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Amanda-towoc: A Manitowoc Quiz (Hour 2)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Thu Apr 17, 2025
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I am Pete Schwab.
Great to have you with me on this Thursday night.
Our question of the night, ladies and gentlemen, is, who is your favorite solo, musical, singer, songwriter, performer?
Fire away.
We've had some great ones so far.
And I said John Prine, Gordon Lightfoot, and Jim Croci.
I'm going back to the 70s, because that's the kind of music my older aunts and uncles listen to, and I got hooked on it at a young age.
Conrad said Tim Buck Toliver.
Who was it?
is Don
Toliver.
I will add another one that I post Malone.
Malone, okay.
Love his music.
in concert at the Pfizer Forum.
That was an amazing experience.
All right, so there you go.
Join the fun, folks.
Text us and let us know.
We'll read your text on the radio.
Right now, Mike Clemens has agreed to stick around a little longer.
He made the popcorn pick of the week.
just before the break, and he picked the movie The Instigators with Matt Damon and Casey Affleck, two Boston dudes who wisecrack through some good action scenes.
And I agree with you, Mike, it did get a little kooky, but it was a fun watch.
Yeah.
And I loved all the scenery through Boston.
And it's done in two hours.
It's done in two hours, as I remember.
have the... There was a period where there was a lot of my favorite films, like Reds with Warren Beat.
Oh,
yeah.
But that's a personal thing.
I was... We were staying at a friend's apartment, Overlooks, Washington Square in Greenwich Village.
And we got up that morning, making some coffee, and look out the window, said, what are they doing down there?
They're wrapping up the lamppost, they're blocking off the street, and he looked out the window, Jeff looked at, he said,
Looks like they're setting up for a movie shoot.
Yeah, they shoot in the park and, you know, Washington Square, Grinchfield all the time.
So I threw on a coat, went downstairs.
It was like December or so.
And it's Warren Beatty and Diane Keaton and, you know, we're standing behind a snow fence and saying, well, what's this going to be called?
And he said, Reds should be out in about a year.
They were shooting a scene from Reds.
It's so cool.
Like a journalist, remember that?
Warren, yeah, they were doing a walking scene through the park where they were talking.
one.
Yeah.
And then, you know, it ended up being Oscar nominated and it was a horror film.
But like we mentioned earlier, Gandhi out of Africa, there was a period.
There was a lot of good movies that were three hours, but now, now,
The way that these stories can be distributed in chapters and episodes, you know, now that's what they're doing, right?
No, I have.
Everyone says I should probably see Succession.
Yeah.
And what's the Ben Stiller one?
Severance that I should I should check that out.
So, you know this summer before training camp
it looks kind of weird Yeah,
Yeah, anyway, well, let me know what you think if you check it out.
But let's talk some draft, Mike, because I don't want to keep you too long.
And this is a huge deal here in Green Bay.
It starts next week.
I'm one of those people that thought they'd have trouble even pulling it off just because of what I heard about in Detroit last year with the amount of people.
Do you have any idea what to expect?
Not necessarily who the Packers might pick, but just from a logistics standpoint of what's happening here in Northeast Wisconsin.
Yeah, the NFL draft is Thursday night in the first round and the second and third rounds are Friday evening and then the rest of the rounds up to round seven are all day Saturday ends around six o'clock on Saturday night.
And so 10, 12 years ago, Roger Goodell always thinking TV, always thinking how can we get more ratings, more eyeballs, more advertisers.
moved it out of radio city musical and start moving around the country he had one in nashville a couple years ago was really impressive i'd be because mashel such a great backdrop and mark burpee you know in his last year said okay we'll never have enough hotel rooms within a fifty mile radius of the stadium to qualify for a super bowl but how about you consider green bay and lambo field for the draft and after two three years of arm wrestling and agreeing that have the packers playing in london a couple of games and all that
Mark Murphy was able to get the draft to come here this year.
So there will be about 250,000 people they estimate.
That comes out to about 80,000 or so a day.
So really, you know, Thursday and Friday, and depending on the weather today, it's been kind of rainy in Wisconsin.
But, you know, it'll feel like three game days in a row.
Or a plot.
You know, only it'll be in the parking lot.
