Dells, De Niro, and First Ladies

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Dells, De Niro, and First Ladies

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Mon Apr 28, 2025

Todd Michaels

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy whose house has an actual wiggle room, Pete Schwabba.

Pete Schwabba

Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

It is true.

My house is very peculiar.

almost as peculiar as the word peculiar.

That might be my least favorite word in the English language, peculiar.

It's hard to say, it's weird, but it is nice because the guy that just talked me on here who did the intro, the voice of the network is producing the show tonight.

Todd Michaels, how are you buddy?

Todd Michaels

Peculiar is a very,

Pete Schwabba

it is a difficult word to say.

Yeah, it doesn't seem like it has a place in modern day society.

Yeah.

You know,

Todd Michaels

you can't say that somebody's peculiar because that would be derogatory.

I would think right.

Pete Schwabba

It makes it's derogatory, but it makes you sound weird.

That guy is very peculiar.

It's really peculiar that you said that.

It's really weird.

Right.

The guy's

Todd Michaels

an

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oddball.

Just talk normally.

I think we got a problem with her, Todd.

Marking that down.

How are you, man?

It's good to have you here.

I always like working with you when the con man is out.

He'll be back tomorrow, right?

It took some time off for the draft.

Yeah, he's probably in recovery after the draft.

I don't know if he went all those days, but I know he had a bunch of people coming up.

to stay with him.

He was collecting air mattresses, hitting Goodwill for sheets and kind of all kinds of stuff.

So I don't know what is happening, but I'm sure he'll have some stories to tell about the draft.

Todd Michaels

Remind me to never have to spend the night at Conrad's place.

Pete Schwabba

Air

Todd Michaels

mattresses and used sheets.

Pete Schwabba

If you have to spend the night, if either one of us have to spend the night at Conrad's house, there is either really bad weather or, you know, I don't know, maybe an intervention or Conrad's got some personal stuff he needs to get off his chest and doesn't want to do it here.

I don't know, who knows.

But Todd Michaels, the great Todd Michaels is sitting in for the K-man tonight.

Conrad will be back tomorrow.

Hope he's had a great time at the draft.

I'm sure he has.

It looked like a really fun time.

Todd Michaels

What they're saying, 600,000 people in town

Pete Schwabba

for

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the... What was that possible?

I mean, each day around 200, right?

205 the first.

Blown away by that.

Yeah.

But yeah, congratulations to the city of Green Bay

Pete Schwabba

for pulling it off.

Yeah.

Todd Michaels

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba

I didn't...

It's weird.

I wonder what it would have been like.

Like, obviously, I was in Madison doing the show in part because of the draft.

Todd Michaels

Right.

Pete Schwabba

And I wonder if there was any parking here.

Like, did you guys do the show from here in the morning?

Todd Michaels

We did, actually.

And before you decided to go down, I had marked off some parking spots for us on

Pete Schwabba

the side of the

Todd Michaels

building.

So we did have that.

The interesting thing about it was, though,

There were just random people using our parking

places.

They didn't care.

No, they didn't care.

They went ahead and got the tickets and whatever.

Pete Schwabba

That's

Todd Michaels

so Bush League.

Pete Schwabba

Did you go down there at all, Todd?

Todd Michaels

I did for a little bit.

Pete Schwabba

Did

Todd Michaels

you?

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba

Was it an

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absolute madhouse or was

Pete Schwabba

it?

Todd Michaels

Not when I was there, no.

No.

Pete Schwabba

I saw those lines to the porta-potties, like 30 deep.

I'm like, you could not pay me.

Now, I know friends that have houses along whatever street

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that

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is.

That's a different experience.

I'm sure it would have been cool to be there for the vibe or the ambiance or whatever, but man, the minute you start messing with people's kidneys and the bowel habits, that's a recipe for disaster.

But only

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one person arrested and I think two people ejected over the entire weekend.

So it

Pete Schwabba

wasn't like

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really more than that for a Packard game, right?

Pete Schwabba

So, you know,

Todd Michaels

I'm really impressed by that as well.

Pete Schwabba

It's so funny.

I don't, I will say, I understand why people went because it's an event.

Todd Michaels

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba

But.

It's it's not like there's a contest or a game.

It's just calling out a name.

Yeah.

And there's that many people there.

That's how great like in same in Detroit last year.

Like people just love the NFL.

They are brilliant marketers.

Man, they

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had it.

They had it.

They had it set up.

And I guess Green Bay is in second place either tied with or either a little bit more or less than Nashville when they had it in Nashville.

Pete Schwabba

Oh, as far as attendance.

Todd Michaels

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba

No kidding.

Todd Michaels

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba

I think people probably just want to come here, too.

Green Bay is a bit of a gem for the NFL.

It's a smaller town.

I think people probably just probably wanted to be a part of that.

I think it's great.

So congratulations, Green Bay.

And anyone who attended the draft, my joke last week was Conrad is hoping to get drafted.

And actually, the Marines picked him up instead of me.

So, but I'm anxious to talk to Conrad and see how it went.

Great show on the way tonight, folks.

Great to have you with me.

Monday is finally here.

We finally get to reconvene and talk about the stuff that's important in life.

Movies, comedy, TV, music.

Todd Michael's beard.

Your beard is coming back, dude.

Todd Michaels

I've trimmed it now four times.

Have you really?

So I've kept it short.

Okay.

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba

Todd shaved his beard for, what is that organization called?

Uh, St.

Baldricks.

St.

Baldricks.

Yeah.

Very cool thing that you did there, buddy.

So, and I'm glad it's coming back gangbusters.

Are you always worried that like when you shave your head or your beard, it's not going to come back?

All of a sudden it's like, oh, I guess that's all the hair I had for the rest of my life.

And I just,

Todd Michaels

I really wasn't too worried about it.

Okay.

Yeah.

Cause I know, I know how much hair I have on other parts of my

Pete Schwabba

body and how

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quickly that comes back if I do a little manscaping.

So.

Pete Schwabba

We'll be right back with more Manscaped Talk here.

No, I've gone there too.

And while we're on the area of that vicinity of the body, I was haphazardly putting a belt on today.

Have you ever put a belt through one loop and then pulled it and the buckle comes in, hits you right in the junk?

I mean, oh my, it was debilitating.

Todd Michaels

You really have to be careful when you're doing that.

Pete Schwabba

It was like high school basketball all over again.

I'd lay on the floor and pull my knees up to my chest.

and explain to my wife what happened, but everything's okay.

So that's that.

Hey, I had this thought too, Todd, like I was saying before the show, like Todd does these great intros for me, like a guy with an actual wiggle room, like, you know, you just do such a great job, your voice sounds so cool.

Can I, is this too risque?

All right.

If I say, and now a guy with a pocket full of bad intentions, Pete Schwabba.

I think that's great.

Okay, good, we're using it.

All right.

I kind of tried it out in the air.

I figured I'd ask for an apology or I'd apologize later.

I think that's great.

I've always liked that phrase.

It's ambiguous.

It doesn't necessarily mean there's any nefarious intentions going on, even though there are.

But a great show tonight, folks.

Our guests, Zane Lamprey, the comedian.

Zane was here a few months ago.

This guy, all right, here's why you're going to love this interview.

Ladies and gentlemen, Zane will be here at 635.

He's a comedian.

He's a very funny comedian.

He's also got several shows on TV that all revolve around eating and drinking.

And Zane has been all over the world.

He's had cocktails in various parts in Russia, Turkey, Budapest, whatever.

He has been around.

He has all these great shows on.

He's got one show called Three Sheets, a show called The Twisted Fork or something like that.

Not The Twisted Fork.

What is it?

I have it right here.

Have Fork Will Travel.

He's got a show called Chug.

So he's got a lot of shows about drinking.

He is coming to Wisconsin.

And this guy knows his food and drink, and he's a very funny dude.

And he will be here at 6.35.

Very excited to talk to Zane.

And then the Milwaukee Film Festival is in full swing.

It opened last Thursday night.

Nellie Clues will be here.

She made a film called The Dells, a documentary that I'm excited to talk to her about.

She'll be here at 7.20.

It'll be great to meet Nellie.

This will be her first time on Nightlight.

So there you go.

Two great guests for some good conversation on a Monday night, the perfect way to kick off your week.

I have to read a text that I got last week from Chris Casper, who texts the show fairly frequently.

Good guy, by the way, right?

Great guy.

Love, Chris.

Yep.

Yeah.

Last week on Friday, we had a prerecorded show and we use a segment that I had from a previous show with Frank Anderson who founded the website Wisconsinology.com, which is great.

Check it out if you get a chance.

All fun Wisconsin stuff on there.

But Chris was listening and Frank and I were talking about how we both hate lawns.

He thinks they're bad for the environment.

He doesn't like to do, and I don't like it either.

I cut my grass and that's it.

I am putting no extra time into yard work.

It's just not my thing.

So we were having this discussion via prerecord last Friday night.

And Chris texts in, I'm totally in agreement with your guest.

Lawns are the dumbest things ever.

I know this was prerecorded.

I wanted to call in so badly.

I had a new neighbor move into me about five years ago.

I used to giggle my ass off watching him out there trying to de-root dandelions one by one.

knowing full well that they got to his lawn from my lawn.

Leaving the dandelion, leave Chris emphatically says, leave the dandelions alone.

We deal with them for like three weeks a year.

The bees love them.

I think they're beautiful.

He has stopped fighting that losing battle.

I am not going to dump poison on my own lawn to prevent a beautiful flower from allowing the bees to help pollinate everything.

I can't help but think that mowing the lawn is one of the biggest wastes of the

precious few hours us old guys have on this shiny blue rock floating through space.

He's getting very poetic here.

Chris continues saying, that's time I could spend in the pool laughing and giggling with my grandkids, smoking a pork shoulder for some delicious carnitas.

Taking a porch nap.

Taking a pool nap.

Pool nap sounds dangerous.

Taking a couch nap.

Taking a bedroom nap.

