Pickleball, Hollywood, and Dream Co-Stars(Hour 1)

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Pickleball, Hollywood, and Dream Co-Stars(Hour 1)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Wed Apr 16, 2025

Announcer

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

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And now, a guy who always reads between the lines until he sees a car coming.

Peach Waba.

Peach Waba

Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

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What could be better?

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So great to have you with me on Wednesday.

Great show tonight.

Conrad, are you excited about this show tonight?

Conrad (co-host)

I am very excited.

Peach Waba

I can tell.

What excites you most about the show tonight?

Other than this basic chit chat that we have every day.

Conrad (co-host)

Learning more about Dumb and Dumber, I think.

But no, also just seeing some other roles that Mike has played, I think it's

Peach Waba

gonna be

Conrad (co-host)

really fun to hear his experience.

doing these roles.

Peach Waba

Very well said.

Mike is Mike Starr, that is who Conrad is referring to.

He is our guest at 6.35 tonight, an actor, very accomplished actor with a resume with about 300 film credits, and that's not even counting his TV credits.

Mike was in Miller's Crossing, Goodfellas, Hudsucker Proxy, Dumb and Dumber.

His credits go on and on.

He's worked with some of the best directors and fellow actors that there are.

So I'm excited to talk to Mike tonight.

He'll be here at 635.

And we will get to know him a little better.

You know, he, I don't know if you guys remember this, but during Goodfellas, he was the one who masterminded, or was the main connection to the Lufthansa heist.

You ever see Goodfellas?

Never seen.

Oh my God.

And they're

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like, how do we get past the

Peach Waba

guard?

How do we get past the guard?

De Niro says that, and Mike says, you're looking at him.

It's me.

He's great.

So I'm excited to have Mike on the show.

And then our pal Matt Miller stops by at 720 to talk about the Wisconsin, I'm sorry, not the Wisconsin Film Festival.

It is a film festival in Wisconsin.

the very well-regarded Milwaukee Film Festival, which I've had the pleasure of showing a movie there years and years ago, and I went as a guest a few years ago.

It is just a magical film festival with some great venues, the Oriental Theater.

I think they're using the Downer again this year.

Great film festival.

Matt is tied in.

He's gonna talk to us about that, and we'll discuss what we're watching when it comes to movies and color television.

That's with Matt at 720.

Matt's a regular you guys know Matt.

He's one of our pals and I think you know what we've been talking about Like on Monday, we talked about rom-coms.

No, it was chick flicks last night.

It was who's your favorite sitcom actress So I wanted to do something that didn't leave the guys out.

Let's try to do this But that leads us ladies and gentlemen to tonight's question of the night.

Conrad (co-host)

Let's talk about the question.

Peach Waba

Okay question

Question.

Conrad (co-host)

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Emerson Layman

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Conrad (co-host)

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Peach Waba

Questions.

Oh yeah.

If you were the lead in a romantic comedy, who would you want to play your co-star?

Men can choose a woman.

Women can choose a man.

Women can choose women.

Men can choose men.

However you want to do this, who would you want to play opposite you?

And this is a good question because I there's so many There are so many great actors and actresses and I'm I'm going back and forth as to whether or not I want to play someone who I think is pretty or if I want to play opposite someone I have kind of a crush on or Or who's a really great actor ideally both Initially I might say Scarlett Johansson Or like

Maybe Rebecca Ferguson.

She was in one of the most recent Mission Impossible films.

I'm gonna noodle this though.

I'm not gonna commit just yet.

Do you have someone in mind?

Yeah,

Conrad (co-host)

yeah, I got so the movie would be it would be it would be a you know a rom-com

Peach Waba

yeah,

Conrad (co-host)

and My love interest would be Kate Upton

Peach Waba

You know who I thought you're gonna say when you said Kate Kate McKinnon

Conrad (co-host)

Kate McKinnon actually though

I think if I did start any movie, it'd be a sports movie.

Peach Waba

Okay.

Sports rom-com kind of like first pitch or fever pitch or whatever that was.

Conrad (co-host)

No, more like, um, have you ever seen?

No, you probably haven't because you don't like Adam Sandler.

So

Peach Waba

I've seen some of this.

I don't dislike Adam Sandler.

I just don't go nuts over him like some people.

Conrad (co-host)

It would be kind of be like

Peach Waba

more like a

Conrad (co-host)

documentary, but like a comedy, like kind of like sports movie.

Peach Waba

Okay.

Conrad (co-host)

And I would.

love to have my co-star be Vince Vaughn.

Peach Waba

I think I,

Conrad (co-host)

I think I'd laugh the whole time.

Peach Waba

That's fair enough.

And the question is romantic comedy.

So he could be, you could be like his buddy in the movie.

Conrad (co-host)

Oh, it's all right.

Yeah.

Okay.

Maybe I,

Peach Waba

I

Conrad (co-host)

missed the

Peach Waba

question.

Okay.

All right.

If, if just to reiterate, if you were the lead in a romantic comedy, who would you want to play your co-star?

So I, I am going to noodle this.

Let us know what you guys think.

Conrad's still struggling over there.

He wants his, he wants his co-star to be Vince Vaughn with good reason.

I'll go back to Kate Upton.

Kate Upton, yes.

Conrad (co-host)

With that,

Peach Waba

there we go.

Not to get after you, dude, but like, she's not even really an actress.

She's active before.

She's active before, you know?

Yeah, she was in the Three Stooges.

We just talked about that.

She played a nun.

She did a great job in that.

She was good.

She was a good nun.

Unlike any of the nuns I remember at Catholic school, but yeah, okay, that's good.

So Conrad says, Kate Upton, what do you say?

855-752-4842, 855-75 civic.

Let us know who you would want to play opposite yourself in a romantic comedy.

Who do you want to be your co-star?

I think my wife would pick Brad Pitt, but I don't want to speak for her.

Maybe she'll text me during the show and I'll share that as well.

I would say Scarlett Johansson is a safe bet because she's such a good actor But yeah, I don't know there's a lot of good You can really chew you have so much to choose from that's a tough question I'll say right now my working list is Scarlett Johansson or Rebecca Ferguson

Conrad (co-host)

Okay

Peach Waba

McKinnon

as the lead opposite me.

I like Kate McKinnon.

She could be in the movie.

She could be in it.

She could, yeah.

And I'll tell you what, I wouldn't even use a prosthetic if I was kidding.

Conrad (co-host)

I know I'm not watching that movie now.

Peach Waba

Yeah, keep the kids away from that one.

Hey, this is some exciting news here at Civic Media, folks.

We have a new news talk line up here that started yesterday.

We shuffled things around a little bit, and here's a quick rundown of what you can hear on Civic Media on a daily basis.

From 5 to 6 a.m., the Midwest Farm Report with Pam Yankee, 6 to 9, you got mornings with Pat Krightlow.

powered by Up North News, which we love.

We had Christina Lorion, and that was really fun.

Pat does a great job, and he's a great guy.

He's been on the show.

We should get Pat on the show.

He'll be on the network, but I think in Madison, John and Gordy will continue to host the Madison show from WMDX, the morning show, and then here on WGBW and WISS, you can still get Mino in the mayor.

That doesn't change.

And then Matt Nara-Nara takes over.

Greg and Jane will be on from 9 to 11, from 11 to 2.

It'll be the Tom Hartman program.

Tom is coming back to Daylight Hours at Civic Media, which is exciting.

2 to 4, you got Todd Alba, our pal Todd.

From 4 to 6, the Maggie Dawn show.

Everybody just bumping up an hour or two.

And 6 to 8, no changes here at Nightlight with Peach Wabba.

So it'll be, I'm glad we get to, they can't really put us any earlier.

Or we can't use nightlight.

Yeah, exactly.

It'll just be light.

Daylight.

Daylight with Peach Wawa, yeah.

Noon light.

That will be the lineup, I should say, effective Wednesday the 23rd.

So you'll still have kind of the same shows leading up to that, but that takes effect one week from today.

All right, so at the, in Marinette last weekend, there was a big pickleball tournament, and our pal Emerson Layman, who will be on the show this Friday,

took part.

He loves to go up to Marinette and play pickleball.

I had a chance to talk to some of the pickleball players and a chance to talk to Emerson.

And here is my interview now with our buddy Emerson from last week in Marinette, Wisconsin at the Community Rec Center.

Emerson Layman, WBAY Morning Show anchor.

Pickleball player extraordinaire.

We're in Marinette, Wisconsin.

You're hometown.

My hometown.

You just dominated from what I saw.

I hope so.

We're

Emerson Layman

warming up right now.

We're getting ready for our bracket, and there's some really good teams here.

So hopefully we can dominate like we did, and it's doubled.

So where are things at?

What are your chances for bringing home all the marbles?

I'm playing with my partner that we won a big tournament in Green Bay a couple weeks ago.

So excited about that, got some momentum.

Zach Gonring's here.

He's a pro.

He's very hard to beat.

A lot of really strong players are here.

Peach Waba

Now, what makes him... I mean, he's a young athletic guy.

It looks like.

But why is he such a good pickball player?

He's

Emerson Layman

just so consistent.

He does not make stupid mistakes.

Like a lot of us amateur wannabes do every day.

And he gets to every ball.

You think you hit a winner, points over, ball comes back, and then you put the next one in the net or something.

So it's kind of making up a... He's agile.

Peach Waba

He's very agile, and

Emerson Layman

he

Peach Waba

just keeps points

Emerson Layman

alive.

Peach Waba

He's a handsome guy too, that's gotta, that's gotta, I mean, you're a handsome guy too, but it's, it's distracting.

He's got some great facial hair.

He's actually not even that good, it's just he's distracting.

He lures you into a, yeah.

Is this a good place to meet girls?

