Don’t use those Bumper Stickers (Hour 1)

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Don’t use those Bumper Stickers (Hour 1)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Fri Apr 18, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba, your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

A guy who has a black and white plasma TV, Pete Schwabba.

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Welcome.

Tonight, ladies and gentlemen, it is a Friday night in the state of Wisconsin.

You could be doing a lot worse.

Great to have you with me on this Friday night as we plow into the weekend a pre-NFL draft weekend, which, you know, to other people in the state, probably I think it's recognized as a cool thing, but I don't know.

If people realize how much is going to change our lives here in Northeast Wisconsin Even like in an hour radius even in some cases more Hotel rooms will be booked up there will be parking issues and so much so that I will be headed to Madison for a couple nights to do the show down there because it will just be easier to to get around but We've got one more normal weekend next weekend will be crazy, but it'll be kind of fun if you live in Northeast, Wisconsin We'll talk a little bit about the draft tonight with our first guest

I kind of buried the lead there because we're going to talk about the draft.

I'm going to ask Emerson Layman, one of the co-hosts of the WBAY Morning Show here in Green Bay, what his plans for the draft will be and what he thinks about it.

But Conrad, you know the main reason tonight we're having Emerson on the show.

Lay it on me.

Pickleball?

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Pickleball, baby.

Emerson was in Marinette last weekend.

He sent me a text saying, hey, as promised, I'm letting you know I'm in Marinette.

So I went there, got a bunch of footage.

We played it.

Some soundbites, I should say.

And we played it.

Emerson sounded like he was having a great time.

So he's coming on tonight.

He's going to be here at 635 to give us an in-person recap of his time in my hood.

It was great to have him there.

He looked like he was having a ball.

Everyone looked like they were having fun.

I could not believe how crowded, and it's not a little rec center.

It's good size for Marinette, but it's not humongous by rec center standards, but it was packed.

And pickleball, ladies and gentlemen, is the sport of the future.

John Cusack in Say Anything said, kickboxing was the sport of the future.

I think pickleball has taken over, and I think you're less likely to be concussed.

Emerson will be here at 635.

We've got a pickleball quiz for Emerson.

He's going to talk about how he did in the tournament.

I still don't know how he did.

I know there was a pro there that Emerson told me was really hard to beat.

So we'll find out how the pro did.

We'll find out how Emerson did.

It's going to be a great conversation.

And then if we have time, I have a little game I created called This Just In or This Just In.

And I'm going to give a new story and Emerson will have to decide if it's fake or real.

It's going to be fun.

So Emerson's got his work cut out for him tonight.

He's going to leave here mentally exhausted Conrad.

Well, he's got some songs to look forward to in the second hour.

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That's true.

Is he going to stay for that?

I mean, he could, but

he certainly can.

He can also listen on his drive back.

That

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will mellow him out.

Yeah, exactly.

And I think my goal is for him to leave here.

I want this to be kind of an escape for him because he works very hard at his job.

Tonight he's going to have to put his sticky cap on, but it'll be fun.

No pressure.

And then, ladies and gentlemen, it is Friday night on Nightlight.

And you know what that means.

It is a bar band Friday night, our friend Terry Barr from Max Ink Radio.

One of the brilliant hosts of Max Ink Radio drops by with new tunes and fun chat every week.

We look forward to spending time with Terry.

It's so much fun.

So you're here on a good night.

We've got a lot going on and some big changes here too, folks at Civic Media.

Not huge changes, but as many of you may or may probably know by now, Dhamma Salvia.

The Dhamma Salvia show is no longer with the network, but it was all good.

Parting was friendly.

Dhamma's doing other things, but that caused a little bit of a shuffle.

So starting next Wednesday,

From 5 a.m.

To 6 a.m.

It'll be the Midwest farm report with Pam Jank Pam Yankee.

I said Yankee.

I know Pam Yankee.

That's such a cool.

It's kind of exotic

It's like the

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anti Schwabba

having that silent J's,

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you know, it's kind of cool.

It's really cool.

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Is she from Iceland?

That's a good question because my friend Thor Johnson was actually Janssen and it was with a J that is cool very cool

And maybe they're friends.

Love Pam.

She does a great job.

She'll be on from 5 to 6 a.m.

And then from 6 to 9 on the network, Pat Crichtlow will be on, powered by Up North News.

Pat is a blast to listen to.

Informative, fun, smart, great stuff.

However, in local markets, John and Gordy will still be on at WMDX, Mornings in Madison, and Arpal's Mino and the Mayor will still be on here in Green Bay and Northeast Wisconsin.