Pretty much anything other than dealing with my stupid, stupid, stupid lawn.

Wow.

Talk about hitting a nerve.

Passionate.

Yes.

About napping and his hatred for lawns.

Sounds like Chris's nap just about everywhere.

Todd Michaels

Program director of Civic Media.

I think you've got a weekend show right there.

Just put a microphone in front of Chris and let him go.

Pete Schwabba

Absolutely.

Here was a cool thing too.

When I was in Madison, there was a Starbucks right by my hotel.

And I've complained quite a bit on this show over several months now about the tip feature.

I hate when they ask you to tip and they're not leaving the counter.

They want you to tip and then you tip.

and you feel like an idiot because you got to go over and wipe off your own table to sit down.

Like not only are they not waiting on you, they're not even keeping the establishment clean.

Starbucks too, multi-billion company, pay your employees.

Don't make them shake customers down for money.

It's irritating.

Well, there's a Starbucks right by my hotel where I stayed in Madison and they click the no thank you for you before they hand you the thing to put your credit card in.

What?

Yes, and it happened two different employees.

I went there two separate days and they both did it.

So that's obviously Some kind of store policy and it made me want to tip them Wow crazy.

Yes.

It was a very nice little thing, you know, I once in a while I tip because I feel bad, but I Don't know.

I thought that was kind of cool.

I liked it.

I saw a couple great movies over the weekend.

We can get into that folks I don't know if you've seen these films but drop

The Accountant 2, the new Ben Affleck film.

So we'll talk about those a little bit in the next segment, and then, oh my God, I gotta do the question of the night time.

Are we ready for that?

Yeah, I think so.

Do we have that kind of clout?

Todd Michaels

I

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think we're ready to go.

All right, let's do the question of the night.

Todd Michaels

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Question.

Question.

Pete Schwabba

Who is your favorite First Lady?

It's National First Lady Day.

I didn't know it was.

Where else would I've gotten there?

I'm almost sure it is.

Hold on.

I didn't write that on the sheet last night.

No, I'm sorry, Saturday was National First Lady Day.

Gotcha, okay.

And I thought that would make a cool question.

So I saw that.

That's what I do, Todd.

I comb the weekends.

I don't just, I don't mail it in and say, well, if it happens on the weekend, I don't cover it.

Right.

I break stories here.

That's what we do here at Night Light.

So that's tonight's question, folks.

Who is your favorite first lady?

You've got like, how many presents have we had?

47.

So you've got 47 first ladies to choose from.

46, actually.

46.

Right.

Because President Tubby's been in there twice.

So, okay.

So we've got, you've got a lot of first ladies to choose from.

Let us know.

Texas, 855-752-4842.

855-755 Civic.

You can text us on the stream if you're watching on YouTube or Facebook.

or Twitter X, whatever you want to call it, or if you're listening on the app, that's very easy to use too.

If you don't have the app, shame on you.

Get the Civic Media app.

You get to take all of your favorite shows with you wherever you go.

So we'll do some movie talk.

We'll read some texts.

I'd probably have a spooky haunted question for Todd at some point tonight.

All right, I'm ready for that.

So stand your toes, buddy.

I will.

Live Shriver.

That's who you look like.

Is that who it is?

Todd Michaels

Yes.

Somebody else said

Pete Schwabba

that.

Todd Michaels

Totally.

Pete Schwabba

You look like Ray Donovan.

Todd Michaels

I don't know.

I'd have to look both those up.

I have no idea.

He's a badass.

Okay, then that's me.

I'm a badass.

Pete Schwabba

Todd Michaels sitting in for Conrad.

Having fun here on Nightlight tonight.

We're coming right back.

It's Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio

Todd Michaels

Network.

Peach Wawa

This is Nightlight with Peach Wawa.

I am Peach Wawa, your loyal host for this evening's program.

And riding shotgun tonight is Todd Michaels, producer of the Minor and the Mayor show here on WGBW and WISS, who also does a bunch of other stuff for Civic Media.

Good to have you here, Todd.

Todd Michaels

Thanks, man.

Peach Wawa

Really, it's fun.

I look forward to these times.

I mean, because you're kind of my boss, which also puts the pressure on.

Not really.

Well, you know what?

You've scolded me enough so

Todd Michaels

that I

Peach Wawa

feel like you should be.

Our question of the night, folks, is who is your favorite First Lady?

Saturday was National First Lady's Day.

I think I have to go.

I'll start.

I think I have to go with Abigail Adams.

Really?

No.

I'm gonna say why.

I realize.

The answers will be limited, like from either, you know, Lady Bird had a film made, Eleanor Roosevelt has done a lot, like, I know we'll go back a ways, but I don't think anyone's going back into the 1800s, but hey, you're dying your dance floor, folks.

Let me know who your favorite First Lady is.

I think of, I think of, I kind of, when I was younger, had a crush on two First Ladies, and it was Betty Ford.

Okay.

And Rosalind Carter, right?

Todd Michaels

Yes.

Peach Wawa

Yeah.

And they both had issues with substance abuse.

Maybe

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that's what drew you in, you think?

Peach Wawa

You like the bad girl?

I like the hot messes or something.

At least she didn't say Barbara Bush.

Well, not, you know, she seems like a fine lady.

I don't have a crush on her, certainly.

Todd Michaels

She kind of always reminded me of the Quaker Oats guy.

Just a little bit.

The Quaker Oats

Peach Wawa

guy.

Todd Michaels

I mean,

Peach Wawa

yeah, well, you know, the guy that had the Quaker Oats,

Todd Michaels

she

Peach Wawa

kind of had that look.

Yeah, yeah.

Now I see that the way, and I love when Saturday Night Live did the thing with, you must be proud of your son.

Yes.

And you know, I'll say this, you know, as far as I think a lot of right wing men have a serious crush on Mrs. Trump.

Oh, yeah.

Melania, Melania.

Melania?

Melania.

Yep.

Because when I was here, I got sound bites and I interviewed a lot of Trump followers here.

outside right outside here in Green Bay about a year ago longer than a year ago now and a lot of them said they liked Trump so much because of his wife they admired him for marrying what they thought was a beautiful woman and they liked the things she did okay but yeah there was there were adamant about that so i think she's very popular with the segment of the voters i think uh michelle obama certainly has done a ton

of stuff with healthy lunches, and she was very out there.

Hillary Clinton was like a co-president.

You've got Barbara Bush, like we mentioned.

Nancy Reagan.

I think I gotta go.

Overall, I'll probably just say Jackie.

Jackie

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Kennedy.

Oh, that's a good one.

Peach Wawa

That's a good one.

He had sympathy for her, and she was beautiful and a nice person.

What about you?

Where you weigh in on this?

Mine goes way back,

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and it really has to do more with the name, but Mary Todd.

Mary Todd, yeah, that would be mine, right?

They're just because of the name.

Mary Todd.

Yep.

Peach Wawa

Mary Todd.

She went through a lot, right?

Oh my God.

She went through a lot.

You know, I should have, I should have honed up on all that because they had some issues, didn't they?

The Lincolns?

Did they?

I think so.

He was a tiger in the sack.

I've heard that.

He wore the top hat, nothing else.

But like, I think, I think she had mental health problems and he obviously had issues.

going on in the country.

I mean, it sounds like it was very contentious time.

Yeah.

Meritally.

Gotcha.

Based on if I'm remembering this correctly, but I could see

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that.

I knew she was not a big fan of the beard.

And really?

I'm just making that up.

I just figured.

Peach Wawa

Mary Todd, Michael's Lincoln.

That's right.

Well, I could see that.

All right, so that's our question of the night.

Chime in, folks.

Be part of the show.

I will read your text on the radio.

That's exciting.

Do we have a phone call?

We

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do.

Who's on the phone?

Olly from the Northwoods

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is on.

Oh, Olly.

It's about time, Olly.

We haven't heard from you in a couple of weeks now.

How you doing?

Olly from the Northwoods (caller)

Well, I'm doing good, but you have me so confused.

Todd Michaels

Uh-oh.

Olly from the Northwoods (caller)

I thought this was going to be about good things, but I don't think that overall the way a woman looks

uh... make her a great uh... president's wife well i totally agree with you i don't go for looks uh... uh... i go for what they've done to uh... help the country so i think uh... rosslyn carter uh... was who she was she wasn't pretentious uh... she stood by jimmy and uh... in all his endeavors uh...

as far as habitat for humanity and going over to Africa and stuff.

So she definitely has my vote.

Todd Michaels

That's a great choice.

Peach Wawa

What a

Todd Michaels

love story there,

Peach Wawa

right?

Those two?

Right.

Yeah.

Cause she died.

She lived to be like 99 as well.

No, I love her and that's a great point.

And we were just having some fun with the looks thing, Ollie.

I think, you know, personally, I'm very vain, but I think it's more

Olly from the Northwoods (caller)

about what people

Peach Wawa

have underneath and in their

Olly from the Northwoods (caller)

heart.

Well, I'll tell you what, when you get to be a president's wife, we'll vote for you.

Peach Wawa

Hey, I still have my fingers crossed.

Olly from the Northwoods (caller)

The right guy comes along.

I

Peach Wawa

will hitch my way into his star.

Believe

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me.

Always a bridesmaid, never a bride.

Right over there,

Peach Wawa

you know?

Thanks so much, Ali.

Have a great night.

Olly from the Northwoods (caller)

All righty, bye-bye.

Peach Wawa

So that's a good, I mean, that's a great call.

We were just having fun, but she makes a great point.

Brian in Green Bay says, reading while listening is a very effective approach.

It is like a subtitle movie without pictures.

I don't know if that was meant for us, Todd.

I'm not sure.

If it does, I need context, Brian.

I like that though.

But this new clock seems like it goes by a lot faster.

I've read one text and taken one phone call.

Do I yak that much?

A little bit.

Brian from Milwaukee says, Michelle Obama, hands down 100%.

Yeah, she's up there.

She's maybe tied for first.

I like Jackie, but.

Todd Michaels

Yeah, I like Michelle.