They started and they waited till
people coming to me like you know we've signed up as volunteers we're supposed to be like greeters at the airport and they still haven't gotten back to us they're gonna have a room for us and a shift I said you know some I've been to twenty Super Bowls I was at the one in New Orleans uh... in February the legal I stopped worrying about this stuff is that you land in the city and they start getting instructions because you know what security wise they don't want to let the plan out until they absolutely have to
Oh, that's interesting.
That's where you'll start finding out more things about where to park, where to do this, where to do that, the week of, for security reasons.
Because we're in New Orleans, where a month before, they had that horrible terrorist attack at three in the morning down Bourbon Street, the day before the Cotton Bowl, right?
That's right.
And so I saw that firsthand how the league reacted to that.
throwing the Super Bowl a month later to Superdome.
So there'll be more details.
Today, they had started announcing some of the bands that would be there.
I think Brad Paisley, the country singer, is one of
A little bit more will be released over the weekend.
I think even if it's a little bit of chaos for three days and even if we're overflowing with people or don't quite have the room, it's still going to be fun.
And it's great for Green Bay, in my opinion, but I say that.
Mike, thanks so much.
This was really fun.
And I always love talking to you about movies, buddy, as well as sports.
You bet.
You bet.
Anytime.
Love the show.
Thanks.
We'll talk to you soon.
You're welcome.
Thank you, Mike.
That's Mike Clemens, Civic Media Sports Authority.
If you have a voice like Mike Clemens, you pretty much have to go into sports reporting, I think.
I agree.
He's just got that.
He's so, you know, there's like sports casters or reporters that like try to have that voice.
Mike just, it's like so.
It's just so natural and smooth.
I could listen to him talk forever.
We should invite him in and just have him read the Bible one night.
That
great radio.
Thank you to my Clemens.
Amanda Nimmer coming up in just a few minutes.
We're gonna give Amanda a quiz about her current city of residence.
Man, I have to walk, so that'll be fun.
Game of Thrones dropped today.
This was a show, in all honesty, I never thought I would watch.
I just don't like medieval stuff.
I think it's stupid.
I don't like going to the medieval castles and getting a seven course meal and calling women wenches.
It's like never appealed to me.
Where you at on the medieval stuff, Conrad?
I mean, yeah.
I kind of think it's cool, but at the same time, what you said, yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
I just, like if I lived in the medieval times, I'd make the best of it, but I just, I don't need to recreate it.
You're not a renaissance for a guy.
But for people to do it, good, great.
And those are the people I assume that like Game of Thrones.
I didn't like it.
And then I started watching it and I was so addicted to it.
It's a well done show.
Whether you like that kind of stuff or not, I admit, I'm not a medieval guy.
I loved Game of Thrones.
I couldn't stop watching it.
So you pulled a clip in honor of the dropping of the show.
What is it?
Well, you know.
It's Peter, uh, a Dinklage character, uh, you know, after being wrongfully accused of killing Joffrey, and he's in- it's a- like a court scene.
Here we go.
I wish to confess.
I wish to confess.
You wish to confess.
I saved you.
I saved this city.
In all your worthless lives.
I should have let Stannis kill you all.
Sirian.
Do you wish to confess?
Yes.
Father, I'm guilty.
Guilty?
Is that what you want to hear?
You admit you poisoned the king?
No.
Of that, I'm innocent.
I'm guilty of a far more monstrous crime.
I'm guilty of being a dwarf.
You're not on trial for being a dwarf.
Oh.
Yes, I am.
I've been on trial for that my entire life.
Have you nothing to say in your defense?
Nothing but this.
I did not do it.
I did not kill Joffrey, but I wish that I had.
Watching your vicious **** die gave me more relief than a thousand lying ****.
I wish I was the monster you think I am.
I wish I had enough poison for the whole pack of you.
I would gladly give my life to watch you all swallow it A
lot of spinoffs yeah, I mean it's a popular show so It's not something I think I would ever rewatch but I'm glad I watched it.
I thought it was really good
But how about the how about the bit of trivia in one of the shots they had a Starbucks cup?
Yeah, that's great.
Yeah, someone got fired Our question of the night folks is who is your favorite solo musician or solo artist Tyler from Wisconsin Rapids.
There's nothing sexual about this one Conrad.