Mino and the Mayor will still continue from 6 to 9.

From 9 to 11, it's Matt Narenair with Jane, Matt Naren, Greg Bach.

11 to 2 will be the Tom Hartman program.

Tom is coming back during daylight hours on the network from 11 to 2.

2 to 4, it's the Todd Alba show.

4 to 6, you got Maggie Dawn.

And then 6 to 8, we are still where we are at Nightlight with Pete Schwabba will continue in that time

slot.

The John and Gordy and Mino the Mayor stay at the same time.

Yeah.

Yep.

WGBWW ISS for Mino the Mayor.

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Did I not say that?

I thought I

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said things that stay the same in Madison and Green Bay

with John and

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Gordy.

Yeah.

Thank you for your meticulous.

Just making sure.

No, you're not Conrad.

You're busting my chops.

And you know what?

Take a memo.

Oh.

No, I appreciate you.

I appreciate the backup.

So that's good.

All good.

John and Gordy still kicking things around in Madison in the morning and Mino in the mirror.

So none of that changes, but great things happening here at Civic Media.

And that was supposed to come out as a joke, but I think it was kind of hard on you there.

I apologize for

that.

You said take a memo.

I'm waiting for the memo.

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How about dropping give me 20?

How does that sound?

I'm writing that down.

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You know, I got so excited yesterday gelato next door There's a whole bunch of activity over there, and I thought I'm gonna get some Friday night gelato They're open and it's like close for construction remember last year They were doing that construction and we could hear banging and sawing all

through the show.

What are

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they remodeling already?

Yeah, you know, I didn't think they would actually take off that whole winter I thought they were gone, but they just took off the winter months and now they're coming back

So it's only it's a

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summer only business.

Yeah, cuz I don't think they can or they don't think Pete I would go for some occasional winter gelato.

I love their coffee there.

So I probably

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coffee gelato

or coffee.

I'm glad they kind of shut down for a while.

It didn't spend so much money on

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it's a $5 coffee

It

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is expensive.

I here's what I've decided Let's do first.

Let's do the question because I think this is important We got a good question tonight and for the it this is inspired

You remember last night when Mike Clemens was here?

I said that like it was a long time ago.

Yeah, I

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remember.

I was cracking up all night that that just came out of the blue that he wrote the song Pacarena.

That's just so bizarre.

That's awesome.

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It is awesome.

And Jane McNair was singing it.

It was just a funny story of the guy said, have it done by the end of the day.

And he wanted to get to his tea time.

He wanted to get to his tea time.

And they did it and they still made their tea time.

Now, don't.

Panic, it's not like they mailed it in.

This song is quality, and they wrote great lyrics and still made their tea time, which is awesome, but it inspired tonight's question of the night.

Let's talk about the question.

OK, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

OK, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

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What is your favorite sports-related song?

What is your favorite sports related song?

Mike Clemens inspired 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 Civic or you can text us on the app or on the stream if you're watching on YouTube X Twitter Is it X Twitter?

It's Twix.

It's Twix.

Oh, yeah, I forgot.

I

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forgot about Twix.

Thanks to Todd Alba.

Yeah Or Facebook

So if you're watching on the stream you can text us on the stream use the Facebook app It's so easy and you probably all have it after our last awesome contest our break into summer contest which was a big success or Old school pick up your phone and text away at eight five five seven five two four eight four two I'm gonna go first my favorite sports related song just because I was a former Chicago Bulls partial season ticket holder During the Jordan years, so I got to say I in the sky the intro when they would announce the team it was

majestic, it was spine-tingling, it was incredible.

So that is my favorite sports-related song.

There are so many, though.

These are all inspired by the Pacarano.

Thanks to Mike Lemons.

And Jane McNair.

What's your favorite, Conrad?

You got a favorite?

God, that's

just a little obnoxious.

It's not even a song!

Bang on the

drum all day.

It's

a song.

For the Green Bay Packers.

I've heard of them.

Or like the Go-Pack Go chant slash song.

No, no, no, no, no.

Bang on the drum is much better.

Yeah, it's so good.

Go-Pack Go is just a chant.

There's music behind it.

Exactly.

You know it.

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That should win a whammy.

Uh, is that your favorite bang on the drum?

Yeah, I love that song.

I get that.

Okay.

That's a fun one.

I can, I can transport myself to the body of a Packer fan and I could say, yeah, I'd probably really enjoy that.

Um, we got some texts.

Oh, we got to read Luke Mather's text last night because our song last night or our question last night was who was your favorite solo artist, musical solo artist?

And Luke Mathers, we missed this text right at the end of the show.