Peach Wawa

A lot.

Michelle's

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phenomenal.

Smart, very bright.

Peach Wawa

Unbelievably so.

Oh, that's you, never mind.

Monica from Mount Horrib says,

Backpack of bad intentions was a better alliteration.

Pocket is just peculiar.

Just kidding.

She says the movie Sinners is also peculiar.

It would like your impression.

Gotta be Michelle Obama guessing she's gonna win the poll tonight.

You're probably right about that, Monica, if this is any indication so far.

Yeah, I have not seen Sinners.

Have you, Todd?

I have not.

I have not.

The drop-off was only 6% from week one.

People love that movie.

It's a vampire movie.

It's supposed to be great.

Todd Michaels

I've heard really good things about it.

Me too.

Peach Wawa

So keep those texts coming, folks.

We will read them on the radio.

Coming up in just a few minutes after Civic Media's news team keeps you informed is our pal Zane Lamprey.

He's coming to Wisconsin.

We're going to hear all about it after this.

It's Pete Schwabba in Nightlight.

Todd Michael's riding shotgun tonight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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you

Pete Schwaba

Literally Todd I sit at home on the weekends because I hate lawns.

I don't know what to do with myself I cannot wait to get back here and start yakking

Zane Lamprey

You're good

Pete Schwaba

at it.

That's why I like to talk.

Good to have you with me tonight, buddy.

Welcome back folks.

This is nightlight.

I am peach wabba Listening on the stream PJ says the best first lady of my generation is Michelle Obama.

That's like three or four already

for Michelle.

Craig Anthony Kinnit also listening on the stream says Eleanor Roosevelt was supposed to be a heck of a pistol, quite an influence from what I understand.

Michelle Obama is probably the modern favorite, very strong lady.

All right, keep those texts coming.

We'll get to your actual texts on the phone lines.

We'll get to those two in a little while.

Nellie Clues will be here at 720 talking about her film, The Dells, which you can see at the Milwaukee Film Festival.

tomorrow night and then again next week.

So we'll talk to Nellie coming up right now.

It's my pleasure to welcome back to Nightlight.

This guy was on the show a few months ago.

He is one of the hardest working men in show business.

And he's also very funny.

You've seen him on TV, on various TV shows, which we will talk about.

And he loves to drink and eat and talk about it and be funny about it.

Zane Lampery joins us now.

Hey, buddy.

How are you?

I'm well.

Did I cover everything?

Zane Lamprey

You left out underwear model, but we can get to that at

Pete Schwaba

some point.

No, I left that

Zane Lamprey

out on purpose.

Here's the thing, Pete.

Would it hurt if you just say, Andy's handsome?

You know, does that hurt?

You know what?

I know it's going to get upset at it, you know what I mean?

And he's handsome.

Welcome to Zane Lamprey.

Pete Schwaba

OK, here's what I'll say about that.

First of all, you are handsome, but.

You have the triumvirate.

You're handsome with no facial hair.

You've got the sole patch and the mustache in one picture.

You look dynamite.

You're covering all the bases.

It's a little intimidating.

I'm not going to lie.

Zane Lamprey

Well done.

Well done, brother.

I appreciate that.

I don't know if that was easy for you, but it felt effortless.

All right, ladies and gentlemen, Zane Lambert.

Thanks for being here.

Were you not having a conversation last time about how you thought I looked a little angry in my poster?

Oh, that kind of sounds

Pete Schwaba

familiar.

Zane Lamprey

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so, and I, to be honest with you, I took that to heart.

I was like, you know what?

I don't get that kind of, I don't get that kind of feedback.

And so I was like, wait, this is actually, that's true.

And so I was kind of just in my poster, you know, for my standup shows, I just was doing, I just had kind of a look on my face.

I was holding a beer.

And I was like, no, no, no, I got to, I got to completely change this.

And so you, you could take credit for this.

So I don't know if you've seen my new poster at ZaneLampry.com, but it's me smiling, holding a puppy.

So

Pete Schwaba

yeah, that's because of you.

I think I said probably you look like a badass or that.

your poster or the picture was different than your stand-up, because you're like incredibly likable and funny, and maybe the energy didn't match.

I don't know, but that kind of sounds

Zane Lamprey

familiar.

You

Pete Schwaba

said I looked like I was mean to horses.

I don't

Zane Lamprey

even know what that meant.

You felt pretty adamant

Pete Schwaba

about it.

I think you know.

No, this new one is great though.

You do look like about the happiest guy in the world.

So,

Zane Lamprey

well

Pete Schwaba

done and happy to be a part of your fame.

Make the check out to Pete Schwabba with an S.

Well, it's going to be a bill, but that's okay.

Yeah, that's

Zane Lamprey

what you call

Pete Schwaba

it.

Because you had to do some work there.

Yeah, of course.

Yeah, that's true.

It's great to have you back on the show, Zane.

How are you doing?

What's going on?

Zane Lamprey

I've been doing this tour after coming out of COVID, and I was reaching out to all the comedy clubs in early 2021.

and the theaters, and none of them had any plan to open that year.

And I can't, you know, I have to make my plans for shows months in advance.

And so, because they weren't opening, I reached out to all the breweries, a lot of them I have friends at, and we decided to do my stand-up tour exclusively at breweries.

And we kind of found it pretty interesting niche.

And so tonight, I'm in, gosh, where am I?

Lublin, Colorado.

And I'm doing show number, brewery show number 500 and four.

Oh my gosh.

And, you know, we come back to a few breweries, you know, but we probably have done at least 300 unique breweries tonight.

We're at Loveland L-Works, which is a brewery we haven't performed yet.

And it's going great.

It's going great.

I've done at this every, what I'll do is I'll go in and do my tour.

And I think an ambulance is going to drive by so you know that I'm actually outside.

Um, we have a

Pete Schwaba

fire truck right outside our windows.

So I don't know.

Zane Lamprey

Maybe

Pete Schwaba

there's some

Zane Lamprey

kind

Pete Schwaba

of wormhole here or something.

I don't know,

Zane Lamprey

but it could be, it could be the same one.

It might drive through to yours.

We'll know.

Um, so yeah, I, I do, um, I'll do my, my standup tour.

Yeah, that's fine.

There's no cars anywhere.

There's no need to bring those sirens on.

Good.

Well done.

Something's happening somewhere.

It's okay.

Um,

And so I'll do my stand up for a year, and I'll do 140 shows.

And then I lock down that hour, and then I go record my special for Amazon Prime.

So far, I've done three of those specials.

And right now, I'm gearing up to shoot the next one.

Pete Schwaba

That is really impressive.

I don't even know.

I'm kind of trying to figure out where I should start here, because I'm kind of fascinated by

like your specials.

How long does it take you?

Are the specials typically like 45 minutes, Zane?

And if so,

Zane Lamprey

how long does it take you to

Pete Schwaba

write that much material and rehearse it so that you're ready to do a new special?

Zane Lamprey

So here's how I come out of a special.

So let's say I record a special last year and then I'm on tour a week later.

I'm doing that set, the same set that I did from the special.

But then, then what I'm trying to do is every two weeks, like say my set, my set is made up of like 10 segments, 10 bits basically.

And so I'll, I'll remove one of those.

And what you're supposed to do is remove the best stuff that makes you, that gives you the incentive to work hard to replace them.

And so within like, you know, 10, two week periods, I have replaced my entire set.

You don't want to do it right away.

And I made the mistake one time of doing it right away, going out there with a completely new set.

And it was just like, you know, that's just not how it works.

You gotta repeat these and fine tune it every night.

So I'll do 140 shows of the hour.

And after probably a hundred of them, I'm feeling really good about it.

And then you get to dial into like, you know, you'll dial into like, as you know, like the act out.

And the voices, you'll get comfortable enough with a bit that you'll start to really like figure out what can I do to make this more exciting?

And that's kind of what the last 40 shows are for.

That's really cool.

And then you repeat it and do it again.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, you can check out Zane's stand-up specials on Amazon Prime.

So check those out.

And then maybe I want to go see him live.

He's certainly out there.

Before we get into your dates, buddy, tell me how did you get started in stand-up and how long have you been at this?

Zane Lamprey

That's a great question.

Um, by the way, now can you hear the train?

I want to hear one of those like, uh, this place in Loveland, you know,

Pete Schwaba

I want to hear one of those British sirens.

Zane Lamprey

Yeah.

Exactly.

Where is he?

Um, so sorry.

What was that?

Ask me that question again.

How long have you been doing this?

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

And how did you start and, uh, how long have

Zane Lamprey

you been at it?

So I, I, I'll give a roundabout answer.

I just turned in my, my book.

to my publisher that I've been working on for like three years, which is behind the scenes stuff from my shows, my TV shows.

And they've already ordered my next book before that one even comes out, which is about a guy who starts to do stand up at age 50, because that's basically what I did.

I did do some like 10 years ago when I was doing one of my shows, but I never really dove into it like with both feet.

And so I really did that when I turned 49.

Wow.

And so now I'm 53.

I've been doing it for four years.

I've always done comedy.

I've always been a comedic host and I've hosted things and I've written for TV shows and stuff.

So it's not like I'm coming in at a left field.

But I am, you know, I mean, I'm kind of new to the game where people are like, I'll go see him because I've seen his TV shows.

I don't know if he's going to be any good.

everything that I do, I do to win.

And I'm very competent that my shows are crushing it.

Where are you based out of?

Pete Schwaba

Well, we broadcast statewide in Wisconsin.

We typically air from Green Bay.

So yeah, downtown Green Bay at City Deck Landing.

So, but you know.

Yeah, so I know you're coming this way, but that's like a rocket trajectory, Zane.

I mean, even though you say you wrote, to be on that kind of a path,

with that pace.

It's pretty impressive.

So good for you, but that's insane.

How many cocktails?

Zane Lamprey

It is insane.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

My guest is Zane Lampery.

You can see him.

He's coming to Wisconsin.

We're going to get to that next.