Emerson Layman

I mean, it hasn't worked for me yet, but I'm trying, so yeah, we're working on it.

But I mean, there's, it's a good place to meet anybody.

You meet so many

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cool people,

Emerson Layman

young and old, I mean, the age range in this tournament is like,

I think the youngest kid was eight years old, and the oldest people are probably in their 70s.

That just shows the range of pickleball and how many people are playing in different divisions and whatnot.

Peach Waba

It's a lot of fun.

But they break you down based on ages.

You're not playing 90-year-olds.

Emerson Layman

Not ages, it's a skill level.

So obviously the older people are playing probably a little bit of a lower skill level.

I'm playing in the highest skill level, so we've got some younger competitors.

But yeah, they break you down by the skill.

You kind of self-rate yourself.

you go from there nice so

Peach Waba

this is

Emerson Layman

your what third time in Marinette oh I've been to Marinette quite a few times work aside I mean

Peach Waba

like

Emerson Layman

yeah I come I come they have two tournaments every year they have one

Peach Waba

of all one of

Emerson Layman

the spring and I try and play in all of them

Peach Waba

so they

Emerson Layman

do a really good job of Brian and Kim Swenson they run the tournament they do a fantastic job this is their seventh year doing it I've been coming since I was working in Milwaukee so I think it's probably my fifth time

four fourth or fifth time up here

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it's okay

Emerson Layman

I come every chance I get to do a great job what is your impression of our fair city I love Marinette it's so

Peach Waba

much

Emerson Layman

fun to come up here it's cool you guys got the the lake right there yeah so much

industry going on

Peach Waba

and I

Emerson Layman

just, to have this type of facility, this rec center in such a small town,

Peach Waba

I

Emerson Layman

think is, you guys are just spoiled beyond

Peach Waba

belief.

Emerson Layman

So it's, I love coming

Peach Waba

up.

I donated, this is the wall of all the donors right here.

You're on here somewhere?

No, I gave them three bucks and they said that wasn't enough.

So I said, you know what you can do, you can go to hell, give me my three bucks back.

I think

Emerson Layman

we should put her like a little sticker.

I don't want to get you in trouble for vandalism or

Peach Waba

something.

Listen, I think that's a great idea.

You're coming on the show Friday, right?

Friday, I can't wait.

It's gonna be fun.

We cap this whole thing.

I hope I have good news to share.

I hope you do too.

It would be great to have a little celebration on the air for your good luck.

Don't pull a hammy.

Don't get a concussion.

And no more fights on the court.

I'm going to

Emerson Layman

try my best.

Sometimes the old folks, they get a little mouthy.

So I got to keep them in their place.

Peach Waba

You get them in a headlock.

That'll get the message across.

Thanks for coming.

Thank you, buddy.

That's Emerson Layman.

He'll be on the show this Friday night in studio.

And when we come back, I'll have more highlights from Pickleball in Marinette.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Mike Star coming up at 6.35.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Welcome back This is nightlight I am peach wabba great to have you with me on this Wednesday night on a beautiful It's beautiful in northeast, Wisconsin.

It's a little cold, but I think it's pretty sunny around the state for the most part So I hope hope you're having a great night.

Whatever you're doing great to have you with me Conrad is riding shotgun ready to roll always always we've got our question of the night is if you were the lead

If you were the lead in a romantic comedy, who would you want to play your co-star?

So I said Scarlett Johansson or Rebecca Ferguson, Conrad said Kate Upton.

Fine actress.

Yeah.

And Chris from Janesville says, that's in the 608 he says, the lumberjack from hundreds of beavers.

And then he said another text he said, strictly platonic, LOL.

Yeah, there's no judgment here anyway.

You can play opposite anyone you want.

I was thinking love interest.

But it doesn't have to be.

So, huh?

I believe Chris is a she.

Oh, she, I'm sorry.

That's one of those names.

I get in trouble like that.

Terry, Chris.

Conrad.

Conrad.

But wait, but Chris is saying the lumberjack.

So I thought that meant when she said strictly platonic, I assume that meant Chris was a guy.

Conrad (co-host)

Well, now we're both confused.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah.

Well, it doesn't matter anyway.

Chris wants to be in a movie with Rylan bricks and twos, who's a very talented guy.

No, I'm a he, I thought so.

Conrad (co-host)

Otherwise the platonic

Pete Schwabba (host)

thing.

Conrad (co-host)

I think there's another texture that had Chris and got me all confuzzled

Pete Schwabba (host)

over.

We do our best,

Conrad (co-host)

folks.

Pete Schwabba (host)

It's just great to hear from you.

All right.

So we've got some more highlights here from my weekend in Marinette, which is my weekend every weekend because I live there.

I went over to the community rec center.

and talk to some pickleball players.

And we've got that.

It's kind of a long clip.

It's a little over three minutes, but got a sense of some boots on the ground at this pickleball tournament and a sense that they were all having a lot of fun.

Here are those conversations.

Gidish, how are you doing so far at the tournament?

Gidish (pickleball player)

We won all the games.

You won all the games?

You're undefeated?

Yeah.

So far, three games left.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Three games left and then you're the champ?

Gidish (pickleball player)

Not yet.

If we win all three.

If you win all three, okay.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Have you ever gotten in a fight playing pickleball?

Gidish (pickleball player)

Actually this morning, other than that, never.

Like punches?

Not

Madhipatla (pickleball player)

punches, no.

I got scolded.

You got

Pete Schwabba (host)

scolded?

For

Madhipatla (pickleball player)

what?

My wife was playing and she, I think they took her out and then she called out, she looked at me.

By accident, I said...

But outside of people, they started saying, you should not suppose to make.

OK.

But they made a call already.

But I was just, it's a natural instinct, I will say.

Of

Pete Schwabba (host)

course, it's your wife.

Madhipatla (pickleball player)

Yeah.

And I have to go home.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Can I suggest a nickname for you?

Mad Dog.

Madhipatla (pickleball player)

No, you should.

I can't go with that one.

My last name is Madhipatla.

People used to remember me as a mad.

So it's a lie.

Well,

Pete Schwabba (host)

I wish you luck.

Good luck in the tournament today.

Bring up Mad Dog, bring it home.

Madhipatla (pickleball player)

Thank

Pete Schwabba (host)

you.

Now the word in the street is Zach, you're kind of the guy to beat here and I would never say that in front of Emerson though.

Zach (pickleball player)

Yeah, I guess.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That was begrudgingly you admitted you're a very good pickleball player.

Do you have a nickname for yourself?

ZG, just my initials.

You need like a kind of a badass nickname though, right?

Zach (pickleball player)

Yeah, some people, some people have gave me the nickname Sauce.

That's kind of cool.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I wouldn't say it strikes fear in people, though.

What about Cobra?

Zach (pickleball player)

Oh, I like Cobra.

Yeah,

Gidish (pickleball player)

Cobra sounds good.

It

Zach (pickleball player)

seems it works for you.

OK, OK.

Is pickleball harder to learn than ping pong?

I would say no.

I think if you really want to, you can go pick up a paddle and just start hitting around and playing pickleball, and you're going to have a great time.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Do chicks dig pickleball players?

Yeah, I'd say so.

Wait, do they like pickleball players?

Or are they just like you, because you're a good looking guy?

I don't know.

I want to do some research on that.

Lori Keller, is that a good pickleball name?

It sure is.

Is it one of those names where when you were born, your parents are like, she's going to rock it on the pickleball court one of these days?

Lori Keller (pickleball player)

Oh, sure.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Are concussions an issue?

Lori Keller (pickleball player)

Never, never.

We're nice on the court.

Oh,

Pete Schwabba (host)

that's great.

So you've never gotten in a fight over a line issue or anything?

Lori Keller (pickleball player)

Never.

Right.

Nope.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Have you ever wanted to, like, really tear into your opponent?

Lori Keller (pickleball player)

Once or twice.

Pete Schwabba (host)

What's the worst?

How heated has it gotten during a pickleball match?

Lori Keller (pickleball player)

I don't think it gets heated with women as much as it does men.

Why do you

Pete Schwabba (host)

guys do that?

It's pickleball.

Lori Keller (pickleball player)

Testosterone.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I know, but come on.

Look at these guys.

They're old.

They're on the verge of pulling every muscle in their body.

Stop with the headlocks and the leg wrestling, right?

Lori Keller (pickleball player)

Testosterone never goes away,

Pete Schwabba (host)

though.

Settle things with a thumb war.

Nobody

Carolyn (pickleball player)

gets hurt.

Everybody wants away.

Rock, paper, scissors.

Yeah.

My name's Carolyn.

Pete Schwabba (host)

How is Emerson?

Is he a good player?

Carolyn (pickleball player)

He is great.

He is my partner last night and yeah, we do pretty well together.

He's a great player.

He's very supportive and he'll kind of hype you up.

What do

Pete Schwabba (host)

you need him for?

Does he have

Carolyn (pickleball player)

a nickname?

I call him Emerson, but

Pete Schwabba (host)

uh...

Carolyn (pickleball player)

Yeah, I don't know.

He knows that.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Does he like

Carolyn (pickleball player)

that?

He never told me not to call him that, so I'll say it's neutral.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Have you ever gotten in a fight on the court?

Carolyn (pickleball player)

No.

Not a fight.

I'd say there are occasional line discrepancies, but I guess that's kind of any sport.

You just got to be honest.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Do you ever swear during the game?

Have you sworn in an opponent?

Carolyn (pickleball player)

I would say I'm more so swear to myself.

I'll be like, oh.

You know, kind of to myself if I miss or make an error, but no, I don't think I've ever done it directly to an opponent.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Do you have a nickname?

A pickleball nickname?

Carolyn (pickleball player)

Oh, gosh.

