Gene Hackman & Yahtzee (Hour 2)

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Gene Hackman & Yahtzee (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Thu May 1, 2025

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Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Chihuahua.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a guy still not convinced computers are here to stay, Pete Chihuahua.

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Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

I have something in my throat there.

You know what it is?

It's gelato.

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Hey, I was gonna say,

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is it gelato?

Welcome to night, ladies and gentlemen.

I'm having a little gelato.

It's a Thursday night.

It's the Christmas Eve of weeknights, and I'm in casual mode.

It's like basically casual Friday.

Just having some gelat.

It's good stuff.

You know what?

And it should be like happy gelato because they're open again, but this weather, I'm telling you, I've about had it.

I almost woke up this morning and I was gonna take a walk and then I go out in my living room and it's raining and I just wanted to crawl in bed.

I wanted to crawl back in bed and do the show from bed.

That's how, that's what the mood I'm in.

Like this has been like the suckiest spring that I can remember.

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Yeah, I mean yesterday it was, I was wearing shorts, you know, and I was sad when I had to put pants on again

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today.

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You were sad.

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You had a sniffle while you were putting your pants on.

Exactly.

No, but it's, you're kind of winter shorts guy anyway, to a degree.

This is getting, you know, it's,

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the rain's hitting your legs then, it's kind of cold.

Get

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your leg hair all wet, it's a bad look.

all the way around, even in downtown Green Bay.

It's fantastic.

This is fun, folks.

We have a great show tonight.

It is great to be on the air talking with all of you, building a community here through entertainment, through movies and TV and music and comedy.

Let's connect here tonight and really get this thing done because we want to go into the weekend feeling good.

There's some great movies out there.

There's some big movies opening this weekend and lots to watch on TV.

If the weather is going to be like this,

I say, I'm gonna stay and watch TV.

Checkmate mother nature, that's what I say.

So we'll cover all this kind of stuff tonight.

In fact, it's Thursday and that means there's gonna be a popcorn pick of the week.

A new pick that you can check out this weekend and making that pick will be my pal, Dobie Maxwell.

He is a Wisconsin based comedian.

He's an author.

He did radio for years.

This guy is a show business.

just a workhorse and hilariously funny.

He'll be here at 6 30.

We'll talk to Dobie.

We'll get his popcorn pick of the week.

He has a new comedy special he wants to talk about.

We'll certainly bring that up as well.

And then at 7 20, my pal Jim Healy from Jim is one of the program directors at UW Cinema Tech and the Wisconsin Film Festival.

And the word cinephile gets thrown a lot thrown around a lot.

Jim is an absolute cinephile like he's

A couple years ago on Facebook, he posted that he watched almost 800 movies in one year.

Now, he has to do that to some extent for the Wisconsin Film Festival, but he's just a movie buff, and he is very knowledgeable and really fun to talk to about film.

So we'll do that.

We'll dabble into a little Gene Hackman at 720, maybe some Michael Mann on the heels of our conversation last night with Mike Schmidt.

Maybe we'll touch on David Lynch and

He'll tell us what he's been watching, too.

I know he saw Sinners.

Have you seen Sinners?

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I have not seen any of the big releases yet, you know?

I want to go see that and Thunderbolts.

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Yeah, Thunderbolts reviewed well.

It got like high 80s on Rotten Tomatoes, but I feel like they kind of grade Marvel movies a little differently.

I feel like they

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just did not like Marvel movies, the critics kind of put bad reviews on them most of the time.

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Yeah, but I mean what are I mean the one with

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I'll admit the Captain America movie that came out was bad

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And that you know what countered that I want to say if I remember correctly got about a 50% a rotten tomato and that's not panning it It's just not fresh, but it's not like You know, I don't know I I don't know how I feel about that But anyway, it got good reviews, but sinners is like crushing like it typically folks when when a movie opens big

And let's say it makes $100 million of the box office.

If the next week it makes like $40 million or $50 million, that's still considered a healthy gate and not huge drop-off.

And especially in the horror genre, which Sinners is in that realm, there's an even bigger drop-off typically.

Well, Sinners set a record last weekend.

It made like $45 million in its opening week and it only dropped off 6% in its second week.

So that is

insane, crazy word of mouth.

And it's a vampire film.

And Ryan Coogler just has a magic touch.

Everything that guy makes, whether it's Creed or Black Panther, he just he's got it.

He's a very good filmmaker.

So I'm very excited to see Sinners.

I'll probably see Thunderbolts at some point.

But I have to say Sinners is probably first on my list.

And I haven't seen a good vampire film in a while.

So I'll probably check that out.

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You know, the last the last good vampire movie was Renfield.

Wait.

Oh, you're joking.

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What does

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Ren feel like?

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That's the Nick Cage movie.

Spacing

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out.

Oh, dear God.

The Nick Cage with, uh, I can't think of his name.

Pete Chihuahua

Let me go to the Google quick.

Yeah, go to the Google.

I kind of remember that, but I don't really, but I don't really remember that.

There is a new Nick Cage film opening this weekend too, um, called The Surfer.

He takes his son back to surf where he surfed as a kid.

And as it turns out, it's been taken over by tough guys surfers.

And you might be laughing at that, the idea of tough guy surfers, because I did too.

When I lived in LA, I kind of laughed when somebody alluded to the fact that surfers were tough guys.

Because on the surface, at least, they don't seem like that.

They just seem like chill and riding waves, but they're extremely territorial.

And that was news to me.

That was an education.

So this movie, The Surfer,

Think it looks pretty good and it got good reviews, so I'll probably check that out, too So sinners and surfer I think are on my list,

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so it was Nicholas Holt

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Oh Nicholas Holt.

Oh, he's all over the place

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Yeah, he was the he was Renfield's like he played his

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assistant or something like that

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and yeah, so It was a good movie though.

I enjoyed it.

It was it was a fun movie I got a rotten tomato

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that

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because

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I remember that being out but not seeing it or

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You know on Google users 72% like this movie.

Pete Chihuahua

Okay.

That's pretty good 58 58 and rotten tomatoes.

Yeah That's not awful So lots to watch especially if we're gonna have crummy weather.

I know Sunday is supposed to be like 60 and sunny so that'll be fun But we also I need to get to we had a couple of texts come in overnight from our pal bud

who listens between four and six when he's tossing papers out of his van.

I think that's how he described his gig.

But these came in very early, 4.27 a.m., very admirable bud.

Bud does more between, you know, four and five a.m.

than most of us do all day.

And hopefully he wasn't getting rained on this morning.

He says, Pichuaba, man who can fart in any key, ha, love your show, bud from Janesville.

Boy, I already regret bringing up that fart walk thing last

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night.

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I just, I went there and I haven't really gone there with the show, but it was so silly to make the term is go have a fart walk, get rid of the, you know, it's supposed to be healthy.

And you just don't, you don't need to make it clinical.

It's like, you got to rip one, go outside and be a gentleman.

We don't need to give it a name or a title for medicinal

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purposes.

A gentleman's walk?

A

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gentleman's walk, that's great.

I love it.

But texted us again, he says, hey, Pete, in my pocket, that was last night's question of the night.

What's in your pocket?

A beer bottle cap and my car keys.

Probably not a good combination.

Love your show, Bud from Jamesville.

But you know what?

At that hour, I'm not encouraging anybody to drink and drive, but I don't know.

Just make sure the papers get to where they get to.

And thank you for listening and thank you for the text, buddy.

Great to hear from you.

Ed in Madison says, keep up the good work.

You are awesome.

That might have been meant for Maggie, though.

I don't know if you could keep it right as we were going on the air.

And then Brian from Green Bay, that's the 920 says, OK, Yoko doing the show from bed.

Oh, that's great.

Yeah, I'm not above that.

Right.

If this weather continues, I will find a way to do nightlight from my comfortable warm bed because this is getting ridiculous.

I don't blame you, Brian, but I'm not saying you're innocent either.

All right, that catches us up, but I think we should get to the question of the night.

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Let's talk about

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the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

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Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

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What is your favorite, or least favorite, emoji?

We are just the emoji culture.

Even in business emails now, people put an emoji at the end of something.

And that fascinates me.

I remember as early as like, I don't know, 2009, 2010, whatever, if another man sent me a smiley face, I felt weird.

I wasn't comfortable with that, but now, look at me, I'm Mr. Emoji.

Laffy face, thumbs up, disco guy.

I'm like, so I've totally become part of the culture.

I've embraced emojis, but I don't know how I feel about it.

So.

What is your favorite or least favorite emoji?

We're letting you go two ways here.

You can go both ways.

Or you can pick a lane and tell us your favorite or your least favorite emoji.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2-8-5-5-7-5 Civic or text us on the app.

Very easy to use.

How great is the Civic Media app?

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It's great.

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I mean, rarely.

This is going to sound like I'm blowing smoke.

But sometimes when I'm out with my friends having a beer, I'll just talk about how great the Civic Media app is.

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You just download it.

You click on the station.

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It's

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that simple.

And guess what?

You can just click the text button.

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It gives you

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the number right there.

Text in.

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No excuses.

So

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easy.

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Get to it.

Or if you're listening on the stream or watching on the stream, I should say, at ex Facebook or YouTube, send us a message there.

We will read it on the radio.

What is your favorite or least favorite emoji?

Do you have one?

Do you want me to be

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serious here?

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I don't care.

I like the middle

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finger emoji.

Really?

Sent it to all my friends all the time.

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You know what?

I went through a phase a few months ago where I'd seen one too many people flipping off the camera and posting it on social media.

I'm like, enough.

This is stupid.

Like, OK, you're a rebel.

I get it.

Relax, easy rider.

But then I found a picture.

I was going through an old bin of pictures.

trying to find my light blue tux picture for when for when my straila was

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here

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and I couldn't find it but I found a picture of me in college with another guy and we're both flipping off the camera so I am a total hypocrite I admit that so but I think what I where I was going was I think it's funnier in emoji form it is funny looking emoji

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it is and I'll say this with the you know flipping off the camera and

It's funny when you just are scrolling on like Facebook or something and that's what comes up.

Like, did you really have to share that to?

Right, you didn't need

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to post that.

Yeah, you know, you're not breaking new ground.