You can see his TV shows, Drinking Made Easy, Chug, Have Fork, Will Travel, and Three Sheets.

Although earlier today, Zane, I saw it said Four Sheets.

So did you add a sheet or are you guys back

Zane Lamprey

and

Pete Schwaba

forth on what to...

Zane Lamprey

No, we did.

We did.

Yeah, there was a...

There was a short-lived TV network called DrinkTV, and they wanted to revive the Three Sheets brand, but couldn't get the name Three Sheets.

So we decided, let's turn it up a notch and make it Four Sheets.

So we shot, I think, six or eight episodes of that, and those will actually be on Amazon Prime, I think later this month.

Pete Schwaba

That's really cool.

So let's talk about, we're gonna get into all your TV shows, but tell us where people can see you live.

We just talked about the specials.

You're coming to Wisconsin, where are you playing and how can people get tickets?

Zane Lamprey

So they can get tickets at ZaneLampere.com.

I'll be on May 9th.

It's Friday.

I'll be in Milwaukee and the brewery there is Pilot Project.

I'll be at Kenosha.

Now, Kenosha Comedy Club is like my one exception of the year that I do a show there because

It's a wonderful couple that owns the club.

And I'll keep coming back because you guys are amazing.

So that's on May 10th.

And then I'm in Sheboygan at Three Sheeps Brewing on May 11th.

And then Madison on May 12th.

And then on May 13th, Peterburg, which I don't know where that

Pete Schwaba

is.

It's north of Milwaukee.

The

Zane Lamprey

important thing is all of

Pete Schwaba

those cities know how to put away their alcohol.

So I think you're going to do just fine.

Zane Lamprey

Yeah, I think as a state you guys you guys have a reputation of that

Pete Schwaba

well, let's talk about that because you do a lot of You do a lot of material based on drinking does it go over better in states that?

Stereotypically do drink more I mean Wisconsin every year the list comes out and Todd you can back me up on this of the top 20 drinking cities in America, Wisconsin has like 17 of

Zane Lamprey

right and

Pete Schwaba

sometimes they have to combine cities So we have like the top 40 of the top 20

Zane Lamprey

um... it that funny i mean kind of there there's there's so many states that really can claim that i don't know if that's like is that is that an opinion thing or that based on like is that is that data-driven i don't even know where that those things come from it's because how could you how could you not like throwing um... you know new warlands for example of the city and um... you know i think that frankly any any city any city that football team too

Pete Schwaba

I think they they event drink.

We just drink.

Zane Lamprey

We drink and

Pete Schwaba

we create events as we drink.

No, it's I don't know

Zane Lamprey

what the science

Pete Schwaba

is behind it.

But every time, you know, whether it's Forbes or Business Insider, all these polls come out.

And to me personally, I haven't had a drink in two and a half years.

I think it's a little weird.

But people like act like it's a vote of it's a badge of honor somehow, you know.

Zane Lamprey

Oh, yeah.

Of course.

Of course.

That's the drinkers, right?

Yeah.

And it's the easiest thing in the world to do.

Pete Schwaba

It's not like you're climbing a mountain.

You're you're popping a

Zane Lamprey

beer.

and drinking it.

Well if it's easy Pete I'll tell you you're doing it wrong okay.

It's a challenge or you know people can turn it into one.

Exactly.

Now by the way now in the show we have a dog barking because I'm petting a cat.

I want to kind of keep

Keep the dialogue, the picture of what's happening right now as I walk through.

Tell me

Pete Schwaba

when the cock fights start and I want to

Zane Lamprey

put money on the.

I think it's this next intersection I'm coming to.

Yeah.

The birds are next.

Yeah.

It's parent fights.

It's

Pete Schwaba

different.

Zane, we got to do a very quick thing.

We'll come back, figure out what's going on there in the background and just keep us posted.

But let's talk about your TV shows and

Zane Lamprey

some

Pete Schwaba

more drinking and eating because that's what you know, my friend.

Zane Lamprey

Zane is here.

Pete Schwaba

We'll be back really after this very.

short break.

Don't go anywhere.

This is Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Pete Schwab (host)

I am Pete Schwab, and this is Night Light.

Great to have you with me on this Monday night.

Our question of the night, in honor of First Lady's Day, which happened over the weekend, who is your favorite First Lady?

Let me know.

Send us a text message, and we'll read it on the radio.

And we'll have some fun with that.

I'm going to talk about some movies I saw coming up over the weekend.

Right now, we have Zane Lamprey with us.

He is in Colorado, and there's all kinds of stuff happening around him.

He probably just stumbled onto a riot or something.

I don't know.

But Zane, it's great to have you on the show.

How many cocktails have you had since you were last here?

Zane Lamprey (interviewee)

You know what?

The answer is probably not an impressive amount.

The number of beers probably would be.

Pete Schwab (host)

Oh,

Zane Lamprey (interviewee)

there you go.

Since I talked to you probably a year ago, I do 140 shows a year and I'm having two to three beers per night.

That's around 500.

Pete Schwab (host)

That's pretty

Zane Lamprey (interviewee)

good.

Pete Schwab (host)

But so you drink mostly on camera.

It's for the shows.

I would imagine you can't keep up that pace when the cameras aren't

Zane Lamprey (interviewee)

rolling.

Well, I mean, you know, when I was doing the show or any of the shows I've done, it was a lot.

You know what I mean?

Like it was it was a lot.

And you know, you go up and shoot at a location and then you probably have two to three locations per day.

And you can't walk in there like thinking, you know, I'm not going to drink today because that was my job.

Um, so when I was doing the shows, yeah, that was, I think, you know, and even when I wasn't doing them, we were still out having fun.

So I think there was a lot being concerned back then, but right now, you know, doing my standup, I have a rule that I only drink on stage, which is still funny for me for a year.

Yeah.

So I'll have, I'll have, you know, one and a half to two and a half, three beers.

during the show, as I'm telling stories, you know, or do my bits on stage.

But then when I'm off, I'm, you know, I drink enough on the one stage.

Pete Schwab (host)

I think, all right, last time you were here, I'm remembering you said something about Mark Cuban.

I think you said you reached out to him and it was surprisingly easy to get ahold of him.

And you didn't give out his email, but you said, I think if you use your imagination, he's not a hard guy to track down.

And I, you know, so I'm going through my head what it could be, but he hasn't responded to me yet.

But how do you, is he an executive producer on one of your shows?

Is it drinking made easy?

Is that the one he is part of?

Zane Lamprey (interviewee)

Yes, I'll give you the story.

I did a show called Three Sheets where I traveled around the world drinking, and that was on a channel called Mojo HD.

And that, the show was doing great, but the network was having a difficult time competing.

And so after four seasons, actually after airing,

three seasons we shot a four-season which didn't get a chance to air because they shut the network down

Pete Schwab (host)

and i

Zane Lamprey (interviewee)

was actually kind of excited because who's heard of of of a channel called mojo hd i knew that people over travel channel and and some of the other food network some of the you know spike any of those guys were interested in and picking up the show and so i thought hey this is a great thing for me i could go and be on a bigger bigger network

but you know after a few weeks those calls never came in i mean the owners and of the network they didn't have to tell me what was going on but they did keep me updated and i like yeah we don't have a buyer after about a month and so i said you know what i mean this is my my inner monologue i was like i'm gonna throw a safe three sheets rally because i think people aren't aware that it's for sale and so i had more i'd want in in an ally which was a with a bar crawl we went from

Uh, but marching past all the network offices so they could be, you know, lost with our signs and chanting and stuff like that.

And when I did it in, in LA, I think about 600 people showed up.

Pete Schwab (host)

And then

Zane Lamprey (interviewee)

when I went to, to New York, I was on my way to the, to the bar and, and, uh, the first bar we were meeting at and I called my buddy, Steve, who lived there and he was like, you know, went, went ahead of us.

And I called him and I said, are there people there?

And he's like, yeah, I said, how many?

He's like, all of them.

So.

That there was about a thousand people that showed up

Pete Schwab (host)

in marketing

Zane Lamprey (interviewee)

Manhattan.

And at the very last location, Steve comes running upstairs.

We're at a four story Irish pub.

And Steve came running upstairs to me and he said, Hey, Mark Cuban downstairs.

He wants to buy the show.

I was like, Mark Cuban is not on our upgrow.

Let's be very clear.

But I'll go down and I'll call BS on whoever the guy is who is saying that he's Mark Cuban.

And so I went down and it was Mark Cuban.

And

Pete Schwab (host)

he said, I want to

Zane Lamprey (interviewee)

buy the show.

And I said,

Pete Schwab (host)

why

Zane Lamprey (interviewee)

haven't you?

You can clearly afford it.

He said, because they, they're selling like five, a bundle of five shows.

I don't want those.

I just want three sheets.

And so that ended up going on to travel channel and five living network, whatever.

And then when my contract expired, the date expired, I reached out to Mark and said, Hey, let's make a domestic version of the show called drinking made easy and do it for your network, which was called HD net at the time.

Now it's called access TV.

And he's like, yeah, let's do it.

And so that was it.

So I went out and did 24 episodes, plus a one-hour stand-up special.

I was shooting the TV show during the day, and I was doing my stand-up at theaters across the country at night.

It was with two tour buses.

It was just, it was, it was mayhem.

Pete Schwab (host)

Oh, that sounds like a blast.

You

Zane Lamprey (interviewee)

guys got

Pete Schwab (host)

to come to

Zane Lamprey (interviewee)

Green Bay.

It was a blast.

Look, I had my girlfriend, who's now my wife.

She was one of the producers, and she was with us.

My best friend Steve was with us, and then my crew, they're all friends and friends, family, whatever.

We just had so much fun.

It was like, I got Mark Cuban to write me a check for a million dollars to spend the summer on two tour buses going around the country and drinking at the coolest places, and then doing stand-up at night.

It was a pretty good deal.

Pete Schwab (host)

Just filming your life, basically.

That sounds like a great, I love the concept.

It was, yeah.

Yeah, I was going to say, so folks, Zane Lamprey, he's coming here to Wisconsin.

