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Popcorn Pick with Tom Clark(Hour 1)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Thu Jun 26, 2025
Broadcasting live statewide from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba, your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now a guy who gives edible undies as gifts just because they taste good, Pete Schwabba.
Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.
I forgot about that one.
You've been burying that, keeping that in a vault, waiting to break it out.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a great one, isn't it?
You know, you get home late at night, you got a game waiting for you, you're hungry, you just eat a nice pair of edible lundies.
It has to be weird about it.
Nobody has to make it a kinky, weird, dirty fetish thing.
They just taste good.
What flavor are you rocking?
Strawberry.
Strawberry?
Yeah.
I'd probably go for a watermelon.
Strawberry banana.
Oh.
OK.
Watermelon's good.
You'll have to bring some samples of it.
Watermelon's good.
It's a superfood.
Yes.
I don't know if that translates to edible underwear, but yeah, I'll bring some in.
I'll bring that when I ask to go to the Fourth of July party.
What can I bring?
And they'll say, surprise us.
Oh, boy, will I.
You shouldn't have said that.
Done and done.
Welcome to Nightlight, ladies and gentlemen.
Great to have you with me on this Thursday night.
Lots of fun to be had tonight.
It's another gloomy day in Wisconsin and that is radio weather as far as I'm concerned.
It is a beautiful day when it comes to radio and discussing the things we love.
Movies and TV and music and comedy.
We're doing the popcorn pick of the week tonight.
That'll be fun.
And we're talking indie film tonight.
Tom Clark, comedian Tom Clark will be here at 635.
Tom, I just had the pleasure of doing a read through.
We have a mutual friend.
who I didn't know Tom knew, who has been on this show, Rich Tellerico.
Tom is good friends with Rich as well, and Rich put together a read through of his new movie script that we did over Zoom the other day, and Tom read the lead role, and it was very funny.
So we'll talk to Tom about that, and anything else he's got cooking, we have a little, how funny is that clip I sent
you?
He
is a great standup.
And we'll play, I've got about a minute long clip of Tom's appearance on Conan that we'll tease in the next segment before he joins us at 635 to make the popcorn pick of the week.
I know Tom's gonna come up with something good.
And then Grace Painter-Cazelle, I wanna make sure I'm saying this right, because I did reach out to her and I asked her phonetically how to say her name.
And I think we nailed it.
So we will...
We'll talk to Grace at 720 or 735.
I can't remember when we booked Grace, but she will be here.
And she is the founder of Ruby Red Films, which will be, they do a lot of stuff.
Grace will be here at 720.
They're doing a lot of stuff.
They've got a project in the works now.
She's a Milwaukee based filmmaker and just reached out to the show about two weeks ago.
So I'm glad we got her on because her project sounds great.
And I'm very excited to talk to Grace.
at 720 over the stream.
And we've got, you know, this is so funny.
We talked about that when JD, JD, JB Thompson was here a couple of weeks ago, the guy behind the guy, behind the guy.
I made just kind of an aside almost, a throwaway comment about how I thought shaking hands was silly.
And it is.
It's just kind of a weird thing.
I don't know how it came to be.
I've done a little research on the topic.
Apparently, it's to show the person you're standing opposite from that you're not carrying a weapon.
Because oftentimes, people that are right-handed would reach across the body and pull out a sword, a sword, some kind of weapon.
So if you reached out your right hand and put it out, you were showing them you were not carrying a weapon or a sword or a machete.
So
it served its purpose back then, but mostly people don't walk around with weaponry like that.
Yeah, I would say it probably isn't the same meaning anymore.
Right.
But we've just grown accustomed to it, so we still do it.
I think it's strange.
So what do you,
nowadays, what do you think shaking hands actually, actually means?
Well, it's just like a hello, how do you do?
How's your father?
Is it some sort of respect?
I think it's just a peaceful greeting, but I'm fine with all of that.
I do think it's strange Like when you introduce two people hello stranger, I'd like to squeeze your hand.
Let's have an intimate act here I have no idea where it's been or how you choose to use your hand in your spare time But I'd like to hold it for a while,
you know The video that we're gonna play that you sent me.
Yeah
about the handshaking.
I thought it was hilarious because he's like, don't do these.
It's like, you know, I think I've done all of these.
Of course.
And I had a friend who is going through insurance training and he learned that when you shake a man's hand and a lot of times that's thinking becomes kind of a pissing contest for men.
It's who can squeeze harder who has the, and that's what's silly too.
And this guy said when they were the insurance company, he was undergoing training for.
They suggested when you grab someone else's hand, you kind of turn yours a little bit.
So your hand is on top establishing dominance.
Like they're gonna buy renters insurance from you because of that.
It makes no sense.
You know, the one, I don't know if you've seen this before when someone shakes in hand and then they'll like put the other hand too with it.
Oh yeah, that's way too intimate.
That is weird.
That's like you're basically dating at that point.
We don't need that.
And then there's the guy that tries to squeeze the living daylights out of your hand, catching you off guard.
It's
like,
there shouldn't be a contest.
But I find the idea that you just meet someone and you're holding a body part of theirs.
It's just kind of odd.
Like in the Far East, they do the bow.
That kind of says the same thing.
It's nice to meet you.
I feel like that's more respect too.
Yeah.
And I think the handshake that drives me the most crazy, though, is you ever get that guy who will shake your hand and his index finger kind of crawls up your wrist a little bit?
That's invasive.
Yeah, I know it,
yeah.
And very off-putting.
You know, the worst one, I think, when you're shaking hands.
I usually don't tend to initiate it myself.
Yeah.
But someone who recently washed their hand.
And then you get the wet hand.
Yeah,
even though that's a clean hand, it's still very unsettling.
Or you don't know if they washed their hand or if it's something else.
Well, you think they just peed on their hand and offered it to you?
It could have.
What kind of a psychopath would that have to be?
Yeah, but there are those guys, they squeeze it so hard, it's like, it's sort of like a, you know, it's like buying a huge pickup truck.
Or I think it's the same thing, you're compensating.
If you're willing to grab someone's hand that hard, it's just not cool.
So with that in mind, I think it's time to go to our question of the night.
Let's talk about the question.
OK, question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
OK, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Question.
Questions.
Oh, you guessed it.
Ladies and gentlemen, perfect timing.
This is national handshake day.
I'm not making that up.
There is a day that celebrates the shaking of hands.
How do you feel about the handshake?
I want to know.
And what would be a better custom?
I like the fist bump.
It's kind of touched knuckles.
It's a very quick kind of... Again, I don't know why we have to touch each other when we barely know each other.
But I like the knuckles better than...
better than the handshake?
Unless it's a friend.
Look, and I'm a hugger.
Like, if I know someone well and I haven't seen them in a while, bring it in.
Let's go, man.
Okay.
I'll give a hug.
Yeah.
But I find the handshake, you know, kind of strange.
So let us know what you think about the handshake.
How do you feel about the handshake and what would be a better custom?
What do you think would be more apropos?
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So I think, I like a bow is good.
I think knuckles.
How about some weird move?
How about a, how about a dab?
I think that could be kind of cool.
Let's have a mini dance-off to say we like each other.
Well, I don't like that one.
Yeah, well, you know what?
It's not all about you, Conrad.
So here's a video I found.
This is, I was looking for, like, you know, my buddy Mike Tume finds these old instructional videos and I couldn't find one on the handshake and I googled...
basically googled my, I probably have no more fingerprints because of my googling today.
But I found a kind of a mock old school handshake video.
So let's hear that
now.
Bill, what's got you still on edge?
I'm just so nervous to meet all these new people today.
I'm afraid I'm going to shake their hands and
They won't like me.
Bill, there's nothing to be afraid of.
Over your lifetime and career, you will shake many a hand at social and professional gatherings.
And during that brief moment of physical contact, people are going to form opinions of you.
Your handshake could give them the impression that you're a warm, kind person.
Or a cold and aloof one.
You'll want to know how to give a handshake that creates a favorable impression.
I know, that's a lot of pressure.
Bill, don't be such a little emasculated mass of inanity.
It's time to be a man and learn how to shake a hand properly.
Well, alright then.
There are three keys to a successful handshake.