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I will say it.

Probably the most used one, though, is the laughing one.

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I

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send it when things aren't even that funny just to make them feel better.

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Ellen DeGeneres used to do a great joke about how people would put in parentheses, ha-ha.

After they wrote something like, you wouldn't have figured it out.

If you have to say ha-ha, there's probably not a great

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joke to

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begin with.

But yeah, I totally get that.

So that's what we're talking about tonight, folks.

That's our question.

What is your favorite or least favorite emoji?

Feel free to chime in and we will read your text on the radio.

That's always fun.

I'm already anticipating what Bud is gonna say at 4.30 in the morning or where his head will be.

the newspaper when it comes to the newspapers exactly I read this in our our favorite hard news website puberty here we go 65% of people say they're afraid of phone calls

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you know honestly I I don't answer phone calls that I don't know because I

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don't

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either obviously they're trying to sell you something or whatever

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but I'm not afraid are you afraid to answer

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Yeah, what if they tell me something and then I believe it?

You don't trust yourself.

I had one one time that said, I think I was around, I don't know, 17 or something around there and said I was in debt.

I was like, what?

I'm in debt.

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How do they know that?

They don't.

Who is this?

They just, they're trying to get money.

All right, so that's what we're talking about folks.

What is your favorite or least favorite emoji?

That's tonight's question of the night.

It is a popcorn pick Thursday night.

Dobie Maxwell will be here making that and Jim Healy and I will talk great directors in the second hour.

It's gonna be a lot of fun and we'll we'll continue with this after the break this hate picking up phone calls.

I think I'm with you.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight.

Great to have you with me on this Thursday on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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last bite of gelato with the end of the break, and it didn't really work out very well.

I got one of those headaches now.

Hey, it's Pete Chihuahua.

This is Nightlight.

Welcome back, folks.

Great to have you with me on this rainy, horrible, miserable spring day in Wisconsin.

I know I'm usually like a pretty positive guy, but I've really had it.

I'm done with this weather.

And we were talking about during the break, and I probably should have brought this up on Monday, but it completely slipped my mind.

Shadr Sanders.

Oh, we got a phone call, okay.

Conrad's like, it's very similar to like when I get to a punchline, when I'm with a table full of people, and right as I'm about to say the punchline, the waitress walks up and I have to restart the whole story.

So, was that for me?

Conrad (co-host)

Just had to do, I have to take some tools to the box.

We

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got problems with the phone again?

I'm just gonna eat, I'm just gonna eat yogurt all night, or gelato, sorry.

All right, our question of the night, folks, is what is your favorite or least favorite emoji?

Ed from Madison says, you're awesome too, but yes, that was from Maggie.

That's all right, Ed, Maggie is awesome.

I kind of figured that, but I just thought it was good to read a positive text, regardless of who it was directed to.

Lori from Hayward says, favorite ones, Lori from Hayward.

I don't see emojis though, do you?

Conrad (co-host)

If you scroll down?

Yeah, yeah, there's some emojis there.

That's kind of a

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funny one.

It's the happy face with one eye closed and the tongue out.

Now, whoever designed that is really doing a deep dive because I don't think anyone's ever made that face.

Like most emojis are based on a face, a smile, tears coming down, whatever.

This is interesting, Laurie, because I've never seen an actual person make that face.

You know...

Conrad (co-host)

It is, I think most emojis aren't actually based on.

It's like something you wish you could do but you can't.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

You don't think there's a bunch of guys in lab coats getting people to make faces and doing scientific research?

Yeah, this is clinical now.

Could be.

It's like the fart walk.

There we go.

That's the one I like.

And then she sent another one.

Laurie sent another one with a tongue sticking out and eyes like going all googly.

That's a funny one.

Conrad (co-host)

I think that looks like a dog.

The tongue out one?

Yeah, the tongue out with the sad eyes kind of thing.

Okay.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

If you're, if you have an emoji and you want to share it with us folks, we can share it on the stream.

So feel free to do that.

Thank you, Lori.

Those are awesome.

We've got, oh yeah, the phones are going haywire.

What's the deal?

What if we have to make an emergency call?

We probably should use our personal cells then.

No, that's going to be affected too.

Mike, on the social media.

He texted a microphone, a movie camera, a box of popcorn, and a star.

I assume that was specifically geared toward nightlight because of what we talk about in the subject matter.

So that's awesome, Mike.

Thank you.

Mike also texted me the other day and he said, you no doubt know Mike Straylow is from Marinette.

He keeps just having my back.

But I'm like, like, how in the dark would I have to be to book this guy in the show?

and have no idea Mike had a connection to Marinette.

Conrad (co-host)

And have him take the Marinette quiz.

And have him take the Marinette

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quiz.

Mike's awesome.

He always helps me out.

He's found us a few guests, actually, and he was an extra in the Godfather of Green Bay.

Yeah.

He was the guy who was squatting in the woods.

I know, I mean, it was phenomenal acting, but he was a real sport and a great guy.

Matt Harper on social media, oh, he gives, he gives, is that the rock and roll sign, the two fingers up?

You got the pinky and the index finger and then your thumb is holding down the two middle fingers.

I think that just means rock and roll Conrad did you see Matt Harper's?

Yeah,

Cindy from Appleton (caller)

it's rock and roll rock star

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rock star

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because

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the other ones hang loose with it's just the thumb and

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I use

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that one.

Yeah, I like that one.

Yeah, I can dig it Thank you Matt awesome rock rap artist love Matt JB Thompson guy behind the guy Dan Davies has the best collection of emojis Dan has been on the show and Dan says coolio

If a guy uses the word Coolio, I guarantee he uses emojis.

Oh, yeah.

That just lends itself, that kind of language.

And he says, Dan Davies, please share one.

And I think Dan, he shared a kitty cat or something, a kitty cat rocking, rocking out.

I think this is just a personal conversation these two gentlemen are having on our text line, but thank you for playing, guys.

Nikki Sergeev, our pal Nikki, miss her so much.

Least favorite.

Thumbs up, she says, I loathe this emoji.

Boy, that's a strong.

I'm kind of indifferent.

It's like, all right, it's an emoji.

I don't love it or hate it.

But, you know,

Conrad (co-host)

I guess he hates it.

She probably doesn't like it because instead of getting an actual answer, some people just put a,

Pete Chihuahua (host)

yeah, maybe that's why I can't be bothered by actually typing to you.

So here's a thumbs up.

I get that.

Todd Michaels says light bulb.

What's the other one Todd had on there?

I like the light bulb.

I don't know what the light bulbs for though.

Hey, we have a phone call.

Yes, we got on the phone.

Oh, we got Cindy from Appleton.

Oh, love, Cindy.

Cindy, how are you?

Hey, good.

How are you?

Doing great.

What's on your mind?

Well, my

Cindy from Appleton (caller)

least favorite moji is the poop moji.

Oh, that's a good one.

It makes a point, but it's kind of gross.

It is

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gross.

It's like it reminds me like I got to go clean up after my dog or something.

It's terrible.

That's a great.

Do you have one you like or one you actually use, Cindy?

Cindy from Appleton (caller)

Well, smiley face I guess is my favorite but you know the like I say the poop one just kind of turns me right off

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It kind of ruins your day.

Cindy from Appleton (caller)

Yeah

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Thank you, Cindy appreciate the call.

Have a great night Ronnie on the text line from the 920.

Oh, he did the one with the or maybe it's a she I don't know but that with the eyes Looking straight ahead But the eyeballs are looking up and there's just a nothing expression.

I love that one too.

I like I also like the emoji with the little yellow

face, obviously, but it has the glasses on.

And it's just kind of a nothing expression, just glasses.

I like that one, too.

Can we squeeze a call-in counter?

Ollie from Northridge (caller)

Yeah, this is Ollie from

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the Northridge.

Ollie from Northridge (caller)

All right, Ollie, what's up?

Hi, well, being a foodie, I like any of the food emojis.

Oh, sure.

And I'm borrowing my grandson's Android phone, and they have a ton more emojis than the iPhone does.

Oh, is that

Conrad (co-host)

right?

Ollie from Northridge (caller)

But I wanted to say that because of the game last night, I didn't get to hear your whole program.

But I was listening in the morning when your newspaper guy was out and about.

And I wanted to say what was in my pocket was a set of keys because I have been bothered by bears coming in.

garbage.

And so I use the key.

I sleep with the key and that way push the car alarm and scares the bear away.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Ali that is awesome.

We got a run.

We're about to get cut off by a break.

Thank you for the call.

OK.

And that's you need some scary emojis for the bears.

All right.

We're coming right back.

It's a nightlight with Peach

Ollie from Northridge (caller)

Waba.

Pete Schwabba (host)

It's time for the Nightlight Popcorn Pick of the Week, where we recommend a movie that you'll either enjoy or won't.

Here's your host, Pete Schwabba.

All right.

One of my favorite times of the week here on Nightlight is our Popcorn Pick of the Week.

And I always seem to, you know, we get some films that are popular or that you're not surprised by, and that's fine too, because sometimes they're great films and you just forget about them.

And then we get movies like we've had like with Todd Alba.

I don't even remember the name of Todd's, you know, but I have them all written down, but I love getting an obscure one that you don't see coming.

So we have no idea what is in store for the pick of the week from our current guest.

who is here tonight and going to make a said pick.

He is a Wisconsin comedian.

He's also done radio.

He teaches comedy.

He's got a new special.

He's all over the place.

I think he's written several books too.

He's a man of letters and he's here tonight on Nightlight.

Dobie Maxwell, hey buddy.

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

There are Pete of Schwab, but thanks for having me back.

It's a treat.

You know, when Johnny gave you the, you know, it used to be when he gave you the one of these, you know, and same thing, I was great on the first time and thinking, I wonder if we had a good time.

You called him, asked me back.

I got the call from Conrad.

I am delighted.

So I made the cut.

Thank you.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Dude, I, first of all, you know, sometimes you just, you were awesome.

That was a lot of fun.

And

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sometimes you

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just kind of forget, you know, it's like you've done radio and you're like,

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oh yeah, I got

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Adobe on again.

So

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I'm glad you made the

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time.

Thank you.

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

Love the show.

How you been?