He said, the White Stripes Seven Nation Army transports me back to the student section for a Saturday game day at Camp Randall Stadium.

I don't think I know that song, but I must have heard it because I've been to Badger

games.

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That's interesting.

You know what?

Jump around is up there too.

I mean, yeah, that was a close second for me.

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That's a great song with or without sports.

Yeah.

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So, thank you, Luke.

Matt Harper says, Bruce Springsteen, glory days, phenomenal one.

Well done, Matt.

Yeah, I love that tune.

Eric Rathsack from Ask Your Mother says, put me in coach John Fogarty, or relatively unknown song called Beat the Record by the Warren Brothers.

Oh,

I

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don't know

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that song either.

Put me in coach is a great, actually, I think it's called Center Field, but it's a great tune.

Good baseball song.

Lots of great baseball songs.

Oh, yes.

I'm trying to think of one.

I'll get back to you on which one I really

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like.

Yeah, I need a good baseball song from Conrad.

Mike Desatelle also says, Glory Days, Springsteen.

It's funny because that's, it's just, again, it's just a great song and they talk about a guy who was a great pitcher in high school.

So it's funny that you equate that with sports and they also sang it at the Super Bowl during the halftime show and that was phenomenal.

Um, I think streets have no name.

You too.

A lot of people think Prince had the best halftime show.

For me, it was you too after 9-11 when they had that banner going up with all the names of the 9-11 victims and they were singing streets have no name.

I don't think of that as a sports song, but I do now because of that Super Bowl performance.

Maybe the same thing with Glory days.

All right, we're coming back.

We're going to read some more texts and, uh, we're going to talk some more pickleball.

What's going on here tonight?

You're here on a great night, folks.

It's a Friday nightlight edition with Pete Schwabba.

Great to have you on the Civic Media

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started.

Great show tonight.

Emerson Lehman coming up in just a few minutes.

He is the morning show host at WBAY here in Green Bay, and he is an avid and very talented pickleball player.

It is also a bar band Friday night.

So Terry Barr from Max, Inc.

Radio, our Friday night friend will be here to bring some new tunes and and dazzle us with our conversation skills because she's always so much fun to talk to.

Our question of the night.

Is what is your favorite sports related song?

So it's kind of a You know, it's kind of a there's those Like somebody said does this count?

Glory days, I think it wasn't yeah if you associated with sports or if you hear it at your stadium or as part of this opening starting lineups, whatever absolutely There are no rules to this as per usual.

So let us know what your favorite sports song is I said I in the sky by Alan Parsons project

from my days going to see the Bulls play at the Chicago Stadium.

Chicago Stadium and then the United Center and the place would just rock.

House of Pains jump around is right up there too.

Conrad's is bang on the drum.

Is that the actual title?

Bang on the drum, right?

Okay.

That's a good one too.

So what are your favorite sports songs?

PJ on the stream says, oh yeah, House of Pains, jump around.

UW Badgers hands down.

Tough to argue with that.

And then PJ says, does wild thing count?

Absolutely.

Because it was in the movie.

It was, I almost said just a bit outside.

It was in Major League.

That absolutely counts, PJ.

That's a great one.

So let us know yours.

We'll read it on the radio and it will be great fun.

Monica from Mount Horrib says, was going to say Boys of Summer.

But that's a sports song in name only.

So you know what?

I kind of disagree with you, Monica.

But Boys of Summer, it is a sports term.

Yeah, it's not a support song.

I assume you're talking about the Don Hanley version.

But that is such an amazing song about the end of summer.

Nobody on the beach, nobody on the road, the sun goes down alone.

God, great tune.

If anything, thank you for making me think of that song, Monica.

But yeah, gonna fly now from Rocky, another phenomenal one.

Tony the trucker says, Pete, the bears still suck by the happy schnapps combo.

You know what, Tony?

I've had about enough of your crap.

Conrad, you're not chiming in there.

I don't know what to say anymore.

That's what I get for hosting a radio show on Wisconsin.

I'm bound to hear that.

That's fine, Tony.

And the Bears have sucked for a long time.

I can't really argue with that.

I will say I've never heard of the happy schnapps combo, though, but I love that name.

Conrad's dad, Steve says, all time greatest is gonna fly now.

Another vote for gonna fly now, the theme from Rocky.

Could not agree more.

Paula, Conrad's mom checking in.

We are the champions.

Yeah, another big one.

That might be the most famous one.

Or we will rock you.

All great stuff.

So keep those texts coming, folks.

Be part of the show.

It's always more fun that way.

I will say, driving down here tonight, I always have an issue.

