The Best Couples(Hour 1)

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The Best Couples(Hour 1)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Mon Jun 16, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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And now, a guy who always reads between the lines until he sees a car coming, Pete Schwabba.

Pete Schwaba

I forgot about that one.

Hey, welcome to Nightlight, everybody.

All these bumpers are true, folks.

That is me in a nutshell.

I wear my heart on my sleeve.

If I'm joking about something, it's usually true.

I have read many books on the highway.

Great to have you here.

It is finally Monday, ladies and gentlemen.

We are back at it, and it is great to be back in the air talking about the things

We love in life, like movies and TV and comedy and theater and all kinds of fun stuff, some sports.

We've got a big rivalry happening this week, Conrad.

I thought I would get your thoughts on that.

We've got some Cubs Brewers happening.

Yeah, I'm excited to see if the Brewers can pull it off.

Think they can?

Yeah, I think we're only about four games back now, so maybe even less.

Pete Schwaba

Here's what I and I am a cub fan, but I want to I'm trying to be unbiased here and usually when I'm like that I'm coming down against my team because That's usually the way it goes, but The Brewers were red hot lately and the Cubs with soot it and kept the lead like they're playing great baseball The Cubs are for real and I feel like the Brewers are for real and I feel like it's gonna come down to those two teams

Yeah, it's it's it's looking like it

The Cubs, I didn't expect them to be this hot this year, to be honest.

Pete Schwaba

They

surprised

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me.

It surprised me too, but it's a great one.

It's great when there's a good rivalry between the Bears and the Packers, Cubs and the Brewers.

To a lesser degree, the Bucks and the Bulls, I don't think people are quite as passionate about that rivalry.

Well, the Bulls, they need some.

Oh God, I hope the Cubs wipe

Pete Schwaba

the field with your Brewers this week.

If you're gonna talk like that, young buck.

Yeah, no, the bulls have been pretty bad.

But even when they were, that's not the same as, I don't think, as the bears and the packers or the cubs and the brewers.

But that's not to say it couldn't be.

But we'll see what happens.

Some fun stuff going on this week.

We've got a great show tonight, ladies and gentlemen.

Sheri Stoka is here.

She is a nutritionist and dietitian.

from Wellness MD that is just outside of the Milwaukee area.

Sherry's been on the show before and I love picking her brain about all things health and nutrition and all that kind of stuff.

So I think last time we got a couple of texts for Sherry.

So if you have nutritious questions or dietary questions, I think she had a lot of fun answering those last time.

So share those with us if you would at 635.

Conrad, you got any questions for Sherry?

Yeah,

Kathryn Lake

yeah.

On your mind?

Pete Schwaba

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, we'll do that.

That's at 6.35.

We're going to talk a little bit about Ozympic, which she called it by the clinical name of GLP-1.

I had never heard that.

And then we'll talk about a lot of other stuff.

Sherry's a great guest coming up in about a half an hour.

And then a new guest.

I'm always excited when we have new people on the show.

Phil Krause will be here.

Phil owns the Time Community Theater in Oshkosh.

And we talked, I think it was Friday, we gave a shout out to Phil.

He was showing the Magnificent Seven last night on Father's Day, the 2016 version.

And they do some really cool stuff at the Time Community Theater.

We'll talk to Phil about that.

I think independent movie theaters are a treasure, especially when they do other things like not just host movies, but host different events too.

And we need to do whatever we can, folks, to help these independent movie theaters because

I think the people that own them, it's a kind of a passionate thing and they're very into what they do, but they need the help and I think the support of the community.

I know nothing.

You know, Time Theater, he could be pulling in 10 million bucks a year.

I have no idea.

I'm just saying in general, I would love it if we could all come together and support independent movie theaters.

So that's our show for tonight regarding guests.

We've got a great question.

We're gonna talk a little bit about, feel free to share your father's day.

Events with us, if you had a good day, the phone lines are open.

The text line is open, 855-752-4842.

Man, I don't know where to even start, Conrad.

We got a lot to get to tonight, don't we?

Well, why don't we start with the question of the night?

Pete Schwaba

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Let's talk about

Pete Schwaba

the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

Pete Schwaba

Who is the best on-screen couple?

Movies or TV folks, who do you like?

I was kind of thinking about this earlier.

I'm kind of like, I don't dislike rom-coms, but I don't really...

