Movies & Barr Band Friday (Hour 2)

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Movies & Barr Band Friday (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Fri Mar 21, 2025

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Chihuahua.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a guy who considers a silver medal, a participation award, Pete Chihuahua.

Welcome tonight, ladies and gentlemen.

There are no participation awards in the NCAA tournament you it's one and done, baby No certificates no plaques I Guess the participation award is just making the tournament.

Conrad (co-host)

Yeah,

Pete Chihuahua (host)

that's kind of a cool thing.

Conrad (co-host)

I mean usually if you're in like It's let's say the horizon league or someone like that.

You're the only one coming out of there So that's got I mean you won the tournament for the horizon league so that means

Pete Chihuahua (host)

He did something good

I have never heard of the Horizon League.

I'm going to assume you're not making that up.

But good for anybody who makes the tournament.

Green Bay's

Conrad (co-host)

in it.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Come

Conrad (co-host)

on.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Milwaukee's

Conrad (co-host)

in it.

Oh, that

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Horizon League.

Conrad (co-host)

He meant the

Pete Chihuahua (host)

one.

OK, I got you.

Green Bay, UWGB Men's is in the Horizon League?

Yes.

Oh, no kidding.

Conrad (co-host)

So is UW Milwaukee.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Yeah, it's a great league.

It's a fine league.

What you've got, you were telling me earlier, some kind of cool stuff, the Green Bay women's team.

What's

Conrad (co-host)

happening there?

Well, they made the tournament in the woman's March madness and they play tomorrow at 12 30 Against Alabama, which it's not a good draw.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

It's a tough draw.

What will that be on like?

Well, they oh, yeah Okay,

Conrad (co-host)

it it's Brock acid just like just like you know the men's

Pete Chihuahua (host)

right

Conrad (co-host)

and that I mean tomorrow the men's don't have as many games now

Pete Chihuahua (host)

I gotta be honest I would rather watch that than two teams I don't know like I would totally cheer on the

Even though they're in the horizon league, which I'm not a fan of that league, obviously, but the Green Bay women's team, I think that would be a phenomenal game.

Conrad (co-host)

Oh, yeah, I'm definitely going to tune into it tomorrow.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

How many screens you got going over there at Casa de Conrad?

Conrad (co-host)

Well, I got, I just got one, but I got YouTube TV, which has the multi-view.

So it's like four screens on one.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Okay.

Conrad (co-host)

And then I have like my laptop to the side with the one game I for sure want on.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

The one the biggie the big yeah, I cannot believe like This is nightlight folks.

We were talking about the NCAA tournament, which is entertainment and it's a very it's one of the most entertaining things yeah all year this this was our question last night and Here's the sad thing, okay?

I Love this tournament.

I love sports, but I love a perfect movie even better

I almost turned off a close game last night to watch To Live In Diane LA, which is this week's classic movie pick

Conrad (co-host)

of the

Pete Chihuahua (host)

week.

And I had to force myself not to do that, because I've seen To Live In Diane LA 10 times.

And I don't know what's going to happen in the game.

So that's unwritten history.

So I stuck with the game.

But it's very entertaining.

The tournament so far, you got McNeese State.

There's a couple good upsets, right?

Conrad (co-host)

McNeese, yes.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Colorado State.

Conrad (co-host)

I mean, surprisingly, a lot of people did actually have McNeese winning against Clemson because Clemson lost to big player on their team.

And honestly, did you watch that game?

Pete Chihuahua (host)

No, I, were we in the air or was that right before?

Conrad (co-host)

No, that was before.

I was in the car.

I mean, it just did not look like they even wanted to be there.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Who McNeese?

Conrad (co-host)

No, Clemson.

Oh, Clemson.

Okay.

You know, honestly, it felt like they, they, they didn't even win their, um, their, their, uh,

They're ACC.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Conference tournament.

Conrad (co-host)

Yeah, but it just didn't look good.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

We got an upset brewing here.

Florida is only up 19 on Norfolk State with 10 minutes left to

Conrad (co-host)

go on the first.

There was actually a really exciting game today, which it wasn't even the upset I'm talking about either.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Colorado State.

Conrad (co-host)

It was Ole Miss in North Carolina.

Oh yeah.

North Carolina was down 22.

And they brought it back to a two point game.

Fortunately lost still.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Yeah.

Conrad (co-host)

But it was, it was, it was some great basketball.

But one of the reporters said, you know, people will talk about how they had many opportunities.

They could have won this game, but it's like the first half was terrible.

They were down by 22.

That's the reason they lost, not because they missed opportunities.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Right.

I think I'm in three brackets.

I'm crushing in one purely luck.

I'm getting crushed in another all skill.

And then the civic media want to have to figure out a way to check, because if I had picked all the right upsets in one bracket, that's what you want to do.

The problem is I've got this upset going here, this upset going here, and I don't know that it's going to produce a winner for me.

But I picked North Carolina in all of my brackets because I thought they're going to tick people off.

Nobody wanted them in.

They got in.

Now I know they're going to win because that's what North Carolina or Duke does.

But North Carolina lost, so it's a non-issue.

Conrad (co-host)

I can tell you what place you're in in the Civic Media Pool.

Oh,

Pete Chihuahua (host)

lay it on

Conrad (co-host)

me.

25th.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Out of how many?

Conrad (co-host)

Well, there's a lot.

But a lot of people are tied for places.

I'm in last.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

You're

Conrad (co-host)

in last

Pete Chihuahua (host)

place?

Conrad (co-host)

With Jimmy Kuska, which is hilarious.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Sports fanatics.

Yeah, I don't... 25th.

There's gotta be, what, 50 people in my middle of the pack?

Conrad (co-host)

Uh, I would say you're down by me.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

That's...

Only that many people signed up for the civic media.

No, there's a lot of people.

There's a decent amount.

You said you're dead last, though.

I'm dead last with Jimmy, yes.

Are you saying I'm in the lower fourth quadrant or something

Conrad (co-host)

like that?

Yes.

So there's seven people with you in 25th, or six, sorry.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

So I'm tied for 25th with six

Conrad (co-host)

other people.

And Jimmy and I are dead last.

I'm tied for dead last.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

I am at first in one.

I'm tied for first with eight other people.

That was before the Colorado State upset.

I don't think I picked that in that one So I don't in fact I picked I did pick a lot of upsets early on I do that I try to get the upsets and then my final four typically I don't think I have a seed higher than fourth in the final four so

Conrad (co-host)

Well, I totally just went for upsets in this one.

I had Liz comb who lost today by a lot.

Yeah going to the lead eight

Oh, wow.

Actually, yeah, so that's kind of on me.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Well, you

Conrad (co-host)

can't get them all.

Aren't you in like 30?

Yeah.

I did have a perfect bracket today until Memphis lost.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

I would love it if you told me.

I'm in 30, but I pick the same picks in every one of them.

It's like buying the same

Conrad (co-host)

lottery ticket

Pete Chihuahua (host)

number and buying 100 of them.

Hey, all right.

Despite all this fun talk about the NCAA Tournament, folks, we have a very packed show tonight.

Great guests.

This is going to be fun.

We're going to get out of this week and head into the weekend in style.

Our first guest tonight is at 6.35.

Don Brown, the host of This Week in Walk-A-Shot.

Don does such a great job.

I've been on his show a couple of times, and he, Don, is up bright and early.

every Saturday morning.

It's such a fun show.

And he tells you what's going on in Waukesha, but Don has such, he's got such an easy to listen to voice.

