Vampires & Cigars(Hour 2)

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Vampires & Cigars(Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Thu May 29, 2025

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Pete Schwaba

Welcome back.

Tonight, ladies and gentlemen, we are kicking off act two here.

Hey, we are having a great time.

Our question of the night is what is your favorite movie score?

And for those of you that might not know, score is what the composer does.

It's like the background music or like the...

Mission Impossible, dun, dun, dun, dun.

Not necessarily songs, but you can share songs too, but that's our question of the night.

So join the fun and let us know what your favorite movie score is.

In just a minute, Norm Kepesky from Appleton Cigar is gonna join me here.

And then author Laura Enright at 720, we're gonna talk vampires and piggyback on Mary Pacorni-Downland's Popcorn Pick of the Week, which was Sinners, an excellent choice.

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It starts June 2nd.

Right now, it is my pleasure to welcome one of our sponsors here at Night Light, the very talented, very knowledgeable, when it comes to cigars, certainly, Appleton Cigar co-owner, Norm Gubeski.

Hey, buddy.

Thanks for having me on again.

I, you know, you're such a big burly guy.

You look like you could like crush a beer can with your hands.

And here I am wearing my Elton John son, my Elton John readers tonight.

They're red.

We should

see

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mine.

I just didn't break them in.

You got sparkles on them and stuff like that.

Maybe I'm not going to tell.

I was, listen, I have about 18 pairs of these around my house.

I don't know what happened to my regular ones.

But anyway, it's great to have you here.

You have a really cool event.

We talked about it a little bit last week.

Let's just refresh people's memory about this awesome event, Smoke on the Fox.

Yeah, so Smoke on the Fox is our second annual multi-vendor event.

We're hosting down at Line Still Brewery, downtown college, downtown Nina.

And the nonprofit that we're sponsoring is Fox Cities Veteran Council with Tim Cody.

Tim's our longtime customer of ours and he talked about what he was involved in.

We're like, let's get on board with this.

We're one of his sponsors with his golf outing coming up this week.

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

And it's your second annual.

Yeah.

Is anything different last year to this year or are you just expecting bigger numbers pretty much?

Our bigger numbers, but we actually changed it up that we're doing better raffle prizes.

So we used to have kind of an auction at the event, at the end of the event, which was a lot of fun.

A lot of good laughs were cracked.

It was just one of those with the economy, the wells are a little bit dry.

So we thought, you know what, let's crank up the raffles and we'll just donate a portion of the ticket sales.

Pete Schwaba

People love a good raffle.

That's fantastic.

All right, so June 2nd, Smoke and the Fox, Appleton Cigar in accordance with Lion's Tale, I almost said Lion's Tale Brewing in Nina.

It's a great event.

Money goes to a great cause, helps veterans.

Tim Cote is...

Was Tim gonna be there?

He is.

Okay.

Yeah.

When he was here, he had too much to drink.

Should I say that on the air?

No, you're kidding.

I would never say that about Tim.

I don't even know if Tim drinks.

Conrad, does Tim drink?

I have no idea.

Let's start a rumor.

Pete Schwaba

As a Spartaker, I'm never gonna tell.

Are you a Spartaker?

No.

All right, so for people listening that, you know, that maybe haven't smoked cigars before, maybe ever, you know, I'm sure you get like a wide array of people.

You probably get...

novices and you probably get experienced cigar smokers.

So what do you tell people who have never smoked before?

Basically, just get one under your belt.

And if you don't like it, that's okay.

Can you help me understand what you didn't like about it?

And then we can steer you maybe in a different direction.

And so there's so many different varieties of pallets.

People enjoy different foods, different beverages, and we can usually help you find something.

Pete Schwaba

Is it the kind of thing where you get, like is there a brand they should start with?

Like let's say people are just listening and aren't gonna go to smoke on the Fox or can't make it or whatever.

Is there like a type of tobacco they should start with or that beginners

typically start with?

So typically what we start them with is something that has less nicotine content.

Okay.

So going old school, like when we were kids, if we got caught with a pack of cigarettes, our dad probably would have made us smoke the whole thing, right?

Turn us green, we never touch this.

And get you addicted to smoking.

That's the nicotine.

So tobacco naturally has nicotine.

There's no additional nicotine added to it, like what's in cigarettes.

And so it's an all natural product that, yeah, so the lower the nicotine content, the less likely you are to turn green because of it.

And that's usually what most people find objectionable

Pete Schwaba

about.

And you don't like.

You don't inhale cigar smoke.

No

Pete Schwaba

typically I hope not

on a purpose

Pete Schwaba

so So you don't the addictive thing isn't really there with cigars, right?

