the old-school clip.

So

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here's one of my favorite scenes from old school one of my favorite roles of

welfare

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That's so that's all we have in that clip.

Yeah.

Oh, I thought you had where he I thought we cut where he chugs He goes just one and then he chugs he goes fill it up again.

No Turns into Frank

least

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Frank

so

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gorgeous.

I want to play a couple other clips, too I thought this was hilarious Norm McDonald has been showing up in my feet a lot on social media and

I never met Norm when I did stand-up.

I didn't do stand-up for that long, maybe nine years, but our paths never crossed.

But I have so many friends who I truly respect, who absolutely think the world of him.

And I've rediscovered his stand-up, and he's so funny.

And I found this clip on Conan, and I want to play it for you now.

This is Norm McDonald before he passed away, obviously, on Conan.

A wife went into a coma.

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Oh, sorry to hear that.

And the doctor said to me,

And you won't hear this from any 1935 comic.

He says to me, there's one way to wake her up, but it's a little unconventional.

You go in there and you have oral sex with her.

I said, bye, God.

He says, I've seen it work.

I said, well, I'm willing to try.

So I go in there.

I'm in there about five minutes and I come out.

I said, Doc, she's choking.

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I really wasn't sure we could play that, but you're right.

There were no bad words in it.

It just creates kind of a funny picture.

Yeah.

It's heartwarming.

All right.

So that's Norm McDonald.

And I have to find another clip from Norm McDonald.

McDonald is when he's on comedians and cars getting coffee with Jerry Seinfeld.

And they're talking about Cosby.

And if you Google it, folks, it's Norm McDonald at his best.

And Jerry Seinfeld just absolutely cracking up at him.

But I have one more clip I want to play.

I've been sitting in this.

Honestly, Conn, I can't even remember why I clipped this.

It was in relation to a birthday that day or some kind of Simpsons milestone.

But either way, it works.

Those of you who watch The Simpsons will know that this guy, he's the guy that runs the comic book store.

He's grossly overweight.

very sort of facetious about a lot of the stuff he says.

He mistreats the kids in the committee, very sarcastic to the kids.

And he goes into, well, let's just,

I'll let the clips be for itself.

No, I do not have a receipt.

I want it as a door prize at the Star Trek convention, although I find their choice of prize highly illogical, as the average trekker has no use for a medium-sized belt.

Oh, oh, a fat, sarcastic Star Trek fan.

You must be a devil with the ladies.

Hey, I... Oh, gee, I hate to let you down, Casanova, but no receipt, no return.

I'll give you four bucks for it.

Very well.

I must hurry back to my comic book store, right?

Dispense the insults rather than absorb them.

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Another great Simpson side character.

That's another question.

Simpson's favorite Simpson side character.

Milhouse.

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Who?

Milhouse.

Milhouse is

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great.

But I like Moe too.

And I like Skinner.

Now they're all great.

Jimbo Jones.

What did I say earlier?

It should be a question of the night when we were talking.

Oh, your least favorite

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actor.

Least favorite

actor.

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Yeah, because Tony the trucker did not like Will Ferrell.

So this is kind of a cool thing.

The Emmy Awards, the nominations dropped yesterday.

They were in my Hollywood beats.

If you listen to Civic Media throughout the day, I talked about who was nominated for what.

Harrison Ford, it's his first, and we talked about Harrison Ford yesterday.

It was celebrating his birthday.

Our question was, what's your favorite Harrison Ford movie?

He got his first Emmy nod at 83.

You know what to make of that?

I mean,

I feel like he should have got Other ones, but

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he would have if he had done television the guys a movie star He has made more great movies almost than anybody So people are kind of making a big deal about this how it's his first Emmy nomination Yeah, because he's been getting Oscar nominations and Golden Globe nominations and critics choice and all this other stuff in movies Has he

has he done?

Now I'm just thinking about has he done other TV shows I bet he has yeah,

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not

probably early in his career.

I mean, the guy was making huge bank at the box office.

Also, I want to say, Kathy Bates, oldest nominee ever in the best actress category for an Emmy for, you know, Matlock.

So she's 77.

Harrison Ford's 83.

The old folks getting it done.

That's kind of cool.

All right, we got to do a very short break here, folks.

