Grilling Pizzas and Cybersecurity Secrets(Hour 2)

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Grilling Pizzas and Cybersecurity Secrets(Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Thu Jun 12, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay, this is Night Light with Pete Schwabach.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

A guy who once tore his ACL playing chess, Peachwaba.

Pete Schwaba

It's true, folks.

I'm a very intense chess player.

One of these days, I need to hear that story.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, it's bad.

They had to cart me off.

But I gave him one of these on the way out.

I put my thumb up and all the old guys in the park cheered.

Hey, it's nightlight with Peachwaba.

Folks, we're kicking off act two.

And if you were not here for hour one, you really

He really should have been folks.

We had a great time.

We have a great question tonight Who name a celebrity whose fame you just don't get I said the Kardashians.

I also don't totally get Mark Wahlberg Conrad said Fred Yes, Jenna.

Do you remember Fred?

No, I don't he's

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the kid with like the

really high-pitched voice

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He was unlike

Nickelodeon and

okay,

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okay, I cannot believe he is still that

People just don't give him a beating regularly because he was that annoying.

Well, that was the catches that his neighbor did do that.

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Really?

I'm not

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advocating violence.

I'm just saying he was very irritating.

So that's our question tonight.

Folks, let us know who what celebrity is, you know, you just don't get.

You don't understand their fame.

So we did that.

We talked with our friend, Jenna Watkins, who is here.

She gave us the popcorn pick of the week and chose the film, Miracle, right?

Yes.

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2004, about the 1980 Olympic hockey team that from USA that beat the Russians.

Great pick.

And we talked about beauty, is it beauty pageants?

Scholarship competitions.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, that's what it is now?

Yep.

Scholarship competition.

It's focused on scholarship and service.

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OK, so Jenna has been Miss Harbor Cities and Miss Turtle Creek, and she's competing for Miss Wisconsin.

And that happens next week, right?

Yes.

Coming up.

Yes, I had off on Sunday.

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Wow.

All right.

Do they put you up?

Yes, they do.

Yeah.

All right.

Which is very nice.

Pete Schwaba

And how do you... All right.

So, Jenna and I, just to recap, we met last year.

We both judged a costume contest at Sputnik Fest in Mantelwalk, thanks to our co-worker here, Amanda Nimmer, who set that up.

That's where I met Jenna.

And we brought it as judges.

I think we did a bang-up job.

I have not been asked back yet, but I don't know if

you... I think they should ask us back.

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You think they will?

I don't know.

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Conrad, what are you doing?

Why don't you go down there and judge some alien

costumes?

Oh, I thought you wanted me to be in a costume.

I mean, that would work, too.

Would it

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kill you to dress up in disguise

every

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once

in a while?

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Yeah.

All right, so Jenna and I were talking about the pot.

She made the popcorn pick.

We talked about Miss Wisconsin.

Her day gig, folks, is she does cybersecurity.

And I find that fascinating.

And I love how you tie that to the Miss Wisconsin competition because

As you mentioned in the first hour, you had your identity stolen at 16.

What was that like for you when you found out?

And how did you deal with it?

How did you get it back?

You know, Pete, the day that it happened, it felt like the worst day of my life.

I wanted the ground to just swallow me whole.

I had no clue what happened.

My bank account was emptied.

Wow.

But looking back, I can now say that that was the best day of my life because it gave me direction when I needed it.

I mean, who's in high school and they know what they want to do, right?

So I was trying to figure that out.

And once the initial turmoil was done, I got angry.

And I'm like, I never want to feel this way again.

And what's more, I never want anyone else to feel that way too.

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And

that's just what threw me.

into cybersecurity.

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So how do you go about and I have a similar story.

I'll just tell you, my daughter, we went to file our taxes two years ago and someone got her social security number and filed on her behalf hoping to get a refund.

And we were told that this happens a lot with kids.

They don't make enough so they fly into the radar.

And if somebody can get a couple hundred bucks or whatever in a refund, they do that.

So we had to get it.

Now we have to get a pin from the IRS every year for like five years or something like that.

It doesn't sound like it was as traumatic as you, but it's a pain and it's like, and you get, you feel violated.

So how did you, talk us through your recovery from that?

Where do you start?

Do you have to go down to the DMV?

Do you have to go to the Social Security office or all of the above?

So thankfully, if you can say that with identity theft, it was only my bank account that was

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stolen.

So they got my debit card and they emptied out my entire bank account.

They didn't.

they weren't able to access any information.

So it was a lot of working with my bank, signing affidavits, working with them and be like, no, I'm not in Texas buying a $6,000 TV.

So it was just a lot of meetings and a lot of signing things that I really didn't understand.

I still have no clue what I signed to this day, but eventually the bank got my money back, which is...

What we wanted, yes.

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How much did you have at 16 in the bank?

I probably had about nine bucks.

Did you get...

Between six and $8,000.

That was like college saving.

Where does a

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16 year old get that kind of money?

I was taught to save by my parents.

And so what my parents told me is every time that I would get money for a birthday or Christmas, Easter, they would say, now you can either buy...

whatever I wanted at that time, like a teddy bear, gaming console, whatever.

Or you could go to college.

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Okay.