I don't seek them out, but I will say there was a very rom-com-y element to the show in 1923, and I loved the relationship between Brandon Sklenar's character, who was a Dutton.

And I said this before on the show, Yellowstone, I got really bored with really quick, maybe sometime in season two.

But I did like both prequels.

I liked 1883 with Tim McGraw and Faith Hill, and then I liked the 1923.

two seasons that with Harrison Ford and Helen Mirren and this Brandon Sklenauer who played a Dutton nephew.

And he gets married in season two.

And I've never really liked watching romances develop on screen.

There are some good ones.

Maybe you think Titanic with Leo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet or Greece with Danny Zuko and Olivia Newton-John.

Speaking of Olivia Newton-John, Paul Blart in his mall.

fellow mall employee, you got Ross and Rachel, Sam and Diane.

There's all kinds of couples that have graced the big and little screen.

So who is your favorite?

I'm going to say in 1923, I really liked that storyline.

It was fun to kind of watch this couple fall in love.

And I don't say that very often.

So I really enjoyed that.

I thought they were, Brandon Sklenar's character was kind of this strong silent type.

He's sort of the hero.

And then the woman he ended up marrying, whose fate did not turn out very well.

I think her name was Julia Schlepfer.

I don't know if I'm saying her last name right, but they were fun.

They were a fun couple to watch.

So let us know who your favorite onscreen couple is.

Big or little screen, TV or film, 855-752-4842.

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Would love to hear your thoughts, and we will read your text on the radio.

Con, you got someone?

Yeah, yeah.

I'm thinking Jamie Lannister and Cersei Lannister.

Pete Schwaba

The Lannisters.

Oh, they're a functional couple.

I'm just

Pete Schwaba

kidding.

That's probably the worst one.

Which one Jamie Lannister was

their brother and

Pete Schwaba

sister I Thought so she took his name or what I didn't know what okay

Bad of one from Game of

Pete Schwaba

Thrones.

I'm very compatible.

I don't judge.

You know what?

This is the 19 I

will I will say you probably know where I'm gonna go with this Lay it on me how I met your mother.

Pete Schwaba

I knew

you're gonna say that Lily pad and marshmallow

Pete Schwaba

I don't even know their nicknames.

I really don't know that show.

I got to check it out.

It's a Lillian Marshall.

Yeah

Pete Schwaba

That's what they could see the marshmallow thing That's kind of stomach-turning Lily pad you like that one we pad marshmallow.

I like Lily pad better than marshmallow God if I was like a dude and somebody started calling me marshmallow I don't think I'd like that very much.

Well, he says, you know He's kind of a big

Pete Schwaba

Is that Jason Segal's character?

Yeah,

uski guy.

Yeah, probably pull it off, but he's he's like seven foot

Pete Schwaba

He's just a big teddy bear though.

Apparently.

Yeah, we'll soft on the inside

You know, I just like I really like their development with their because they yeah the first episode.

It's Jason Segal's character proposing.

Pete Schwaba

Oh Yeah, right.

Okay,

and You know they just go through a lot of adversity through the whole show.

It's all nine seasons

Pete Schwaba

It's funny because I like I love

Cheers I'm kind of in that's cheers is like my go-to show when I'm laying in bed at night and I want to laugh before I go to sleep and Sam and Diane are so volatile and contentious That's typically the kind of couple.

I like to watch what that says about me You know my wife and I are pretty emotional people.

We have our arguments, but We had an argue jar at one point

throw a dollar into a jar when you argue.

Okay.

By the end of the year, had enough to vacation in Hawaii for three weeks.

No, but we have, we, you know, I don't mind that.

I think watching people arguing is funny.

And George Costanza and anybody he dated loved all that stuff with all his neuroses.

But I would say 1923, Brandon and Alexandra, the Dutton.

And what was her name on the show?

I gotta find this out now.

She was just Alexandra and he was Spencer Dutton, right?

Okay.

Conrad says how I met your mother no surprise there.

What do you say eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five civic Man, I'm getting more and more distracted by people that walk by the window here gelato and I want to wave I don't know if it's gelato or if it's just downtown Green Bay in the summertime, but it's sort of like It's kind of hoppin.

It's better than in the winter.

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

Well, I

mean, you know, not a lot of people want to go for a walk in the winter

Pete Schwaba

Certainly not down here

So how was your, alright, I have to ask you, because you did a, you went to a comedy show.

