Sinners- the good & the bad (Hour 2)

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Sinners- the good & the bad (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Mon Jun 2, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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And now, a guy who believes a penny saved isn't Jack.

Pete Schwaba

Hey, welcome back.

This is Nightlight, folks.

Hack 2 is just getting underway.

Great to have you with me.

We've got a really fun show tonight.

Got a great question, couple really solid guests, and we're talking movies.

Our question of the night is, in honor of National Game Show Day, what is your favorite game show?

I would say Jeopardy is winning so far.

But you can go as abstract as you want with this, folks.

We talked about Sidney Sweeney's bar soap, Conrad.

He ordered a case.

A 30-pack.

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A 30-pack.

He's already... It hasn't even arrived yet, and he's already gone through it.

I don't even know how that's possible, but he's very excited to get his Sidney Sweeney bar soap.

And we're talking right now with my guest, Austin Galante.

He is a... That's a cool name, by the way.

How'd you swing that?

Is that your birth name?

No.

Oh, sweet.

I maybe should have changed mine.

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It's hard.

Conrad, what do people think my name is?

Peach cobbler?

Yeah.

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Austin Galante.

That has some like, it's got some panache.

How'd you settle on that?

Like 20 years ago, I was trying to figure out what my stage name was going to be and I was walking behind a Mitch of Bishop Galante.

You know, if you had to eat it, that it would sound.

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Oh, I like that.

Sound nice.

Austin's

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a good

name, too.

There it is.

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Um, tell me about you have a production company called Marshmallow napalm.

Where did that name come from?

It's kind of cool.

Uh, you know, like sitting around the campfire and getting marsh, uh, marshmallow.

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The true story behind that.

So, um, so you've got, uh, you know,

Let me ask you this I've seen some of the budgets on the films you work with and some of them are small I don't know what all the budgets are and I wouldn't ask you because that's kind of a personal question for independent filmmakers, but What's the biggest challenge you face when you're making these movies?

You've got all these actors and you said you made I think you said you made a feature film before for three grand like your first one Which is common a lot of people breaking in their first film.

How do you pull that off?

Is it all favors?

Or how do you do that?

It was just really pared down there wasn't like

You know a

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lot of you talking Yeah,

I mean so I've spent a lot of time learning how to do everything myself So, you know, I can edit it I can do you know, vision some visual effects and I can color grade color Wow the film and I'm also you know, I make music so I can score the movie and

You know, I know how to run a camera.

I know how to run sound and so, you know, like I can get away with doing a really Paired down crew like the first movie had two guys Mitch monster and myself as the crew and then there

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were

like four what three other actor four other actors Plus myself.

I have a small part in it, but

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okay

Yeah, so it's just it's just about, you know, I spent, you know, 20 years learning how to do stuff

Right.

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Good for you.

You mentioned music.

That's your background.

You've worked with Snoop Dogg, you've worked with CeeLo Green.

Those are the two names that stood out to me.

Maybe there are even bigger, heavy hitters that I don't know about that are in your resume.

But how did you go from, what did you do in the music industry and how did it bring you to movies?

Well, I was in a band for a really long time and we played a lot of shows and it was sort of a rap.

punk type band, but we we had songs that were had different feels to them.

So we played with a lot of rap groups over the years.

I mean, I probably played with 20 or 30 famous people

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everybody's

heard of, you know, and then we also got to do a bunch of dates on the warp tour and met a bunch of people that way.

So, you know, just like every situation is different, you know, I've recorded with some people in my living room and then some people just send, you know, send the vocals to the track and in other cases it's just by and a verse or whatever.

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You had a song, I don't know if it was, Austin's movie by the way is called Sanguine Teeth on a Driftless Road.

It opens June 7th at Sun Prayer, the premieres in Sun Prairie on June 7th at Marcus.

Theaters can people can anybody go to that or you have to be invited or what's the deal?

Yeah, there's you can buy tickets on tickpick.com And you can search sanguine teeth on a driftless road or you can go to Marsh mellow Nate ah Marsh mellow napalm calm and there's a link at the top of that page

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Yeah,

tickets

are

like 11 bucks and

There's still probably around, I don't know, 40 tickets, something like that.

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Nice.

Okay.

Sounds like you had a good turnout.

That's great.

All right, so you have, I think it was a credit, it was on this film, but you were credited as writing a song with Snoop Dogg.

How did that happen?

Well, that was just reaching out and buying a verse.

I didn't get to meet him

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or anything.

Oh, okay.

I pictured you guys huddled over.

you know, at a coffee shop, right?

But, you know, you have a credit with Snoop Dogg.

That's cool.