It's a good show.

And no matter where you're from in Wisconsin, you should tune in and check out this week in Waukesha.

Don does a great job.

He will be here at 635 talking about a new podcast he just launched.

So that will be fun.

I've been waiting to have Don.

Don was on like nine months ago, right?

Yeah, something like that.

I wouldn't return my calls.

I don't know what's going on.

And then at 7.05, Sean Hannish will be here, the director of Just A Bit Outside, the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers.

I would say a rousing success on the documentary film market.

It played here in Wisconsin at Marcus Theaters and probably a few other places as well.

And I believe you can stream it now on the Roku channel.

Conrad (co-host)

I believe so.

And if you haven't watched it, it's a great watch.

If you love baseball or just love the Brewers.

You gotta check it

Pete Chihuahua (host)

out.

I haven't seen it yet.

And I was the one, like I reached out to Sean a couple of days ago and I said, Hey, you're just, he's got a couple of screenings coming up in Wisconsin.

So I assume that meant I couldn't stream it yet.

And on the way in today, I'm like, wait, Roku TV.

Cause typically a film when they're still on the festival circuit, they're not streaming yet.

And I just kind of made that assumption, but I'll probably watch it this week.

And I'm very excited.

Heard nothing but great stuff about this documentary.

And Sean will be here at 7.05 to tell you where you can see it in Wisconsin.

He's got a couple of big screenings coming up soon.

And we'll get some clarification on the streaming issue as well.

Sean was on the show about five months ago, right before they released the film.

So it's always fun to talk to someone like it was with Anders Linwall.

Like, how do you feel now?

The film is out.

It's a success.

So very anxious to have Sean back on the show.

That will be fun.

And then...

It is a bar band Friday night, folks.

We didn't think it was going to happen because Terry Barr is on vacation.

And how can we do a bar band Friday night without Terry Barr?

I'll tell you how.

We have her partner in crime on Max Inc Radio.

Rocker will join us tonight.

He is filling in for his co-host and is bringing.

Rocker is doing things differently.

Conrad (co-host)

He

Pete Chihuahua (host)

doesn't roll like Terry.

I don't know how those two get along on that show, but it's a long running show.

It's award-winning.

They make it work.

But Rocker is bringing little bits of a lot of different songs from a lot of different groups.

So that'll be fun to change things up a little bit too.

Excited to have Rocker here at 735.

Great guests, as you can tell.

Today, all right, we are on a roll here, folks, with food questions.

And we're gonna keep that train moving.

Today is National Crunchy Taco Day.

National Crunchy Taco Day.

Soft tacos, we have no use for you on nightlight time.

But this national day that should be celebrated leads us to our question of the night.

Jim Gaffigan (clip)

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Conrad (co-host)

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Jim Gaffigan (clip)

Question.

Conrad (co-host)

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

What is your favorite Mexican food?

Last night it was what's your favorite Italian dish?

Very popular question tonight.

We're switching ethnicities at least when it comes to food although Conrad might become Irish What is your favorite Mexican food I?

Almost wanted to specify or drill this down a little more and ask what is your favorite taco?

Like is it shrimp regular taco, but I think Mexican food opens it up a little more.

I like

I like a lot of Mexican food, but here's what's gonna make this question tough.

I think we should play our clip from Jim Gaffigan, who can put some clarification on this.

Jim Gaffigan (clip)

Mexican food's great, but it's essentially all the same ingredients, so you'd always have to, as a weighty, you'd have to deal with these stupid questions.

People'd be like, what is nachos?

Nachos?

Tortilla with cheese, meat, or vegetables.

Oh, and then what is a burrito?

Tortilla with cheese, meat, or vegetable.

But then what is a tostata?

Tortilla with cheese meat or vegetables?

Well then what is- look it's all the same!

Why don't you say a Spanish word and I'll bring you something?

Mexican food is great, but it is all the same.

It's almost a conspiracy.

It's almost like they had a meeting 200 years ago in Mexico City and one guy stood up and was like, hey, look, the reason I got everyone here is pretty simple.

I figure we could rename this one entree seven times and sell it to the North Americans.

The French said it would be a good idea.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Ah, that's great.

Now, in defense of Mexican food, you could kind of say the same thing about Italian food.

It's pasta, meat, red sauce.

Conrad and I will give our answers when we come back after a short break.

But I will say this, I don't like Mexican, I don't like refried beans.

Oh, gross.

The lard creeps me out.

I always ask, but sometimes when there's like a language thing you get mixed up, mixed up when I say no refried beans, they think I want extra refried beans.

So we will give you our answers when we come up.

What is your favorite Mexican food?

That is tonight's Question of the Night.

We're coming right back on Night Light with Peach Waba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Show Announcer

Welcome back.

Pete Schwab (host)

This is Night Light.

I am your host, Pete Schwab.

Great to have you with us, regardless of where you are joining the show from across the state of Wisconsin as we broadcast from beautiful downtown Green Bay.

The snow is basically almost gone.

Conrad (co-host)

There's going to be more snow on Monday.

Pete Schwab (host)

I need to say basically more.

So the Badgers play tomorrow at night.

That's kind of cool.

Okay, I like that.

Conrad (co-host)

It's a tough matchup.

Pete Schwab (host)

I think we can

Conrad (co-host)

do

Pete Schwab (host)

it.

It is a tough matchup, but they got to be tested.

They got to come out.

I thought, like we talked about yesterday, a little lackluster yesterday.

It's any urgency.

And we've got a possible upset brewing, folks.

What are they winning by now?

Conrad (co-host)

A lot.

They're winning 42 to

Pete Schwab (host)

14.

I've lost the game.

That's not comfortable for me.

You need at least a 50 point lead going into halftime.

Conrad (co-host)

Actually, Duke won by 50 something today.

See, they just irritate me.

Pete Schwab (host)

That is how every team should come out.

The Badgers should have won by 30 yesterday.

Conrad (co-host)

There's

Pete Schwab (host)

a reason Duke is Duke, and I can't stand them, but I don't know.

Our question tonight, ladies and gentlemen, is what is your favorite Mexican food?

And I'm gonna say, I'm gonna go through the whole thing.

I want chips and guac to start.

Conrad (co-host)

Okay.

Pete Schwab (host)

And then I want fish tacos.

Maybe shrimp, just fish tacos.

I trust the establishment owners.

Give me some fish tacos, some lime, and some great rice.

That's my Mexican, that's my favorite Mexican food.

I am a sucker for a good burrito, but I'll start with the tacos.

More manageable.

What about you?

Conrad (co-host)

I'm going to have to say this, like the same start, but

Pete Schwab (host)

I want

Conrad (co-host)

salsa with it as well.

So I can mix.

Pete Schwab (host)

Okay.

Oh, you do the guac and then the salsa.

Conrad (co-host)

No, no, no.

Just like if I'm gets, gets sick and tired of guac, a little salsa.

Okay.

Fair

Pete Schwab (host)

enough.

Conrad (co-host)

And then I'm going to go with the enchilada.

Pete Schwab (host)

Enchilada.

Conrad (co-host)

I just love that, that sauce on top.

I forget what it's even called.

Pete Schwab (host)

That's the nuance.

Conrad (co-host)

Is that cheese, right?

Pete Schwab (host)

Oh, like

Conrad (co-host)

queso or something?

Yeah, queso on top.

Yeah, it's so good.

Pete Schwab (host)

I think that's not specific.