You know, it's uh, I was assaulted in a parking lot and it's like when you assault the comedian, I'm pretty laid back.

It really is a hard job.

And I was, I'm a guest on a sports talk show in the Milwaukee area and I've become a fun.

I've been walking now.

Uh, I had type two diabetes.

I got diagnosed.

I've been walking 1100 straight days of a 10,000 steps a day.

That's five mile.

So I went in there and I brought her veggie tray and people made fun of me and it was fun.

So now it's become a tradition.

When I go in, I bring a veggie tray.

So I stopped at the grocery store, picked it up, I'm in the car.

We've all been in this situation.

It's you're right by the front door, five miles an hour, you're trying to leave the grocery store parking lot.

There was a, I don't want to call her a woman.

It was a female.

The NFL draft just was, she would have been about a third or fourth round nose tackle to Ed rusher, large woman.

And which is fine.

You know what?

Hey, we all have our thing.

And she thought I was trying to hit her.

I'm doing five miles an hour, Pete.

And she comes up and she just starts yelling and screaming.

It goes from zero to I'll kill you and learn how to drive.

And she's swearing at me.

So I'm thinking, I got to diffuse this with humor.

You know what I'm saying?

She's in a bad mood, probably had a bad life.

My window's down.

I said, hey, sweetie pants, are you coming on to me?

You talk to me like that.

You got to buy me dinner.

Okay, come on now.

Let's just calm down a little bit.

Pete, she walks up a foot from my face and spits right in my eye, spits in my face.

Have you ever had that happen?

I've never had that happen in my life.

Wow.

And I'm thinking, okay, this is a salt.

Now, do I have to go home and boil my face?

Do I have to drink bleach?

Maybe.

It could be, it could be, you know, COVID or trench mouth or foot and mouth or hoof and mouth, whatever it is.

So I'm thinking, okay, this day and age, every parking lot in America has probably has to have to be filmed.

So I'm just gonna, I'm going to go in, I'm going to report it.

Like, just look, this is not good.

I'm trying to, you know, be nice here.

I'm not trying to hit anybody.

Yeah.

You got this big piece of luggage.

And I'm assuming it was a purse.

And I looked at her and I said, what's that?

Your feed bag?

And she turns around and clocks me right in the face.

My glasses go flying.

I'm laughing.

I'm thinking, nothing good can happen here.

If I, if I attack her, which I'm not a violent person, but if I attack her, I beat up a woman.

If she beats me, I got beat up by a woman.

Nothing good is going to happen in this situation.

So I had to go fill out a police report and they looked at the video.

It's like John Madden with the Telestrator and said, well, we can't really be.

We can't be sure that she spit in your face.

And I was late for the radio show, so I had to go there.

And the guy said, I saw it wasn't his fault.

She spitted him.

It took two men to tackle her down.

And I had to leave.

I had to be on the radio station.

So I think I broke my finger on my left hand.

It looks a little

Pete Schwabba (host)

swollen there.

Yeah.

It looks like it was brought worse.

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

Oh my gosh.

And then my left knee is messed up.

So it messes my walk.

So you know what?

I'm thinking, OK.

I got to watch my smart mouth.

There's a lot of people that are that are just ready to go in the world right now.

Oh, yeah.

You're just picking time bombs.

I'm thinking, you know what?

You got to shut your mouth sometimes.

Pete Schwabba (host)

You know, there's so much to unpack there.

I have to go back to

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

start with that.

But that's

Pete Schwabba (host)

what's happened.

And that's a great intro.

And, you know, but you who made fun of it?

First of all, OK.

here in Wisconsin, you show up with a veggie tray and someone makes fun of you.

That seems wrong.

That was the first red flag of the whole story.

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

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Pete Schwabba (host)

You're right.

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

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You're

Pete Schwabba (host)

You are right, though.

Like, you have to be ready.

Like, you almost can't—like, I've never been—since I've been about 30, probably.

I haven't been afraid to confront people.

If something's BS— Sure.

And now, I got to be honest, it's not like I'm more—I'm just more hesitant because things escalate so quickly.

You don't know

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

who you're

Pete Schwabba (host)

dealing with.

You don't know if they have a gun.

It's just—it's a terrible time to confront people.

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

It's under five seconds to—I'll kill you.

Okay, maybe I was close to it.

Dude, it's five miles an hour.

We've all been in that situation.

It's a grocery store.

move your tuchess honey let's go it's like it's cars you gotta cross the thing but she just it just rage and anger i'm thinking okay she probably had a hard life i'm not trying to be but i tried to just freeze it with humor and she did she was not in a laughing mood i'll say

Pete Schwabba (host)

that you said she went up to the window i thought you were gonna say and we're now registered at bedbath and beyond but

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

it went the other

Pete Schwabba (host)

way and i can't like do you think you could have taken her

Let's, let's say you

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

guys did throw down.

No, I would say in the WWE, she would have been a light heavyweight champion.

She was a big woman there and she had the red hair, looked like, you know, Ronald McDonald with a condition.

And I said, you know, the tattoos, and I don't want to be stereotyped.

I don't judge people.

I really don't.

You know what?

I've had a hard life.

I'm just trying to get through.

But to go from that, you know, I'm trying to say, okay, let's have a laugh about it.

I got too close.

I'm sorry.

But this, no, this was not a.

I'm glad you're OK, dude.

Yeah, thanks,

Pete Schwabba (host)

man.

Yeah, that's scary.

Very unsettling to hear that right out of

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

the game.

Let's talk happy things.

So if you're up in Krivitz and somebody, I think in the city, that's why I like the hinterland.

You don't get that in Rhinelander.

Oh, come on over for the Packer Draft.

Pete Schwabba (host)

True.

Did

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

you watch your draft?

I know you're a Bear Stand.

It's totally cool.

But every football fan watches a draft, no matter what happened to be in Green Bay this year, but you watch it and you're just assuming your name's going to get called.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Well,

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

I wasn't assuming

Pete Schwabba (host)

my name was going to get called, but

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

I

Pete Schwabba (host)

did watch.

And yeah, I don't we talked a little bit about it because Conrad took some time off and went over to the draft.

Did you were you happy with how things unfolded?

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

You know what?

I just think it's cool, you know, because we're never going to how many people actually get to experience that.

Yeah.

Not even just get dropped in the first round and you're on TV and everybody's in your living room.

It's just a cool thing.

Most people don't get I would love the backup punter, the Buffalo Bill's draft Beach Schwabba.

called Cajun End-Arounder.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I don't think, I do think I've reached a point in my life where I live vicariously.

I can relate to people sitting in the living room.

And I'm genuinely happy for them.

I'm like, this is, what a great moment.

This must be for this person, you know?

Except

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

for

Pete Schwabba (host)

people who like Shadr Sanders, like we were talking about.

You know, I don't know what the guy's deal is.

I don't know what happened, but that was getting a little weird.

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

You know, it was, and you look at a situation where, hey, okay, his dad's an NFL coach.

Well, you know what, if you had a kid, you would protect your kid too.

Yeah.

And you know, at the end standards, I look at it, it's like.

I wasn't there.

I don't know.

I thought everybody

Pete Schwabba (host)

liked him though.

I thought Dion Sanders was really popular with like

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

the NFL

Pete Schwabba (host)

alumni and but I don't know anything about it.

So who

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

knows?

And Shadr seems, you know, he had a good good college career and his teammate went number two and it's like, hey, he's got a great chance now to prove everybody wrong.

Okay, I'm going to come in there and be good.

I look at it as a pot.

You wish the guy well.

I'm sure anybody bad.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Well, all right, let's go to, let's get this popcorn pick going here

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

and then we'll

Pete Schwabba (host)

talk about, you got some other cool stuff we have to talk about.

My guest is Dobie Maxwell.

He is here to make the popcorn pick of the week.

Dobie's a comedian, Wisconsin based.

He's lived all over though, but I know he loves his home state and he's got a few things we'll get to in just a minute, but I want to ask you like what

How do you watch movies, though?

Are you a theater guy or

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

at home?

I thought about this when you approached me and said, I love this concept.

I'm old school and I'm cheap, okay, which I don't know that's gonna be, and I'm from Wisconsin.

So I went to a rummage sale maybe three or four years ago.

And it was so funny, this married couple, they're moving out of their house.

And this guy had about four or 500 DVDs in the binders.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah.

And

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

all the guy movies, all the Star Wars, all the Godfathers, all the Guy Hard movies, just everything.

And I just got a wild hair up my nose and I said, how much for all of these?

And his wife perked up, you can have them all for $100.

because she wanted to have gone.

You could tell that that was a big bonus content.

She wanted to have gone.

And the guy's like, oh, well, that's all I said.

Well, sold $100.

So before he could say no, I bought them.

So I went through them all and I figured it out.

They come to about 14 cents a DVD.

for all these and there's great movies in there and there's like 400 of them and all the guy movies in there so I'm thinking okay I have DVD players like 40 bucks at you know Menards has them and I pop in movies and I you know I own them I can watch them as many times as I want to I can put them on pause I can change my transmission fluid I can do whatever I want to and watch them that's how I like to watch movies and you say what what I like to make my own food and watch them so

That's probably not the sexy answer, but that's how I like.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Hey, however you do it.

I mean, I know there's this big movement now to try to get people back to the theater.

I'm all for that.

I love

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

I love going

Pete Schwabba (host)

to the movies, but I probably watch more at home than I do in the theater just by way of convenience.

So no, I think that's a great answer.

What's the last film you've seen in the theaters, dope?

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

Oh, man, that's a really good question.

It's been a while and.

I can't that's a good you caught me off guard there.

I can't God father been that long.

You got Father Green Bay.

I think was I really don't recall.

Okay.

Give me off off guard.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah, do you I love the I do see DVDs at garage sales once in a while and I don't go to many of them but if it's like on the way home

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

and

Pete Schwabba (host)

I see something I'll stop.

but I rarely like the movies.

Like it'll be like a 70s or like Steven Segal movies or something.

I wouldn't even pay 14 cents for something like that.

But like, I, and I also hate, this is what drives me crazy when I'm walking through the garage sale and the owner is bird-dogging me, trying to give me

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

the history

Pete Schwabba (host)

of every little

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

item.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I'm like, I don't, I'm not going to do the same thing you did with your stuff.

