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Wisconsin’s Film Future and Park Passion (Hour 2)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Tue May 6, 2025
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
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It is time for nightlight.
It is great to be here.
Great to have you with me.
This is a fun show tonight, folks.
You're here on a gorgeous night.
It's so nice outside.
If you go outside in the nice weather, it's just gonna overwhelm you.
So pull the family around the radio, stay indoors, and listen to the radio.
And let's talk about movies and TV.
And tonight, Parks...
and film incentives and a comedy competition in Oshkosh.
So much fun stuff going on here tonight.
Great to have you.
And yeah, we're gonna do it.
Conrad, how you doing?
I'm doing great.
Do you know who the king of LFG is?
I don't know.
I think it's Tom Brady.
Is it really?
God, I'm stealing Tom Brady's phrases.
Why do you say that?
He started that?
Well, I don't think he actually started, but before every game, he runs to the crowd, screams LFG, fist bumps, and runs back.
He could be saying, let's floss gingerly.
That could be what it, you
know.
No, he doesn't say the acronym.
He says the actual words.
Yeah.
Let's floss gingerly.
Whatever reason, it gets his team wound up.
That intimidates the bonus right
there.
He gets
it done.
That's why
he's the goat.
I don't even know if he's the goat.
You know, I watched a really funny video last night and I don't know what your feelings are on Skip Bayless.
Kind of a tool.
But whatever.
So there's this, uh, there's this YouTube page called Jubilee and they mainly they were doing like they had one politician in the middle and then they surround him by a bunch of regular people.
Okay.
And
us commoners.
And then they set a clock.
and then people have to run to the chair to try to argue with
them.
Oh, so it's like a privilege to see who gets to go head to head with
me?
Yes.
So they did one with Skip Bayless, okay?
Okay.
And he claims that Tom Brady is the goat and Patrick Mahomes is over... He said laughably overrated.
He is such a clown.
You don't know how many people disagreed with him.
They had great points about it.
Like, the only thing you could come back to was Patrick Malone's Super Bowl losses.
Like, yeah.
But Brady's got three of them.
Yeah.
Brady could just, Brady's seven and three, he could
just
as easily be five and five or four and six.
Yeah.
I mean, he's not, and you got to give him credit.
That's like people saying, I'll take Jordan off the bulls.
Well, he's on the bulls.
But it's the same thing with Brady.
And he is great.
The
guy
got the 10 Super Bowls.
You can't argue with
that.
No, you can't.
And I just think it's hilarious if you get to watch that.
You're just gonna be like skip.
Why did you do this to yourself?
I'll tell you why he does it to himself because he's laughing all the way to the bank.
He says crazy crap and people hate him and Stephen A Smith is controversial when they were on the show together.
They both would say stuff.
Although I feel like Stephen A Smith is really speaking what he believes whether you agree with it or not.
Skip Bayless.
I just think he's a clown.
He actually like he says LeBron is his in his top 10 NBA players.
He says LeBron is number nine on his list.
Ooh.
See, again,
hot take
or
something just to rile people up.
The phone lines from Cleveland are lighting up.
Yeah, he's a dope.
But I think let's floss gingerly is a great
way to get a team
riled up, especially in a context.
Combat
sport.
Can you imagine, like Anderson
Silva?
Brian from Green Bay.
I just saw that, yeah.
Have you seen Brady's
teeth?
Definitely a flosser.
Chuck Cecil?
Not so much.
I've never seen Chuck Cecil's teeth.
The way
he played, I'd be surprised if he still has some.
Great text, Brian.
That was awesome.
Yeah, thank you.
We got a couple of texts I got to get to from last night.
Bud texted in at 4.43 in the morning and on godly hour.
But that's when Bud's up.
That's when he does his best work.
What was our, it was Teen Movies last night, right?
It was a question.
So
Bart chimes in overnight.
He listens to the rebroadcast from four to six, which I think is great.
And Bud says, Hey Pete and Conrad with a K. Nicely done, bud.
My wife and I subscribed to a service that would send us movies on VHS tapes.
We still have them.
Oh wow, right now?
That's impressive.
He says we still have them, but we don't have a working VHS player.
Some titles of Teen Movies included the Buttercream Gang.
The Sandlot and my favorite Rigoletto or Rigoletto love the show but from Jamesville.
Thank you, bud.
I've not heard of two of those I have to be honest the Sandlot's an absolute classic and The VHS thing might have been a joke, but there's a store in Madison that rents out VHS tapes this guy's like he has this really cool shop right off State Street and I wonder if that's the place he gets his tapes from but texted again
11 minutes later, he had another thought while he was driving around Madtown.
Yes, he did.
He says, oh, and hey, Pete, I was also a subscriber to Columbia House Music Cassettes, 14 cassettes for one cent, but I should have read the fine print.
He's probably still paying those off now.
He says, still love the show.
11 minutes later, I'm glad Bud still loves the show.
So thank you, Bud.
And he's actually in Jamesville.
Okay, not Madison.
For some reason, I thought Bud was in Madison.
So Brian also says, use the Google.
for to see Cecil's teeth.
I guess.
You're
welcome to Google that if you like.
You can share the post in the stream if you like.
I'm kind of curious to see his teeth.
Great show tonight, folks.
A great night for you to be here.
We're gonna cover a few different topics tonight.
This will be fun.
We've got Cliff Wall will be here at...
in the seven o'clock hour.
He is on the Friends of Wisconsin State Parks Board.
We're going to talk about all the cool things you can do in Wisconsin State Parks this summer.
We have amazing state parks here.
I hope they are not under attack like so much other stuff that we share is.
But Cliff will be here and he can give us kind of the lowdown of what to expect, what's going to happen this summer, some of the cool events, the trails.
That's going to be fun.
Cliff was here a few weeks ago with Sam Venese, trying to get, they're part of that group, trying to get Jack Venese into the Hall of Fame.
The NFL Hall of Fame.
Cliff was a great guest, and I said, you know, it'd be great to come back and talk about the parks.
And he agreed.
So he will be here in the second hour.
I'm working my way back, Conrad.
705, we've got Ko O'Neill.
That is his name.
Ko, CO, how cool is that?
Ko will be here.
Ko is a professor at UW-Stout.
He is actively involved in Action Wisconsin, which is the group trying to bring film incentives to Wisconsin.
And we just found out yesterday, or I just found out yesterday, although I think it was kind of a last minute thing, the House Ways and Means Committee here in Wisconsin is gonna hear, they're gonna have a hearing about the bill.
So we'll know more tomorrow, but Co will be here to kind of fill us in, maybe help us figure out how we can help support them, or just let us know kind of where things are at.
Another cool thing I found out about Co is he used to work for George Lucas.
He worked at Lucas Film Limited, which is really cool.
So I was gonna ask
him about that too, yeah.
But now he's chilling in stout teaching art design and video production and I think screenwriting.
So looking forward to meeting Co at 705 and then at 635.
Ben Giles.
This guy's on the move, man.
He is an Oshkosh.
I think he's an Oshkosh resident.
We didn't cover this yesterday, but he has a comedy competition.
He's trying to find the funniest comedian in Oshkosh.
And they're doing it at the Oshkosh Arena May 10th.
And he is the founder of, I think it's laughable productions.
But Ben will be here at 635 to tell us about this really cool event that you can still go to.
It's at the Oshkosh Arena.
Have you ever been there?
You know where that is?
I have not been there, actually.
It sounds huge, because the word arena
is used.
I mean,
I hope it's not like a 20,000-seater, and they got 80 people in the crowd.
I think that's awesome and
I
love that he's doing this and we'll talk to Ben about that and give you guys some more information about that too.
So that's your lineup on tonight's show.
Parks, film incentives, and comedy competitions should be fun.
Great to have you with me.
Let's get to the question of the night, shall we?
Let's talk about the question.
Okay, question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
Okay, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Questions.
All right, summer is here, or so it would seem.
Maybe we'll get snow this weekend.
I don't know.
I hope not.
But it is gorgeous outside.
Here in Northeast Wisconsin.
I know it's gorgeous where you are in Wisconsin.
The whole state is beautiful today.
Summer's here.
And it's National Beverage Day.
So tonight's question is what is your favorite cool summer drink?
What do you like to, what do you find refreshing on a hot summer day?
Let us know.
You can also share how you like to drink it.
You like to sit on the stoop, on the deck.
or you'd like to drink your summer drink too.
But that's the question.
What is your favorite cool summer drink?
Let us know at 855-752-4842-855-75 Civic.
You can also text us on the Civic Media app, which as you know is very easy to use.
And if you're watching on the stream on YouTube, Facebook, or X, you can text us there too.
Text us on the stream.
So let's do some... Well, I'll read those next.
But I think that's a good question.
What would you...
What
would your
answer be?
You know, I have two.
Like, there's one alcoholic and then one non.