Check out Zane Lamprey, ZaneLamprey.com.

You can find out where he'll be and if you want tickets.

Do you want to talk a little bit about some of these other shows you're doing?

I mean, you're a busy guy.

Zane Lamprey (interviewee)

Yeah, like, oh, we mean the shows that I've done.

Well, yeah,

Pete Schwab (host)

you've got Have Fork Will Travel.

I love that.

Like, you seem really locked in on the...

booze and food.

Hey, Zane, actually, we have to do a break in just a minute.

Can we keep you for a few more minutes on the other side of the news?

Yeah, keep me.

All right, Fint.

Last time you were walking, are you walking again?

I sure am.

Dude.

By the way, that day.

that

Zane Lamprey (interviewee)

I was doing, I got 50,000 steps because I had three radio interviews to do it.

I just kept walking.

So yeah, 19 miles.

You're not

Pete Schwab (host)

even short of breath.

That's impressive.

All right.

Zane's going to stick around.

Here's the news.

We'll be back in just a few minutes and we will tell you all about Have Fork Will Travel.

This is Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Pete Schwabba (host)

Welcome back.

Tonight, ladies and gentlemen, so great to have you with me on this Monday, this windy Monday night in the state of Wisconsin.

Hope you're having a great day.

We have a great question tonight, and it is who is your favorite first lady?

So text us, let us know what you're thinking.

So far, Michelle Obama is in the lead, I would say handsomely, but I will read your texts in just a few minutes.

We'll play some catch up there.

Nellie Clues will be here at 7.20.

She's a filmmaker and a director whose film The Dells will screen at the Milwaukee Film Festival tomorrow night and then again next week.

We've been having some fun with the Milwaukee Film Festival guests and all kinds of great stuff going on.

I'm going to talk about the Accountant 2 which I saw over the weekend and

drop.

But right now, we have a few minutes left with our pal Zayn Lamprey, who is coming to Wisconsin.

You can find out his dates at ZaynLamprey.com, where he will be playing in our state.

We're going to talk a little bit about his TV shows right now.

He's got all these TV shows on.

He's a very busy guy.

Zayn, I have to get this out of the way.

I saw recently that you tasted Bull's Testicles.

Where did you get this information from?

On the interwebs.

The dark web, apparently.

I don't know

Zane Lamprey (guest)

what's going

Pete Schwabba (host)

on.

Zane Lamprey (guest)

Yeah, for sure I have.

Yeah, those are, you know, Rocky Mountain Noisters, for sure.

Bull testicles.

I have them, you know, sliced and breaded and fried, not like whole.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Do they melt

Zane Lamprey (guest)

your

Pete Schwabba (host)

mouth or is it like...

just are they kind

Zane Lamprey (guest)

of tough they're horrible they're just like they're like they're like the worst chicken nuggets they're just like I mean it's I think it's a right of passage and I think a lot of people are really going out there to have these you know for the flavor they're very gamey and and nasty but but you know look so doing my my drinking shows doing my food shows

sometimes you have to have to eat things for the sake of the show and that was definitely one of those things.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Take one for the team, sure.

Yeah,

Zane Lamprey (guest)

exactly.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I'm proud of myself for not making a tea bagging joke there.

Zane Lamprey (guest)

So I wasn't sure the latitude I would get, but yeah, continue.

It's best that we did it.

Pete Schwabba (host)

So tell us about Have Fork Will Travel.

This looks like a really cool show and you really get into some great food talk too.

I mean, you got it all covered.

Food, drinks, it's just all fantastic

Zane Lamprey (guest)

stuff.

I did, but I don't want to burst this bubble that you've made up.

But these are all things from a time when those kinds of shows

were the staple of many of these networks, travel, food, cooking, a fine living network.

But that's just not the way that it is anymore.

I had a food network, a travel show for Food Network, where I traveled around the world trying different foods.

I did the same thing for drinks.

But there's just not any network that's doing that kind of stuff anymore.

And it's really like a product of YouTube.

where people can kind of go out and keep people their entertainment together or go down the the rabbit hole with with social media and so you know though those shows just aren't it's just aren't really happening and i yeah i did a bunch i did i did a bunch for i did uh... like six or seven different series uh... and had a great time i think i i struck while the iron was hot but now it's it's kind of moved on you know travel channel all they do is like paranormal stuff right now they don't even do travel it's just a weird thing

That is really, you know, and food, food network is kind of the only one, but they're, they're like, you know, sticking with their stars and cooking.

I don't know that that's even around anymore.

So yeah, but, but when the time, when, when I, when it was all happening, I was in the mix and I, I had some great shows and I, you know, I think I've eaten and drank in, in 70, 71 countries.

And yeah, I got, I got lucky.

And that's

Pete Schwabba (host)

all of those combined are almost as much as we eat and drink here in Wisconsin.

So

Zane Lamprey (guest)

kudos to

Pete Schwabba (host)

you.

That is correct.

So all right, so you've done the hosting thing.

You've done all that.

You're very busy doing 140 stand updates a year.

What do you prefer?

And where do you see your career going?

Like, do you want your own sitcom?

Are you happy just performing live in front of audiences?

Where are you in five

Zane Lamprey (guest)

years?

I'm never happy, even if I was doing a sitcom.

I would never be.

I wouldn't be.

Not that I'm not happy.

I'm always happy.

I'm never content.

I'm never content.

I never accept the way that things are.

And I think that's the reason I'm able to keep to stay busy is that I'm always trying to figure out what to do.

I know a lot of people

You know, friends that were hosts at the same time as me are now, you know, they're doing different things.

They're not even in entertainment anymore.

So, I mean, look, I'm happy doing these shows, these stand-up shows.

I like doing them at breweries.

Do I prefer that I was doing theaters and stadiums?

Yeah, sure, that would

Announcer

be okay.

I

Zane Lamprey (guest)

wouldn't be upset with that.

And I'm doing 140 shows a year, but I...

Could I cut that in half?

Yeah, that'd be great.

If I was doing bigger ones, I could do less of that.

But I am happy with what I'm doing.

And there's always conversations about bringing those shows back, whether it's the drinking show, the eating shows.

I had a meeting with the guys who created, according to Jim for Jim Belushi, about doing a sitcom.

There's always stuff in the works, but Hollywood work, it moves at a very strange pace.

And when I'm out here doing

My stand-up shows, I can dictate that pace.

I can be the master of my own destiny, which, you know, all the shows that you mentioned and more, they all got canceled.

You know what I mean?

And I was never me who quit doing those shows.

It's just that the networks changed, then the regime changes.

You know, think, think, move it, move it, and now, and I don't have control over that.

So I do like

Pete Schwabba (host)

that.

I do like that.

Yeah.

Zane Lamprey (guest)

No, to be honest with you, I think it was about 15 years ago.

Pete Schwabba (host)

See, I have a black and white TV, so that could be part

Zane Lamprey (guest)

of my

Pete Schwabba (host)

problem.

That does, yeah.

That's really interesting you say that, because anytime I've been on a project that didn't go or got canceled, people, I think it's...

how they treat you on the way out.

It's like, listen, we're either going to bring this back, but we know we definitely want to do something with you.

That means we never want to see you again.

We're never calling go away.

So if it's working

Zane Lamprey (guest)

out

Pete Schwabba (host)

for you, if they bring back your shows, I think you're ahead of the game, buddy.

Zane Lamprey (guest)

Yeah, look, I mean, I've

I did the show three sheets.

That went off the air.

People loved that show so much that Mark Cuban created Drinking Made Easy.

And then that went off the air.

And people liked that so much that we were able to do a show called Chug for Nat Geo.

And then this other network that was called Drink TV brought back the same iteration of a show called Four Sheets.

So I've seen it happen four times.

So I'm very optimistic and open to the idea that it comes back.

But in the meantime, I just, you know, I turned in my book.

I'm writing in my second book.

I'm doing, I'm doing standup.

You know, when I'm, when I'm back home, I'm, I'm very busy.

So, you know, I have a podcast and it's like, yeah, it's, it's good.

I like, I like being the master of my own destiny, but you know, I wouldn't mind selling coming in and, and rocking the boat with something, something bigger.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Absolutely.

Well, listen, if I can take any credit at all.

And I will

Zane Lamprey (guest)

for

Pete Schwabba (host)

the new picture on your website.

It kicks ass.

And you're kicking ass.

So keep up the great work.

And always good to talk to you, buddy.

Come back soon.

And I hope you crush it here in Wisconsin.

If you get near Green Bay, let me know.

And we'll have you in the studio.

It'll be fun.

I will.

Yeah, I will.

Zane Lamprey (guest)

You'll get back on the sauce.

You don't want to hang out with

Pete Schwabba (host)

me.

I'll do my best.

Keep walking, too.

All right,

Zane Lamprey (guest)

man.

Take care,

Pete Schwabba (host)

Zane.

That's Zane Lamprea.

Check out, I would say, check out Have Fork Will Travel, but it's been off the air for 15 years.

That's a guy who kind of prides himself in doing his research.

So we'll have Nellie Clues coming up in just a few minutes, folks, to talk about her documentary, The Dells, which you can see at the Milwaukee Film Festival, which is in full swing.

Let's get to some text.

Our question of the night, it was National First Lady's Day.

Oh, I forgot to ask Zane who his first lady was, but.

Oh, that didn't come out right.

Who his favorite first lady is.

Who is his first lady?

That sounds very terrible.

But that's our question of the night, folks.

Let us know who is your favorite first lady.

And going to the text line here, Anna from Madison says, Hi, Pete and Todd.

My favorite first lady is Michelle Obama.

She's not afraid to say anything.

She's great.

Totally agree.

Anna, outstanding choice, and Michelle is definitely in the lead.

I would say tonight, Christine from Slinger says, in history, Dolly Madison and Eleanor Roosevelt.

In my lifetime, Betty Ford and Michelle Obama.

Dolly Madison,

Announcer

she's going

Pete Schwabba (host)

back to, she must have read a book, right?