I think it just depends on from restaurant to

Conrad (co-host)

restaurant.

Pete Schwab (host)

Yeah.

Don Brown, our guest at 635, checks in on the stream.

He says steak enchiladas, homemade guac, steak burrito.

Don just gave us three choices.

And they're all delicious.

Conrad (co-host)

And wait, we forgot.

What are you going to wash it down with if you're at a Mexican restaurant?

Pete Schwab (host)

Well, typically, a couple of years ago, it would have been a humongous margarita with double the tequila.

Because I can only drink margaritas if they're not that sweet.

So it sounds like I have a problem, but I like the double tequila.

It's just very tasty.

What do you do?

Conrad (co-host)

You got to go with the margarita.

There was one time, I think it was my dad who did this.

You put the Corona in the margarita.

Like Corona's upside down in it.

I forget what it's like.

I forget what it's called.

I have to look it up.

Well, my dad had that one.

Pete Schwab (host)

I was like, what is that monstrosity?

There is a name for that.

It's called insanity.

Yeah.

Steve, come on.

Wow.

Really?

Conrad (co-host)

I'm going to look

Pete Schwab (host)

it up.

So we just heard Jim Gaffigan's Mexican bit.

Very funny bit.

But a lot of those you could kind of say that about.

a lot of different ethnic foods too, I think, that it's all the same stuff.

But that's our question tonight.

Folks, be part of the show.

What is your favorite Mexican dish?

It is National Taco Day.

On the text line, Anna from Madison says, hi, Pete and Conrad, my favorite Mexican food is cheese enchiladas with beans and rice washed down with a Doseckis Mexican beer.

If there is a room, if there is room, a flan for dessert.

Anna with the detail, I love it.

Yeah, the rice.

I love Mexican rice Monica from Mount Horrib says cheese and jalapeno tamales Oh followed by tray Letch's cake.

Conrad (co-host)

I forgot about tamales saying

Pete Schwab (host)

that

Conrad (co-host)

right.

Oh

Pete Schwab (host)

You know what I have a weird thing about tamales When I was a kid I was so unfussy about what I ate and I grew up in the city Chicago on the Northwest side.

There was a trailer

about three blocks away and they had, you know, Chicago dogs and beef sandwiches.

They used to sell their bread, their bread for the Italian beef sandwiches.

They would dunk that in the beef juice and sell it for 25 cents, two halves.

And they called it dunk bread, 25 cents and eat bread soaked with beef juice.

It was the most delicious thing I've ever had.

But they also had the Chicago fast food tamale are these little processed.

Conrad (co-host)

Yeah.

Pete Schwab (host)

I like, I grew up.

Eating them so I like them better than actual tamales.

How sad is that?

It does because I love tamales.

Yeah I'm with you Monica.

That's great.

And she says oh and a guava margarita.

Oh, there you go Everybody going for the margaritas tonight Tyler from Wisconsin Rapid says the worm on the bottom of the bottle.

That's Tyler's meal Tyler's kind of a jokester.

I don't know if you picked up on that over the last time throw us some some

Some good stuff every once in a while.

Thank you guys for the text.

Keep in comment.

What is your favorite Mexican meal or food?

It is National Taco Day.

We're celebrating that.

And our food questions have done very well on the text line.

People love chiming in about food.

So we'll hold Don Brown's feet to the fire a little bit closer when he's here and make him specify exactly what meal he likes the best.

We've got, have you been watching Reacher?

Conrad (co-host)

You know, I started watching it after season two.

I don't know.

I just, I have, cause there's three seasons now, right?

Pete Schwab (host)

The third one is out that we're waiting, but they're doing it like it's prime.

So they're dropping it one at one at a time, like every week.

I can't stand

Conrad (co-host)

that.

I'm only, I only have room for one show like that.

And that's the white load is for me.

Pete Schwab (host)

Okay.

Conrad (co-host)

Anything else I'll actually lose a lot of patience.

Pete Schwab (host)

White Lotus, there are some shows where I'm fine watching one a week.

Like, if there's a cliffhanger episode, I'd like to be able to watch the first 10 minutes of the next one just to see what happens with that.

But White Lotus, I'm fine with.

It's just good writing, but I don't crave another episode all the time.

Sometimes I want to see what happens, but I'm with you on that.

Reacher, on the other hand, I like the show.

I don't love the show.

Season two, I didn't really like that much.

But season three has one more episode to go.

So I'll have to see what happens with that.

And I am going to stick with Severance, I think.

Those are my two shows for now.

And I got to tell you, I almost got pulled over.

Conrad (co-host)

Oh, no.

Pete Schwab (host)

Well, I didn't almost get pulled over.

I was driving by a cop.

I was doing about 80 and 65, which is faster than I usually drive.

And I don't know.

I looked right at him, though.

That's what I do.

I don't like sometimes you drive by a cop and you act like you don't see him.

You don't know what to do.

I looked right at him while I drove past like.

I know, I'm going fast.

Like I was trying to fess up.

All right.

Don Brown is coming up.

Ladies and gentlemen, after Civic Media's award-winning news team tells you what's up, you're here on a great night.

Sean Hannes is here.

Rocker's here.

And Don Brown coming up next.

It's Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio

Show Announcer

Network.

of acrobatics.

Pete Schwabba

We have some breaking news from the tournament, ladies and gentlemen.

Conrad, let's do that.

16th seed, Norfolk State has cut the lead to 31.

Florida is now up 52 to 21, but

Don Brown

they

Pete Schwabba

have shaved a few points off that since we last checked.

Only three minutes to go for the half.

Until they have now it's 32 points.

Don Brown

I heard they're second half team.

So

Pete Schwabba

they are second half team I don't even know if they're a team 32 points the first half and then The text line Nick from Marshall says Pardon me Nick from Marshall says ground beef chimichanga and a bottle of either Jiritos or Goya soda.

I hope I'm saying that right

Yeah.

Uh, he says no alcohol for me.

And then continues says tipsy cow makes a really good PBR bettered fish taco.

Interesting.

Nick's in the six oh eight.

So I assume he means that's in Madison.

I love a fish taco.

Well said, Nick.

Uh, Gordy from Oregon.

He's also in the six oh eight says Play-Doh mixed dough.

It's not like an idiot.

I don't care.

Don Brown

I know what that is.

Pete Schwabba

I don't know how to say it's like a mixed plate.

I think just like a sample sample platter at El Pastor South or at South Park Street Madison or Mahi fish tacos when traveling Gordy apparently does not like the mix the fish tacos in Madison's we only get some money travels But yeah, that's I love a seafood platter.

You ever get one of those like when you're at a restaurant that

Don Brown

is

Pete Schwabba

pretty decent seafood

Keep those texts coming folks.

What is your favorite man?

I'll I'll try not to torture the the language either But if you want to spell it out for me, that'd be great.

All right, we are going to welcome our first guest of the night I'm very excited to have this guy and I'm gonna challenge him on something.

I hope he's ready I'm gonna ask him to back up his words.

He might not remember this but I am gonna say something about it It is my pleasure to welcome back tonight light my pal and the host of this week in Waukesha

here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Mr. Don Brown, Don, how are ya?

I'm great,

Don Brown

Pete, how are you?

Can you hear me okay?

Pete Schwabba

I can hear you great.

You look

Don Brown

great, you

Pete Schwabba

sound great, love the living room, the baby grand in the back, it looks fantastic.

I've used that background myself.