I did, yes.

A very filthy comedian.

Yes, I can't repeat anything he said.

It would just be bleeps.

Yep.

Pete Schwaba

Wow, that's really, that's kind of impressive.

You know, you never know what he was gonna, because I've went to his shows before and every time I'm like, I wonder if he's gonna reuse something.

Yeah.

He didn't reuse one thing.

Pete Schwaba

That's pretty impressive.

From his last

show.

And the last show I saw him was like two years ago now.

Pete Schwaba

But

he also put out.

two specials on YouTube between that time.

And he didn't use any of those jokes he used in that special either.

Pete Schwaba

And I'd say let's play a clip, but it doesn't sound like we could even pull it off here on.

I would

have to do a lot of bleeping.

Pete Schwaba

Just play a bleep and we'll get an idea of his potty mouth.

What, how long did he do?

How long was he on stage?

So it was about 50 minutes, I think.

Pete Schwaba

50?

Okay.

It was opening act.

There was a, there was a like a 15 minute opener.

Which he was pretty funny.

He's good.

He's pretty good.

Pete Schwaba

Those are the sweet spots, man.

I used to love opening because like when you open at a theater, like I opened for Huey Lewis in the news and Myrtle Beach and it's just such a sweet gig.

It's like good money.

And, you know, you don't have to do that long either.

And the crowd is there like they paid big money to be there.

They're ready to laugh.

You get no jackasses or no hecklers.

Typically, I mean, unless you really suck,

well, you would get that.

But this one says that we don't do any heckling at all or you'll be thrown out.

Where was it?

It was the improv in Brookfield.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

I know the big thing that they made a joke about it was is that it's in a strip ball and they kept talking about this in a strip ball in Brookfield.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

And I'm surprised anyone showed up.

Pete Schwaba

Well, it sounds like fun.

I had a good father's day.

Did you talk to your dad yesterday?

Well, my dad was back in town.

Pete Schwaba

He's in Wisconsin.

That's right.

Well, he's he's I believe he's on a flight right now

Pete Schwaba

back to flow back to fly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So

yeah, we went out to

Went out to dinner.

Pete Schwaba

So I said he came to you on Father's Day.

Actually, I went to Appleton and then as he was staying at my brother's house.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

Just your dad or your mom

too?

Just my dad.

My dad came back to check up on grandma.

Pete Schwaba

Oh,

sweet.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

Yeah, it was a good day.

I like to do nothing on those days.

I don't like to make decisions.

I don't like to really be taught too much.

just like to play video poker, maybe watch a movie, take a walk, play some soccer golf.

But we did go to my folks for dinner and I was glad the Cubs won yesterday.

So my dad was happy because he gets really, this is what my dad did.

And he's done this a couple of times more recently.

He's like, Pete, cause I watched the last three innings of the Cub game with him and it ended in a tie.

So I was like, well, I gotta go, you know, so I can go back later.

And he says, all the Cubs pulled it out in the 10th, pull up the highlights.

So as I pull up the highlights on my phone to put it to their TV, he tells me play by play what happened.

I'm like, dad, I got the highlights right here.

And want to watch it.

Pete Schwaba

I wanted to watch it, but he was excited.

So it was a good Father's Day all around.

Spent some time with my daughter.

She got me some nice gifts.

Lots of fun.

So I hope all the dads out there had a great day.

We are doing it Monday style here at Nightlight Folks.

We are broadcasting live from downtown Green Bay all over the beautiful state of Wisconsin on what is finally a warm day here.

Hope you're having a great day.

And we are coming back with maybe some Bill Burr.

What else did I say we might play?

Well, whose birthday is it?

Laurie Metcalf.

Laurie Metcalf.

Oh, we got a funny clip from

Pete Schwaba

her.

And we'll read your texts.

That's all coming up next on Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Pete Schwaba

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.

I am Pete Schwabba.

It is great to have you here on a Monday, folks.

We've got great guests tonight.

A really fun question.

Who's your favorite on-screen couple?

Movies or TV, it doesn't matter.

You can share either one.

I said Spencer Dutton and Alexandra from 1923, mostly because it's just current.

There's been, obviously, over the course of Hollywood, there have been some incredible...

Movie couples, Bogie and Bacall, you can go back if you want to go back a ways.