Just back off and let me, you know, kind of visualize this end table in the basement, you know.

So,

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

but anyway,

Pete Schwabba (host)

what is your, do you like, let's, all right, let's do this though.

If you were watching a movie in a theater and a bunch of people were talking, and I run into this often in Marinette, it's either older people who think they're in their living room and they talk loud or the kids who are in there just hanging out and wanted to pay 10 bucks to do it.

I don't get that either, but what would you do?

Do you confront them or do you just kind of let it pass?

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

You know, again, I try to be nice and after this latest incident, I don't know if I'm going to confront anybody in my life.

You know, I'll get, I'll get whacked at the old folks home.

But I like to, you know, do the whole cough thing like, like you got whooping cough, like, you know, go right behind him.

You try to be nice about it.

It's like, shh.

And some people, depending on where you are, will write to them.

We all paid to get in.

Isn't it fair?

Talk afterwards.

Go outside and talk.

You don't have to.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I did that too and I Conrad I told you this when I went to see I think it was long legs kind of a creepy movie And I get in there and I sit down.

I'm the only one in the theater So I kind of want somebody else to show up so I'm not on my phone like I could be in my living room So this couple comes in and they sit I'm in the last row.

They sit right in front of me Like it's their favorite spot.

You got the whole theater.

Yeah, and they sit right in front of me So I had to be the guy to leave

and go somewhere else in the theater.

Oh, God, that drove me crazy.

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

Now, see, okay, now, that's cool.

What I would have done is just reached over and had helped myself to popcorn and snow caps, you know, taking a suck off the big Pepsi.

You sit that close, you're paying for my snacks.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I believe you.

I believe that you would do

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

that.

Do you have a favorite genre, dope, of movie you like to watch?

You know, the guy movies, the mob movies are kind of cool.

Yeah.

Like stuff you'd never do.

And comedy, I don't know, as a comedian, do you watch comedies?

I do.

Once, you know, it's hard to get me.

So again, I love I love Godfather Green Bay.

It exceeded my expectations.

It was wonderful.

But not a lot of comedies do with with the masses.

I'm with

Pete Schwabba (host)

you.

Dobie Maxwell (guest)

I don't tend to think it's funny.

I know disrespect there.

But we're comedians.

We think differently.

Pete Schwabba (host)

And I like I'm with you.

I like to watch something different typically if there's like a new comedy that's all the rage.

and it's a good movie and not just a silly one line, you know, whatever I'll do it.

But all right, we're going to get Dobie's pick.

We're going to do a very quick break and then we'll come back and I've got a couple more questions for Dobe.

We'll get his popcorn pick of the week and then we're going to talk about his new comedy special, which is pretty cool.

This is Pete Schwab and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Pete Schwabba

Welcome

back.

You have got Night Light with Pete Schwabba.

It is a pleasure to be here tonight and thank you for being with me folks.

Our question of the night is what is your favorite or least favorite emoji?

So send those in, and if you want to send a picture with your text, we can share that on the stream as well.

We've got some good ones so far, and we will get to text in just a little while.

Right now, we usually, I'll tell you, Dope, usually our popcorn pick of the week is done by now, but

Doby Maxwell

that

Pete Schwabba

story was so epic.

I don't mind.

Doby Maxwell

It's worth it.

I have a favorite emoji, too.

The one with the party hat, where they're blowing the noise maker.

Right.

Pete Schwabba

I

Doby Maxwell

like that one.

Pete Schwabba

I like

Doby Maxwell

that one,

Pete Schwabba

too.

And I like the guy in the disco outfit is kind of disco-ing.

When

Doby Maxwell

I first saw that, I

Pete Schwabba

actually laughed.

And now I'm the guy that shares it.

So let me ask you this.

A couple more questions, and we'll get your pick.

Do you have a favorite movie star or someone you'll just go see a movie because this movie star or stars is in it?

Doby Maxwell

Yeah, John C. Riley of all people.

Oh, nice.

I just have that guy.

He does comedy.

He's great.

And he just, every movie he's in, I love.

And the other one is Michael McKean.

He is in everything.

He's in Spinal Tap.

He is in Better Call Saul.

He's in just all my favorite movies.

He was, he was Eleni or Squiggy.

Not that

Pete Schwabba

I love that

Doby Maxwell

show, but I grew up in Milwaukee.

I just, I just, I would love to meet him and say, you, if you're in it, I'll watch.

He's one of those

Pete Schwabba

guys.

I don't know.

When he achieved this or there are certain guys that get to that that point in their career where everybody just wants them in their project

Doby Maxwell

And

Pete Schwabba

he's great as an actor.

He's funny.

He just can do everything and he that's a great Those are

Doby Maxwell

probably a good guy to like in comedy.

It's like you have to be the funniest.

No, you got to be good in the car I'd rather

Pete Schwabba

be with a guy on the road who's good in the car than on stage because on stage

Doby Maxwell

I can walk out of

Pete Schwabba

the room, but if you're stuck with someone in the car

Yeah, it's it's trouble.

All

right, so so what was I going to ask you?

OK, so what is your favorite movie snack, though?

When you're watching movies in the theater or at home, or is it the same thing?

Doby Maxwell

Well, in the theater, actually, I like raisinets and goobers because I like the raisins and the peanuts.

It can't be.

It's got to be a mix.

You eat them together.

I do eat them

Pete Schwabba

together.

And I know that's

Doby Maxwell

probably against the movie snack laws.

And I don't know, but it's because double, it's only, you know, it's $14 for one box.

You got to have two.

But I do like, I do like that.

And at home, I know this is weird.

I grew up in Wisconsin.

I have an affinity for liverwurst.

I just do brown swagger.

A good brown swagger is great.

I love it in a sandwich form and I have a good thick liverwurst sandwich.

I love sauerkraut.

I know that's bad.

I eat weird stuff.

But that's what I like.

I'm home watching these DVDs.

I can do it.

So nobody has to do it but me.

I love it.

I don't bother anybody else.

Pete Schwabba

What do you're making a face Conrad?

What is that face

Doby Maxwell

like?

I don't like I don't like that

Pete Schwabba

food or I do like

Doby Maxwell

that.

My dad is trying

Pete Schwabba

to get me to try liverwurst for probably my whole life and I still will not do it.

Doby Maxwell

Conrad,

Pete Schwabba

it'll

Doby Maxwell

open new vistas in your personality.

Pete Schwabba

What is it?

What is Braunschweiger, too?

Is that just sausage?

Doby Maxwell

No, it's liver.

It's liverwurst.

I don't know if it's the German word for it, but it's just like using it.

It's a good Braunschweiger.

At the store, they have the cheap ones.

I don't know what part of the pig or any other critter that they chop off, but Braunschweiger means the creme de la creme.

Probably

Pete Schwabba

best to ask questions.

No.

I

Doby Maxwell

did that too.

Pete Schwabba

Whenever we would come to Milwaukee, my mom's family, it was from Milwaukee.

The Murphy's were

Doby Maxwell

from

Pete Schwabba

Milwaukee, and my uncle Pat would use the, my mom's brother would put the raw hamburger with onions and salt and pepper on rye bread.

Yes, sir.

And I tried one just to try it, and I don't know why people eat that.

Is it a badge of honor?

Is it kind of like...

Doby Maxwell

Well, I think it comes from about 14 paps blue ribbons and he's just washing them out.

But what I like to do is that's a New Year's Eve tradition and where I come from and Wisconsin.

Well, that I get.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah.

If you make an event somehow, but just

Doby Maxwell

really 24 seven.

Pete Schwabba

All

Doby Maxwell

right.

I like it.

If I'm going to the electric chair, that's what I'm having.

Cannibal sandwiches, liverwurst and everybody.

The person will be like, what did

Pete Schwabba

he ask for?

Doby Maxwell

I'm glad he's gone.

Yeah.

All right.

Myself.

What about the movie, dope?

Which

Pete Schwabba

one did I pick?

Yeah.

Oh, no.

No, I'm sorry.

What about if you're at the movie?

What's your favorites?

Oh, you said I'm sorry.

You told me raisins.

Gubers and raisin that's together got to

Doby Maxwell

be the peanuts and the raisins together

Pete Schwabba

We got a text on the stream PJ says liver worst is and then emojis green face

Give

Doby Maxwell

me the

Pete Schwabba

bar face.

A puke emoji.

All right.

Doby Maxwell

And then he says

Pete Schwabba

those are also my favorite emojis.

All right.

I think we're ready.

Conrad, drum roll please.

Let's get Dolby Maxwell, comedian Dolby Maxwell's popcorn pick of the week.

Doby Maxwell

Eastbound and down, loaded up and trucking, Smokey and the Bandits.

Oh, nice.

Or Reynolds, Jackie Gleason.

Pete Schwabba

Awesome.

Doby Maxwell

1970.

Here's the reason I picked that.

Now, most comedians, now you seem like a normal guy, Pete, and I really respect you and I like it.

I think you're really funny.

Most comedians are just whacked out.

I mean, they say, you know, that whole troublesome childhood.

I call it a dented can.

My dad was a biker.

I was raised by my grandparents and my grandparents fought like cats and dogs.

And the reason I say smokey in the bandit, one of the only times I remember all three of us getting along in the same room.

I was about 15 when that movie came out and they took me to see it.

So and we all

all left, everybody.

And that movie's got everything in it.

It's got car chases, it's got the hot chicks, Alley Field, it's got jokes, it's got country music, it's got everything you like.

Bert Reynolds is the hot guy at the time, not that I was interested in that.

But I just watch it in my stash that I bought.

that was in there.

I watched it about a week ago.

It still holds up.

And from Jackie Gleason and Buford Justice, the lines in there to go from Ralph Cramden to Buford T. Justice.

That's some range.

As the laugh out loud to this day, I thought it was hilarious.

I love

Pete Schwabba

that.

My favorite line is a Jackie Gleason line from that movie when his kid says he has to go to the, he has to let him off on the side of the road to go pee in Jackie Gleason says, we'll give it a fast shake.

I don't remember much about the movie, but I do remember laughing hysterically when it came out.