I was about

Don Brown

to say, I feel like you have the same piano.

Here you are, my house.

This is my second home.

Yeah,

Pete Schwabba

you weekend there.

You gotta have a fireplace and a piano where you weekend, I agree.

Don Brown

Absolutely.

Pete Schwabba

Hey, it's great to have you, buddy.

Don Brown

Really great to be here.

Thanks for having me on Pete.

Pete Schwabba

So if you had to pick you said you like steak enchiladas homemade guac or a steak burrito What if you had to narrow that down the guac you could just have with anything?

Don Brown

Let's not even cuz I love it all it would be like if there was an authentic

Olive Garden type Mexican restaurant like family.

Oh, it's that one.

There's only thing at Olive Garden the trio where you got like your three different pastas So you can choose from yeah, I think that that's what it would be for me because I love all Mexican food and it's just like you said it's protein Tortillas and cheese yeah, whatever that other but I was thinking because you said you're you grew up in the Northwest side of Chicago.

You might remember

on Clark Street in the north side, and then closer to Lake Andersonville or Edgewater.

There was one on every other block.

Counter service, you know, Mexican restaurant.

After a long night of drinking, you'd get these like football-sized burritos.

Oh, wow.

And you'd have steak and beans and scrambled eggs.

And you could really only eat half of it at a time.

And that would, you know, soak up all the booze.

And when you wake up in the morning,

And you had your perfect, like, hangover burger, but your hangover burrito, and all you had to do was heat it up.

Pete Schwabba

Second half, yeah.

Don Brown

Fantastic, yeah.

So that was a favor.

But you mentioned that you like fish tacos, right, Pete?

Pete Schwabba

Yeah.

Don Brown

So if we ever get you to Waukesha on a Friday, the raised grain brewery right down the street from my house has this wonderful blackened cod taco.

Conrad

Oh,

Don Brown

wow.

And that's the only time they serve it.

During the week is on Friday lunch from like it's like 11 to 2 or something like that, but it's it's worth the trip It's one of the best I've ever had

Pete Schwabba

That sounds amazing.

I like black and fish, almost any kind.

Don Brown

Me too.

I don't

Pete Schwabba

remember those places you're talking about, those specifically, but when I was in college, we used to go to like, it was somewhere, now it's a gorgeous neighborhood, west of the loop, but it was a little dicey back then, but they, I think they, I think on the menu it said burritos the size of your head.

That's what they, and that's what we used to order, and we would just tear into it like it was a discovery channel kill or

Don Brown

something, you know.

I think all the other places just mimicked that.

They saw how well they were doing and like, yeah, why not?

Pete Schwabba

That's great.

All right, so I have to hold your feet to the fire on something, Don.

Don Brown

Yes.

Pete Schwabba

A few weeks ago, a couple weeks ago,

Don Brown

last

Pete Schwabba

week, actually just happened.

You said on the Civic Media Chat, you were the most Irish of anybody in civic media.

Don Brown

I truly believe that.

How do you know that?

There's four square.

I'm four square, meaning I'm like, all four grandparents are virus descent.

Conrad

OK.

Don Brown

My father's parents came over from County Clair during the war for independence.

My grandfather was actually in the Civil War, got out, looked like by the skin of his teeth, and met my grandmother in Buffalo, where my family's from.

And through my grandfather, I have dual citizenship.

Now brown with the knee looks very English, but we're actually very Irish So I have a hard time dealing with that but my mother was a McNamara her mother was a Ryan and her people came over during on Gortha more the great famine and Irish married Irish for generations and worked on the railroads most of that family and So yeah, I'm 100% I used to work in Ireland

No kidding.

I've been there, you know, stayed with family.

Yes, I've been on several trips and it's a real passion of mine.

I've been working on a, I have a book idea about a great uncle of mine that was a big, you know, gay football hero in Ireland and was involved in the War for Independence and that's been a 20 year project that I finally need to finish.

But yeah, I know Irish music.

When I managed in Evans, you know, when I worked with Julie.

My sister, yeah.

We had some of the best traditional music, perhaps anywhere in the world.

You know, Chicago is a hotbed for great traditional Irish music.

And we had like some of the biggest names, John Williams, not the Star Wars, John Williams.

Pete Schwabba

Right.

Don Brown

In the Irish realm, he is that John Williams.

And another Liz Carroll, who's considered one of the greatest fiddlers like in the whole world.

Very nice.

All

Pete Schwabba

right.

Well,

Don Brown

you totally put

Pete Schwabba

me in my place, Don.

You backed

Don Brown

up your words.

But I don't know.

I don't know if you listen to Maggie Dawn's show, but I didn't realize she's very Irish too.

She did a whole St.

Patrick's Day, kind of took a step away from politics and talked about Milwaukee's Irish heritage.

And I thought that was a great show.

So hats off to Maggie.

Pete Schwabba

I'm about probably 60 to 70% somewhere.

I'm

Don Brown

saddled with the

Pete Schwabba

last name of Schwabba.

I'm not really sure.

But

Don Brown

I've

Pete Schwabba

got my mom's a Murphy, my grandma was a Griffin.

I can't

Don Brown

remember Julie telling me that because Julie looks very Irish.

She does.

And my

Pete Schwabba

favorite thing, I love Irish dancing.

I grew up around all that.

They would come in to the schools, the Catholic schools

Don Brown

in

Pete Schwabba

Chicago.

Whenever I would throw back a few with my Irish friends in college Sometimes that always didn't go so well and I knew a guy who got into a fight with another guy because the other guy was from Dublin And my friend was saying I'm a hundred percent Irish and the guy from Dublin was saying no you're not Where do you live and he was saying Chicago he goes well then you're not really Irish

Don Brown

they threw down Don nice the guy from Chicago is probably more Irish than the Viking from Dublin so I'm with the I'm with your guy from Chicago

Pete Schwabba

I didn't know who I was with.

I just wanted to get out of there.

But let's talk about some more serious radio business.

You do a great job with This Week in Waukesha.

We'll talk about that.

Don Brown

But you have a new

Pete Schwabba

podcast on.

Tell us about that.

Don Brown

Well, that's essentially what it is.

The concept This Week in Waukesha as a radio show has now gravitated away from radio now to podcast.

And so I no longer have to get up at four in the morning to prepare for my seven and nine show.

I do miss that, but I also miss, you know, we used to have the studio in Waukesha.

So for me, as a former alderman, I used to call it the office of former Alderman Don Paul Brown.

And so people could come see me in person and we'd get a lot of work done for the city.

It was great stuff.

But now we're in this excellent studio and racing and radio.

What are they called Radio City or there's another name for it, but I don't know if you've been there yet, but it's beautiful.

I have not I hear

Pete Schwabba

it's gorgeous.

Don Brown

It was built for radio and it's I felt like Howard Stern like couple times I went down there to do my show so but Civic Media wants to make a big commitment to podcast because they're all the rage, you know radio obviously is still the the favorite song it's the mature offering and having local radio is essential but

I've heard great things about podcasts.

So when when they approached me about moving to a podcast, I said, yeah, great, because they get great listenerships.

And what's also changed is instead of a two hour show, it's two 20 minute interviews in the podcast.

Conrad

Okay.

Don Brown

And so there's no commercial breaks, none of that.

I don't get to put in the music, which I miss, but you get to have some really great conversations with people that are making a difference where we live.

I always talk about like when I was on one of your shows previously, or I think when you were on mine, we talked about a Wisconsin state of mind that people anywhere around the state should be listening to your show.