As you take the other person's hand, make sure to grasp it fully.
The web between your thumb and forefinger should connect with the web of the other person's hand.
Don't give a finger shake.
Be sure your handshake grip is firm, not a dead fish grip like a pansy.
However, you don't want to crush the other person's hand with a gorilla death grip.
Give the person's hand one pump and then release.
I
have a couple things.
If you use the word pansy and you really mean it, we're done.
And don't say man card that that's another one.
Oh, you better give up your man card Okay, those two those two Commonalities I could I could do away with but so there are
rules, right?
You know, I Like it said in there.
I've done all those I've had a
little
hand sometimes not you know going into it and then all of a sudden they got
Yeah, death grip and I'm sitting there just like
you can't once they Establish once they go in and really squeeze your hand you can't squeeze back because you're basically a dead fish at that point You're at their mercy.
You're you're your pointer finger and you're pinky.
It's just getting crushed.
It's awful.
They're all yeah, your fingers are like over the other ones Tom Clark our guest at 635 very funny stand-up comedian actor and Wisconsin native son has a very funny joke about hinge.
He has a great bit
I would Google this if I were you folks.
Go Google Tom Clark.
Awkward moments, something like that.
He does a great joke about shaking someone's hand and to make it extra weird smell your hand.
Oh, no.
And it's so great.
He sells it so well on stage.
So, you know, I think instead of a handshake, like that, like in the animal kingdom, they bump heads
like a ram.
That might
be too much.
That would be pretty cool.
Less intimate.
You say, hey, nice to meet you.
Just bump your
heads together.
Yeah, break someone's nose.
Yeah, that's great.
So I want to tell you, all right, that's our question tonight, folks.
It's National Handshake Day.
This day exists.
How do you feel about the handshake?
And what would be a better custom?
I called 911 today on my way down.
Really?
Someone was swerving, dude.
It was bad news I was on the phone with the cops for about five minutes And I told him what kind of car this guy was like literally and everybody's trying to avoid him was crazy You know what that's a guy whose hand I do not want to shake
I would like to give him a beating, though.
No.
All right, let us know your thoughts on the handshake, folks.
855-7524-842.
Tom Clark is here tonight, making the popcorn pick of the week.
We'll hear some of Tom's comedy next, and I'll read your texts.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.
I do come from a long line of show business people.
Actually, my great, great grandfather was actually a Civil War reenactor during the Civil War.
A little ahead of his time, a little ahead of his time.
My parents are older, older, older than me.
If your parents are younger, you're probably adopted.
And growing up, they're very homophobic, very homo.
I'm sorry, they're very homophobic.
They hated words that sounded the same, but meant something completely different.
That is such a great joke.
I absolutely love that joke.
I got to watch Tom, he did my football fundraiser for me in Marinette about a year and a half ago with his hilarious wife, Steph, they both did the show and man, what a great show that was.
and watch it and Steph is hilarious too.
She did the middle spot and then Tom closed and getting to watch him for 45 minutes or an hour maybe even was just outstanding.
So Tom will be here at 6.35 to do the popcorn pick of the week and all right you have to now I just told you the story before the break about how I called 911 on my way down here because a minivan some single dude in the minivan
was swerving all over the place.
Then he's going 60, then he's going 90.
And it's like, I don't hesitate anymore.
I call 911.
And I stayed on the phone for about five minutes.
And this 911 operator got all this information.
But you had a story that you told me about during the break.
Tell that story this first one.
Well, I don't know what unlocked a memory for me.
And when I was younger, I don't know, 10, I think I was with my cousin.
And we were at a bowling alley.
And we were out like
Those between two doors, you know, they usually have a pay phone in there.
Yeah, and we didn't think that If we didn't have the money in there, I would actually call 9-1-1 So like we typed it in there's no money in it and it still went through And when I said it this is 9-1-1.
What's your emergency?
I just handed it to my cousin And all I heard from him was this is Colin
He told the 9-1-1 operator his name
so so
So they, they showed up at the bowling alley and we weren't there anymore, but they, they found out who it was.
And yeah, my aunts and my group, they took us to the police station and we got lectured by the talking to why it's not good.
That's so cool.
911 in a non-emergency.
I absolutely love that.
We were so scared.
We thought we were getting locked up.
I thought you committed.
It's like a felony.
Yeah.
That's fantastic.
How old were you?
I think I was like nine or ten something around there.
That's great Our question of the night is national handshake day folks.
How do you feel about the handshake and what would be a better custom?
On the stream Dave says pull my finger
Okay,
it's actually less invasive
I don't know if we need to bring bodily functions into the equation, Dave, but sure, why not?
Pull my finger.
Going to the social media responses from earlier today, Amanda says surprise attacks.
Like a surprise tickle?
A tickle or just a takedown?
It's kind of an escalation.
Hey, nice to meet you.
Yeah.
I'm a kneecap, yeah.
Thank you, Amanda.
Mike Desitel says, I like the handshake.
It's civil.
I knew Mike was gonna like the handshake.
Mike is a very, is a ridiculously good citizen.
And I knew he was gonna like the
handshake.
Yeah, I'd like to shake his hand.
Yeah, he says it's civil.
That it is.
However, I'm not opposed to arm wrestling.
Now you made it weird, Mike.
Our
pal
Vince Moranto says, grab ass.
Yeah, why not?
I mean, come on.
It's just a butt.
And your clothes go for it Vince.
Let us know how that works out for you.
I wouldn't
I wouldn't recommend doing that.
I don't want to be the first one in I'll tell you that much Dave Hendrick all my buddy Dave.
Love Dave.
He says I like secret handshakes.
Yeah, those are good.
Secret handshakes are great, but how would you get a stranger?
Yeah, just kind of improv it.
I guess yeah be kind of cool too.
I Like all these so far.
These are great answers as usual here from the nightlight listeners
And Andrea from Graffin says, since there are far too many healthcare, oh, sorry, that is not intended for us.
Sorry, Andrea, we're not gonna read a little too political for Nightlight, but thank you to you for getting involved and texting.
I assume that was meant for Maggie.
Yes.
Hopefully Maggie will see that.
Cam from Appleton said, oh, that's not for us either.
Hey Conrad, did we get any text that were mentioned for, are meant for us tonight?
Yes, yes.
Tom from New Berlin
said, what the
age?
Shaking hands is great.
But try bumping Uglies.
That's
too far, Tom.
He says with you, Pete.
So he doesn't like him either.
But he's going a little too far.
Tom, I was thinking of something less invasive or intimate.
And Tom's just putting it all out there.
I don't think I like that.
And I think a hug is OK if you do like a bro hug, if you shake hands and you keep the arms between you when you hug.
You know, last week when I was...
lifting weights I asked someone to spot me for bench press and I got what I wanted I said I want to do about four and I did it and the guy showed some respect he gave me some nucks yeah and I was like you know that's great not a lot of people do that in a gym because they're always like oh this guy he can lift more than me or he can't lift as much as me so you
lifted more than him I
know I don't know if I did I'm just saying that's like some mentalities you know and like that gym atmosphere
but
he's just like
Good job
dude.
There are some I love when I work out because there's never anybody there Yeah, but when I was living in LA I remember I was on like an extra cycle or whatever the guy next to me and this guy looked like a Bigfoot like he had hair everywhere Okay, it was a sweaty mess and he reaches over or he goes can I take a look at your sports?
This is when newspapers and you put the newspaper over the bike and I would be and I always save the sports because I like that the best so he
He starts to reach for it, and then he goes, can I take a look at your sports?
And I go, yeah, as soon as I'm done.
He goes, oh, is that how it is?
Yeah, sweaty McGee.
Oh, freak.
Hey.
He could just say, all right, let me know when you're done.
Right.
Or here's an idea.
The only times at that time was a quarter.
Get your own.
You got a ballies membership.
Get yourself a newspaper.
Um, and I want to talk about Scarlett Johansson and Colin Joes to clickbait too.
Bulls save that.
Remind me that.
I got tricked into clicking.
Uh, it's happened before.
Alright, folks, when we come back, it's the popcorn pick of the week.
Our pal Tom Clark is here, the very funny comedian and Wisconsin native son.