And I'm like, okay, I need to save my money for college.

So I didn't really spend any money.

Oh

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man.

Yeah.

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So here you are.

Okay, you got this great job.

You're packing all this money away.

You're Miss Wisconsin.

Tell us a skeleton you have in your closet.

We need to find a chink in the army here for Jenna.

I truly hate creating passwords.

Pete Schwaba

It's my least favorite thing to do.

Well, that's all you're going to give us.

I guess I'll take it.

So let me ask you this about cybersecurity.

What can basic everyday people like Conrad and me, what can we do to protect ourselves that doesn't cost us a ton of money?

What's a simple thing we can do to protect our identities?

Turn on bank and credit card notifications on your phone.

because this way you'll get that notification to your phone anytime that money is deposited, anytime that money is taken out.

So it's a very easy way, no cost whatsoever for you to keep an eye on those financial services.

No

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kidding.

So, and that's a simple fix and they'll, but here's the thing, here's why I think people get lazy because if you tell a credit card company or your debit card, hey, I was stolen, they just give you your money back.

It's real, the onus is really on them.

Right?

Yes.

Yeah.

But I bet, like, do you encounter a lot of people or have you heard this where a lot of people have been stolen from and they don't even know because they take minimal amounts out?

Does that happen?

Oh, all the time.

So how it normally happens is if your credit card is for sale on the dark web, someone buys it and they'll first do a purchase that's a couple of cents, a couple of dollars just to make sure that the card works.

And then once they verify that the card works, they wait a little bit, and then they go on this huge spending spree, trying to get as much stuff before the credit card company can flag it.

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Wow.

So wouldn't there be a worry there if you were the thief that you have to spend right away?

Because it seems like a lot of people are on this stuff.

notice a day later, but that's it.

What is that turnaround time where they get the card and they test it and they wait and then they spend?

It's normally around like a day to a week.

It all depends on who has it.

I mean, I don't know if you've ever gone to a gas station and like swiped your card and then within a couple of hours, there's a transaction down in Tennessee.

Well, that's because someone put, it's called a skimmer.

It's a very thin plastic cover over where

you put your card in, or where you tap your card, and it immediately stole all of your credit card information.

What?

So then they use it right away because they know that the card is active.

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Oh, my gosh.

The best way to circumvent that, by the way, is before you put your card in, just give it a really quick tug because it's very thin plastic, so it's going to come off.

And it needs to have a really quick install.

To pull the

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actual plastic out?

Don't.

wreck the machine.

It's just like a little like, okay, we're good.

Pete Schwaba

Wow, that's interesting.

Let me ask you this, Janet.

Sometimes when I go to a gas station, I'll put my card in and they'll say, remove card rapidly.

Do you know what that's about?

I've always wondered.

I've even talked about this on the air, like why?

Are they hoping not to read the numbers?

Why do they want me to pull my card out so fast?

I don't understand that.

So on the back of your card, that black strip is magnetic.

And so it actually says your card information three times.

So you need to, to my understanding, this isn't super my area, but this is just my understanding.

You need to pull it out super fast.

Then you have that magnetic connection, which transfers the information.

Pete Schwaba

I always wondered about that.

You don't see it everywhere.

It's just, let me ask you this.

I have typically my own personal security.

This is my my down home spun cybersecurity plan was to put my passwords in an email and just never send it.

Keep it in my drafts folder.

How am I at risk for doing that?

Is it not as an ingenious plan as I thought it was or what?

What happens if your emails hacked?

Pete Schwaba

Well, how would that happen?

Maybe you click on a link.

Maybe you respond to a text person.

Maybe your Facebook or Instagram or.

X account is hacked, which is linked to your email.

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Yeah, I guess so.

Yeah.

Okay.

How about instead?

That was

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supposed to be my gotcha question.

How about instead you use something that's called a password vault.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

And there's many of these online.

They're free, key pass, bit warden, one password, last pass, or just to name a few.

Yeah.

All you need to do.

And this is my trick.

This is my trick is you just need one super strong password.

Think a sentence as your password instead of just like a word.

And then you can store all of your passwords in there.

And then as long as no one knows what your sentence password is, they can't get your passwords.

And what's even better is these password faults generate secure passwords for you.

So you never need to create passwords again.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

Yeah, that's interesting.

I always opt just to do my own so I can remember it.

But my guest is Jenna Watkins.

Folks, she is in the competition.

She's in the conversation for Miss Wisconsin.

It all starts next week.

She's currently Miss Turtle Creek.

She's been Miss Harbor Cities.

You know, we've never had a Miss Nightlight Conrad.

I

think that's a change.

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Well, that Todd was for a week, but it was like,

that was

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just interim.

He had the interim title.

Who is

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the title now, me?

I guess you go all by default.

Yeah.

I'm not really happy about it.

I didn't even win.

It's my show.

Conrad

won the competition.

Yeah, that's broke competition.

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So now we're talking cybersecurity.

I have to ask you this.

Okay.

I was going to do this as a bit on the show.

Sometimes I get a text and they'll say, are you still at the office?

It's random.

So I like to start conversations with these people.

And I say really inane stuff.

Sometimes I'll even say stuff that's kind of dirty because I'm testing them.