And I know you're syndicated and all of them, but I also think when people have a chance, they should listen to my podcast because, you know, Waukesha is very much a big part of Wisconsin.

You know, we're, we're home to the oldest university, Carroll University.

We are a second city to the state's biggest city.

We're in one of the most affluent counties.

A lot of things happen in Waukesha that I think they affect the rest of the state or oftentimes are influenced by what's going on in the rest of the state.

And there are so many common bonds that I've noticed as a transplant that unite us all as Wisconsinites or cheeseheads or badgers, if you will.

And so that's why I'm glad to share all the great stories about Waukesha.

It's a birthplace of Les Paul.

There's like so many great innovations that they came out of here.

You know, great music.

Yeah, Rackers from Waukesha.

Your next guy.

I was really honored to be on the same ticket as Rackers.

Oh, wow.

All

Pete Schwabba

right, Conrad, let's not let that get passed,

Don Brown

though.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah.

We gotta bring that up with

Don Brown

Rackers.

His brother, Dan, owns an authentic vinyl record store in downtown Waukesha.

Oh, nice.

That is worth a visit.

They have really cool t-shirts.

And yeah, it's a really cool scene.

So I mean, there's a great music history in that family.

Pete Schwabba

My guest is Don Brown.

He is the host of This Week in Waukesha.

And now, I'm sorry, I might have missed this, Don.

Is the podcast name the same, This Week in Waukesha?

Don Brown

It is, yeah.

They decided they wanted to keep the same name.

They wanted, you know, Waukesha to be a central topic.

But I have guests on that aren't from Waukesha, or they may be a little further out in Waukesha County.

But my guests from last week,

was a good friend all the way from high school has a really important think tank out of Washington DC called Truth in Common, which basically it's a nonprofit that works with local communities, organizations and people that teach them how to address misinformation and how to have civil conversations with people that you don't agree with politically, which we see a lot more of unfortunately.

And doing really important work.

But I think that's relevant to Waukesha and to Wisconsin, of course.

We're, I guess, one of those battleground states.

Absolutely.

Pete Schwabba

Don, Greg on the text line says, Carol University just took a group of 30 students to Ireland.

We have a biology teacher who's native Irish.

Don might

Don Brown

know

Pete Schwabba

him.

Kevin McMahon, you've got fans talking to you on the text line.

I love that.

Don Brown

Yeah, I bet that's Greg Wandsneider.

who works at he works at carol okay and he's also a he's a walk shot north graduate and just a wonderful guy he's he's good friends with greg back our producer okay who does um

up north news and Matt Nair on air.

He must be

Pete Schwabba

tied in because he says the

Don Brown

studio.

He's very tied in, yeah.

Yeah, he says the

Pete Schwabba

studio in Racine is called Radio Park, so Greg knows

Don Brown

that.

Radio Park, thank you.

I can't believe I goofed on that.

Pete Schwabba

He also says Waukesha is the goat, Don is also the goat.

Don Brown

Oh, that's very nice.

Thank you.

Triple G is one of his names.

He could be a rapper, in my opinion.

Pete Schwabba

His first name is overwhelmingly G. He's got three Gs packed

Don Brown

into a five-letter name.

I think I love that.

Pete Schwabba

Greg, thank

Don Brown

you for the text.

Born and raised and a true son of Waukesha, very proud son of Waukesha.

That's awesome.

Sure, Racker knows him, too.

He'll probably send Racker a message as well.

Pete Schwabba

Are you on?

What do you have lined up for tomorrow morning, Don, or on the podcast?

Don Brown

So tomorrow morning on the podcast.

So the podcast, we record them at basically between 11 and 12.

And then they usually go live shortly after that.

And that's a nice thing about podcasts is that you can you can visit the page anytime and watch different.

You know, there's a kind of a unique culture to podcast.

So it's like, I don't have to necessarily, in fact, I kind of have to steer away from reporting on timely news.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah.

Don Brown

but really focus on, I mean, I'll mention things, especially historic things that are going on.

So like a, when I tomorrow show, I'll mention that a couple of new restaurants that opened up in downtown Waukesha, a couple of new bars.

And we're excited about that.

Let's jump into

Pete Schwabba

that.

Let's talk more about that.

We're going to do a really short breakdown.

So sit tight, and we'll come back, and we'll talk about that Wisconsin state of mind, too.

I like that.

Don Brown is here,

Don Brown

ladies and

Pete Schwabba

gentlemen.

Host of This Week in Waukesha, taking some time out to join us on a Friday.

We're coming right back.

It's Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media, radio network.

John Gries

Hey, this is John Gries, also Uncle Rico, and you're listening to Nightlight of Peach Waba.

All right, I'm gonna give... I'm not gonna give any updates on the tournament, because I don't want people to, like, all of a sudden ditch us.

Folks all the games right now are clunkers.

Don't even waste your time.

I am told by CBS and their affiliates.

They are expected to get pretty pretty exciting after 8 o'clock.

So there you go Welcome back.

Sean Hannish will be here after the news at 705 talking about his documentary

Just a bit outside, the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers, which has a couple of really cool screenings coming up here

Don Brown

in Wisconsin.

I can't wait to

John Gries

see that.

Yeah, me too, Don.

I just cannot wait to see.

Is that on the stream yet?

I think it is and I think I

Don Brown

just

John Gries

it might be available on Roku We're gonna ask Sean about that because I didn't think it was typically when a film is still in its festival run Yeah, you can't get it yet, but this one might be out so we'll we'll

Don Brown

find

John Gries

that out and But okay, so let's talk Don you Don Brown is here check out his show and his podcast this week in Washington this week in Waukesha We both did you grow up in Chicago?

I

Don Brown

mean, I was born and raised in Buffalo, New York, in Orchard

Pete Schwabba

Park.

Oh, that's right.

Don Brown

OK.

The Green Bay of the East.

And I was a big Bill's fan.

But I did kind of grow up in Chicago because I went there in my 20s.

And my mentor in the restaurant business, may he rest in peace, he had a motto that you're never too late to have a happy childhood.

And that was Chicago for me during the 20s and 30s.

Pete Schwabba

I was

Don Brown

exposed to so much great music.

So many interesting people, you know, great culture, amazing food, of course.

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba

You

Don Brown

know, Chicago in many ways, Evanston in many ways was like the buffalo of my dreams.

John Gries

You know,

Don Brown

Evanston

John Gries

always reminded me a little bit of Madison.

It's got kind of that cool vibe.

It's vibrant.

There's a great big 10 school there.

And I don't want to talk about Chicago right now, but I, because

Pete Schwabba

I

John Gries

love living there.

I love growing up there.

When I moved to Wisconsin, I was reluctant as a kid.

Love it now.

And

Pete Schwabba

I

John Gries

think like I've lived different places.

I've liked everywhere I've lived.

I

Pete Schwabba

find

John Gries

people to be pretty good all over, but you and I on your show recently.

And since we've both lived in Chicago, you cannot deny there is a Wisconsin.

It's almost like a mentality or a state of mind or whatever.

When I came up here as a kid vacationing, where I live now, it's very serene.

What is that?

Do you still find that living in Waukesha or is it a Northwoods thing?

Don Brown

No, I mean, Waukesha has got a lot of green space.

It might be one of the biggest cities geographically in the county.

And my big joke was that

the county got tired of running out of names for the towns.

And they said, screw it, let's just call it Waukesha.