I'm gonna do that too.
And my favorite alcoholic is mojito.
Yeah.
It's so refreshing.
It just tastes, it doesn't taste like super sweet, like those other drinks, I think.
I think you can have more than one and still be like, yeah, I really enjoy this drink.
And then my non-alcoholic, it'd probably be an Arnold Palmer.
Yeah, that's a pretty good one too.
And I'm actually, I'm drinking it right now.
Oh, look at you.
I'm going to say, I'm going to agree with you a half.
I like, I'll do non-alcoholic first.
I like a non-alcoholic beer and I'm not a beer drinker.
It's when I quit booze temporarily.
I've discovered the joy of blue moon non-alcoholic.
So
that would be my summer drink.
It tastes very, it's delicious.
My summer drink, and this is kind of weird.
I'm going to do it, I'm going to over explain this, but it would be probably a margarita, but a double.
Because margaritas, in my opinion, typically are too sweet.
So I like a nice, strong margarita.
You obviously can't drink as many of them, but on a summer day, give me a margarita.
As a refreshing drink, I also like a great martini.
Like, kind of with half dirt.
Some olive juice, but a nice martini with olives shaken.
But I like that.
I like that any time of the year.
I'm gonna say margarita.
and a Blue Moon non-alcoholic.
So you don't have to share non-alcoholic drinks, folks.
I know that's not as fun, but just share whatever it is your favorite cool summer drink is.
We'd love to hear it and we'll read it on the radio.
We have a caller?
Yes, we do.
Cindy from Appleton.
Cindy from Appleton.
It's about time.
How
you
been?
Good.
No, I'm not really so good.
I actually have shingles, which I'm telling you is a pain in the ass.
Oh my God.
Pain everywhere.
I'm sorry to hear that.
That's terrible.
Yeah.
It is terrible, but anyway my two favorite drinks for the summer alcoholic non my alcoholic beverage is a really icy cold Good sangria.
Oh nice choice
Yep, of course my non-alcoholic is water with a lemon or a lime or a cucumber water is always my favorite
And you know what to me Cindy the water the lemon makes it too.
That's a fantastic That makes it refreshing I wouldn't thank you for the call and I would encourage you
to drink as much sangria as you can to get through shingles.
That's terrible.
The only thing is I can't drink alcohol with the medication,
so.
Oh, says who.
Just tell him a guy on the
radio said it was okay.
Okay, doc.
Thank you, Sid.
Have a great night and get better soon.
Okay.
Boy, I had a shingles shot, the vaccine, which to some people basically gives you shingles or
condensed version of it that lasts for like anywhere from 18 to 24 to 30 hours.
And if shingles is worse than how the vaccine made me feel, I feel bad for anybody with shingles.
So I've never had it.
I hope never to get it.
And so far, the vaccine has kept it away from me.
But you do get a little taste of it.
It's not fun.
All right, when we come back, I'm going to read your texts.
And Conrad and I are going to play.
If you guys missed this last Friday.
The big debate on the internet was can 100 men or women defeat a silverback gorilla?
Well Conrad and I took one on.
We're going to replay that next and read your texts.
Fun night here.
Great to have you with me.
It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Welcome back tonight, folks.
I'm Pete Schwabba, your host for this evening's program.
Great to have you with me on this beautiful night here in the state of Wisconsin.
So I just want to say, too, if there are any teachers listening, my wife is a teacher, and I see how hard they work.
It is National Teacher Appreciation Day.
So for all you do...
Thank you, teachers.
They're kind of under attack in a lot of public school districts, but they work so hard.
And I know people say, oh, they get summers off.
They really don't get the whole summer off.
Most of them are in their classroom quite a bit during the summer.
And used to be, if you were a teacher, you got great benefits and all that stuff.
That's gone too.
So these teachers go into the profession knowing that they are never going to be rich from what they do and they do it.
because they love to work with kids.
So tip of my hat to all teachers.
If any of you are listening, thank you for teaching our kids.
National Teacher Appreciation Day.
It's also National Beverage Day.
And the first day of summer, well, kind of.
So our question of the night is, what is your favorite cool summer drink?
And we've got, do we have a call?
Yes, we do.
It's Brian from Milwaukee.
Brian from Milwaukee, get out of town.
Hey, buddy, how are you?
Yeah, I'm out of time.
I'm actually on this side of Milwaukee, and you're in Green Bay But no, I hope you guys are doing well.
We're doing great.
I got a few summer drinks.
Yeah Lay them out.
I'm glad you guys are doing well.
Yeah, please.
Alcoholic drink would be a dirty Shirley.
Oh, yeah.
I always love the I always love the What are they called Shirley?
Yeah, so it's just the alcoholic version which is with the vodka
And then a dirty Harry is actually taking the same thing as a Shirley Temple, except it uses the club soda.
It uses like Coke and I think gin or something like that or whiskey, depending on how you want it.
I also do love a good root beer float.
And then there's also like an orange cream float that I've done before with
vanilla ice cream and orange soda.
That's really good too.
Those are fantastic.
And you know something?
I had one of those probably two years ago and I forgot they existed.
And I'm like, it's almost not better than a root beer float because root beer float has like history on its side.
But yeah, those
are
delicious.
Awesome.
Great
choices.
Absolutely.
Love them.
So
hoist one tonight for me
and stay
in town,
Brian.
Don't get out of town.
Stay in Milwaukee.
Thanks for the call buddy.
Appreciate it.
All right.
Let's go to the, what do we do?
Let's do some texts.
We'll read some texts.
From the social media, we post the question on social media folks on our Facebook page.
You're welcome to check that out during the day.
If you want and chime in on the question throughout the day, Mike on social media says lemonade.
You can't go wrong with lemonade.
I know Mike and I don't think he drinks.
So that's a good, we're getting a lot of non-alcoholic, very responsible.
Daniel Wheeler says, John Daly, it's an Arnold Palmer 50-50 lemonade and iced tea with vodka added.
They really helped my golf game, too.
I bet they do.
Well, you are a crappy golfer if drinking helps.
Oh, helps me.
It makes it more fun.
I'd have to drink to get through a round of golf, I think.
Our pal Emerson Layman from WBAYTV here in Green Bay says, I drink roughly three gallons of Arnold Palmer's a week.
That's a lot.
That's a lot.
He must spend most of his time in the restroom because it's tea.
Yeah, that's a lot.
Ice tea and lemonade.
It's like basically almost a half a gallon a day.
Yeah.
But you could do worse.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Emerson, he's got the money.
He can do anything, drink.
Have we ever, have you ever drank with Emerson?
No.
Maybe he doesn't drink because he didn't answer.
He answered a platonic drink, if you will.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Thank you, buddy.
Good to hear from you, Emerson.
Todd Michaels says a rhubarb slush.
Todd,
can you please text what that
is?
I think I know.
It's just a rhubarb flavored like the icy.
Think of like when you go to the movie theater and they have an icy but it's rhubarb flavor and it's not as sweet and they put booze in there.
My mom's family, the Murphy's used to put like, they live in Sussex and they were one of the first people to move to Sussex back in like the early 80s.
You could still see downtown Milwaukee from their hill.
Now it's all built up around there, but we used to sit up there.
We, I didn't do it.
I was a kid, but the adults used to sit up there and drink these like brandy slushies on
a
summer night.
And I remember as a kid going, I cannot wait to drink that
drink.
Like it just looks
so good.
But a rhubarb slushie is probably slush.
It's probably the same thing.
Going to the stream, Dave says gin and tonic.
Great one, Dave.
Very nice, refreshing drink.
And then Dave also chimed in with a non-alcoholic iced tea.
Ice tea is great because it's also healthy.
I cannot just do
ice tea by itself.
Really?
I
need lemonade, I feel like, in it.
I don't know.
It just tastes weird to me without
lemonade.
It's just so good for you.
You drink black tea over ice.
It's delicious.
That's a great choice.
Thanks, Dave.
Chris from Janesville says, please check out Darius Pro Pitman on Facebook.
He has an incredible song for Men's Mental Health Month.
Okay.
We'll have to check that out.
Is this mental?
I guess it's probably mental health month.
Yeah Thank you very much Chris from Jamesville.
Chris also says I'm boring ice cold Miller like that's not boring Chris That's like the the all-american the all-wisconsin drink exactly
The
all-wisconsin drink for guys watching their calorie intake.
That's an excellent choice Chris.
Thank you, buddy We've got Chris Casper our pal Casper from Madison and the 608 he says ain't no laws
when you're drinking claws.
Is that a Casper original?
No, that's a thing.
It's kind of a new drink.
That's why I was thinking maybe he just came up with that.
No, that's a huge thing with white claws.
There's no loss.
But I'll say this, they just started making a non-alcoholic claw, too.
So you could
do
both.
You could two-fist a non-alcoholic and an alcoholic.
That seems to drive with your knee.