I could complain every night about other drivers, but I only do it like four nights a week because I don't want people to get sick of it.

But I found out something tonight.

I was driving down here, and you know those Calvin peeing stickers that people put on their cars?

It's just a cute kid and one of the cutest cartoons ever Calvin and Hobbes and they've completely made it into this weird thing where angry people put a sticker of Calvin pissing on something Yeah, that they don't like and I here's here's what I have surmised from seeing these stickers on these cars

The stickers are douchey.

The cars are douchey, typically, that they're on.

And the people inside, same.

I don't want to be friends with people who think it's cool to put a Calvin peeing on some.

Regardless, whether he's peeing on Trump or some kind of liberal thing or whatever, if you have completely cheapened this awesome cartoon and you have Calvin peeing as a sticker on your car, regardless of what he is peeing on, I know that we probably wouldn't be friends.

What do you think about that, Conrad?

Well, all right, so

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you have one of those stickers on your

car No, but I know this I follow this page on Instagram that's they have this it's it's all about a Packers like man cave that they have in the basement,

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okay?

And they have three Kelvin pissing in their toilet, okay, and it's all of them like pissing out like The bears bears

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Vikings

Okay, haha, but I mean It's one thing to put it in that I guess mostly it's in the car.

Why would you you're driving around with

yeah?

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Broadcasting what an idiot you are.

Yeah, I don't like it on the car on the toilet It's kind of funny cuz I mean it's just in the toilet.

No one can see unless you're there But why Calvin?

That's what I love that cartoon.

Why would you do that?

You know, there's a lot of spin-offs with Calvin Wow, where does it come from?

I just think it was a really popular cartoon, and they just were like, let's make Calvin do something different.

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But I've never seen a sticker of Charlie Brown flipping people off.

You haven't?

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Just gave you an idea.

Here's what Tyler from Wisconsin Rapid says.

That's also the 608 he says, I don't want to pickle.

I just want to ride my motorcycle by Arlo Guthrie.

What the heck is pickleball?

Oh, Tyler, you have to stick around.

See time only Tyler

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and how

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perverse his text can be sometimes.

I thought

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he meant

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pickle like in a naughty way or something Yeah, our local three, that's awesome We'll tell you you got to stick around cuz you're gonna learn a lot about pickleball with our next guest who's coming up in just a few minutes Emerson layman will be here.

That's gonna be fun.

So anyway, we've established that I don't like that I don't like that sticker.

I had

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to get that off my chest

speaking of stickers.

Yeah

You know, I told you this yesterday, which when I was coming to coming to work, coming to the studio, not even leaving my apartment building in the apartment building, you know, a complex eight miles per hour.

That's how fast speed limit in there or whatever.

Right.

Someone flying by me doing nine and I get to the stop sign at the end of the road.

It says caution, elderly driver.

And then another sticker says caution, slow driver.

Like what?

So who passed you?

It wasn't elderly.

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It

was not an elderly woman.

All right.

She had to be in her mid twenties.

How ironic going 20 miles through the complex.

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I think they need to need to bring the hammer down on some of those residents flying through because I've done that in this parking garage over here where it's also eight.

There must have been a Green Bay City Council meeting where they said, all right, I think we can all agree eight miles per hour in parking lots.

That's not sex.

That's

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sex.

They have done studies and data shows.

There are fewer accidents if the speed limit is eight.

All right, folks, lots of fun tonight.

It's a barband Friday night.

We got a great question.

What's your favorite sports related song?

No rules.

Just have fun with it.

Let us know.

And Emerson Layman from the WBAY morning show, and he is a killer pickleball player too.

And we're going to come out.

We're going to mentally exhaust Emerson tonight.

That's coming up next on Nightlight with Peach Waba on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

you

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Great to have you with me.

Here's Anna from Madison in the six oh eight said hi Pete and Conrad my favorite sports song is enter Sandman by Metallica is that the one that goes?

And is that the one that said they go?

exit light Yeah, is that that was his severance, and it was really cool, and I hadn't heard that song in 20 years

You just sang it pretty well, though.

I was good at pipes, buddy.

I believe it.

Listen, pickleball is your thing.

I'm a crooner.

That's the voice of Emerson Lehman, who joins us now in the studio.

He is the host of the WBA Y Morning News Show and a great pickleball player.

We're going to get into all that.

It is great to have you here in the studio as always.

I was so excited when I got the text from you saying, hey, let's have you on to talk about Marinette.

Absolutely, my friend.

I always have

to be here.

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And you were so gracious.

Like I asked you.