I go by my first name or the flick wizard.

I don't know.

I don't like the scorpion.

How

Pete Schwabba (host)

about the golden girl?

Carolyn (pickleball player)

The golden girl, all right.

Pete Schwabba (host)

It doesn't really strike fear in opponents, though,

Carolyn (pickleball player)

does it?

Yeah, I don't know.

It's not really scary, but... How

Pete Schwabba (host)

about the big softy?

Carolyn (pickleball player)

The big softy.

I don't know.

I'm kind of quicker at the net, though.

I'm more of a... I'm not really a soft player, so... I don't know.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Great fun at the Community Rec Center in Marinette last weekend, and I cannot believe how crowded it was.

Like, I got there and I'm like, I might not find Emerson here.

And he's the one who told me about it.

And I go over there and I barely picked him out and I watched him play for a couple minutes, but...

Wow, it was packed our question tonight Ladies and gentlemen is if you were the lead in a romantic comedy, who would you want to play your co-star?

Now we've been posting the question on social media earlier in the day, too So you're welcome to answer there Eric Rathsack from ask your mother our pal Eric says Kristen Wiig But I'd never get a scene done laughing the entire time.

Yeah, that's true She's great She had bridesmaids and like I thought that would catapult her to like serious movie star fame and she works but she's not

You know,

Conrad (co-host)

like Heather and I were talking about last night, the Palm Royale that she's on.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah.

Conrad (co-host)

Great.

Pete Schwabba (host)

If you

Conrad (co-host)

have a chance to watch that on Apple TV, do

Pete Schwabba (host)

it.

Daniel Wheeler says, Julie Louis-Dreyfus, we'd have competing chili recipes in a small town cookoff and be surprised to learn our shared secret ingredient is love.

I love Daniel's texts.

Ezekiel drew his checks in on Facebook and says, Scarlett Johansson, that's my girl.

And he says, or my wife, whoever would be most available to film, probably your wife.

But we'll have an arm wrestler or something in Z-Kiel.

But do I want to arm wrestle with a guy who played Ed Gein?

I don't think so.

I

Conrad (co-host)

don't think so.

Pete Schwabba (host)

All right.

Actor, the legendary Mike Starr will be here after the news.

We're going to talk about his career and find out what he's got going on.

Matt Miller here at 720.

So great to have you with me here on this Wednesday night on Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

I am Pete Schwabba.

Our question of the night, ladies and gentlemen, is if you were the lead in a romantic comedy, who would you want to play your co-star?

We've had some great answers so far.

Dave checks in on the stream and says Phoebe Cates.

Phoebe Cates, of course.

I mean, she's been in other movies, but I know exactly how old Dave is now, just by his choice, because I'm assuming he watched Fast Times at Ridgemont High, like me.

thousands of times.

Not just for Phoebe Cates, who was great in the film, but that's a great answer.

And we've got Scarlett Johansson, I would say is number one so far.

Right, Con?

Conrad (co-host)

I don't know.

Pete Schwabba (host)

What is this

Conrad (co-host)

Pringles thing?

Pete Schwabba (host)

You sent me food and wine, Pringles Miller.

Summer, is this a joke though, like hot

Conrad (co-host)

dog water?

That's completely real.

Pete Schwabba (host)

This is real.

Pringles releases two new summer flavors.

beer can chicken You know that actually sounds kind of good.

What's this other one?

grilled beer brought I Want you to have a beer brought and they need a plain Pringle don't you get the same effect?

Conrad (co-host)

You know I sometimes just gotta just gotta go for I

Pete Schwabba (host)

knew you'd

Conrad (co-host)

take their side It's cool that

Miller Light has a prankle, I guess.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Conrad's mom checks in with the question of the night and says, Pierce Brosnan.

Yeah, Pierce Brosnan.

He was a heartthrob.

How old was your mom?

Like 40s, 50s?

Early 30s.

Yeah, of course.

I didn't ask how old your sister was.

Paula, that's a great choice.

And you can watch him in Mobland now.

He's in Mobland with Tom Hardy.

Helen Mirren, and they're great, it's good.

Guy Ritchie directs it, it's really a good, the pace is great, really good show.

Barb from Waukesha says, I've been a Brad Pitt fan ever since I saw him in Thelma and Louise.

I knew we had to hear Brad Pitt at some point tonight.

Great choice, Barb.

I mean, I like Brad Pitt too, as an actor.

Steve, Conrad's dad checks in.

and says, Kirstie Alley would have been a great female star.

Didn't your dad say something about Kirstie Alley last night?

Maybe.

Because, oh, the sitcom.

Are we calling Mike or is he doing StreamYard?

I think Mike, let's call him.

I'm gonna send you his number.

Okay.

Conrad (co-host)

So yeah.

I

Pete Schwabba (host)

think it was

Conrad (co-host)

in regard with Cheers maybe.

Something about Cheers with Kirstie Alley.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Oh, no problem.

All right, Mike is waiting.

I'm going to send you Mike's.

Let's call him because I think he's having an issue with the Stream Air link.

So I will send you his number.

That's right.

But he's obviously a fan of Kirstie Alley.

And then, you know, if during the break, if we want to try to get Mike back on Stream Air, we can do that.

But let's just get him on the show because I'm excited to talk to him.

All right Conrad is gonna give our 635 guest Mike a call and we will we'll be off to the races here I There was a funny story my wife.

I think I've told this actually before on the show.

My wife was such a fan of Brad Pitt She bought when he was in interview He did an interview with Vanity Fair and my wife he was on the cover when he did interview

with a vampire.

There's an interview in Vanity Fair.

So my wife picks one up on the way home.

I had just flown back from somewhere doing comedy stand-up.

And I'm at O'Hare and I grab the same copy for her.

So I get home.

Basically she has two copies of a Brad Pitt Vanity Fair.

So I was like, okay, so my sister comes over a few days later and I give her one of the copies.

She's like, oh, is this the Brad Pitt interview?

I go, yeah.

I said, take it.

We got two of them.

So my sister Molly takes one of the Vanity Fairs.

And my wife gets home and she's like, where's the other Vanity Fair?

She was mad that I gave it to my sister.

So I'm like, we had two copies of the magazine.

But Brad Pitt is on the cover.

My wife obviously was working towards wallpapering our bedroom with Brad Pitt on the cover of Vanity Fair.

So that is how Brad Pitt affects.

Well women in my family my wife and my sister she got mad at me.

We had an extra copy All right, we have we have Mike Conrad awesome.

All right is my pleasure ladies and gentlemen to Welcome my next guest.

He's got about 300 or so movie credits He's been on TV all this stuff some of the biggest movies of our time films like Miller's crossing good fellas and dumb and dumber the Extremely prolific Mike star joins us here on nightlight.

Hey Mike.

Mike Starr (guest)

Hey buddy.

Sorry.

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I'm

Mike Starr (guest)

the old excuse, I feel like a progressive commercial here though, but I'm trying to get, I'm trying to get on camera here, but I think we'll fix that during the break.

So I apologize.

Pete Schwabba (host)

No, not at all.

Listen, it's just it's great to have you.

So I have to, I'm going to start not with a showbiz question, Mike, but just

ethnicity comparison I don't hear like I grew up in my neighborhood in Chicago everybody was Irish Italian Italian Polish on your Wikipedia page it says Irish Polish and I'm like oh my god finally another guy out there that has the same description as me so I'm thrilled to talk to you just for that alone

Mike Starr (guest)

well I grew up in a wonderful city housing project in Queens and we had all sorts of people and

My grandparents on my dad's side were from Poland.

They came in and I didn't speak it only because my dad grew up in a small town in Massachusetts.

But I do have Italian relatives in Boston from my dad, my uncle Ray Panotti.

So that was an influence on me.

But I came from a very mixed neighborhood that was one of the best places, ideal places to grow up in Queens.

And my mom's side was the Irish Catholic side.

So I know you get a lot of people out in Chicago who are Polish background, but there were very few other people, except we had a great neighbor, my friend's mom, who was a survivor from, and she was from Poland.

And my dad used to speak Polish to her, but I didn't hear it spoken unless we went to Massachusetts.

And I regret that I didn't learn and I've tried to learn a few times, but I did study Italian and my I had My friends that was like a godfather to me and he was he would Give me all sorts of Sicilian culture.

I mean I had all sorts of different

Pete Schwabba (host)

ethnic

Mike Starr (guest)

groups in my neighborhood

Pete Schwabba (host)

of

Mike Starr (guest)

every kind and eventually even There was the United Nations area where I went to grammar school and then

a few years after we were married, friends of mine got me into that neighborhood.

So I've liked that kind of mix event of influence.

And then when we, we had 11 years after we were married and had three kids, we had to move to the Bronx.

My friend Jack McGee helped us get up there.

If you know him, be active, right?

There was an employment at that time.

And that was a, it was interesting.

It was an Irish and Italian neighborhood, but Irish, American, Italian, American, a lot of old school, but also Ireland.

Irish people from the other side from all over Ireland and a lot of people from southern Italy Some from Rome.

So as far as blood, yeah, I've been doing those ancestry The and and what is it

Pete Schwabba (host)

23 and yeah,

Mike Starr (guest)

I even have a slight percentage of northern Russians Scandinavian.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Oh

Mike Starr (guest)

my gosh.

Wow.

Look at you all over the place in Europe and Eastern Europe.

So

Yeah, I guess sometimes they cast we have a people remember things.

It's funny, like in good fellows, someone would say you played a mafia guy said, no, I didn't know some place said it's security.

I said, no, that was an ad lib.

That was an improv talking about the security in the area when Robert De Niro said that softball, which was so great.

He said, what's security?

And just came to me say security.

You're looking at it.