That's healthy.
Thank you, Chris.
Great to hear from you, buddy.
Ed from Madison says, non-alcoholic, Arnold Palmer, alcoholic, John Daley.
You could read that even without the question of the night, I think.
And then Anna from Madison says, hi, Pete and Conrad.
My cool summer drink is a pina colada.
Great one.
Great one.
And we get one right here.
Chris also from Jamesville.
Chris Sheridan from the 608 says, as a husband to a teacher, thank you.
We are both husbands of teachers, pal.
You're very welcome, Chris.
All right, fantastic.
We are going to come back and talk about a really cool Oshkosh comedy competition that is coming up next after Nightlight's news team keeps you informed.
It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio
Network.
This
is Night Light.
I am Pete Schwabba, your loyal host for this evening's broadcast.
Great to have you with me as we talk about the things in life that make us happy.
Right, Conrad?
I agree.
All right, well done.
So our question of the night, folks, is what is your favorite cool summer drink?
It is National Beverage Day, and it seems like, anyway, summer is here.
So let's celebrate and talk about things we want to drink this summer.
And they don't have to be alcoholic.
We've gotten a lot of suggestions about non-alcoholic drinks.
So you can share those, too.
It could be an ice cold Coca-Cola for all I care.
I just want to hear from you guys.
It's more fun when you are part of the show.
Um, all right, so let's, we've got a lot to get to tonight.
Great guests.
And I'm going to bring the first one on right now.
Uh, this gentleman, I believe it's from Oshkosh.
We had a brief conversation yesterday, but he is the founder of laughable productions and also the Oshkosh funniest comedian competition, which is coming up this weekend.
It is my pleasure to welcome Mr. Ben Giles tonight, buddy.
Hey, thanks for having me.
Hey, the pleasure is all ours.
I, I.
I'm applaud what you're doing because the world needs more laughter.
And I can tell just by looking at you on the stream, you are a happy guy and you like to laugh.
So that's great that that comes across right from the get-go.
Nice to meet you, buddy.
Nice to meet you as well.
And I completely agree.
The world needs laughter more now than ever.
And that was part of the reason why we started Laughful Productions six years ago was because we wanted to bring more laughter to the Fox Valley.
Oshkosh is funny as a comedian is doing that, so we're really, really excited.
So let's
talk about that, but let's also talk about, you said it's six years old.
What do you do?
What is laughable production?
Tell people about your business.
Yeah, so we're a comedy entertainment company.
We produce all sorts of shows, mainly murder mystery dinner theaters and comedy shows.
So we started with murder mystery dinner theater shows, and we started doing improv comedy, stand-up comedy.
We've done all sorts of stuff.
Trivia.
fun racers during COVID.
We did a virtual show over Zoom.
It was called 10 Ways to Survive Life in Quarantine and it was like a little play that a playwright had written two weeks fresh into the pandemic.
So we really just try to do things that we think people will like and that will give people the opportunity to maybe try something a little more unique and in the process laugh a little.
Absolutely.
I love it.
All right, let's do the stand-up thing.
Are you a comedian, Ben?
I think we talked about this
a
little bit.
OK.
How's that going?
I'm a
comedian.
Great.
I like improv.
I'm an improv guy.
I've been recently trying my hand at stand-up.
I've done probably three shows, mainly hosting the shows that we've been producing.
I'll do 10 to 15 minutes at the beginning.
But it's been good.
I think I'm starting to really like stand-up.
But got my start at improv comedy, for sure.
What's harder?
I don't know.
Honestly, if you would have asked me before I did stand up, I would have said improv.
But now that I've tried stand up, standing is actually pretty tough.
They're really different.
In my opinion, improv is you got to be really quick on your feet and you got to.
You really play well with your other players.
But stand up, you know, it's a really great relationship that you have to have between you and the audience, you know, and you can really be up there for a couple of minutes.
And if your jokes aren't hitting, it can be brutal.
Does it help to have people like I've done some improv years and years ago before I did stand up.
And it seems like you can lean on people if it's not going well.
Does that make it a little bit easier?
I mean, you still could get stared at.
I mean, a bad crowd is a bad crowd, but.
Absolutely.
When...
You know, one of the things that we'd always stress, you know, if it's not your show, it's not your show, let your co-stars shine.
There's no shame in that, you know, it being a supporting role in a scene or during a game, you know, because it's really about the audience's experience, right?
So don't make it about you, especially if the audience is gravitating toward your other player, you know, let them shine and tee them up, set them up for some good jokes and, you know, for some good bits and let them.
go but yeah it can be really tough if the key is really finding people that you have good chemistry with right yeah obviously you need to have that good yes and then you got to be able to play off of what the audience has given you and your suggestion in the game but also finding people that you actually have a connection with and you know I like doing improv with people that I know and that I'm friends with because that's the easiest way to make jokes and yeah
That's a great answer.
Okay, so tell us about this great event you have.
It's coming up May 10th at the Oshkosh Arena.
Tell us about this cool competition.
Yeah, so it's called Oshkosh's 20th Comedian, and we're going to have four preliminary rounds with at least 10 comedians at each round, starting in May.
First one is this Saturday, May 10th at the Oshkosh Arena, 7 o'clock.
Tickets are still available.
You can buy them at the door or online, and then...
You know, we have the next preliminary round in June, July, then August.
And the winner of each of those rounds is determined by an audience vote and a panel of judges.
So we're going to have a panel of judges there.
Audience is going to be able to vote for who they think is best as well.
And then the winner of each preliminary round is going to go to the finale in September.
And super excited about this.
So we're bringing in Josh Blue.
He won last comic standing.
Uh, in the 2000s and he was runner up on America's Got Talent in 2022.
And so he's going to headline the finale for us.
Um, and those four finalists, they're going to open for him.
Everyone that comes to the show will have a vote, you know, to see who they want to crown as Oscar's funniest, but then Josh blue is also going to be on the panel judging for the finale as well.
So.
Oshkosh Arena is really trying to bring fun things to the Oshkosh area.
You know, they're under a new group that's operating them, Venue Works, and the Venue Works team has been nothing but amazing.
I mean, they are really trying to bring unique ventures that you may not get in your typical Oshkosh, Wisconsin, and they're doing a great job at doing that.
Boy, I think that's really cool that you're doing it over three or four months because...
It almost sounds like a like an NC double labor.
Do any of the comics get buys like if they're the best comics do they get a
You know, I didn't think about that.
We do have some really good comics coming.
I'm not gonna lie to you to two of the five finalists for the Madison's Funnies comic competition are gonna be competing in Oshkosh Those are some heavy hitters and then there's some guys that have filmed specials, you know, and they're you know, so we we we could have but no
Everyone's at an equal playing field.
All 10 comedians each round are going to be, I mean, you can bring friends.
You can sack the room.
I mean, there's going to be about 50-50 between audience and judges.
It's not the only factor, but the more people you bring, the better you'll do.
And I think the funnier comedians probably have a larger following, so they probably have an advantage in that regard for sure.
OK.
My guest is Ben Giles.
He is the founder of Laughable Productions, and he is putting on a really cool competition at the Oshkosh Arena called Oshkosh's Funniest Comedian.
You mentioned some heavy hitters.
Can you mention names, Ben?
Like who you have?
I
don't want to sound biased.
I can mention some of the folks that we have this coming Saturday because they're all announced.
The one that I specifically had, you know, reference about Madison's Funnest Comic.
Her name is Brienne Wilhite.
She'll be there this Saturday.
We have a local guy.
Josh that's coming in.
His name is Alex Morris.
We got a final act guy coming in Eric weeks.
He's done a lot of shows with us in the past,
but
I don't want to.
I don't want to be too biased because we want to give everybody a fair shot.
But those are some of the names that are probably recognizable that we have coming up this Saturday.
And then in the future, as we announce, I have the slate of comedians for the next three rounds.
Everybody's confirmed.
There will be some heavy hitters.
And I'm really excited to see everyone's reaction, too, when they see who's going to be competing.
Honestly, I think it's anybody's, it's up for grabs.
It's going to be anybody's race because there are some really funny people that we got coming on.
Well, and it's, you know, anybody can, even though you call them heavy hitters and I'm sure they are, someone could have a great show that night.
You don't know, it's not a slam dunk that because crowds can be fickle and can have different reactions to different people.
So it sounds like a blast.
Tell us about the Oshkosh Arena.
What's that venue like?
I've never even heard of the, no, I've never lived in Oshkosh, but I'm not familiar with that.
Yeah, I mean, they've been a great partner to us.
We've done two murder mystery dinner theaters there and now we're kicking off, you know, Oscar's funniest comedian.
They were previously called the Menominee Nation Arena.
And there was a little bit of controversy in the press the last couple of years.
There was some issues with some loans and some bankruptcy.
And so that's why they have that new operating group coming in.