About you know, and you said you've been there many times actually

I was trying to think about that after we after we talked I think that was my fourth or fifth time up there out of

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the

seven tournaments that they've done So yeah,

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I've

been there.

I I remember my first trip up there I was working down in Milwaukee and I drove up on a Friday night to play singles and drove back that

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Wow

and Brian and Kim Swenson who run the tournament they just left an incredible impression on me

from that one trip.

And then now I get to see them weekly playing in the

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groups around

Green Bay.

So yeah, great people, great tournament, always a fun time.

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So you said that the other day, too, when I was interviewing you, you said you'd drive up from Milwaukee.

That's like serious dedication to the sport.

Probably

too much dedication at some points.

But sometimes I joke that I should say I'm a part time news anchor full time pickleballer.

It does not pay the bills, however.

So we got to stick with the day job, but I it's just fun and you meet so many really cool people who I enjoy spending time with.

So you're getting active, you're kind of scratching that competitive itch and hanging out with some really fantastic individuals.

You can't can't beat it.

I

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thought

I was when I first

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got there the other day, I thought, you know, I asked a couple of people and they knew you.

They said, oh, are you here to talk to Emerson?

I was like.

My God, this guy's like Bono here at the Marinette

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Rec

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Center.

No, they know Nightlight.

They know

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Peshwava.

That's what it

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is.

Well, one of them happened to be one of your partners.

Yeah.

OK, that makes sense.

But seriously, how many of the people?

There had to be a couple hundred.

Oh, yeah, there was 260 players signed up for the tournaments.

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Just in Marinette.

I imagine.

Just yeah, in Marinette.

I mean, it's.

Marinette's kind of a melting pot of pickleball in

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the

Midwest where there were people coming from the up Down toward the Madison area a lot of Green Bay players were there some folks come over from wassa and ago They all just kind of come into that northeast corner and have a great weekend of fun

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It's great.

And you know how what a small town guy I am now, like I've spent most of my life in big cities, but like when I drive to the rec center in Marinette and there's a camping show or a pickleball and I see how crowded the parking lot is and I go, ah, come on.

I have to walk an extra hundred feet.

I know nothing.

You know what I mean?

But I still I'm so used to being in a small town where I can park 20 feet from the door.

Agreed.

Yeah.

You had to get your

steps

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in on Saturday.

Exactly.

Let's talk about that.

So let's jump right in.

Let's start with pickleball.

How did you do?

I

got third overall.

Oh, yeah.

So we were I played in the top division and mixed on Friday and then the top division and men's on Saturday third and both.

So shout out to my partners, Carolyn and JJ.

We kept the podium streak alive this year, which is good.

I haven't played a tournament and not meddled yet this year.

So that's fun.

I was thinking about that the other day, slight flex, but that's it's it's been it's been a good 2025 so far.

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So you joked about.

Pickleball being full-time, newscasting being part-time.

I know that's a joke, but you're third, and I interviewed a guy there, Zach.

Zach Gonring.

Gonring, who someone connected me with.

Greg Vanderfinn connected me with him, and I interviewed him and got to talk to him.

He's got sponsors.

You're third.

You're not that far away.

You could maybe make the jump.

No, I don't think I could.

Why?

Zach plays so much.

all the time.

He he's going to school, but he he's able to just commit right now at his point in his life.

Maybe if I was five years younger and

at a

different point, like just getting out of school or something, I would maybe consider it because I would dedicate more time.

But it's just a fun competitive hobby for me.

I enjoy it.

I enjoy kind of being an ambassador for it and trying to get more people into

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it

because I it's changed my life for the better, I would say gets me active, gets me out there.

Again, has introduced me to some just incredible people and it's just cool to see people who maybe would be sitting at home on the couch.

Now they're out there being active, being competitive, having fun.

And that's what it's all about, right?

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And just

making memories, enjoying cool experiences, going to different places.

Yeah, but I will not be going pro.

Some of my co-anchors will joke with me sometimes on the air when they're behind the scenes too.

Oh, you won again this week and you're going to be leaving us like.

It's not happening, but it's really fun to play against people like Zach.

On Saturday, we beat him in the round robin portion.

So that

was like, that was

sick.

That was cool.

And

then

they, we ended up facing him in the semifinals, which no offense to the second place team.

I think people kind of looked at that.

Okay, this is going to be the championship match because they beat us 11 to nine and then went and won like 15 to two in the championship.

So it was.

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that was we gave

him we gave him a fight and it's always fun to play against him.

I'll get to play against him again tomorrow and I'm sure he'll make us work for every point like he always does.