Gives us a movie to check out.
You won't want to miss that.
Tom is always a blast.
This is Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Great to have you with me on this Thursday night the Christmas Eve of weeknights The Kid Conrad Krieger riding shotgun and this Our our question of the night is it's national handshake day.
How do you feel about the handshake?
What would be a better custom?
And I'm only rereading the question because we usually play the Popcorn Pick of the Week music to intro this segment that we've been doing for quite a while now, but Conrad seems to be back in Payphoneville when he called 911 with his cousin.
Do we not get the Popcorn Pick?
All right, hold on.
It's time
for the Nightlight Popcorn Pick of the Week, where we recommend a movie that you'll either enjoy or won't.
Here's your host,
Pete Schwabba.
That's right, buddy.
Don't think I won't throw you under the bus if I have to.
I think that's the first time you've ever forgotten.
It is the popcorn pick of the week.
Folks, it is great to have you with us because now, all right, by the end of this segment, ladies and gentlemen, you're gonna have a new movie to check out.
Either one you haven't seen or maybe one you've seen and forgotten about or one you've never heard of.
We've run the gamut here with this segment that we do every week here on Thursday nights at 6.35.
And here tonight to make the popcorn pick and just catch up in general is one of my favorite comedians.
He's a Wisconsin native son and he joins us over the stream.
Mr. Tom Clark.
Hey, buddy.
Hey, how
you doing?
Doing very well.
How are you, Tom?
Good.
Now, I've got an idea, you know, for the handshake day, but this is how to avoid handshakes.
Okay.
Medium shake someone's hand.
Smell your hand.
I
have to come clean, Tom.
I told them
your
joke earlier.
I kind of mentioned that, but of course I footnoted because it's one of the funniest things I've ever seen when you do that joke and the way you smell your hand is just gorgeous.
So that's a great one.
Are you all right?
No, I told people also that you I didn't know you were a friend of Rich Taylor Rico's as well.
You probably know him better than I do.
But Rich has been on this show several times.
Great guy.
And we did this fantastic read through of his new script.
I won't divulge any details, but it was over zoom and you played the lead role and you were fantastic, buddy.
Oh, thank you so much.
Yeah, I've known Rich here.
The funny thing I saw Rich perform at Second City like in 1999.
I think Stephanie Weir was in that company at that time and he did this.
They were playing freeze tag and he did this thing where he's sitting down and Stephanie Weir is like this and they say freeze and Stephanie Weir says, I'm a ballerina and Rich says, that's not going to bring your mother back.
And that line just killed me.
He's like, I'll be upstairs polishing my gun.
Oh, man, that's great.
And I told him that when I finally ran into him out here.
And from that, we started to develop the friendship.
And then he took my stand up class, which is actually where that idea for the movie came from was.
Yeah, again, I won't go into the details.
But but I asked people to stand in front of the class and and the class members say, what do you see in this person?
So you look at somebody, you might say, oh, this guy looks like Biff from Back to the Future.
This guy looks like a lumberjack or whatever.
So from that, one of the things he got was how he got his idea for the movie.
That is incredible.
So that was years ago.
And the script
is just
finally, it's funny.
And that's just what happens with writing sometimes.
You table something or you shelve it and you go back to it.
But yeah, it was a very funny script and a great idea.
Yeah.
No, it was a lot of fun.
I was surprised to see him there.
I didn't realize.
Yeah.
Well, you must know about your movie career as well.
He did.
Well, he said that and he said he remembered me from being a Chicago standup.
And I kind of remember him.
I think he was just starting out in improv, but he and I did some really bad pilot together.
Oh,
that's
where I remembered him from.
And I don't even know if he remembered me from that, but he was just a really nice guy.
And I'm happy to be his friend.
And he's a great guest when he's on the show and really talented.
Oh,
yeah.
All right, so let's talk movies and TV snacks, Tom, before we get into some other things you have going on, how do you typically like to watch movies?
What's your approach?
Theater, home?
I mean, now it's all home.
I don't think I've been to a movie theater in five years or six years.
Really?
Pre-COVID.
Pre-COVID.
Yeah, I just don't go at all.
Actually, I did go to see...
What the heck movie was it?
The Deadpool 2.
We were in Vegas and we went to a movie.
This guy wanted to see Deadpool 2.
And it was fine.
I don't know.
It's such a, I mean, the big seats.
And I miss like the sticky floors and the popcorn everywhere.
And I used to like a comfortable seat, you know, go back to the old way.
Seats are a little too
comfortable now, I think.
Oh, yeah client and everything that was
fun though I
remember I remember working the road and going to movies with comics during the day and I missed that that was kind of a fun routine, you know
Yeah, it's everything's on your computer everything you can just watch and you know, I remember This was like probably 1981 or two.
I I was I was friends with this There's like one black family in my neighborhood and
We were friends and they took me downtown on a Saturday night.
We saw Skate Town USA at an all-black movie theater.
It was the most culturally awakening experience of my life because just hearing people yell at the screen and just the interaction
with the
movie.
It was the most entertaining movie I've ever watched.
You go to like, you know, walk a show and watch a movie.
It's so like
Blanned but there was like it was so active like I felt involved with the movie and like people are narrating stuff I mean, it's the funniest experience of my life.
That's
great.
I miss that.
Yeah.
Yeah, totally What do you what is your kind of like what genre do you like to watch time?
Do you have a favorite or a typical genre that you watch in the Clark household?
Usually comedy usually somewhat
poignant his poignant genre I mean sort of we like we like funny, but we also like something that has a little dramatic flair to it I'm trying to remember what we watched recently we watched this movie Thelma about this 90 year old woman who goes on a quest to To get a scammer get her money back from a scammer
with Richard
Yeah, yeah Richard roundtree.
That's right
It was it was good.
It was a little slow paced, but I did enjoy I enjoy a movie with like a good concept like
yeah,
especially like a Character that doesn't get used a lot of like an elderly woman and man going out on a quest to To kind of be the idea was like they're doing their Tom Cruise mission impossible right to get their money back and They're going around in like a motorized cart and yeah, I enjoyed it, but it was you know
It's always hard to execute in the execution of it.
Totally.
I have to be honest.
I loved that concept.
When I read that, I was like, I cannot wait to see this.
It got like 95% on Rotten Tomatoes.
And it
went and I was bored to tears.
I was like, yeah, this is a real clunker.
And I don't know if like they were.
thinking oh this is so cute this 90 year old woman is trying to get her like that yeah that's great but it just was kind of slow right I don't know
super slow in the editing and like I get the idea of like they move slow but it was just uh yeah I like you said I was just like such a great log line but yeah just
died on the screen.
And something we've all wanted to do as well is when we get scammed or go after scammers.
But what do you, what is your snack of choice, Tom?
When you watch a movie at home, whether you're alone or with staff or whatever, what's your snack?
I mean, it's popcorn.
It's the standard.
Yeah, or not.
I can't, I know some people like to
love it
I
love
it.
Tom Clark is my guest.
He is a very funny stand-up comedian and actor and a Wisconsin native son.
He came from Milwaukee and started his comedy career there.
He's joining us tonight to make the popcorn pick of the week.
I'm with you too about the popcorn.
And I don't mind buying like gourmet popcorn if it's already in the bag and already made, if people really know what they're doing.
Do you have a, and the nice thing is Tom, and maybe you can go back to your.
Movie going days when you did go to the theater.
Did you ever
sneak
booze in to the theater?
I I did not I went on a date one time and This was not stuff.
This was pre stuff and she decided to buy She's like I want to buy you know Southern Comfort or something and have it in the theater.
She comes in it's a handle of Southern Comfort and
We're sitting in the theater.
I don't even remember what movie it was.
I think it was role models.
And she just I just hear she gets a big large coke.
She I just hear like three quarters of it poured on the floor of the theater, not even like subtle going to the bath.
And then I just hear into the soda glass.
I'm like, Oh, this is like our second date.
Oh my gosh.
And that's not even the worst one.
The second worst one was, went to see Goodwill hunting at the Oriental Theater.
The girl fell asleep halfway through the movie.
And I was so tempted.
It's not even a comfortable seat.
It's the Oriental Theater.
It's like, you know, gum on the floor.