You guys collaborated sort of, right?

Yeah.

And, you know, like each situation is different.

Like we did this song with Slim Catrae.

I don't know if you remember Far Side.

Well, it was like a group, I don't know, 20 years ago, they were really big, but he just like came to my living room and recorded.

Oh, that's cool.

You know, William Elliot Whitmore.

I guess maybe for,

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okay,

nope.

C.Lo, we played a show with him and then, you know, we hung out with him for a while at a bar and ended up talking and he said his verse, you know, over the internet and-

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When was this?

Does this post forget you for lack of a better, the song is the F word I guess.

That was

like the same year, but right before it released.

So

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we got super

lucky.

Was he cool?

I mean, yeah, he's a nice enough guy.

I guess like, you know, he's just like chill, right?

You know,

like

a lot of famous people are just like, chill.

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That's like one of my favorite songs

ever.

For trying to be cool.

I don't know whatever it is.

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Yeah.

You should tell people you wrote the video or you directed the video.

What are, are there similarities in what you do?

Like when you, you say you were in bands, what's more of a grind?

I'm trying to make it as a musician or make it an independent

film.

I don't know.

They're both quite difficult without lots of money.

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Yeah,

right.

I mean, what does it say like half a million dollars is what it takes to break a single?

Really?

Yeah, between a half a million and a million dollars.

So, you know, most songs that you hear that are on the radio on repeat.

someone

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spent

that much money getting them all across the country their song on all these stations and sending them around to you know

Do whatever interviews and blah blah blah.

It's expensive, right?

Yeah.

Oh gotta fly there.

Gotta fly there.

Gotta fly there.

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My guest is Austin Galante.

His film is Sanguine Teeth on a Driftless Road.

It opens June 7th in Sun Prairie.

It's the premiere.

There's still about 40 tickets left.

You can check it out.

It's June 7th in Sun Prairie at Marcus Theaters.

Even other project coming out you told me about.

But this is even a lower budget.

So what's the next story about?

It's called...

What have we won?

And it is about two like kind of idiots who, you know, just kind of struggling in life.

And then they, they do some stuff.

They end up winning the lottery and they moved to Montana to pan for gold.

And they just sort of like move out there with the camper and kind of this, the movie takes place at approximately the course of a couple of weeks, but they're out there for about a week.

And, uh, they're kind of like sort of living off the land until they decide what they're going to do as far as house and so forth.

And it's just kind of about the, the trouble that follows them, even though they tried to get away from their troubles.

And, uh, yeah, I'll send another comedy, uh, Robert Lassardo's in it, Matthew Kenner's in it, Douglas Montoya's in it.

Um, they're, they're also in, uh, Sanguine Teeth on a Driftless Road, which is the movie that comes out or, you know,

Sanguine Teeth has a few people in it.

Charlie Mack just won the Golden Ticket on Kill Tony.

So he is a very funny dude.

You should check him

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out.

I'm checking him out right now on IBV Pro.

That's great.

Jason Horton is a horror movie director who just released the movie A Hard Place, which is making a lot of noise.

But I think he's sort of championing the like 80s B movie horror vibe slasher vibe

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with it.

So Yeah, he's in it.

We have a scene.

That's pretty funny That's

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awesome.

Do you have I noticed on your IMDB page, you know and actors do this in the resumes they list all the talents they have and you have whistling And no not not hold on a lot of people would go really

I can't even tell you how many resumes I've seen, whether I was casting something or I saw a friend's, where people put whistling.

What is that?

When does that ever come into play that you know of in movies?

I suppose it

would, but.

I think I've done at least three auditions where I had

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to whistle.

Where they

wanted someone who could whistle.

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That is so fun.

And is it like you put your fingers in and you do the really loud one or just basic

whistling?

One, they wanted someone to like.

Like whistle really high and do something and then another one that's like some tune or something that I don't remember exactly.

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Yeah Let's talk about we got a couple more minutes.

You have got this great vampire movie coming out sanguine teeth has four vampires What are your favorite?

Do you have favorite vampire movies or a movie that you saw when you were younger where you're like, that's the kind of movie I want to make

You

got me on a gotcha question right there.

Oh,

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no, that was not my intention.

I

don't know off the top of my head.

Well, my favorite vampire movie would be.

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Did you see Nosferatu last fall?

Or I know you said you hadn't seen Sinners yet, but it's kind of making it come back.

I

started to watch it and then I wanted to watch it at a different time.

So I haven't watched it yet.

Oh, gosh.

Come come back to me on that

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one.

Yeah, let me think about it for just you know, like a minute.

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Sure.

All right.

So what are you?

What are you binge watching?