And I've got a Bert Reynolds story for you, Dope.

We could do after the news.

Doby Maxwell

Oh, let me hear it.

That'd be great.

Yeah.

Let's hear

Pete Schwabba

it.

We'll do the news.

And Tricky Nicky on the text line says, we've got a long way to go and a short time to get there.

And then a thumbs up emoji.

Fantastic.

Thank you, Tricky.

All right.

Doby Maxwell is here.

The popcorn pick of the week is in.

It is Smokey in the Bandit.

We're coming right back.

I'm going to tell a Bert Reynolds story, and then we're going to talk about it.

about Dobie's new comedy special.

That's all coming up after intermission where Nightlight, where Civic Media's news team, rather, keeps you informed.

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This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a guy who loves to watch true crime, but only if it's shoplifting, Pete Chwaba.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Welcome back to Act 2 here.

Tonight at Nightlight with Peach Waba.

I am Peach Waba.

Conrad is riding shotgun tonight.

And Jim Healy from UW Cinematheque and the Wisconsin Film Festival will be here shortly.

We're going to talk about movies he's seen.

Jim has seen more movies than any of us have put together, most likely.

And he's a blast to talk movies with.

We'll get into.

Gene Hackman a little bit, maybe some Michael Mann, some David Lynch, and it'll be fun.

But for right now, we just had our popcorn pick of the week from comedian Dobie Maxwell, who is here on the stream.

He picked the movie Smoky and the Bandit, an excellent choice, Mr. Maxwell.

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

Glad.

I hope it turns on some people to go watch it again, because it's still funny.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I think it will, because I think that's like one of those movies.

I think some people will go back to watch it just to see if it holds up, and other people will go back to see if it's just to get those laughs they got when they were a kid.

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

very 70s, but it's if you look through that decade in the CB radio, it's good.

Funny stuff.

Pete Schwabba (host)

So here's my story.

When I when I first moved to LA, you were out there about that time to 96.

I was there.

When were you there?

OK, I think I moved out there in 96 or early 97 right

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

around there.

Yeah,

Pete Schwabba (host)

but we got a friend of mine in our building, this guy, Micah Gregory, who's an actor.

He got all these tickets to great stuff around LA.

So he was always offering his tickets to the Hollywood Bowl or this or that.

My wife and I went to see

a writer, and I can't remember his name.

It was just a writer of several TV shows doing a one-man show.

And one of the shows he was hired to do punch-up on was Smoking the Bandit.

And he tells the story on stage.

He was not a great performer, but his stories were phenomenal.

And he said,

All I wanted to do was meet Frank Sinatra.

That's the reason I took the gig.

I gave them some jokes, but I really wanted to meet Sinatra.

So he is in Bert Reynolds' trailer.

They're punching up a couple scenes.

And Bert Reynolds says, invites him to a party later after they wrap that night.

And the guy says, oh, you know what?

I actually want to go over to this bar, because as I understand it, Sinatra goes over there every night after shooting.

I've always wanted to meet Sinatra.

And speaking of the 70s, Bert Reynolds says,

Sinatra's not where the heat's at, baby.

I can't even tell you.

I've never been a huge Bert Reynolds fan, but I'm like, God, what a lame line that is.

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

Oh, you're going to hear that again.

You're going to hear that again.

I love that.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Anyway, great pick.

Thank you

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

so

Pete Schwabba (host)

much, dope.

It's been fun having you here, as always.

And let's talk about your, you got a comedy special, and this is pretty cool.

I never stuck around long enough and stand up.

I don't know if I ever would have had a special, but I'll say this, when I see you guys doing them, it's so great.

And it must be like such a milestone.

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

Well, thank you.

It's called dry bar comedy.

It's clean comedy.

Kind of like the Tonight Show used to be, you know, back in our day, because again, I don't judge anybody's comedy.

I'm not a prude, but I think the average person does not want to see filth.

And a lot of times comedy has boiled down to that for a lot of people, not generalizing,

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but

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

it is.

And a dry bar thing, it's like, they won't have you.

You can't drop any swear words, especially not any F-bombs.

And it's a 25 minute special.

It's a five camera shoot.

It's done in Salt Lake City, Utah, actually Provo.

And it's, they don't pick everybody to do it, but it's one of those things where it's an honor and it takes a while to come out.

So I recorded it last March.

It came out two weeks ago.

Nice.

It's titled Worst Case Scenario.

You can go to drybarcomedy.com, backslash, Dolby Maxwell.

Now, again, I'm not a shill.

It's a paid service, but it's $5.99 a month, but they give you a seven day free trial.

So you can watch a ton of comedians.

It's not just me.

There's a lot of comedians

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on it.

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

You don't have to pay anything.

And I think it's like 40 bucks a year.

And if you're a comedy fan and you live in the hinterlands and you can't get to a comedy club, that's a lot of good comedians you can see.

There's hundreds of comedians for 40 bucks a year.

That's not bad.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

don't get it out of that, but I'm saying you can still watch it for free.

There's a two minute free clip that you can watch, but it's so funny because I bought myself a jacket, you know, it's 500 bucks.

I never, I don't have to spend that for my entire wardrobe up to date.

I'm thinking, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to go on TV and usually I go to the Goodwill and the leprosy section and I get a sport coat with a Yamaha in the pocket.

You know, it says, you know, Saul Goldscherwitz, but this one's got my name on the inside.

So I treated myself.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That's your actual name.

Yeah.

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

Yeah, exactly.

He's got my actual name on it and it really, it.

turned out well and it was just two shows and like Carol Burnett used to do that and the second show is when they nailed a good one and then Tim Conway could make Harvey Corman laugh.

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Yeah,

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

that's because they had one in the can.

So I had a good one in the can so the second one and they spliced it back and forth.

It really came out well.

I got standing ovation at the end.

I'm not I'm

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not bragging.

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

I don't think it was a standing ovation.

Announcer

Nice.

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

But you don't turn an audience down when they think it's they like it.

They liked it.

Announcer

Right.

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

So the people there could not have been any nicer and the woman that they've done it for like I think

It's eight or nine years now, it's been out right around there.

And the lady came up to me and made a point to walk across when I was walking out and said, what took him so long to book you?

You're the best guy we've ever had here.

But out of my bragging, I'm just saying, it took a lifetime.

You've been out on the.

the skids, you know how it is to work.

Comedy's hard.

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I

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

took that off.

40 years is this year.

I've been doing comedy 40 years and it took that long to know what to do on stage and off, how to dress, how to treat people.

For example, one of the makeup girl came in between shows and she's touching up my face and she had the wrong tray of makeup and she's got, she's 19 years old.

She's got this look of terror on her face like she got the wrong stuff.

I said, sweetheart, there's nothing you can put on this post that's going to make it look any better.

So whatever you got, just spritz it up and she laughed.

Well, turns out her mother was one of the higher ups at the production and that got back to her.

So before the second tape and she came over and said, thank you for being nice to my daughter.

It's her job and she's new.

Well, you'd be nice to everybody.

You're a nice guy.

I'm a nice guy.

There's no reason to be a diva or a primadonna or anything like that.

So all everything came together for that one night and it came out really well.

So you hope that corporate people, if you say, oh, this hot new guy, it got like 55,000 hits in the first couple of weeks it

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was out.

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

Boy, this new guy's funny.

It's like, well, thank

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you.

I'm the world's

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

latest bloomer.

I'm not a new guy.

You know, Rodney hit it late.

Some people hit it late.

But if anybody, if you want to go there, it would really help me out.

And especially if you're in Wisconsin, you listen, it's not filthy.

about like a childhood stuff in this particular one, like just, you know, games.

I kept it pretty innocuous.

But I got a style.

If you've never seen me before, it's very bang, bang, bang.

I talk fast and it just kind of rolls.

It goes on a rift and it took a long time.

And people are like, Oh, I love your style.

I want to come out and see you.

So it's an honor.

It's a privilege.

And thank you for having me on to plug it.

I can't be.

Pete Schwabba (host)

So where can people see you aside from the dry bar?

You just said you have a style if you like, your clips have to be on YouTube, I would assume

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

you got the Yachty

Pete Schwabba (host)

cup.

You got the Yachty cup joke anywhere?

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

No, that's hilarious.

Thank you very much for remembering that.

I didn't do it on the dry bar special, but I haven't done it in a while, but I will do that one again.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Do you mind doing it?

Can you tell us the joke?

I don't want to perform your material for you,

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

but no, I haven't done it in a while, but it's just like, you know, I don't have a chance to clean my apartment.

I'm so filthy that I had to get my Yahtzee cup out to find a clean cup to drink out of.

Shake, shake, drink, shake, shake, drink.

Pete Schwabba (host)

You don't take the dice out.

It's great.

You don't take the dice out.

Exactly.

So you just said you've been doing this for 40 years.

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

Yeah, I can't believe what

Pete Schwabba (host)

that

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time

Pete Schwabba (host)

went.

I think people probably assume, oh, you're an old pro and you are, but were you nervous?

Talk about your first special.

Maybe it wasn't your first

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special, but any

Pete Schwabba (host)

special you do, you're going to be nervous.

How did you deal with that?

Were you like, oh, man, I finally got it here.

Now I'm, how did you deal with the nerves?

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

Well, it got to the point.

I lived in Salt Lake City.

I had a radio show out there 20, 20 years ago, and that audience is different.

I mean, kids, it's normal to have kids in the audience, and it just is.

So the age range is about 11 to 80.

And the other two comics, they tape three comics a night.

We do two shows each, and there's two different audiences, but they happen to be women from New York.

And it threw them, and I can totally see where it would.

They were very nice people and good comedians, but they didn't know how to deal with it.

I had lived there before, so I knew what to do.

And it's been 40 years.

It's like the only thing I was nervous about is the plane going to crash before I get out there.

I know what I'm

Pete Schwabba (host)

doing.

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

You know, and so the nerves are really gone.

I have other problems in my life.

That's not one of them.

Right.

I knew exactly what I was going to do.

I knew what I wanted to open with.

Elders talked about that because you have a strong opening, a strong closing.

What you do in between really doesn't matter.

So I had a strong opening and closing and I was it took 40 years to get there and I nailed

Pete Schwabba (host)

it.

