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Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a guy who prefers to travel by catapult, Pete Schwabba.

Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

You found us it's Friday night.

We are gonna have we have a great show tonight We're not really here.

It's one of those type of shows Conrad's on vacation and I'm in Madison at the moment But we we put together a show anyway that is primarily original So you still have that the only difference will be we won't have a question of the night because we are not here to field your answers But we hope you'll still be a part of the show by way of listening and checking out

The guests and the content we have all set for you tonight.

Conrad, how you doing?

You know, I do have a question.

Yeah, uh-oh.

What does traveling by catapult and tail, like, from Marinette all the way here?

It's the fastest way, buddy.

I could do avoid traffic.

And I land, I stick the landing, you know?

I land on my feet.

It works out pretty well.

You know what a catapult is, right?

Oh, I know what

a catapult is.

I'm just saying, that's an impressive catapult to shoot you from.

Marinette all the way to Green Bay.

Actually, I have a connecting catapult in O'Connell.

How

long is the layover?

It depends

how injured I am when I

land in O'Connell and where I land.

But I got to think of some new bumpers.

That one's great, though.

I love it.

Do you think I could say,

and now, here's Pete Schwabba, a guy with a pocket full of bad intentions.

Do you think that's too risque?

I don't know if people would read into that or not.

I think we've had our share of risque ones already.

We're

getting there.

Yeah.

It's kind of fun.

They said we could take some liberties and push the envelope a little bit.

So I guess until we get slapped on the wrist, we'll just keep doing that.

It is a fun show tonight, folks.

We have some great guests for your Friday night entertainment.

It is Friday night, and you know what that means.

It's a bar band Friday.

Our friend Terri Bar will be here.

She's one of the co-hosts of Max Inc Radio, and she joins us every Friday night with new music and amazing conversation.

Terri is so much fun to hang out with.

She will be here a little later with some new music that we always look forward to.

She is, I'll be honest, all right?

I'm not...

Wisconsin isn't my home state, but when you think of showbiz or music or whatever, you think of those mechas, like with music, it's like LA, New York, Seattle, maybe Chicago, Minneapolis.

But how great is our state when it comes to music?

I mean, just what Terry brings every week, I can't believe there are that many great musicians in Wisconsin.

I'm never disappointed.

No, me either.

She always brings great music and fun conversations.

She does.

And I'm more impressed that our state has such great talent, too, because there are people here who have been playing music for years that I never even knew existed, but thanks to Terry and Max Inc.

She's cleared that up and shown us the way, so that'll be fun.

Lisa Hale is here tonight.

She is the host of New WISCO Weekend, and she covers news for WISS and WGBW here on Civic Media.

Lisa does an amazing job.

She is a news veteran and it's fun if you have not checked out new WISCO weekend yet We'll give you a little taste of what's coming up this weekend But Lisa is a really good host too, and I think she's having a lot of fun with it So what do you have a thing on this weekend?

Do you have a feature a featurette?

Yes,

I do I kind of forgot No,

you forgot about doing it or you just forgot what you had planned this

week

Yeah Something

sports related I would assume

it's something that I done I did in the past and since I'm you know, I'm speaking to you from vacation

That's true

So I talked to her last weekend.

She has some stuff saved up for me that I've done in the past and oh cool She's deciding with with the thing.

Oh, I like that a lot.

Yeah, I think you know

Not to toot my own horn, but I think it's going to be good.

Some of your best work.

Some of my best work.

I love it.

My classic pick of the week is Manhunter.

It's a Michael Mann film that was remade years later called The Red Dragon with Ed Norton.

But Manhunter is just a spectacular film.

It came out in 1986 and Michael Mann has his classic look.

It looks a little bit like heat in terms of aesthetics.

Really cool shots, lots of white, lots of brightness within the darkness.

And expertly, very well acted by William Peterson, Joan Allen, Dennis Farina, Brian Cox, a great cast.

So that will be my classic movie pick of the week.

I'll...

I'll see what Lisa thinks about that when she joins the show in a little while.

But new WISCO Weekend, folks.

Check it out if you haven't already.

Just a great news magazine show that focuses on Northeast Wisconsin.

And Lisa does a bang up job.

So we'll talk to her in a little while.

And then an interview we did with our pal Frank Anderson of Wisconsinology.

And Frank was preempted one night.

So we thought, you know, hardly anybody heard the interview.

Frank deserves more ears.

So we are going to, we're gonna play that again tonight as well.

That's coming up in just a little bit.

Frank on the Milwaukee Film Festival, which opens the 24th last night, I guess.

Frank was one of the editors of the film about Gallagher.

He does a lot of like editing of documentaries for Netflix.

He's got a really good, a good gig there.

And he does a lot of other stuff too, musically.

film that cinematically and He gets quite a bit of editing work in addition to running Wisconsin ology.

So I'm excited to see Gallagher And Frank's work, but he'll be along shortly as well.

So other than that we've got You know what tomorrow is?