And that's why they're trying to kind of reestablish themselves in the community because
for a while it seemed like it might be going under.
But they originally it was built to kind of host the herd, which is the Milwaukee Bucks G
League.
And so the herd plays all their home games at the Oshkosh Arena.
And now the Oshkosh Arena has done a really great job of trying to bring in other things that are more than just the herd so that people have these entertainment experiences.
But you know, it's a decent size arena can host 4,000 people.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you have it for different venues?
Yeah.
So like for our event this weekend, they have like a VIP lounge that seats like 250.
And so we're probably going to be in that VIP lounge.
But if we're pushing close to 250 by Saturday, you know, we might move to that big main floor.
Wow.
But I've seen black curtains and you know, have seating in the middle kind of the bowl is what they call it.
Um, but yeah, then they have, you know, stadium seating going up and the goal is to sell that puppy out when Josh blue comes through the valley in September.
You should do it.
You should make the comics do like a layup line, you know, like have them go out and make it a real, make it a real event.
Um, three throw a layup and a three pointer if you want to advance.
Um, so.
Are there parameters, Ben, like do the comics have to be clean or can they work blue?
What are the issues there?
Yeah, no, no parameters.
Really the only thing that we've told these comedians is they have eight minutes, so they have eight minutes set and no props.
Okay.
Everything else up to them.
I mean, they can go as dark and dirty as they want and they can take the high road and do some clean comedy.
But it'll be interesting because as you probably know, every audience is different, right?
When you're walking into a room, you're trying to gauge what your jokes are going to land with this crew and what's going to differentiate you between these nine other comedians who are also thinking the same thing you are reading the audience.
And so I'm excited to see what happens.
I know we've hosted a decent amount of shows the last couple of months with Stand Up.
And we've had a wide range of people that have gone really dark, really dirty.
I mean, some people in the audience, you see a little cringe from time to time, but most of our comedians are great at kind of reading the room and knowing what their audience likes and trying to appease everyone.
So they can be dirty or clean, but if Kara Top shows up with his trunk, you're going to send him packing.
Exactly.
That's exactly right.
Let's do you work clean as a comic?
I mean, I know you've only been up a few times, but do you tend to stay clean or you sort of?
No, no, I've
I've gone.
I've gone a little I've gone low.
I mean, I I told myself when I started doing stand up, you know, because I have a day job and, you know, my in the laughable production is kind of like a side gig thing.
And, you know, we do all this entertainment stuff.
But, you know, I've
I've been elected to public office before, you know, I kind of have this persona.
So I told myself when I started stand up that I wasn't necessarily going to go dirty or low, but I found myself on stage the last two times telling some pretty on the line risque content.
So I love it.
Ben
Jaus is here.
We're going to do a very quick break.
We'll come back and have a couple more minutes with him.
This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
This is Nightlight.
I am Pete Schwabba.
Our question of the night is, what is your favorite cool summer drink?
My guest right now is Ben Giles.
He is the founder of Laughable Productions and has a really cool comedy contest happening in Oshkosh.
The first round happens May 10th.
That's Saturday, I believe, right, Ben?
Mm-hmm.
Okay, so at the Oshkosh Arena, there's still seats available, I understand?
Yes.
Okay.
Well, how can people get tickets, Ben?
You can go to Oshkosh Arena.com.
Okay.
And you can buy online through Ticketmaster.
If you want to save money on those Ticketmaster fees, you can buy at the Oshkosh Arena box office in person, or you can buy at the door the night of the show.
Very cool.
So this is, that's exciting.
So do you have, who are some of your favorite Wisconsin comedians, aside from ones we've just named Ben?
Do you have favorites here in the
state?
I mean, I love listening to Charlie Barron's.
I think he is he's so funny because he really kind of localized comedy for a lot of people.
You
know, with the man to talk minute, it was, you know, we've seen that kind of news desk format happen before in the past, but to have it be so hyper localized and have it really go viral among the Midwest.
And then, you know, I've had the chance to see him in person a couple of times do stand up.
And, you know, I think he does a really good job of
playing
into the culture.
And so he's one of the guys that I really like.
One of my friends in college is named Jeffrey Asmus.
He got his start in Madison.
He won Madison's Funniest Comic when we were in college in 2015.
And he's been touring all over the country now.
He's super funny.
Um, and he's found some viral success online too, which I think is awesome.
You know, he's, he's got millions of followers between his Instagram and his Tik Tok.
And so it's really
cool
to see someone, you know, that used to do comedy with, you know, it used to go to all these comedy college parties at UW and then all of a sudden he's, you know, sound out comedy clubs across the country.
But yeah, those are probably two that I like to watch the most.
And I'm hoping that maybe we'll find the next big Wisconsin star through our competition here.
Wouldn't that be something?
What about outside of Wisconsin on a more national level?
Is there someone that if you're spinning the dial at night and a comedian's on, you have to sit there and watch him?
Yeah, I like, I really like Burke Kreischer, Tom Spira.
I also like their podcast.
Theo Vaughn, I know he can be a little, some people don't really like Theo.
They think he's a little distasteful at the time, but I think he is so funny.
And he also, he just got to interview Trump, which I think is wild, you know, like mainstream politicians are like now going on podcasts with comedians.
Right.
It's a wild time to be alive.
So those are a couple that I really like.
Some, you know, iconic folks from back in the day.
Chris Rock, I think is super funny.
Very
funny.
Eddie Murphy, you know, some two classics from way back when.
And then one guy that I have kind of
I wasn't really old enough to like him in the moment, but I've really, really loved his Chris Farley.
I mean, if I could just be Chris Farley, man, I would.
That would be a dream for me.
I love watching Chris Farley sketch comedy in his movies.
I think he's just the funniest guy.
Hilarious.
So before we let you go, Ben, tell us about these dinner theater shows you do and where can people find out more information?
Do you do the ones up here in Green Bay or is that a separate outfit?
No, that's a, it's a separate company.
I used to be a detective in those in the Madison area, same company.
And that's kind of what spurred me to start this in final act in 2019.
Um, but yeah, so murder mystery dinner theaters are super fun.
You can find all the info at laughful productions.com or our Facebook or Instagram.
Um, there, one thing that I think we do really well that a lot of other dinner theaters don't do is we have some really cool themed nights.
We just finished a Kentucky Derby themed murder mystery.
And we're doing an 80s prompting murder mystery Friday, May 16th in Oshkosh.
And so all those details are at our website, laughfulproductions.com.
You can buy tickets there.
You get, you know, dinner, entertainment.
Sometimes you get a drink ticket with your ticket as well.
And it's a really
Fun night and it's different.
You know,
it's not your
typical go hang out at the bars.
You can still throw back a couple beers.
If you, you know, you like your old fashions, you know, we'll have a bar for you.
We're funnier when you're drunk, but you can have some really, really great entertainment from a local comedy group.
I am so curious about those because I've been reading about them for years.
So one of these days I'll have to mosey over and check out.
I'll send
you a ticket, Pete.
You pick which
one
works in your schedule and I'll get you a ticket.
Check her out.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Yeah.
Well, listen, buddy, I think it's great.
I love that you're doing this.
I wish you luck.
Break a leg and keep us posted as things progress.
We can have you on before the rounds or whatever and try to get some butts in the seats for you because people need to laugh, like we said.
And I think this sounds like a really cool event.
So break a leg, bud.
I appreciate that, Pete.
And I appreciate you.
Thank you so much for bringing me on.
This was really fun.
Anytime, my pleasure.
All right, that's Ben Giles.
Check out OshkoshArena.com.
I believe is where you can get the tickets or Ticketmaster.
But you can avoid the fees by going to OshkoshArena.com, which is great too.
But check out Laughable Productions and Oshkosh's funniest comedian competition.
I absolutely love that.
Conrad, you should enter that.
I don't think, I don't have a set, you know.
Come on, you got time?
I mean, I could just go out there and just see what happens.
See what happens.
Our question of the night is what is your favorite cool summer drink?
And we've got some really great answers so far.
Annie from Watertown says twice.
Oh, this is in regard to Cindy's shingles.
Annie says twice had shingles age 58 and 63.
Finally got the two dose Vax reaction to the second, but really nothing compared to getting shingles.
Yeah, okay.
I think anything I was kind of being whiny, because I was saying the vaccine kind of gives you shingles for like a few hours.
I literally, my lower back was killing, I was shaking.
So if shingles, obviously shingles is actually worse than that.
So I didn't mean to...
to downplay shingles.
I've heard it's horrible.
And she said that in all caps.
Nothing compared to getting shingles 18 million exclamation points.
And first time felt ill after a vaccine.
Yeah, there you go.
And he says, oh, Cuba Libre.
That's a drink.
Warm or cool summer drink.
I like that.
Sounds good.
Sounds beautiful.
Ross from Crawford County says, April, April spritz, one third April and two thirds sparkling wine.