I mean, I know a lot of people I love the way they smell.

I like the way cocaine smells kidding That's an old joke.

I now I just outed Tim Cote as a boozer and myself as a cokehead But that's the old joke.

I don't do cocaine.

I just like the way it smells anyway.

All right, that's a rough night here.

Okay, so

But it's not something that you can like like could use your you smoke a lot of cigars.

You

know your stuff Could you stop smoking tomorrow?

Oh, absolutely Okay, that's interesting.

Yep.

All the more reason why people should should try it, right?

I think so I mean a lot of what drives it is the is the social aspect There's not a whole man a whole lot of solitary like smoking cigar by themselves kind of people Yeah, it's part of the experience of on the lawn or another barbecue or

Pete Schwaba

Fishing or

poker.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, exactly.

Do you have guys that play poker in your in your shop?

We do.

We have a standing Tuesday night game with Texas hold

Pete Schwaba

them.

Oh, man.

What now?

What are the hours for that?

Game starts at seven and usually we stay open late till about 1130

Pete Schwaba

Conrad.

I'm putting in for a vacation day next Tuesday.

I'll join you giving you

a heads up.

I have

I've had bad luck with the card games.

Like I'd go to a bar where they're doing it, but then they crank like head banging music and they have rebuy ins and all that kind of stuff.

And I was so annoyed.

I went all in hoping to lose to get out of there because it's hard to find a good game, at least where I live.

Right.

So we try to run a friendly game.

So it's tournament style.

It's one buy in, no rebies.

OK.

The table takes home all the winnings.

The house doesn't touch anything.

Pete Schwaba

How many people usually get

anywhere from nine to 14?

Nice.

Pete Schwaba

OK.

Good to know.

OK.

I want to make very clear too, Tim Cote is one of the nicest guys I've ever met.

He has no problems with anything.

I was making a joke, but I do have a serious cocaine problem.

Okay, Norm, I'm kidding.

I

don't want you

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to like it.

But I do love a good cigar.

If you like cigars or if you're curious, check out Appleton Cigar.

They run a great business.

It's a great, and this event is excellent.

Where can people get tickets, Norm?

Appletoncigar.com.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

Easy

as

Pete Schwaba

that.

Simple enough.

And how many people are you anticipating?

Do you know?

About

150.

Nice.

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

And is there a price that gets you into the event or can they, is it pay as you go?

How does that

work?

There's two options.

There's Toro and Toro Grande.

Toro is our entry level package.

Okay.

That gets you into the event.

14 cigars, three drinks with lion's tail.

And then Toro Grande is 20 cigars and four drinks.

That's fantastic.

Pete Schwaba

All right, and you told me last time you were here, you like coffee.

Yeah.

With your cigar.

I thought that was so cool.

And kind of a natural thing, right?

Because you got coffee beans, tobacco,

right?

That's right, yeah.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

Your wife is with you, and I'm not going to put her on the air.

Heather, you're fine, off camera.

But does your wife smoke cigars?

She will, on occasion.

Oh, nice.

Pete Schwaba

And what does your wife like to?

It feels weird that I'm asking you and I can see her in the peripheral here.

Right.

What is Heather like with her cigars?

Her preferred is a placencia.

Alma Forte and Jameson Blackbarrow.

Nice.

Well done, Heather.

Pete Schwaba

That's fantastic.

All right, so check out Smoke on the Fox.

A great event happens June 2nd, folks.

And it's, what are the times again, Norm?

6 to 9

Pete Schwaba

PM.

6 to 9 PM.

Great ticket packages.

Go to AppletonCigar.com if you're interested.

And I could just tell you, folks, I've been in my share, not a ton of cigar shops, but it's just a great atmosphere.

And it's something to be experienced.

And why not jump in feet first with Smoke on the Fox?

The second annual Smoke on the

Pete Schwaba

Fox.

And you like the progress?

It's going to keep going?

Like the progress.

We like what it's doing for the community.

So more about that than anything.

So

Pete Schwaba

that's awesome.

Well, I appreciate you being here, Norm.

And I appreciate you.

We were going to do this tomorrow night, but you said you prefer to do it in person.

A little easier for me to talk when I see who I'm talking to.

Pete Schwaba

I totally get it.

And I, you know, we probably could have kept you for a little longer tomorrow, but I really appreciate.

I know you live a ways away and that's awesome.

So I have to ask you something else.

You have, does the name Norm make you the kind of guy people want to smoke a cigar with?

It's a great cigar smoking name.

Yeah.

Yeah, so I Growing up I always got the cheers reference.