What's tomorrow

independent bookstore day?

Okay, so I know you took time off.

I know you got the draft on your brain.

Yeah, but

Stop by an independent bookstore.

I wouldn't kill you to expand your horizons a little bit, right?

I have two books in my shelf.

Two?

Two books.

Are they both

sports related?

I got them for Christmas from Greg Bach.

Really?

Yeah.

You and Greg are that tight.

We do like a producer secret sand.

Yeah, you know, you got me some good books.

And I'm almost done with the first one.

But it's the show of Vince Vaughn.

Why can't I think of it now?

Bad monkey.

Yes.

Thank you.

Yeah, that's the I'm reading the books Because I watched I watched the the TV show and I really liked it I was like usually the books are better.

So I I'm reading The first one, okay, and you know, I kind of did this little sneak peek in the two Cuz I know what happened.

Oh, you

cheat you book cheated.

Well, I know what happens You know, so I just was like I gotta see what's gonna happen in season two and it's gonna be

It's going to be electric.

Really?

Oh, it's going to be

great.

Now, I know you loved bad monkey.

Oh, yeah.

I liked bad monkey.

But I was thinking about this the other day as popular as Vince Vaughn is.

I honestly, I think I like like three things he's done.

And those things that I like, I really like, like I love swingers.

Do you like couples retreat?

Eh.

No.

Love old school.

I love.

Old

school or or swingers is probably my favorite You know Vince Vaughn role I like both of those a lot and I liked him in bad monkey But there was one other film I really liked him in and I can't remember it right now But yeah for is as big a body of work as he has in as much of a presence as he is I don't think he makes great movies.

I You know just don't agree with that you

can fight me.

That's okay,

you know, I I will say this though bad monkey season two

You want to hear how this starts?

Yeah, I do.

Oh It starts with a with a scam a scam artist,

okay,

and it's this girl that gets in the car crashes.

Oh Wow as a scam

as a scam she gets in a you know a little small fender bender,

okay?

It's usually into guys she finds like you know like probably like people who are in their fifties or early forties or and She's shaving something while she's driving

And then her legs the guy notices.

Oh, why is there shaving cream?

Why do you have a razor?

Oh, sorry?

I sense my cars, you know broke.

Can you take me somewhere?

And then the guys are like, of course.

Oh, yeah, we'll take you and it leads right to a scam where they get tied up

But she's shaving, or she's like a woman scaping while

she's

driving.

Yes, she is.

That just seems like a recipe for disaster.

I mean, it is.

I mean, she's purposely crashing, but...

If you have to do that on the way somewhere, you're not allowing yourself enough time

in your life.

You need to schedule yourself better.

Just

listen, I've manscaped on the way to... Just do a job interview.

And not like anybody's gonna see it, but I just like to feel fresh.

You know, does that make sense?

You could always go get a wax.

I could.

No, that sounds good.

All right.

I'm going to look.

I'll watch bad monkey season two.

You kind of got me into the first season and I dug it.

I'm hoping that it comes out soon.

Yeah.

I think so.

They seem like they're putting these things out better.

I'm watching.

I'm not going to tell you.

I'm going to hold on to that one.

But, you know, this weekend is also.

Wait a minute, I was talking about bookstores.

It's Independent Bookstore Day.

Yeah.

And I wanted to make a point about that before we move on.

Barnes & Noble is opening up more stores in an age where nobody reads anymore except you.

And my mom, apparently, my mom is a voracious reader.

I'll tell you this.

I do re- You're only reading bad monkey books.

This is kind of embarrassing, I guess, but I listen to it while I read it.

Wait you listen to the book on tape while you read it?

But they're not the same aren't they abridged?

No, it works out.

Is that right?

Yeah, I listen to it and read it, but you know, why do you do that?

It's cuz if I just want to go if I want to Listen to it on the go in the car.

I can't

oh I okay, so you don't read the book while you have the recording in your ear

You

read it and then you go to the car and you pick up where you left off.

No

You do read it and listen at the same time wow this and that's kind of multitasking But kind of not I'd like to hear the voices

that they come up with.

Yeah, okay

And I

judge

but puts a better picture.

Yeah, that makes sense I'm just more impressed that people are actually still are going apparently According to my sister going back to reading.

Hmm.

Yeah, they're sick of their phones They're sick of having their face and their iPad or computer whatever and they're going back to reading I want to be I desperately want to be one of those people

I don't know if I'll ever get there.

I've read some classic literature.

I was an English major, but I don't know if I'll ever get there.

You know, I have a friend who has a full bookshelf and I go,

be

honest, how many books of these have you read?

And what does he say?

That

one.

There's that one.

I think I'm halfway through that one.

We have a couple bookshelves at home and I'd say I've read probably 90% of them.

But I've saved books.

I've even saved like college books that I had like

textbooks.

Did you have rentals?

Because I've just returned them after.

Well, the ones I bought I kept.

I probably had rentals too.