She just dozed off.
I'm like, this is not good.
Did you just sneak away that or what?
Oh, I was so tempted to just leave the theater and just let her wake up.
You know, how do you like them apples?
I
was
saying was that
was that did she pass out after drinking half a bottle of Southern comfort?
Like you probably could have seen that coming.
Yeah, these are two separate dates.
One was the Southern comfort lady who.
Managed to stay awake.
The other was the girl who just fell asleep midway through the movie.
So
yeah,
that was I Don't think it's ever worked out with going with a girl to a movie theater.
I went with Steph to see I was in a movie called freaks of nature And I was with Dennis Leary
had a
big scene in the movie and
And then stuff like this was when there was like the shooting at the movie theaters.
And she just panicked.
She couldn't sit in the theater.
So I couldn't even watch the rest of the movie because she had sort of a panic attack with that.
So it's just me and girls at movie theaters just doesn't seem to work out at all.
Just go to a play next time or so.
Go to a museum, Tom.
Yeah.
What kind of a...
What kind of cocktail do you like when you when you watch a movie at home?
Do you have a good old Wisconsin old fashioned or just a beer?
What do you what do you do?
I wish I had a good answer.
I it's literally like water.
It's like nothing.
It's not so not like I've oh my god, I've cleaned up my act a lot.
It
sounds like you were affected by that Southern comfort girl like you thought I got to fly
right
and scared straight, you know, something like that.
Yeah, I can't, you know, I know, yeah, there's nothing really, you know, maybe once in a while rip your float.
Oh, there you go.
They're getting fancy.
But, you know, if I'm a good boy.
Yeah, I mistook you for someone who liked to party, Tom.
I didn't know you were.
You're from Wisconsin.
I thought
maybe
I set you up there for a cocktail.
But all right, Tom Clark is here, folks.
The very funny Tom Clark.
We're going to do a very short break.
We're going to come back and get his popcorn pick of the week.
Great to have you with me on this Thursday night.
It's Nightlight with Peach Waba on the Civic Media Radio
Network.
This is the Civic Media Radio Network and Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.
I am Pete Schwabba and we are talking Popcorn Pick of the Week here with our guest, Wisconsin native son, Milwaukee native son.
The very funny Tom Clark has joined us over the stream.
We're just about to get his Popcorn Pick of the Week.
Tom, have you ever cried during a movie?
What makes you cry?
You're kind of a big burly macho guy.
What makes the rain come?
Oh my god, anything, anything.
They totally, yeah, they, they, if you're a, if you're good at pulling at the heartstrings, I will, I will let out an audible sob during the movie.
I think I was with stuff and I just, I can't, I wish I could remember the movie off him, but I went, I was just like.
And she liked
seeing your sensitive side was at a good.
Moment your
relationship.
Yeah, she appreciated that.
That's great a lot of a lot of d-bags So she is I think surprised that I was
audibly sobbing.
Alright,
what about
like when you were, like I said, you're a big guy, you played football at St.
Norbert's as I understand it.
That's right.
And I don't think I would mess with you, certainly, mostly because I just think you're a nice guy.
But that aside, like, have you ever been in a theater and people are talking, have you ever shushed anybody or given them a look or threatened them?
No.
This is kind of unrelated, but we're watching the movie Shallow Hell, which is the Jack Black movie where he, you know, he's dating Gwyneth Paltrow, he's really heavy, but he's only able to see their inner beauty.
We're about three quarters of the way through the movie in the sky in front of me, whispers to his wife, he's like, oh, he only sees their inner beauty.
I was like,
How are you just getting that?
Like we're way past you realizing, like that was the funniest thing.
I laughed out loud.
Steph and I laughed out loud when we heard that guy.
I think I've told this before on the show, but
I went to, I don't know if you remember.
Oh, good Milwaukee comic, Mick Lozinski.
I don't know if you ever met Mick.
But yeah, he and I were working Indianapolis together.
We went to see Pulp Fiction during the day.
It was like a one o'clock showing.
And I think it was just the two of us and then these two other guys in the theater.
And it was the scene where Travolta, you thought he had died and then all of a sudden he's alive again.
It's, you know, non-linear.
They're just telling the story
and
jumping around.
And this guy could not wrap his head around that.
So we're like 10 feet.
We just hear the guy go What?
Wait a minute What's going on here out loud Tom like say I'm like are you kidding me like you don't you think it's like an editing Gaff or something like trust me that they think they know what they're A little faith buddy All right, I think it's time to get our popcorn pick of the week from our pal Tom Clark Conrad if you please
That's the night like popcorn pick of the week by Tom Clark.
Tom, what can you recommend?
I'm going to recommend 1984 repo man with Emilio Estevez.
I believe in one of his first roles.
Yeah.
Wow.
Nice pick.
Have you seen that?
Like I probably I've seen it once and I thought it was really cool.
I probably saw it in the 80s and I have not seen it since.
Have you
seen it recently and does it hold up?
Um, you know, here's a funny thing.
They would broadcast there was one point on channel 18 in Milwaukee where they would broadcast our rated movies Uncut unedited and we did not have cable in our house.
We didn't have HBO.
We didn't have select TV or any of that stuff.
So So you could hear swearing and I reap a man has so much swearing and I was blown away by it and
I just thought it was so cool because I wasn't really, we kind of just kind of raised pretty Catholic, so I wasn't really going to a lot of R rated movies.
So I must, I recorded it off the TV and I probably watched it like, you know, 15 or 20 times.
It has like this punk rock soundtrack and just so many great lines.
Harry Dean Stanton's in it.
And it's just such a bizarre movie.
I just love it.
It sort of makes fun of Scientology and
Sort of the end of the world and it sort of reminds me of being a comic because it's sort of these low-level repo men and their lives Their life sort of repoing cars and there's a line in there.
It's like, you know what?
I hate ordinary people They avoid intense situations a repo man gets into intense situations Like I was like that's like a comedian.
That's the same thing.
So
Wow.
Love that
movie.
Great choice.
98% on the tomato meter on Rotten
Tomatoes.
Oh my
gosh.
Yeah.
And it's a brief synopsis because I needed to hear this too.
I knew he was repo'd cars, but after being fired from his job, Los Angeles slacker and punk rocker Otto, Emilio Sivas, lands a gig working for an eccentric repossession agent named Bud, Harry Dean Stanton.
This makes me, I had forgotten about this movie and now I want to see it again because I would love to see if it holds up.
Oh, that's fantastic.
Great choice, my
friend.
Yeah.
And all the repo guys, they all have beer names.
There's a guy named Bud, a guy named Miller, a guy named Ole, but that's Olympia beer back when that was a beer in the 80s.
So that's a that's a fun thing to watch for
that's a great thing too I remember when we would you know and when you first get a VCR you just want to tape everything you see on TV because you think you're gonna watch it but like Rarely do you actually record something that's great?
And watch it over and over like this film.
Let's see Tracy Walter.
Yeah, Harry Dean Stanton Boy, not a lot of big stars in this though.
No, Tracy Walter is amazing too if you've never seen
He's just such a he's like a buddy of Jack Nicholson and he's just this bizarre character in the in the movie and just a bizarre person.
That's
so funny in a real life.
Tom, we're going to do the news and I'd like to come back and play something you sent me over text.
One of your first acting
gigs.
I
understand it.
Yes.
And we'll talk a little bit about what you have going on if you can spend a few more minutes with us and we'll get you out here at a reasonable hour.
Sound good?
For sure.
Okay, buddy.
I'll be
Tom Clark is here, folks.
The very funny comedian who hails from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, making his home in LA now.
It's always fun to have Tom on the show.
We'll come back and I'm gonna play a commercial Tom did when he was much younger, but still just as good looking.
That's coming up next.
And then we're talking independent film with Grace Painter-Cozelle at 720.
She is the founder of Ruby Red Films.
Fun night here.
Great to have you with me.
It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Broadcasting live statewide from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba, your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now a guy who hates shaking hands, Pete Schwabba.
Welcome back.
I don't know if I hate shaking hands.
I just find it.
Strange.
I don't know how.
Well, I do know how it started now.
It was to prove you didn't have a weapon on you.