I mean,

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just because of the donuts.

I was just gonna say those lovely tasty snacks.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That's gotta be, they named Donis after her.

She had to be worthwhile as a first lady.

And Eleanor Roosevelt, she's a butt kicker too.

That's fantastic.

Thank you, Christine.

Nick from Marshall says, can't pick just one.

I think I would have to say Jill Biden, Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton.

All right, three fine first ladies.

Well done, Nick, thank you.

Tom from New Berlin says, Todd, my ex-wife, she was always president.

Announcer

Is he talking to you?

No, I don't know.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah.

Not sure.

We need a comma in there or something, Tom.

I don't want to misrepresent you, Tom.

Tom is an avid Texter and I love his text.

But I, yeah, I mean, I think he was always president.

Like his wife was the boss, maybe.

Okay.

Give us some clarification.

I didn't know that, but she's, again, not to go back to the word peculiar, but I've heard that she was kind of a peculiar first lady and a peculiar person.

But I love that.

Who doesn't love a sance in the White House?

John from Columbia County, that's the 608, I'm sorry.

He says Barbara Bush was a class act.

I think a lot of people agree with you there, John.

Barbara Bush.

I remember hearing a story about Al Franken on a plane with Barbara Bush.

Well, she says, well, you're a great impressionist, Al, but it's nice that you don't have anything you've noticed about my son, George.

And he goes, no, I have something.

He kind of laughs.

He kind of goes, hey.

She said, well, I don't think that's very accurate

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at all.

Oh my gosh.

I

Pete Schwabba (host)

got into this argument on the plate.

It was great.

Thank you, John, for the text.

Susan from McFarland says, my first ladies would be Michelle Obama.

However, if you know anything about the history of Eleanor Roosevelt, you would

would be certainly, she was an amazing first lady.

Boy, Michelle and Eleanor are kicking butt tonight in her little informal poll on the stream.

Daniel is listening and he says, I second that Michelle Obama.

All right, Michelle Obama's our front runner easily.

Hey, I wanted to ask you about, this is a hell of a segue.

Teach you that in broadcasting

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school,

Pete Schwabba (host)

did they?

Oh yeah, I went to broadcasting school.

Where do you stand on exorcisms, Todd?

Do they work?

Are people actually possessed?

Todd, in his spare time, folks, is a paranormal investigator, a very insightful one, and does great work.

And we've talked numerous times on this show about some of the work he's done.

I love talking to Todd about this stuff.

But there have been movies made.

Where do you stand on those?

Announcer

I actually went and saw an actual...

somebody that actually did exorcisms and actually went to an event where they spoke and they actually showed film and played audio of them doing this.

I don't think everything is a possession, right?

I don't.

But sometimes I do believe in them.

And the one thing that scares me, and this is gonna get kind of deep, but sometimes people who may have mental issues,

Some issues in their life with alcohol and drugs and all that kind of I worry that there might be more there than just Everyday problems, okay, and and I worry that sometimes it's overlooked and maybe there's a little something extra going on there But I do believe in them.

I don't understand why religious

Pete Schwabba (host)

That was my next

Announcer

question.

Yeah, I don't know why it has to be religious in order for it to work But yeah, I do I believe some of that stuff does happen once in a while

Pete Schwabba (host)

Where else, folks, can you hear about a comic who drinks and walks 50,000 steps

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with a dose of exorcism

Pete Schwabba (host)

while he's on the phone with cockfights happening behind him?

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Now, if he was walking and his head was spinning around and he was spinning a pea soup,

Pete Schwabba (host)

then you'd

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have

Pete Schwabba (host)

something.

Oh, that's horrible.

That's the voice of Todd Michael sitting in for Conrad.

We are coming right back with filmmaker Nellie Klucitz, Peach Wabba, and Nightlight.

Nellie Clues (interviewee)

Welcome

Pete Schwabba (host)

back.

This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba.

I am Pete Schwabba, your host.

So outstanding to have you with me on this incredible Monday night here in the state of Wisconsin.

Who is your favorite First Lady?

That is our question of the night.

The Night Light question of the night.

Saturday was National First Ladies' Day, so...

I would say Michelle Obama, wouldn't you say Todd is just way ahead of the pack right now.

Absolutely.

In terms of all around awesomeness.

So we got some Barbara Bush votes.

We got some one for Hillary and Eleanor Roosevelt, I would say, making a good showing.

And I'm the only one that voted for Mary Todd.

Mary Todd.

Nellie Clues (interviewee)

The

Pete Schwabba (host)

only one.

Because you're biased because of your name.

I know.

I said, I actually had a crush on Dolly Madison too.

Oh, those snowballs.

Is that what it was?

The pink pink candy.

You know,

Nellie Clues (interviewee)

I

Pete Schwabba (host)

bought those once just because I was curious.

Yeah.

I'm like, what

Nellie Clues (interviewee)

the hell do those taste like?

And I bought them

Pete Schwabba (host)

and I was like,

Nellie Clues (interviewee)

why the hell did

Pete Schwabba (host)

I do

Nellie Clues (interviewee)

that?

Yeah,

Pete Schwabba (host)

it's terrible.

You know, go, I'm glad I ate that.

Uh, all right.

So now folks, we're going to turn our conversations to, uh, independent film.

This is exciting.

The Milwaukee film festival is in full swing right now is a great film festival.

And joining me now here at nightlight for the first time is the creative talent behind the film, the Dells.

My pleasure to welcome director Nellie Clues.

Hey, Nellie.

Nellie Clues (interviewee)

Hi.

Thank you so much for having me.

Pete Schwabba (host)

This is great.

It's great to have.

Hey, do you have a first lady, a favorite first lady?

Nellie Clues (interviewee)

Uh, I don't, I'm trying to think Michelle Obama is a good one.

I kind of like Lady Bird Johnson, if only for the

Pete Schwabba (host)

name.

Nellie Clues (interviewee)

And she's cool as well.

Pete Schwabba (host)

She's cool, but it is a cool name.

It's hard to... It's like if you had a president named Cobra, that's like the equivalent.

It's kind

Nellie Clues (interviewee)

of a

Pete Schwabba (host)

badass name, right?

Yeah.

Well, it's great to have you.

How are you doing tonight?

Are you excited about your screening coming up?

Nellie Clues (interviewee)

Very, yeah.

I'm so, so excited to share the movie with Wisconsin audiences because it is...

a Wisconsin-centric film and um anyone so far I've showed it to him Wisconsin has a really uh good and interesting take on it you know really yeah

Pete Schwabba (host)

okay well we'll get into that too but first uh before I ask you before we jump into the dels um tell me a little bit about yourself and how did you get to this moment like where did you start out in your career and give us a little background if you would

Nellie Clues (interviewee)

Yeah, so I I've been making films for quite some time now like all in the realm of observational documentaries Nonfiction film is really what I love working on You know you get to kind of have an excuse to be nosy and meet people and see what they're doing and go different places So yeah, I when I started making this film I was based in the Midwest.

I was in Chicago and then in Iowa City Now I'm in

based in New York, and emerging from upstate New York.

And yeah, I've just sort of gradually worked on my own projects.

You know, I tend to work in a pretty sort of small scale way, like myself, doing a lot of the work.

I do collaborate with other people.

But yeah, kind of feeling it out, piecing things together and getting to know a place or a group of people and making it all about it.

Pete Schwabba (host)

So that's kind of interesting.

That's a very caro-wacky and almost approach to, you know, filmmaking.

Are you inspired by different locales, like to tell different stories?

Like, what is your connection to Wisconsin?

Did you have one when you made the Dells or did the story come to you another way?

Nellie Clues (interviewee)

Yeah, I mean, I had been to Wisconsin, you know, living in Chicago, to Milwaukee and Madison and other places.

But, you know,

I had made another film that was about tourism and kind of people going on contemporary, kind of like tourist pilgrimages to Niagara Falls and some other places.

And all my Midwest friends were like, you know where you should check out is Wisconsin Bells, if you didn't grow up going there.

So I went and I just found the place really inspiring because, you know, there's so much happening.

There's so many like visual layers and so much history and so many different people converging on this.

you know technically pretty small place and it's so kind of international um that yeah I was immediately drawn to it and you know I was living not too far away at the time and just kind of made up my business to keep coming back and forth and you know kind of get to know the rhythms of the place some of the people there what was going on.

Pete Schwabba (host)

So all right so your home base right now is New York what what uh what are you working on now?

Nellie Clues (interviewee)

Um, well, I'm working on a lot of screening and distribution stuff for this film, which has been really fun and exciting working on some new projects.

And then I, um, that I'm sort of in the beginning stages of, uh, and then I also do camera work for other people's, uh, other people's projects.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Nice.

I saw too that you lived, you taught film in California at Cal Arts and then also in Iowa.

So did you, have you ever learned anything yourself?

teaching film to others?

Nellie Clues (interviewee)

For sure.

Yeah.

I mean, it's really helpful to have to explain why you're doing something to other people or why you think you should do things a certain way or hear, you know, other options.

But yeah, teaching is super inspirational and, you know, there's lots to be green from just the things that students know or questions they ask.

So I do really like teaching and yeah.

A shadow tall, there's some really wonderful faculty members and teachers at UWM in Milwaukee who are doing a great job there in the film department.

They've got a cool scene, I think.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah, they certainly do.

And I love talking to, and I had to ask you that because I love talking to people who make films, but also actually teach film.

I think that's such a unique and cool existence.

So.

This is my guest, as Nellie clues, her screenings for the Dells, which we'll jump into after the news.

I want to hear all about it.

It's this great story about people coming from all over to work in the Wisconsin Dells.

And we'll get more details on that, but the screenings are April 29th, 6 30 PM at the Oriental Theater, and then May 6th, 3 PM at the Downer Theater.

So two outstanding venues.

Have you been to those theaters yet?

Have you ever seen anything there?

Nellie Clues (interviewee)

I've seen, I know I've seen Oriental Theater, but I have not been, I don't think I've ever went to a film there.

