Superheroes and Budding Superstars (Hour 2)

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Superheroes and Budding Superstars (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Fri Apr 25, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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And now, a guy who doesn't have 20-20 vision, even in hindsight, Pete Schwabba.

Pete Schwaba

Welcome back to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

Kicking off our number two here on a Friday night, it is a bar band Friday night, as it is every Friday here on Night Light.

Terry Barr will be along shortly with a guest that is going to be officially the youngest guest I've ever had on Night Light.

She will be here in the studio performing

Um, so stick around for that.

That's coming up in just a few minutes.

We do not have a question tonight because it's kind of a best of.

We've put stuff together because Conrad is on vacation.

I hope he's, I hope he's taking care of himself.

Lisa, what do you think?

Do you think Conrad is being responsible?

Lisa Hale

It's the NFL Draft Week.

There's no way Conrad is being responsible.

He's not.

He's out there.

He's all about the draft right now.

Pete Schwaba

Listen, he won't be up enough.

He won't be up early enough to hear New WISCO Weekend.

So I think you can say whatever you want about him here in this segment.

That is-

Lisa Hale

This is who he won't be.

Pete Schwaba

That is the voice of the host of New WISCO Weekend and Civic Media's Northeast Wisconsin Bureau Chief, Lisa Hale, who joins me now on Night Light.

It's been too long, my friend.

Lisa Hale

It has been.

It's been way too long.

How are you doing?

Pete Schwaba

I'm doing very well.

I look at what you just did.

You just kind of, you just hosted me because now you're used to hosting and I love

Lisa Hale

that.

I'm so used to hosting and I'm so used to being the one who gets people to talk to me that it's weird being on this side.

Pete Schwaba

I'm an open book.

Even though this is nightlight, you can ask me if you want to play host for a minute, you can ask me anything.

That could be a new segment we could do so.

Lisa Hale

So Pete, have you been taking part in the NFL draft activities?

Pete Schwaba

No, I ran a seven nine forty.

So it turns out there wasn't much interest in my qualifications to be drafted.

So I'm going to set this one out, but there's still hope for free agency.

We'll see what happens.

Lisa Hale

And what is that that sport that you invented?

Naked soccer golf.

Pete Schwaba

Wait, did I do a thing on that?

I think I did, didn't I?

Oh my gosh.

At least when you drop as much gold as I do, it's impossible to remember all of it.

So I actually, I would play naked soccer golf if I could find other willing participants, but I think it could be fun.

But I'd probably be picky about who I would want to see naked.

Like we all would,

Lisa Hale

yeah.

I would be very picky on who I would

Pete Schwaba

be

Lisa Hale

playing with.

Pete Schwaba

And I say that fully understanding.

No one wants to see me naked.

So let's just do soccer golf.

Let's keep things simple and PG rated.

Hey, it is great to have you here.

Thank you.

How are things at Newisco weekend?

Lisa Hale

I'm telling you, they have been going so great.

You mentioned that you have Terry Barr coming on a little bit later on.

And I have to say this, she's my partner for New WISCO weekend.

She's great.

She and I work in tandem.

If I don't have the cover story, she does.

If she has the cover story, then I open the issue with a feature story and we switch back and forth.

She is just phenomenal.

I absolutely adore her and I could not do it without her.

So I just wanted to say that since she's going to be on here in a little bit

Pete Schwaba

so you

Lisa Hale

can tell her just how much that I talk her up.

Pete Schwaba

I will.

But

Lisa Hale

she's fantastic.

Pete Schwaba

Well, everybody does, right?

I mean, I'm doing this in Madison right now.

And, you know, I know how much Terry Bar loves Barband Friday night.

It was named after Terry Bar.

And she said, you know, can I be on the stream?

I'm too busy.

And I was like, you live in Madison.

You love the site.

But that's how busy she is.

She does everything.

So she'll still

be

Pete Schwaba

here over the stream, and it'll be great.

And we'll have Paige in the studio performing.

And Terri is just an absolute treasure.