But I feel like we carry less weaponry on our person than we used to.
I think it's outdated.
Mostly I'm just kind of having fun with it.
But that is our question of the night, folks.
It's National Handshake Day.
How do you feel about the handshake?
What would be a better custom?
We spoke in the first hour with Tom Clark.
who is still here for a few more minutes.
He gave us the popcorn pick of the week.
This week's pick is Repo Man, an outstanding choice and definitely due for a revisit in the Schwabba household.
Grace Painter.
Kazelle will be here at 720.
She is an up-and-coming filmmaker in Milwaukee and the founder of Ruby Red Films and a very talented actress, as I understand it.
So we'll talk to Grace at 720.
Right now we have a few more minutes with my pal, Tom Clark, who joins us over the stream from, are you in LA, Tom?
Yes, yeah, about 20 minutes outside.
Okay, yeah.
I can't reveal my location.
That's our second secret tonight.
We can't talk about Rich Tellerico's funny new script and we can't say where you're joining us from because you are our target.
Right.
It's funny.
You say that when I moved to Marinette, when I was in junior high, people there, it's a shipbuilding town and they build ships at Marinette Marine and now it's called Fink and Terry, but people were so proud of the fact.
And maybe it's because I moved there from Chicago and it's like that weird thing where you feel like you have to kind of one up somebody, but people would say, you know, we build ships here.
And if there's ever a war, we're like,
the eighth place that will be attacked.
Like, we're the eighth most desired attack city.
And I'm like, well, that's a terrible thing.
Like, I'm not, doesn't really make me proud.
I'm just kind of scared to be here now, but very funny.
Great pick with repo man.
What do you have coming up, Tom?
What do you have?
Do you have dates?
I know you come back to Wisconsin a couple of times a year to do stand up.
Yeah, in early December, I'm going to be back in Wisconsin.
I'm going to be in Kenosha, I believe, December.
Oh, nice.
First week of December.
And then Saturday, I'm doing another show in Key Wascom, just outside of West Bend.
So, so yeah, those are the two big shows.
And otherwise, touring around.
I've just mainly bounced between Arizona and California doing a lot of shows in there.
Nice.
going to Arizona tomorrow for a show in Munns Park, Arizona.
So all your listeners in Munns Park, Arizona.
We do get the occasional texts from someone where I'm like, where's that area?
I
didn't even I never heard of it.
Munns Park.
It's near Sedona.
OK, we have a Conrad's eyes perked up because he is was born and raised.
He's a Kowaskam kid.
I am.
So that's exciting.
So you're going to tell your family.
Yeah, I mean they're in Florida now, but
yeah,
okay Jerry Jerry Walski is the one who's uh booking that gig.
I think you know Jerry Do
you know Jerry?
Do you know what uh where you're working at there?
I do not I can find out but uh
I'm trying to figure out.
Is there a funny bone in Kiewaskum or?
No.
I think there might be a
Zanies
though.
Catch a Rising Star, yeah.
That's
funny.
Yeah, I'm trying
to see.
I know.
Well, when you come back, Tom, we'll have to, especially before the Kenosha Day, I know that's, I've heard really good stuff about that room down there in Southeast Wisconsin.
It's supposed to be very funny.
Let me ask you this.
Have you found, you're a big Packer fan, Tom.
Have you found Packer bars?
in Southern California, do you have a Packer Bar you go to to watch the games?
Yeah, there was one in Woodland Hills that we would go to, but I believe it shut down.
But you know, I haven't found anything out here since then.
But usually I just go anywhere.
There's an NFL package.
You know, my dad's, he's 99.
So for me, it's like trying to find a place that's
Quiet and that you know, he's not gonna get trampled or something right?
so he's So usually I just try to find a nice place that has the NFL package and then Hang out and have have lunch nice, but I'm excited.
I actually I did a gig at a church in Beverly Hills and
I ended up winning the raffle and I won two Rams tickets to any game I want to go to.
So I'm excited about that because I haven't been to a SoFi stadium.
Boy, I yeah, I only have watched games from there.
And that announcer, it sounds like the Hunger Games that kind of house announces like it's for the guys always talking.
And I'm like, shut that guy up.
But
I'm sure it looks spectacular.
Yeah, it's a beautiful stadium.
And, uh, yeah, I'm very excited.
It was very awkward because I just finished like headlining and then they like immediately did the raffle and I'm like setting up my merch table and then they're like, and I'm like looking and I'm like, do I say something?
And I'm like, I want to go to the Rams game.
I don't care that I won this.
It's
a lot
of old people.
They didn't care.
They're
not going to go.
They're just walking past you going, well, you really cleaned up here today.
Didn't you buddy?
Want
to buy a shirt?
Come on.
Let's go.
We have the, you sent this to me.
This is a commercial.
Set this commercial up please.
It's only like 30 seconds long, but I'd love to play it.
Yeah, and in 2003, there was a sort of like cattle call for an audition for movie tickets.com.
It was the old sites like Fandango where you'd order your tickets online.
I never understood the point of it and I was the spokesperson for it.
But yeah, I was just lucky enough to be cast.
I was there for like six hours.
The people before me were all clowns, literally clowns.
people dressed as clowns and they like it was like people left the audition because it was like we were like in the waiting room like four or five hours I had nowhere to be so it just so happened at me and these two other guys were the last three left we went to the room and uh we just hit it you know we just killed it in the audition and then they wanted to do a call back and I was out of town and they tried the two guys with another guy and it didn't work out so they're like we want you
And next thing you know, it was playing in every movie theater across the country TV.
I
had a I had a bunch of billboards in LA where this was up on the billboard.
Like it was crazy.
That's so fun.
Yeah.
This
was
pretty amazing.
All right.
So it's Tom Clark, our current guest and two other guys.
And this is the
One other thing I want
to
mention is during this, the night before I ended up having a burrito and I had severe stomach flu.
So as I'm doing this, if you want to know what the thought process of an actor is, my thought process during this is I have to go to the
bathroom.
Enjoy.
Go into the movies because we use movie tickets dot com.
We just buy our tickets online and pick them up at the theater.
I don't get why everyone doesn't use movie tickets dot com.
You don't.
Convenient.
Secure.
Easy.
Movie tickets dot com.
Your own personal box office.
No arm.
No, it's no arm tickets.
It's a silent
arm.
That must have been a kick.
See that before every movie, like in your friends calling and stuff.
Yeah, it was the silent are you know that the beginning and the end were all improvised So me saying it's a silent are ended up being like a hit like always got a laugh in the theaters and I had a buddy who was friends with Derek Jeter and He was went to the games with or went to the movies with Derek Jeter and he calls me this is Brody Stevens who was oh, yeah
comedian and he goes, Tom Clark just went to a movie with Derek Jeter.
He saw your commercial.
He laughed out loud.
Derek Jeter thinks you're funny.
And it's like my gun.
It was so funny.
But yeah, that was, it was amazing.
And we ended up doing a second commercial because they thought this is like, oh, this is our these are our spokes guys.
The second one didn't hit, and that was it for us.
It was cool while it lasted.
That is cool.
I remember Brody Stevens used to hang out at the Starbucks right down the street from my house at Riverside and Laurel Canyon.
And I didn't know him well, but he was part of a comic softball weekly game I used to go to.
And he was so funny.
He would just sit out in the outfield and yell, let's go to work.
Like over and over and I know he was on the best damn sports show a few times on Fox.
He was a really good guy.
That would be another special I'd recommend or you know another movie choices.
Joe Brody has a special on Amazon.
I think live at the comedy store.
And it's it's a great representation of like what it's like to go up at the end of the night at the comedy store when everyone's drunk and people are leaving and he decided to shoot his special.
And just the guts on that guy to do that.
And it's really funny.
And you'll definitely become a fan of him.
Oh, that's
great.
And just his boldness.
Now I want people to become a fan of, I think everybody listening is already a fan of you.
But just in case, you do such great crowd work, Tom.
And you're always posting videos on your social media accounts.
Where can people follow you?
And how do you recommend they follow you to see some of these clips you post?
I'm on Instagram and TikTok, Tom Clark comedy on both of those.
That's the best way to see those.