Yeah And so I kind of always wanted the bar and so nice just just from that it was there was a little bit of a touchstone there and so I it's fun walking into the lounge and when it's open and ready and Our regulars are all in there and they shouted out.

Pete Schwaba

They do say

it.

Oh,

Pete Schwaba

yeah I was gonna do that But I figure you've heard that so many times in your life.

It would be like old hat.

It's

No, it's fun

Pete Schwaba

for me

It's a great name.

It's Norm.

It's like a cool guy's name.

And it's a classic name, too.

Yeah, very old

Pete Schwaba

school.

How do you feel about doing a quick movie score quiz?

Let's try it out.

All right.

Conrad, you ready?

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

So

it's not just scores.

There's a couple movies that have the songs.

Oh, OK.

They're really recognizable, so.

Pete Schwaba

All right.

So we've got five questions.

Five,

Pete Schwaba

yes.

All right.

We've got Norm Kapaske in studio from Appleton Cigar.

Check out AppletonCigar.com.

He'll set you up.

He'll even tell you what you should drink with your cigars, folks, because there is an etiquette to this.

And he's going to take our nightlight movie score quiz.

Norm Kepasky, Conrad, number one, if you please.

You know it?

Pretty sure.

Pretty sure this is Indiana Jones.

Pete Schwaba

It is not.

No, wait, don't tell me.

Is that E.T.?

Oh, God.

Do you know it, Heather?

God, how does this bother?

All right,

go ahead.

Marty McFly?

Pete Schwaba

Oh, back to the future.

Oh, now I get it.

All right.

So Norm and I are taking this together.

We'll do this, and we're all for one.

We'll even put our heads together.

All right, number two.

This is a song.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

Bill Murray.

Oh Chevy Chase.

Caddyshack?

Pete Schwaba

Caddyshack!

Norm is on it.

Do we get the ding?

What happened to the game show

one?

Well, I'm using the same program, so I can't use it in the same

Pete Schwaba

game.

Okay, I'm gonna get ready.

We'll do it in stereo.

We're one for two.

Norm got that one.

Caddyshack.

We missed on Back to the Future.

I felt like I should have got that one too.

Here's the next one.

Pete Schwaba

All right, number three.

I'm not giving Norm a hint, but I'm not giving him the answer.

I'm going to go home alone.

Pete Schwaba

Yes.

Double bells.

All right, baby.

That's in stereo.

Norm Kopaski is two for three, ladies and gentlemen.

We both missed the first one.

Number four.

We don't got time for another one.

What?

Pete Schwaba

All right.

We'll have to end it there.

Two for three.

That's

pretty good,

Pete Schwaba

right?

That's pretty good.

Are we out of time already?

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

I blame you, Conrad.

All right.

Hey, thank you guys.

Thank you.

Norm Kopesky.

Heather Kopesky didn't want to say anything.

I didn't, I didn't renege, right?

All right.

We're coming right back with author Laura N. Wright.

So we're going to talk vampires.

Check out Smoke on the Fox.

June 2nd.

Go to AppletonSugar.com for more information.

Have a great time, everybody.

Thanks, Norm.

Thank you.

Pete Schwaba

All right.

We're coming right back.

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Pete Schwaba

I am Pete Schwab.

Great to have you with me on this Thursday night of a short week, presumably.

Hopefully you guys didn't have to work on Monday, but the weekend is right around the corner and we are trying to get you there with some laughs and some insights into all things entertainment here at Night Light.

Our question of the night is, what is your favorite movie score?

I said Midnight Run.

I also love...

the sting, and it's funny, during the break, before I brought Norm onto the show, he said last of the Mohicans, and I have that written

here

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too.

That's one of my top five.

Daniel Day-Lewis, really phenomenal score.

So I meant to bring that up with Norm when he was here in studio.

He did quite well with our quiz.

So that's our question of the night.

Let us know what your favorite movie score is.

As we segue, ladies and gentlemen, this is exciting.

I saw Sinners recently.

I don't know that my next guest has.

We sort of went back and forth and I think she had yet to see it, but either way, she is the author of several books, all of which are very interesting on different topics.

She's written about mobsters.

She's written about the movie Meet the Parents and the journey that screenwriter Greg Liana went through with that film and getting it made through the studio system.

And now...

Laura Enright, folks, joins us tonight to talk about vampires, because she's written two books on the topic, and it is so great to have her back on Nightlight.

Hey, Laura.

I have three books.

Pete Schwaba

Three books?

Two fiction and one nonfiction.

Pete Schwaba

No

kidding.

That's the one that you still have to get in.

Pete Schwaba

So wait, nonfiction.

Okay.