So we're both lucky to have her as part of our shows.

I love being part of New Isco Weekend.

I love picking the movies.

And yeah, it's so much fun.

Lisa Hale

You know you know that I absolutely love your segment because you and I have such similar tastes in movies and the one you picked for this episode of Newisco weekend is one of my favorites, of course and I've watched it so many times I actually think it's the best of all of them of this topic

Pete Schwaba

so I totally

involving Hannibal Lecter, you mean?

Lisa Hale

Yes.

Pete Schwaba

Yes.

Brian Cox is so amazing and creepy in just a few minutes of screen time.

Lisa Hale

You know, Hopkins did great.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

Lisa Hale

It was a fantastic lecture.

But this was the first time you ever see Hannibal Lecter on screen.

And he just did him so well,

Pete Schwaba

so

Lisa Hale

creepy, so just understated.

And I really do like that.

I like it much better than Red Dragon, which was the remake

Pete Schwaba

with Edward Norton.

I agree 100 percent.

Yeah.

And like I'm with you.

I like Silence of the Lambs, but I felt like it was so overt and it was still creepy.

It was still scary.

There was a lot of shock value.

There wasn't as much shock value in Manhunter.

It had an overall eeriness to it, though, that I just loved.

And I love William Peterson, the stuff he did younger in his career when he was younger.

It's just fantastic.

So what else do you have coming up this weekend at New Wisco?

Well,

Lisa Hale

it's all about superheroes

Pete Schwaba

and New

Lisa Hale

Wisco weekend this week because Monday, the 28th is National Superhero Day.

So we wanted to celebrate the everyday heroes and superheroes.

We've got...

Our cover story is a Wisconsin author who lists 100 Wisconsin idols.

We have a story about the Red Cross looking for nominations for their heroes ceremony that they do every year where they acknowledge somebody who's done wonderful things in their community.

We've got that.

We've got

a story from Conrad on the Green Bay optimists, which I think are superheroes because they help pilot programs for youth.

So, you know, we can, we can take anything and flip it to be super.

Pete Schwaba

I hope he already turned it in though, and you're not expecting it Saturday morning after.

Lisa Hale

No, I've already turned everything.

Pete Schwaba

That is fantastic.

You had 7,000 apart on recently.

I love that you had a musical act on a show that's on kind of earlier.

Aren't they great?

They've been on Nightlight several times.

They're so much fun.

Lisa Hale

We have a musical guest on every single new WISCO weekend.

We end the show with a musical guest and this week it's one who did a song on Superhero and how you can be

the brave superhero of your own life.

So we've got that.

What is the name of that band?

Gin Chocolate and Bottle Rockets.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, yeah.

Lisa Hale

So that's

Pete Schwaba

going to be

Lisa Hale

our musical feature this week.

We we've always got a musical feature, whether it comes from civic media has such a wide variety of shows.

And we can get musical features that have maybe been on my know in the mayor or that have maybe been on, you know,

mad radio, or maybe have been on your show.

You never know where the musical group is going to come from.

Pete Schwaba

That's very true.

All right, so let's get a quick, my guest is Lisa Hale.

She is the Northeast Wisconsin bureau chief of Pacific Media, and she hosts the news magazine program here in Northeast Wisconsin called New Whisko Weekend, which is outstanding.

It runs two times every weekend.

So definitely check it out if you haven't already.

Next week.

This is exciting.

I know you and Todd Michaels, the producer of Mino and the Mayor, and as a side hustle, he is a paranormal investigator, which I think is so cool.

You're doing a paranormal theme next week.

Lisa Hale

Yeah, next week's theme is paranormal, but it's also tourism and bike month.

And we wanted to get it all in there.

But I definitely need to get in touch with Todd because we got to write that paranormal story.

And believe me, I'm going to be, you know,

leaning in on him for that.

Pete Schwaba

I'm just going to say something.

I hope you don't take this the wrong way, Lees.

You seem like the most on top of everything person I've ever met.