I mean, you can follow me on Facebook as well, but Instagram and TikTok are kind of the ones I want to grow a little bit more.
But yeah, I try to do at least one or two a week and there's always something silly or ridiculous that happens during a show.
that you'll enjoy.
I
love that you're so self-deprecating too.
You posted something recently where you totally wiped out going up to the stage like you did a header, I think.
Oh, yeah.
That was hilarious, but I actually thought maybe you got hurt.
Yeah, I was walking on the stage and the guy introduced me.
He said the wrong name.
He says, ladies and gentlemen, Travis Clark.
And as I'm walking up, I'm going to shake his hand.
I'm like, no, it's time.
And I just, you know,
But over tea kettle just fall on my face.
I'm down for like 30 seconds I get up you can see it on my Instagram, but It's funny then two weeks ago.
I'm working in Arizona this same guy who's lost like 30 pounds Has longer hair doesn't look anything like but this guy was there I didn't realize it was him until during the show we had talked about one of his jokes and I tried to give my tag for it didn't work.
He's like
Thanks a lot, Travis.
I'm like, how do you still not know my name?
You're still calling me Travis.
Like people said, my name's Tom.
Like he just insists my name is Tom.
Probably for the best.
Yeah.
That's funny.
I highly recommend two folks.
Google Tom stuff.
He's been on Conan.
I think you had your own Drybar special.
We played a great joke.
Your civil war reenactment joke is great.
And then how your parents were homophobes.
Oh, no, wait, they were homophobes.
That is one of the best jokes I've ever heard.
And we played that clip earlier.
But there's tons of clips of Tom all over the internet.
I highly recommend.
Check it out, folks.
And we'll have you back on before you are back in the state and try to get some butts in the seats in those Kenosha and Kiwa.
ask him shows.
That would be fun.
Yeah, I'll figure out where those are.
All right, buddy.
Hey, thanks for joining us tonight.
Great popcorn pick of the week and say hi to Steph and we'll talk soon, I hope.
All right.
Thanks Pete.
Thanks Conrad.
You got it.
Tom Clark, ladies and gentlemen, check him out.
Follow him on Instagram or TikTok.
and we'll keep you posted when he's coming back to Wisconsin.
Very funny stand-up comedian.
In just a couple minutes, folks, we will be back with our next guest, Grace Painter-Cazelle will be here.
She is an up-and-coming filmmaker and the founder of Ruby Red Films based out of Milwaukee.
That's all coming up after a very short break, and we'll read some of your texts, too.
It's Pete Schwabba at Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio
Network.
I'm out of your grip now
Welcome back.
This is a Thursday night edition of Nightlight with Peach Wabba.
I am Peach Wabba, your dedicated host, Conrad Krieger.
Writing shotgun, working the board.
But we missed, every once in a while, Bud from Janesville text us, and he is out working hard from 4 a.m.
to 6 a.m.
delivering papers, but as a retired schoolteacher.
That's right, right, Conrad?
Maybe.
Okay.
He's doing the whole Tom Clark secretive thing.
But last night, or this morning, I should say, at 5.21 a.m.
texted, I'm about to have an accident.
He said, I laughed so hard.
I was glad I was wearing black shorts.
Love your show, Pete.
Bud from Jamesville.
I vaguely remember saying that, but what were we talking about at that time?
That's a good question.
Let's go back
and
listen.
Thank you, Bud.
Bud also sent another text a few minutes later, said, Pete Schwabba, a man who entertains you when you least expect it.
Keep it up, Pete.
Love your show.
Bud from Jameswell.
Thank you, Bud.
Be careful out there.
You're getting a lot of trouble from 4 to 6 a.m.
There's a lot going on.
What do you... What is this?
What do
you... Well, we
got a new stream, a new Facebook comment.
Facebook comment?
Where is that?
What
do you think?
I have every social media thing open here.
I sent it to you.
You sent it to me.
Oh, in the chat.
Oh, that's what that
means.
Okay.
Now I got to put my glasses on again.
What is this is this from your mom?
Oh, no Monica Hale says I don't like people's cooties and have grown fond of the fist bump then opening my hand as if there was an explosion Not sure if there is a name for that.
Oh, man.
That's our question of the night folks It's national handshake day.
How do you feel about the handshake?
And what would be a better custom?
That's the question we're asking.
Thank you for the text, Monica.
We'll catch up on the text line.
We've got several to read and the stream as well.
Right now, though, without further ado, I'd like to get to our next guest of the night.
She is an up and coming independent filmmaker and the founder of Ruby Red Films based out of Milwaukee, Grace Kozel.
Grace, hi.
Hi.
Thanks for having me.
So did I say the last name right?
No, but I'm not going to blame you because even when I give people the phonetic spelling of it, they still don't get it right.
It's cozy.
Oh, it's Polish.
Oh, I
dug on it.
I saw that you had the, the O or no, the Z different.
All right.
I'm not even smart enough to understand phonetics.
Even though I asked you for a phonetics and I was an English major.
So go figure.
So cozy.
I have to
write it down.
It's totally okay.
They got it wrong at my college graduation.
So
that's horrible.
Did you go
to
Marquette?
I did go to Marquette.
I just graduated in May.
Wow.
Congratulations.
Thank
you.
All right.
So let's ease into this.
Tell us a little bit about you just graduated from Marquette.
I love that you reached out.
And it's great that we were able to figure this out.
Tell us a little bit about you for all the listeners that don't know your work and don't know Grace.
So I'm a recent Marquette grad.
I studied digital media, which is Marquette's essentially film program, but it's all encompassing.
It covers photography, videography, video editing, lighting, things like that.
And I very quickly took a liking to directing and writing.
It's kind of been a long time coming.
I grew up an actor.
I was super into musical theater, was always making movies with my brothers.
and so it actually kind of felt like a natural kind of progression into filmmaking and I basically in 2023 was like I want to make a movie but I know that it's a full-length movie and that no one is going to believe you know a 19 year old that you know you should give me money to make this movie and it's a period piece so I have to prove I have to prove
that I actually have the skill set for this.
So I decided I was going to make a proof of concept film and that was back in 2023 and it's called Bad for Me and it is a period piece that begins in 1958 and it's basically about a couple that meets in high school.
They're high school sweethearts and it transforms into a toxic relationship in the sense of there's verbal abuse, physical abuse, and it's about that era of housewives and mothers
who really had no means to get out of the situations that they were in and really lacked status in society and how many of those women existed that we've forgotten their stories.
And so we made that proof of concept and it went really well and we went viral on social media and we had legitimately an international following of women telling us
This is exactly how I feel.
This is how I feel about my grandparents.
This is what I see in my mom and my dad's relationship.
And it was very empowering, but it was also very sad at the same time that a period piece could be still so applicable to modern day.
Yeah, and from there we were like we we need to make the feature and so we've been making the feature sense and In the midst of that I'm also working on shorts.
So the short that I'm working on right now is 1980 psychological thriller and Yeah, we also went that went viral on tiktok too because we were doing an international and nationwide casting call not got actors excited Especially young women because it's a cast of five young women
So yeah, so the social media thing has been a really big part of my career.
It's kind of what I'm seeing for lots of, like a new generation of young filmmakers are utilizing this social media to break into the industry in ways that we haven't seen before.
It's kind of like you have to be resourceful in this industry.
And so that's kind of...
That's my story.
Yeah.
That's great.
My guest is Grace Cosiel.
Did I say
it right?
Cosiel.
Cosiel.
He's so close.
By the time you leave, I'll have it down Pat.
She is joining us from Milwaukee tonight over the stream and she is an independent filmmaker and a recent Marquette grad.
Grace, how do you feel about handshaking?
You know, similar to what someone said.
I'm all for the fist
bump.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I don't want a sweaty hand.
I don't want a handful of germs.
You never know if someone's washing their hands.
This bumps all the way.
I like you already.
OK, Grace Coziel is here.
We're going to talk more about her project after the news.
And she's going to tell us about Ruby Red Films.
And Grace, I have to ask you too.
I kind of missed the boat on social media.
I want to know.
How the heck do you get something to go viral?
We'll talk about all of that when we come back after the news with our guest filmmaker Grace Cosiel.
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You can still have some fun with tonight's question, folks.