Then we will play our interview that I did yesterday with the very funny, the one and only, the legendary

Frank Hermann's that's coming up next and we will see you tomorrow night then this is peach wabba in nightlight on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad I'm not gonna close the show yet because it's not over.

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The whole way it was brutal.

It was brutal.

It took, it would take over 15 minutes to get to Marinette.

I can make it to Marinette.

We're gonna be 45 minutes.

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Yeah, that's about, I

don't, I

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probably don't drive quite that fast.

I'm doing

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67.

It's Nightlight with Pete Schwabba, by the

way.

Welcome back.

Oh, sorry.

I thought we'd just

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continue

our

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conversation.

No, that's all right.

I like it.

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I

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kind of like that, but I, I, I should identify myself and these people are flipping around.

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Who is that

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guy?

Frank Herman's

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is

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here, ladies and gentlemen,

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the legendary.

Legendary.

Frank Hermans of Let Me Be Frank Productions and some of the stuff we were just talking about off the air, unfortunately, I can't share because it was great stuff.

It was gold.

Don't

you wish you could do that?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, you should like a podcast.

Podcast you can't.

Yeah, you can't.

And I have friends that

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come on here that I just stand up with.

They're my lifelong comedy buddies.

And like a couple of times they've dropped an F-bomb.

Sure.

And they're like, oh, this isn't a podcast.

Is it?

I'm like, no, it's live radio.

So

they've been pretty good.

Are you done five second delay here or no?

Yeah, we do now.

You can do it.

Okay.

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For more or less.

Conrad pulled a hand.

I promise I won't drop one.

I

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promise.

But it is a bet that drive is much better.

And you

perform

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in Marinette.

You've taken your whole operation up there at the Bayshore Theater on the Bay, which went over.

I told you, I gave my parents Christmas.

We're

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back there again.

In February?

January.

Yeah.

January 31st.

We're doing the tribute show up there again.

Please tell me it's a Saturday.

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It's a Saturday.

I'm in.

Yeah, baby.

Conrad, you're road tripping up,

hanging out

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with Let Me Be Frank.

That

will be

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really fun, because last time I had my...

local, my charity fundraiser thing I do every

year.

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They were on the same night, but it'll

be fun.

But you said mom and dad, and they didn't go to your charity function, but they came to buy

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function.

They don't go to watch my filth.

They don't want anything to do with my, no, I'm kidding.

No, yeah, that just worked out great.

It was a great Christmas gift, because we saw, at the Meyer, we saw your Christmas

show, which I

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absolutely just loved.

That was a really, that night, I think I told you, Frank, kicked off, my son had just came home, my daughter was just home from Steven's point, and the four of us went,

And it started off our holiday season on the

absolute

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greatest note.

The seats are great.

The show was outstanding.

We went and had dinner at Nagasaki, I think, or something.

What a fun show.

Well, thank you.

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Yeah.

You're invited every year.

The Christmas show this year, I'm already thinking about it.

It's kind of a suzical type thing where it's kind of the Dr. Seuss thing.

It's the who's versus the what's.

Love it.

And the grunch may show up.

Nice.

So don't get

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sued.

Has anyone ever?

Yes, I've gotten so many C's to the cysts over the years.

You just say okay.

Yeah.

You don't want to fight that.

It's a one-time $50,000 fine, especially

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with

music.

Yeah, if you use a grand rights song, yeah.

That is the voice of Frank Herman.

Yes.

I paid many legal bills to find out these things.

Don't come after him, folks.

He's a very law-abiding citizen.

I'm a parody guy, man.

It's like SNL.

SNL gets sued all the time.

I got sued a few times, but, you know, it is what it is.

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All these places do that kind of

stuff.

It seems like you can, you should be able to get away with that, but either way.

Well, you still gotta pay your fees.

Something cool on Metta.

Get this.

So I put a song up.

It's called Rock and Roll Waltz.

done back in 1960, okay?

And I shared it and then it goes, uh, Metta is going to share your revenue with the, with the artists that wrote this song.

I'm like, cool.

I didn't even know I was, because I, I get paid.

You

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know, for Meta,

for so many views.

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I'm

like, yes, that's the way it should be.

The artist that wrote that song is still collecting royalties on this.

That song's over 60 years old and they're still getting royalties.