But it's it's cool to have someone chasing that pro dream from Northeast Wisconsin and representing it.

And a lot of folks came out wanting to see him play.

So we at least nice.

We didn't let him walk over us.

We gave him a good match to watch.

So where is he from?

Zach's from Oconto, I believe.

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Oh, so he's in Northeast.

Yeah, he's in

Northeast through and through exactly.

He went to Bayport High School.

He's yeah, he's from here.

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So let's back up just for a second.

We had a text or Tyler who didn't know much about pickleball.

Okay.

So for the people listening right now who, you know, sometimes they take for granted, people have at least heard of it, but some people might not have.

So you say you and your partner, do you ever play pickleball folks is like a cross between tennis?

Table tennis and badminton.

Yeah, I would say like tennis

badminton and ping pong

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kind of

all combined together, right?

There's some Interesting rules that take a little bit.

I always tell people when they're trying to learn the the main rules that you need to be able to play the game properly it takes probably A half hour to an hour to really kind of comprehend those rules and the scoring because the scoring is a little wonky as well,

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but

once you understand that and

keep playing.

Then after that, it's easy.

And then you're just starting to learn the different aspects of the game that can make you better.

But you got to kind of commit to that first half hour to an hour of knowing this is going to seem super weird, super random, all kinds of different.

Oh, you can't step there or you

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can't

hit the ball here.

But once you figure that out, it's it kind of becomes a second nature.

And then you're you're off to the

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races from there.

My guest is Emerson Layman.

You can see his fine work at WBAY every morning here in Green Bay.

He is also an avid pickleball player.

We're talking about pickleball.

He was just in a tournament in Marinette and took third out of like 260 people.

You talk about your partner.

Is it ever one-on-one pickleball or is it always partner?

Yeah, so they're singles as well.

I dabble in singles.

It is exhausting.

Um,

but

it's, it's a fun workout.

I'm not horrible at it.

I was a singles tennis player.

So, okay.

That's, I would say singles pickleball is a little more similar to tennis in terms of strategy and what you're doing.

It's a lot more about power and whatnot where doubles is more about placement and, uh, kind of the slow games, speeding it up.

It's more of a chess match where singles is just, I'm going to try and hit it past you as hard as I can and hope you don't hit it back sort of deal.

So it's, it's different.

It's, it's a different type of game, a different type of workout, but yeah.

if I'm playing pickleball, I'm happy.

So I'll play any type of tournament I can find.

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What kind of workout is it?

Because it's a condensed court compared to tennis.

And I've played.

My mom used to set up a pickleball court in their driveway 12 years ago, maybe.

Back before it was cool.

Before it was cool.

And we got into it.

It was fun.

But their driveway was a little bit on a slant.

So if you were on the downside.

You had to choose which side was better, yeah.

And I thought it was you're being active, but are you getting a workout?

Are you getting like a cardiovascular?

Probably when you play good players, I think when

you play good players with long points I mean if you're playing Kind of you know, just tapping the ball over back and forth and okay You hit it three times and points done, but I mean yeah, we'll play rallies where you're it's going back and forth 30 40 times and you're just kidding constantly moving side to side front and back You know, you're just constantly moving keeping your feet moving.

It's it's

quite the workout.

And it's

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it's really sweet when you get with a ball when you can really crush it.

Because even when you crush it, it's not like it's not like a baseball come in 90 miles an hour, but you get that that wood on the on the ball because it's a wiffle ball, right?

It's like a plastic wiffle ball.

The the paddles are not so much wood anymore.

They're made, you know, some of them are with like honeycomb type.

Some of them are more composite type paddles.

They're

Making progress in terms of the technology

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when it comes to that.

Yeah

paddle technology But yeah, there's no better feeling especially after like a really long point and you finally see that one ball that you just you know, you're about to

end it with

it and No worse feeling when you see that ball and you smoke it in the net or hit

it

on

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a bounce

But when you when you hit that winner, it's a yeah, it's a pretty magical feeling I'd say so

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Zach goner ring the pro one the whole thing team do you have?

All right, so how do you you lost 11 to 9?

To them in

the semifinals.

Yes, we beat them.

I think it was 11 seven in the round robin seating.

So

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so how how does your partner stack up and how does his partner stack up?

Like when you guys faced off, are you losing anything partner to partner?

You guys about no, I would

say very evenly matched.

So Zach's partner on Saturday, Quinn Thompson, he does a lot of coaching actually in the Green Bay area and he's.

one of, he's a very highly respected player.

My partner, JJ Fila, he's from the UP.

He and I have played, this was our third tournament together.

We played the PPA tournament in Minnesota last year, our first time together, and we got third.