If you want to get in on the action, it's National Handshake Day.
I have notoriously said I am not a huge fan of the Handshake recently.
So this is perfect timing.
The question of the night is, how do you feel about the Handshake?
What would be a better custom?
I'll tell you what would be better.
Anything than a stranger squeezing your hand.
It's too intimate.
It's an intimate act that we don't need in society.
I think we're better than that.
We've gotten a lot of great responses.
Conrad's mom checks it and says, I am okay with handshakes except for the wimpy one that makes you feel like they really don't care.
Now that would be weird though because then your mom would seem to be in favor of someone squeezing the living daylights out of your hand.
And I don't know, we'll have to talk to your mom about that Conrad.
All right.
All right.
You're okay with that.
513 says, Asia has it right with bowing.
I respect you, but please don't touch me.
Totally agree.
715, Tom says, thanks guys.
We're all class clowns at heart because Tom had a great comment earlier.
He says with love.
And Steve from Florida says, in my line of work, I have always felt a firm handshake was a sign of a good business relationship.
Since COVID, I find a lot of my customers still prefer the fist bump over the traditional handshake.
I guess I'm okay with it, but still prefer the traditional way.
All right.
There
are
no right or wrong answers folks.
There are only your answers and we'd love to receive them and we'll read them on the radio We'll get to some more texts in just a bit right now.
We're gonna jump back into this conversation.
We've got going with our guest Grace Coziel
Close very like you're like 99 one
more time say it one more time grace
Coziel
Coziel All right, cuz I wrote it right.
Yeah co-zeal zeal
It's more like oh
Cozille.
Yeah, there you go.
All right.
We are going to be lifelong friends.
You do realize that, right?
And this will be a blip on the radar, Grace.
It's great to have you here.
Grace is a filmmaker and an actress, and she is also the founder of Ruby Red Films.
How on earth?
Because I look this up, Grace, on TikTok.
You have, like, almost 30,000 followers.
How'd you do that?
Yeah.
That's a great question.
I sometimes I look at the follower count too and I'm like how how did we manage to do this and it goes back to like I said the proof of concept for my film bad for me and We really strategically paired it with trending music and I won't lie our demographics are mainly women.
It's like 88% women and so we really knew our audience and so we looked at what music women were listening to and
And the movie is very emotional, obviously, because it deals with, you know, an abusive relationship.
And so we really believe like this combination of the music with the visuals and it's obviously a period piece too.
And I think there's something that that my generation is resonating with with these period pieces, because maybe because it feels authentic or it feels refreshing.
It's not 2025 visually interesting.
And honestly, those elements came together and it really took off from there.
That's so cool.
Can people see the proof of concept somewhere or is that something you keep under wraps and just show it to potential investors?
It is on Vimeo.
If you
look
up bad for me and then you look up Vimeo, yeah.
And are you in the film too?
Are you one of the actors?
I make a very, very brief cameo, but no.
I
try to not.
really act in my own movies because it becomes very difficult.
Yeah, it is hard to do.
For a lot of
different reasons.
Yeah, for a lot of different reasons.
So do you prefer to be behind the camera?
I prefer to direct
and honest.
Yeah, yeah.
I like to be able to tell a story and look at everything and coordinate all the different little pieces as opposed to just be someone in the scene telling part of the story.
So as a director, a burgeoning director, who are your influences, Grace?
It's going to sound cliche.
I'm sure every female, young female filmmaker would tell you this, but Greta Gerwig, Sophia Coppola.
I recently watched The Substance and I can't remember the director's name.
She, her work seems to be really great, but it's very sad because when we talk about female directors, we don't
We don't have many names that we can bring up off the top of our heads.
Right.
And I feel like that needs to change.
Coralie Farragut, I think is her name.
Does that sound familiar from the substance?
Yeah, I think she's like French, right?
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.
And I love Sophia Cobble.
Are you, are you assuming you're a fan of Catherine Bigelow too?
What it was
she's great.
She I think she did the peacemaker I want to say she might have done the I think the hurt locker was one of hers, too
I don't think I've seen those
her name sounds
really familiar.
She broke ground.
She was like I want to say she was one of the first female action directors and it's silly when you it's like
why wouldn't females be able to direct action?
I mean, it's just, it's not, it's a movie.
It's not really happening.
And even if it was, you know,
yeah, she
directed the Hurt Locker, Zero Dark Thirty, a film I liked that I thought was underrated, it was called Detroit, but she's great too.
I love Sofia Coppola.
I love Lost in Translation.
Have you seen that film?
Yeah.
It's one of my favorites.
Loved it.
So all right, well, those are great influences to have.
So where do you go from now?
You've got this proof of concept.
And as someone who's raised money for a movie before, I know what an uphill battle you have.
Where do you start with that?
Especially at your age, just out of college, you don't have this huge track record, but you've got great social media presence.
You've got a proof of concept.
How do you approach investors?
So we, I will say we had to do some crowdfunding and that was just the easiest way when you have a large following and you have the support system, but you don't necessarily have these people who are willing to throw thousands at you.
That's sometimes one of the ways you can do it.
Grants are a great thing too, especially for young filmmakers.
And I will say some of the larger grants are kind of gate kept for like the indie filmmakers who are more established.
So
it's like,
well, are you are you indie or are you not indie?
And I won't lie, it is the hardest thing about making a movie is there's so many business, like you have to have a business proposal and a plan and like plan for investors.
There's so many different things that you have to all of a sudden put on your business hat and figure out how to convince people to give you money.
And I'm not going to say I'm an expert at it because I'm still learning and I'm still figuring out.
No, but that's great, and I think that to me was an eye-opener too.
I remember I wrote this script, and I had this producer who liked it, and then I had to learn about all this stuff like a business plan and insurance.
I'm like, insurance?
What?
But you need, the set has to be insured, the actors.
All that stuff, there is the not fun element of it, at least as far as I'm concerned.
Some people love the business side of it.
Do you have a good partner, someone that can help you go after money or kind of keep an eye on the other elements of the process?
I'm not gonna lie, I do end up doing a lot of those elements just because since I'm the sole owner of Ruby Red,
but
I
do have a really great group of collaborators and we are consistently working together.
And there are a lot of them are my classmates.
Some of them are not my classmates, but we've worked together a lot of us since 2023.
And we work really great together and I can always rely on them.
But some of the stuff, like you said, it's not fun.
And so it does, I do have to kind of sometimes figure it out where it's like, oh, we have to get an insurance policy for these lenses.
I
guess I'm gonna figure out how to ensure lenses and how much I need to have a policy actually cover.
But you are so, I mean, at your age, you're so far ahead of the game if you do know this stuff and if you can learn this stuff and make yourself not only for your own products, but projects, but valuable to other filmmakers where they have to bring you in, even if it's just to do post or to, you know, be a, you know, production manager.
You could have like your day job be something in the film industry, which would be incredible.
What do you do?
You've got all these followers on TikTok.
You've got almost a million
I think that's a million, a million likes.
What do you do with all these submissions?
That seems so overwhelming.
You said you get a lot of people that are trying to get seen, that are in a similar kind of boat as you, but they're trying to be actors.
How do you manage all the submissions you get?
So for our short, we received 2,000 submissions from legitimately all across the world, mainly central to the United States.
And the approach that I've tried to take is because I'm also in a similar position to them, is how can I teach them what I'm seeing from my perspective?
So obviously we have to reject a lot of people, but a way that I've kind of turned it into a positive thing is like, let me tell you what you can do to increase your chances of being picked for a project based on what I'm seeing.
And so I've tried to kind of make it as accessible to, you know, young actors or people who don't have acting experience as possible, because I really do believe that sometimes you need that helping hand of, you know, okay, well, what do I submit when someone asks for a headshot?
And
let's say I don't have a headshot.
What type of picture should I submit?
Should I submit a picture with my family or should I submit a selfie of myself in front of the wall?
And so that's the way that I've tried to
reframe it and make it as positive as possible without feeling bad.
Yeah, you know with saying no to so many people because I don't love to say no to so many people because I I see that is 2,000 people with with hopes and dreams just like me
Well, the the other alternative is you write 2,000 parts in your movie.