I don't even know if they did rentals

back then.

I sold them to, you know, the classroom.

You sell

them back to the, that's the way to do

it.

Yeah.

Tomorrow is also Sense of Smell Day.

Did we do a question like that last year around that time?

It kind of came back to me like the worst smells.

Oh, the worst?

Well, why don't we do the...

The best smells, what do you think?

You

could do that.

I love garlic.

Okay, that was good.

I was gonna put that in worst smells, but-

No, I know it's a polarizing smell.

There's

no question about it, but I love the smell of garlic.

Even when people with garlic breath, that doesn't bother me, because I'm happy that they just ate garlic.

If that makes sense.

Not entirely.

I'll

say my worst smells

are public restrooms, obviously.

Yes, I still have a visceral I have a sense of when I was in high school playing sports I still remember

the smell of the boys locker room

and that is If they could weaponize that that could be a weapon for like wartime, yeah, it's awful boys smell terrible at that age All right, hey, we got a fun show Frank Anderson is here tonight.

It's a Barbie on Friday night

And Lisa Hale is here to talk about New Whisco Weekend, a show you have to check out.

This is Pete Schwabbit and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

you

Welcome back to Nightlight.

Peachwaba, ladies and gentlemen.

Our question of the night is, what is your favorite sandwich?

It's national peanut butter and jelly day.

So let us know.

We've had some great texts.

Some sandwiches I'd forgotten about.

But let us know yours.

We break all the big stories here at Nightlight, folks.

We got to give the bottom of the sandwich thing.

Very excited to welcome my next guest.

He is the founder of Wisconsinology.

He's a very accomplished musician, producer, director.

He's done it all when it comes to business animation.

I think he even had his own catering company at some point, folks.

That's how prolific this next guest is.

Mr. Frank Anderson joins us now.

Hey, Frank.

Hey, Pete.

How are you?

Good.

How are you doing, buddy?

Fantastic.

Couldn't be better.

It's good to hear your voice.

You know, we have you on about once a month, typically, but I feel like more time went.

Now, I don't know if you were busy or if you forgot about us because you're too much of a big shot.

I don't know what the deal is, Frank, but it's good to have

you.

That's the deal right there.

I'm just too much of a big shot.

I do big shot stuff all the time.

You can't wait for Wisconsinology, the movie and the book to come out so you could just tell everyone to kiss your ass and take

off.

And

I wouldn't blame you one

bit.

Frank, how are you buddy?

How you been?

Busy, just

busy.

Yeah, good.

Yeah, you're coming attractions on public television and of a new season of director's cut.

Is that right?

Well, we don't really do seasons anymore.

We do specials now I still do all the introduce all the independent lens and POV films, but director's cut is kind of pared down a little bit, but we still do a Film festival episode and the occasional special is about where we're at right now.

Oh Wonderful, I love it.

I watch I do watch it.

You've been on right before I

hosted

Yes, yes,

you were on you were on in the heyday when they still gave signing bonuses and proteums I think

oh It was big time when I was on It was amazing.

I mean I got a cup of tea.

It was wonderful I could snap my fingers he appears just amazing

Hey our question tonight Frank is what is your favorite sandwich?

It is national PB and J days so before we get into the nitty gritty here cheese

Toasted cheese, nice.

Another vote for toasted cheese.

Is that a grilled cheese, right?

Yeah, grilled cheese.

I call it toasted cheese because my grandfather called it toasted cheese and I figure it's from the early days of toasted cheese sandwiches.

Do you want to know, not to disparage your memory or anything, but you know who else called it toasted cheese sandwiches?

Who?

Norman Bates in Psycho 2.

That is so awesome.

That doesn't just spare my memory.

That makes my memory double down in awesomeness.

That makes sure that gives your grandpa all kinds of street cred.

Norman

Bates, who's based on the great Ed Gein.

Yes.

Call them toasted.

I have to watch it again tonight.

Well, it but it was the second one, Frank, because I saw that one and he's like it's right as he lifts the shovel and he says you want some toasted cheese sandwiches.

I think he's talking to his grandma or something.

It's not no, it's not whimsical.

Like

the character is borrowing that term from an older generation.

Sure.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Your grandfather beat him to it, though, I think, or the Hollywood writer to it.

So.

Hey, I thought of you the other day too, because our question was who would you, who was your favorite fictitious political movie character?

And I thought this would be a good one.

I almost made it the question tonight because I thought you could have fun with that one, but do you have a favorite, you know, fictitious political movie character?

I do all the kings and men.

Oh wow.

The movie Ronald Reagan was there.

No, no, that.

Oops, oops, forget it, forget it, wrong movie.

Broderick Crawford and all the King's men played Huey Long, but it's fictitious.

Yeah.

That's my favorite.

Well, the fictitious political movies are the best because it's just whatever the writer says.

There's no gridlock.

Whatever they want and whatever they're feeling and whatever they lean to, yeah.