Most guests I ask what they're watching.

Are you binge watching anything on TV right now or something you could recommend?

I did just watch sirens.

It was kind of interesting.

It was kind of, I don't know.

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That's a newer show, right?

Yeah,

it was a show, but you know, I watched it this weekend or week, whatever.

Let's see.

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We'll take your time.

Think about it.

I don't mean to... A lot of things I want to do is have a got you moment.

You got me.

Conrad saw hacks and you finished the whole season.

You're caught up, right, Con?

Yeah, yeah.

I finished it this past weekend.

And thumbs up?

It was a great season.

It had all types of twists on it.

The ending, you're like, it's a crazy ending to the show.

I can't wait to see the next one.

He's

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so cool.

I finished Mobland last night.

10 episodes, Tom Hardy, Pierce Brosnan, Helen Mirren.

And it's not reinventing the wheel or anything, but it's well done for what it is.

Guy Ritchie is one of the executive producers, and I recommend that.

But what I've seen of Hacks...

I really like, too.

On the stream, our question for the night is, what is your favorite game show?

PJ on the stream says, there once was a game show on Xbox by Microsoft called One versus 100.

It was a trivia game.

I don't remember that.

Thank you, PJ.

And then Dave also says, Barney's Clubhouse, pow.

I know that, but I can't place where that was.

Keep those texts coming, folks.

Austin Galante, thank you so much.

Best of luck with the film.

I hope the premiere kicks butt and you have a liner on the door, my friend.

Yeah, me too.

Be careful going back to Sun Prayer.

You got to go through the east side.

That's a tough part of town.

All right.

Yeah.

We're coming right back, folks, for some movie talk and some UW Cinema Tech talk with our pal Ben Reiser.

That's coming up next on Nightlight after a very short break.

Don't go anywhere.

We're doing Monday the way it's supposed to be done on State Street in Madison.

This is Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Someone's

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living for love.

Someone's living for love.

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Nightlight with Peach Wabba.

I am your host for this evening's festivities, Peach Wabba.

And our question of the night is what is your favorite game show?

It is national.

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Conrad, tell people where the grand prize trips are, would you?

Yeah, they're in Baraboo and in Door County.

How about that?

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That would be a lot of fun

Right now, joining me on the show, another in-studio guest.

This is so much fun.

One of my favorite people in Madison.

All right, anywhere.

I don't just keep it to the city limits.

Ben Reiser, folks.

He is the programmer at UW-Cinematheque here in Madison, which is an outstanding program.

We'll talk about that.

And he works for the Wisconsin Film Festival too.

Ben, welcome.

Boy,

oh boy.

That's quite an intro.

Even after the grief I gave you late night during the festival.

Oh man, you were on me.

Well, I'm sorry.

I don't

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know what got into you.

That wasn't like you.

It was a bad edible or

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something.

Listen, I think you were sticking up for a friend of yours.

And I didn't.

The only thing that got me is you said, did you just not do your homework?

And that that got under my, we almost had to take it outside because, because this is a friend of yours.

So I only hope you

would.

defend me.

This is international rock star Scott Lucas.

Never mind a friend of mine.

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But again, you're belittling this man.

No, I'm not at all.

I think Scott is outstanding.

And I've since listened to some of his songs.

I can't remember any of them.

But no, I'm kidding.

But here he is.

He's a big time.

But you're a music guy.

Yeah, look I'm wearing a very obscure band t-shirt the English beat remember them from the 80s

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I do I love the English beat

and every time you bring up Scott's

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name I end up somehow in trouble I don't know what you kind of racket you're running here, but I know I got

keep trying to get us to a place where I am the heel that I feel like I have been during this whole situation But somehow you're not navigating this if I had just met you I would have been like

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But I've known you long enough right I know you didn't mean to think about it.

Yeah, it's great to have you here like after midnight on a festival night

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anything goes yeah

We were hanging out.

It was a fun party.

Hey, give us a recap for this year's Wisconsin Film Festival.

Another blast.

It was great movies.

Yeah, it was

crazy, insanely successful.

I mean, it's always great.

There's always great movies, great hang with you and all the other visiting filmmakers.

But this year, I mean, it's been a long time since we had more than three or four sold out films during the course of the festival.

This year, I think we had close to 40 sold out screenings.

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It was insane.

I went to, well, I go to as many movies as I can when I'm not introducing a film and everyone I went to was, like for that Rolling Stones film, the title I can't say, I was literally up next to the projection booth at the Barrymore, like at the top.

And it was probably still making

your eardrums

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bleed with

that

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loud.

I mean, that was loud.

That was ridiculously loud.