He was an air cargo supervisor and he was authority to the one.

security guard that was a wannabe military guy.

If you read the book, it's great.

Nick Poleggi's book, Wise Guy.

So he was a symbol of that, but Frenchy was half Irish American and half French American.

Pete Schwabba (host)

So

Mike Starr (guest)

people, you know, a lot of times that you play, yeah, sometimes it'll be, hopefully I'm convincing in a few other ethnic groups.

You know, sometimes it would be really funny because I could not

I remember, uh, I've been fortunate to work in the theater in New York, but I remember first going out and the public theater, oh, this part for a post.

Oh, no, no, you can't play politics now.

Then someone will tell you totally ours and someone say, oh, you're, oh, you're so, you know, you

Pete Schwabba (host)

know, you

Mike Starr (guest)

know, you know, you know, and then some, you know, people would say that's actually translated.

Yes, though, which means star in the sky.

If I'm pronouncing it correctly with my limited knowledge of it, but, uh,

I guess my dad added an R to the star.

And then, aside from that, yeah, I've had people, I remember I've had in an airport, Israeli, a fellow started speaking Hebrew to me thinking I was Israeli.

You know, we

Pete Schwabba (host)

were talking, he

Mike Starr (guest)

was telling me about his toothache.

So I've seen a few different backgrounds.

And yeah, I guess it's the East European thing.

And I don't know.

Sometimes they allow me, I play Irish too.

Well,

Pete Schwabba (host)

it's funny because my sister Julie connected me with you and you used to see Julie at the Smokehouse in Burbank, one of my favorite places when I lived in LA.

And I thought one day I want to have a production company and I want to call it Smokehouse Films because I love that place.

It's so old school.

And it doesn't surprise me at all that you hang out there because you're like an old school guy.

Mike Starr (guest)

I go to see one of my best friends and we're a lot of friends on Julie's great friend, Gary McMillan.

Yeah, one of the mighty costs and off play

Pete Schwabba (host)

that he's

Mike Starr (guest)

that he's got that celebrity bartender.

He's got a following.

He's done so much TV, theater and film, but he's been, uh, he's been at the smokehouse quite a while behind the bar and it's a show, you know,

Pete Schwabba (host)

but

Mike Starr (guest)

I think someone else beat you to the smokehouse films.

You know that during ER.

George Clooney, among other people, and George recently came back to, I think he and Matt Damon threw a party there.

I said, it's a real classic picture to Smokehouse.

I don't drink so.

I felt like I'm a bar hanger out.

I go see him, bring a bunch of friends, and then they have, it goes back to I believe 1946 and 1947.

And if you look at sometimes George Clooney, you'll see

you know, on credit, Smokehouse Productions, because George Clooney used to, uh, evituate the place quite a lot and bring a lot of people there.

And there's been, uh, I think recently Gary said some film wrapped and I think a hundred people can walk in at like 9 30 at night from

Conrad (co-host)

the show.

Mike Starr (guest)

So it's right across the street from Warner Brothers,

Conrad (co-host)

but I,

Mike Starr (guest)

I like to go see Gary there and it's a great place.

And it's, um,

a central meeting place.

A lot of times friends of mine in the business or just in the area, we all hook up saying, well, let's go to the smokehouse and you'd be surprised who's there.

A lot of times.

Pete Schwabba (host)

It's a great place.

You mentioned your time in Goodfellas, Mike.

And I love the enthusiasm with what you just said was an ad lib to DeNiro.

He's like security and you're like, you're looking at him.

It's me.

It's like, I tried to imitate you earlier and I don't think I did.

I didn't do it nearly as well as you would.

Mike Starr (guest)

That whole scene was improvised.

And the wonderful actor and brilliant musician and singer, he said, make sure you don't call it ad-libbing.

And I said, I called it ad-libbing.

He said, it's improvisation.

And that was really worked out that scene.

And whatever research I had from Frank Silvero, play Frankie Carbone and on the character and reading Nick's book.

And there was a detective who helped me with things.

And it was quite a process that Martin Scorsese.

did put us through over a few days in the great process that it would come out like that.

It wasn't just like, Hey, how you doing?

Hey, you know, people walk in and saying, Hey, you go.

And I was actually fortunate enough to be on the set when Joe Pesci did funny like a clown.

Yeah, I happened, I think I came for wardrobe or something or maybe there were rehearsals or something I had to do and, uh, but

Yeah, it all just kind of came, certain things kind of came, and it was due to the, I mean, everyone put their, I guess their work and research, but it's also the preparation that it looks so off the cuff because at first, Martin Scorsese just had us work together, and even brought me in a day before, and he said, I want to get to talk to Bob.

You know, about the, I said, really?

And I went in and close to Nero, super gracious and cool.

And we discussed things, you know, and he would do an ask questions.

He was, he's not a very controlling person that way.

He, he lets people flower.

Hopefully they have the, uh, the goods at Scorsese, Montes, Scorsese does.

And I had a humor relationship, not only with Bob, but with the Montes, Scorsese, my best relationships in film or theater, whatever.

I've been based on, I don't know, off-set comedy.

Not like, hey, he is a one-liner, but a lot of- Hey, Mike,

Pete Schwabba (host)

can we

Mike Starr (guest)

pick

Pete Schwabba (host)

up right there?

We gotta do a really quick break.

I would love to hear the rest of that, though.

Let's pick up with that.

We're

Mike Starr (guest)

gonna try to get on camera now?

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah, let's try to do that, too.

Why not?

What are we doing here, right?

All right, Mike Starr is here, folks.

We're coming right back with Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Hey, this is John Legend and you're

Mike Starr (interviewee)

listening to Night Light

Pete Schwabba (host)

with Pete Schwabba.

Mike Starr (interviewee)

Welcome

Pete Schwabba (host)

back to Night Light.

Ladies and gentlemen, great to have you with me on this Wednesday night.

Here, I am Pete Schwab, your host.

Our question of the night is, if you were the lead in a romantic comedy, who would you want to play your co-star?

Jim from Appleton says, the person I would want as my co-star would have to be Jennifer Lawrence.

Excellent choice, Jim.

Great one.

Great one.

I didn't even think of her earlier.

All right.

This is exciting, folks.

Mike Starr is here.

Legendary Mike Starr with so many credits.

He's been part of such great movies.

I think we got him on the stream now.

So if you're watching on the stream, you can see Mike.

Wow.

A lean, mean fight machine, Mike, if I do

Mike Starr (interviewee)

say so myself.

I'm working at it.

Wow.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That's impressive, dude.

Back trail here.

Yeah.

Reinventing myself.

I

Mike Starr (interviewee)

love it.

Pete Schwabba (host)

It's great to have you here tonight.

And I'm glad we got the stream figured out, but stream phone, it doesn't matter.

It's just great to talk to you.

Um,

Mike Starr (interviewee)

I just want to say quickly, hello, my family, my kids and great children out in Chicago and Naperville and my friends, your friends, family out in Minnesota, John Breen, my childhood friend of wealth.

We got Wisconsin Todd who trains the Bosa brothers and, uh, he may be out there, but his family's out there and, uh,

Who else who else so I got it?

I just wanted to make sure and coley from Galway in Chicago and all my friends I spent the greatest times of my life in Chicago some of the greatest times and and Have a whole world there.

So I just want to make sure I got that to my Brian from BNP Chicago Oh, that's a great place.

Well, thanks

Pete Schwabba (host)

for

Mike Starr (interviewee)

getting the word

Pete Schwabba (host)

out.

That's fantastic.

Mike Starr (interviewee)

No, I have to yeah got the world of

When the iconic place Stan Lee's, God rest his soul, Donnie Cruz and Chef Luigi from Francesca's, which my son still does a stint there every now and then.

We have so many people that is a couple of friends that are not around.

But Stan Lee's, that's how I met Chris Chellios and Ryan Dempster and all these people.

Yeah, it was a whole great world out in Chicago.

Dennis Farina and Joe Mantania who I'm so in touch Dennis Farina from Chicago and some of the best experiences all but I'm not leaving anyone out so many so many really Great times and great experiences, and I was fortunate enough to work there and my wife also UIC but also University of Chicago the children's house where she was a pediatric concert and so Wow, oh

Pete Schwabba (host)

my

Mike Starr (interviewee)

gosh quite some interesting times and a history for me in a very special place So I wanted to say that

Pete Schwabba (host)

Fantastic.

You might get a kick out of this.

Dennis Farina was my little league coach.

Yeah.

His

Mike Starr (interviewee)

son, Mike

Pete Schwabba (host)

and I were classmates and he and my dad were the coaches and I ran into him a few times out in LA.

It just had really nice talks with him.

A good guy.

Mike Starr (interviewee)

One of the greatest guys of the year.

God bless, God bless.

So I wanted to.

I'm sorry.

So, but I was talking about the comedy.

Yeah.

That, uh, Martin Scorsese, uh, I guess I was lucky every time he, we did trip, he did a trivia thing or asked about, cause I spent time, you know,

old films, we would call old films, but the respect he has for it, but even TV and comedies, and every now and then he would just quiz me, and I'd be lucky to answer, but a lot of that improv came out of freedom.

You know, we would just work together, and then all of a sudden, you know, Ray would, oh, I have to get this line in, whatever you know, and...

on top of that, then we went with department heads, you know, the cinematography, et cetera.

And then finally the whole crew, and then we did it.

So it wasn't like we just walked on that.

That's why I want to give so much credit.

It was like you felt so free.

And then when you did it, hey, feel free.

So one take, I said the commandant, I called myself.

And Montes-Cosse said, he said, Mike, the commandant, I said, well, it's 1968.

How did it end up off?

Because the Air France heist was the one at Frenchy.

Right.