That's fantastic, dude.

I'm happy for you.

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

Thank

Pete Schwabba (host)

you.

So do you have dates coming up like live dates you want to share with us or any

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

club?

I wish I had had something.

I am on a sports talk station out of Milwaukee.

They want to do some statewide shows.

And it's just, I put a show together called Schlitz happened, an old Milwaukee

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latch

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

from the taps.

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It's about

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

Wisconsin stuff.

You know, and I want to do that around the area.

It's like, I've had my fill of road.

And I think people laugh just as hard in Krivitz or Rhinelander or Ashland or anywhere like that.

So I want to go around the state and do just local base shows.

My grandma's from Shanno, grew up in Milwaukee, all-star wrestling.

things like that.

So that's what I like to do.

I like to put it together.

So if anybody listening has a theater or just, you know, 100 seats, if I can get 100 people to come out and pay a fare and buy a chachki or a drink, I can make a good living.

At this particular point, I live like a bug.

I just want to entertain and have fun.

Pete Schwabba (host)

You did a great joke.

This might not even have been part of your act.

It might have just been a line you threw away one night on stage, but you said my car's in really bad shape.

You could see the road while you're driving, which isn't so bad because you could just throw your Taco Bell bags.

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

I call it sun floors.

That's a concentration.

My feet are cold.

Put them on the muffler.

Shut up.

Pete Schwabba (host)

You are the second comedian that's been on the show in the last two days who's talked about how beautiful they thought Sally Fields was.

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

Oh, man, at that time.

Mike Schmidt was here last

Pete Schwabba (host)

night.

Yeah, he said the same thing.

I don't think she's ever been mentioned on the show before, and then two nights in a row.

Boom.

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

Babelicious back in the day and she kind of even it even as forest gumps mama So I can know what I'd take her out to an ice cream social

Pete Schwabba (host)

great great great after too Doby

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

Maxwell is

Pete Schwabba (host)

here.

He made the popcorn pick of the week.

He's a comedian You can see his Drybar special online.

It's a well worth the look all those specials are great and Doby crushed his so check that out Tell us we got a couple minutes left dope.

Tell us about the monkey in the middle.

You have a book that you wrote

Can people find that somewhere?

What's that about?

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

You know what, as a special gift to the Peach Wabba listeners, if you send me an email, I will send you a PDF copy for free.

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I'll tell

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

you the short version.

It's 380 pages.

I wrote every word, every punctuation mark myself.

My best friend, since we were kids, true story, robbed a bank that he used to work at in Milwaukee.

He robbed it twice.

Same bank.

He tried to blame one of the robberies on me.

Really true.

I had to wear a wire for the government to get him to confess that he did it.

And I sent my best friend to prison for six and a half years.

Oh, no.

I'm glad you find that funny.

It's true story.

And the thing is.

It's funny, but

Pete Schwabba (host)

it's justice.

He blamed

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

it on you.

He blamed it on me.

But the second one, he wore a gorilla mask and a tuxedo and helium balloons.

That's why it's called Monkey in the Middle.

And it was on the front page of the Milwaukee Journal.

It was all over the TV.

And the FBI thought I did it.

They said, that's exactly what a comedian would do.

Put a, put a gorilla mask on, make it funny.

People talked about it.

It was a real big deal at the time.

There's a lot of twists and turns.

There's funny parts to it.

There's not funny parts to it.

And as I'll say, you know, people, I'll send you a copy, 99 people out of 100.

They read it and they love it and they'll buy it.

It's at Eckhartspress.com.

It's my producer when I worked at a radio station in Chicago, open his publishing company.

So it's a boutique publisher.

But rather than that, if you don't pay for it, I mean, it's a great story.

I can say it because I didn't make it up.

I just have that.

Everybody's got a best friend.

Who's your best friend when you were a kid?

Pete Schwabba (host)

When I was very young, I kid

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

you

Pete Schwabba (host)

Billy Amato.

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

OK, well, Billy Amato robbed the bank and you got to try to blame one on you.

And it's the hardest thing in the world in federal court to testify against your best friend.

But he did it, and I didn't.

And I had to do it.

I'm sorry.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Well, he robbed the bank.

I was just a wheel man.

But so I was abetting.

How much time you get?

I got off of the slap on the wrist, though.

Good for you.

So how do we do this?

People email you and you'll send.

Yeah, is that okay or email?

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

I will send it to you.

I want to make extra work for Conrad, but it's just my name.

Dolby D. O. B. I. E. Dolby J. Maxwell at gmail.com.

If you send me an email tonight before the sun comes up, I will send you a free PDF.

If you don't like it, there is no obligation.

But send it

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to

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

somebody you hate.

No one is not like that.

I'm just saying it's a true story, but it's 380 pages.

I never considered myself a writer, but I put that thing together.

It took 20 years before

or I was okay in my heart to go back there.

It's hard to go back there in your head.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Email him and get the book and check out his Drive-R special and watch his Popcorn Pick of the Week, Smoking the Bandit.

Thank you, buddy.

Always fun.

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

Thank you.

Can't wait to do it again.

Also, I need your mailing address.

You gave it to me before.

I have Conrad.

I got something to send you, and you talk about it on the air.

Oh, yeah.

OK, love

Pete Schwabba (host)

it.

Here it is.

No, I'm just kidding.

I'll give it to you.

All right, you got it.

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

Thanks again, buddy.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Have a great night.

Dobie Maxwell (comedian)

See you soon.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Dolby Maxwell, ladies and gentlemen.

We are coming right back to talk movies with my pal Jim Healy.

And you won't want to miss this, because he sees more movies than anybody, than everybody, I think, maybe, put together.

This is Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Jim Healy

Welcome

Pete Schwabba

back.

Jim Healy

We are

Pete Schwabba

in the middle of act two tonight on Nightlight with Peach Waba.

Great to have you with me.

I think that's the second time I told that Bert Reynolds story because I feel I'm having some deja vu.

It could

Jim Healy

be the rain.

You never

Pete Schwabba

know what's going to strike.

It could be

Jim Healy

the

Pete Schwabba

rain.

We got some text we got to get to.

All right.

Our question of the night, folks, is what is your favorite or least favorite emoji?

We'll get to your texts very soon.

Right now, I'm excited to have this next gentleman on the show.

He's been on the show before.

We've talked some movies.

Jim Healy literally watches more movies than anybody.

And I know literally gets used.

thrown around a lot, haphazardly, but Jim Watch is more movies than most of us have a right to.

He is one of the programmers at Cinematheque and the Wisconsin Film Festival, and he joins us on the stream from Madison tonight.

Hey, buddy.

Hey, Pete.

How you doing?

How are you?

I'm well.

I'm good.

You know, so I have to tell this, I thought you were, I didn't think you were mad at me, Jim, because we don't, we've never really exchanged harsh words or.

tried to date each other's wives or anything like that.

But I didn't hear back from you when I saw you at one of the parties and I said, hey, I texted you and I'd love to have you on the show.

But if it's not, if you just don't want to be on the show, that's fine.

He said, no, I'd love to be on the show.

And then you showed me your phone number and I realized I was texting your office phone for two months.

Jim Healy

So

Pete Schwabba

and I rarely hear back from office phones when I text.

So I'm glad we got this worked out and it's great to have you here.

Jim Healy

I don't even pick up my office phone when it rings.

And of course, it doesn't get any text.

Pete Schwabba

We just saw a statistic tonight that said 65% of the people that get phone calls don't want to answer them.

They're scared of their phones.

So I guess I

Jim Healy

would put you in

Pete Schwabba

that category.

Jim Healy

And that's not true that I don't answer it.

I do answer it, but I can tell you right now, I don't know how to dial out on that phone.

So I only use my cell phone to make calls when I'm in my office.

Pete Schwabba

Oh, that's great.

All right, so let's do this.

Before we get into some movie talk, you've seen a lot of stuff.

I've seen a few things I'm anxious to discuss with you.

But how did the Wisconsin Film Festival end about three weeks ago?

Maybe not even.

Right.

Give us a wrap up.

And if you can, are there any films that you guys showed that people could look forward to seeing maybe that will get like a theatrical release or be available to stream soon?

Jim Healy

I'm sure a lot of them will be probably more streaming than

than theatrically released.

I know, for example, the surfer, this new Nicholas Cage movie, showed at our festival.

I didn't see it at the festival.

I missed it.

So I'm gonna go check it out this weekend.

I know that's opening.

There's a really nice drama about aging called Familiar Touch, which I saw.

towards the end of the festival and that's going to be coming out soon.

Friendship was our opening night film with Paul Rudd and Tim Robinson.

That's getting released very, very soon from A24.

So those are just a few.

I missed the John and Yoko film one to one when it was in the festival, but I saw it right after.

And I guess it's kind of come and gone right now, but man, that was that was terrific.

Pete Schwabba

Really?

The documentary, I assume?

Jim Healy

Really good.

Directed by Kevin McDonald, who started in documentaries and goes back and forth between documentaries that he made the one about, he made the one about Whitney Houston a few years ago.

He made Into the Void about the mountain climate.

And then he'll do then he'll do

narrative films, like he did The Last King of Scotland, which won the Oscar for Forest Whitaker, really good director.

And this is, it's all about John and Yoko shortly in the years, the couple of years after the Beatles broke up and their activism during that time and their various art projects.

And it's just very moving.

And then there's some great

concert footage from the one-to-one concert that they did with, you know, with a bunch of other artists, Stevie Wonders in there, and a bunch of other great performers, too.

Nice.

Pete Schwabba

I don't know if you got a chance to see the movie, Threesome, when it played there.

I did see it.

I thought it was fantastic, and I thought maybe that's something that they would release in theaters because it has Zoe Deutsch.

She's pretty hot right now and a couple other young actors, too.

Jim Healy

I think that's the plan and I've heard great things.

I missed it.

I'm a fan of the director Chad Hartigan.

Yeah.

In fact, he he sent me an email about 10 years ago, maybe more saying, you know, would you would you consider showing my film?

This is Martin Bonner.

It was his first feature and I ended up seeing it at Sundance and

and programming it for our festival.

I can't remember what year, maybe 2014, 2015.