Honestly, the reminders I get from you, there's no way I could ever forget a new WISCO Weekend deadline because Conrad reminds me, but I get the emails from you.

Honest to God.

you know I forgot about a meeting last week and it was in my calendar but like if enough time goes by you can forget stuff like you are on it like if I had something to do I would give it to you and I know what we get done.

Lisa Hale

Yeah and that's that's pretty much what Todd says too.

But I think that's from being in news and being in radio and organizing shows and stuff for so many years.

I just get used to nagging people and realizing that I have to be the kindergarten teacher and have to pull people along.

Pete Schwaba

Who have your favorite guests been that you've had on and who do you would you do anything to get on the show as a guest?

Lisa Hale

Well,

Of course, I would do anything to get Kevin Smith on as a guest.

I don't know what I would have him talk about,

Pete Schwaba

but I would do

Lisa Hale

anything to get him on.

Pete Schwaba

You and Amanda, she loves Kevin Smith, too.

Have you guys ever conversed?

Lisa Hale

Oh, yeah.

Pete Schwaba

Oh,

Lisa Hale

yeah.

Pete Schwaba

That's fantastic.

Lisa Hale

Kevin Smith is is one of my future ex, Mr. Lisa Hales.

I just have to get him to divorce his wife.

and come to Wisconsin.

Pete Schwaba

You have a husband, too, right, though?

I mean, you've got your own issues.

Yeah, I don't know.

We'll get

Lisa Hale

rid of him, too,

Pete Schwaba

but... What's your favorite Kevin Smith movie?

Lisa Hale

I have to go with It's Tide.

Pete Schwaba

It's Tide

Lisa Hale

Between Clerks and Chasing Amy.

Clerks, because it's the OG.

Chasing Amy was just so well-written and so funny.

Pete Schwaba

Right.

Lisa Hale

I enjoyed it.

And then, of course, there's Tusk for the weird ones.

Pete Schwaba

I haven't seen that.

You know, I saw, I've seen about four or five of his films, but I have not seen Tusk.

There's a few others too, but it's funny you say Clerks and Chasing Amy because they were very different movies.

Like Clerks was almost had this gritty gorilla style and then Chasing Amy was that with a budget.

They gave him a budget.

It looks cleaner.

It looks nicer.

So it's interesting.

You kind of have opposite ends of the spectrum there.

I think that's

Lisa Hale

great.

Kevin Smith really can do no wrong in my book even with his weird movies.

I find something that is Relevant or that I can take as a nugget from every one of them and Clerk so clerks is always going to be my favorite.

Pete Schwaba

You know, here's my fear

Lisa Hale

Jersey girl.

I liked Jersey girl.

I forgot

Pete Schwaba

about Jersey

Lisa Hale

girl.

Yeah

Pete Schwaba

Here's my fear for you, though, is that this is actually gonna come to fruition.

You're gonna get your shot with Kevin Smith.

He's probably gonna get divorced again, because he lives, he's in that world.

You'll see that he's available.

You'll dump your husband like a bad habit, and Kevin Smith will be the new Mr. Lisa Hale.

But after about a year, guess what?

He's just a dude, and you're gonna go, what the heck was I thinking?

Lisa Hale

But he's a dude who can make me laugh.

Pete Schwaba

Well, and you'll remind him to make you laugh all the time

Lisa Hale

and I will remind him I will send him an email saying

Pete Schwaba

just

Lisa Hale

you know Your deadline to make me laugh is Wednesday at 1159 p.m.

Pete Schwaba

Get that in quickly, please You have a movie line memory like me we've gone back and forth over you know Messenger when we when I turn in my pick of the week What movie do you think you could quote?

Like non-stop.

What's your most quotable movie?

Lisa Hale

Oh my gosh, you know, I Can quote fame oh wow play the movie fame I will do the entire movie for you the entire Let's see

Pete Schwaba

What's your favorite song from fame?

Lisa Hale

Out here on my

Pete Schwaba

own me too.

I knew you were gonna say that such a great underrated

underrated.