I said Sam and Diane were fun to watch just because they argued so much.

Conrad said the couple from How I Met Your Mother.

But let us know what you think.

We got our social media responses here.

If you see Rich Tellerico's response.

Well, is it?

His favorite movie couple or TV couple is Dolly Parton.

Just Dolly Parton, all right?

Pete Schwaba

Well.

Use your imagination.

Brilliant.

Thank you, Rich.

Matt Harper says, Timothy Oliphant as Raylan Givens and Natalie's, oh yeah.

Raylan Givens and Winona Hawkins.

Oh, I gotta look the, Raylan Givens is a great character.

I love Justified and I'm totally due for a rewatch, but I'm trying to remember if Winona Hawkins was his ex-girlfriend or his ex-wife.

He had like two main love interests.

That is such a good show.

And Walton Goggins was on that show too.

I think it's Natalie Zah.

I don't know if I'm saying that right.

But she was great.

And he had an ex-wife who I thought was really good too.

But great show and great text.

Thank you, Matt.

Monica Hale says, Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn on and off screen.

Okay, that works.

Boy, they've been together a long time.

Like kind of like Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward.

Maybe we'll do an off-screen couple next time.

That could be fun.

So our question is, who is your favorite on or off screen couple?

Let us know.

855-752-4842-8557-5CIVIC.

We are gonna read some texts now and then we'll get to a funny clip I found, Anna from Madison.

She's in the 608, obviously.

She says, Hi Pete and Conrad.

My favorite on screen couple is Robert Redford and Barbara Streisand in the way we were.

Yeah, they were a good one.

That's a great one, Anna.

I like the classic stuff, too.

Like the Hollywood classics are great, too.

Travis and Eau Claire, he's in the, or dialing us from the 618 or texting us, says, since you already said Marshall and Lily, I also really liked Ted and the mother.

I was so bummed by the ending, I don't think they should have killed her.

What?

Spoiler alert!

What happened there, Conrad?

Well, she got a disease, and her name's Tracy McConnell.

Pete Schwaba

On a sitcom?

Yeah, and she was played by Kristen Malody, I believe that's how you say her name.

Okay.

Um, yeah, it's, I mean, that's one of the reasons that where people are like, man, that the ending just sucks to that show.

I do remember hearing that.

And then the whole thing is pretty much like him asking his kids like, can I date your Aunt Robin?

He gets together with a sister?

No.

It's, you know, it's like one of those friendships where they call, you know, his friends like aunt or uncle, you know, they're not actually related.

Interesting.

Pete Schwaba

All

right.

I agree.

They were a good couple though.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, all right, very good.

Thank you, Travis.

Tyler from Wisconsin Rapids says, who does Tyler say?

I think his text got kind of mixed up there, so I'll come back to that one.

Tom in New Berlin says, Pete, if it comes down to Brewer's Cubs, what a joy both cities share so much.

I agree, Tom.

It is weird that we have... We're not the same state, but I grew up...

All my mom's relatives are in Milwaukee.

So I went through a ton of Brewer's games and my grandparents lived there.

My parents met at Marquette and then my dad's family was raised in Chicago.

So I'm kind of with you, Tom.

I don't get the vitriol sometimes.

It's a fun rivalry, but some people take it too far.

I think it's just kind of fun.

Tyler from Wisconsin Rapid says, Moonlightings, Civil Shepherd, and Bruce.

He said, Bruce, what's his name?

You couldn't remember, Bruce Willis?

He did correct himself with another text.

But that's a good one.

Moonlighting was a fun show.

Ed in Madison says, Beatrix, Kitto and Bill, kill Bill.

I don't remember the names, but I remember the movies very well.

Love it, Ed.

Thank you.

What did you say?

So on the social media, Monica Hale actually changed her mind.

Who did?

Monica Hale.

Oh.

What did she say?

Is that a Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn?

She said, I'd like to change mine to Miran Loy and William Powell in the Thin Man movies.

Oh, I have not seen those.

Pete Schwaba

I haven't either.

Sounds kind of morbid though, right?

Is the Thin Man a whore film?

If it is, then that's definitely why I haven't seen it.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, Monica, you need help.

Totally kidding.

Thank you for the text, Monica.

Let's Google that con and find that out.

I always like to know what the textures are talking about.

not clue it in, which oftentimes I am not.