My favorite was Sorrel Brook as Boss Hogg in the Dukes of Hazard.

I thought he was my favorite.

And it was your favorite, Sheriff.

Boy, that's a good question.

I didn't have to think of that.

He may just not Roscoe.

Roscoe Pico Train.

Yes.

Yeah.

And I liked how he said his name.

He said, Roscoe Pico

Train.

Yeah, he was great.

He played by the great James Best, one of the busiest character actors in Hollywood television history, and the first cousin of the Everly Brothers.

Is that true?

Wow, no kidding.

That is absolutely true.

Oh, I love that.

That's fantastic.

And he plays a musician on the Andy Griffith Show, a traveling musician whose luck is down.

Yeah, I don't you know I've probably seen two episodes of the Andy Griffith show, so I'm not the guy I know It was a little before my time But I all my friends who are older than me in comedy would always be riffing about the Andy Griffith show And I just kind of would nod and smile.

I didn't want them to know

there and riff with them

I couldn't do it.

I was going happy days.

I

know

I'm a kid, Frank.

I mean, these things we bring up most of them are completely forgotten.

So, all right, so I'm excited to have you here.

I want to typically, before you come on the show, Frank, I scroll through, I go to Wisconsinology, I scroll through your Facebook.

You are a great friend slash follow on Facebook.

I don't know that you want more followers because your page is kind of maybe more personal, but

You post such great things on Facebook.

And when we do a quick break here, Frank, I want to come back and I'm going to ask you, this is another thing that will bond us together.

Why you hate lawns?

Oh, it can't wait.

We'll do that.

Frank Anderson is my guest.

We're going to talk about our hatred for lawns.

Welcome back.

This is Nightlight.

I am Pete Schwab.

Great to have you with us.

I guess we've been having some radio problems, but we are still on the stream.

And whatever version of Nightlight you're listening to tonight, folks, it's great to have your ears.

And if you're with us on the stream, our question of the night is, what is your favorite sandwich?

It is National Peanut Butter and Jelly Day.

So there you go.

Tomorrow night on Nightlight, Greg Schwem, syndicated columnist, will join us at 6.35 to make the popcorn pick of the week.

And then the Bucks did a really cool thing last weekend in Milwaukee at the Pfizer.

John Corwin, a guy I know, won this Michelob fan challenge and got to do warmups and be on the court with Brandon Jennings.

So we'll have him on the show tomorrow night to talk a little bit about that experience and

We're gonna talk about a fan in Atlanta who tore his ACL during one of those half-time games.

It's horrible.

It's horrible.

All right, my guest right now is the wonderful Frank Anderson, one of Wisconsin's very own.

He is the founder of Wisconsinology.com, a very accomplished musician.

He often plays with Butch Vig and...

Garbage and the know-it-all boyfriends and he's a producer director of commercials and animation and documentaries He's just a great guy and I'm glad he's with us tonight Frank.

Um Why do you hate

lawns?

I don't play with garbage

No, well, I meant

to

ban

although they just finished a wonderful tour of South America selling out to like 30,000 people tonight, so they're still pretty hot

They're a great band with or without you.

I was misinformed.

I invited you on this show because I thought you were part of Garbage and you joined the show under false pretenses, Frank.

Garbage is irrelevant.

Let's talk about lawns.

Yeah.

What is the deal?

Okay, so you posted on Facebook a friend of yours posted something and you commented it and I think you said, another reason I hate lawns.

Please describe your hatred for lawns.

They're stupid.

They demand your labor.

They demand your neighbor's suspicion and gossip.

They demand endless expense.

And I now know why the most conservative neighbors I have have the most perfect lawns.

Why?

Because a lawn is a monoculture.

And what do conservatives want more than anything?

They want you to believe what they believe.

They want you to think like they think and they want you to live their life and to keep your lawn one and one half inches tall.

It's awful.

And they're butt ugly like golf courses.

I hate golf courses.

Another stupid sport.

People out there, they compete against the worst enemy they'll ever have themselves.

And you're

not going to win that one.

No one wins that battle.

That's a good look.

They require so much water and so much so many chemicals and provide zero benefit to any living creature.

So that's zones really there.

Yeah.

And that's where I agree with you.

I don't I'm not a lawn guy.

You know, I thought, honestly, before we moved back to Wisconsin, I thought, I'm an apartment and condo guy.

That's me.

I have no interest in working in the yard.

I don't care.

I keep the grass cut and it ends there.

I have no, and I only, we only have grass because the house we bought had a lawn.

But I don't mind when people put stones down or make it look nice another way.

I'm kind of with you on the chemicals.

And I know it makes us sound like communists, but I'm with you.

I can't even begin to name how many people I knew who were back in the 80s happily spraying Roundup all over the damn place.

And well, David's not with us anymore.

No shit, you know?