It really

Lisa Hale

is.

It's understated.

It's a lovely ballad.

So yeah, fame, I quote a lot.

I do quote clerks quite often.

Okay.

Um, I also quote, quote real genius.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, I love that movie.

Lisa Hale

My favorite quote from there is, I am pondering the immortal words of Socrates, who once said, I drank what?

So yeah.

That's

Pete Schwaba

a great way to go out.

Thank you so much, Lisa.

Hey, have a great show this weekend.

Let's do this again.

And we'll go back and forth.

Keep sending those movie lines.

Lisa Hale

OK,

Pete Schwaba

how about this

Lisa Hale

one in a row?

Pete Schwaba

Yes.

I'll think about it.

I'll message you.

Thanks so much, Lisa Hale.

Coming up next, it's Barban Friday Night.

Terry Barr is here with a very special guest.

It's going to be a blast.

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Pete Schwaba

For my favorite time of the week where we talk about music and even more fun stuff I mean nightlights all about fun stuff to begin with we do movies we do comedy we do TV and music and Friday is Outstanding music because terry bar one of the hosts of max ink radio is here.

Hello, my friend

Oh, hi, Pete.

And this is an extra special Bar Band Friday.

I'm so excited about this one.

Pete Schwaba

Thanks for having

us on Bar Band Friday and ready to go with this.

Pete Schwaba

Absolutely.

I'm sorry you couldn't be here in person, but once again, we thought outside the box, Terry, and this was your suggestion, and I loved it.

Let's have someone live in the studio.

And even though you couldn't be here, you still brought an outstanding guest with you.

Why don't you introduce her?

OK, this young lady is making waves.

She's selling out shows.

She's singing the national anthem all over the place, including a recent Milwaukee Bucks game.

I'm talking about none other than

Paige Claiber.

Hi, guys.

What's up?

Pete Schwaba

I want to say, too.

I think

you're here.

What?

Pete Schwaba

She's glad you're

here.

Oh, I'm glad I'm here, too.

Pete Schwaba

Paige, you are officially, we're making nightlight history here because Paige is the youngest guest we've had on nightlight so far.

No way, actually?

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

Conrad, my producer, is 14, but I understand you're 12.

Yes,

Pete Schwaba

I

am.

I turned 12 in February, so I'm stoked about that.

Pete Schwaba

You're newly 12?

I am newly 12.

Pete Schwaba

Has your life changed?

Isn't

it incredible, you guys?

Pete Schwaba

Unbelievable.

Like everything happened for me when I was 11, so I'm excited what 12 brings.

Like I released my album when I was 11.

I sang the National Anthem when I was 11.

But now I'm 12, so who knows what kind of turns are coming my way.

I don't

know.

What kind of dreams do you have for being 12 years old?

What do you want to do this

year?

I don't know I kind of want to like just do more like open mic nights because it's kind of like been my New Year's resolution because I feel like I haven't been like doing that much because I've more been doing like national anthems and like doing like hour gigs at like coffee shops So

I'm

planning to do more like open mic night stuff like just more out there kind of things instead of like more like

Big shows,

Pete Schwaba

but

I do want to play more big shows too.

So yeah, I just like getting myself out there.

It's like another big cool

Pete Schwaba

How about that a 12 year old and it's it's almost May and she's still honoring her New Year's resolution when most of us have scrapped it after like four days That's very impressive How did you guys meet Terry, how did you discover Paige or how did you meet her?

Well, she is a

I would say an amazing product of Girls Rock Camp Madison.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, she learned a lot there about music,

playing

guitar, writing songs, and the thing about it where many of us, even the ladies rock campers, which I would be one, it's an awesome time.

And then you walk away and you go do other things.

Paige has stayed on top of what she's learned.

And she just keeps, you know, creating and being out there and putting herself out there.

And I feel like a proud auntie or something.

We met her that way.

And then she came on Max Inc Radio.

Ooh, that must have been five months ago already.

And she just blew us away with an hour long performance and interview.