So

Pete Schwabba (host)

it's so beautiful.

It's like majestic.

It's gorgeous.

Are you going to do a Q and A at either venue?

Nellie Clues (interviewee)

I unfortunately can't know.

Yeah.

So I wish I really wish I could be there, but.

All

Pete Schwabba (host)

right, all the more reason that I'm going to pepper you with questions after the news, because we'll do our own little Q&A here.

And we'll jump into the film, The Dells, with its director, Nellie Clues.

She is here over the stream with us.

We'll ask her and hear all about her film, The Dells, which you can check out at the Milwaukee Film Festival.

John, on the text line from Columbia County, the 608, he says, by the way, I make Bernie look conservative.

There's a few of those listeners here at Civic Media.

Thank you, John.

Who's your favorite first lady?

Get in on the fun.

We are coming right back for more with Nelly Clues.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Pete Schwabba (Host)

Welcome back.

That's, that would be the background music for my life.

If I could have that, just follow me places.

Co-host

This one right

Pete Schwabba (Host)

here.

People go, who's this dude coming?

I like this.

Co-host

It's the spinners, right?

Yeah.

I love the spinners.

I'd love to have a score as part of my life, even though it's a song.

Pete Schwabba (Host)

Tomorrow night on Nightlight, Milwaukee Anchorman from CBS 58 and Marinette native son, Mike Strahler will be here in the studio, sitting next to me.

I'm

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so jealous, by the way.

I've known Mike since he worked up here in Green Bay.

Oh, yeah, that's right.

He was on, I think, channel two at the time.

And then he went down to Milwaukee.

Just one of those guys that I've always had a lot of respect for, because I wanted to be a news anchor or a weather guy at one point, you know?

Wow.

So I'm really jealous.

Please get some pictures with him.

Pete Schwabba (Host)

Stop by.

Well, definitely.

Co-host

He's a

Pete Schwabba (Host)

mirror.

I don't like

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him

Pete Schwabba (Host)

that much.

He's a native, a Marinette native son.

I'm a transplant.

So we'll have, he's kind of like my homie.

We'll have that to talk about.

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He's gonna

Pete Schwabba (Host)

be

Co-host

here in

Pete Schwabba (Host)

studio in Green Bay tomorrow night.

So that'll be fun.

And then founder of the Sogo Film Festival, Miles Kristen, what did I say?

Co-host

Why are you laughing?

I just, you and Mike Straylow homies.

Two of the whitest

Pete Schwabba (Host)

guys ever.

Hey, we could be homies.

We could pretend we were more exotic.

Yeah.

Our question of the night, who is your favorite first lady?

Let us know.

We'll read your text on the radio.

But right now it's time to talk movies again.

My guest is Nellie Clues.

She is a filmmaker and her film The Dells is playing at the Milwaukee Film Festival tomorrow night and then again on May 6th at 3 p.m.

But tomorrow night is at 6 30 at the Oriental Theater.

So Nellie is with us now over the stream from New York.

Nellie, it's so great to have you here.

tonight.

Thank you for being with us.

Yeah, my pleasure.

So all right, so tell us about the film.

What is the Dells about?

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

So it's kind of a group portrait of a lot of the international students, the J1 student workers who come to the Dells in the summers and

also at other times of year, but my film focuses on the summer, to work at, you know, the water parks, motels, fast food restaurants, and it's kind of seeing the place through, you know, their sort of experiences to an extent, and kind of seeing what they think of this place and what they get up to, and kind of their experience being kind of fish out of water in a place they've never really been before, most of them.

Pete Schwabba (Host)

What is their experience?

I mean, do they like it?

Is it a favorable experience for the most part?

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

I mean, I obviously can't speak for everyone.

Lots and lots of different students come from different countries, and I only got to know some people.

But I think it's a mixed bag.

I think it's, on the one hand, amazing to go to a new place and meet friends from all over the world.

And it's really novel and exciting.

and you know then there is you know you're working a lot people are working really long because they're working really long hours um and it can be kind of difficult and it can be kind of um not totally what they expected in in that way like there's a sense that it's going to be so kind of glamorous and you know it's exciting fun summer and I think it is a lot of hard work and they do face a lot of challenges in that way

Pete Schwabba (Host)

that's interesting um where did this idea come from you said you

People told you about the Dells, but this is another level like you're kind of doing a deep dive into that world sort of with these workers How did you like with every documentary filmmaker?

There has to be that moment where you go I'm gonna spend multiple years of my life working on this or a long amount of time whatever it is What was that moment for you?

And what was your inspiration for making the film?

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

I think what I

Excuse me.

I think when I visited for the first time to kind of check out the place and see if there was possibility there, I just saw so many of these students kind of walking around and just immediately thought that that would be something that could sustain, could sustain a film and could sustain my interests.

And then, you know, not just those students and their social world, but, you know, Wisconsin Bells is a place that I just find, you know, it's kind of designed to

generate novelty and generate um kind of like you know excitement and a little bit of escapism and so I did find that for such a small place you know there's a huge density of people coming in um and so it just was always generating new possibilities so every time I would go I would meet new people um catch up with people I'd already met find out about interesting you know local people and businesses so it just kind of kept giving new possibilities so uh

That was what I liked about it.

Pete Schwabba (Host)

Was it hard?

Did they all want to talk to you or was that a struggle getting people to come on camera and talk?

Like, were they worried about anything or apprehensive?

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

Yeah, I mean, not everybody wants to take part in the film.

And, you know, I was just going to ask and explain a little bit about what I'm doing.

Some people I developed friendships with and spent more time with.

Some people who are in the film, it was just like a quick.

sort of encounter conversation that we had.

I got to know a couple of local taxi drivers who drive people around in like van, little like minivan taxis in the Delz and those guys were both really awesome, really...

kind of welcoming hosts to a lot of the students they're driving around, especially this one taxi driver, this guy Jason who's wonderful, gives a lot of advice.

So that was a useful place and an interesting place to spend time, you know, always getting new people learning about what goes on and what they should do to navigate.

Pete Schwabba (Host)

That's so great.

My guest is Nellie Clues.

Her film, The Dells, is playing at the Milwaukee Film Festival at the Downer Theater on May 6th and at the Oriental tomorrow night at 6.30 p.m.

Have you seen the film with an audience yet?

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

I have.

Pete Schwabba (Host)

I

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

have.

Yeah, it's a mixed bag.

I've gotten some...

Really good responses to the film.

I've sent it to a lot of the students or everyone who's in the film as long as I can, you know, contact them.

Um, so that's been really interesting to hear their responses.

Um, I've shown it, uh, we did like a secret screening before the premiere, like

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I

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

need to

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talk about now,

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

but in Madison at the Wisconsin Film Festival.

And that was really, that was really amazing because, you know, people who, um, have spent a lot of time in the Dells have a different take, like I was saying, and people were really interested in like,

you know, what's your favorite ride?

Like, you know, they just had like a more in-depth, uh, knowledge and they're seeing a place they knew, you know, maybe in a slightly different way.

So that's really fun.

And,

Announcer

you know, and

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

I'm sure there's audiences in Europe who just find it like so novel and strange, like the kind of American kitsch aspect of it.

I

Pete Schwabba (Host)

think it's

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

like...

even more stands out even more to them.

So it's really interesting depending on people's what they're bringing to it, what they get out of it.

Pete Schwabba (Host)

Are you seeing like the response you'd hope to get when you started the project?

Like, is it kind of what you thought it would be or did it evolve into kind of a different project, maybe more comedy or more heartfelt stories or where is it now compared to where when you started out?

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

Yeah, I mean, I think I think it's a I think it's a fun film in that, you know, a lot of young people kind of roaming around.

You know learning There's like quirks of what they're learning about the culture that they didn't already know and you know, there's comedy there I do think it turned out like a little bit more Serious than I expected and in some respects because of what was saying about people kind of having a hard time having to put in a lot of work hours and You know, I also filmed

It's not really super explicit in the film, but I filmed during 2020 and 2021 when there

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was a

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

lot fewer students because of COVID, obviously, it was harder to travel.

So the people that were here, you know, parks were closing down, they were kind of having to scramble to figure out something else, and there's a lot there.

And then, you know, now...

After having made the film, you know, there's a lot in the news about international students getting visas revoked

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pretty

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

arbitrarily and you know, they're they're kind of vulnerable like they come here as guests and You know, I think that was made clear to me when I was making the film in in one way And then now it's kind of come true in a different way.

So it makes me think differently

Pete Schwabba (Host)

Did the Dells, did any of the establishments or hotels or restaurants have any issues with you talking to the employees?

Was it, was it hard to get releases or did you have to go through that process?

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

I mean, I mostly focused on spending time with students who wanted to be in the film, like in off hours when they weren't working.

There's, there's definitely scenes of people working

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at

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

various like hotels and restaurants and things, but, um, you know, the big water parks, like they don't really, why would they really want someone to come around and.

you know come in and bother them with a camera so they were a little less like open um and so mostly it's yeah like um I met some really great business people and got to know a lot of local folks but uh the main meat of what we were filming was sort of off hours hanging out at dorms parties uh in between going to walmart a lot uh and riding around on the taxi yeah

Pete Schwabba (Host)

So what like the people that come over here, the students, what are they hoping?

Do they just want the experience of being in America for a while or are they hoping to end up staying here?

Are they trying to get experience in the service industry?

What kind of people come here?

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

Yeah, it's a mixed bag.

I mean, for the specific program, the summer work travel programs through the State Department, you know, there's lots of different sort of rules and regulations, but.

Basically, you have to be some kind of college or university student, like whether undergraduate or a master's or something.

So people have that in common.

And I think it really varies.

Some people are really curious about America and excited to experience what goes on here.

People want to improve their English.

They want to make new friends.

um, you know, maybe you can make pretty good money if you have like a server job or something like that.

Right.

A little bit less so at these like housekeeping jobs and things.

They really don't pay well.