And the most recent one is I told this girl who sent me a picture, and it's always some pretty 25-year-old Asian girl.

And I say, oh, my name is Tristan.

I'm going through a divorce.

My wife is trying to take all my, like, I let them know I have a lot of money, and I'm successful, trying to get them to come out.

So I have something to talk about on this show, and they never do it.

So what are they doing?

What are they trying to do?

Trying to get money, I assume, right?

So the first thing that they're doing is by sending that first text message.

They want to see if someone's on the other end of that phone number and if there will respond.

So what's probably happening is with you responding, you're going to get more of these texts.

Right.

So if you want them on your show, I guess that's a good one.

Well, I don't want

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them on the show.

I want something to talk about.

And I, you know, look, I'm not opposed to, no, it's really strange.

Can they hack me, though?

If I'm just texting them back and forth, am I at risk in any way for them accessing...

If I don't give them

any... If they send you a link and you click on it, if they send you any attachments, if you open up a picture that they send you, that might include malware, so...

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We're in a gray area.

No, I'm kidding.

I

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would never do that.

It's a lot better to just delete them, but...

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I wish you so much luck.

I hope you're the next Miss Wisconsin.

You're already Miss Night Light.

Conrad is giving up the title.

You are our Miss Night Light.

And I hope we get to judge another contest together.

This was fun.

Yes, absolutely.

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Drive carefully.

You got a long drive.

And take the sash off before you drive and replace it with a seatbelt.

OK, we are coming right back.

We're cooking pizza on the grill, folks.

And maybe we'll get to eat some.

We'll see.

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Pete Schwaba

Great to have you with me on this Thursday night.

It is the Christmas Eve of weekdays, as I call it.

And we are back now with my next guest, Danny Bame.

He is a Papa Murphy's pizza owner.

He owns, I don't, could, would you consider yourself a mogul?

No.

Come

on, you

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own multiple Papa Murphy's though, right?

Yep, the Appleton area, Green Bay.

There's 10 stores in that area and then Manitowoc.

West Bend, Janesville and Fort Atkinson are stores that that we own but there's 80 in the in the state with a bunch of other owners as well.

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You know what's funny is I'm kind of mad at myself because my wife loves Papa Murphy's.

I mean I like it too but

We get it a lot to take it home because we're going to watch a movie three hours later and we don't want to go back out or we don't want to pay delivery fees or whatever.

So she brings it home and she got us into it about 12 years ago.

And I was a little suspicious at first because the last name was Murphy and it wasn't something Italian.

But it worked out great.

It's delicious pizza.

It's great to have you here, Danny.

And who else do we have here?

My name is Nicky.

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Nicky, nice to meet you.

I'm Pete.

Nice to meet you, Pete.

All right.

So, what do you do, Nikki?

I make the pizzas.

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You make the pizzas just here or at the store?

I work at the stores.

Okay.

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She runs some stores in Appleton for us.

Oh, fantastic.

Okay.

So, I make that dough fresh for you.

I chop your veggies nice and fresh every day.

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Wow.

That's a good, she's got the sales pitch down there.

There you go.

That's why she's here.

All right, so Danny Bame is my guest.

You own, you said five in Green Bay?

Yep.

Five in Appleton.

Two in Depeer.

Okay.

Two in Green Bay and then Howard as well.

Wow.

How busy is that?

He's just like going back and forth between stores all the time or how does that work?

Just got some, I live two hours south.

So we've got great people up here that run the stores and.

come up to help when needed, but we're lucky to have great people in our stores.

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How did you get into this line of work?

What made you want to buy into this franchise?

I guess

that's how it worked.

I had two friends that owned three stores originally, Derek and Ryan Stromer, my partners.

And then, yeah, we just have grown in acquired stores in Appleton, then Green Bay recently, like three years ago, four years ago.

So, yeah.

All right, you sold me.

I want in.

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Yeah, I've got 32 bucks in an offshore account.

Where's the

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chip?

OK, so you guys are nice enough to show up here tonight.

We got all different kinds of pizzas here from Papa Murphy's and you're grilling them.

When did this become a thing grilling pizza?

Yeah, grilling

pizzas the best way.

Oh, wow, does that look good?

Yeah, that's a barbecue chicken pizza right there.

I love that.

The smoky flavor you get from the grill or.

is unmatched in a regular oven.

So grilling pizzas is a great way to do it in summer.

And obviously our pizza is good for winter when you want to turn the oven on, heat the house up a little bit.

But in summer, when you've got to have our pizza, this is the best way to do it.

Pete Schwaba

That looks fantastic.

And that's a barbecue chicken pizza?

Yep.

OK, what pizza goes the best on the grill?

What are the easiest ones to grill?

They're all easy.

They're all easy.

But that one gets the little summer flavors in there with the barbecue sauce.

And the chicken, yeah, and the

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veggies.

What did the instructions come on the package to grill, too?

To grill, there is some instructions on the package.

My two cents would be to cook them low and slow so we don't burn the crust.

And then, yeah, just keep rotating it and keep it around 400 or 500 degrees.

425 is what we say for the oven.

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But

grill is obviously hard to dial in sometimes.