It was loud, but it was worth it because there were people getting up and dancing and it was really fun.

Maybe you guys always do a great job.

But, uh, yeah.

So, um, another success that's exciting.

It was

great.

I couldn't be any happier.

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And when you're a key part of that success, you're too kind.

What, even though I almost took it back to your buddy and I'm not going to do that.

I'm not going to get sucked in.

What, uh, when you guys start working on the next one already, like you've got what, 10 months now or whatever.

When does that start?

Well, I've already been in contact with all the venues to give them our dates for next year.

So we're already in it.

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OK.

Wow.

When is it really heat up?

When is it like Ben doesn't sleep much?

Like the

day before the festival?

No.

It'll heat up in September when the submissions start coming in again.

We open up our submission windows at the beginning of September for all of Wisconsin's own films.

And Jim and Mike are going to be going to the Toronto International Film Festival

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in

September.

So that's, you know, we kind of take the summer off as much as we possibly can.

Um, we're also busy starting the end of this month with cinema tech for six

weeks

this summer.

So we got that to contend with.

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So all right, it's funny because I, I've, I like that screening room a lot at cinema tech and I, I've seen when you guys average, you

must not sit there.

You must just stand in the back

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because those seats

are not comfortable.

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I'm the first one to

tell

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you,

I wish we had nicer seats.

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It's just something about the experience of being there and of, of that building, which is old and.

whatever it is, and it takes me back to the 70s.

I feel like all the butts that sat in those seats, I just think it's kind of a cool experience, even though the seats might not be the most comfortable.

But for people who live in Madison and haven't ever been there, what can you tell them about it?

And especially how much it cost to get in, because I thought that was great.

Well, it's free.

Yeah.

And if you email me, I'll send you directions because it's not the easiest room to find on campus.

It's one of these brutalist buildings where, you know, really brutal.

You can't find the place.

There's not a street level entrance to the entire building as you may know.

You have to climb up a ramp, you have to find the right elevator.

So there's that, but it's great.

It's fantastic.

And people are onto the secret these days.

The last couple of years of Cinematheque have really been

Again, I hate to keep using the word but very successful.

Yeah, you know, we regularly turn people away at the door And you guys show classics we show classics and premieres During the during the school year We're showing premieres on Thursday nights and then we have our classics from the entire history of film on Fridays and Saturdays now during the summer We like to keep our weekends free as I think

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most

people do so we do Wednesday night

Thursday night and Friday night.

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So that's awesome.

All right.

We're going to talk more about the schedule, what you can see at Cinema Tech this summer, if you take advantage of this amazing film watching experience.

And then Ben and I will talk about movies.

I love Sinners.

He didn't love it.

I can't wait.

It's Pete Schwabba.

The news is coming up next and we're coming back to talk movies and Cinema Tech on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

Welcome back.

Pete Schwaba

Great to have you with me on this Monday night.

We are broadcasting live from State Street at our Madison Studios.

Conrad is holding back, holding down.

He's not holding back the fort.

He's holding down the fort and doing it without wearing pants, which makes his job well.

All the more whatever it is.

I don't know.

One of these days I'm going to come up and do in studio in Green Bay.

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So I can hang out with Conrad.

I never get to see this dude.

Conrad, show yourself on the screen for people for people listening.

Look at that.

There he is.

Nice.

Just a mountain of muscle that guy.

It was helpful to actually watch you now because I got to see you do the like the two minute signal.

Okay, I'm not going to launch into one of my typical

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long stories.

It has to

be

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cut off halfway through.

I appreciate it.

Our question is, what is your favorite game show?

Annie from Watertown says, oh my, Howard Garnett and wife, Rosemary, Dialing for Dollars.

There's another one for Dialing for Dollars.

Milwaukee Channel 12.

At noon, as I remember, was he their weatherman?

I don't know, Annie.

I don't know that show.

I was not around in Milwaukee.

She said in the 1960s, I wasn't even here yet.

Ben, you're in your really late 20s, right?

Excruciatingly late 20s.

They call it

triple

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20s,

I

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think.

Annie says, Janice Joplin's Mercedes-Benz second verse.

Oh Lord, won't you buy me a colored TV dialing for dollars?

Dialing for dollars is trying to find me.

I'll wait for delivery each day until three.

Oh Lord, won't you buy me a colored TV?

Boy, it looks like I really missed out on this game show.

Thank you, Annie.

Ben Reiser is here, folks.

He is the programmer of UW Cinematheque here in Madison.

It's free.

Your sound is state-of-the-art.

The screen is great, right?

I mean, you talk about the seats not being that comfortable.

They're not that bad, though.

I don't know why I said that.