And then we won in Green Bay about a month ago.

And then this one, we were able to get third.

We mesh pretty well together.

And yeah, I would say it was fairly evenly matched, I think.

I was actually talking to Quinn and Zach yesterday when we were playing and they they were I Think I don't want to say threatened by us But we they said we played them the best because we actually kept Zach involved

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a lot of

people see Oh the pro we don't want to hit him the ball But we kept him involved and kind of wanted to keep it unpredictable with him and not let him know What was coming and he doesn't get to control the game as much

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that

yeah, you know He's so

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good and so

fast that you can try and avoid him

But he's just going to be more aggressive with that and still take up 80% of the court and get to every ball.

And then he's

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kind of, if I remember, he's kind of a tall guy.

Yeah.

I mean,

he was

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a

good basketball player

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in

high school.

He's very athletic, very agile.

So instead of trying to avoid him and then watching him just carve us up, we tried to keep him involved, go right at him.

And it worked one of the times, but it's very tough to beat a good team twice.

And that was.

the case.

We just they beat us when it counted.

We beat him when it didn't matter.

So that's how it

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goes.

But you always have that thing you can fall back on where you're like, I'm a news anchor.

And you beat me by two.

Listen, listen, try, junior.

No, tons.

I have so much respect for Zach and the work he

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puts in.

And like I

said,

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it's the other

day.

Yeah, he it's fun to play against really good people who he plays against.

Better people and so to see the skills that he has and to Try and take away a few things from him every time you're on the court and learn from that I mean yeah, yeah, you could come in and say oh you're some 21 year old I'm whatever right I'm but I try and learn from anybody in anything right you can always learn from someone else and Yeah, it's cool to play against him.

That's awesome.

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And there's nothing worse than like

like I have two brothers one is six seven the other one is six four I'm gonna run to the litter I'm the oldest I remember playing tennis against my brother I was probably 25 and he was like 24 and he's so tall and he didn't even like I'm working my butt off I'm running and running he's wearing jeans and he's pulling them up in between shots I'm like

He beat me and after I'm sweating like crazy.

And I said, can you at least next time we're a belt act like not humiliate a

little bit here, man.

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It's just awful.

All right.

So Emerson layman is here.

We have a we have a pickleball quiz.

Are you game?

I'm game.

I'm nervous, but I'm game.

We're ready to rock.

You have nothing.

Listen, you played a pro to within two points.

This this will be a walk in the park.

We'll see.

All right, Emerson Layman, WBAY Morning Show anchor, hanging out with us here at Night Light in the studio.

We always have so much fun.

We're coming right back to give him the pickleball quiz.

It's Peach Waba and Night Light on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

You're

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listening to Civic Media.

Find the latest news, information, and archives of all your favorite shows on the Civic Media website,

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civicmedia.us.

We've got so much show still coming up.

Emerson Lehman is here.

It's a Bar Band Friday night.

Terry Bar will be here shortly with new tunes and great chat.

Emerson Lehman is here in the studio.

We always have a blast with our pal Emerson.

He, okay, so I knew we'd get, I was hoping we'd get a pickleball related text.

This is Conrad's dad, actually, so.

Shout out Conrad's dad.

Absolutely.

Pete, where Paula and I now live in Florida is at On Top of the World in Ocala.

The top three activities are one golf, three 18-hole courses, two pickleball, pickleball, 27 courts, and three softball.

Wow, that's interesting.

Surprisingly, the most injuries occur playing pickleball, but I'll stick to golf at the time being.

Okay, Steve.

Yeah, I could see that.

I mean, golf is, man, you get injured playing golf, you're doing something

wrong.

Yeah, and I talked, we've actually done some stories on pickleball injuries, and the problem with it is some of the folks that pick up pickleball,

They haven't done anything athletic in like 20 years and then they like, oh, I'm kind of good at this and they take off and you know you trip and Maybe they don't have the the strength to catch themselves like they used to and they're the dexterity busting wrists or you know knees.

It's yeah, it's quite the It's keeping orthopedic surgeons busy.

I think

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I don't know like we played frisbee ultimate several years ago where I live with this little community with a

community field and it was right for COVID and we played into COVID because it was kind of COVID friendly.

And you know, I'm not as young as I used to be, but you get out there and it's like you think you're in high school again.

It's like,

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no, no, no, I'm going to dominate.

It's like, no, you're

not.

Yeah, don't get me wrong.

Young people playing can get hurt as well

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playing tickle ball.

But

I think it's just the, I don't want to jinx anything here.

I got to play a tournament tomorrow.