All right.
Thank you, Ross.
Awesome.
Keep those texts coming, folks.
We will be right back to find out more about the incentives that are up for discussion on the house tomorrow.
We'll do that with Co-O'Neill.
It's coming up next at Sightlight with Pete
Schwabba.
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now, a guy whose house has an actual wiggle room, Pete Schwabba.
Welcome back to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.
We are about to start act two after a lovely intermission.
Thanks for sticking with us Our question of the night is what is your favorite cool summer drink?
It is national beverage day And finally the weather appears to be heading in the right direction and I think you're right Conrad we need to get Brittany Merleau on the show She is a big-time award winner.
Yeah
swept the WBAs and That is exciting and Brittany works really hard
at Meteorology and she's like a doctor of meteorology.
I think so.
Dr. Merleau.
So enjoy the nice weather and tell us what your favorite cool summer drink is, folks.
Alcoholic, non-alcoholic, whatever your beverage is of choice, let us know.
Cliff Wall will be here in a little while.
We're going to talk about Wisconsin State Parks.
He is on the board of the Friends of the Wisconsin State Parks.
So we'll talk to Cliff about all the fun things you can do this summer, trails, parks.
It's gonna be a lot of fun.
Cliff's been on the show before and he is a swell guy.
That's coming up in a little bit.
Right now, we just learned, I just learned actually a day or two ago, that an incentives bill will be debated tomorrow, having a hearing tomorrow.
I think on the State Senate, we'll get all the details from our next guest, but it's Assembly Bill 231, a film incentive bill, and they're going to give it some attention tomorrow, so we'll see what happens.
And here to help us kind of decipher this and figure out where things are at is a gentleman named Ko O'Neill.
He has spent the last 20 years teaching art and design and video production and screenwriting at UW-Stout, and...
Not only that, he used to work for Lucasfilm Ltd.
That's kind of cool.
We'll talk to him a little bit about that as well.
And it is my pleasure right now to welcome Co.
Tonightlite.
Hey, buddy.
Hello, how are you?
I'm doing very well.
How are you doing tonight?
I'm doing pretty well.
Thanks for the nice intro.
Did I get it right?
Did I miss something?
No, you did.
No, you got it right.
OK.
I've been teaching for the last 20 years or so.
Not always, it's a doubt.
I just started this out in 2020 before that I was Portland State University in Portland, Oregon.
OK.
And yeah, before that, I was in the movie business.
Very nice.
Well, we'll get to all of that, I hope.
But right now, this is a big deal tomorrow.
What do you expect to happen?
So it's Assembly Bill 231, the film incentive bill.
What are you hoping happens tomorrow and what will we know?
First of all, tell us a little bit about Co if you would what if the bill does pass?
What does that mean?
So what it means is that the tax incentives Could draw film production tell television production actually any kind of media production including advertising to the state of Wisconsin and You know a lot of other states have it.
I think we're one of only
Three or four states that doesn't have a state film board one only on the only 13 states that doesn't have any kind of incentives And so what will happen is it draws?
It allows any production company that is going to spend a certain amount of money on a production to do it here They spend the money here and then they get the rebate based on the money that they've spent so For example, if you came here to shoot a TV series
and you spent $20 million on that TV series, you could get up to 30% back on that because all of your payroll, all of your rentals, all that stuff that you would normally be paying taxes on goes right to the state of Wisconsin.
And then the state of Wisconsin refund 30% of that.
Six million
bucks.
Yeah, and that's significant, and that makes a big difference.
I mean, when you're choosing where to shoot your film, I shot a film in Wisconsin 20 years ago, and there were no incentives.
And then
I think
they were here briefly, and then they didn't last long, and now there's a new attempt.
What is the difference, Ko, between getting an incentive, and it also says a 30% tax credit?
I know that's what you're referring to, but is there a difference?
I mean, would filmmakers rather have the cash back, right?
Well, that's right.
And that's what the incentive is, is that you do get a tax rebate.
And so it's not a grant.
And I think that's one of the points of confusion is that a lot of people think, oh, the state's just handing out money to people from out of state making shows here.
And that's not the case.
The case is you only get the money back once you've spent a certain amount of your budget here in the state over the course of a year, for example.
So some great examples are New Mexico, where they shot Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad, like those shows.
Weren't written to take place in Albuquerque.
They took place in Albuquerque because of Mexico at a 45% tax incentive at the time and Georgia is similar with the things like The Walking Dead or any of the Marvel movies, you know that were shot all in the Atlanta area It's because of the incentive and and you know, Georgia has been doing that for years, which is why they draw so much production.
I know that You know, Minnesota has you can take advantage of two incentives if you shoot in northern Minnesota in the iron range How
Let's say Wisconsin passes this and you get a 30% rebate.
Will that, do they still have to maybe push for even more to be competitive with some of these other states?
Not really because Wisconsin does offer a lot of regional advantages.
I mean, even look at topography.
So the way we have hills and valleys and streams and lakes and all that kind of stuff that you see in other states just not to the.
the look that we have here.
So think about a place like Door County, like you're not going to find a region like that in Minnesota.
It's nice as Minnesota is.
And
I think one of the reasons Minnesota does have it regional is because Minneapolis is such a center of advertising activity that could eat up a ton of incentive.
And so then, you know, if feature films or even car ads want to go to the Duluth area, they have to have a separate incentive.
Otherwise, Minneapolis would just absorb it and it would be gone for the whole state.
Whereas Wisconsin, I think is much more balanced and you won't see people just gravitating to Madison.
They'll be going to places like, you know, Superior, like I said, Door County or even Green Bay because of just how different all of those regions look.
Yeah, absolutely.
So.
What is your gut telling?
What do you think will happen tomorrow?
And what's the best case scenario for a group like Action Wisconsin to come out of the hearing tomorrow?
Well, unfortunately, it's not like a pageant, you know, they don't just hold up the numbers and say, good job, you win, you know, you have to actually kind of, you know, it would be nice if we could just get 10s and move on.
But it's a long process.
But the good news is that it is a very bipartisan.
Bill and it was actually drafted by Republicans and obviously a lot of the arts kind of go to the liberal side.
So both sides are really vying for it because of the economic factors, you know, and advantages it has towards the state.
In other states, I was on the state film board in Oregon for many years back in the early 2000s.
And that was a very balanced thing.
And the original concern was that all the work is going to go right to the cities, but it turned out not to be the case.
Like people were actually looking for
kind of rural communities or smaller communities that have a charm to them, you just can't fake.
And so in terms of what's happening tomorrow, you're probably aware that we've already done some testimony where we went to some of the events like in Hayward or West Alice or.
Wasau and spoke there and said here's our case.
We had like three minutes, right?
So
tomorrow will be a dedicated hearing just to this bill and there is no time limit.
So it's not really a Cory Booker style filibuster, but it is the sort of thing where you can take 10 minutes and really make your case a bunch of people can speak.
So they'll just listen to us for a couple hours.
It'll be the whole, you know, committee will be there.
And so it's really important to kind of be down there and be able to
answer questions.
And I think that's probably the biggest difference.
But yeah, then they'll have to go and vote on it before the full legislature won't be.
They, you know, the committee makes recommendations to the full government.
They don't just decide right there and sign it off.
So when will that happen?
Like, let's say tomorrow goes well, when would the vote take place?
I wish I knew more about Wisconsin politics.
But, you know, at the state level anyway, I don't know if they have
like votes you know quarterly or daily or you know how they how it goes and also some stuff can get tabled right they might say I will push this to the next session or whatever so my hope is that it would happen in the next month or so because then you
could
still get your state film board set up and that takes some organizing
Um, because there are two components to this bill.
It's, it's not only the incentive, but also having, you know, eventually establishing a state film board, which can be just one or two people.
It doesn't have to be, you know, a dozen folks, but the idea is you're starting to get local liaisons.
You know, Minnesota has those where in smaller communities like Brainerd or even Rosa, they have a liaison you call to get location pictures or to walk people around if they're interested in, in certain areas.
So getting that set up will take some time, but, um, it'd be great if we could.
be rolling by the end of the year.
But honestly, I don't know.
That's my speculation.
That's the voice of Co O'Neill.
He is a professor at UW-Stout and has worked in the movie business for much of his adult life.
He is taking a few minutes with us tonight to talk about this Bill 231 that will be up or is getting a hearing tomorrow in Madison.
Will you be there, Co?
I will not.
I'm actually just finishing up my semester here at Stout.
The Action of Wisconsin is sending down, I think at least 12 people to be there to answer questions and give different perspectives from all over the state.
So it's not just, you know, Milwaukee, it's also places like Race Lake and Superior and Hayward and people coming from all over to go testify.
It's just great advertising for the state, you know, and I really hope you guys are successful.
What do you think the public stands on this bill?
Because you mentioned there's bipartisan support.