I'm always saying stuff that really

goes against

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what I'm

trying to promote at any given moment.

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Oh, we show terrible film still.

Come to the festival, and I'll get into a fight with you late night.

Come to our

cinema tech.

You won't be able to sit through the movie.

It's

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so uncomfortable.

Ben's a prince of a guy.

It's good to have you here in the studio, buddy.

How long does it take you to get here from Casa de Rizor?

10 minutes.

Not

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bad.

Everything's 10 minutes away in Madison, isn't it?

The last time I stayed here, I was out in the Western Burbs.

Oh, yeah.

It might have been technically Madison, but I ate at this Indian place.

Oh my God, was it good?

Wait a minute.

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Was it

Fitchburg?

Was it the one that's in a hotel?

Because there's this new weird Indian fusion place that's Indian plus Italian.

So they make like a chicken tiki masala pizza.

Oh, nice.

But I think you might be talking about all the way on the west side like off a minimal point road There's a Indian place that we've been to twice very like authentic.

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Oh, yeah,

but in like an old Chinese restaurant takeout spot Like right next to like a home depot or a Petco or something like that.

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That's not it either if you said it I would know it it's by the There's a conference center and there's a mm-hmm

And the Starbucks there, and I talked about this last time I was here, I went to the Starbucks twice and they checked no thank you on the tip for me.

Wow.

And that made me want to tip them.

Like, you know, because I get- What's up with that?

Why would they do that?

That's like

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me.

I don't like getting shaken down.

No, don't come to

my movies.

What's

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the matter

with that?

All right.

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All right, Bennett's here.

We have to talk.

Tell us about Cinematheque.

What is coming up this summer you're excited about?

You get this cool summer program.

What's happening?

Well, we're showing us some Gene Hackman movies because he died terrible.

Have you ever heard a worse death story than Gene Hackman and his

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wife?

The only thing that would have made it worse is if he was like in his 50s.

I mean, he had a great run, but yeah, it's still a terrible way to go.

Right.

Oh, I don't even want to think about it.

Anyway, we're honoring

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Gene Hackman

with hopefully some movies that are more entertaining than the way he died.

We're going to show one of my favorite Gene Hackman movies, which is not the French connection, but the French connection to where Popeye Doyle goes to Marseille to pursue the guy he sort of let's slip through his fingers at the end of the French connection.

Love that movie.

What else are we showing?

We're showing a bunch of films by this French director who's made a million movies Claude Le Luche.

You've heard that name He made a movie called a man and a woman back.

I think at the end of the 60s, which is sort of like an iconic French Romantic comedy drama and apparently he made a bunch of thrillers So we're gonna be showing because it's summertime if everyone loves a nice thriller in the yeah, so we've got some bank heist movies

Yeah, just a bunch of fun in the summertime.

We just sort of say what's going to be fun for people to come hang out.

And,

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you know,

there's only so many times you can see Mission Impossible, the final chapter.

So you got to have some popcorn movies, even a cinema tech.

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Absolutely.

I love a good heist movie.

As far as I'm concerned, there's not enough out there to keep me like I would watch a heist movie every night.

You know, right?

Have you and I talked about dragged across concrete?

You mentioned it.

I

have not seen oh tell me about that.

That's a great heist movie.

I don't need to tell you anything else Mel Gibson bank heist on Criabla as they would say in France with Claude Lelouch dragged across concrete and the guy is The filmmaker he maybe you've seen some of his other films.

I'm spacing out on his name, but he made this great crazy Western with Kurt Russell called bone Tomahawk

You seen that one?

No, I've heard of it.

I have not seen it.

And he made one with Vince Vaughn called Brawl and Cell Block 99.

I think I saw that.

That's a nasty one.

But yeah.

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Same filmmaker?

Those are his three films.

I think right before the pandemic, we were planning on showing all three of them and bringing him here.

And I think we still hope to do that.

But I think he's shooting another film now, so maybe we'll wait for his next movie to come out.

Drag to cost.

across concrete, fantastic.

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Mel

Gibson.

Heist movie, yeah.

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Crazy Mel Gibson.

Where is that from?

That's a good question.

I'm probably going to watch that tonight to be honest.

I want to say that was like 2018 maybe

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or

2019.

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Oh,

nice.

You know, then the pandemic killed everything.

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No, no kidding.

All right, we have to get into this bend because I love, you know,

inevitably you always when you come on here you always

say the wrong thing

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no no no you you say your opinion and I love like you and the last couple times you've taken a side that was not was kind of the antithesis of what everybody else felt so

I don't mean to do that but apparently I do I was I spent two hours talking about Star Trek the motion picture today on a podcast that I do called 70 movies we saw in the 70s and that was the one Star Trek movie that was 1979

And most people think Rathakon, which is the second Star Trek movie, and then whatever the fourth one is, those are the good ones.