Was it really an hour?

Oh, it was an hour.

We had a couple commercials, but it was pretty much the full hour.

She played something like six songs, Pete.

Pete Schwaba

Oh my gosh.

And all the original songs, you write your own stuff.

How do you do that, Paige?

Like, you're in middle school?

Mm-hmm.

Okay, so you got homework, you got your friends, your folks, your family.

When do you find time to write?

Do you lock yourself in a room?

Do you do it between classes?

What's your process?

I mostly do it at like 2 a.m.

in the morning.

What?

Um, no, like I I wouldn't exactly say 2 a.m.

That's that's more of my summer summer bedtime, but um more like like to like the limit is 12 as um 11 p.m.

Pete Schwaba

You have to be in bed by 11.

Okay.

She's looking over to her mom.

See if her mom can hear what she's saying

right

Pete Schwaba

now.

Mom's in the studio.

Just gave us thumbs up, right?

I

have like wrote like songs at school, but then I don't like like I really continue them like at home because I don't have like a guitar like a piano in my hands because I usually just like write my songs at an instrument because then I can like get a better understanding of like what notes I'm playing you know because

Pete Schwaba

then if

I ever were to like produce that music then I would like tell my producer like okay this is like stuff that I want you know

Pete Schwaba

so you're

I'm kind of blown away here Paige.

I don't know if you understand like you just said before my first album came out.

How many 11 year olds have other than what Michael Jackson maybe like Anna's or Taylor Swift put out an album when they're 11.

Do you understand how cool that is?

Yes.

Pete Schwaba

OK good.

But I don't really think about it every day.

Right.

You know I mean like it's just it's just day like at school like.

Pete Schwaba

But you don't mind if I geek out over it though

right.

Me

Pete Schwaba

too.

Me too, yeah.

Paige,

Pete Schwaba

are you

writing new songs for your next album?

I'm like, I'm continuing to writing, but yeah, I'm still deciding if I want to put out a single or another album or something, but yeah.

I'm continuing to write more and more songs every day, so I'm just trying to write more, because I feel like I've been like...

Not writing as much as I used to but I get I kind of like want to get back into like my writing habits

Pete Schwaba

That happens though, right?

I mean that's how it is with writers.

You have writers blocked and you feel inspired.

That's okay

I had this huge writers block, but if I only went away It's still like kind of there, but I think like the more that I write the more it goes away

So

Pete Schwaba

I'm just

trying to

Pete Schwaba

like work your way through it.

Absolutely.

All right.

Yeah.

This is exciting, folks.

It's great that you're here tonight.

Paige Cleaver is here in the studio.

She's our guest tonight on Bar Band Friday, along with my Bar Band host, co-host, Terry Barr, who introduced us to Paige Cleaver, who is here.

She's going to perform for us when we come back after a very short break.

Do not go anywhere.

It's Bar Band Friday night on Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

She's going off about something that you said.

Pete Schwaba

Paige

is singing.

Pete Schwaba

She

wants to sing.

Pete Schwaba

Taylor Swift.

Hey, welcome back to Nightlight.

This is Peach Wava.

Terry Barr is with me.

It is a bar band Friday night, and we have Terry is joining us via the stream.

I am in Madison tonight with our in-studio guest, Paige Kleber.

Hey, y'all.

What's up?

Pete Schwaba

All right.

What's

Pete Schwaba

up?

And you've been on Max Inc.

You're no stranger to this studio, probably.

I have.

Yeah.

It's great to be back.

I'm so happy.

Pete Schwaba

I can tell.

So remember us when you're famous.

That's what I told her at the end of our first interview.

I

will do that.

She's

going to be famous.

Pete Schwaba

All right.

Well, even if you're not famous, remember us.

It's just kind of a nice thing to do.

Yeah.

OK.

Friends everywhere you go.

That's that's that's how you got a role.

Pete Schwaba

That sounds like a song.

All right, so are you going to play something for us, Paige?

I will play

Pete Schwaba

something for you.