So what is your favorite?

pizza that you guys offer.

I love the Thai chicken.

That's a... Which one is that over here?

The Thai chicken.

Who's clapping for Thai chicken?

Todd.

Todd Michaels.

Oh, I like that.

That's the middle one right there.

That's a true Papa Murphy's lovers love the Thai chicken.

That's a secret gem on the Papa Murphy's menu.

Pete Schwaba

So all right, so how did you...

give us a little background if you would Danny about Papa Murphy's like I feel like it is it the franchise about 25 years old maybe 25

30 started out on the west coast and has moved out this way but yeah we have some stores that have been here probably about 20 25 years some of the older stores in Wisconsin

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okay yep

but

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how many like

What makes Papa like if you I'm sure you've done this a million times, but why Papa Murphy's and why not Pizza Hut

or

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Domino's or whatever what

makes Papa Murphy's it's the fresh exactly what Nikki was saying the freshness of our ingredients is unmatched We don't get anything in bags from a vegetable perspective The freshest meats that don't have fillers and bindings in them and we make our dough fresh every single day And that's the the secret recipe.

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Does it cost more to do

that?

To do it

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like to take

all those ingredients or we also don't have the ovens in our store to cook the food for you So we put that money into the wash the ingredients.

Yeah,

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so people don't even they can't even get it cooked there if they want you're unwilling to do that.

Okay Unwilling.

Yes

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Listen, I'd love to help you out.

I'd love to make your pizza for you, but we don't have that

here.

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Yeah So how many are you the only owner of the stores in this area?

No,

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Ryan and Derek are

partners with

my I'm sorry not

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but I mean are there other Papa Murphy like we have one

in

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Marinette I know different owner okay different owner all the owners get along all the time yeah we're one big

happy family are you

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all named Murphy that's when I

got a couple dogs that I know they're named Murphy around my world but that's about it so how often do you eat Papa Murphy's at home

Well, I have a eight-year-old, six-year-old, and a three-year-old.

So they love pizza for a while.

They only liked Costco pizza and didn't like ours.

But now we're getting them into our pizza that they love our Excel and Y pizza.

It's a sausage and pepperoni pizza that we do.

Yeah, we're going to start eating more and starting to eat more and more.

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We have my last guest, Jenna Watkins is here, and I can tell she wants a piece of pizza.

Can you stop staring, they're delicious.

Help yourself, right?

I mean, she could be Miss Wisconsin.

Yeah, we're

absolutely.

We

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will be.

So what is

this one you're going to make?

This one is pepperoni, green pepper and onions.

Just a good staple.

Do you

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have a favorite?

I'm

a classic cheese eater, sir.

Just cheese

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pizza.

Fresh.

We shred that fresh every day, and it's tasty.

I'm born and raised dairy farmer here from Wisconsin.

Really?

So I do have to show the June is Dairy Month.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

But a good old fashioned cheese pizza, you can't go wrong.

Our sauce is delicious.

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I could not.

agree more that's fantastic right we're gonna take a very quick break for some news when we come back folks i'm gonna i'm gonna tell you what my favorite pizza is what uh... danie is cooking here tonight we're cooking pizza it's nightlight with peach wobble we're out in the street and everybody staring look at look

at people taking

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pictures not just people who work here either but we're gonna eat some pizza when we come back and we're gonna do that uh... prontos don't go anywhere this is peach wobble nightlight on the civic media radio

network

Welcome

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back to Nightlight!

Hi, I'm Pete Schwabbe.

Great to have you with me on this Thursday night.

We are outside the studio doing things a little differently tonight.

On this Thursday evening, it is a overcast, slightly windy day, and we thought that was the perfect time to go outside and eat some pizza from Papa Murphy's on the grill.

Danny Bame is here.

Nikki is here.

Ooh, should that be off the...

I was getting a little crispy there.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, I like that.

Okay.

Danny Bame is the owner of several Papa Murphy's.

pizza places and he is here with a grill.

We're grilling pizza.

I know.

Not saying people haven't heard of that, but I bet a lot of people haven't tried it yet.

Thank you for being here.

It's great to have you here, Danny and Nikki helping

out.

Yeah,

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former dairy farmer turned pop up perfis, popper, Murphy's employees.

So that's outstanding.

I am eating a piece of barbecue chicken pizza.

And it is outstanding.

So why does pizza taste better on the grill than it does when you cook it in your kitchen?

Yeah, go ahead, Nikki.

She's the girl master today.

So she can speak to that.

I believe love and happiness always makes everything taste better.

As you can see, I've been out here skipping around.

Happiest can be.

But also it is going to be, I believe, our freshness.

Yeah.

All these pizzas were made by hand just before we came here.

Right.

You know, so this is all dough that was prepped and made this morning.

Our meats, our veggies are all fresh from today.

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And that's kind of the Papa Murphy's thing, right?

Absolutely.

I remember

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when you guys first came about and

My wife was like, we got to go there.

It's all fresh.

And we were into this whole fresh thing.

And you can see people making them when you go in.

That's what I like.

Right?

Yes.

And then you pair that with the grill and the smokiness you get from the grill.

It just gives it that extra flavor that

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you got.

When did you guys like when did the grilling with pizza start?