Sweet.

That's fantastic.

I'm like, no, I just clicked no problem.

I'm no pirate.

Continue, continue.

Yes, play that video.

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Let's talk, okay, we can talk more about what you have coming up in the fall and

you're gonna

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summer and all that, but let's talk about your new show.

I found my, uh, found my thrill on Scraze Hill.

So you're not from this area?

I'm not.

So tell me what Scraze Hill is.

Scraze Hill is right outside of East Appear.

It's a hill.

Back in the day, the sprays owned it.

Hilly Haven was up there as a ski hill, but it was a place that was farm fields.

The Niagara escarpment, which is a cool word, created that hill from the glaciers.

Kind of it's the tallest point in Brown County.

And it was a place that was secluded and you could go up there and park.

There was lots of little places to park your car.

And this is where the place that the boys and girls from the high schools around the area and colleges would bring the drive up there in the cars and they would park.

That's where I was made.

And they would neck.

They would neck.

As they say, I was happy to

call it.

They used to say that we're necking.

And they built all the TV towers are up there.

That's where they put the first TV tower for WBAY back in 1955.

In fact, I got a picture of it.

And that's kind of the thing, Scraze Hill, and there was one road up there, Dickinson Road.

Now, it is full of multi-million dollar mansions, and it's the who's who.

of this area owns houses up there, so I make fun of that.

And I play Professor Scray, and my family owns that hill, and

I want to keep it beautiful.

I don't want the lifestyle of the rich and the famous being brought up there.

Not like what happened to Allaway.

So what?

I love that.

So what's the music in this one?

It's all from

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the

59, 60, 61.

Oh, nice.

So it's that cool stuff.

I'm

sorry, sorry, oh, sorry.

Uh-oh.

It's like that kind of stuff.

All

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right.

Found my thrill on Skrace

Hill, music from

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the 60s, and it starts right around the corner.

Yeah, it starts this Friday.

I'm sorry, Thursday.

Gosh, man, I forget.

Like, two days, Thursday.

Oh, my God.

Two nights.

Thursday is a fundraiser for New Cap, which is a great organization in Northeastern Wisconsin that builds homes.

$10 of every ticket goes to New Cap.

Great night to come if you want to support your community and support us.

And then we run for four weeks all the way through August 10th.

All

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right, folks, if you have not seen Let Me Be Frank production, and I know a lot of you listening are in Madison, Milwaukee, and Claire, wherever.

They can still come up.

It is worth a road trip to the beautiful, stunning Meyer Theater.

Frank puts up, like, what, four shows a year?

Five shows

a year.

80 dates a

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year.

It's worth a trip to Green Bay.

You can do some packer stuff.

You can go to the Meyer.

It is an absolute treasure here in Green Bay, as is Frank.

He is here.

He's going to perform when we come back.

We'll talk more about his new show, Found My Thrill on Scraze Hill.

And you have another show coming up in September.

We'll talk about that, too.

We're

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coming right back.

It's Nightlight with Peach Waba.

You got the Civic Media Radio

Network.

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And that is

the voice of Frank Herman.

Do you like Paul Simon?

I love Paul.

So awesome.

Fantastic guitar plays.

It's sad that he's going deaf though, man.

He can barely hear anymore.

He has a special setup when he plays now.

Yeah, it's sad.

That's weird.

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I have headphones.

And remember in the 70s and 80s, 90s, whatever, you put headphones on, man.

You could ruin your hearing

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in

one night.

It

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felt amazing.

Now, when I'm at the gym or taking a walk and I feel great and I try to crank it, nope.

You can't sue him, man.

You can't sue him.

I mean, did headphone companies get sued, really?

Remember that one where the blasting with the speaker, you know, like the guy's hair was going back

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like that.

Is it boss or Ross?

I can't remember.

But yeah, there's a little bone in your ear that you can break.

From sound.

From sound, yeah.

Your honor, I'm a dumbass.

I'm a musician, so I got a little bit of that rock ear going on.

Is your hearing bad?

It's not bad.

It's just directional sometimes, where I can't hear where a sound is coming from, because especially in a crowded place.

So that's from listening to monitors my whole life.

playing too loud, stupid.

Right.

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No, I'm with you.