But there is, it's neat because it's a city of 70,000 people.

As I mentioned, it's got a great university.

The downtown is really thriving.

I know when you have Rack around the show, he'll talk about a time when downtown was all boarded up and he used to get some great rental fees on a lot of the bands there.

got some great studio rental space

Pete Schwabba

for

Don Brown

you know pretty cheap and so but um yeah no it's just a great but there's also you drive around and there's a lot of green space the parks are amazing and um there's a lot of people that they all a lot of them have second homes up in the north woods as you say and um they they love that i also love too the milwaukee area my wife's family her father's family had a place on lake okachi which is um

I think just past Okonomak.

It's like a 25 minute drive from our house in Waukesha.

Her mother's family had a place way up past Monaco, I think it was, or past Rhinelander.

And so she kind of had the best.

But I love that idea that you could just drive 25 minutes to your summer home,

Pete Schwabba

your

Don Brown

cottage.

You'll spend a day, get a day, or spend a night.

And so I think, yeah, there's just a lot.

And, you know, there's the fish fry.

There's, you know, our love for cheese packers.

And, you know, it's funny growing up in Orchard Park, New York, I probably have more connections to Packer Nation than most Milwaukee Packer fans do because a lot of the great Packer legends did their coaching duties in Buffalo, like Jim Ringo,

Pete Schwabba

the Hall of

Don Brown

Fame Center, Elijah Pitts is son Ron, another Packer, played high school football with my brother.

And so many others like that, that did

Pete Schwabba

their

Don Brown

stints in Buffalo.

So I got to know a lot of these guys.

And you know, I was a child of the 70s and you had all those NFL highlight shows, great teams, great years was

Pete Schwabba

a few reasons.

Of course,

Don Brown

the Packers were a big part of that.

And so even though I was a Bill's fan, the Packers for many, you know, in many ways were like my NFC team.

Yeah.

And oh, Magic was from Buffalo too.

Oh, Damakowski.

Yeah.

Silly me.

I went Magic Johnson.

You're talking about.

Magic Johnson was from Lansing.

He was a Spartan like me.

So yeah, we have connections of both magics.

John Gries

Nice.

Hey, Don, we have about a minute left.

Don Brown

Okay.

John Gries

We talked about TV and movies when I was on your show.

I'd like to extend you the same courtesy in under a minute.

Are you watching something you can recommend?

Don Brown

1923.

Yes.

Now that season two has finally come along.

It's yeah, God.

and it's really slow developing.

Have you been watching it?

You know what I mean?

John Gries

No, I actually, well I watched season one, loved it, but they're doing that thing where they drop one episode a week and I hate that, so I'm letting

Don Brown

them build up.

I know, I know, I gotta take a few weeks off or something.

Yeah.

They're going to church.

I didn't

John Gries

say that.

One of the actors, Jamie McShane, was

Don Brown

on the show.

John Gries

He had it been out in a second.

So I'm kind of letting my episodes build up, but that's on

Don Brown

my list.

I love that

John Gries

show.

Yeah.

Don Brown

Yeah, you're right to do that.

John Gries

Hey man.

Best of luck with the podcast.

Thanks so much, Pete.

Keep bringing the truth to the people and shooting us straight.

And

Don Brown

it's just

John Gries

awesome having you on the show.

Don Brown

We'll figure out a Saturday in the spring sometime to have you on and talk about this Wisconsin state of mind.

I would absolutely rocker for me and.

Thank you to Conrad and of course to you Pete.

Thanks again.

You gotta have a great night.

John Gries

Go belt out a tune on the piano.

They're done.

All right, Tom Brown.

Check out this week in Waukesha.

Great show and now a great podcast.

We're coming right back after the news with a director of just a bit outside.

The story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers.

Sean Hannish joins us next on Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio

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And now a guy still not convinced computers are here to stay, Pete Chwaba.

Pete Chwaba

Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

Great to have you with me on this Friday night as we bring to a close yet another week It's we inch toward summer here in the state of Wisconsin great to have you with me our question of the night is what is your favorite Mexican food is national taco day and That's the question.

We were asking tonight.

So we've gotten a lot of great answers Most people want a margarita with whatever Mexican food it is

And we played the great Jim Gavigan bit about how Mexican food is basically all the same, the same ingredients, but I think you could say that for a lot of ethnic foods too.

So our question tonight though, be part of the show.

What is your favorite Mexican food?

It is a bar ban Friday night in place of Terry Barr tonight who was on vacation.

We went to the bullpen and we got the lefty.

Conrad is rocker or lefty?

I don't know what to ask.

He is tonight.

He's a lefty.

We'll ask him.

Either way, that's a perfect analogy because my next guest made a really cool documentary called, Just A Bit Outside, the story of the 1982 Brewers.

Sean Hannes joins us now on the stream.

Sean, how are you?

Sean Hannish

I'm great, Pete.

How are you

Pete Chwaba

doing?

First of all, I apologize.

I'm sure you have heard people mimicking Bob Uker saying, Just A Bit Outside, more than anyone has a right to over the last few

Sean Hannish

months.

You know, let's be honest, though, it's kind of part of the design.

It's part of the marketing.

Pete Chwaba

Yeah.

OK.

Fair enough.

Hey, before we jump into what's happening with the film, I saw that you posted on Facebook a couple of months ago about the fires.

And you guys seem to be in a little bit of danger.

How is everything?

Did you guys get through that OK?

Sean Hannish

Well, really appreciate you asking, Pete.

Boy, I've never experienced a night like that, that Tuesday night.

I had most of my, let's just start it this way.

I went outside that evening and that afternoon the winds were so strong it blew a tree onto my car.

Unidentified

And then

Sean Hannish

that night I went outside and I know they tell you something sounds like a freight train.

The winds were so strong, it sounded like a locomotive.

It was a rough night, man.

I was up all night, I'd packed the car.

with my son and it's a really interesting experiment to be like, okay, I'm gonna lose my house.

What do I take?

And unfortunately, I actually didn't end up having to evacuate.

I live in Pasadena just south of the Rose Bowl, but everywhere from the Rose Bowl north and then all the way to the east through Altadena.

Oh man, unfortunately I have six friends that lost their homes.

One of the producers on just a bit outside.

Fortunately, his home's standing, but he's still not back in it.

Unidentified

No

Sean Hannish

kidding.

The streets are, it's apocalyptic what happened up there.

And also on the Palisades.

Honestly, it's hard to grasp.

Even living here is hard to grasp.

I mean, I've driven through some of the neighborhoods and wow, it's...

Uh, but you know what?

The neat thing, the one good thing that came out of it, I think is, you know, it, LA doesn't feel a lot of times like a community.

So

Pete Chwaba

yeah,

Sean Hannish

big and, and diverse.

And also rent, it goes on for, you know, tens and tens of miles in every direction.

Um, that it, it actually felt like a community for once.

And, uh, you know, it brought kind of brought out the best in people.

So, you know, trying to, trying to help out where we can.

Pete Chwaba

Well, that's great.

I'm glad to hear, uh, yeah, it's weird.

Sean, I mean, when I, when I lived out there, you'd always see the fires in the hills and we'd see Ash come down into the valley.

I lived in the Valley Village area

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and it

Pete Chwaba

just didn't seem like, well, it's never going to touch us.

And then when you saw what happened a couple of months ago, it's like, wow, this can happen at any time.

It is absolutely real.

It was horrifying.

So glad

Sean Hannish

you're okay.

Oh, thank you.