You said you wanted to play a song called Better Than Me.

Yes, I do.

It

Pete Schwaba

sounds a little, I don't want to say anything.

I'll hold off judgment, but it sounds great.

You just start up whenever you're ready.

This is Paige Cleaver on Nightlight Bar Band Friday Night.

Tell me baby, am I just for the looks?

Will last just as long as it's a music Tell me baby, did I ever make it past you?

What

was I supposed to do?

You say, you said I said

Thank you so much.

Pete Schwaba

I don't know if I'm more,

I don't

Pete Schwaba

know if I'm more in awe of the fact that she's, that was such a great song or that she knows more about relationships at 12 than I do.

I know, it's amazing.

How did, where does the inspiration for that song come

from?

I just started like thinking of like a melody in my head and I just kind of put some words to it, you

Pete Schwaba

know?

It just

kind of like came on.

I just, I just got like a piece of paper and just started like writing and writing and writing.

And it was fantastic.

I never felt so satisfied.

It was satisfying.

That's the word I would say for it.

Pete Schwaba

How new is that song, Paige?

When was that written?

And would you say that's your most popular song?

I think that maybe... I can't say what my most popular song would be.

They're all really good.

I just love them all

Pete Schwaba

so much.

It's a great song.

It's

Pete Schwaba

my favorite song.

Thank

you,

guys.

Make sure you ask her about her fan club.

Oh, yes.

I've got my little bracelet on in honor of the glue sticks, her fan

Pete Schwaba

club.

Ooh, I

like that

Pete Schwaba

a lot.

I actually just signed up a few minutes ago.

I

Pete Schwaba

did.

So tell us, where does the name the glue sticks come from?

That's pretty cool.

My last name, Kleber.

It rhymes with Justin Bieber.

That's just what I tell people.

Like, what's your name, Paige?

Paige Cleaver?

Rumple is Justin Bieber

if you have a hard time

remembering that.

Okay.

It comes from the German word glue.

Um, it means like cleaver.

So my last name in German means glue.

So I call my support is glue sticks So if you go to my website page cleaver.com kind of looks like clever and You like can like put in your email address for the glue sticks fan club you get like notified for like new gigs It's all thanks to my my roadie aka my dad aka website person

Pete Schwaba

Website

builder

website designer.

Makes a team.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah,

does take a team.

Pete Schwaba

That's so great.

And what a cool name for your fan club.

Terry mentioned that you're doing the national anthem at a lot of places.

Do you like doing that?

And tell us what that's been like.

Um, I've like done a lot of national anthems at like, um, everywhere in like Wisconsin from like the Mallards game to the Bucks game to

Um, yeah, just kind of anywhere that I can like play at like the high school at like just anywhere that I have an opportunity to like get on stage.

I'll take it.

That's a

hard song.

Yeah, it is.

And then you play guitar with it.

You're not doing it.

You're playing your guitar and singing one of the hardest songs out there to sing and to nail it because everybody knows that song.

Pete Schwaba

That's a great point.

Were you better at the guitar first or did you like singing first?

How did?

What was that sequence?

Um, I kind of started singing when I was maybe like five or six or just I was just singing as like a toddler in my crib or something.

You know, it's like every day.

Um, yeah, I was in love with Adele.

I loved Adele when I was like really young.

I was an Adele fan.

That

was

that

was me.

And then I started playing like piano when I was five because I really wanted to do it because my sister was doing it and just looked so cool.

And I was like, I want to do that.

And then

She signed me up for my mom, signed me up for piano lessons, and then I got into piano.

I started playing more like classical music.

And I liked that, but I was like still really into pop music.

And then I got introduced to like guitar.

I just got a guitar for like anything that was Christmas or maybe my birthday.

Nobody knows and then and then I just yeah long ago That's that's how long nobody knows and I just started like looking up songs to play on YouTube and every everything just like that and then I went to girls rock camp Which was awesome.

You like go there for a week and you like You will write a song with a band

and then you name the band, and then you get to perform it.