Anna from Madison says, hi, Pete and Conrad.

Oh, we already read that one.

Jim from Appleton says, let's hop into the TARDIS and visit the best, sometimes contentious couple, Desi and Lucy's.

And Desi and Lucy, you got some explaining to do.

Let's hop into the TARDIS.

Was that their last name?

Conrad says the character from the movie and book series, Thin Man, the internet meme urban legend inspired by the character and the term used in the supernatural episode, Thin Man.

So it is kind of a horror.

It says it's 1934 is when the movie... How do I not know about this?

Detective Nick Charles and his wealthy wife, Nora, investigate a murder case, mostly for the fun of it.

Pete Schwaba

Nice, like heart to heart.

Monica, I will look more into this.

Thank you for keeping me honest.

Jack from Merrimack says, best on-screen couple, George and Gracie Burns, if you're too young to know whom I'm talking about, with second place Fred and Ginger.

I'm a really old guy.

Jack from Merrimack.

Sorry, Jack, it's good.

People should stretch their boundaries a little bit.

Look up some of those classic Hollywood couples, they're fun.

Mark from Prairie to Sac says, TV Chuck, Chuck and Sarah.

movie just like Heaven, David and Lizzie.

TV Chuck, I don't know TV Chuck.

Did you watch that con?

No.

Thank you, Mark.

All right, keep those texts coming, folks.

This is a fun question tonight.

We will come back very shortly after the news.

We're going to be here and we'll be joined by dietitian and nutritionist, our pal, Sherry Stoka.

We'll join us over the stream.

She'll answer some questions if you have them and we're going to talk a little bit about the ozempic craze.

Can I take it just for one leg?

I don't know.

Probably not.

I'm

Pete Schwaba

asking you.

Dave on the stream says Dave Kunish reposted this stream.

I don't understand that.

He reposted it.

Reposted what?

The stream.

I don't get it.

So it goes to his friends.

Oh,

Pete Schwaba

fantastic.

Love it.

Thank you, Dave.

All right, we're coming right back.

It's Peach Wabba

Kathryn Lake

Nightlight.

Pete Schwaba

First thing, if I just start dancing on the radio.

Well, I mean, if they tune into the stream, they can see a lot too.

We're grooving tonight.

It's a Monday night on Nightlight.

I am Pete Schwabba.

Welcome back to the show, folks.

It is great to have you here tonight on this first warm day, probably since last summer here in Wisconsin.

That's what we do, folks.

We live in the cold.

And this spring in particular has really sucked.

but I see us turning a corner.

I'm very excited.

I hope you're having a great day and I'm glad you're here to talk movies and TV and comedy and anything that catches our interest.

One of the things I'm very interested in folks and I don't talk about it that much on the show but I feel like it's important to talk about from time to time because you wanna live long, you wanna live a healthy life so you can watch movies and TV and listen to music into your very high 90s and 100s and here to help us do that is

My pal, she is a nutritionist and a dietitian and she is the owner of Wayless MD just outside Milwaukee.

She joins us now on the stream, Sherry Stoka.

Sherry, welcome back.

Thank you.

Thank you so much for inviting me back.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, it's a pleasure.

This stuff I could honestly, you know, people do podcasts for like three hours.

I could just sit here and pepper you with questions all night, but I know you have kids and a family and I won't do that to you, but I appreciate you giving us a little bit of your Monday night.

Absolutely.

I mean, I love talking about it as well.

And I'm all about getting information out there because I feel like there's just a lot of misinformation.

So anytime we can talk through things, I think it's amazing.

Pete Schwaba

I think it's great too.

Let me ask you something before we jump into the topic of Osempic, which I find fascinating.

Do you find that most people in your field, like they say psychologists or psychiatrists,

And I'm generalizing, but I kind of messed up themselves.

Do people in your line of work struggle with this stuff too?

And that's why they're passionate about it, or are they like fit from the get-go and just want to help people?

Oh, geez, yeah, no.

I mean, as a nutritionist or dietitian, I mean, the reason why I got into like the more of...

the integrative medicine like holistic approach is because I have me got like suffered with gut issues forever.

Kathryn Lake

And like,

that was like, a big thing for me.

And I have a lot of my clients are dietitians.