I like one, three, and five.

And when I say that to people, to Star Trek peoples, otherwise known as Trekkies, although that

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apparently

that's, they're not supposed to say that

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word.

It's

politically incorrect now.

People look at me like I'm out of my mind, but I don't know.

I like the original Star Trek.

It's long and slow and boring, but it's kind of, it's kind of cinematic in a way that the other ones aren't because I think they realize nobody wants to see

a sort of a 2001 or, you know, fancy Russian Solaris version of Star Trek.

They want to see, you know, Kirk bare-chested and fighting it out with some alien.

And so that's what they did with Wrath of Khan.

But this one, the first one, anyway, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

I sometimes have an unpopular opinion.

I don't mean to be that way.

I don't

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I don't

cultivate that right.

Yeah, so one you want to talk about sinners is that right?

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Yeah, I know you're not just being you know Contrarian for the sake of it.

Thank you.

That's where I gotta be Yeah, you have your own opinion.

So you did not and I didn't sound like you hated it But you know

I pretty much hated you hated

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sinners.

Oh, please

elaborate.

Well, I'm a Ryan Coogler guy.

I like his other movies

Think the first two Creed movies and even the one he didn't direct the last one.

I love those Creed movies.

They were certainly better than the last three Rocky movies.

And, you know, Black Panther.

Great.

Fruitvale Station.

Great.

This one should have been right up my alley.

I'm a horror guy.

You tell me you're going to have a vampire movie.

You're going to have, you know, great acting, all that stuff.

I just didn't buy a single second of it.

And I think the movie.

Among other things is really trying to be this sort of authentic vision of what things were like back in those days in that neck of the woods, especially musically.

Yeah.

But I didn't like a single note of music that is either on the soundtrack or actually being played in the movie.

I just thought it was inauthentic.

Like they had this, I don't know, German or Swiss guy.

compose the soundtrack for that movie and he's doing all these kind of like weird European sounding blues riffs on the thing I'm like, why is this why wasn't this movie, you know scored by I don't know two live crew or or you know or or or or a public enemy or anybody anybody from the any any any African-American

Recording artist of the last 50 years if they had done that I probably would have liked it a lot more But I also thought it wasn't a good vampire movie like it wasn't scary I didn't understand the rules of it And I feel like I feel like it was a horror movie made by people who aren't really into horror movies Maybe for people who don't really like horror movies because I was amazed at how many people love this movie And I'm like well, maybe because it's not really scary and it's really just

I guess trying to make a statement, but I feel like that's a statement that's been made plenty of other times and plenty of better movies Wow, okay.

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I just feel like it was I liked every the music you did a deep dive there.

That's like serious inside baseball Come

on man, you got a guy named Ludwig Goranson who's doing blues rips for this for this movie.

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Come on.

I thought it was a

I kind of agree with you about the vampire stuff.

I don't agree with you, but I feel like it took a long time to get to.

In fact, I feel like that opening scene, there was probably a studio note that says there's no vampires for an hour and 15 minutes, so they put that in so we know what's coming.

It's

a good opening.

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It's a good opening.

That's the thing.

I came to love this movie.

I wanted to love it.

Were your expectations too high?

I don't think so.

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I try

to come in with no expectations, but if I'm honest with myself, I'm like, this is going to be good.

I'm excited to see this.

The previews were all good.

That first scene is good.

It grabs you.

And then it just was sort of like this steady sort of like, okay, I guess this movie is never really going to take off.

Pete Schwaba

Interesting.

What did you think about the, to me, I liked the movie when it was, when I thought it was done.

And then the credits, credits started and that last scene did it for me.

I loved it because of that last scene.

You did not like that last scene, right?

No, no, it's fine.

But it was too little, too late for me.

Okay.

Gotcha.

the last scene is fine you have to stay through the credits folks if you're listening you have to i don't know why they did that but uh by the way yeah

let me say the opposite about another movie that i know you saw and i saw and i really liked a lot warfare

Alright, we'll talk about

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that too.

Ben Reiser's here.

I didn't see Conrad single anything.

No, he didn't single.

I have to have to reset, they call it in radio.

Oh, okay.

Ben Reiser's here.

He's one of the programmers.

He's the programmer of UW Cinema Tech.

Not to say he won't take notes from people, but and he works for the Milwaukee, I'm sorry.

Yeah, but I'm not the programmer for Cinema Tech.

I'm one of three programmers.