Overall, I'm with

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you.

Frank Hermans from Let Me Be Frank Productions is here.

We're talking about his new show, which opens July 17th, found my thrill on Scraze Hill.

So tell us a little bit about the plot.

We know

the music is from

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the 60s, but what's the plot,

Frank?

Well, the whole thing is it was the place to go parking back in the 60s, but I wanted to make it a little bit more inclusive of the whole Depeer community.

So I play Professor Frank Scraze and my...

family owns Scraze Hill.

But I teach at St.

Norbert College.

And I teach a class called Sociology 101-ish.

And I have diverse characters in the show.

Kind of the stereotypical cheerleader, the stereotypical Norbertine, the person becoming a priest, which is no longer a...

a core curriculum.

And then I have a theater major, who's very dramatic, which is another non-core curriculum anymore at St.

Norbert College.

So we'll make a little fun of that.

Have a lot of fun with that one.

Yep.

And then we got the football player.

And then I got the person on scholarship, academic scholarship, who plays sports.

And she plays center for the St.

Norbert, a girl's basketball team.

And she's four foot 11.

So they didn't

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cancel that program.

They didn't cancel that program.

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Yeah.

So.

Oh, that's so fun.

All right.

So tickets are available at TicketStar, Resh Center, Box Office.

Go there.

Call me.

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Myertheatre.org.

I know a guy.

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Just

run

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by Frank's

house.

My son is also on the show.

My 14-year-old son, who is a phenomenal.

In fact, he was going to come the night we couldn't do the show.

He can sing like a bird.

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Wait, he was here last time.

He was here last time.

14-year-old Harrison Hermans.

He plays my son.

He's the gifted kid who

He graduated high school at 13.

He's kind of that know-it-all kid.

And he

spies on all these guys who are parking on Scraze Hill so he can learn the ropes.

of necking, of necking, and other procedures.

I could probably use a brush up myself.

There you go.

What move are you going to use again?

Don't mind me.

So he's like mine.

And I get angry with him for being a peeping Tom.

He can go to jail for that.

But

he

goes, then I can call their parents and I use blackmail.

I go, good, good, good job, son.

I use

blackmail in my job all the time.

I don't know why I have an English accent.

I always think of professors.

I'm that classic.

college professor who has the goatee, has the hair slick back, and I am very knowledgeable of things.

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You do the accents really well, though, but let me ask you this.

When

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your family, your wife, Amy, who is brilliantly talented, I told you, we talked about this before the interview, somebody posted a clip of her on Facebook singing a song for Mamma Mia.

on breathtaking.

Or no, it was

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from ABBA.

Yeah, it was from ABBA.

The winner takes it all, right?

And it was called... Is that in Mamma Mia?

But it was called... What was the show called?

I can't remember.

What's the bowling alley?

The winner needs a shawl?

No.

What was the bowling alley that got closed down in Menominee?

Oh, Sheridan Lane.

Sheridan Lane.

It was called Sheridan

Lane.

Because the last name in Menominee at Mamma... Menominee.

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It's hard.

Menominee.

By the way, we did that talk.

In Mamma Mia, in the movie, is Sheridan.

Oh, I love it.

I mean, that's so cool.

Get it.

Shared in Lames.

We tied

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everything.

Nobody got that.

It was more

for me.

I'd

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love to include my little town of Marinette in your shenanigans, too.

That's really fun.

All right, so it sounds like a great show.

Do you want to perform something from it?

Or

something that will get people moved?

Well, I'm going to do a 60 song.

The monkeys were really huge back then.

Oh, yeah.

Nice.

Back there.

And there was a song that Mike Nessmith wrote.

And it was his only top 40 song.

After the monkeys and Mike Nessmith was a country guy He he he performed a lot and basically was a multi-millionaire because his mom invented whiteout So he really did know that yeah, and he didn't really need to do he started MTV did you know that?

Mike Nessmith.

Mike Nessmith.

He was

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confused with Tom Scholes from Boston, who I think created the Polaroid one step.

He went to MIT.

He

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did.

But you're right, it was Mike Nessmith, whose mom created White

Out.

White Out.

So he had all

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that White Out money.

He had all that White Out money.

So he started a production company, and then he had his band that he would perform with all over the country.

And he only had one top 40 hit.