And it's one of the best debut features of the last 20 years or so.

And I saw the next film he made too called Morris from America with Craig Robinson.

And that's also a very good film.

Pete Schwabba

It was great.

It was very thoughtful.

The characters were fantastic.

We had Ethan Ogilby, the writer on the show, one night.

Ben put me in touch and Ethan was great and I got to talk to him a little bit.

He said...

It's fascinating, Jim, because when Ethan was on the show, he said there's a moment in the film about 30 minutes in where the entire audience gasps and nobody sees the twist coming.

So my wheels are turning and I'm watching this and I was sitting with Greg Liana.

We went to see it together and we're sitting there and he's like, has it been 30 minutes yet?

I'm like, I don't think so.

But then that moment happens and it's like, yeah, how did I not see this coming?

But it's just great.

And, you know, he did a great job in the script too.

So that was a fun one.

Jim Healy

That's the best when you have those moments.

I'm really looking forward to it, you know, I only program.

I don't know about 25 to 30% of the festival.

Maybe it was even less this year.

And so I saw I saw what I saw and then I saw a few things leading up to the festival that Mike and

my king and Ben Reiser had programmed and then afterwards I caught up with a couple of things but I still need to do some catching up.

You know I say my new movie viewing numbers are dumb.

My numbers are kind of up where they usually are but I've been

I've been doing a lot of rewatching.

You know, I had this Blu-ray and DVD collection and I, you know, had to start getting to them.

There was a lot of these things out on my shelf still shrink wrapped.

And so, you know, I've been watching a lot of things I've seen before and enjoying that too.

Pete Schwabba

That's OK too.

I hate when I say to someone like, oh, yeah, I saw that, but it's like 20 years ago and I barely remember it.

So you feel like you kind of have to rewatch it.

All right.

Jim Healy is my guest.

He joins us from Madison over the stream.

We're going to talk about Gene Hackman.

We'll talk about what Jim is seeing and what he can maybe record.

that's all coming up next after Civic Media's news team keeps you informed.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Pete Schwaba

Annie from Watertown says, she's in the 920.

She says, from a gal that's not much of a meat eater.

If I had someone to cook for me, I'd go vegetarian, except BLTs and my mom's barbecue beef sandwiches.

But I love what we in Watertown call tiger meat.

Sort of suspect now without good butcher shops, but sort of suspect now without good butcher shops.

But yes, raw ground beef on rye with onions.

No ma, it wasn't the 27 beers, must have bed.

bad tiger meat.

Oh my God, that sounds just awful.

All right, we are talking movies here.

My pal Jim Healy is here from Madison joining us over the stream.

He is one of the programmers of UW Cinematheque, which is always free, a phenomenal place to watch a movie.

And Jim also, Jim, what is your actual title with the Wisconsin Film Fest these days?

Because I know you kind of segued somewhere, and I don't know if I have it correct.

Jim Healy

Yeah, my king's now the artistic director and I'm just a contributing programmer to the festival I'm still director of programming of the cinema tech

Pete Schwaba

You know I was in Madison last week for two nights and my shows over at eight and if I had timed it or been there on a better night I just love watching movies at cinema tech you guys booked such great movies.

It's such a great place You just feel like a film purist when you're watching a movie at cinema tech or something about it.

It's great

Jim Healy

Well, tomorrow night we have our last regular show of the season.

We're gonna be back in late June for the summer, but we've got a 1925 John Ford silent Western tomorrow night called three bad men and we're gonna have David Drazen from Chicago playing live piano with the film.

Oh, I

Pete Schwaba

love that That is so great and that's free, right?

Cinematheque is free to the public

Jim Healy

Completely free.

It's so great

Pete Schwaba

Let's jump in and let's talk about what we've seen.

You've seen sinners.

And I want to start there because I have not seen sinners.

The reviews are incredible.

The drop off after a week, one of the box office like set a record.

It was only 6%.

That's incredible.

What

Jim Healy

did you think of

Pete Schwaba

the film?

Jim Healy

You know, I wish I loved it.

I admired it.

I'm really excited that, you know, such a

That's an original film with lots of ideas is growing at the box.

I was clearly people are responding to it.

Essays are being written about it.

Critics love it.

But I just wasn't carried along with it.

I thought it was entertaining enough.

I wasn't bored with it.

And there are some really, really great performances.

I really like Delroy Lindo a lot.

He's great.

You know, it didn't immediately strike me as a masterpiece.

I certainly wasn't, you know, carried along by it, you know, the way I am, certain films that just, you know, really moved me, I guess.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

Okay.

I'm still going to see it.

I'm curious.

I have

Jim Healy

to

Pete Schwaba

see what the hype is.

You know what I mean?

Like it's just gotten such amazing response from critics and audiences.

So I'm definitely going to

Jim Healy

see it.

Yeah, absolutely.

It's the movie of the moment, like it or not.

It's the thing to say.

Pete Schwaba

What else did you tell me you saw today that I wanted to ask you about?

I have to pull

Jim Healy

out the texture

Pete Schwaba

because I thought I wrote it

Jim Healy

down.

I really like the one-to-one John and Yoko.

I think we talked about that

Pete Schwaba

already.

We talked

Jim Healy

about that.

I saw Working

Pete Schwaba

Man.

It was Working Man I wanted to ask you about.

Jim Healy

It's all Working Man.

Right.

Now, you got Jason Statham.

with the director of the beekeeper, which, okay, I loved it.

It's not any great work of art, but as a piece of action, righteous vengeance, filmmaking, I was with it.

And I enjoyed the work.

I think it's A, working man is the title.

I liked it fine.

It's, I think,

Is it maybe like an old Sylvester Stallone script?

He's credited as writer.

Maybe he wanted to do it for himself at some point.

Really not sure.

Maybe it was something he developed for Statham.

But yeah, he's one of the co-writers on it.

And it's got a little bit of a Stallone feel to it.

And again, some righteous vengeance and some not so veiled politics.

But, you know, but also some some interesting politics too.

And, you know, it's fun.

It was it did the trick.

Pete Schwaba

It's funny because you mentioned the beekeeper.

Pardon me.

I thought like I.

Both the beekeeper and a working man, they have great villains.

Like you just want these guys to die on screen.

You know, like there's such jerks and stay them as such a good guy.

But the patterns I've noticed in both films are those that we hate the bad guys and the hierarchy.

He has to work his way up through four levels of bad people.

And then.

I don't know why they don't do this though, Jim.

This drives me crazy and it could be easily fixed.

They just get sloppy.

Like, you've got all this great action in both Beekeeper and a working man.

And then at the end, he's just, there's a hundred guys shooting at him and they're just missing him and he's shooting.

I'm like, this could be fixed so easily.

I don't know why they do that.

Jim Healy

Yeah, why does it have to be that, you know?

that that hyperbolic I guess right like they had me the whole

Pete Schwaba

way and now I'm like and it's the same thing I don't know if you saw the movie drop but I liked that a lot up until the end and then it just got insane you know

Jim Healy

I like the trailer I you know I wanted to check it out I just after the film festival I stayed away from theaters for a little bit and then I started to come back out again seen a couple of things this last week

Pete Schwaba

Let's talk about Gene Hackman you mentioned earlier when we texted.

They just discovered his actual cause of death and it was just such a, I mean, I would say it's tragic.

It's too bad he went like that, but he was 95.

He lived an amazing life.

So do you have a favorite Gene Hackman film?

Jim Healy

I have several and that's hard.

It's really hard to put, you know,

A finger on the my favorite.

I mean, maybe the best movie he was ever in is the conversation.

Pete Schwaba

Great film.

Jim Healy

Um, and maybe that's his best performance too.

I'm not sure, but, uh, we just, we've shown the conversation twice, once at the cinema tech and once at the film festival.

And we could have put it on our schedule for the summer.

We just put us very small tribute together and I'll, I'll give you a little bit of a tease.

of our summer calendar, which won't be announced till the end of this month, but we're going to do a three-film Gene Hackman tribute, and I'll tell you the three films we picked.

The first is French Connection 2, which we've shown the French Connection before.

His performance in French Connection 2 is extraordinary.

In fact, I think he agreed to do the film of certain conditions of the script we're met.

One is that...

you know, Popeye Doyle gets addicted to the heroin that his nemesis is peddling.

And he has a cold turkey recovery sequence.

And it is just, I think it's a good 10 or 15 minutes of the film.

It's harrowing and disturbing, but also funny and odd and offbeat.

And he's just so, so good.

and really we're seeing.

The other two films we're showing, one is Scarecrow, which is his kind of Buddy Road movie with Al Pacino from 1973.

It's kind of a funny and sad movie about a couple of guys on the road.

Yeah, trying to make a living pursuing their dream of opening a car wash.

love stuff like that and and the third film is is you know one that he probably Hackman himself probably lumped into that huge group of films he started doing especially in the late 80s all the way up through when he retired in 2000 that were kind of like that seemed like money jobs

But, you know, and some of those turned out to be pretty good movies and some memorable films.

And the one we're going to show is from 1990.

It's a remake of a classic film noir called Narrow Margin, directed by Peter Huyams, with cinematography by Peter Huyams.

He's one of the few directors who does and it's a really great looking action film at a time when

you know action films were kind of at their height you know it's like imagine the budget of a movie like cliffhanger this the lone film right you know it's shared by this this this little two-character movie thriller with Gene Hackman and Anne Archer where he's a he's a cop protecting a witness who he's actually

exposed and he's the one who's put her life in danger and he's trying to help her.

And almost the whole thing takes place on a train where the bad guys have boarded and he's trying to hide her on the train.

And it's a lot of fun.

Pete Schwaba

Well, I saw that in the theater and I'm having trouble remembering it.

I think I saw that when I

Jim Healy

was in

Pete Schwaba

Chicago.

And again, yeah, I saw, I rented a recent movie or maybe it was Free Night Moves from Gene Hackman, which I had seen years and years ago too.

I love those 70s movies.

I just, I can't get enough of them.

And it's funny you say that about the noir, Jim, because when I was a kid, I wanted nothing to do with noir.

Like a kid, meaning in college, it's like, get this out, give me Cliff Hanger, you know?

And now I'm just like obsessed with them.