Vampires most wanted.

This is that guy.

Vampires most wanted.

That's the nonfiction one.

That has all the trivia and stuff

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in it.

Okay.

So I saw that on Amazon and I noticed you sent me two other books.

Yeah, I sent you this one.

It just it was out of stock when I

Pete Schwaba

sent it.

No, that's listen, that's I love getting free books, but I'm not.

But but explain the nonfiction part of it because these are fiction books and we'll talk about those as well.

But when you write about vampires, which supposedly don't exist, how do you

write

Pete Schwaba

nonfiction?

Well, it's, you know, I wrote the book Chicago's Most Wanted, and it's a book of trivia about Chicago, and it's put out by Potomac Press.

Well, Potomac Press asked me to write another one, and I thought, well, vampires, I was trying to work on vampire novels, you know, to work on vampire novels.

So I said, I'll try this, maybe I'll get my foot in the door with publishing the novels.

It's it's basically just like you know each chapter is devoted to a particular thing like I do have movies in there.

I have music I have legends And what I found as I was reading it was it's kind of amazing how much there is out there on the subject if you did

Yeah, it's

really kind of fascinating and we're sort of been trained to just think in terms of

one particular or two particular style of vampires, but there's a whole world.

They're there in like most cultures.

So it's kind of, it was kind of interesting.

Pete Schwaba

You mean, you mean the lore is there

or the legend?

Okay.

Well, there are some people who do believe they're vampires.

Pete Schwaba

You know that I know there are and I met, I don't know where I was at casting call or something and they were.

in the next room, they were looking for actual vampires.

It was a different project, probably a low budget horror or something, but there were people that showed up with fangs, and I assume they were fake, but they claimed to be vampires.

I was kind of, I was like in my early 20s at the time, I didn't want to ask questions.

I was scared.

I was like, are they going to try to bite me?

Whether they're vampires or not, are they going to actually act like them?

It was a little intimidating.

What's been your experience?

Have you ever met someone who claims to actually be a vampire?

No, no.

I mean, I've met some energy vampires who sap your energy, but as far as, you know, some of them, some of the ones who believe they're vampires will go as far as getting implants.

Yes, you know and but it's it's I think that was big especially around the time of Anne Rice's books

coming out

and It kind of gives people a chance who may be who may feel on the outskirts of society or for whatever It gives them a chance to feel included

right,

you know, they they it's like anybody enjoying something so

Wow.

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

Well, these days, I mean, people claim to be whatever they want to be.

And I

don't

Pete Schwaba

care.

It doesn't affect me, but that would be intimidating.

Oh, I think meeting someone with implants, you know,

at the first date.

Yeah,

Pete Schwaba

exactly.

Hey, that you left that off your Tinder profile.

So where did the idea and maybe you don't know this.

I don't expect you to be an expert.

You wrote two great fiction books.

But where's the idea?

of the vampire come from who started it do you know i

don't know if anyone in particular started it i think at the core of the vampire is the notion of the parasitic creature and it needs to feed off others to live and it can be blood it can be energy i don't know if you ever watched what we do in the shadows the the movie or the tv show a couple episodes

Oh, it's fantastic.

The TV show has an energy vampire in there.

So it's like, you know, it could be that.

The classic Star Trek did a story about a salt vampire where the woman had to suck salt to survive.

So it's that kind of thing.

And you see that, you know, when it comes to blood, blood is so sacred in so many cultures and so many religions and thoughts and stuff that, of course, that really...

makes it but I think it's more the notion you're gonna have like for example what I what I discovered was a lot of the cultures like around the world it was often about a cautionary tale so don't do this or you're turned into a vampire don't do this against society or you'll turn into a vampire that sort of thing or

you

maybe you know don't go into the woods because you might end up being

caught by a vampire so it's that they had some one where if you did business over I think it was in Greece if you did business over a coffin the person inside might turn into a vampire so you see that a lot in a lot of the the ancient the ancient legends and lore you know it's changed a lot over the centuries

Pete Schwaba

How kind of business do you do over a coffin?

Was it like a?

Maybe, maybe paying for the coffin.

Gentleman's

Pete Schwaba

better, something, yeah.

All right.

He's getting out of that coffin if you don't pay for it right

Pete Schwaba

now.

Yeah, all right.

Author Laura Enright is here on Nightlight, spending some time with us.

We are going to do the news, and then we are going to jump into her two vampire books, which are really cool.

And that is all coming up next on Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.

And we'll read your text, too.

Keep those texts coming, folks.

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Night Light.

Great to have you with me on this Thursday night.

Tomorrow night on the show, Wisconsin Film Incentive Advocate Rex Sykes will be here at 6.35.