But yeah, it's

Yeah, I think it's just that that competitive nature in everybody.

Everybody's got a little bit of competitive edge in them.

I feel like and when you're finding something that you're halfway decent at, it comes out really fast and you got to kind of keep yourself in reality.

Is there a trash talking ever?

Oh, so much.

Oh, really?

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So

much.

Yeah.

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Oh God, I love this even more

now.

Yeah.

Is

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that the

second I had a good little chat going during our

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finals match?

Is it good natured or is it

is there a little heat?

I had to go up to him afterwards and give him a hug and be like, Hey, buddy, you know, we're cool.

Like it's it's all right.

We're good.

Yeah.

It's oh

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my gosh.

It's a little it's

a yeah.

And we're playing for a three dollar medal.

Like it is it necessary?

Absolutely not.

But

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but you just said you've got 40 people around the court in Marinette, Wisconsin on a Saturday afternoon.

Yeah.

So.

You

just you get that That competitive spirit and yeah when you're doing something and you're you're throwing that effort and you're You're giving that effort and you want to you want to win and sometimes the emotions get the best of you, but now

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as long as as

long as you leave Friendly with

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your friends.

I

think that's

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good.

But when you're on the court, you're competing.

So that's

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that's how it is Alright, so Emerson layman is here

He is one of the anchors of the WBA, WBAY.

See, I get that award thing mixed up.

WBAY.

You got

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it?

Yeah, morning show.

You going to the WBAs?

I

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don't want to throw any of this stuff.

Well, we had to submit a bunch of stuff, but they just sent back something, a file, an audio file,

and they're

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laughing.

Oh.

No, I'm just kidding.

Which is good.

We like to enjoy a laugh make a laugh track out of it, but we want to give you this quiz just pick I'm ready I'm ready that okay, so Emerson layman we got the bell or no wba.

Why we got oh buddy.

We've upgraded.

Okay

All right, so how many questions and is it multiple choice it is multiple choice There are ten questions.

All right, you have to continue this in the other side of the news But I think we should get started here because this is a great quiz.

All right.

You ready?

Yep.

Nightlight pickleball quiz Emerson layman contestant what year was pickleball invented 1965

Where did the name Pickleball come from?

It was first played with Pickles as a paddle.

A, I can't write game up with this, by the way.

B, named after the inventor's dog Pickles.

C, named after Olympic champ Pickleball Slacks McGee.

D, the guy who invented it, ate Pickles while playing.

I'm gonna question your authenticity on this quiz Conrad, but I'm gonna go with B for this answer.

Correct You

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don't think

that's totally accurate, but that's

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fine.

I could believe it though.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's what that might be part of it Yeah, that might be part of it, but does it sound probable?

It sounds good two for two number three What long how long I think you met how long is the pickleball court?

Is it a 100 by 100 B 60 by 20 C 20 by 44 D 5 by 5 feet 20 by 44 3 for 3

You think I play this sometimes, you know?

I think he's swatting us.

The next seven, I'm going down.

It's going to be horrible.

We'll see.

Number four, what is the kitchen in pickleball?

Is it A, the area near the net?

B, where you wash your water bottles?

C, middle of the court?

D, the area where you serve?

That's where you wash your water bottles.

I'm kidding.

I'm kidding.

It's staring by

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the net.

He dinged it before I even had the answer.

He knew.

I think you guys are in cahoots, really.

The water bottle thing, that's totally correct.

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Okay.

I just washed my water bottle in the kitchen

today.

Yeah.

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Number five, can you serve overhand?

A, yes.

B, yes only after gaining a point.

C, no.

D, sometimes only if you are down 11 points.

I mean, it's elaborate.

Yeah.

It's no.

It is correct.

It is a no go.

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I kind of like that.

I should have been able to serve

overhead against Zach and maybe we would have had better luck

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next time.

All right.

I think we're up for a real change.

We'll get one more of these in before the news.

All right, you got that one too.

Five for five, buddy.

You're doing great.

Number six, what sport is pickleball combined with?

A, baseball, soccer, and F1 racing?

B, football, golf, and water polo?

C, volleyball, tennis, and high diving?

D, tennis, badminton, and table tennis?

We'll go D. We already talked about that.

What happened?

I wanted to switch it up.

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Oh, I don't like that.

You

made me feel like I had it

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wrong for a second.

It's like total de-escalation.

All right.

Emerson Lehman is here.

We're going to finish our pickleball quiz after the news.

And we've got another fun game to play with them, too.

You're here on a great night, folks.

And it's a Power Man Friday night.

It's Peach Waba at Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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