All right Frank so all right we've established that we're both the same way on lawn and I agree I think it's a weird it's like you know just make yourself look presentable the lawn is irrelevant

well I just yeah I just moved you know I moved to a smaller house I moved two blocks from my previous house oh and what happens in this new house I went from a postage size perfect sort of lawn which is more clover than anything and now I have a lawn you know smaller house bigger lawn

but I'm, I'm destroying that lawn.

That lawn is coming down.

It's going to be bricked over.

There's going to be flowers everywhere.

It's going.

Oh, that's funny.

I'll help you.

You just let me know and I'm in the car in, in, in moments.

There's going to be some heavy ditch digging this summer.

Absolutely.

So, all right.

So another thing you posted about, you just did a simple RIP regarding Val Kilmer.

I think one of... Oh, wow.

Yeah.

You know, what a...

I mean, there's all these stories about him and how he was difficult and whatever.

Who cares?

He never heard anything too horrible.

The guy made phenomenal movies.

And if a movie was mediocre, he elevated it.

I am a huge Val Kilmer fan.

What are your thoughts on his legacy?

I'm

a massive Val Kilmer fan.

Yeah.

And when I first saw him play a doc holiday in Tombstone, I said to myself, you know, I could watch this movie over and over.

And guess what?

It hasn't been off the air since it came out in 1994.

You know, AMC played it day after day after day, then TNT, then every station, then every network since.

You cannot spin the... I'm not going to use these old words.

You can't get the remote out and go through the stations without running into Toonstone.

It's amazing.

And it's

because of his performance.

Absolutely.

You're right.

The movie's fine.

It's a good movie, but he just takes it to another level.

Did you see, let's talk about Top Secret, Frank, a movie that Three Wisconsin... Oh, I

remember seeing

that, yes.

Yeah.

Three Wisconsin comedy geniuses behind that one, too.

Jim Abraham's and the Zucker Brothers.

Absolutely.

Who came out of a wonderful Kentucky Fried Theater in Madison, Wisconsin, and went out west and became major

Interesting story.

So one of them came back to direct lottery commercials in Wisconsin, the one series of lottery commercials.

And they employed their usual Abraham Zucker humor, right?

Which

is funny.

They did the one, they did a lottery commercial where the Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra gets into a snowball fight.

Right.

And it's funny.

And there is mayhem.

And yes, there's a little bit of mild violence.

What happens right after they air it?

What?

A flood of negative phone calls about, you know, he's just throwing a snowball at somebody and, you know, that's too violent.

Do they

have to

be so, you know, it goes to show no matter what you do, you'll get, you'll get blowback of some kind.

Absolutely.

But not.

Not not the wonderful physical humor that that always bothers me

He he was so good too, and I don't know if you saw a movie called kill the Irishman Very I did not all very underrated movie the star of it is a guy I can't I think his name is like Ray Stevenson not a huge name But he surrounded him he's surrounded in this movie by Val Kilmer Christopher Walken and Vincent Donofrio And it's a great mob movie.

I think it's set in Cleveland

But Kilmer always stood out in that movie, and I loved him in Real Genius, which was his second movie ever, I think, after Top Secret.

That is a great movie.

And have you seen Kiss, Kiss, Bang Bang?

I have, but not for years.

Yeah, he was great in that,

too.

Yeah.

And

he's pretty big role in Heat, directed by a UW grad, Michael Mann.

Michael Mann.

What about did you see him in?

What's the name?

What's the movie I'm thinking about you said heat?

Oh My god, oh the doors.

He was Jim Morrison.

Oh the doors.

I mean he became Jim Morrison.

Yeah Another one too.

I thought like the movie was okay, but he was

Dr. Murrow

Yeah, I saw that years ago

the movie in which you have to surrender to Marlon Brando's madness.

Yes

Did you that movie is so wonderfully weird and the documentary of the making of is one of the greatest making of ever

I Didn't see that Frank, but I saw that I shared this story earlier on the show when we first got on the air

I don't know if you heard this.

Maybe it's in the documentary.

I just found it on the internet.

It says, due to Marlon Brando's infamous large appetite and dislike of Val Kilmer on set, he would request and eat large amounts of cabbage an hour before a scene started and would silently fart on purpose numerous times to leave what was described as a foul stench that would annoy Kilmer.

What kind of behavior is that?

Wonderful behavior.

We need more of it.

That's brilliant.

I mean, Brando makes me laugh.

He doesn't care anymore.

He's seen it all.

He's done it all.

It's all BS.

Showbiz is 100% BS.

Why

are we in it?

I don't know.

What else are we going to do?

Yeah, but it's not worth taking really seriously.

Brando was done.

He was having fun and his eccentric performance.

You have to watch

it.

Yeah, I do have to watch it because I kind of remember seeing the movie, but I kind of don't, which tells me I probably didn't see it all the way through.

Frank Anderson is my guest.

He is the founder of Wisconsinology.com.

All things Wisconsin folks, it's got weird stuff, historical stuff, fun stuff.

It's a great site.

Check it out.

He joins us here over the phone tonight on the nightlight.