He says Tom Waits says he knew Ricky well Tom Waits is great pretty good actor, too
Bridget from the 818 says, Prince, he was so talented and prolific.
Hard to argue with that.
Love, Prince.
A lot of people still think he did the best Super Bowl show ever.
It'd be hard to argue with that too.
Not my personal favorite, but it was a phenomenal show.
Jim from Green Bay says, Liberace.
Yep, another great one.
Thank you.
I'm sorry, it was, it says Jim from Green Bay, but then the text came from Brian.
That's weird.
Maybe the roommates Dave on the stream says Neil Diamond.
Oh, yeah, that's a great one Solitary man, baby PJ says my second favorite is Les Claypool With the Frog Brigade and his first favorite is Trent Resner These are phenomenal.
Great tax everybody.
All right, Amanda Nimmer is here.
We are giving her the first ever quiz.
This is making radio history again It's what we do here at nightlight
A quiz about Man It's a Walk, and it's coming up next.
This is Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio
Network.
today?
You
I think the same with the bro is saying, what's up, dude?
Had a store like that.
It's all right.
I'm very excited to welcome our next guest.
She does just about everything you can do in radio.
I'll take that back.
She's not an engineer.
She can't fix things.
Right?
And she doesn't do sales.
You know what frankly there's a lot of stuff.
She doesn't do but let's focus on the good.
She does do there we go Production director and social media whiz here at Civic Media and WGBW and W ISS Amanda Nimmer joins us now over the stream.
Hey
Hello,
Oh?
Man?
We're ready for the weekend
limping Just waiting.
I don't know my kids start and spring break
Today, it's gonna be a long 10 days.
I tried the pistachio one and it was really, really good.
You can't go there too often because like, you know, especially if you're watching your figure.
they told you that?
And it worked.
No, we did this thing called sad gelato because, you know, when you're here in the summer, I'm sure it's the same way when you're here during the day.
There's people filing in there and emptying their pockets and it's got this happy gelato summer vibe and people are wolfing down gelato like it's vitamins.
And in the fall, there's just nothing.
So we put together a sad gelato thing, but I think Conrad, we need to make a happy gelato because the people are coming back for the gelato.
Once it opens.
and I get that gelato, I'm gonna have inspiration to make the happy gelato.
So Amanda, this is great.
Thank you for taking time out.
You and I talk every day and I'm like, oh my God, all of a sudden it's been months and you haven't been on the show.
So thank you for taking the time tonight.
Yeah, no problem.
So you're a big Kevin Smith fan.
I did not know that.
You said you thought it would be cool.
And we talk about movies on the show all the time that if we talked about dogma, tell us what is happening with this Kevin Smith classic
dogmas returning to theaters.
it's exciting because so I am a huge Kevin Smith fan.
Actually, Kevin Smith was the reason I actually went to college.
Yeah.
Oh, man, if only no, I was I was a radio TV film major.
OK.
But I was leaning more toward TV.
than radio and it was um tv and film and it was because of kevin smith like i got so into his early work like i mean i know they're not the best films out there but like just his story and how he got started and i was like this guy i'm gonna go to college
yeah
and then i dropped out twice and got a degree in photography
And
I ended up in radio.
So, you know, life takes interesting turns.
But it was because of Kevin Smith that I started.
I mean, he's a quirky guy.
You know what?
And it's interesting you say that because Kevin Smith, like I've seen probably four or five of his films.
Clerks is still my favorite because it was so raw and kind of put him on the scene.
I just thought it was great.
But sometimes you become a fan of a filmmaker, even if you don't love every movie they do.
Like, I love his story.
I love how he got
Dogma's on the top of the list.
So my favorite is Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, because that was the one that I fell in love with his work for.
Dogma would probably be number two.
Clerks?
I like clerks too a little better.
Clerks too.
sadly haven't seen the third one yet.
I'm a bit behind.
There's a third clerks.
Yeah.
had to rank them.
I would have to say I would put mall rats above clerks.
Yes, some good jokes.
It's a good film, but it was a little out of his element, at least before, you know, before he started, you know, smoking the 420 stuff.
It was a little out of his element then.
So when he,
Did all of his movies up until I want to say after clerks, too.
So this is like before tusk I don't know if you've heard about tusk or yoga yoga hoses or any of that
He claims it was because of Bruce Willis That he started Smoking the note kidding.