So I

Kathryn Lake

do

feel I mean, not like not the majority by any means, but I definitely feel like people, you know, within their profession, they still

they still struggle in various ways.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, that's interesting.

So what you, I know last time you were here, you talked about being a college athlete.

When did your, when did your passion hit and when did you realize you wanted to make this a career?

Yeah, I, well, I knew.

I knew that like the health and we didn't use wellness, we didn't use that term, you know, back in the day, but I knew I wanted to be in healthcare and I went into healthcare and probably 10, 15 minutes into healthcare, I felt like things were not what I had planned for, you know, because I talk a lot about just

our system and the conventional medical system and it's a bit misguided, it's a bit corrupt.

And so that's where I feel I'm big into root cause illness.

I'm big into root cause disease like let's understand the underlying condition so we can fix it rather than have a pill for every ailment.

And so I did kind of realize that somewhat.

early on, I mean, because I only spent really like 10 years in the system before I realized that I wanted to do my own thing.

Pete Schwaba

Hmm.

Interesting.

And what you do is more preventative too.

I think in some ways it's almost more important.

Like I have a great primary care physician who is focused on preventative stuff.

And I love finding people like that because I agree with you.

It's like, let's throw a pill at it or something after the fact.

But if we can prevent this stuff,

we're all going to be better off.

So let's jump in.

Like you called, I wanted to ask you about this because I have more and more friends who are AnoZempic and the commercials are all over the place.

You called it GLP One, which is the technical or clinical term, I guess.

What are your overall, and for those of you who don't know, why don't you just tell us what GLP One is for people listening?

You'd probably do a much better job with that than me.

Yeah, so GLP-1 stands for glucagon like peptide.

So the medications are agonists.

So they're designed to mimic what the body is designed to do when when we consume food.

So GLP-1 agonists just mean that we're inducing a signaling in the body that really is supposed to happen, but no longer happens.

So you're injecting

with a peptide.

A peptide is essentially a chain of amino acids.

So I mean, we could go down like a zillion rabbit holes, but I do I do tell people that because I'm against the majority of medications.

I speak about it all the time.

I think that so many things can be fixed just by tweaking certain things.

I do look at these medications a little bit differently because

In our state of health, we have diseases of modernity.

We have diseases of our environment.

The standard American diet is like highly processed.

We no longer get real food.

Our water is terrible.

We drink out of plastic.

We're full of microplastics.

So we have to adapt to that.

And the low grade inflammation that's going on in everyone's body,

is really prohibiting certain GLP signaling to happen.

So in a sense, we call it a medication, but I like peptides because I take various peptides.

I think they're super amazing, like more longevity and rejuvenation type of treatments.

But we are mimicking what the body essentially is designed to do.

And a GLP is designed to help you feel full, right, when you eat.

It's designed to slower, you know, gastric motility.

So, you know, you get certain signaling to the brain that signals appetite suppression.

But one of the main roles of these medications is to help with insulin secretion.

And the majority of people have metabolic dysfunction.

So

they're insulin resistant.

And insulin resistance is the foundation for metabolic dysfunction, meaning we can't clear sugar from our bloodstream very effectively anymore.

So these medications come in, and now we're able to kind of get the insulin to take the sugar out of the blood, get it into the cell.

so the body can use it, and now you actually can burn fat.

Because nowadays, nobody can really lose weight on their own anymore.

It's just completely changed.

Pete Schwaba

That is what fascinates me.

My guest is Sheri Stoker.

She's the owner of Wayless MD and a dietitian and nutritionist.

She's joining us on the stream tonight.

Sheri, how do you feel about that?

I'm kind of on the fence.

I feel like if people...

whatever they have to do to keep the weight off or prevent diabetes or knee replacements or whatever is good.

But where should that happen?

How much should be exhausted with other preventative measures before they go to something like Osempic or something else?

Yeah, I mean, so this is the problem because the root cause is standard American diet, right?

That's the root cause.

The root cause is obesogens.

preservatives, dyes, fillers, emulsifiers that are in our food, so it's not as easy as telling someone to just eat healthier.

You know, we work on the foundational things all the time, but now the conversation with appliances, find a farm, find local sources, eat real, we're missing

the real food component that's feeding our gut, that's causing normal functioning, normal signaling.

And so all of those things are very, very important.

And so it will take longer for you to get into a healthier state and eat healthier.

Things will eventually happen.