He had some great music.

And I learned this song.

It's one of my wife's favorite songs.

So I learned it.

And it's

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kind

of catchy.

So it's not in the show.

but I think it should be.

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But of that era,

more or less.

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What do you need from me?

Do you want me to do it now or do you want me to do it next segment?

It's up to you.

Well, next segment, we'll close the show.

Okay, let me grab my guitar.

You talk.

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You could do it though, right when we come back from the break.

How long is it?

Like four minutes?

No,

it's two minutes and 35 seconds.

Oh yeah, let's do

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that though.

We'll do it.

Should we do that?

We'll do that in the last segment.

What do

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you think, Con?

Is that

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good?

We need the, okay.

Go ahead, we got a voucher.

We

got a voucher in there.

Thumbs up.

All

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right, so what is it like, Frank, working?

you love your family obviously you got a lot of kids are all crazy talented as is your wife Amy is it hard to direct them

you know what I got it's funny you bring that up today because I interviewed on my frankly Green Bay TV show Carol Rakovich who it was my wife's mentor in high school and directed her in plays and she directed her daughter and son in many plays I find them a little bit more harder

I hate to say this because my son is very talented, but I want him to come across a specific way.

And I don't have to deal with the drama.

Believe it or not, actors and actresses, comedians, they're hard to tell them what to do.

Okay, and if they're doing something a certain way and you want it, you have to coddle them.

I don't have to do that with my son.

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I go,

listen, face the crowd when you're talking.

Dad, why are you talking to me that way?

Because you're not listening to me, son.

Enunciate.

Talk slower.

And what about Amy?

You guys are

married.

Is she hard to direct?

No, she directs me.

Oh, there you go.

She's, OK, how do I say this?

When it comes to music, she knows everything, OK?

More than you.

Oh

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my god, yes, I'm a hack.

I'm a hack.

I'm a hack.

And she can sing any harmony.

I mean, she just can pull off a seventh, a ninth, whatever, when she wants to.

And I suck at harmony.

So she's got to plunk out my parts, right?

Yeah.

I don't normally, you know, I can do the Beatles.

I can sing the love, love me do and all that, the seventh, the harmony, the upper.

But when I got to learn a hard part, she goes, what is wrong with you?

Oh my god, that's a funny

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story.

That's

really cool.

She usually gives vocal notes and she's very, very good with everybody.

Giving them, hey, we need aahs, and when you do your aah, we need to go, oh, not aah, because it goes flat,

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stuff

like that stupid stuff.

But when we get in the car, we're at home, learn, she's so funny.

Can you learn your song?

That'd be great.

Can you, just as part, you know, it's

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wrong.

Do you

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ever just sit, do you ever stand up there and say, you know what, honey, I got a lot of my plate.

I pay the bills.

I thought we were getting the music to go to a break.

That's pretty cool.

So what are you?

By the way, I'm gonna tell you when you had Harrison here before the Christmas show.

Oh, he's saying

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he sang Dear Prudence.

That's

right.

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It was just fantastic.

I thought I saw him at the Meyer when we went to see your Christmas show.

And I go, Harrison!

This kid looks at me like, I'm like.

He's not, remember, he was on my show two weeks ago and he goes, he goes, my name's not here.

Your

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son has

an evil twin.

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He

has an evil twin out there, okay.

And this

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guy

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was

giving me

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nothing.

I'm like, oh, I'm really sorry.

I'm like, he's like this old guy thinks he knows me or something.

My kids are like doing

one of these, you know, it was terrible.

Hey, hey, that happens, that happens, you know.

And he would have been, he actually wanted to do your show because he thought it was a good time.

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Oh, that's great.

And I

gotta tell you something, he was saying that Beatles song, guess what?

My son is going to see Ringo Starr next month.

And we got tickets today for Paul McCartney.

When is that?

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Paul

McCartney's October 17th at Capitol.

No, in Minneapolis at the

new

football stadium.

So that lucky little, whoa.

Yeah, two Beatles one year, 2,400 bucks.

That's someone I've never seen him, but like that's a bucket list.

He loves Ringo Starr because he's a drummer.

And he likes to drum like Ringo, where you hit the hi-hat with your left hand instead of the right hand.

He's just kind of weird like that.