When did that phenomenon take hold?

I think people have been grilling pizzas for a lot longer than we used to do a lot more things in the parks and where we would just grill pizzas for people for different events.

COVID and that stuff took some of that away.

We're going

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to try to

rebuild that back up.

But yeah, no, we've been grilling pizzas from Papa Murphy's world for a long time.

It's just spreading the word because we've got to battle hot dogs and brats and all that stuff.

Yeah, right.

Why not pizza?

We've got to throw pizza on the grill every once in a while.

Pete Schwaba

I think you could probably, people have been doing this while you're probably going to a cave and there'd be cave drawings with people putting pizza on the grill like that.

But you guys do a lot of other stuff.

You ate great pizza.

Now we're making it on the grill.

We're eating it on the radio, which is probably a little rude, but it tastes too good not to eat.

Talk about what you guys do in the community.

Yeah.

Yeah, we do fundraisers weekly with all of our stores.

Anyone that we have big banners in our stores that got our email address.

It's PMWisconsinatgmail.com.

If anybody wants to.

Sign up for a fundraiser with us.

We'd be happy to do it.

We do fundraisers where you bring people into the store and you just market it to your people, and then we'll give you a kickback based on the sales of the day.

Or else we do some that we've raised in the thousands, $2,000, $3,000 for people if they want to take our pizzas and do a pizza sale.

A lot of options.

That's

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so

cool.

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So what were you doing, Danny, before you got into the pizza racket?

What was your profession?

I've been doing this for 10 years.

So just out of college was not a great time.

It was about 2009.

So bad things were happening in 2009.

So but got a job in marketing, did that for three, four years.

And then, yeah, like I said, we had had some friends that were looking to expand in the Papa Murphy's world.

So we bought bought into some extra other stores together.

They had a couple.

And then when I came on, we bought some more and just have just been growing little by little since then.

Pete Schwaba

So you bought into a franchise, you're still a young guy when you do this, what put you over the hump, so to speak, where you're like, yeah, let's do this.

I mean, it's a risk with anything.

Yeah.

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But did you, was it one of those things like where you believed in the product?

Young and stupid.

No, I believed in the product.

A little bit of both, probably.

Yeah.

I loved the product, wanted to do something, you know, something for ourselves and grow a business together with some friends.

And yeah, it's worked out great.

Yeah, so I asked sorry go ahead.

No, I

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asked you this in the last segment What in that Nikki?

I know you're not allowed to answer this.

This is a question.

What makes Papa Murphy's?

Like why why would you tell people to eat your pizza or order your pizza because some people don't want to cook it themselves So it's got to be that much better in order to get them to do that, right?

I know that's what got us into buying it or my wife So yeah, so

why Papa Murphy's it really I mean it is the freshness of the ingredients the dough that we make every day even just a little stuff like

A lot of people get cheese in bags that's already shredded that's got paper in it and whatever to keep it spreading from clumping together.

We shred all of our cheese every single day.

Shred cheddar, shred mozzarella, but that just all that all the extra little steps that we do make that finished product come out.

Look at that.

Pete Schwaba

That's a Thai chicken pizza.

Folks, we're making radio history.

I don't think a Thai chicken pizza has ever been A, cooked on the radio, and B, eaten.

And I am going to mow that sucker the next break.

We'll cut that up.

Sir Papa Murphy's, check him out.

Need a

Pete Schwaba

slice?

Need a slice?

He doesn't trust us.

So you have also a, I know a lot of people are watching what they eat more and more, even though they eat.

Good ingredients.

They might have a lactose intolerance or something like that.

You have a cheese-free or dairy-free cheese.

How does that work?

Go ahead, Nicky.

So it is a made item that we do purchase and bring into the store to have available for those people that do have certain allergies or just want to eat healthier It is made, but it still comes in fresh.

We get it every few days.

It's very popular We also have a gluten-free option that one is by far a

The best option, it's a good bang for your buck, but it's also really tasty.

We've heard a lot of people can't find a delicious gluten-free crust.

Yeah.

And from what I've heard, ours are really

Pete Schwaba

good.

And even as early as like, well, three or four years ago, the gluten stuff was so expensive.

And now it's come down a little bit.

But what is it about?

Why is it, is that harder to make a gluten crust, a gluten-free crust, I should say?

Yeah, we partner with Ooty's, they're a big gluten-free brand.

Okay.

But they do a great job with that crust to make, to pair with our ingredients, the best way to make it a great item for people that do prefer the gluten-free.

Pete Schwaba

Would you be able to tell the difference

if something was gluten-free?

It's close.

Yeah, you can, but it's a little, I mean, it's just, obviously it doesn't have the gluten-type properties, but it's also healthier for you, but it's, I mean, if you didn't know, you...

would just be like, this is a great pizza.

Pete Schwaba

Do you have an extra gluten crust?

I want more gluten.

You're eating it.

That's the normal one.

It's

a normal.

Tasty one.

Pete Schwaba

Danny, let me ask you something.

Do you like movies?

I like movies.

Yeah.

All

right.

I've been watching a lot of kid movies lately, but we got kids.

Well, eight, six and three.

Oh, my gosh.