Jim Healy's

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the main dude.

And he's a big shot with the Wisconsin film festival.

Yeah, that's true.

And we get together and talk movies every once in a while.

He did not like sinners.

I like sinners.

Conrad, what'd you think?

He didn't see

it.

I didn't see it yet.

That's my man.

He

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doesn't even have hands on.

I think he never leaves that chair.

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He

doesn't.

I saw Karate Kid

Legends, so

I did leave it.

How's that?

It was all right.

Nothing special.

Well, why were you excited to go run and see that?

I

like Cobra Kai.

Yeah, and I like the first three Karate Kids.

And the fourth one didn't happen, so.

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Right.

Well you okay, so you you and I both saw war that's okay.

You and I both saw warfare I Thought it was the best war movie I've ever seen yeah, and I didn't accept yeah, and I kind of agree with you there Not until you said it though so tip of my hat to you because I was like it was a little cheesy and I it's cool that you get to see them But I thought they could have done that with still photos or something.

They didn't need to have this.

Hey, we're just a bunch of wacky guys and they

They also made what feels like the most authentic war movie

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of

all time.

I don't need proof that these were actual guys.

That's

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a great

point.

You're taking me out of the reality of your movie,

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which was amazing.

And it really, to me, Ben, I left that movie going, you want to support the troops, don't send them into, like you see these guys that are

all Navy SEALs, they're specialists, they're highly trained.

Well, when that bomb goes off, they're all concussed, and they can't, you see what hell it actually is from a guy who lived it and isn't just shooting things and exaggerating, you know?

I thought it was amazing, but I do agree with you on the credit sequence there.

Should we talk mission, all right, we're gonna wrap up here.

For now, we're doing a very short break, and then we're gonna get Ben's opinion on Mission Impossible.

Uh, the latest.

And I've got one, supposedly.

I

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bet you do.

Pete Schwaba

Ben Reiser's here, folks.

It's Nightlight with Peach Wamba on

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the Civic Media Radio Network.

Pete Schwaba

Welcome back to Nightlight folks.

I'm Pete Schwabba.

Tomorrow night I will be back in Green Bay and we will have Rob Thomas on

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David

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Grant.

Yeah, Madison Film Critic, Rob Thomas.

The always entertaining Rob Thomas.

David Grant, Civic Media Zone.

David Grant will report from the Circus Parade.

Is that still on, Con?

Yeah, he's going to be at the parade, which is, I believe, the following

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week.

And he's going to, yeah, tell us a little bit about

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what's

good.

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I love a parade.

And then a paranormal investigator, Todd Michael, Civic Media's own.

That'll be fun.

That's all tomorrow night on Nightlight, folks.

We've got a couple of texts we got to get through here.

Steady Eddie texted us back.

This is a double featured Steady Eddie.

Pete, Dialing for Dollars is in the lyrics of the acapella Janice Joplin song, Mercedes Benz.

Oh, that's what I knew.

I heard that song.

I didn't know what he says.

Oh, Lord, won't you buy me a color TV?

Did I read this Conrad?

Yes.

No, but it was Anna sent the same.

Oh, no, no.

Yeah.

So it's the same.

But he's just explaining the same thing.

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Yeah.

And Eddie says, Oh, Lord, won't you buy me a car to be down for hours?

Are they a couple?

Are Anna and steady Eddie in cahoots?

Steady Eddie says, Pete, you might want to think about trading in your black and white plasma for one of them newfangled color televisions.

I'm not sure.

But I think they might be here to stay steady Eddie.

Well done, sir.

I talk about color television every night.

Bridget in the 818 says $100,000 pyramid is the best.

The winner's circle is so exciting.

I forgot that one too.

Did you ever watch that, Ben?

Which one?

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$100,000 pyramid.

Oh, yeah.

I remember it, but I don't.

Dick Clark, I think, was the host.

Was it Dick Clark?

Dick E.C.?

Ben Reiser is here.

We've got a few more minutes with my guest, Ben Reiser.

He has been nice enough to come into the studio here tonight when we broadcast from Madison.

We're talking about movies.

We talked about sinners warfare.

He gave us an update on what is coming up at UW Cinema Tech here at Vilas Hall, which is free.

They've got great films coming up this summer.

If people wanted to see like a lineup, go to the interwebs.

Yeah, cinema.wisc.edu.

There you go.

And they're all free and it's fantastic.

Um, so what, uh, hold on, Ben, we got, I

don't know if they're all fantastic, but most of them are pretty good.

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Yeah.

You guys don't

book, uh,

Listen, we like to show a lot of different things.

Not everything's going to appeal to everybody.