And I remember meeting with someone in Madison about 10 years ago when I first moved back here that he wanted to, and he was dating a Republican representative.
And they were very passionate about getting the bill passed.
So that should tell you, with the bipartisan support, is it easier to get the public support?
Where do you think the public stands on this right now?
You know, it's a good question because in other states that I've operated in, in the film business, you sometimes have some kind of maybe sort of big city feelings where you think that all the monies in the big cities and all these big cities are making decisions for smaller communities.
And, but also on the other side, you have a lot of people becoming more aware of kind of sort of
More rural based productions like you think about the walking dead I use that example a lot because of how long that show has run and how many people have seen it so something familiar But that didn't take place in Atlanta, you know, the most lot of it was shot out in the in the sticks, frankly Yeah, and so But I think the challenge of the public is saying well wait now.
We're spending ten million dollars a year on on movie production It's like no, it's it's that's a cap on the credit so
It is going to be an important message to put out that people don't get money by shooting here.
They only get the money based, you know, percentage of what they've spent is an incentive to shoot here.
I think to like, like at least my personal opinion is I think you have to build a culture in this day to and start.
young with kids theater and the arts and music and dance and acting and all that kind of stuff.
Because I've seen it happen in some states where, oh, we need money for interest infrastructure.
Oh, kill the instant spill.
That's not how it works.
This should be part of our culture in the fabric.
But I think the goal, if it does pass, will be keeping the public interested in it, right?
And keeping it going year
after year.
That's right.
And also explaining that it's not like a portion of the budget of the state budget that's sitting there waiting to be spent.
It only goes out when money has come in.
So, you know,
it's
what we like to say kind of revenue neutral, you know, where you're not spending money just to spend money, you're actually waiting till you get a revenue in from these productions.
And then you return a certain amount of it because all of the money that they've spent has gone into these communities.
And I think a lot of people don't think about
what, you know, what goes into making a movie, which you know, having made one and having worked on them.
It's not just about let's rent a camera and go trample all the cornfields with our trucks.
It's
more
about
you know, even one of the representatives I was talking to, um, had made a movie in the Chippewa Falls area and had said, we rented portable air conditioners because the location that we were in was so hot and we had rent everyone in the whole area.
And this is, you know, somewhere north of Chippewa Falls.
And so
it's,
you think about that or you think about, you know, even like cherry picker lifts where we hang lights from, like they rent that locally.
They don't drive them in from Chicago or Los Angeles or places like that.
That stuff is right in the town.
You're shooting it.
Right.
Um,
And their incentive to do that is because that's how they can claim the incentives, too.
If they spend money out of state, it doesn't help them.
I
was going to say, I
mean, it's
that quick, too.
It's a huge infusion just in terms of personnel, too.
So all those people have to stay in hotels.
They'll eat at restaurants.
They'll get a catering.
And I think it was Rob Lowe, the actor, just recently said he was on a TV series where it was cheaper to fly 200 people to Ireland.
and make a movie than it was to shoot it in LA.
All right.
Hey, hold on one second.
OK, Cole, we're going to do a really fast break.
And then let's pick up there.
We're going to get cut off here.
Cole O'Neill is here.
We're coming right back.
It's Nightlight with Peach Waba.
Great to have you with me on this gorgeous Tuesday night here in the state of Wisconsin.
This is Nightlight with Peach Waba.
Our question of the night is what is your favorite cool summer drink?
It's National Beverage Day and it looks like summer is well...
about to be here.
So Cliff Wall is coming up in a few minutes to talk about the Wisconsin State Parks, something we have here that is an absolute treasure and we'll talk about some of the things we can do this summer and what he does there for Friends of the Park.
Right now, we have a few more minutes with our current guest, co-oneal, who is a professor at UW-Stout and has worked in the movie business.
He is involved with Action Wisconsin and trying to get film incentives passed here in Wisconsin.
Assembly Bill 231, we'll get a hearing tomorrow.
in front of, is it the Ways and Means Committee, Ko?
That's correct.
Okay.
So before we move on, I want to ask you about what you did at Lucasfilm, because I find that fascinating too.
But how can people, if they support this cause, what can they do?
Well, what they can do is let their representatives know that this is something they're interested in.
And then once the, you know, if the bill is passed and once things take shape, just to
let people know that you're there and that the community is accepting and then supporting the film board and by sending in something as simple as photos of interesting things in your area because it's expensive and time consuming for an actual location scout to go out to every single town in the state.
Great point.
All right, so I would love to hear what you did.
I know you worked for George Lucas, I believe.
Our friend Nathan Deming told me that you worked for Lucas Film.
What did you do there?
That's right.
I was at, uh, I started at Skywalker sound, which back in the day, this is pre Marvel before Disney bought the whole empire as it were.
Um, and, uh, um, so I was hired as part of a big hire for episode one, you know, at the time there had not been a Star Wars movie in something like 30 years, 20 years.
And so.
Episode one was being released in May of 1999.
And I started there.
And my original job was as a digital audio technician, which basically meant I restarted computers that crashed and helped support when sound editors or sound designers and mixers were finishing a movie, just making sure everything works smoothly.
And then I transitioned into assistant sound editing, which involves cutting sounds.
And so I was on, you know, technically when you're there and you're
you know, working on all these movies.
You could say I worked on over 50 films because over 50 films went through there in the time that I was there.
Geez,
that's amazing.
But it's not like I'm, you know, was on editing on every single movie.
Just admit it, you're the next Luke Skywalker.
It's fine.
It was pretty funny that my first day at work, some guy showed up the security kiosk dressed as Boba Fett and said he has scripting with George Deread.
So
there was a lot
of zaniness that happened there in those days.
Was that up in Central California or was
that in
LA?
No, that was San Rafael, California.
So it's a little town called Necasio.
And George has a bunch of property out there.
And that's where Scabrica Ranch is.
He's done well for himself.
Yeah, not bad.
Having done sound editing, it's funny.
I just watched the conversation about a week and a half ago, which I hadn't seen in years.
Yeah.
Opala movie.
It's hugely underrated.
It's genius.
It's great.
And I never real, I mean, to me anyway, at least what comes to mind is that's the first film I think I saw where sound was so important or maybe blow out with Travolta back in the day.
But I love the way they use sound and you realize how important it is to that plot, but also just to movies in general.
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, it was a sound had kind of been around, but it hadn't really come through as a narrative.
Sort of element, you know, and ironically one of the first movies to really use sound as narrative element was the Citizen Kane could because Of how they just used things like reverb and giant spaces and that kind of thing and that didn't really happen before that But there was a long time where you know We had so many musicals in the studio pictures in the 50s and that was just about everybody lip-syncing pre-recorded stuff and dancing to it and so when the French films came through in the 70s late 60s and then Coppola in the early 70s
pretty amazing stuff.
That's great stuff.
Hey, before we let you go, and I really truly thank you for your time tonight.
This has been fun getting to know you.
I hope we can get you back sometime.
But do you have a cool summer drink that you are in favor of or a big fan of?
Man, I'm a sucker for the Arnold Palmer.
You know, just lemonade and iced tea.
It's like, can't go wrong.
Arnold Palmer's running away with it tonight.
That's fantastic.
Ko, great meeting you.
Thank you so much for your time, and good luck tomorrow, and good luck with your efforts.
I hope you guys are successful.
Let me know if I can help in any way.
Yeah, thanks for your support.
You got it.
All right.
That's Co.
O'Neill.
He is a professor at UW.
He stopped trying hard to get Assembly Bill 231 pushed through so we can have film incentives here in Wisconsin, which I think to me is a no-brainer.
I mean, especially when you have bipartisan support and a lot of really dedicated and passionate people working to get this done.
It could be a great thing for our state.
So like he said, if you're in favor of that, you think it could be good for the state as well.
Please contact your representatives and let them know.
Our question of the night, as I mentioned, is what is your favorite cool summer drink?
Summer appears to be here.
It is National Beverage Day.
Yes, we have a National Beverage Day.
And Steady Eddie says, checks in from the 608 and he says, Pete, my favorite in the backyard summertime drink is one cold bottle of spotted cow.
But if Cardinal Pizzabala is selected as the next Pope, I will drink two.
Slow down, steady Eddie.
It's not even officially summer yet.
But have another spot at CowBuddy.
You've earned it.
Just from your texts alone and what you bring to Nightlight.
I hope you have two beers because I think you've earned it.
Bridget from the 818 says, fresh, squeezed, icy cold lemonade.
Love it as a kid and love it as an adult.
That is a great choice.
Thank you, Bridget.
And second vote for lemonade tonight too.
It's like the All-American drink, right?
I think it just tastes really good.
Lemonade?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it goes really well with iced tea.
Like lemonade mixed together with a lot of stuff tastes good.
Have you ever had Sprite and lemonade together?