So yeah, that's all.

They like their pizza grilled.

They haven't had a grilled pizza, so we'll have to get them on that.

OK.

So what movies do you watch with them?

Pete Schwaba

Oh, you have like a favor or one that they you hope they recommend

with them.

You see everything.

We're a big Santa Claus kick for a while.

So we love Santa Claus.

Now we're trying to get him back into the cool movies that I used to watch when we were little.

So yeah, all the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles stuff that all makes another comeback and they love that.

But are

Pete Schwaba

they

are they Toy Story fans?

Do they like that whole franchise?

Yeah, we've watched Toy Story many, many times, all four or five or six of them, whatever.

Pete Schwaba

So this is like the greatest like when I grew up, it was always Friday.

pizza

in

Pete Schwaba

movies at home and when I was a kid there was like three channels so it was like the movie the week or whatever it was and then VCRs came out and all that kind of stuff but that is to me more of a thief citizen's arrest no I'm just kidding

oh he's got the beer he's clear all

Pete Schwaba

good I didn't mean to scare you thank you sir he said Papa Murphy says the best look at that and not just because we gave him free pizza either yeah but hello

So I think that's like as much of an American tradition is Friday or Saturday night, pizza night and movies and we talk about movies every night on Night Light and TV shows and what you binge watching that kind of thing.

What pizza would you like?

What are your favorite kind of movies?

I

Pete Schwaba

like

action movies.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

Like do you have a favorite like the Mission Impossible

stuff?

Yeah, Mission Impossible love them.

Born Identity.

Born Identity series.

Yeah, I love watching those.

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

What pizza goes best with an action movie?

I would go...

I mean, I think a Thai chicken is just the way you gotta go.

So that's just my favorite pizza.

So I could eat that one with the romance or I could eat that one with an action film.

All right.

Pete Schwaba

And what about you, Nick?

Do you have a favorite type of movie genre or something you like?

We just did the popcorn pick of the week.

I'd love to add like a pizza pick of the week because pizza, popcorn you eat at the theater, but people when they watch movies at home, they make pizza, right?

So

what is your favorite kind of movie?

We get a little sponsorship for it.

Pizza pick of the week.

Pete Schwaba

Pizza pick of the week.

I love

it.

I like a little bit more of that scary gory horror stuff.

I like that,

you know, you got to be under the blanket.

Yeah.

OK.

You got to scream with the greasy fingers and

sauce all over looking like what?

Are you still under the

Pete Schwaba

covers at your age?

Your leg is that

how you

Pete Schwaba

watch

scary

Pete Schwaba

movies?

Of course.

Pete Schwaba

So what's your favorite kind of?

Maybe not a red sauce.

If you're going for the gore, maybe you go with a nice garlic sauce or something.

Absolutely.

We actually have an oil and garlic sauce.

We have our herb chicken metatraining in.

It comes with the feta cheese.

And then it also has our little secret zesty herbs on the top, which are my new found favorite.

I've been putting them on our salads.

And

it is just prime

time.

I forgot about the salads.

Tell

us about

the salads.

You guys have excellent salads,

too.

Yeah, so we have a couple that are...

You know, all available at all times.

We like to make them fresh for you.

You can build your own.

That's kind of my jam right now.

I like to build my own with my fresh toppings.

You can also put meat.

So like chicken is a big option.

Um, but yeah, the zesty herbs, we have a cheesy blend too.

I like to throw a little bit of that in there as well.

Just makes it a little different than the same old, same old.

And then it's still healthy, you know?

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

So all right.

So when I was a kid, I remember a lot of people liked milk and pizza.

Like, I don't know if it was the tomato sauce with the milk.

Me, it's Coke.

Coke and pizza.

Some people beer

and

Pete Schwaba

pizza.

What's your favorite drink with pizza?

Yeah, I'd either go with a good old Wisconsin old-fashioned or a spot of cow or something.

Old-fashioned's good.

What about you, Nikki?

A glass of milk with ice.

I like my milk on ice.

Pete Schwaba

We got to go to a break.

I

can't.

I

Pete Schwaba

don't think I can.

Milk with ice?

Yes, delicious.

Wow, with

Pete Schwaba

pizza.

Yes, and a bowl of ice cream at the end.

Pete Schwaba

No kidding.

Yes.

Pete Schwaba

I like that.

That's almost subversive in a way.

I think the government should have a file on you.

Oh, I thought we

were going to

Pete Schwaba

lose the barbecue chicken pizza.

Should we offer them pizza?

I don't know.

What are you

Pete Schwaba

doing, folks?

You guys want a piece of pizza?

It's free.

OK.

They don't know us, though.

We're all, like, wearing

civil.

If you had, like, a

Pete Schwaba

Papa Murphy's t-shirt on, maybe they'd go, oh, it's an accredited pizza place.

OK.

I

Pete Schwaba

knew they could see it.

Oh, there you go.

They hang like this on the wall.

All right.

We are live out on the street here, folks, outside the Nightlight Studios here at WGBW on Washington Street in beautiful downtown Green Bay with Danny Bame and Nicky from Papa Murphy's.

Danny owns several Papa Murphy stores.

You're not a mogul, though.