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Let's talk about, you have another show coming up after this one called Don't Squeeze the Charm.

This is in September.

I love the, I remember the commercials.

Mr. Whipple.

Mr.

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Whipple, that's gotta be 70s

and 80s music.

Totally, totally 70s music.

It's gonna take, it takes place at Sherway, which was a big store in Green Bay.

There were 18 of them at one time and they all closed.

So we bring back the nostalgia of Sherway and one of the girls in the show,

show is named char and guess who wants to squeeze?

The Charmin the boss.

No, that's me.

I'm flurpy.

I'm one of the characters and I'm a I'm a stock boy and I love the arm and I want to squeeze that charm and all the time.

It's not even creepy when you say it like no, it's not sweet.

It's like, you know, and she

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takes

pity on me.

She doesn't let me squeeze her though.

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Yeah.

Well, that's September.

That'll be a great show too.

Frank Hermans is my guest from pardon me.

Let me be Frank Productions here in Green Bay.

Um, so you're like this big local legend.

You're a big star in Wisconsin.

You've got this empire you've built here.

And I honestly mean this.

I don't know.

I'm sure there are other Frank Hermans out there in America

or there's one in there's one in Norway.

That's a doctor.

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No, but I don't mean like.

a guy who set up this empire in an area of a state that shows up as prolifically as you do.

Who's your mentor for this or your

influence?

Everybody asked me that and I really don't know.

Here's what happened.

It was February, or 1999, I owned this bar and I had a friend, Joe Kittinger, who...

He's one of the founders.

And we like theater.

And we did Joseph for the Music Dreamcoat together.

We

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were both

theater majors.

And I go, let's try this.

Let's do our own show.

I got this because I own the venue and I had a place to do it.

That's

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the

key.

I own the brick and mortar.

So I had the opportunity to do it.

So we put the show together.

It sold out.

Who knew?

Who knew?

that this would happen.

That was the one that kind

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of-

Yeah, the 10th in February of 2000.

And then we did the show.

We bought the show from a guy named Brian Kelly out of Minneapolis, a buddy of Joe's for 500 bucks.

And I go, I can write a show like this.

Yeah.

I can write this show.

So we wrote a tribute to the 70s.

That's our first show.

We had seven nights.

We only had 120 seats.

We sold out every night.

Hey, let's do a tribute to the 60s.

We did it.

Sold out every night.

Very nice.

And it just kept going.

That's

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fantastic.

So what do you, all right, when you're not writing, cause you turn out shows like I can't even believe the rate of which you write these shows, but what do you, what kind of theater or live shows do you go

to when you're not performing?

I go see a lot.

I love comedy.

You know, I try to, I get to skyline every once in a while, but I wish there was a comedy store in here in Green Bay again, like we used to have Docs.

There was Docs and then

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there

might have been a funny bone for a cup of coffee.

It took me out of business.

They started Paper in the City.

I needed

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45

tickets to break even to cover the headliners.

I was doing 30 people.

You know, I needed 80 to make some money, and they were giving away tickets and stealing all my comedians.

And jacking up the cost of drinks.

Jacking it up, yeah, drinks, that's what it was.

Two drink, but I didn't do that.

But anyway, I love high school musicals.

I just went and saw in Chilton.

I went and saw Nine to Five.

I went and saw the Kokona players, Hunchback and Notre Dame.

Phenomenal!

And I'm going to see six musical down in Keele.

Summer theater.

I love summer theater.

Pete Schwaba

I do too.

And we've gone to Peninsular Players.

That is an evening.

We're coming right back.

Frank Herman's is here, folks.

He's going to perform live in the studio.

And that's coming up next after this very short break.

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Conrad Krieger, working the board as usual.

And in the studio tonight, this is always fun when this guest swings by.

Oftentimes, just unannounced, he just shows up with his guitar.

That's right.

I'm busking.

I'm busking.

And you see me outside the window.

Hey, Frank, come on in.

All right, come on in, Frank.

Oh, I got to pay for

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parking.

That's Frank Hermans.

He's here from Let Me Be Frank Productions.

His new show starts July 17th and just tomorrow, actually.

And you can get tickets at TicketsTar, the Resh Center, myertheatre.org.

It's called...