Thank you very much.

Yeah.

It's fortunately.

People listened to the, you know, listened to the fire and the police and they, most everybody evacuated, which, you know, thrilled about because it could have been a lot worse.

Pete Chwaba

Absolutely.

Well, good for you.

Now, listen, here's the other question.

When something like that happens, Sean, I know when I move back here, people are like, oh, you're much better off here than with all those earthquakes and all

Unidentified

that kind of

Pete Chwaba

stuff.

And I was like, you know, we went through a couple of earthquakes, but I'm more worried about slipping on ice here than I am.

Like.

But that was the first time I looked and saw what was happening and said, yeah, I don't know if I want to go back there.

The fire just scared the living daylights out of me.

Did you have any moment during that time where you thought, well, maybe the Midwest isn't so bad?

Or did it

Sean Hannish

affect you?

I love the Midwest.

I grew up in Milwaukee in Brazil.

I have designs to maybe spend some more time there as I, you know,

I guess get older.

You know, I love it.

I mean, there's nothing the summers are great.

The falls are the best in the world.

So definitely.

So yeah, no, I'm, you know, I will say the you know, it has an effect, you know, the biggest thing right now is the heat, the heat in the summer has gotten even over the 30 years I've lived here, it's gotten worse.

And so it's really a difficult

Believe it or not, it's really hard to live here in June, July, or really July, August, September.

So anyway, that's my little, my little.

Pete Chwaba

Yeah,

Sean Hannish

makes you want to

Pete Chwaba

jump in a freshwater lake, I'm sure.

Sean Hannish

Well, it

Pete Chwaba

does.

So all right, so it's great to have you here, Sean.

I saw that you have a couple of Wisconsin screenings coming up.

For those who might not know who are listening, tell us, give us a little bit of background about the documentary first, and then we'll get to your screenings.

Sean Hannish

Well, happy to.

I mean,

I mean the real back story is that I was 14 years old in 1982 and had the great good fortune of my parents having season tickets.

So and they always had to the Brewers I believe since almost year one.

And so I mean I grew up obviously you know just died in the wool brewery fan and as with all Wisconsin sports teams too as we all are.

But I was able to watch this magical season from you know

From county stadium from the same seats, you know, whenever I give the tickets for my dad, right?

so we had a It was so memorable to everybody who lived through it, you know, no matter your age at that time And the characters were so memorable.

We felt like we knew them.

You could see them in the parking lot

Unidentified

Yeah, you

Sean Hannish

know, like you could approach them and then you know to be okay So then that's the real backstory and and also remembering how

dramatic the season was, you know, the ups and the downs, the expectations, and then those crazy series at the end, you know, losing three out of four to Baltimore, winning the last game to make the playoffs, losing two in Anaheim, coming back and being the first team in pro history to win three in a row at home in a five game series.

You know, and then the crazy World Series we had the ups and downs were in the advantage and there in the advantage and then

we're winning going to the bottom of the sixth.

So it was, you know, an incredible ride.

Now cut to about four and a half years ago, Kelly Call, who was 15 years old at the time, who's my producing partner on this, he was 15 from Burlington, and he caught all the games on Channel 18 back in the day, and on radio, with of course, you know, the great Bob Uker calling them.

And

He went on that same ride and so he had he's kind of a big deal.

He was president of the CBS for six

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and a half

Sean Hannish

years So when he would go to the he went to a couple golf tournaments and he got paired up with his childhood hero Gorman Thomas and They golfed together and Gorman asked Kelly all about his favorite shows on CBS and Kelly asked Gorman all about the stories of 1982 and Yeah, Kelly came back and I said, you know, I think

I think there's something here.

Gorman's telling me some really stories I've never heard before, and that's when we embarked on this project.

Pete Chwaba

So great.

My guest is Sean Hannish, who made the film Just A Bit Outside, the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers.

It played through Wisconsin.

I know it was in Marcus Theaters, Sean.

I assume you guys have done other film festivals.

You were on right before the film came out, and I love talking to filmmakers after they've been through the process of the release.

Were your expectations met?

Exceeded, do you still have a ways to go?

How do you feel about how everything played out after the release?

Sean Hannish

Well, I would say it wildly exceeded my expectations.

Pete Chwaba

Fantastic.

Sean Hannish

When you, you know, I'll say this, you know, as a filmmaker, you know, 20 years ago or even 12 years ago when my first film came out, you're kind of the expectation is to hopefully be in theaters.

This day and age, the expectation is, oh, I hope to be on streaming.

But as filmmaker, you're like, no, there's nothing like everybody sitting together in the dark in the theater and watching a story as a community.

And so to be able to be in Marcus Theaters, we thought we were gonna be there for two weeks in like a half dozen theaters.

And we ended up being in theaters for two months.

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Wow.

Sean Hannish

and that's not because Marcus was just being nice to us.

They

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were great

Sean Hannish

partners.

I don't know how to assure amazing partners, but it's because of the word of mouth and the people really enjoyed some of these screenings turned into like tailgates.

Unidentified

Oh, that is great.

Sean Hannish

People coming in in their jerseys like, you know, people in their in their, you know, yellowish jerseys, people in their, you know, Robin Yacht jerseys.

Yeah.

They have a couple beers at the, or sodas at the, at the bar, bring them into the theater and cheer like they're in a game.

And they, you know, it's something really, really special.

I will never forget it.

It's, it's, it's really launched a really good word of mouth.

I mean, you know, I hope this doesn't come off as like a humble brag, but it, you know, we're currently 100% audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes.

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Sean Hannish

That's

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fantastic.

Sean Hannish

Again, talk about wildly exceeding expectations.

I think people, when they see the movie, even if they're not a Brewer's fan or even if they're not a baseball fan, they're pleasantly surprised to discover these really interesting characters and go on this really emotional ride.

Pete Chwaba

That is incredible, Sean.

And it's not a brag.

First of all, when someone dedicates their life to making a film, the entire process, the script, pre-production, production, post,

You know, you've been through it.

It's so much work.

It's such a tedious process.

You could brag all you want, especially 100% on Rotten Tomatoes is incredible.

You have a couple screenings coming up in Wisconsin, and that's why I kind of wanted to have you.

We have to do a quick break, but let's talk about those when we come back.

Are you going to be at the Wisconsin Film Festival?

Yes.

Sean Hannish

All right.

Pete Chwaba

Fantastic.

I'll be there too.

I can't wait.

Sean Hannish

Oh, fabulous.

Pete Chwaba

Yeah.

So we'll talk about that after a very short break.

Sean Hannes is here, the director and the creative force behind just a bit outside the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers.

You can find out next where to see that in the theater while you still can here in Wisconsin.

It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media radio

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network.

Sean Hannish (guest)

Hey, this is John Legend and you're listening to Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.

Pete Schwabba (host)

We have breaking sports news here.

Ladies and gentlemen, Norfolk has cut the lead from 32 to 22.

Florida now leads by only 22 points.

Stand by that as an upset in the making.

I told you they're a second and a half team.

We will keep you abreast of the situation, ladies and gentlemen.

This is fun.

It's a bar band Friday night, ladies and gentlemen.

Terry Barr is not with us.

Rocker is.

That's the great thing about Max Inc Radio.

somewhat interchangeable.

They know music and Rocker will be here to tell us all about some new music you probably haven't heard.

That's coming up at 7.35.

We have a few more minutes with our current guest, Sean Hannish, the director behind just a bit outside the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers.