You made a point to say you're not quite a mogul yet.

How much do you make if I bought that pizza?

How much of that's going into your pocket?

Oh, four cents.

So we

get very low margins.

Pete Schwaba

I appreciate you now being here even more.

You're walking out of here with 16 cents.

That's not, and you got to drive back to Milwaukee.

So Danny Bayman's here.

He owns several Popham Murphy's here in the Green Bay, Fox Valley area and in, uh, where it appeared Green Bay, Appleton and then Howard Howard.

Okay.

What is going on with Howard?

That is like everybody's moving to Howard.

There's a lot of stuff going in Howard.

You had to go there, right?

You had

to put a store there before everyone else.

Everyone's up there.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

I don't get it.

Where do you live, Nikki?

Are you

I'm from the Appleton area.

I live right by the airport there.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, so you guys don't work together on a daily basis?

We talk together on a daily basis.

A

Pete Schwaba

little too much for your liking, Nikki?

No, I try not to bother him.

I feel bad sometimes.

Are we segueing to employee relations with your boss?

Have you ever won employee of the month?

Every month

every month.

She's

Pete Schwaba

your go-to girl.

I believe in my kids to be honest.

I couldn't take that title.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, wow.

I have a great team.

I really

Pete Schwaba

do that's like a total pop of Murphy's modesty thing Let me ask you this Danny if you weren't in this racket, what would you be doing?

Hmm?

Yeah, I would have been I could be a professional golfer be at the US Open this week

Yeah, but no, I'd be doing something in marketing world probably.

So

Pete Schwaba

we are grilling pizzas here at Danny Bemis here.

We're grilling Papa Murphy's.

If you're in the area folks, come on over.

We've got a few more minutes.

The pizza's out here.

It's cooling off a little bit, right?

Todd's eating all the pizza.

Todd Michaels that is.

You guys are going to be here tomorrow morning too with Mino and the Mayor, right?

Yep.

Listen, do not take any of their nonsense.

Got it.

They're gonna, like, they're gonna play tricks.

I know I'm kidding.

They're gonna eat a lot of pizza.

Are you gonna cook that early?

We're gonna cook that early?

Pete Schwaba

Oh,

Kathryn Lake

I

Pete Schwaba

love that.

All right.

We are making pizza on the grill.

We're gonna come back a few more minutes with Danny and Nicky here.

Danny Bain is one of the owners of Papa Murphy's.

I tried to weasel my way into the franchise.

He would not even humor me.

I've got cash.

I have to buy my way in.

Eliza, are you filming all of this?

Can we edit some of it out later?

Okay, Danny dropped enough bomb.

I just want to make sure we... Alright, we're coming right back, folks.

So wrap this up.

It's

Kathryn Lake

Peach Wabba and Nightlight at the Civic Media Radio Network.

Pete Schwaba

Hey, we're back.

All right, this is Pete Schwabba in Night Light.

Great to have you with me tonight, folks.

We are doing things a little differently.

If it sounds like I have food in my mouth, I do.

I'm eating Papa Murphy's pizza out on Washington Street here in beautiful downtown Green Bay.

My guest is Danny Baim.

He is a Papa Murphy's owner.

He owns several stores where they make this delicious pizza.

I just had a piece of Thai chicken pizza.

How are you guys doing?

We got some onlookers.

Do you guys want pizza?

All right.

It's $12 for this piece.

No, I'm just kidding have it.

This is Thai chicken We're broadcasting live here on Washington Street outside WGBW.

We have a family of four who is eyeing the pizza I cannot stress enough.

How good this pizza is.

Have you ever had pop on Murphy's at home?

Really?

No, this is a perfect You know what here?

He's the little guys love the pepperoni you're gonna love that

All right, we're not charging you, but we will take tips.

I mean, if you want to leave a few bucks That's gonna taste really good with your gelato Awesome, my guess is Danny Bame and Nikki is here too.

Nikki is Danny's you sound like Danny's kind of right-hand person in this area at least in the Fox Valley and Green Bay

We can say that for today.

Okay for

Pete Schwaba

enough and you told us you like ice in your milk

Yes, sir,

Pete Schwaba

and you said some of your co-workers are giving you a hard time

Absolutely.

All

Pete Schwaba

right.

So what we're doing tonight, folks, we're cooking pizza on the grill from Papa Murphy's.

Danny is here.

He's brought a Thai chicken pizza, some pepperoni.

We've got barbecue chicken.

See you guys later.

And it's all delicious stuff.

So I implore you, try some Papa Murphy's on the grill.

It's great stuff.

And it goes great with action movies, as Danny will attest to.

He said he likes to watch action movies with his pizza, and I could not agree more.

We'll have a couple more minutes with Danny and Nikki here.

Right now we've got some texts we've got to get through.

Lori from Hayward.

She is in the 715 says, Pete, I would definitely suggest not keeping your passwords in a file on your phone.

You should definitely write them down somewhere else secure.

Have you guys ever been hacked?

No, not yet.

All right.

My phone bogged down and will not open.

So I have lost all that information as well as pictures and phone numbers.

According to iPhone, that stuff is irretrievable.

And at this point in time, I have also lost $4,000.

from a credit card four years ago by someone in California, as well as 1600 by someone in Minneapolis when I worked in the cities.