Um, so, you know, a variety of reasons, but I do think people are united who come, the students that I met were, you know, excited and curious to kind of see, you know, in the U S we kind of export a sense of like, yeah, kind of glamour or like opportunity.

And I think that that really

has worked to a large extent um historically and it is a place that draws people um and then of course they come to one very specific place which is not like a lot of other places in the u.s so they kind of they they get something kind of different but um unique

Pete Schwabba (Host)

what's the uh do they have a or maybe did you find that they have a sense of what did they think of wisconsin like did they like

Being here.

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

Yeah, I mean again super varied it depends, you know, like it depends on your job.

It depends on your housing situation People I talked to a lot of students who are really struck by how beautiful it is here, you know in the nature and all of this and people were very like A lot of people commented to me about how many thunderstorms there are and all the time It's like, you know, it's this constant cycle of thunderstorms in the summer

and you know like it depends like anywhere you go on who you meet you know some people are making great local friends and some people have like a boss who's you know being a jerk to them and so it really you know it's very varied um and but I think

I think a lot of people do develop an affection for the place.

Pete Schwabba (Host)

Okay.

So I always ask people what they come on, what they're watching.

You're a filmmaker, you do docs.

What do you watch on TV when you're not busy planning a project or in the throes of a project?

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

Oh my gosh,

Pete Schwabba (Host)

binge watching anything?

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

I'm not binge watching anything, but

I do sometimes like to, I'm meaning to rewatch the show, like a lot of the show, Cheers.

Not all of it, but I did that a while ago and it kind of just goes down really easy.

And I think it's a great show.

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And I

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

like stuff about groups of friends and like, you know, kind of a hangout show where you don't have to, it's not really about the plot continuing.

The sitcom style kind of is a nice background thing to have.

Pete Schwabba (Host)

I totally agree.

It's funny you say that too, because I always watch.

like I'll pick I'll go through a sitcom when I'm just laying in bed on my phone and I'm on cheers right now and I'm just totally

I mean, I watched it when it first came out, but that show is such a treasure.

So it's funny that you mentioned that.

I'm with you on Cheers.

But hey, thank you so much, Nellie.

It's been great getting to know you.

Good luck with your screenings.

Yeah, thank you

Nellie Clues (Filmmaker)

for having me.

Pete Schwabba (Host)

Absolutely.

Our pleasure.

Good luck.

Break a leg.

All right.

Thanks.

That's Nellie Clues.

Check out the Dells screening tomorrow night at the Oriental at 6.30 and May 6th at the Downer at 3 PM.

When we come back, we'll wrap all this up.

We'll read some texts.

And I'm finally going to tell you about these movies I saw.

Very excited folks.

Don't go anywhere.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

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Pete Schwaba

Welcome back.

We are in the closing moments of this Monday night show.

Ladies and gentlemen, it's been absolutely majestic, spectacular having you be part of the show.

Thank you for all your texts.

Thank you to Nellie Clues for joining me and Zane Lamprey, who is probably still walking.

I

Todd Michaels

would only

Pete Schwaba

guess.

It sounded like he was only at about 40,000 steps.

Wow.

Whenever someone walks that much, I'm like, they either do it because that's their exercise.

They want to stay in shape, obviously, but also maybe they can't give up big max.

He has to walk that much to maintain, but that's a lot.

That's harder as you get older.

I think Mino was telling me once, he took a walk out here and he was so proud of himself.

He walked for an hour and he gets back and he looks at his Fitbit or whatever it was

Robert De Niro (clip)

because

Pete Schwaba

he burned 130 calories.

It's like not even a ho ho.

So you gotta go the extra mile.

So I wanted to, okay, let's finish up.

We've got a couple of texts here and then I wanna play a clip for you guys that I thought was really cool that I found last night.

But our question of the night was who is your favorite first lady in honor of National First?

Ladies Day, which was Saturday.

Jim from Appleton, that's the 920.

He says, I have to go with, I don't know if he's listening to the beginning of the show, but this is eerie and peculiar.

He says, I have to go with Abigail Adams and Dolly Madison, both strong women, steering their husbands toward women's rights.

Todd Michaels

Nice.

Pete Schwaba

Yes.

Again, that's a guy that must have done a lot of reading.

Todd Michaels

Probably.

How do you know

Pete Schwaba

that?

Todd Michaels

I just,

Pete Schwaba

you know.

I just

Todd Michaels

assumed- We

Pete Schwaba

probably should, right?

I mean, that's stuff we should know.

Todd, please.

If this is like a once a month podcast, I'll read up on all the first ladies.

I cannot be reading and doing all this research before every show.

Steady Eddie in the 608 says, Pete, combining Einstein's theory of relativity and quantum mechanics means the past, the present, and the future all exist simultaneously.

So in another time, in a universe far, far away, I, Steady Eddie, am the 599th President of the United States.

My wife is Betty.

So my favorite First Lady is Sweaty Betty, wife of President Steady Eddie.

It's going to be beautiful.

First Lady Sweaty Betty will be honored and appear on the trillion dollar bill.

President Steady Eddie.

P.S.

Yes Pete, in case you're curious, Canada does become our 51st state.

Hey there.

Todd Michaels

I love his texts.

But sometimes, sometimes I just wonder if there's a little, a little

Pete Schwaba

wacky tobacco to the steady Eddie.

I don't know.

You know, he could just be a free wheel and kind of fun loving guy.

Todd Michaels

Very well spoken.

Thank you.

Not everything is

Pete Schwaba

about drugs.

Todd Michaels

That's

Pete Schwaba

true.

You

Todd Michaels

know,

Pete Schwaba

it is true.

Dave on the stream says, Teddy's horse for me.

All right, I don't get that.

Theodore Roosevelt

Todd Michaels

had a horse, right?

Pete Schwaba

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

There you go.

God, I got, that's so weird.

He said Teddy and I immediately went to Franklin.

Teddy Roosevelt was one of my favorite presidents ever.

That guy was.

Really?

Yes.

And I'll tell you why.

Todd Michaels

Speak softly and carry a big stick.

That's all I know.

Pete Schwaba

The parks, you know?

Sure.

Founding the parks.

And the guy resigned as the undersecretary of the Navy to lead a charge up, I think it was San Juan Hill, like those guys don't exist anymore.

They'll send other people's kids into battle.

Don't make

Robert De Niro (clip)

me go off time.

I will listen.

I will make this show

Pete Schwaba

political now.

Robert De Niro (clip)

No.

Pete Schwaba

So all right, thank you, Dave, for the text, and thank you all for your texts.

All right, I gotta play this clip, because I found this last night.

I didn't know this.

Robert De Niro auditioned for the Godfather, did not get a part.

Coppola did not cast him.

And as history shows, he played young Don Corleone and Godfather II and won a Best Actor Oscar.

for that.

But I found it was posted somewhere this audition of him, De Niro, auditioning for the role of Sonny Corleone, which went to James Kahn.

And here is Robert De Niro's 24 second audition.

Robert De Niro (clip)

You're going to take both of them out on me.

You're going to take them.

And you know what they're going to do to you.

And you know what you're doing, you knock somebody off.

You take a gun, you shoot them right up against his

That's what you do.

You get his brains all over your nice new Ivy League suit, Michael.

That's what happens.

I know you can do it.

All right, you prove it to me.

You can do it, God.

Prove

Pete Schwaba

it.

What the hell happened?

That's so great.

I mean, listen, he probably would have been a great sonny.

Yes.

But James kind of sonny.

That's the way it happened.

You can't picture anybody else.

I don't know, I think that's fantastic.

And DeNiro certainly did okay by himself too.

Brian from Green Bay says, why am I hearing Todd?

Todd Michaels

So confused.

Pete Schwaba

We're not hearing Todd.

Brian, I hear Conrad.

What is this?

It's the wacky-to-backy again.

So I saw, I just, very quick thumbnail, I saw these two films over the weekend, The Accountant Part Two.

Ben Affleck plays an accountant.

And if you saw Accountant Part 1, which I really liked, I thought it was good.

This one was kind of brutal.

Like, the caper parts of it are fun.

And John Berenthal plays his long-lost brother.

They're both badasses who have been trained militarily by their father.

And those parts of the movie were good.

But Ben Affleck talks in this, like, weird accent.

Like he's trying to throw himself into the character even more and he says stuff to John Berenthal like when when the whole movies over he's like What are your plans?

Like he's like he's trying to talk like how people on the spectrum might

Todd Michaels

talk it was

Pete Schwaba

so Awkward and he does it on and off throughout the movie and he didn't do it in the first account Really weird.

I I've never been able to get on board with him as an actor But I like his directing and then I saw drop which was good.

Have you seen drop time?

I have not

A woman, a widow, out on her first date gets all these threatening texts dropped onto her phone and she's trying to figure out if it's the guy, her date.

Or I think when you drop on someone else's phone, it has to be within like 50 feet or something

Todd Michaels

like

Pete Schwaba

that.

So they're in a restaurant, she's trying to figure out who it is, throughout the course of the movie.

Really liked it, but got crazy at the end.

And I see that so often, like even in the accountant too, the last shootout.

They're just running and shooting, and there's like 50 guys shooting.

I'm like, really?

Nobody hits them?

I mean, I'm a bad shot, but jeez.

Hey, man, this has been fun.

That whole drop thing, though.

Todd Michaels

That's kind of freaky.

It was a great practice.

It gets a

Pete Schwaba

little crazy at the end, but I did enjoy it overall.

Brian says Liberace.

Todd Michaels

That's a Jim Schmidt.

Oh, okay.

Jim Schmidt is a big fan of Liberace.

That's all I'll say.

That's all I need to say.

Yeah, I explained so much.

Pete Schwaba

All right, folks.

Thank you for being with us here on Nightlight tonight.

Thank you to the guests, the techs.

You guys are awesome.

Thanks for being part of the show.

We'll be back tomorrow night to do it all again.

Mike Straylow's here.

Tune in.

Peach Wabba Nightlight on behalf of Todd Michaels.

Good night, Wisconsin.

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