Yeah, because when he did that, um, what was it cop out?
I think with
Morgan and Bruce Willis, right?
So he did that cop-out film and working with Bruce Willis stressed him out so much he decided to start using that recreational and Apparently it changed his life, but it made his movies kind of go down the crapper No
That's so great.
I didn't know and you know what's weird.
Here's where I have an issue with this because
Bruce Willis recently, we played a clip of Bill Murray on the Howard Stern Show talking about how Bruce Willis said, you and Gilda were nice to me.
Like he was a page at NBC or refilled the waters in the fridge, something like that entry level job.
And he said to Bill Murray, you and Gilda were nice to me.
And he appreciated that.
But then I remember reading where he was not so nice to Kevin Smith and he could be a pain in the butt.
And I feel like, you know, it kind of cheapened what he said.
to Bill Murray.
It's like, well, you should have become that.
You should, and maybe he is, maybe he's a great guy, but I didn't think that was very cool.
I mean, you don't have to like everyone.
I mean, that's just going to happen in a job.
But yeah, no, those two did not get along, I guess.
So he talks about it in one of his, it's like a Q&A special he does.
And
Kevin Smith is the type of guy who can take any situation and make it absolutely entertaining.
He just has that ability to just storytell on a dime.
Right.
So it just sucks you in.
All right.
No, I don't know.
I've only lived here six years, man.
Welcome
Great to have you with me on this Thursday night as we talk about all things.
All things escapism.
We're talking sports, movies, TV, Kevin Smith.
We're about to take a fun quiz.
Steady Eddie just chimed in.
Here we go.
Steady Eddie from the 608 says, favorite solo artist.
Pete, I'd have to say Picasso.
He could really shred a canvas.
Rembrandt was pretty good too.
Wow, that's...
That's the shortest, steady eddy text we've ever gotten.
Yeah, I think so.
Is
he okay?
Steady,
please text.
Very excited.
Tomorrow night, folks, on the show, Emerson Layman, host of the WBAY Morning Shows here in Green Bay, will be in studio.
We're going to be talking pickleball.
and a bunch of other fun stuff we always find to talk about with Emerson.
And it is a bar band Friday night.
Terry Barr will be here with new music and fantastic conversations.
So another great Friday night here at Nightlight tomorrow night.
Hope you're with me then too.
Right now, this is exciting.
Amanda Nimmer is here.
She is the production coordinator here at WGBW and WISS.
And she's also, would you call yourself a social media guru,
Amanda?
I wouldn't say guru.
I would say I know a thing or two.
Well, if that's the case, Conrad, I got some stuff for you.
Hey, we wouldn't come back from vacation there,
I just assumed there was a dance party.
I can see three cops up in the window.
And then there's someone, I think it's probably a worker or someone over there, but there were police and fire, and they're flicking the lights.
And you know what?
I think it's kind of rude, because I'm trying to do a radio show here.
It looks like a dance party.
And I asked Conrad to go out and set the police straight, and he refused to do so.
You know, honestly.
Todd Michaels would do that, Conrad.
I'm just saying.
It looks like a wiggle room back there.
Exactly.
Hey, we are having fun here tonight.
Amanda Nimmer is here.
Amanda, so tell us a little bit about your life in Manitowoc.
You say you've, I thought you were a native when I started this quiz.
So I won't give you anything too difficult, but tell me about your life there.
What do you think of Manitowoc?
It's right in the lake.
It's beautiful, right?
I actually really like it around here.
There there's not as many mosquitoes as like anywhere else.
always like 10 degrees cooler because of the lake effect.
It's it's kind of it's great
Depending the area, but yes Yeah, is there a tough part of Manitowoc?
It's not that there's a rough part of Manitowoc.
It's I've never lived somewhere that has so many unmarked Intersections in my life
really
and I I live on a corner house
on an unmarked intersection.
I've lived here six years and there have been almost seven car crashes at the same intersection.
Before living here, I would have kept going.
now I always slow down because there's so many accidents.
They got a great, like, downtown area.
They have a lot of cool events going on.
Like, my favorite, which I took you to last
Sputnik Fest.
Love Sputnik Fest.
Yeah, you didn't know he was my son though.