Was the main guy in before Lufthansa ten years later, which I snuck in a lot.

I have a thing about improvising correctly for the period of if I'm lucky and fortunate.

And I just said, well, you know, that that my generation grew up with World War Two films.

And and like, you know, the Great Escape and Stalak 17, there was always a commandant in charge of, you know, the prison.

So he says, I love it.

Keep it in.

But we would he

with that frame, so enough of that, I'm sorry I'm yapping too much about

Pete Schwabba (host)

myself.

No, this is great stuff, and we have about two minutes to a break, and I'm hoping we can keep you through the news, then we'll have a nice chunk

Mike Starr (interviewee)

of time.

I think it'll be a one.

Pete Schwabba (host)

All right, fantastic.

I did want to ask you, though, and I'm kind of embarrassed, because I've seen good fellas about 20 times, and after the Lufthansa heist, all these guys, DeNiro or Jimmy Conway, starts bumping people off.

I don't remember.

Did you get whacked after the Lufthansa heist?

Mike Starr (interviewee)

Yes, and it kind of insinuates that it was, was De Niro's character, Jimmy Conway, and then Jimmy Burke.

And, you know, I'm not quite sure if he left it open, like, well, was it them or was it the, was it the higher ups with Paul Sobino plays?

Was it Paul Vario?

Yeah.

So I'm not speaking history because I don't know.

But you kind of leave it there.

Is that what's happening?

Is that, it was it, was it that?

I mean,

But I was in the dumpster, remember the Layla?

Rolling over.

Yes, OK.

And the first three times I was blinking and everything.

We had a fun concerto and I. And we even had my great stunt double skeets, Don Picard and Nick Jean-Julio did a climb.

But we did most of our stuff.

But, you know, and then Don looked over me because it was quite a.

And interesting situations, gigantic dumpster.

The stunt coordinator was my crew.

And it was lifting into a hopper, which you don't see.

And the camera was in the hopper.

And he showed me that the blades weren't on.

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Oh, man.

Mike Starr (interviewee)

That's great.

First three days, I was blinking like, oh, yes.

And we were covered in all the blood.

And I believe the first week, we

We did all the death scenes.

You got them all out of the way.

Johnny Rosebeef and the Pink Cadillac.

That's like seven hours.

I mean, that's how explicit Mike Valhouse, the cinematographer, of course, Martin Scorsese, how explicit and detailed as Robert De Niro and everything he does is so detailed.

There's little points I could tell you sometimes that you knew that they just picked up things that were just so, you may not even notice.

And my big, my big ad live in the Lufthansa improv was when we're playing the bowling machine to open it up.

I said, uh, Louise get a lightning for Ron Gidry in 1970.

All

Pete Schwabba (host)

right, Mike, we got to do the news.

We're coming right back.

Mike

Mike Starr (interviewee)

Starr is here.

He's

Pete Schwabba (host)

staying through the news.

It's Pete Schwabba and nightlight.

We're hanging out with Mike Starr on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a man barely six feet tall but a mountain of muscle, Pete Chwaba.

Pete Chwaba

Welcome back to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen, as we kick off our number two.

So great to have you with me on this Wednesday night here at Night Light Conrad Riding Shotgun.

If you were the lead actor or actress in a romantic comedy, who would you want to play your co-star?

That is tonight's Night Light Question of the Night.

We've had some outstanding...

answer so far.

Matt Miller coming up a little later here in hour two.

Right now, this is really fun for me.

I've got the legendary actor Mike Starr here.

He's been over in over 300 films, TV credits too.

He's done theater.

He's an absolute treasure.

And you've seen him in so many movies that you've probably forgotten about because he's in so many of them.

The Bodyguard, Miller's Crossing, Dumb and Dumber.

And Mike, I'll ask you about this one.

kill the

Mike Starr

Irish.

I first apologized.

I know I did a lot of Chicago things.

I do love Milwaukee and Wisconsin had great experiences there, including being out for weddings and and so many so many great times and stayed stayed out in Milwaukee and made made special trips, not only with my wife, but also I with friends out there and was lucky to work and I even have these friends that have a

a film show on the radio in Kenosha.

And so I try to, I try to, I'm not, not competitors at all.

We're all in this together.

That's right.

And was lucky enough to go to Lambeau Field.

Oh yeah.

Like that and spend great times in Wisconsin.

Pete Chwaba

Listen, it's a great, I mean, I've lived in Chicago, LA and Wisconsin.

I love them all, but Wisconsin, where I live now in northeast Wisconsin is the easiest place to live.

You will ever, it's like, oh God, it's like heaven.

The people are nice.

It's just easy to get around.

There's enough culture.

It's fantastic.

So, but thank

Mike Starr

you

Pete Chwaba

for the nice words.

I was about to ask you about Kill the Irishman, this movie that you were in that not a lot of people saw it.

I just watched it like three years ago.

Was that a good

Mike Starr

experience?

That was tremendous.

It was about Danny Green.

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Yeah.

Mike Starr

And Cleveland gangster, right?

Yeah, Irishman was a long shaman and originally from Ireland.

It's a really interesting story.

The book was written by who's now a police

I think in the suburbs of Ohio, at least he was at the time when he gave me the book and he had been a patrolman, I think, way back then.

There were, I think, 35 bombings in 1973 between these wars they were having.

And, you know, you look at the cares we had.

And of course, Ray Stevens, we lost, who was originally, I think, from Northern Ireland and England, he was a wonderful, wonderful actor.

And we lost him at a young age.

and he had played the lead and he was just spot on perfect, just great to be around.

And there's, you know, you see all the other characters and, oh man, Vince DeVonafrio and we had, geez, we just had a great cast, yeah.

Chris Walken and you see, yeah, so it's, geez, I'm just thinking of all the people that were on it and some who are not with us anymore, Tony.

I didn't know,

Pete Chwaba

yeah, Ray Stevens was great.

You are, like, let's talk about that, Mike.

You, and I want to get to Dumb and Dumber and Miller's Crossing and maybe even the Bodyguard.

We'll see how we do here.

But, like, you, you've been described, everybody I've talked to about you, or if I said Mike Starr is coming on the show, whatever I said, he is such a nice guy.

He is one of the nicest guys you will meet in the entertainment business.

For you, and you've worked with tons of people, who do you say that about?

Mike Starr

Oh, Lord.

Now you're going to get me in trouble if I stop.

Just because time's an issue.

Give me two people.

So OK, Gene Wilder.

I'll pick people that aren't alive.

I mean, I'm thinking of so many.

I mean, I mentioned how nice Robert DeNiro was to me, Dustin Hoffman, but John Lithko.

He got me work too.

That's all that always helps.

I've been periodically for the Sopranos.

Oh yeah.

Got me work a few times and so many people.

I was lucky enough to work with Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick on Broadway and a few other nice people.

Wow.

And geez, now I get nervous that I'm not going to say it's that cliche of who am I leaving out.

But Gene Wilder was

One of the most special people you can't imagine.

You couldn't wait to get to the set.

We did these A&E mysteries.

He wrote Agatha Christie's style.

We did a couple of those and special TV movies.

He's in Milwaukee.

He was

Pete Chwaba

born

Mike Starr

in Milwaukee.

That's it.

That's it.

Oh, good.

I finally.

Great choice.

Oh, the stories you would tell.

I'd ask about young Frankenstein.

Hey, John Candy was.

Oh, yeah.

That's right.

You

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were an Uncle Buck.

That's

Mike Starr

right.

Uncle Buck, the drunken clown,

Pete Chwaba

right?

What are your, like, you play a great tough guy, Mike.

I've seen you play cops.

Where does comedy rank?

Like, when you get to play comedy, is that like a nice added bonus to your career or is it tops on your list?

Mike Starr

Oh, geez.

I don't want to make a cliche, it's all the same to me, but it's funny, they all have their, it's just, you know, Peter Farrell told me, and I think Jim Carrey was involved in the decision-making too, but Peter had said something that they wanted, someone that had played these, you know, serious mob characters or whatever I was supposed to be, and it's funny,

you know, and you see so many wonderful actors who got their start in doing stand-up, but they didn't want like a stand-up comedian.

He says one of them says, I don't know, you know, and that, but you see so many fabulous people who started in comedy or that we knew from comedy, and then you find out how wonderful they can be.

But it's funny, some of, only once or twice, it would...

But you know, someone would say something like, but isn't he a comedian?

How are they going to take him seriously as this character or the the mark?

Because if you did something that was popular, like dumb and dumb, not because of me, but it has such a following.

It's outrageous internationally.

I mean, people still talk of all ages.

And so, yeah, that that was that's so much fun.

I mean,

I don't like, geez, I don't know what to say because I like, I love period pieces and I don't know how to say it.

I mean, there's some things that aren't comedies and you get to be kind of a funny guy.

Like in the natural, I was kind of, you know, I improvised a few funny lines here and there, you know, thanks to Barry Levinson.

And I don't know, I don't know how to answer that.

I mean,

Pete Chwaba

it is

Mike Starr

so great to make people laugh.

Let's put it that

Pete Chwaba

way.

Yeah, I knew.

You know, you're rolling dumb and dumber.

I knew every line at one point, even when you come out of the restroom and you're like feeling better girls.

Just

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everything you say

Pete Chwaba

to those guys is so funny.

And it's such a scene.

Mike Starr

It's written by them.

Yeah.

Pete Chwaba

Well, yeah, but it's performed well, too.

And I feel like, you know, comedians should just act whether you're a comedian or whatever.

The script is there.

That's the material.

Just play it straight.

And if it's funny, it's funny.

But was

Mike Starr

that whatever.

whatever way you get there, as people say to me, you work at it.

But yeah, it's a lot of the humor comes out of reality.