Jim Healy is my guest.

He is the programmer of Cinematheque in Madison, UW Cinematheque, which is always free.

They have a Gene Hackman series coming up this summer, which will be fun.

I want to ask you something, Jim, a little off topic.

Last night, I had a friend of mine on, and he and I are both humongous fans of William Peterson.

And my two favorite films are To Live and Die of William Peterson, To Live and Die in LA and Manhunter.

Right.

Jim Healy

Which came out about six months apart, if I remember right.

Pete Schwaba

Pretty close, yeah.

It was like two big films for William Peterson, a Chicago stage actor.

The chase scene, William Friedkin directed The French Connection, which has a famous chase scene.

He also directed

Jim Healy

To

Pete Schwaba

Live In Diane LA.

Personally, I like To Live In Diane LA better.

Maybe it had to do with where I was in life, whatever, is a more contemporary movie, at least back then.

But how do you rank those chase scenes?

I love the

Jim Healy

one of To Live In

Pete Schwaba

Diane LA.

Jim Healy

Right.

Yeah, I do too.

The French Connection is really, it's kind of a very specific thing, right?

He's racing the train.

Like, being in a car, you know, and if you're taking the point of view of Peterson and his partner in the film, like, it's so much more harrowing, right?

Going the wrong way on a major LA freeway.

And so I don't know.

Is one better than the other?

I don't know if I would say so.

The chase and bullet is pretty good too.

And the one at the end of seven ups is pretty great.

There's actually a really good foot chase with Hackman chasing after Fernando Rey at the end of French Connection 2.

But for car chases, yeah, that's living in LA is great.

And it's also, it's very similar to French Connection, right?

It's like the lawmen who are

really, you know, shady and you're kind of maybe a little bit sympathetic with or at least you, you know, you see them as a different type of, type of villain than you usually see.

And, and, and they're very, they both have very ambiguous endings that kind of just end on a note of, you know, violence and despair and, and

Yeah, really, those are great films.

Pete Schwaba

I couldn't believe, when I was probably 18, when I saw To Live In Die In LA, maybe not even, I couldn't believe the ending.

I was like, what just happened there?

But I do these classic movie picks here at Civic Media every week, and To Live In Die In LA was like a few weeks ago, and the research I had done showed that Fried can want it to outdo himself and the chase scene in French connection with To Live

Jim Healy

In

Pete Schwaba

Die In LA.

Jim, this is fun.

Thank you so much, buddy.

I'm glad we finally connected, and we didn't get to half the stuff I wanted to talk about, but we'll do it again soon, I hope.

Anytime, Pete.

Okay.

Awesome.

Thank you, buddy.

That's Jim Healy, folks.

Check out, well, check out Next Year's Wisconsin Film Festival, but also Cinema Tech right there in Madison.

It's just a great venue to watch a movie, and they bring in such great films, too.

So definitely check that out.

We will be back to wrap this up.

in just a few couple minutes.

It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

Jim Healy

Network.

Pete Schwab

Welcome back to Nightlight.

I am Pete Schwab.

Tomorrow night on the broadcast, we will have Milwaukee film critic Matt Miller checking in from the Milwaukee Film Festival.

Mike Clemens will be here.

We'll kind of put a little bull on the draft.

It got to be like yesterday.

I'm like, how do we not talk to Mike about the draft?

So we'll get him on here for a few minutes tomorrow night.

Michael, give us the...

what his experience was like at the draft.

And then it's a bar ban Friday night.

Terry Barr will be here at 735 with some new tunes.

Going out to the text line, our question tonight was, what is your favorite or least favorite emoji?

And we've had some phenomenal answers.

Ed from Madison says, he sent the devil one with the hormones.

He says, we use this when texting about a particularly trying person in our building.

Isn't that funny that that person probably has no idea?

Conrad (producer)

That's what I use when I talk about you.

That's

Pete Schwab

edgy.

I like that.

Rather that than like, you know, kind of cardigan.

Nothing against cardigans.

I have a couple.

Jim from Appleton says, favorite emoji.

He's got the smiley face.

The thinking emoji.

I like that one too.

And then there's the thinking with the monocle.

That's a great one.

He's got the hang loose the peace and then the monkeys with their hands over their eyes ears and mouth Well done Jim a lot of thought went into that Tyler from Wisconsin Rapids says I think that may have been the ginger assassin from wasa who attacked your guest That's her style.

Yes, you went down to Milwaukee to attack Dobie Maxwell.

Conrad (producer)

I heard I heard about the ginger assassin.

What is that?

Is that that's a real thing?

No, just could be and she is she is the ginger assassin Wow

Stay out of her way.

Pete Schwab

Eric from Madison says, the one where the hands are high-fiving, but everyone thinks it's praying.

Oh, that's funny.

Is that a thing?

No, they're praying.

Yeah, they're praying.

No, that's high-fiving.

That's prayers.

I like where he's going with that, though.

That's a new angle.

I never thought of that.

I like the fist bump.

Fist bump's kind of cool.

They're all cool when you first see

Conrad (producer)

them.

Pete Schwab

Yeah, and they release more emojis

Conrad (producer)

every time.

There's an update.

Pete Schwab

Exactly.

We read Annie's, we've got, oh, and then AJ from the 608 says, high P and C. Ooh.

That's not right.

Fighting words, AJ.

Conrad is very sensitive about his name.

It's high P and K. I'm sure she'll get right on that.

She says, I don't mind Jason Statham.

He's pretty typecast, but I enjoyed Crank and the Meg was fun.

Oh my God, the Meg was hilarious.

I've been fascinated with Megalodons since I was a kid, like a hundred foot shark.

Are you kidding me?

I have one in my backyard.

A shark?

A hundred foot one, yeah.

It's impressive.

You're a renter.

I trained.

I trained.

You pulled that out.

You're the next Jason Statham.

Yeah, he's fun.

He's a great action hero.

I'm with you, AJ, for sure.

Stadietti says, Pete, goobers, chocolate-covered peanuts are a perfectly good movie snack.

I was starting to like, respect, and giggle with your guest, Dobie Maxwell, until...

He said he eats raisinettes mixed with goobers.

That has to be a mortal sin.

I hope Dobie is not Catholic because if he is, he's going to hell.

Did you know raisinettes have been banned in Europe?

I did not know.

I don't know about the ginger assassin.

I don't know about raisinettes in Europe.

I don't know what's going on Steady Eddie, but he says, Dobie eats Braunschweiger while watching Smoky and the Bandit.

I'm sure Smoky and the Bandit are both rolling over in their graves.

No, no, no, puke emoji, green face emoji.

Say it ain't so.

I'm still going to get Dobie's book because it's free.

Favorite emoji?

Well, we know Eddie's favorite emoji.

Sunglasses.

Sunglass smiley face.

It's me, Steady Eddie.

Hee, hee, hee.

Thank you, buddy.

That's a great text.

Brian from Milwaukee says, favorite is rolling eyes.

That's the second rolling eyes one we've had.

And Brian says, favorite also is live long and prosper.

I thought that was Spock.

I thought that was like a star.

Star

Trek thing.

And is that the phrase live long and prosper?

I admittedly, I'm the only person.

I don't know Lord of the Rings and I don't know Star Trek.

Conrad (producer)

Yeah.

I mean, I don't really know Star Trek that well either.

Pete Schwab

But I knew that sign.

I just didn't know the

Conrad (producer)

phrase.

You know, my friends in

When we're younger, we'd always be like, some people can't do that.

They can't split.

Pete Schwab

Right.

Conrad (producer)

Fingers down the middle.

I thought it was Mark.

And I could always do it.

They get jealous.

I could do like, you know, all, all, you know, just look at that.

Yeah.

Some

Pete Schwab

serious dexterity.

That's some serious things.

They got all the girls when you were younger.

Show them that move.

Check.

Hey, girls, check this out.

Let's go play four square.

Brian from Milwaukee says it's Star Trek.

Yes.

Thank you, Brian.

Awesome text everybody.

I'd like to thank all of you for being part of the show.

It's always so much more fun.

I'd like to thank Jim Healy and Dobie Maxwell for his popcorn pick of the week, which was smoky in the bandit.

I was texting while I was talking to Jim, whenever I have like a movie aficionado on, they always mention films and I've never seen the French connection too.

So I texted that.

I didn't want to forget about it.

And when I write stuff on my paper here, I just throw them out and I forget at the end of the show.

So I'm like texting my wife French connection.

prime cuts, I'm texting her all these movies and she's probably like, what the hell is going on?

Narrow margins, I gotta give that another watch too.

So that was fun.

Do we have time for some Johnny Beener?

This is a clip, I love Johnny Beener, I've only gotten to know since I've been doing this show, he's a great guest and this is a clip of his comedy.

My wife and I are doing our best.

It's hard with kids to get wife time, our idea of going out.

having a night out is basically waiting till the kids fall asleep and watching Netflix.

Here's how it works at our house.

One of us picks out the movie, and the other one hates their life for 90 minutes.

And then we switch the next

week.

That's Johnny Beiner.

Check him out.

He's hilarious.

Tony the trucker from the 608.

Oh, he's up.

Is this guy asleep?

I don't think so.

Tony says, Pete, I stand with Dobie.

Liverwurst is awesome.

Best way to get your dog to take a... I can't see that Conrad.

Bath?

Pill?

Oh, pill.

Yeah.

Bath.

What's the liverwurst on the tub?

Oh,

thank

you, Tony.

Tony, we'll expect to hear from you in about 12 hours, too, buddy.

Thank you, everybody.

On behalf of the lovable producer Conrad, good night, Wisconsin.

Recorded Clip

I guess that could work.

We have to try.

What would Brian Boy Tonneau do if he was here right now?

He'd make a plan and he'd follow through.

That's what Brian Boy Tonneau do.

When Brian Boy Tonneau was in the Olympics skating for the gold.

He did two South Cows and a triple as well wearing a blindfold.

When Brian Boy Tonneau was in the Alps fighting grizzly bears.

He used his magical fire breath and saved the made-in fair.

So why would Brian Boy Tonneau do if he were here today?

I'm sure he'd kick an-

Or two, that's what crime plays hot, or two.

I want a speed ship out of-

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