Now people don't have the patience for it because they get frustrated because they resort to the standard American diet, which

unbeknownst to them is not really helping because of everything that's in the food.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, and that's gotta be where you come in, I mean, or any dietitian or nutritionist.

Have you ever encouraged someone to go on something like Osempic, or are you more like, no, we're gonna see this through, you're gonna lose more weight, you're gonna do this the right way?

That must be kind of a weird line for you to walk.

Yeah, well, I mean, we offer it.

I mean, we're seeing, I see 30 people a day on these things because how I explain these medications is that they are supporting the process to better health.

So if you go on OZMPIC, and just to provide context,

Osempic, the generic is semi-glutide.

Osempic or Wagovi is the same exact product.

It's just one is approved for diabetes and one is approved for weight loss.

It's the same exact thing.

We get our product through a company pharmacy and it's semi-glutide.

The majority of our patients have major metabolic dysfunction.

addressing the root cause with the insulin, you know, the insulin part, the, the appetite suppression, people immediately say the food noise is gone.

We, it is helping support the process, but we are working on everything else at the same time.

So it's kind

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of like

crutches.

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You think about

an injury, right?

If you were to break your leg and you go on a crutch, and the entire time you're on the crutch, you do nothing to

to, to improve the healing process, you will always need the crutch, right?

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But

if you're doing physical therapy, if you're doing the things you're doing, you know, all the things to get you to a healthier state, then you can go off of the crutch, and you're, you're fine.

So it's kind of like the same exact thing.

So

Pete Schwaba

what, what about the side effects?

Are people are, and I've heard also that I had a friend who was upset because he put all the weight back on.

pretty quickly.

Like, how do you, is there a transition phase or something people can do to help?

Because that was a shock to him.

Yeah, well, unfortunately, the majority of people are who are managing people on these, on these injections are not managing them appropriately.

So number one, side effects are side effects absolutely can happen.

I mean, of what they're doing, you know, but it's a titratable medication.

So you start someone

on a low dose and you titrate, you customize it.

But the way that the pharmaceutical industry sets it up is that it's a one-size-fits-all titration.

So people are increasing their dose on these medications and they're feeling terrible.

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They're

having so many medications, but they're like, oh my God, but in one three, it's that I had to go up to this.

So the pen injects, you know, that amount, they're losing weight, they're happy, but it's

actually causing more issues because of the trauma that it's causing in the body.

So the customization and the management is so crucial.

But the other piece is that when you are losing a weight, whether it's slow, whether it's fast, whatever it is, you have to know what you're losing.

Pete Schwaba

Let's,

let's

Pete Schwaba

pick up right there.

Okay.

We gotta do a really short break.

This is great.

And we're coming right back with Sherry Stoka and we're talking about Osempic folks.

It's the big rage right now.

We're, we'll jump more into that with Sherry.

When we come back up to this very short break, this is Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

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Pete Schwaba

This is Nightlight.

I am Pete Schwab.

Great to have you with me on this Monday night.

We don't like to miss out on texts.

And Bud from Janesville, he's in the 608, drives around between 4 a.m.

and 6 a.m.

I don't want to know what he's doing at those hours.

I'm kidding, he's delivering papers.

So he often texts us during the rebroadcast and he says, hey, Pete, this came in what Saturday morning, probably right, Con?

After

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a Friday show, because

Pete Schwaba

our question...

Yeah.

He says, Hey Pete, I appreciate your perspective on Kendrick Lamar.

He made some good points.

And since you said you like him more, since the halftime show, I'm going to give a longer listen and see if I come away singing a different tune.

Thanks, well done, bud.

He says, I love the show, bud from Jamesville.

Again, I'm not the biggest Kendrick fan.

I just oftentimes my kids will explain something to me, like why I should like something.

And I'm like, okay, yeah.

And I see things through a different perspective.

So that's kind of what happened there.

But yeah, I think he's kind of cool.

We have Sherry Stoka here from Wayless MD.

She is answering our questions about health and wellness.

And we were talking about Ozempic.

Sherry, I asked you what people can do to kind of

transition awful is that because a lot of people have gained weight back and you were in the middle of a point before I had to cut to a break.

Yeah.

So I was talking about the importance of looking beyond just the weight on the scale, right?

Metabolic health is driven by our muscle mass and our lean body tissue.