I mean, you think of little things like in Goodfellas when when Joe Pesci after this terrible killing, he says, make that coffee to go, you know, and the Godfather, you know, a lot of times that humor comes out of that.

And then there's different styles, of course, of comedy and being on

Dumb and Dumber was just the toughest part was to keep a straight face when I'm either supposed to be angry or dying or whatever.

And these surprises come from Jim and Jeff, you know.

Nefarally, brothers, tell me things about my guy Fred Stola when I first met him with the phone booth.

Oh, he's great.

And he's just really hysterical and he's a wonderful writer.

He wrote, I believe he, I know that he was on Seinfeld, but it looks random, but he also wrote on Seinfeld too.

Oh, is that right?

Yeah.

Fred did a lot of stuff.

Pete Chwaba

Great comic.

He's

Mike Starr

been

Pete Chwaba

in

Mike Starr

touch with me.

Pete Chwaba

And a great part.

I mean, I forgot about the phone booth scene in Dumb and Dumber.

That's classic.

What was it like?

We talked about Miller's crossing a little bit in our text exchange the other day, and you sounded excited to talk about that.

What was it like working with the Coen brothers and Gabriel Byrne and Albert Finney in this great cast?

Mike Starr

Oh, man.

Too long a story on that one.

I mean, Albert Finney.

The Danny boy scene probably listening and oh just but so many other than just the conversations again Offset well, I was drinking that wait a second, but I just Just the The stories and the things they share and these people that you looked up to and my partner in it Al Manchini Congress, so he was and and and and You know Albert

But Gabe, there was so many laughs and things.

Gabe was filming off the set, and there was just so much.

And John Titori, I've worked and known for years, so we got to do that scene together and work together.

And there's a lot of things I could tell you.

And then having to all of a sudden come up with a song, and then what happened was they changed it.

And another time, I can tell you how I learned it.

going through customs.

Pete Chwaba

But that really is you singing?

Mike Starr

Yeah.

That's why it doesn't look like it.

I mean, people don't say, oh, you're not a singer or whatever.

But I'm no genius.

But what happened was that I did one that had this page that something I'd learned in Northern Italy.

And then they changed the song.

I had about five days to a week.

And I was going up doing this.

film about the Boston busing and on a bound or something was and I was going up to Toronto and I had to learn it and even I asked neighbors and they said the dialect was so strange to them but so you don't see it on my mouth much because you go from back to that but after that none then the the song in the film is there and it was about Pavarotti's town gilandella is the song from pronouncing it right and

It's so it that that that that you know, it's like so it's very hard to match the mouth.

So yeah sideways and things and and they they actually Was it Joel Ethan they apologized to me said we should have put you in the credits because people thought it was someone else You know, and I got to be

pretty obnoxious about it over the years.

Mick Flanagan, great line producer, said, if you asked Mike about Miller's Cross, that's one of my favorite movies, but he'll immediately go, that was me singing, you

Pete Chwaba

know.

Mike Starr is here, ladies and gentlemen.

He has been in such movies as The Bodyguard, Kill the Irishman, Miller's Crossing.

Goodfellas will have a couple more minutes with Mike after a very short break.

And then Matt Miller comes up to talk about the Milwaukee Film Festival.

You got nightlight with peach wabba here on the civic media radio network

Pete Schwabba (host)

Tonight light I am Pete Schwabba and Matt Miller comes up in just a few minutes.

We'll talk about the Milwaukee Film Festival We have a couple more minutes here with our our guest Mike star an actor with so many credits, you know his work from the Godfather Bodyguard the bodyguard is bodyguard good fellas Miller's crossing so many so many great credits Mike

Mike Starr (guest)

I just tell you that Miller's crossing that was an example of with there was some comic things we

We

Pete Schwabba (host)

did you

Mike Starr (guest)

know, but not complete but things like when he hits me in the face with the chair and how we set it up and and the con bros were just so great to be around

They're just like that.

And I did a lot of off-camera humor with them, too.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That's great.

I'm not surprised by that because you seem like a real jovial guy who likes to laugh.

It did surprise me a little bit, maybe just because of his character, but the Gabriel Byrne was someone who liked to crack up and be funny.

He had

Mike Starr (guest)

a very dry sense of humor.

I even called him out, but he was great.

He is very funny.

He's really

Pete Schwabba (host)

something.

That's so cool.

Well, you'll have to come back because I'd love to do a deep dive on some of these things and talk to you more about your process and all that kind of stuff.

But before we let you go, can you give me, you know, you've got like almost 300 movie credits, TV credits.

If someone said, Mike, what three films of yours should I watch?

What would your answer be?

Mike Starr (guest)

Oh, Lord.

I find it hard to.

Pete Schwabba (host)

You don't like to leave anybody out, I could tell.

Mike Starr (guest)

Yeah, and also, I don't like to call them my films either.

I mean, there's different things where you, you know, I mean, I think Edward is a great experience.

Oh yeah.

And I had done this comedy with all friends.

The deli where I played it to Jen to Jenner gambler live what is wrong, but I mean the obvious ones are good fellas bodyguard You know dumb and dumb as so I mean it's hard to say I mean the natural was such a great experience, but I'd love to Jesus if you ever see path to paradise where I actually played an Egyptian blue-eyed redhead at one of the 93 World Trade Center

For that which was very controversial at the time and known in 9-11, but it was a fascinating study they did and then But there's things that like I said did with Gene Wilder and there are things that might not have been it's well-known I mean black Dali was a great experience Sometimes all the scenes certain things don't get in the film whatever But of course

And again, Goodfellas was just like one of the highlights.

But you know, consider yourself by any means a lead in some of these films, you know what I mean?

So that's why it's funny films.

I guess if you put it that way, films that you've been in, but there's so many that had wonderful experiences.

I mean, I've been really lucky when you think about it.

I just recently did one some things.

And there's television shows that were just

tremendous experiences, you know, whether they were Lauren Otis, Crime Story, you know, Ray Donovan, they got to be on Blacklist and James Bennett was just something to work with him and to work with Bill on Shameless, even though it's one scene, you know, it was William,

Pete Schwabba (host)

Ray

Mike Starr (guest)

Donovan with John Boyd and the whole crew on that.

Pete Schwabba (host)

What I love, Mike, too, though, when I was looking at your IMDB page, you've got a ton of projects that aren't even out yet.

So you're still working hard.

I would love to have you come back soon.

And don't hit the gym too much, though, dude, because you look like a welter.

You look like a welterweight.

You're missing the intimidating.

You're trying to get the line back away.

There you go.

Mike, thank you so much for your time tonight.

It's great to meet you.

Thank you.

And I'd love to have you back on sometime, buddy.

Mike Starr (guest)

I really appreciate this.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I

Mike Starr (guest)

guess all of them

Pete Schwabba (host)

keep up those great children.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Thank you very much, Mike.

Have a

Mike Starr (guest)

great night.

All right,

Pete Schwabba (host)

kids.

All right, that's Mike Starr, ladies and gentlemen.

Check out, let's go to his IMDB page.

In fact, you know what?

Let's bring our next guest in because I'm sure Matt has seen his share of Mike's films, too.

Milwaukee film critic Matt Miller joins us now, also on the stream.

Matt, you got to hear part of that interview with the great Mike Starr.

Talk about an actor like, we've got another actor in Wisconsin, Richard, really, with over 300 credits.

Mike has like...

He's got to be pushing 300 credits just with films.

And that's not even talking about the TV he did.

I mean, what a great career.

Matt Miller (film critic)

Yeah, I think I actually pulled up as IMDB while you were doing that interview.

And I think the number is like 249 on IMDB, which is wild.

And I mean, to have a year in which you are in Goodfellas and Miller, Miller's crossing in this game here, that's a pretty good way to live.

Absolutely.

would be a Hall of Fame year.

And then, you know, there's the rest of his career to go with it.

So that's kind of the dream career, you know, just like being memorable in movies, great movies,

Pete Schwabba (host)

like

Matt Miller (film critic)

what a great career to have.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Absolutely.

And I think Miller's crossing to me is, you know, I do these classic movie picks.

And it's funny, I've got two Mike Starr.

movies.

Last week I did Miller's Crossing.

Jim Carrey's name came up, so I did Dumb and Dumber this week.

But Miller's Crossing is a very underrated, not underrated, because I think people think it's great.

But that film executed brilliantly, writing, directing, acting, the look, the aesthetics.

So great.

Matt Miller (film critic)

I mean, he's arguably in three modern great directors.

Best movies right in Miller's crossing by the Coen brothers, which I think is probably top three Coen brothers He's in good fellas, which I would say is like a top three Scorsese and he's in Ed Wood, which I think probably the top three Tim Burton like right invented like modern cinema of our times

Um, and he was, he was a part of all three of some of their best projects.

That's a, that's it.

Again, that's a good way to live.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Absolutely.

Um,

All right, so Matt Miller is here, folks.

Milwaukee Film Critic.

You can follow him at A Man About Film.

He has a sub-stack there.

It does great work.

We're going to get into some of the Milwaukee Film Festival.

Matt, I'm relying on you because I think I mentioned on the air a couple times I was in Madison a couple of weeks ago hosting Q&As, doing all that kind of stuff.

I'm not as up on Milwaukee, which is a phenomenal film festival.

So I want to get into that with you and anything else you want to talk about.

We'll do movies and TV.

Thanks for sticking with us.

We had some technical issues earlier, but it's great.

great to have you here.

And we will be back after the news.

Matt Miller will keep you up to date, folks, on what you can expect at the Milwaukee Film Festival.

And I can't wait to talk to Matt about warfare, either.

We'll talk about that.

That's all coming up after the news with Matt Miller.