So it's
not biased.
any text coming in.
make enough to bribe the judges.
I'm
The 20 bucks you gave me later was just for being a good guy.
It had nothing to do.
Yeah.
All right, very good.
All right, we're about to make history here, folks, because I don't believe in radio there has ever been a quiz given about Manitowoc.
I could be wrong about that.
We have nothing to back us up, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this is a first.
We are gonna give Amanda Nimmer a quiz about her current hometown.
Are you okay with that, Amanda?
I will do my best.
Anyone from Manitowoc listening, please don't yell at me later.
He's so disappointed in that
we're gonna be hearing a lot of that one.
Lake Michigan.
I want to say about 36,000.
I feel pretty proud on that one
I've got nothing
It involves home.
Home of boats?
I don't know.
It's
town.
First off, you had a typo.
Home of the good spirit.
I misspelled home
in
the worst way
Can you say
Listen, I've been encouraged on this show to get a little, you know, blue.
We're just talking about the gardening.
Yeah, it's a hoe.
It's what you use.
It's like the shears, the shears of good spirit.
It's called the home of good spirit.
That's what Manitowoc is named after.
Okay.
I think you'll do okay on this one.
Amanda is, let's say three for three.
We'll give her that one.
A fragment of Sputnik 4 landed in the middle of a city street in Manitowoc.
In what year did the fragment crash to Earth?
69.
Close.
it.
this?
72?
No.
62?
I don't know.
I'm
I go there for the aliens.
I don't
there for the
Making a murderer.
Pretty okay.
I'm good.
I don't know.
Is there any water left there, Conrad?
Or did you drink it all?
Depending on what type of water you're talking about, there's a lot of water
I have no idea.
Is there a lemon cello in the fridge right
The only thing Kahn and I could think of is that it comes like as part of a multi-pack because no one drinks it.
So it ends up being in there.
Okay.
I thought somebody liked it and I just didn't know because it seems like it's always in there.
All right.
We should start giving it out to people who are less fortunate.
All right.
Back to the quiz.
Amanda is four for five, folks.
Amanda Nimmer.
She is the social media guru and production director here at WGBW and WISS.
Here's a bonus point on the last question.
The fragment of Sputnik 4 landed in the middle of the street in Manitowoc.
It crashed in 1962.
If you can get this, you get one bonus point, which really means nothing, because we're just having fun here.
How much did it weigh?
I know it wasn't that big I want to say like eight pounds
Round up and a little
The Maritime Museum?
spend the night in that submarine they keep out there.
Why wouldn't you?
submerge it, but like it's
mean there are some sunken ships in Lake Michigan there
I Mean anything shipwreck would probably be in the maritime museum.
I actually have not gone yet.
What I should
But I do know that there are some shipwrecks actually closed by along the shore
The boats
Oh, the submarine.
She's
No, I know this because they just celebrated an anniversary.
But the issue is I can't remember if it's the 100th or the 150.
All
1830s 18 keep going 36
Are
Oh, the Sunday.
No, but I actually used to work right by the little shop, which still is open, that the ice cream Sunday was invented.
Shano?
Was it Shano?
It's a little north of Green Bay.
whole cheeseburger museum and everything.
Terry Barr has these slices of Wisconsin's.
All right.
Dates to... Oh, no.
This is just a fun fact I wanted to share with you.
The Ice Cream Sunday goes back to 1881 when Edward C. Burner...
Owner of a soda fountain on 15th Street topped a dish of ice cream with chocolate sauce that was originally used for ice cream sodas.
So it's kind of an accident.
Oh yeah.
The best accidents are so delicious.
It's like the accident like they were trying to find a cure for baldness and they discovered Viagra.
It's like sometimes things just work out, right?
That's the wrong bed, but yes.
That's the true thing.
I'm gonna bring that up with mine when the mayor.
All right, do we have time for one more before we go to a break, Conn?
Sure.
All right, Manitowoc.
What is the car fairy that transports people back and forth between Manitowoc and Michigan between the months of May and October called?
The SS Badge.
civicmedia.us.
He says Pete junior Brown Delbert McClinton and Steve Earl can't pick just one seen all of them live and they all blew the doors off the plate Wow, that's a great text Delbert McClinton had a great song.
I think it was called giving it up for your love.