Credit card companies covered that, but it sure put the fear out of me as far as using my credit card goes.

Lori from Hayward, thank you.

Boy, Lori's had some traumatic experiences there.

And then Todd Michaels texted, hey, are you at the office?

That's a callback to her.

I had a cybersecurity expert here.

I had to ask her that.

I try to keep these people to text me random stuff going, like I'll just give them a fake name and try to find out what they're after.

My father-in-law, Ed, used to always write all the passwords down in a book.

And we learned that from... Hard copy.

Hard copy.

Nice.

Did he lose the hard copy?

When he did, it was a problem.

Pete Schwaba

Somebody used it to start a bonfire or something.

Steve from Florida says, Pee Wee Herman was a celebrity that would make me wonder, who is this guy?

That was our question tonight, folks.

We had some fun with that one.

Who is a celebrity you just don't understand?

Why are they famous?

For me it was the Kardashians and a little bit Mark Wahlberg for Conrad.

It was an internet sensation called Fred.

Tomorrow night on the show we've got comedian Steve Hofstetter will be joining me and actress Stephanie Gernot.

And then it is a bar ban Friday night.

So Rocker will be filling in for Terry Barr once again who is on vacation and he will be bringing new music and sparkling conversation.

How's the pizza Conrad?

Oh, we got another text?

What are we looking at here?

Tom from New Berlin says, twist from Pulp Fiction.

Okay, the dance.

Yeah, we were talking about that last night.

So, closing thoughts guys, this is exciting.

You probably picked up a family of four, some new fans.

There we go.

Gave some free pizza, that'll come back 12 fold, right?

You betcha.

At the till.

What are you gonna cook tomorrow morning with mine or with the mayor?

Cause that'll be fun too.

Yeah, we missed a couple here just took a little bit to get through cooking them all, but we'll cook the other ones tomorrow.

We got some...

Nikki's a cheese girl, so starting out the morning with a cheese pizza would probably be just fine.

A little light.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

Do you know this?

Like you get a lot of these, you know, I would say younger people down here in Green Bay.

They're more, I don't eat this.

I don't eat this.

Are you going to, have you thought about cooking a gluten free pizza tomorrow or do you have like a breakfast pizza or something?

We can do a gluten free

pizza.

We don't have a breakfast pizza, but we have a cinnamon wheel, kind of like a cinnamon.

Oh, those are good.

We can bring one of those for you if you're going to help us eat it tomorrow.

Pete Schwaba

I'll be asleep up in my.

Oh, all right.

Even the puppy like.

It's Papa Murphy's.

Look at that.

Pete Schwaba

I don't know.

You might guess my pay for that later.

But do you have a doggy pizza you could offer on your menu?

I think that could be kind of fun.

We should play a joke on Mino and just tell him they're out of pizza tomorrow morning.

We ate it all.

Pete Schwaba

He will eat.

He'll eat a whole pizza himself.

So what else can you tell us about Papa Murphy?

You've got about a minute left.

This has been so fun, you guys.

Danny Bama's here.

Papa Murphy's.

We're cooking pizza on the street, on the grill.

Yeah, folks.

So if you haven't tried that, try it definitely

this summer.

But yeah, I would say best ways to save money with us is going to be become part of our text and email club.

We text and email stuff weekly to get good deals for 25, 30% off for different deals

Kathryn Lake

on our

side items and stuff like that.

I know, you know, times are tough and everything's getting more expensive.

And just if you can save a couple of bucks, having a nice family friendly meal, we're happy to accommodate.

Pete Schwaba

That's outstanding.

And I will say this, too.

I'm not a coupon guy.

I never really have been just because I can't keep track of them.

But Papa Murphy's is one of the few places that you guys put the coupons right on the packaging, right?

Or we do that, yeah.

Pete Schwaba

And we would just put it right in the fridge.

That's like, so kudos for that.

I want to give you a compliment.

That's the only place I've been able to remember to use coupons

because it's so easy.

That's why we try to text or email them so you can just search easy.

Pete Schwaba

Outstanding.

Well, so I would say, Todd, Todd Michaels is here.

You're going to be producing the show tomorrow.

What's your favorite?

That we've cooked here tonight

tie

Pete Schwaba

chicken me too and Eliza Sir would you like a slice of pizza pizza?

Argentine how about a foot rub?

Okay.

Pete Schwaba

Oh now he comes back.

You want a piece of pizza?

Yeah,

we're on the radio

Pete Schwaba

online on the radio everywhere

Well, welcome.

Sir, it's nice to have you.

Have a great night.

You're welcome to take a piece of pizza.

Okay.

All right, that's going to do it for us tonight, folks.

Thank you, everybody.

Thank you to Jenna Watkins.

Thank you, Danny Bame and Nicky, for being here.

It

Kathryn Lake

was so

Pete Schwaba

much fun.

Kathryn Lake

Thanks for having us.

Thank you,

Pete Schwaba

Eliza, for filming.

Todd, for being here on your night off.

Sort of a night off.

All right.

We'll be back tomorrow night, folks, on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad.

Good night, Wisconsin.

Kathryn Lake

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