Perform the song that you wrote with your band, with your band that you named.

It was incredible.

I was like, wait, people do this in a week?

Apparently.

Pete Schwaba

That sounds like an absolute blast, Paige.

It is.

And you, I want to applaud, I mean, you know, I always tell kids like, and maybe you'd agree with this, Terry, do what you love

now.

Pete Schwaba

Don't wait until you're an adult.

And you've got

such

Pete Schwaba

a head start.

on everybody else who wants to be a singer-songwriter, you're already doing it.

I think that's amazing.

Do you want to play another song now or do you want to wait until after the

break?

We can wait after the

Pete Schwaba

break.

OK, let's do that.

Where do you find inspiration page to write?

What do you write about?

Do you write about school or your friends?

That

song sounded like a boy.

It did.

That last song.

It wasn't necessarily about like, I was just like,

Generally, you know, I just I with that song.

I don't really know what I was like I don't remember what I was thinking about when I was writing it.

I just was like, oh, what's wrong with me?

B and I just wrote a line with that was like B, you know, I just um But I like that song so much because it just kind of like shows how I was like grown is like a songwriter and

a singer

cuz like

I have written even better songs than that, but it's still a really good song, you

Pete Schwaba

know?

Yeah, totally.

My guest is Paige Cleaver.

She is our guest tonight for Bar Band Friday Night, as is Terri Bar.

Terri introduced Nightlight to Paige.

She's here in the studio.

It's great to have her.

We just heard her song Better Than Me.

She's gonna perform another one after we do a quick break, but before we get to the break, I wanna, when you're not performing or writing songs,

I know you like Taylor Swift, but would you say she's your main influence or who do you listen to now?

I think she's like I like Olivia Rodrigo.

I've been recently listening to a lot of her music She's been she was like my my inspiration at like 11 when everything kind of just like started to kick up She was like what I thought about during like the recording process of my album

So I do, I do love Taylor, but then I think like my earliest inspiration was, um, Adele.

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

Cause like, have you, have you heard her sing?

Pete Schwaba

She's great.

She's got a great voice.

Yeah.

How can you not love her?

Anyway, she's great.

Taylor's great.

She's calling you

Pete Schwaba

Pete.

She is calling you.

I'm used to it.

Not by a 12 year old, but this is the first for that.

But, um, so how do you like,

Do your classmates see you, Paige, doing these great things?

Like you said, you sing the National Anthem at school events and all this kind of, what's their take on what you're doing?

Are they supportive or are they envious or do they think you're really cool because you're doing this thing you dream about?

What's the deal

there?

I think they are a little envious, but we push

Pete Schwaba

through.

I'm envious.

We, yeah, we

Pete Schwaba

were all envious of you Paige.

Thank you

Pete Schwaba

guys.

And then we just, I just use that as like material to write songs.

There you go.

Cause there's-

Good girl.

Yeah.

That's the way to use it.

As Taylor once said, there's no greater revenge than writing a song about someone you hate and getting, and winning a Grammy over it.

So.

I mean.

Oh, I loved it.

Pete Schwaba

Um, where can people see you?

Do you have any dates coming up page like where they can see you live?

Um, I don't, um, yes, I'm performing at the Whammy's.

Pete Schwaba

Oh,

nice.

You are.

Whammy's are Wisconsin Music Awards.

Yeah.

So you can find me.

That's incredible.

Congratulations.

Thank you so much.

I'm up for Rising Star.

It's on May 4th.

And you can go.

It's called...

Pete Schwaba

We'll find out.

Let's do a quick break and then we'll find out.

We got to do a very short break.

Is it on

your website?

What?

Pete Schwaba

Is it on your website?

Yes, it is

on my website.

Pete Schwaba

All right.

We will give you all the information you need after this very short break.

And then Paige is going to perform again.

She's in the studio.

It's Night Light with Pete Schwabba and Bar Band Friday Night with our Paltary Bar.

Paige Cleaver's here.

We're coming right back.