Civic Media Sports Director Jimmy Kosko will be here at 7.05.

But he is going to talk about Andor.

He just binge watched both seasons.

He's a huge fan.

And we'll talk, we'll talk to Jimmy about that at 7.05.

Always fun to talk TV with Jim.

And then it is Bar Band Friday night.

Terry Barr will not be here.

She's

taking a well-deserved vacation, but her partner at Max Inc Radio, which you should listen to every night, or I'm sorry, every Saturday night from six to midnight here on the Civic Media Radio Network, rocker will be here filling in for Terry.

So great show tomorrow night as well.

Right now we have a few more minutes with our current guest, author Laura Enright.

She's a Chicago based author who was written about the mob, written about the movies.

And tonight we're talking about her two

Well, three vampire books, but two fictional, two fictional vampire books.

I'm holding the first one up here.

For those of you watching on the stream, it's called To Touch the Sun.

Laura, tell us a little bit about this book.

Was this your first book?

I was looking at it before.

Is it your first vampire book?

It's my first vampire book.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's, um, it's, it tells a story of a young man who, um, from India who fought in the, in the First World War and

Through what I call feral's feral vampires.

He's transformed into what is a sentient vampire And it's kind of one of the things I always liked about the idea of vampires is exploring the sort of victim of circumstances idea So what I wanted

to people my books with were crazy vampires, intelligent vampires, you know, good, evil, you don't get a moral compass just because you turned into a vampire.

So I wanted to explore how this very ethical, moral young man has to then maneuver his life through his life.

And at some point when the book starts, he's lost

the woman that he's loved and has also been his food source.

She's died.

So now he has to go back to what he considers like pickpocketing.

He doesn't have to kill the host, but he does have to feed or, you know, it forces, nature forces him.

So, um, yeah, that's kind of where that is

Pete Schwaba

at.

So all right, for those of us who are novices, when it comes to vampires, what does that mean?

Can you break that down a little bit?

You got a feral vampire, an Ascension vampire.

Does, uh, and the main character's name is, is it Narain Khan?

Narain, yeah.

Narain

Pete Schwaba

Khan.

Okay.

Does he come to, is this set in Chicago?

It is.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, so he's a,

he comes over.

When it opens.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

And, uh, so he's bit, obviously.

He's bitten.

Yeah.

And he becomes

open.

Oh, I forgot.

He's, he came, he came to Chicago decades before he opened a restaurant.

Okay.

So.

He's also a cook.

So that was one of his dreams when he was younger.

And the world world one kind of almost lost it on him.

But then he was able to achieve it through this woman that he met, um, I think in the forties.

And then when she died by that time, he's, he's had a really famous restaurant in Chicago.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

So, so tell us the difference between a feral and ascension vampire.

So a feral vampire is something that is, it's just about feeding.

It's like a shark.

It's just about feeding.

ascension vampire can move among people this and this is just something i i termed but you

see it in

other shows as well you

know you see

in other things but uh they can move uh among society and and be able to when i when i was researching vampires most wanted i was reading on the director of nasferatu and murnau and he um i thought he stated that when he was in the war

They were sitting on the by the trenches and they looked out over no man's land and they saw these figures.

But what he actually stated was that he had listened to the stories of the people, the townspeople in, you know, nearby the trenches and stuff.

But in my mind, I transformed it.

So I thought it was the coolest idea to have

these feral vampires just basically taking advantage of because they were dead and dying in no man's land.

A lot of times they couldn't go out and get the bodies.

So, you know, because there's snipers from each side.

So I just thought that was a cool idea.

And that's kind of what happened tonight.

Pete Schwaba

Totally.

All right.

And then I wanted to ask you, when you say food source to a vampire, is that some I don't even want to guess because I'm just such a novice.

So please explain that.

Um, basically just later what he needs to in my books, for example, it's a, it's a microbial disease that takes over the body.

So the microbes need the sustenance that they get from blood specifically.

Okay.

Um, and a lot of things, a lot of like tales are doing more and more scientific ideas when it comes to this, but that's kind of how it is.

Uh, food source, we discussed it earlier.

Food source can be, I remember the ex files had an episode once of a guy who needed to suck fat out.

She was speaking of dates.

He would get blind dates, and then he'd suck the fat out of the girls.

So yeah, that's basically the food source.

And in my vampires, they don't suck them dry.

There are some tales where they suck them dry, where they can't control themselves.

Ferals in my books can't control themselves very well.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, that's really interesting.

And I

think I

Pete Schwaba

remember that episode of the X-Files to be honest with you.

Author Laura Enright is my guest.