This is Pete Schwabba and Night Light on the Civic Media Radio

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Pete Schwab (host)

This is Night Light with Pete Schwab.

Great to have you with me on this Wednesday night as we broadcast over our beautiful state of Wisconsin.

And we talk about the things in life that make us happy, movies, TV, music, comedy.

And Matt Miller.

Matt Miller makes me happy.

And he is here, the Milwaukee Film Critic.

Matt is great to talk to.

And he's going to tell us what we can see at the Milwaukee Film Festival.

What we might want to see or circle out And then we'll get into some movie talk Matt.

It's great to have you here and good to see you buddy

Matt Miller (Milwaukee Film Critic)

Thanks for having me.

Yeah, great time for a movie buff in Milwaukee in Wisconsin right now.

Pete Schwab (host)

Yeah, so what like what is your you know

Rather than start with movies we want to see, give people a little background if you could.

It's just a thumbnail of the Milwaukee Film Festival.

I know they've tried to raise their profile in recent years.

They've got great venues.

There are real movie buffs there, but tell us what you know.

Matt Miller (Milwaukee Film Critic)

Yeah, so if I recall, I'm trying to remember the timeline on this, but the Milwaukee Film Festival and its current form has been around for about 15, 20 years, I believe.

This year, they are kind of compacted down.

They normally used to be a part of the Avalon and the Times.

They used to be all across those theaters.

This year, they are very centered in the Milwaukee East Side area.

All their screenings are going to be taking place at the Oriental and Downer Theater, which are their two historic cinemas.

They're gorgeous spaces, really great places to take in movies.

Highly recommend.

and checking it out.

And yeah, they've got over 200 movies this year across all sorts of spectrums.

If you like indie dramas, if you like documentaries, if you like movies for kids, if you like insane late night horror movies, you know, they have pretty much, I always tell people about the Milwaukee Film Festival, if they don't have something that interests you, you just aren't interested in.

You're just not an interesting person.

So, I mean, you'll find something at the Milwaukee Film Festival for you to watch.

And I'm gonna try to,

you know, I'm sure we'll talk about a bunch of their selections during the segment, but I really highly recommend people checking out their website and going through the program book.

And like I said, I think you'll find at least something that piques your interest.

Pete Schwab (host)

It's so great to watch movies with other movie buffs.

Like sometimes

Matt Miller (Milwaukee Film Critic)

when

Pete Schwab (host)

you go to the theater or a mega place, you don't know what to expect and you don't know who you're watching movies with.

Sometimes they talk or they crunch food the whole time, like.

Like when you see film festival movies, especially at a festival like Milwaukee, you're there with people who engrossed themselves in the movie.

And that, like you feel part of something, you know, it's great.

Matt Miller (Milwaukee Film Critic)

Yeah, it's a crowd of people who are excited to submit themselves to a movie.

And in a lot of cases, submit themselves to a movie, like you said, that they don't know much about, you know?

You really, obviously, you can do a ton of research into these things, watch trailers, read reviews and all of that.

But it's kind of fun to go into a movie sometimes and be like, I know one sentence about this thing.

I know a sentence and a still show me what you've got.

Those have always been kind of the most exciting Milwaukee Film Festival experiences is walking into something being like, oh, I don't, I don't know.

Oh, this is my fourth movie of the day.

I don't know if I really want to.

And then you walk out and you're like, oh, that was the best thing I saw this entire festival.

That's always a really fun experience.

Pete Schwab (host)

I did that at the Wisconsin Film Festival a couple of weeks ago.

I saw a new film called The Threesome.

Matt Miller (Milwaukee Film Critic)

And

Pete Schwab (host)

it's the best romantic comedy I've ever seen.

And it's Zoe Doich, who's kind of, you know, on the path to fame, or she's already there, I guess.

And Ruby Cruise, a great cast, great direction.

I cannot.

wait to see it again or see what happens with it.

It goes right to streaming or theaters.

But those are the kind of movies you can kind of be pleasantly surprised by.

What stands out at this year's Milwaukee Film Festival?

Are there any big films you think people are gonna flock to?

Matt Miller (Milwaukee Film Critic)

Yeah, I think one of the biggest ones is going to be The Shrouds, that is the new David Cronenberg movie.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, for those who don't know, David Cronenberg, The Fly, Scanners, Crimes of the Future, his big body horror guy, and this one is still kind of in that realm.

It's about a man who's mourning his wife and is trying to communicate with her via these kind of weird technological methods.

But also David Grunerber, I believe his partner passed in recent years, and this is kind of a very personal movie for him.

I remember it got a kind of lukewarm, lukewarm response when it premiered at some of the big overseas festivals, I think premiered at Cannes.

But honestly, that makes me more excited about it because when a movie like this premieres at a festival and people are kind of like, oh, I don't know, it didn't knock me on my butt, that tells me that, oh, it's maybe not like an Oscar movie.

You know, or maybe they watched it and they weren't like, oh, this is like a $100 million grossing movie.

This tells me that this is something interesting.

It's kind of like how whenever the Coen brothers released a new movie nowadays, the first reaction is always like, oh, I don't know.

It's light and it's frivolous.

It's not that good.

And then everyone sees it and they're like, oh, it's tremendous.

Like, you know, sometimes the film festival crowd is a little cynical and a little kind of, you know, where's the money about it?

And I just really want to see a really, really interesting David Cronenberg movie.

really cool.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's about 20 years ago about a bunch of friends built like a secret apartment inside of a mall.

And it's kind of about their kind of, you know, interesting dynamic and how like the mall world and how culture changed.

I'm really excited to check that one out.

If that sounds interesting as well.

There's also a documentary that goes to all over across the country and finds former Pizza Hut locations.

And if you're one of those

who remembers like the old 90s Pizza Hut places.

They were so architecturally particular.

You always would can recognize when something used to be a Pizza Hut.

Pete Schwab (host)

Like an IHOP too, yeah,

Matt Miller (Milwaukee Film Critic)

exactly.

Yeah, these places are like the old McDonald's with the double double arches and stuff like that.

And it goes to these former Pizza Huts and finds what is in them now and kind of details what American life is like now via Pizza Huts, which is I think a really fun premise for a doctor.

And the person who did it also did a documentary at the film festival a few years ago called We Don't Deserve Dogs, which was a really good documentary that took a similar approach.

But it was how different cultures and different people across the globe, you know, how dogs fit into their lives and the meaning that dogs have.

And I thought that was a very powerful, really well done documentary.

So I'm excited to see what that director does with Pizza Hutts.

Pete Schwab (host)

Yeah, I'm excited to see the mall one.

just to see how they did that and how they

Matt Miller (Milwaukee Film Critic)

did it.

Pete Schwab (host)

Did they get discovered or was it like a covert thing?

I would imagine it was.

Matt Miller (Milwaukee Film Critic)

I will have to find out.

I'm excited to find out more about that one.

So that one's very exciting.

And then you have their centerpiece movies.

They've got two documentaries and a rom-com as they're kind of opening, closing, and centerpiece movies.

The opening movie is Sally, about Sally Ride, the astronaut, and kind of the truly, back when a woman going into space actually meant something and was actually historic and actually a feat for feminism.

tells Sally Ride's story both on the shuttle and off the shuttle, because she also has a fascinating life beyond what she did with NASA.

The centerpiece movie is a documentary about librarians and about them fighting back against book banning and kind of freedom of speech and all these kind of moves we're seeing in our political scene right now.

So that's going to be a very good documentary as well, very obviously very prescient, very of the moment documentary.

And then the closing night movie is a rom-com called Jane Austen Wrecked My Life.

Oh, great.

About a woman who's a big Jane Austen fan and she kind of finds herself in a Jane Austen-esque romantic love triangle situation.

I think that's a kind of very charming, light, fun way to kind of end 15 days of cinema, I think.

So again, you can see in those three movies right there, a very wide swath of really interesting stuff.

you know, if you're a midnight movie person, if you really enjoyed the substance, which I know we talked a lot about this past year, it was kind of the, the indie horror hit of 2024, you might want to check out the ugly step sister, which is in a similar vein, I would say, kind of the 18th century version of it, where it's a woman trying to, you know, win her way into high society and be respected by the world starts resorting to kind of body horror,

very buzzy on the indie horror market.

So if you're looking for a late night excitement, I think the ugly stepsister could be really fun as well.

If you don't mind your movies being a little graphic and gory and a little cringe inducing in the best way

Pete Schwab (host)

possible.

There's a movie from a local filmmaker, All the Glitters.

I think he's a first time director.

Noah, where did I have that?

I just had that up.

I was just wondering if you knew anything.

Noah

Matt Miller (Milwaukee Film Critic)

Meister.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know that director or that film all the while, but obviously you do have a lot of Cream City Cinema selections as well during the film festival, which is always great.

A lot of really interesting options in that court of courier as well.

I know we talked about a dog documentary.

uh, from a few film festivals ago, but there's one about cats this year called 25 cats from Qatar.

Uh, I think I mispronounced that my apologies.

Um, but, uh, that one is also a cream city cinema documentary about the owner of sipping per cat cafe, trying to bring cats from Doha, the capital of that country where they're having kind of a feral cat crisis there.

And, uh, this owner is trying to bring these cats to America and find them owners and, you know, kind of

give these animals a place to live.

So lots of really fun stuff.

Again, from all over the place, from near, from far, a lot of great movies to check out at the film festival.

From new and old as well, they're going to be screening Nosferatu, the original Nosferatu.

Oh, nice.

They're going to have a live orchestra playing alongside that.

And that movie still holds up.

If you really liked the remake that came out this past Christmas, you'll definitely want to see the original version during the film festival as well.

So yeah, lots of really fun.

You know, there's never a bad year.

Every year I get nervous that this is going to be the year where there's just not that much to see.