Maybe great tune Thanks for the text Tony Tyler back again from the six oh eight He says could Eric idols short-lived solo career be included in his last act in Monty Python's
The life of Brian, he nailed it.
He certainly did, Tyler.
Sure.
We're not discriminating here tonight.
Nobody's being measured or judged.
Absolutely, Tyler.
Tony, the trucker is back from the 608.
He says, man to walk home of the happy schnapps combo.
Amanda, does that sound familiar?
No, that's
new to me.
But Cedar Crest does have their ice cream shop there with the giant cow.
Nichols on the phone.
Oh, you got another steady any text.
Awesome.
All right.
Here's our last question in the quiz.
Amanda Nimmer, social media guru here at Civic Media WGBW and WISS.
and production director, she is taking a Manitowoc quiz.
The first time this quiz has ever been given on radio, we're making history tonight, as we often do.
Amanda, name two prominent breweries in Manitowoc.
Got Petskull Brewery.
Oh my God, Sabatical Brewery.
I hear they're closing though.
Yes.
All right, we're gonna rename, can't take a memo.
Amanda Tawak, as far as I'm concerned from now on, is going to be called Amanda Tawak.
What do you think?
You think we have a shot?
You know, just put a bid in for it, see what happens.
See what happens.
You got a city council there, right Amanda?
We could do
that.
No, we got the mayor.
We got mayor Justin Nichols.
I wasn't insinuating on any level that Jim or John, two of the most virile people I've ever met in my life, frankly, have anything to do with Viagra.
I was saying what I meant was they'd have a lot of fun with that topic, I'm sure.
Would you
agree?
I think it would be an interesting topic for them both to get weirded out about, because that's what they do with those type of topics.
They just like, they're like, oh no, I don't want to talk about it.
They've been on the air for like two years.
I'm sure it's come up.
I'm sure it's come up.
See what I did there, Conrad?
That was totally inappropriate.
All right, Amanda, this is so fun.
You want to stick around while I read Steady Eddie's text?
Yeah.
I get all the texts every night.
All right, Tony, the trucker says acid polka.
Oh, there's a genre for you.
That's what acid polka is.
That's why we have this strobe light.
That's the lighting for the acid polka.
Steady Eddie from the 608 is back.
He says, Pete Conrad, thumbs up.
I'm good.
Happy as a clam because I spent the past two hours in my giggle room.
Steady Eddie.
And he put Steady Eddie twice.
That's double happy.
That's double steady-eddy.
I like the show.
I honestly think everyone needs to take a break from reality.
You can't be serious all the time.
Oh, I love quizzes for it.
I actually can't because...
My parents like picked us up and moved us all over Wisconsin.
I've lived all over the state.
Okay.
Well, there's Milwaukee, there's Florence, Crivets, Black Creek, Fond du Lac, Waupon.
All
There's a couple more.
Yeah, you guys have a good
All right, you too.
That's Amanda Nimmer.
She is a guru, whether she wants to be or not, of social media.
And she is also the program director here.
So everything you hear can be tied back to Amanda.
Great fun tonight.
Thank you to Mike Clemens for joining the show.
Thank you to Amanda Nimmer, now the proud owner of Amanda Tawak.
And thank you to Conrad, the bro.
The dude.
Oh, the dude or the bro?
Are we back to dude?
I'm the dude.
How about the chum?
I don't want that.
Chum is a cool thing.
The police are still up there.
I can see them.
Whatever happened over there happened on the third floor.
I
mean, do you see there's no wiggle room lights anymore?
They were rudely.
They finally came around.
They knew we were doing a show here.
And I hope everybody's OK over there.
Thank you, everybody, for your texts, your calls.
Steady Eddie.
Tyler, I mean, all these people double texting tonight.
Tony the Tucker.
Tucker.
It's just one of those nights I can't talk.
Tony, the trucker, our finest listener of the trucking ilk.
Tony, awesome.
Steady Eddie, Tyler, all of you who texted.
Thanks so much.
Thanks for your calls.
This is Pete Schwabble.
We'll be back tomorrow night with Emerson Layman.
Always have fun with Emerson and Terry Barber Barman Friday night.
We're doing it all again on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad.
I'm Pete Schwabba saying good night, Wisconsin.
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