So I think you got to
get good at
saying no Grace.
Yeah Grace Cosial is my guest here on Nightlight right now She is an aspiring filmmaker based in Milwaukee and the founder of Ruby Red Films, which you can follow on tiktok or Instagram What is the
As far as you're concerned, and you're new to the scene, I get that, but has Milwaukee have a good film community so far?
Have you met great people there, or what's the climate like?
I've met a lot of great people, but I won't lie.
It's small.
Everyone seems to know everyone, or everyone's one degree away from each other.
Okay.
But there is a lot of momentum right now, and I will say that.
I don't know if you're familiar.
They're trying to get tax incentives passed right now.
and I've talked to a couple different people who have been a part of that movement for years and they're saying
out of all the years that they've been a part of this, this year feels like the year with the most momentum and the most interest in this tax incentive being passed.
And so I think it is a very, very supportive and tight knit community.
It's just small, but there's benefits to it being small.
You have access to more things, more connections.
So yeah, it's growing and I'm really hopeful with the tax incentives that...
Wisconsin in general could just become a hub for filmmaking.
Absolutely.
We've got Jeffrey Kurz and Nathan Deming will be on the show Monday night talking about that very topic, Action Wisconsin.
Grace, one more question for you.
What are you watching?
Can you recommend something to binge?
Okay, it's with everything I've said, this is going to be probably a curveball, but I recently finished The Righteous Gemstones, which
is on
HBO.
Sure.
And it's a comedy.
Very, very absurdist comedy.
And it's just hilarious.
And it's so absurd.
And they just wrapped up the show.
And the last episode was just like a masterclass in how you end a series.
I just, I loved it.
Did you watch that town, Red?
Did you watch the gemstones?
You know,
I've seen the first season.
I just haven't gone past that.
I have, I'm still, I gotta get the white lotus season three, but that the righteous gemstones is on my list too.
Grace, thank you so much for your time tonight.
Thanks for reaching out to the show.
It's great to meet a new budding filmmaker.
I wish you luck and don't be a stranger.
Keep us posted on everything.
Okay.
Awesome.
Thank you for having
me guys.
Very welcome.
Grace Cosial.
Yes.
Boom.
All right.
Take care.
We're coming right back to wrap things up folks.
It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media radio network.
folks.
This is Nightlight.
It's great to have you with me for a few more minutes.
Why do you sound so sad?
Well, I fell for something last night.
I'm not proud of myself.
It was quick bait.
It was on Yahoo.
It said Colin Joest and Scarlett Johansson discussed their Wisconsin home.
And they're not, they have nothing to do with Wisconsin.
They must, obviously they know I'm from Wisconsin.
Maybe they, I don't know, can they read your thoughts now, the algorithms?
You know what's crazy is I don't know.
I think about Scarlett Johansson a lot.
Not as much calling just.
Have you seen those ads?
I think recently it's a Caitlin Clark ad state farm.
And in it, she says a town name.
She says Sheboygan.
Oh.
But it's tailored towards every state.
Yeah, of course.
She just reads like 50 cities.
Yeah.
So it's a rip off and I have to admit I clicked on it and then I'm scrolling down and they make you click again And I'm like yeah, first of all, I don't even care if they live in Wisconsin.
How does it affect me?
It doesn't I don't know but I looked at like 50 I was looking it was like home prices and where people live and it's just it's nonsense a lot of money So and so's home is worth two million dollars in Malibu.
Oh, yeah, Sylvester Stallone has a two million dollar home in Malibu.
Maybe he paid that in the early 60s
That's not even possible.
It's a joke.
Folks, tomorrow night, another great show.
It's a Barman Friday night.
Terry Barr will be here with a new music and great conversation.
And we will also talk to Mary Hauser.
She is the executive director of the Plymouth Area Chamber of Commerce, and she is going to be here to talk about the Cheese Capital Festival.
This is a bash.
I can't wait to talk about this tomorrow night.
That's at 6.35.
And who knows, maybe we'll squeeze another guest in there.
I reached out to Brittany Merlot, because I want weather answers.
You want answers
now?
I want answers now.
But another great show tomorrow night.
And lots of fun next week, too.
It'll be a short week for us, but we'll give you all the details on Monday with new original shows Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday of next week.
And still a lot of fun.
Thursday, Friday, and Monday, which will be off.
So Steve from Florida says, oh, he's adding to his, I just saw this.
So your dad said he still prefers to shake hands.
He says also, thanks Conrad for bringing back a funny memory when you and your cousin got busted at the Baraboo Bowling Alley for calling 911 on the pay phone.
That sounds like a...
Like something that would happen in fast times at Ridgemont High or Dazed and Confused, call 911, dude.
He says, even though we turned the situation into a teaching moment, it still makes me laugh.
That's a great text, Steve.
Glad you got to take your dad back down memory lane.
That's pretty cool.
Bridget in the 818 says, I could do without the handshake.
I like a simple nod or the occasional elbow bump.
That's just so subversive.
Yeah, I don't think I have elbow bumps since COVID.
Yeah, same.
Bridget says, it is healthier.
Viruses are getting brutal.
Oh boy.
Thank you, Bridget, for that text.
I kind of agree.
I don't have a problem with the elbow bump.
It's a little awkward, but, you know, why not the elbow bump?
Stadietti from the 608 says, Pete, the handshake is a good way to build up one's immune system.
Stadietti is always a glass half full guy.
Yeah.
You wanna touch someone else's disgusting hand steady, Eddie, that's your prerogative.
He says, if the handshake germs don't kill you, they will make you stronger.
Me personally, as a greeting, I'm now using the finger gun, point and shoot option.
That's kind of, I just, Conrad just did it.
I know I had to do it too.
Nice to meet ya.
Yeah, nice to meet ya.
Hope to shoot ya.
A double point and shoot and adding a wink and mouth side effects.
Mouth sound effects are awesome.
So you go double pointers, a wink and a mouth sound effect?
That would really give me the creeps.
Steady Eddie says, works like a charm.
I encourage you to try it, Pete.
I'm gonna try it right now.
So it would be like a...
I feel like a really cheesy human being doing that.
Thank you, Steady Eddie, for the insights.
And then we missed a text from Dave Kunich earlier too.
He says, have you seen the new Jack Link's commercial?
Yeti meets Esquatch.
I have not.
Did they shake hands?
I don't know.
But they're already awash with germs, I would think.
Yeah, they probably don't care.
They probably don't
care.
They don't know what's going on.
So there you go, folks.
That's basically a show.
I'm trying to think if I had all this other stuff I wanted to get to.
But I think overall, yeah, overall, the worst handshake is the one when the guy's finger goes up your wrist.
And it is just so creepy.
I think it's when you're limp and then you got your hands all crushed.
First of all, you don't offer your hand limp, do you?
I know people can be like a guy you want him to kiss your hand or something.
You know, when you accidentally don't put that much pressure on the handshake,
you just get it
all crushed and you're like, well, this sucks.
I don't even like meeting you now.
I don't think there's anything wrong with at that point, too, going, look, you might as well kiss my hand since you've already crushed all the bones in it.
And there was always the 70s shake too where you would like go in like like the hey peace brother kind of and then I think it turned into a black thing where they start like that then they pull out and they put force on it.
The black community has the best handshakes.
What's what's that?
Just you know how they how they do they have all these things like you go in and the and then you snap your fingers remember that one you kind of go in with the Regular handshake it segues into like a hippie handshake and then you pull your fingers apart And you kind of hold it like this a bit and then you snap them or you do this and you snap it
okay?
I you know I do like when when you do a Kind of like a handshake, but not
really quick skin thing maybe
quick skin and and then you hug
A quick brief hug, you know.
A quick brief hug.
A barely touching hug.
A slap on the back.
I'm gonna try that on the way to my car.
I'll do some research and come back tomorrow night, let you know what I find out.
Thanks so much to Grace Coziel.
Coziel Conrad you got it Grace Coziel and Tom Clark for making the popcorn pick of the week folks It's repo man and thank you for all your texts and calls always fun when you guys participate We'll be back to do this all again tomorrow night It's nightlight with peach wabba on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad.
I'm peach wabba saying good night,
Wisconsin