So if you're not approaching weight loss in the correct way, your body will go to muscle.

And so this is the problem that the majority of people are facing.

They're going on these medications.

They're not really changing anything other than they're eating less.

And so they're not getting their body into a healthier metabolic state.

So then

of course, you know, you can actually lose weight and put yourself in a worse state of health.

And for the people that gain weight right away, that's probably what's happening.

They probably have lost more muscle mass and we can't afford really to do that, especially as we age and so that those that's kind of the result.

Pete Schwaba

That's fascinating.

I wanted to ask you this too because I know there are medications for this as well.

I had a physical recently and the only, you know, they test all your blood and all that and my cholesterol because of my age is starting to creep up a little bit, not medication worthy yet.

But what, like, what would you tell someone who came in?

Are there natural or holistic ways to bring down your cholesterol or increase your good cholesterol with just diet and exercise?

see another rabbit hole.

Like, okay.

So first of all, cholesterol and elevated cholesterol, I mean, and maybe you already know this, but I just want to say it because I feel like this is just more misinformation that's out there.

Cholesterol has is not from like cholesterol in our food.

So I just want to like debunk that I want to debunk the fact that

people say that high cholesterol is from saturated fat, like eggs and things like that.

Elevated cholesterol is from some sort of inflammation in the body.

Okay, so when you go to your doctor and your cholesterol is getting a little bit above 200 or what have you, which I think...

I don't know.

Again, I'm trying to not to go down the rabbit hole, but I just try to help people understand like statins are not the answer because it's not addressing the root cause, right?

I mean, so we're trying to get your your cholesterol down to a level with a statin that's stopping the production of cholesterol when really the root causes let's kind of figure out where the inflammation is happening in the body.

So usually inflammation is from

The standard American diet, it's usually from sugar.

It's not from the fat in your diet.

It's usually from, you know, again, eating too much sugar, eating too much breads, carbs, things like that.

And so to decrease or help get cholesterol to a...

Correct level.

It's usually looking looking at the diet and looking at like the carbs in the sugar It's not fixating on like the fats or anything like that

Pete Schwaba

So does that mean like more of a gluten-free diet would be better to control cholesterol if you didn't have carbs or gluten?

I mean not necessarily because there's a million gluten-free products out there that are terrible You know, and they're still carby.

They're just so gluten-free.

It would be more like a more like a lower carb diet

rather than like gluten-free.

So eating lower carb real foods versus finding a box on the shelf that says, oh, gluten-free, because a lot of people are very tricked by that and they think, oh, gluten-free is healthy and it's low carb.

That couldn't be further from the truth.

Pete Schwaba

So if people wanted to come to you on an official basis, Sherry, where can they find more information about you or Weyla's MD?

Yeah, well, I mean, they can certainly go to our website at waylossumd.com.

We have a lot of information there.

Setting up, you can set up a free consultation and you can also call us and it's our number is 262-226-2046.

I mean, we're on social media just to get a sense of the messaging that I'm putting out there.

Yeah, so multiple ways.

Pete Schwaba

I'm trying to think, can we keep you for a couple minutes after the news?

Of course.

All right.

Pete Schwaba

Let's see.

We got about a minute before the news.

I'm trying to think of what I can ask you.

Have there been diet trends?

Like, you know, first it was low carb, then it's high protein and all this stuff.

What should people avoid?

Should they avoid all those altogether and count calories and eat more whole foods?

Or has there been a craze that you've kind of been, or a trend where you've kind of been, yeah, that one's okay.

I do like a couple things, but again, it's all about getting the baddie into a healthier state.

Otherwise, none of them will

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work,

right?

So like you, I think you had put a couple of things out there like the, like a vegetarian, the keto.

intermittent fasting.

They're all good short-term and they all have their little, they all have their nuances.

I try to get, one of the main things that I do in the most simplistic way is get people to eat whole foods and you have to go organic.

There's controversy with that but your chances are it's going to be better than the alternative.

and to stop eating so frequently.

We have to extend the period of time between meals.

So intermittent fasting a couple times a week is usually where I will start with people and start from there and Whole Foods.

Pete Schwaba

I love that you said that.

We can talk more about that too.

Sherry Stokas here from Whaless MD.

We're going to do intermission folks and she's going to stick around for a couple minutes of act two.

We're coming right back.

This is Pete Chihuahua on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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