She's a Chicago based writer and has written several books.

And we're talking about two of her books tonight about vampires here on Nightlight.

So where can people find, I love that title too, by the way, to touch the sun, which for vampires is a great, you know, kind of conundrum

there.

Yeah.

Where can people find that?

You can go to laura-enright.com and I have links to the books on there.

Or you can get them on Amazon.

Pete Schwaba

Are there places you can get them other than Amazon?

Because I know some of our listeners are trying not to give more money to Amazon.

Yeah.

I think, unfortunately, at this point, they are a little older books.

I think at this point, it really Amazon is the only one who has them.

Unless you go to a bookstore.

There you go.

And maybe you can get them that way.

But, you know, order them, special order them.

The ones that I wrote those, the first one was 2008, I think it was published and 2014.

2014.

Yeah.

And so

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it

was, but unfortunately the publisher didn't last.

It was a small publisher.

So I now need to go find, because I have all sorts of other books, ideas for the series.

So I have to find a new publisher.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, I'm

sure

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that's fun.

I have to say, I feel like with, you know, the remake of Naseratu that was out last fall and Sinner's that there's probably going to be a renewed, it's probably a cyclical thing, right?

With vampires

like,

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oh, we haven't heard from a vampire story in five or 10 years.

Now they're back.

Tell us about the second book.

And I don't want to attempt to say this name, but here

is the.

Ujjali.

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Ujjali.

Okay.

I'm holding it up.

That's a name.

That's somebody's name.

Um, it's hard.

I'm, I, there's a little bit of a twist in there, but it's basically, um, an act that Narene did after he turned into a vampire, he went back home and act he did then has repercussions down the center, down the decades.

And now he has to deal with, um, basically ghosts, the ghosts coming back to haunt them sort of thing.

You know, that's that sort of

Pete Schwaba

thing.

Okay.

That's interesting.

Um, so.

So look for these books folks.

I how much research did you have to do like like, you know, I'm a writer too I think you know that and I

a big

thing with me and our mutual friend Greg when we would write Just movies but

Yeah, I'm not smart enough to write a book.

I just want to say that right now I don't I don't know how you do it as a like movies You have parameters and page marks you have to kind of hit plot points that kind of thing The idea of writing a book to me seems so overwhelming But do you have to make this plausible in any way?

Do you create the parameters within this world since it's fantasy a fantasy thriller or how does that work?

Yeah, I mean like with I needed to for my own self even I needed a grounded reason for vampirism So once I decided it would be a microbial disease sort of thing then I could take it from there and then you also you have to world build basically about you know Can all the tropes can can the sunlight hurt them?

That's not in every tale, but I might be in my tail at this other two other tropes that are found

Do you want to use them?

And if you do, how do you use it with the way you're building that world?

So, yeah, it could be.

I did a lot of research on World War I to get that idea right, to get the vibe

right.

And actually it was really fascinating.

I mean, we don't know enough about that war.

I mean, as far as like, we're not taught enough about that war.

It's a really fascinating war.

Pete Schwaba

Did you see, what recent vampire films have you seen?

Did you get to see centers or did

you?

Pete Schwaba

Oh, tell me your thoughts, please.

I thought it was fantastic.

It was brilliant.

You know, what's interesting about it was, and I'm not giving really that much away, the vampires don't play a huge portion in the beginning of the movie.

Right.

But you're still so sucked in by the, the, the filming, the directing, the music was fantastic.

And there was actually even a poetry to the dialogue that I thought was, you're just so gripped by that.

You're like, okay, I'll go, you know, if you're a vampire fan or something, I'm like, okay, I'll go along for the ride and see what happens.

And it does, it works great.

It's fantastic.

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It was so great.

And you're right, the, the vampires, it's kind of fun because you know it's coming.

but they do make you wait, and it's kind of a long, I think it's over two hours, but I wonder if they added that scene, like, and again, I'm not, this isn't really a spoiler, but at the beginning, a kid comes into a church covered with blood holding a guitar, and

his dad

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is the preacher, so, and he has these flashbacks where you know horrible things happen, and then you don't see the vampires for like an hour.

And I wonder if the studio made them put that in just to say, hey, something's on the way here, and it's pretty creepy.

They might have I remember when I watched it I was like it was such an excellent storytelling device.

Yeah to get to the next deal But yeah, they might have decided that you know, we got to put this in

Pete Schwaba

What what What are some other things about vampires like I love that they can't touch the Sun or not touch the Sun but be in the Sun and that's a great thing about sinners at the end

One

of them

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says, I haven't seen the sun in however many years he's been alive.

I love that creepy, weird element.