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Pete Schwaba

Welcome back to Nightlife.

This

is

Pete Schwaba

Peach Wamba.

It's a Bar Band Friday night, ladies and gentlemen.

Great to have you with me.

Our friend Terri Barra is here from Maxink Radio and she introduced us to this amazing performer that we have in the studio right now, Paige Cleaver.

Hey guys, how's it going?

Hey Terri, what's up?

It

is so great to see you, to hear you.

Thank you for

joining us for a special Bar Band Friday.

Just so welcome.

Thanks so much for having me here.

Pete Schwaba

So before we get too far into the segment page, because I want to hear you again, do you mind singing something and then we can have a little more conversation after that?

We'll do.

All right.

So what are you going to play for us?

I'm going to play for you guys a song called 2025.

And I originally wrote this about the election, but I think things took a little turn for the worst.

So I'm going to I just called it a Happy New Year song.

OK.

So

Pete Schwaba

I love it.

Yeah.

Cue's 20-25.

20-25.

Pete Schwaba

Paige Cleaver, bar band Friday night.

Dear ladies and gentlemen on Barbie and Friday night here on Nightlight, that was outstanding.

So I assume that's a pretty new song given the year.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I kind of wrote it in like, like in November of 2024.

And I was like, I'll just sing it in 2025.

But then I didn't sing it in 2025.

So then everyone was like, you know, it's not 2025, right?

I'm like, yes, I'm very aware of the year.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, that's so funny.

All right.

So Paige, if you want to hear Paige's music, she's on Spotify, YouTube.

You can see her at the Whammy's.

Is that right, Terry?

Am I getting that right?

That is correct.

Pete Schwaba

The

Whammy's are in Milwaukee

Pete Schwaba

this year.

And I

think Paige, did you say May 4th?

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

And you're up for Best New Artist?

I'm also up for Best New Artist in the Madison Music Awards, the Mamas, M-A-M-A.

Pete Schwaba

So am I. Good luck.

Best wishes.

I'm really kind of in awe that you are doing all this at your age page.

Have you ever won an award before for what you do?

I haven't.

I'm really excited.

When I found out that I was up for Best New Artist, I'm like, you got to be kidding me, right?

And then my mom was like, no, you're up for Rising Star.

Oh, okay.

Pete Schwaba

Gosh.

I was kind of like, what does this mean now?

Like, what happens if I win?

Pete Schwaba

Hey, Paige, we have about a minute left.

Okay.

Okay, so I have to ask you this.

Where do you see yourself?

Where do you want your career to go?

Do you want to sell out arenas?

Do you want to write movie scores?

Do you want to just have a great, like, what do you, what do you see yourself?

Let's say 25 year old Paige, where are you?

I want to like sell out arenas.

I would say like well I want to be a pop star like like what what Taylor Swift does Yeah, but I just I just say singer-songwriter because it just it sounds better like oh, I'm missing a song writer It's true, but I just I just kind of lean more with singer-songwriter.

Yeah, I kind of like that term better

Pete Schwaba

I think it's a great term.

I think you have a ton of personality and a ton of talent, and I cannot thank you enough for joining us here tonight for Bar Band Friday Night.

You're so

welcome.

Thanks for having me, guys.

It's my pleasure.

Pete Schwaba

Terry, thank you very much for introducing us to Page and for Bar Band Friday Night.

Thank you all for listening.

Thanks to my guests, Lisa Hale, Frank Anderson.

And Monday on Nightlight, we have comedian Zayn Lamprey, who is coming back to Wisconsin.

filmmaker behind the Dell's Nelly Clues, which you can see at the Milwaukee Film Festival.

That's all Monday night.

On nightlight, I'll be back in Green Bay.

Thank you so much.

Erin Zommers, thank you as always, my friend.

Just crushing it as usual.

Thanks,

Pete Schwaba

guys.

That's actually Erin's name.

Thank you.

Pete Schwaba

Good night, everybody.

We'll be back Monday.

Good night, Wisconsin.

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