Pete Schwaba

Are you going to buy Sydney Sweeney bath soap?

Have you heard about this?

Oh, is

it used?

Pete Schwaba

Well, it's her bathwater.

Oh, it's her bathwater.

It's the essence of her bathwater in a new soap called Bathwater Bliss.

It's $8 a bar.

Okay.

A perfect combination of the two best places on the planet.

the outdoors and Sidney Sweeney's bathtub.

Experience the ultimate blend of outdoor serenity with refreshing notes of pine, Dr. Douglas Furr, earthy moss and a touch of Sidney's very own bathwater.

Well, you know, and

that Glyneth Paltrow made a candle.

I can't even

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tell you the rest of the sense.

Yeah.

And it's

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that's weird too.

She's strange to me.

I think Sidney Sweeney is right up there with her in the strange or this is genius because she knows there's a whole bunch of.

Creepy dudes out there that

yeah, I mean, you know Celebrities looking for more money just used to sell like they're used panties and I don't know that they've

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moved into a whole other

yeah My goodness

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all right have to before we get out of here.

I have to ask doesn't that happen in

that movie that came out last year with And that's

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Jacob a Lordy's bathwater there you go.

He needs to put out his own bathwater.

I I don't know I think

Don't think women are buying either.

Hmm, but maybe I think it's a plenty of men who would buy Jacob.

I know and Sidney Sweeney.

It's like the guys have all the creep factor Yeah Are they both on that euphoria show?

I think they are

yeah, they're

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right.

I know Sidney Sweeney is a Conrad he wants Conrad has them all on

I watched like three episodes and I did not like it, but they're both in it.

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Yeah, okay Am I eight?

The final reckoning.

Sure.

Um, I thought it was good.

I'm, I'm a sucker for all the mission impossible

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movies.

Maybe the John Woo one was the one that

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I was like, is that the second one?

It's

terrible.

The first one was just okay.

Oh, no, no, no.

I love the

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first one.

Brian De Palma can do no wrong.

I think he's a genius.

Having said that, these last four that Christopher McCarty made are great.

But I, I, the reason I'm hesitating to say anything too complaining about.

This last one is because I don't think I really loved the first part of this one Yeah,

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it's

like the third time I watched it and now you do.

I loved it

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three times

Yeah, oh nice, and I liked it the first time I really liked it the second time and then getting ready for this new one my son and I watched it and I was like this is great What was I ever wow?

And so I might get to that with this one, but Based on my first viewing which was an I max which is always nice.

Oh,

yeah

The first hour is deadly.

And then there's stuff that happens for the rest of it that is like, there's too many nagging questions for me.

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Too many

things where I'm like, I feel like they didn't remember that they needed to clear up this plot point or they didn't.

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With the rabbit's foot, maybe?

Well, I don't know anything about the

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rabbit's

foot, but there's something that goes on with the parachute.

There's something that goes on.

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Yeah, he has another parachute.

Yeah, but who knew?

And

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you never

see him pull it or what?

I thought maybe he would

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die and it was the last one.

They do like a bond

thing.

Right.

I mean, what I really thought, and maybe they didn't do this because maybe this exact thing happened in a James Bond movie, I thought he was going to get the other guy who has fallen

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out.

With a parachute.

Yeah, and

grab his parachute.

Right.

And

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I was

like, when's that gonna happen?

And then it didn't happen.

I was like, aw man, what a wasted opportunity.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, I didn't get that either.

I have very few complaints.

Even the recap, I know some people had an issue with that.

I kind of feel like you needed it a little.

Well, I didn't because

I just watched dead reckoning, but, but, and I was annoyed.

I was like, I don't need flashbacks.

You know, I hope, I hope when it goes to streaming or whatever, they pull that stuff out.

I don't need that.

It's fine if they want to talk about it.

I don't need to see the actual footage.

Right.

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I hate that.

Whenever they do that in the movie, it

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annoys me.

Fair enough.

Ben, this was fun.

I think you should give sinners another watch and come around.

I'm sure I will.

Pete Schwaba

I would like to thank all of you for being here tonight, folks.

This was fun.

Always fun to be in Madison doing the show.

Thank you to Ben Reiser.

Thank you to Austin Galante, the guy with the cool name.

Check out his film, The Sanguine.

I got to pull it up again.

I keep, all right, The Sanguine.

Conrad, help me.

The sanguine teeth

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on a driftless

road.

Yes.

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Yes.

There you go.

Check it out.

Thank

you for all your

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texts and all your calls, folks.

Have a great night.

We'll be back to do it all again tomorrow on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad.

I'm Pete Schwabba saying good night, Wisconsin.

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