I think I have.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
That is a really good drink.
We can seriously do like just a what's your favorite lemonade because there's so many great lemonades
to it.
Country time used to make one, but fresh squeezed is great, you know.
Yeah, AJ in the 608 says, good day, Pete and Conrad.
If I have to say, my favorite summer drink is iced tea.
I love to add lime and lemon.
Interesting.
Lemon and lime, I like it, AJ.
And if you're feeling loosey-goosey, a bit of booze.
Lucy Goosey's a good thing.
Thank you, AJ.
Keep those texts coming.
When we come back, we're going to have some State Park talk with our pal Cliff Wall.
He is a board member of Friends of the State Parks.
Stick around for this and find out what parks you should visit this summer because we have beautiful ones here in Wisconsin.
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Right now, I'm very excited to welcome my next guest.
I met this gentleman about a month ago when he was here.
And we were talking about an entirely different topic.
We'll touch on that too.
But he is a member of the Friends of the Park Board.
Friends of the Park in the state of Wisconsin.
Friends of Wisconsin State Parks.
I'm glad you clarified that, Cliff, but don't get mouthy.
Cliff Wall is here.
Welcome back, buddy.
Hey, I'm glad to be here and trade some barbs and, you know, take a few pokes at... You used to sell cars.
And I've only known you.
This is the second time I've been around you.
And you seem like just like...
the nicest guy.
Did you sell a ton of cars?
How rich are you?
How much do you make a year, Cliff?
That's really why I wanted you.
I'm out of social security now.
I'm out of fixed income.
Can we leave it at that?
Sure.
Okay.
I'm not asking for a loan.
I'm just like, you're a nice guy.
You must have done very well.
So it's great to have you back here, buddy.
And when you were here, you were here with Sam Vanessa.
And
you guys were trying to get Jack into the NFL Hall of Fame, a campaign to get him in.
He hired
was part of the hiring team that brought Vince Lombardi here.
Pretty good resume.
And you were going to set up a booth at the draft or a station or something.
How did that go?
Well, here's what we did.
I think we, uh, we got petitions and we put them around, around the city.
Okay.
Can I, can I name names?
Yeah.
Okay.
So we have, we had some at Margaritas.
We had some, of course, at the Redwood Inn.
Um, my buddy Mike Bloomer at St.
Michael's.
Um,
Let's see a Bravo restaurant You mean fliers like just to know what we actually put Yes placards with so people coming inside Union Hotel, of course because that's kind of famous in Packer history.
Okay bosses news Depot another icon.
Yeah, let's see and then the blue collar along Broadway Crop seas and
Lenny's pub.
Nice.
And there's some more around that I don't remember.
And then we did set up or Sam did set up a tent on the corner of Oneida.
Oh, sorry.
Lombardi and Ridge Road.
And he actually had Jack's daughter, Valerie there.
And she got a ton of signatures.
I mean, just a ton.
So we've got we've got public support.
Now we have to get the sports writers.
involved and I did talk to Pete Doherty and he said, well, find out who's on the committee for the seniors, the, you know, there's three groups, I guess seniors, owners and contributors.
Okay.
And he'd be a he'd be a contributor, obviously.
Yeah.
So, so we're, we've got to do that and get get a little, oh, I would say just a maybe an eight by 10 sheet of high points of why this why
Jack should be in the media.
I should be voted to the NFL Hall of Fame, the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
He's already in the Packer Hall of Fame.
Yeah, which is
pretty cool on its own.
But I mean,
that would be something
if you guys could help get them in.
And if I remember correctly, you're mostly talking about the Bears because you're from Chicago and so is so is Sam.
So I was trying to interject.
Hey, let's let's talk about I know you kept trying to reel us back.
And all I
wanted to do is ask him questions about what it's like growing up.
with two brothers, one who became a rock star executive here in Green Bay and another one who was executive for the Bears that helped build the 85
Bears.
That's incredible.
And he was a veterinarian.
He wanted nothing to do with that.
Right.
That's correct.
Interesting guy to listen to and to talk to.
I really enjoy.
hearing his story.
He was
fun to have on.
I hope you guys are successful.
But you do a lot of work with Friends of the Park in Green Bay, but you're part of Friends of the Wisconsin
State Parks.
Okay, okay, FWSP.org.
I got to put the Yeah, FWSP.org.
That's friends of Wisconsin State Parks.
Okay, Oregon.
That's our, our website.
And you know,
Obviously, we have just like you.
We have a Facebook page.
So like us.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So
tell us what what your group does.
What are you guys?
What are your passions?
What are you trying to do on behalf of the state parks?
Well, here's kind of officially.
Okay.
We are the umbrella group for friends groups of individual state parks.
So our real mission is preserve
promote, protect and enhance state parks and trails.
We should include trails on there.
Absolutely.
And we've kind of we've kind of gone down to two things, which is advocate and educate.
Now, just just so I don't get in trouble, we do not lobby.
Okay, we're not a lobbyist organization.
We are 501 C three.
Okay, so we basically it's promote parks and you know, this is what it says.
Yeah, of course, you know,
In 2024, there were 20 million visits at the state parks.
Wow.
And that's just parks.
And then there's also trails.
You know, we have a trail right out the door here, basically the Fox River Trail.
And that actually starts on Port Lear Street and heads south from Port Lear Street and Green Bay, just so there's no confusion on that.
So
how many of those 20 million people?
Our from Wisconsin, like I'm sure we get a lot of visitors from probably from Illinois, Iowa, maybe Minnesota, but how many of those do people in the state utilize the parks like you hope they would?
Yeah, yes, they
do.
No, I I should know that you got me.
You shot you shot you shot me and I don't know.
I was trying for that cliff.
That's next
time a pie graph would it kill you to bring in a nice pie
graph and we can.
That's always pie graphs always great on the radio.
Exactly.
I thought he's doing well.
I wore my hair to chill.
volunteer.
I like that.
Yeah, I like that.
Volunteer in the back.
I got it.
Yeah.
And of course, I think that's what we we try to do.
Friends of Wisconsin State Parks, we have 10 person board right now.
And hint hint hint, we could use some more members.
Conrad.
Yep.
We could use another board member or two.
Maybe go a little younger.
Get the kid.
All right.
Krieger on there.
Absolutely.
I mean, that's here's the here's what I see is kind of an issue.
is if Pete, if you look at me, the board looks a lot like me or a female version of me.
So you're the young guy in the board.
They call you kid.
Yeah, kind of.
I'm
actually older than you, Cliff.
So I don't know if I'm the answer either, but I
don't think you
are.
Well, this is great.
So when did this start?
Like, you know, everybody has like a side hustle, a pet project, a hobby.
What is this for you?
Is this a hobby?
And how did you get into this?
Like, when did you realize you wanted to do something?
You're just passionate about parks your whole life?
Or did it
develop at some point?
I can, I can start way back.
My uncle and my father, my uncle bought some property at Whitefish Dunes, which is now a state park.
But it was between Whitefish Dunes or the beach and Cave Point.
He had property there in 1940s.
Where is that?
Where's what?
Whitefish
Dunes.
Whitefish Dunes is north of Sturgeon Bay on the lakeside.
Okay.
Oh, nice.
Kind of between Jacksonport and Sturgeon Bay.
So let's say about 10 miles out of, okay, 10 miles out of Sturgeon Bay on the Lake Michigan side.
Gotcha.
Sorry, they built a place there.
So I was going to that area before I was born.
kind of my you know when you talk about prenatal you're going back wow yeah so I um it is now part actually it's part of part of whitefish dunes state park in fact you can still see the foundation the concrete foundation there's still some remnants there and if you're walking from the dunes park towards cave point the kind of along the uh the waterfront
You'll see two huge hemlectries.
That's what I remember as a kid.
And they are still there.
Oh, wow.
Down.
You know, a key point.
If you haven't been there, it's it's pretty
spectacular.
We go to Door County a lot, too.
But we mostly are on the bay
side.
But you're kind of you sound like Pottawatomie Peninsula.
You know, mostly
Sister
Bay Harbor.
But we've been to
Jackson Port and
we've
gone to eat in Bailey's Harbor.
But
Yeah, the old door counties is beautiful to begin with.
But what are some of your favorite state parks?
Like, where would you tell someone to go?
Oh,
boy.
Let's see, pick three, you know, three.
Okay, you know, I, I we were just at my wife and I were just at Pottawatomie because they opened up the tower about a week and a half ago.
Is that the one in Fish Creek?
Nope.
That's that's peninsula.
Oh, it's one in Sturgeon Bay is Pottawatomie.
Okay, gotcha.
We walked up the tower 100 steps up the tower.
Nice.
And beautiful view of of Sawyer Harbor and the islands out there and the Bay coming into Sturgeon Bay.
Yeah, beautiful up on that thing.
And of course, I do like Rock Island way up because that's rugged camping.