Hey, I wanted to ask you, too, Frank, did you see the sly and the family stone documentary on Hulu?

No, I did not.

Oh, you'll have to see that.

And I'd love to discuss that with you.

What a visionary he was.

Oh, yeah, yeah, just as a very young man producing America's immediate answer to the Beatles was the Bo Brunnels.

who's two hit songs, just a little and laugh, laugh, hit the top 20, flystone produced them and gave them that great big bass drum kick that had not been really heard on the radio at that time.

Right.

Yeah, it's just a great... I mean, you'll have to check it out and next time you're on, we'll discuss it, but I didn't realize at the time how...

how ahead of his time he was.

And they made, and I forget this, because again, it was before my time, but he had men and women, black and white, like his band just looked, so it was great.

He had all these different people in, and it was like ahead of its time.

And I didn't realize he was such an influence on France and David Byrne.

I remember them as being very, the standard, I mean, that was normal for that one year that everyone got away.

Got away with it when Hollywood didn't know what the hell was going on and the record companies didn't know what was going on 1969 I'm talking about where they were signing everybody with long hair in sight and green lighting any movie that was counterculture That's one great year.

Everything looked like sly and the family stone

So cool.

All right, well, we'll do that next time you're here.

What we'll discuss that but I want to ask you

We probably have a couple of minutes before break.

I think we can get this in, but kiss.

You all, so this is one of your social media is something that obviously irritated you.

Kiss is hiring people.

No, they're not hiring people.

They're leasing out rodeo or rodeo positions to fans and making fans pay to be their rodeo.

What is going on there, Frank?

What kind of person with no

No, no, no feeling of himself whatsoever would do that with zero self respect.

You would gladly pay 15 grand to carry Gene Simmons crap around.

I hate raging bands.

I wish it all just go away and I'm one of them.

You're still doing OK.

I'm sick of it.

And why are people going to see them?

Right?

Oh, I got to see them before they die.

That's the only reason.

They should all go away with that.

I've heard their songs enough.

I'm with you.

Frank Anderson is here, folks.

We'll have a couple more minutes with Frank when we get back.

He's going to tell us about a really cool charity concert they do.

We'll have a couple more minutes with Frank, and we'll finish up reading your texts when we come back.

This is Night Light with Pee Chwama on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Welcome back.

We're on the home stretch here at Nightlight.

I am Pete Schwab.

Great to have you with me on this Wednesday night.

We have a few more minutes with our friend Frank Anderson, who is on the line.

A couple texts here.

Dave on the stream says, this is answering last night's question, which fictitious political character.

Dave says, Dave, Kevin Klein is the president's doppelganger.

He fills in because the president is in a coma.

I remember that movie and I actually thought of it yesterday.

And I was surprised, uh, K-man, that nobody said Dave last night.

We had so many great texts and so many different fictitious characters, but nobody said Dave.

Um, and then Scott in the 608 says, Hi, movie nerding, brotherly love, great effort to celebrate brother's love, our packers getting brother to Hall of Fame.

But the great, wait a minute.

What the hell does that mean?

Is that the Vinacy interview, Conrad?

We had Sam Venezian last a couple nights ago Frank.

He's trying to get his brother Jack into the

NFL hall of

fame That might be what he's referring to he says but the greatest movie of brotherly love and it has a Wisconsin connection with a Kenosha native Mark Ruffalo is the beautiful and wonderful brothers bloom We've talked about that Frank, haven't we?

Yes, we did we did and we talked about the only regret in my life which was

not seeing, even though I was filming in New York City, and Tony Shalu, Wisconsin guy, Green Bay guy, and Mark Ruffalo were appearing sold out in Death of a Salesman on Broadway.

Nice.

Wow.

I was going to go see him in full Green Bay garb and everything.

That's Wisconsin representing right there even and including

yourself

if you had put on the packer sweatpants

I mean, I literally stood on Broadway and said who owns you

I Would have paid to see that Hey

Actually, we do I believe they were playing at the Lunt fader, which is named after Alfred Lunt America's greatest stage actor

with Wisconsin

ties, correct?

Yeah.

Everything we talk about here has a Wisconsin tie.

Let's be honest.

We have a couple more minutes.

Frank, tell us about Joey's song.

I know we're a ways away, but let's start talking about that because I got a great

benefit for epilepsy.

Joey is the name.

Mike Gamal founded Joey's song.

His son is Joey.

Joey died from this disease.

And he, Mike, created this wonderful charity that began with hitmaker Freedia Johnston singing in a bowling alley and passing the hat.

And pretty soon Butch Big got involved in garbage, got involved in, uh, Phil Asylum got involved in the bangles and everybody, all kinds of bands, Portugal the man.

So many, so many, go to joeysong.org and you get the whole story.

It has now expanded into a week-long concert event with even a comedy stage, which I happily played in the backup band with Wayne White and Joel Hodgson, who are a Joel Hodgson, MS3, TK, right?