But also, sinners played into the idea that they had to be invited in, which I forgot

about.

Yeah.

That's a really cool idea from legend, from lore.

You also have something similar where the vampire, not in this movie, but the vampire can only feast on its relatives sort of thing.

Oh, wow.

So, but yeah, I love that idea that, you know, you can't let the right one in was that very same one.

I don't know if you're familiar with that film.

I think it was from Sweden.

Sweden.

Yeah.

It's a Swedish vampire film.

Check it out.

It's gorgeous.

It's wonderful.

And it had that's where the title is from.

Let the right one in is like the vampire in there has to request to enter the house of the person that she has befriended.

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And it was so fun in centers trying to get them.

to get themselves invited.

I know.

We

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have someone listening on the stream, Deirdre Edwards says, Laura Enright, amazing.

And then she

sent

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another text in, Deirdre Edwards, Laura Enright, very interesting.

And I totally agree.

Thank you, Deirdre,

for listening.

Thank you so much.

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

And then our mutual friend, Greg Liana, says, Pete, you like cigars, not when I used to smoke them, where we used to write.

All right, Greg thinks he's got this big gotcha moment.

Greg

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smokes them every day.

I'm not that guy.

me to insinuate that I am.

Laura, this is really

fun.

It could be heady though.

It could be heady though.

When you're smoking a cigar, you're trying to concentrate.

Pete Schwaba

And Greg smells like cigar smoke anyway, so I got

the

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residual effect.

Thank you so much, my friend.

Let's do this again.

Keep up the great

work and

Pete Schwaba

keep us posted on anything you're working on.

Hey, can I mention really quickly a score of a person, an author of a score?

Pete Schwaba

Absolutely.

We have about 20 seconds.

Please,

though.

Okay, doesn't get enough love.

Anymore Coney.

Pete Schwaba

Who?

Oh, yeah,

I know that.

He did the spaghetti Westerns.

Pete Schwaba

Oh,

no.

Clint Eastwood Westerns?

Those scores are gorgeous.

So yeah, I would check out.

They're like the best of and more funny.

Fantastic.

Thank you so

Pete Schwaba

much.

Great, great choice, Laura.

All

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right, have

a great night.

Thank you so much.

You're very

Pete Schwaba

welcome.

All right, take care.

Bye-bye.

We're coming right back

Kathryn Lake

to wrap things up and read your texts.

It's Nightlight with Peach Waba.

Pete Schwaba

This is Nightlight with P. Schwabba.

Fun show tonight.

Thank you to Laura Enright for being here and discussing her vampire books.

Thank you to Norm Kepesky.

Enjoy Smoke on the Fox, everybody.

Check it out if you're in the area.

And, of course, Mary Bacourny-Donald, who did the popcorn pick of the week, and suggested Sinners, and that was an excellent choice.

I should also point out this is National Wisconsin Day, Conrad.

What have you done to honor our fair state?

You

Pete Schwaba

got a brewer's jersey on, that's something.

Yeah, exactly.

I'm supporting the brewers.

I drove on Wisconsin roads.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, well done.

You're a taxpayer.

We could close the show with a-

Oh, you know

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what else I'd

like?

I ate some cheese today.

Oh, there you go.

Pete Schwaba

I think

that celebrates

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it right there.

Did you eat cheese yesterday?

Well, yeah.

Pete Schwaba

Every day is Wisconsin Day.

Our question of the night, folks, was, what is your favorite movie score?

Christine from Slinger says, that's the 414, by the way.

She says, Fan of the Opera, Andrew Lloyd Webber score.

Excellent, Christine.

There's some great music in that show.

Lori from Hayward says, Irving Berlin's White Christmas.

Don't know if it's actually, or per se.

She said, don't know if it's actually score, but nonetheless, it's a classic.

Lori, thank you, and that totally counts.

Very well done.

Laurie also tried to correct herself.

She said that was supposed to say, I didn't know what to actually score, but nonetheless, it's a classic and I could not agree more.

Jamison from Pennsylvania, he's in the 814 says, favorite score film, The Rocketeer.

Very nice.

The composer was James Horner.

He was great, did so many movies, Titanic, Braveheart, Apollo 13, Field of Dreams, Avatar and much more.

Excellent choice, Jamison.

I don't know.

He's just one of those, those are great credits.

All I remember was going to see the Rocketeer with Jimmy Pardo on the road, and I bought my ticket first.

I said one for the Rocketeer, and he went up behind me and said one for Oscar please, which was the Sylvester Stallone movie playing in the next theater.

And it was a fun inside joke.

All right, Jeneen from, I'm sorry, Clint from Wannakee, that's the 608 folks.