I found my thrill on Scraze Hill with music from the 60s.

You can't, it's gonna be so much fun.

Good stuff, man.

So you're gonna play something.

I'm so excited.

I'm gonna play some nice Mike Nesmiths, see if you like it.

All

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right.

Frank Herman.

Her name was Joanne and she lived in a meadow by a pond.

And she touched me for a moment With the look that spoke of me of her sweet love Then the woman that she was Drove around with desperation And I saw as she went A most hopeless situation For Joanne and the man and the time That made them both run

She was only a girl and I knew that well but still I could not see That the hold that she had was much stronger than the love she felt for me But staying with her and a little bit of wisdom broke down her desires like a lie

through a prism into yellows and blues and the dream that I could have sung though the air since it's gone I have no tears to cry for her and my only thoughts of her are kind her name was Joanne and she lived

me for a moment with a look that spoke to me of her sweet love and the woman that she was drove her on with desperation and I saw as she went her most hopeless situation for Joanne and the man and time that made them both run for Joanne

That's

awesome.

Is that a cool little tune?

I never heard that song before.

That was outstanding.

I think it made it to number, Mike Nesmith.

I think it made to like number 35 in the top 40.

It was his only top 40 hit and my wife played it for me off an album.

And I was like, that's a cool riff.

Beautiful lyrics too.

Yeah.

Love it.

Yeah.

It's all about a girl that he liked and

Yeah, she just had something for someone else.

Unrequited love.

Unrequited love.

The genesis of all art.

Yes.

Exactly.

That's outstanding.

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Check out Frank's show at the Meyer Theater.

Found my thrill on Grace Hilton in September.

He's got please don't squeeze.

The Charmin.

Don't squeeze the Charmin.

Oh, I was looking for a plan words there, but you're just taking the

title.

Well, yeah, don't squeeze the Charmin.

The show is rated PNG because Proctor and Gamble.

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That's

fantastic.

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Hey, we got about a minute

or two

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left.

Tell me about your trip to Scotland.

I

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loved following your

posts.

So I got this thing I do.

It's called the History Bluff.

I've been doing it for like 15 years.

I got a little page if you want to check it out.

History Bluff, Frank R. Herman's History Bluff.

And I always do funny things when I go see.

and I make stuff up and they talk like this, like I know what I'm talking about.

So a tour company got a hold of me and said, hey, you've been to Scotland a couple times, would you like to take a tour?

And I'm like, is it free?

Yes.

Then it's me.

So I brought 16 folks to Scotland and met a tour guy over there named John, his tour company.

He's actually using my videos now in Scotland to sell trips.

And because it was so successful,

All 16 of these people became like best friends.

So we're going to get next year.

Very cool.

Is that

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something anybody can...

Is it already booked?

It's already booked.

Yeah, it's already sold out if someone drops out I will let folks know but it's it's seven days in the Highlands, you know with with plane It's like five grand apiece.

It's not crazy expensive.

We stay in castles We stay in

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cool places

and I take you to places that I like.

Yeah, we just we don't go do all the touristy Walt Disney stuff We go to the cool stuff.

Yeah, are you Scottish?

Is that the

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connection?

I am Scottish, but I love driving in

in Ireland and Scotland and England.

So I love driving on the rocks.

So I've been to Ireland three times.

I've been to Scotland three times.

I just like it.

It's pretty cool, man.

That's really

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cool.

Frank Hermans, you are a blast.

Thank you so much.

Best of luck with all the shows

you

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have coming up.

And I cannot wait to see you in Marinette.

Yes.

We are gonna party.

January 29th.

You

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like to party, right?

Dude,

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look at me.

Look at me.

Look at this hard livin' right here.

I am all about Blue Moon and A, baby.

Thank you so much,

Pete Schwaba

buddy.

Frank Herman, check out

his show.

Thanks,

Pete Schwaba

buddy.

Found my thrill on Skray's self.

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I

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found

my thrill.

It opens

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tomorrow night, and you'll be back soon, I hope.

I will.

We'll talk about Sherman

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next time.

And Mike Clemens, thank you to Mike Clemens.

Thank you for all your texts and being part of Nightlight on behalf of the lovable producer, Conrad.

Good night, Wisconsin.

Thanks, Conrad.

Kathryn Lake

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