Mystery Science Theater, yeah.

Yes, the man who created it, Joel and Wayne.

And Wayne did design the sets for Pewey's Playhouse and so much more.

And great artists, great American.

But as a duo, they're funnier than hell on stage and we back them up.

But I work the whole week.

The stages are busy.

The Sylvie Center in Madison, Wisconsin is where it is centered around.

So within a few blocks of that theater,

You can see countless major, major acts, and I hear they have some really big surprises coming up this year.

I cannot wait.

Let's do something before.

I think last year, it's right after the holidays, and I think that's what messed me up because I missed it.

It's early January.

Okay.

So, yeah, this year we'll have to get, I'll reach out ahead of time and we'll do something because I remember going to the website.

and reading about your friend, and it just looks like such a, and it looks like a great time, a great, a phenomenal cause, but also a great time too, so we'll definitely get on

that this year.

It's a wonderful time, and it's so celebratory, and everyone there is doing what young musicians, there's a lot of them, and us older musicians should be doing, which is playing for a cause and not asking people to carry our crap around for $12,000.

Well,

the thing is too, Frank,

You might be an older musician, but you're not crabby and you don't have a lawn that you can tell kids to get off of.

So I think you're doing

okay.

Buddy, thank you so much.

As always, we will talk again soon and keep putting out amazing posts.

I love reading your stuff on social media.

So much fun.

Well, thanks so much.

I'll see you soon, I hope.

Okay, Frank.

Break a leg.

Okay.

That is Frank Anderson.

Check out Wisconsinology.com.

Great guy and a great site, especially if you're proud of your state and you want to learn more about it.

Frank finds a way to tie everything in the universe to Wisconsin and he does it brilliantly.

So check that out.

Conrad, what's, I feel like, are we forgetting something?

You know, you said you were going to give a second sandwich, right?

I thought about giving a second sandwich too and I have one.

Oh,

really?

Ruben's

great.

Oh a nice pastrami sandwich for me.

What kind of similar but Yeah, that's a great one too, and I like I got a text my wife I don't think she got through in the text line, but she said Mary said a juice burger in Oshkosh at Leon's so those of you listening in Oshkosh I'm sure you know what we're talking about.

It's Leon's It's they have great custard and phenomenal juice burgers, which is basically a sloppy joke

How did I not think of burger as a sandwich?

It's holding it right now.

Well, you know.

What

taco?

I changed all

of my answers to a great Wisconsin burger.

Ah, that's no fun.

It started with peanut butter and jelly.

We can tie a peck to that.

Thanks for listening to Nightlight.

We'll be right back with Lisa Hale and Terry

Barr.

Stubborn sky please tell us why you had to

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a guy who doesn't have 20-20 vision, even in hindsight, Pete Chwaba.

Welcome back to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

kicking off our number two here on a Friday night.

It is a bar band Friday night as it is every Friday here on Nightlight.

Terry Barr will be along shortly with a guest that is going to be officially the youngest guest I've ever had on Nightlight.

She will be here in the studio performing.

So stick around for that.

That's coming up in just a few minutes.

We do not have a question tonight because it's kind of a best of.

We've put stuff together because Conrad is on vacation.

I hope he's taking care of himself.

Lisa, what do you think?

Do you think Conrad is being responsible?

It's the NFL Draft Week.

There's no way Conrad is being responsible.

He's not.

He's out there.

He's all about the draft right now.

Listen, he won't be up enough.

He won't be up early enough to hear New WISCO Weekend.

So I think you can say whatever you want about him here in this segment.

That is.

He won't be.

That is the voice of the host of New WISCO Weekend and Civic Media's Northeast Wisconsin Bureau Chief, Lisa Hale, who joins me now on Nightlight.

It's been too long, my friend.

It has been.

It's been way too long.

How are you doing?

I'm doing very well.

I look at what you just did.

You just kind of, you just hosted me because now you're used to hosting and I love

that.

I'm so used to hosting and I'm so used to being the one who gets people to talk to me that it's weird being on this side.

I'm an open book.

Even though this is nightlight, you can ask me if you want to play host for a minute, you can ask me anything.

That could be a new segment we could do so.

So Pete, have you been taking part in the NFL draft activities?

No, I ran a seven nine forty.

So it turns out there wasn't much interest in my qualifications to be drafted.

So I'm going to set this one out, but there's still hope for free agency.

We'll see what happens.

And what is that that sport that you invented?

Naked soccer golf.

Wait, did I do a thing on that?

I think I did, didn't I?

Oh my gosh.

At least when you drop as much gold as I do, it's impossible to remember all of it.

So I actually, I would play naked soccer golf if I could find other willing participants, but I think it could be fun.

But I'd probably be picky about who I would want to see naked.

Like we all would,

yeah.

I would be very picky on who I would

be

playing with.

Yeah.

And I say that fully understanding no one wants to see me naked.

So let's just do soccer golf.

Let's keep things simple and PG rated.