That's true camping.
Is that still in the county?
That's that's on the Chipador County just off of it's just past Washington Island on that little chain that kind of heads across.
Wow.
And that that's
That's that's that's a park worth going to because that was started by a Chicago you're gonna love this it was started by a guy in Chicago who invented the big Transformers and he he has a he was a Norwegian so he has a replica of a Norwegian long house there and it's a boat house really interesting and he he was Trying to grow rutabagies and different things and kind of make it I don't say communal but kind of a communal
Yeah, area.
And of course, then employees from the company could go up, you know, they take a boat from Chicago and go up there.
It's worth it's worth visiting.
And of course, there's a lighthouse.
You can actually be a docent at the lighthouse for a week.
And you really have to be at the lighthouse for like from 10 to three or something to show people the lighthouse and take them up and see a replica of the Fresno lens and be a cool side gig.
Yeah, absolutely.
To get there, though, you have to go from the Washington Island.
ferry across and then go across Washing Island to catch the car for you, the Rock Island ferry.
Now that the water is low, you can probably almost walk.
No way.
Really?
You might have to jump or swim for about 10 feet or so.
I could handle that.
I'm an athlete.
Cliff Wall is here, folks.
He used to sell cars in abundance, and now he's working on behalf of the Wisconsin State Parks.
He's been on the show before, and we're talking state parks, so... I didn't answer the question.
You asked
me a
question.
Well, you told me to.
I wasn't going to let you off the hook, though.
You got to give me one Nondor County park
now.
Okay, let's do
that.
I had never been to Lapham Creek, and we had a meeting there, and that's just past Waukesha, and that's a really nice park.
They have a...
It's worth seeing people donated a couple donated land and their and their house.
So the house is like I would call it kind of kind of Frank Lloyd right ish.
Oh, nice.
A lot of glass overlooking the Lapham Peak area.
And that's, you know, the Ice Age trail goes there.
Oh, yeah, that's the
old
that sounds
awesome.
Yeah, that that's cool.
Another one.
Another one is Willow.
Willow River Park, that's over by Hudson.
Okay.
No, the other thing, now I've not been there, but the oldest park in Wisconsin is Interstate Park in St.
Cory Falls.
And that's way west, right?
Way west.
Yep.
And then across that, there's the Minnesota Interstate Park.
So that's how they, okay, one side of the course, the west side of the river is Minnesota, Minnesota, state and east side is Wisconsin.
And that's,
that's the oldest park.
Is the Chequamagun forest part of the Wisconsin State Parks, or is that a different?
That's technically a national
forest.
Oh,
national forest.
Okay.
National forest.
Yeah, okay.
Cliff Wall is here.
We're going to do a very short break, and we will come back, and I don't know.
I'll try to keep you on your toes, Cliff.
I'll ask you something cool.
We're coming right back.
This is Night Light with Pete Chihuahua on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Welcome back.
This
is Nightlight with Pete Schwab.
Great to have you with me here.
We are barreling through a Tuesday night show here with our guest, current guest Cliff Wall.
Tomorrow night, folks, we have all kinds of fun planned.
The lights just went out again, Conrad.
What is the deal?
I'm not sure.
What are you doing over there?
Not making any movement over there.
Is that what we got?
Well, we're waving our arms
around.
What are we
supposed to do?
Do a tap dance or something?
Tomorrow night on the show, folks, it's everyone's a critic show.
Piot Levy is here from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
He writes about music.
And then our pal Rob Thomas joins us to talk movies and TV at 720.
So tune in for that.
We have a few minutes more here with Cliff Wall, who is a board member of Friends of the Wisconsin State Parks.
We've got about five minutes left, Cliff.
What do you want to hit on?
How can people get involved?
Okay,
let's talk about why I really am here.
I thought I knew, but if you're pulling a fast one here, by all means.
So really, we talked about we're advocate and educate, but we're tasked this year because it's 125 years of Wisconsin State Parks.
And look at this, I brought Peter present.
It was either the famous Swedish
dish towel or a kayak and I couldn't get the kayak in the door so I brought him the dish towel.
Thanks for nothing.
Yeah.
This is great.
It's kind of cool.
You know, you can probably sell it in an eBay.
If done, probably 50 cents you might get.
And I'll donate it to the parks.
Everybody wins.
So we are trying to raise $125,000 as an organization, Friends of Wisconsin State Parks.
And it's a little harder than you think because donors also like to give to the parks in their area.
Right.
But I look at it this way.
Let's say there's 20 million visits to state parks and trails every year, which is incredible.
Yeah.
If each one of those visits, people that visited gave a dollar, yeah, we'd raise $20 million.
And do you have that?
Do you have like a little bucket or something where you kind of encouraged?
We're trying to we're trying to get there.
And of course, so 125,000, I can kind of break it down.
Yeah.
So because because I'm on that committee of trying to raise money.
Yeah.
So
I say, well, we can get 10 corporate donors at $12,500 each.
Okay.
We can get $1,125 donors, or we can get a small, small portion of the state of Wisconsin, 125,000 people each donated a dollar.
Yeah.
And we're there.
And we're there, you know, I like to break the numbers down to smaller.
chewable amounts.
Yeah.
And it doesn't seem so overwhelming, right?
Now, then people say, so what do you do with that money?
Well, as a group, we take any money received, and we give out matching grants to the friends group around the state.
And we, you know, we, we start out, let's start with, we have matching grants.
So sometimes it's something as simple as a picnic table, a fire ring, signage for the parks.
Okay.
Then it, you know, goes up the ladder, we've, we try to
We'd like to have a naturalist in the state parks during the summer to have a naturalist program.
So we'd pay we, you know, contribute half of that to the for the parks.
Then he up to it like a track wheelchair for this disability, people with disabilities access to parks.
Do they not have that now?
Well, we've got a few we like to we'd like to get more around the bigger parks or a kayak kayak launch.
Yeah, some of those kind of things.
So, you know, it goes up, it goes up the chain that
We try to we try to help friends groups and there's 67 Well, let's start.
There's 50 state parks.
Okay, there's 44 state trails and there's 67 friends groups now.
I'm gonna ask you a question about this about state There's a 44 state trails.
There is they're all in land except for one
They're
all on land except for
one which would mean it would have to be sky or water is
water water water, okay a kayak Well, there's a there's actually a trail along Lake Michigan kind of from Sheboygan North.
Oh wow nice Yeah, so that's the only one that's not on land.
How
do you do is it kayak or is it like?
Well, you can
you can swim you can walk you go.
Oh, thanks
That's why I didn't bring the kayak.
He just lost me, Cliff.
That's why I didn't bring the kayak.
And then, of course, the Ice Age Trail is big, too.
Yeah.
That's 1,200 miles.
That sounds so cool.
I love that.
Well, all right, so let's, before we run out of time, I want to talk about your, you have a couple of big events coming up, but people can find out more information about what you're talking at the website, which is.
And donate, too.
And donate.
And donate.
And
feel free to donate.
I'm going to give Cliff
He's going to donate back this
nice... Whatever
I sell that for on eBay, I'm going to give you the money.
It's fwsp.org, fwsp.org.
And if
there's donate buttons all over that website,
you can't get on the website.
And like
you said, even a buck, if everybody, you know, that's
kind of
cool.
Talk about these, you have this September 20th.
Tell us what's happened in September.
So September 20th at Interstate Park, which is in St.
Croix Falls.
The reason is that was the first state park in Wisconsin in 1900.
Cross River is the Minnesota Interstate Park.
So September 20th is going to be the celebration of 125 years of state parks.
That's really cool.
So and then you have another big event coming up that you said you didn't have all the details on but people can find
their lap and peak is opening up a new new Visitor Center, okay, and that's coming up in May go to the website to find that and then one last thing Pete.
Yeah So how can your listeners help donate?
We talked about that.
Yeah, join a friends group and volunteer the other thing is if I found out trying to raise money that some of these businesses
You have to have a sponsor that works for the business to get your foot in the door.
So if you're in a business where they have a giving program for recreation and we need a sponsor, get ahold of us on the website.
Get ahold of us on the website.
I think Conrad LLC is all we need.
We can donate through that.
Cliff, this is fun.
Thank you, buddy.
Ginger beer by the way, keep up the oh, yeah, I didn't ask you your favorite cool summer drink ginger beer is perfect cuz let's floss gingerly one more text in the 414 Tom checks in says lemon with a shot of tequila lime is over overrated or underrated overrated He's chiming in with the drinks.
He doesn't like okay.
Thanks Tom I would like to thank my guest mr. Cliff wall who came into the studio tonight.
That's always fun.
Great to see you, buddy
Ben
Giles co O'Neill
And thank you for all your texts and calls, ladies and gentlemen.
We'll be back to do this all again tomorrow night on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad.
I'm Pete Chihuahua saying good night,
Wisconsin.