Representin' tonight.

Tangerine Dream, the soundtrack for Thief with James Kahn.

That is an awesome choice, Clint.

They did a lot of Michael Mann stuff.

I think they did a lot of the music in Manhunter.

And maybe even Heat.

Awesome choice.

Bridget from the 818 says, Last of the Mohicans is my favorite.

It captures the film's tone so well.

The emotions, the score evokes are the highlight of the film.

And she's in cahoots with Norm from Appleton Cigar, who said the same thing, and I could not agree more.

Last of the Mohicans is a great one.

Steady Eddie, weighing in.

It's about time, Steady Eddie.

Thought we missed you tonight.

He says my favorite movie score was from the movie Rudy.

The score was Notre Dame, 27, Georgia Tech 14, Yay, Rudy, Go Irish.

Steady Eddie.

Do you remember the Rudy score?

Oh,

Pete Schwaba

I remember

that.

I haven't seen that movie in a while.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, same.

I didn't know that either.

All right.

Turning to the text, we got to play catch up here.

Dave says, Forrest Gump.

Forrest Gump.

That was the pregnant Forrest Gump.

Forrest Gump, that's a great one, Dave.

The music throughout that movie is excellent.

The songs and the score.

That's a music phenomenon as a movie.

He says, I think we should Dave continues and says, I think we should do a let's dress Pete game, either Conrad or the audience picks.

This is probably because I made a joke about my Elton John sunglasses

or

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glasses.

Why do we keep calling them sunglasses?

And I had Norm sitting here and you know, I don't get, I'm very comfortable with my masculinity, but Norm is like a dude.

You see this guy?

He's like, he's like stacked.

He's like, you know, stout, whatever they call it.

He's got that voice.

And the beard and the beard It'd be great if he was like a high tenor falsetto Yeah norms all dude, that's awesome, and I was just making a joke.

I love my Elton John glasses They rule Dave says if you haven't always we're talking about urinals before and Dave says you haven't been to Wrigley impede in a trough that is even more animalistic

You know there's a bar I'd go to in Milwaukee that had that there.

It's like why?

Why is it hard to put a urinal in

Pete Schwaba

here?

I mean

It's just cause like, I don't know.

I don't think, I think urinals are weird.

Yeah.

I mean, it's even weirder.

Pete Schwaba

Especially without the dividers.

I mean, I use them, whatever, but those troughs are like, here's what we think of you gentlemen.

Whip them out and go to town.

And Wrigley's weird.

And I didn't know if they had him at county stadium or not, but I remember as a kid looking down and seeing like 30 dudes, you know, like you're a kid just like, what is going on in here?

Nick Wallander says, let the right one in is phenomenal.

The original is great.

The American remake is good, but loses some of the atmosphere.

Nick is crushing it tonight.

He's on like every single.

He's banging on all cylinders.

Dave also says, I said that well before she did.

Oh, that's funny.

And then Greg Liena closing things out says, Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein.

Great score.

I remember that.

That is a great movie.

And I'm totally due for a rewatch on that one, Greg.

If you have not seen Abbott and Castellum Meet Frankenstein, it is an absolute classic and an absolute fun movie.

Scary.

To a kid, anyway.

I was scared.

And I remember my buddy John Corwin.

who's my dad's friend really passed away about a week and a half ago said, when he watched Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein, he was like seven years old.

It's a small town, Wisconsin kid.

He had a loaded shotgun under the couch.

Seven year old.

Like it's funny, the things you learn about people after they pass away, like such great stories that John has, good stuff.

Hey, thanks everybody.

It was really fun tonight.

This was fun.

We'll do it all again tomorrow night.

We'll close out the week, hopefully.

in positive fashion.

Conrad, what do you foresee tomorrow night being like?

We've got Bar Band Friday.

I think it's going to be a great,

Pete Schwaba

it's going to be a great Christmas day.

Because this is the Christmas.

Exactly.

Of weeknights.

I totally agree.

And Happy Wisconsin.

It's our, we are the 30th state.

Right?

I believe that's a state since 1940 you have a 30 state like that that's kind of cool

in 1840

Pete Schwaba

Wisconsin's a dream I came here it is kid all the time and it was like the promised land it was so much fun and now to live here full-time is pretty cool and do you have something we can close that really shows our love

All right folks tomorrow night is a barbeque Friday night rocker filling in for Terry Barr Film incentive advocate rec Sykes and our pal Jimmy Cusco is gonna talk about and or his favorite of all the Star Wars We'll do that all tomorrow night again on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad good night,

Wisconsin

Kathryn Lake

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