And every year I look at the lineup and I'm like, there's not enough hours in the day.

Do I need to eat meals?

Am I okay not seeing the sun for 15 days?

Pete Schwab (host)

That's a good excuse not to do those things though, I think, but I hear you.

Matt Miller is my guest.

He is a Milwaukee based film critic and does great work at his follow him at his sub-stack.

a man about film, right?

At a band about film, I should say.

Matt Miller (Milwaukee Film Critic)

Yeah, a man about film.

Like a man about film, but film.

Pete Schwab (host)

And you can follow him on Blue Sky as well.

Okay, so we've covered some Milwaukee Film Festival stuff.

I'm gonna have several guests, I guess, over the next week or so from the directors from the films, which will be exciting.

But that is a great overview of the festival, Matt.

Can we pivot to a movie that's in theaters right now called Warfare?

I'd love to get your take on that film.

Matt Miller (Milwaukee Film Critic)

Absolutely.

We can absolutely do that.

Pete Schwab (host)

Oh, Matt is a very good cat owner, very patient cat owner.

Matt Miller (Milwaukee Film Critic)

Sorry, I was getting menaced by it.

No, it was very

Pete Schwab (host)

funny because the tail just kind of came up and I'm like, what is that?

I'm like, oh yeah, Matt has a cat.

I forgot about that.

Matt Miller (Milwaukee Film Critic)

Yeah, I forget I have a cat too sometimes.

Pete Schwab (host)

So what was your take?

I saw warfare last weekend.

Didn't know a whole lot about it going in and I love that.

And my son saw it and he said, Dad, you got to see this.

It's phenomenal.

What a unique, is A24 just the coolest studio in the world now?

Are they making really cool stuff that's a little bit different sometimes?

Matt Miller (Milwaukee Film Critic)

They make the movies that Hollywood stopped making.

They make the adult dramas and the interesting kind of experimental, unpredictable movies that the rest of Hollywood's major studios kind of gave up on.

which is, you know, disappointing.

And now, you know, they kind of made their bed and now they're asleep.

They have to sleep in it where, you know, only H24 kind of has the brand to get people to show up to cinemas like the, for movies like Warfare, which I really enjoyed.

I really thought Warfare was really well done.

It's a very intense experience.

I think it's extremely well done in terms of the approach.

in terms of really kind of like there's no characters, there's no story, there's no like mission objectives really.

It is just, you know, a depiction of these guys in the middle of a quagmire that they kind of create.

They're just

Pete Schwab (host)

reacting.

Yeah, it's

Matt Miller (Milwaukee Film Critic)

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think it's a really well done movie.

I know the concept of, you know, war as hell is not exactly a novel concept.

You know, no one at Warfare is getting credit for coming up with the idea that, you know, war is bad.

But I think this is a very really well done version of that.

It's it's it does what movies like Black Hawk Down and Lone Survivor kind of fail to do.

Which those movies kind of end up too entertaining they look they're too flashy when they're trying to make you know movies about you know how war is you know ugly and bad great point made grave mistakes You know Black Hawk Down is first and foremost an action movie, you know lone survivor is a movie that I found really fetishized the soldiers yeah dying to a degree like Whereas warfare is a movie about like there is there's no

There's nothing good to come of this.

Right.

This is just, you know- Let's pick up there after- We had a

Pete Schwab (host)

really short break Matt.

Let's pick up there when we come back.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwab.

We're hanging out with Matt Miller on the Civic Media Radio

Matt Miller (Milwaukee Film Critic)

Network.

Pete Schwabba

Welcome back to Nightlight.

This is Pete Schwabba.

The Milwaukee Film Festival takes place April 24th.

I believe that's Monday, I think, right?

Is that sound right, Conrad?

Matt Miller

Thursday.

Pete Schwabba

Is it Thursday?

Yeah.

Okay, so it's April 24th through May 8th.

check out their film festival.

It's gonna be a great time.

We just talked about some of the offerings this year with Matt Miller, who is our guest right now, Milwaukee Film Critic.

Matt, we were talking about Warfare, and I agree with you.

And that was a great way to put it, fetishizes soldiers.

These guys in Warfare, and this is a reason it's maybe my favorite, if you can have a favorite Warfilm, that sounds terrible, but...

Their reactions and a lot of these guys were concussed after this attack, but it's this build-up There's this great scene where they're a Steve Winwood song Valerie is playing and they're watching an exercise video and then the film just goes in a completely different direction It's the one fun moment in the film.

There's a long build-up Which is probably what it's like and then how they cope with it and they're so

human.

Despite all this Navy SEAL training and how talented these guys are at what they do, I loved how real it seemed.

Matt Miller

Yeah, and it really, it is a fascinating thing where like most of the movie, I would say about half the movie is kind of an intense boredom.

Yeah, where it's just them in this house that they have, you know, came and deared for reasons we don't know why and for reasons that, you know, end up being meaningless.

Right.

Um,

just kind of waiting around, but there is this tension of like any minute now things could go sideways.

But it is just like them sitting around doing nothing and then hell breaks loose.

And it's interesting because hell doesn't break loose in this exciting, thrilling way.

It is a war movie in which there isn't really a cool firefight.

There isn't like a scene of like, you know, a well done action moment or anything.

It is a movie where one, you know, kind of IED goes off.

and it destroys two people and the entire crew, the entire squadron, and it has done almost like a horror movie.

It is not an action movie really.

If you were going into this wanting, you know, guns ablazing action, like, you know, went on a mission, it isn't that.

It is a movie about how...

War is terrible.

And it is terrible to the people in it.

It's the terrible for the people who were involved in Iraq.

I know a lot of people scoffed at, you know, another Iraq war apology a movie, you know, you know, we went and now we make movies about how we feel bad about it.

And it's just like, yeah, I think this movie does a really good job of being like, without being that handholdy thing of like, did you know the Iraq war was bad being like, we did all this dumb.

you know all amped up all thinking we were hot ass and you know all we did was leave behind a broken place and broken people and achieve nothing other than you know wounding a lot of our own people in a lot of cases it's a really well done there's the the famous uh the famous idiom with film criticism of there's no such thing as an anti-war movie

War is inherently exciting and visceral and violent and exciting and loud.

And I think warfare does a pretty good job of being a genuine anti-war movie in terms of being like, this is terrible.

That's how I came away with

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it.

I was like, you want to support the troops?

Don't send them there.

Unless you absolutely have to.

Don't cheapen what these guys do and what they've learned and how we are lucky to have them.

It's just crazy.

Matt, we've got a couple minutes left.

We'll have to have you.

Hopefully, maybe we can get you back on next week and finish part of this conversation.

But in like two minutes or less, what did you think of the amateur?

Uh,

Matt Miller

you know, I don't think of the amateur very much.

It is to quote the kids today.

It's suit.

It's very mid.

Yeah.

I feel bad because, you know, it's, it's, it's a original.

I mean, it's based on a book, but it is a, you know, original movie for adults, you know, out in theaters.

And I just was watching it being like, where's

Where's the interesting angle on this?

You know, where's where's the kind of part to this that seems different?

And for those who don't know, this is the Rami Malik action thriller about a guy who's CIA guy, intelligence officer, whose wife dies in a hostage situation.

So he becomes, you know, an avenging angel.

Avenging analyst.

Yeah, he's just a guy, which I think that would be interesting.

But he ends up like it doesn't do much in an interesting way.

I found that right pretty

It is not the worst movie you'll see this year, but I cannot imagine people remembering that movie a week from

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now.

He's one of the producers and I feel like he was missed.

I didn't buy him in the role.

He's got such a unique look.

I was just kind of like, man, I am really not buying him.

And then he would do something and it's like they didn't set it up or how he did it.

It's just like, oh, he made the door explode because he's smart.

You know, it's just kind of weird.

Matt Miller

It's a movie that can't quite figure out how.

how capable he is supposed to be as, you know, of the revenge.

Is this supposed to be a movie about a guy who's totally new and amateur at this and is bad at it?

Or is he secretly, you know, the coolest guy ever who's secretly really good at this?

They can't kind of, they can't kind of hedge their bets and they're like, well, he's got to be a little cool.

He's got to do a few cool things.

It's just, it's a nothing burger of a movie.

Pete Schwabba

Agreed.

Matt, always fun, buddy.

I get so much more I wanted to get to with you.

Maybe we could set something up.

I'll reach out to you, but thank you so much for your time tonight.

Always fun.

And

Matt Miller

let that cat out.

Let the cat out.

Come

Pete Schwabba

on.

Matt Miller

I know.

I'll let the cat in now.

Let the cat in.

Pete Schwabba

All right.

Matt Miller

One shirt ruined later.

Pete Schwabba

That's Matt Miller.

Check him out at A Man About Film on a sub-stack.

Follow him on Blue Sky.

Always fun to talk to Matt.

Tomorrow night on the show, making the popcorn pick of the week.

Conrad, how excited for you?

You're a sports guy.

I am a sports

Matt Miller

guy.

Who's

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coming?

Who's going to be here?

Well, Civic Media's own Mike Clemens.

Damn right.

Mike Clemens will be here making the popcorn pick of the week.

It's going to be so much fun.

And then Amanda Nimmer joins us in the second hour.

And we'll talk to Amanda what's happened.

We're going to give Amanda a man to walk quiz.

We'll see how she does about that.

We'll have to put our heads together and come up with some cool stuff other than the big three things about Man at the Walk.

But we'll do that tomorrow.

As always, so much fun.

Thank you to Mike Starr, Matt Miller, and all your texts.

And being part of Nightlight, it is always so much fun, folks, to talk to you every night from 6 to 8.

I'm Pete Chihuahua on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad.

Good night,

Matt Miller

Wisconsin.

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