Hey, it is great to have you here.

Thank you.

How are things at Newisco weekend?

I'm telling you, they have been going so great.

You mentioned that you have Terry Barr coming on a little bit later on.

And I have to say this, she's my partner for New WISCO weekend.

She's great.

She and I work in tandem.

If I don't have the cover story, she does.

If she has the cover story, then I open the issue with a feature story and we switch back and forth.

She is just phenomenal.

I absolutely adore her and I could not do it without her.

So I just wanted to say that since she's going to be on here in a little bit

so you

can tell her just how much that I talk her up.

I will.

She's fantastic.

Well, everybody does, right?

I mean, I'm doing this in Madison right now.

And, you know, I know how much Terry Bar loves Barband Friday night.

It was named after Terry Bar.

And she said,

you

know, can I be on the stream?

I'm too busy.

And I was like, you live in Madison.

You love the site.

But that's how busy she is.

She does everything.

So she'll still

be

here over the stream, and it'll be great.

And we'll have Paige in the studio performing.

And Terri is just an absolute treasure.

So we're both lucky to have her as part of our shows.

I love being part of New Isco Weekend.

I love picking the movies.

And yeah, it's so much fun.

You know you know that I absolutely love your segment because you and I have such similar tastes in movies and the one you picked for this episode of new whiskey weekend is one of my favorites, of course and I've watched it so many times I actually think it's the best of all of them of this topic

site totally

involving Hannibal Lecter, you mean?

Yes.

Yes.

Brian Cox is so amazing and creepy in just a few minutes of screen time.

You know, Hopkins did great.

Yeah.

It was a fantastic lecture.

But this was the first time you ever see Hannibal Lecter on screen.

And he just did him so well,

so

creepy, so just understated.

And I really do like that.

I like it much better than Red Dragon, which was the remake

with Edward Norton.

I agree 100 percent.

Yeah.

And like I'm with you.

I like Silence of the Lambs, but I felt like it was so overt and it was still creepy.

It was still scary.

There was a lot of shock value.

There wasn't as much shock value in Manhunter.

It had an overall eeriness to it, though, that I just loved.

And I love William Peterson, the stuff he did younger in his career when he was younger.

It's just fantastic.

So what else do you have coming up this weekend at New Wisco?

Well,

it's all about superheroes

and New

Wisco weekend this week, because Monday, the 28th is National Superhero Day.

So we wanted to celebrate the everyday heroes and superheroes.

We've got...

Our cover story is a Wisconsin author who lists 100 Wisconsin idols.

We

have a

story about the Red Cross looking for nominations for their heroes ceremony that they do every year where they acknowledge somebody who's done wonderful things in their community.

We've got that.

We've got

a story from Conrad on the Green Bay optimists, which I think are superheroes because they help pilot programs for youth.

So, you know, we can, we can take anything and flip it to be

super.

I hope he already turned it in though, and you're not expecting it Saturday morning after.

No, I've already turned everything.

That is fantastic.

You had 7,000 apart on recently.

I love that you had a musical act on a show that's on kind of earlier.

Aren't they great?

They've been on Nightlight several times.

They're so much fun.

We have a musical guest on every single new WISCO weekend.

We end the show with a musical guest and this week it's one who did a song on Superhero and how you can be

the brave superhero of your own life.

So we've got that.

What is the name of that band, Gin Chocolate and Bottle Rockets?

Oh, yeah.

So that's

going to be

our musical feature this week.

We we've always got a musical feature, whether it comes from civic media has such a wide variety of shows.

And we can get musical features that have maybe been on my know in the mayor or that have maybe been on, you know,

mad radio, or maybe have been on your show.

You never know where the musical group is going to come from.

That's very true.

All right, so let's get a quick, my guest is Lisa Hale.

She is the Northeast Wisconsin Bureau Chief of Pacific Media, and she hosts the news magazine program here in Northeast Wisconsin called New Whisko Weekend, which is outstanding.

It runs two times every weekend.

So definitely check it out if you haven't already.

Next week.

This is exciting.

I know you and Todd Michaels, the producer of Mino and the Mayor, and as a side hustle, he is a paranormal investigator, which I think is so cool.

You're doing a paranormal theme next week.

Yeah, next week's theme is paranormal, but it's also tourism and bike month.

And we wanted to get it all in there.

But I definitely need to get in touch with Todd because we got to write that paranormal story.

And believe me, I'm going to be, you know,

leaning in on him for that.

I'm just going to say something.

I hope you don't take this the wrong way, Liz.

You seem like the most on top of everything person I've ever met.

Honestly, the reminders I get from you, there's no way I could ever forget a new WISCO Weekend deadline because Conrad reminds me, but I get the emails from you.

Honest to God.

you know I forgot about a meeting last week and it was in my calendar but like if enough time goes by you can forget stuff like you are on it like if I had something to do I would give it to you and I know what we get done.

Yeah and that's that's pretty much what Todd says too.