So Sean, where, aside from the Wisconsin Film Festival, do you know when your screening is then and where else can people see it if they don't go to the

Sean Hannish (guest)

festival?

Um, at the festival, we're screening Friday, April 4th.

Um,

Pete Schwabba (host)

nice.

Sean Hannish (guest)

And you can find all that at the Wisconsin Film Festival website.

Great.

Uh, the other screens we're having actually the, the times in Wabatosa is doing a whole, uh, kind of early baseball season, uh, series.

So they've got Moneyball.

They've got Major League.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Oh,

Sean Hannish (guest)

great.

And, uh, they're, they programmed us in for next Friday and Saturday night, the 29th and 30th down in Wabatosa.

So, um,

You know, and it's funny.

Our website always kind of keeps everybody up to date as to the local screenings, because every once in a while, an independent cinema, an independent theater will jump out and say, hey, you know, we'd love to love to show your film.

And we're always, if we can, we will.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah.

So all right, so that those are great.

Do you have you mentioned the website?

Where can people is it just a bit outside.com?

Where can people go for that?

Sean Hannish (guest)

Just a bit outside movie.com.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Perfect.

All right, so check that out You have a Sean I think I'm kind of fascinated by there's another Wisconsin guy I don't know if you have ever crossed paths with him in LA Steve Burroughs great guy also from Milwaukee He he's made he made a film called chump change He was in the narrative world then he went and did commercials and now he's got this award-winning HBO documentary called bleed out where he did a documentary about his mother I'm fascinated

by people like you that can have success in the narrative world and then jump out and do a documentary and have success there too.

What made you, not that you ever regret it, but that's a commitment.

Documentaries take a while.

So you're stepping away from your bread and butter to make this documentary.

Were you scared or were you ever like, is this worth it?

Sean Hannish (guest)

The worth it question is you kind of

when you're deciding, do I, there's a moment where you're, you're kind of like, am I all in on this?

And there was a moment early on, really when we talked to Gorman and, you know, and Kelly and I really got our heads together that we thought, you know, there's something here.

After we interviewed Robin Yeo, who's our first interview, then we were all in and you're like, oh, oh, we,

you could kind of feel what the movie was going to be like.

So I don't know, you know, as a filmmaker, there's no, you know, I will say your filter gets tighter, the more experience you have.

And you're like, is that really going to make a good story?

Will people really be interested in that?

And like, why would people be interested in that now?

And once you can, I was able to answer all of those questions, at least in my mind.

Um, and I knew the story had a lot of heart.

So I guess that answers your question.

Yeah,

Pete Schwabba (host)

it

Sean Hannish (guest)

can be worth it.

I mean, was it worth it to me?

I got to sit down with all of my childhood heroes.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Right.

Sean Hannish (guest)

So I mean, you know, I'm glad the movie turned out, but even just the, the experience of the process was awesome.

Um, as regards jumping from narrative to documentary, it's, I will say this, it's very different.

But at its core, it's very similar.

Like the mode of production is very different.

In narrative film, everything is based on the script.

Literally everything you're casting or financing your locations, your editing schedule, everything.

In documentary, you're writing that script in the edit base.

So I will admit, while editing a narrative feature is a...

three, four, six month process, editing a documentary is, in this case, about two, two and a half years.

That's really where the stamina comes in.

And it's, I will admit, you know, being a narrative filmmaker, and this would be my first documentary, I was a little frustrated by how long it was taking us in post, but it is its own process.

And, you know, the goal was just to make the best film possible.

And I think, you know, I think we accomplished it.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That's great.

My guest is Sean Hannish.

You can see his film, Just A Bit Outside, the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers at the Wisconsin Film Festival April 4th or in Wabatosa on the 29th and 30th.

Go to justabitoutsidemovie.com.

The movie or movie?

I guess if you google it, they'll find

Sean Hannish (guest)

it.

It's movie.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I made you have to think there, didn't I?

Sean Hannish (guest)

No, I know.

Sorry, it's the movie.

Pete Schwabba (host)

The movie.

Sean Hannish (guest)

Okay.

Let's get outside the movie.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Got it.

All right.

Very cool.

So what's next for you?

You got another, you going back into the narrative world?

You gonna make another doc?

Sean Hannish (guest)

Well, if I can, if I can, can I let folks know where they can, where they can see the movie outside of theaters?

Pete Schwabba (host)

Absolutely.

Oh, I was gonna ask.

I even forgot to ask you that anyway.

Yeah.

Sean Hannish (guest)

Well, I was going to idea great news is we came out on DVD about four weeks ago.

And ever since we came out with the number one documentary DVD on Amazon.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Oh, fantastic.

Sean Hannish (guest)

It speaks to the fans.

It speaks to the great fans in Wisconsin, because I'm sure, you know, a lot of those are from all over there from outside the state to but really appreciate that support.

Yeah.

Really big news that we released.

less than 48 hours ago is that we're going to be streaming on the Roku channel starting April the 11th.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Okay, I thought I saw that.

Sean Hannish (guest)

Okay.

And that's free.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That's

Sean Hannish (guest)

fantastic.

Go to the Roku channel.com.

You can watch it on your phone, you can watch it on your iPad, you can watch it on your, you know, smart TV.

We're so excited.

It's exclusively on the Roku channel.

It starts April the 11th.

So now everybody can see it, and we're not just opening in the US.

It's Canada,

Pete Schwabba (host)

UK, and Mexico.

Yeah.

That's fantastic, Sean.

Hey, listen, congratulations.

A successful theatrical run, DVD, and now a stream or two.

Well done.

Very impressive.

And I hope I run India at the Wisconsin Film Festival.

It'd be great to say hello.

Sean Hannish (guest)

I'll be there Kelly now be there.

I'd love to meet in person.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Absolutely continued success my friend.

Thanks for taking the time.

Thank you so much Pete.

You guys Sean Hannes check it out folks You have many ways to see just a bit outside now when we come back You might have thought there was no Barbie on Friday night because terry bar will not be here But you would be wrong rocker joins us after civic media's award-winning news team tells you what's up and Maybe I don't maybe we'll have another update on that game.

It's getting closer.

It's 20 now.

Oh, wow

A lot of time, 10 minutes.

All right, we're coming right back at Speechwabba at Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Time to check out original music with Bar Band Friday on Nightlight.

Now your host, Pete Schwabba and special guest, Terry Barr.

Special guest, Filling In for Terry Barr, the lefty out of the bullpen as we are referring to him this evening.

He co-hosts Max, Inc.

Radio with Terry and Jimmy, the award-winning Max, Inc.

Radio, and he joins us tonight for Bar Band Friday, Filling In for Terry.

It's Rocker.

Hey, buddy.

Rocker (guest)

Hey, what's happening Pete?

Thanks for having me on tonight.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Hey, thanks for doing this.

It's great to talk to you again, especially after all you've been through.

How are you doing?

Rocker (guest)

I am doing really well.

Thanks for asking.

I appreciate that.

You know, for those who don't know, I, hey, I died on stage, right?

I was playing with my band down here in Madison and had a heart attack on stage and it really, it saved my life.

Wow having it on stage in front of people because I got help immediately and it took it took the paramedics and all the people that were there and stuff about 45 minutes to revive me but after hospital stay and well another hospital stay but now I'm back on the men so it's pretty great I'm feeling great and doing a lot of cardio rehab and eating well and doing all those things to kind of your reclaim health.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Good for you, but I'm very glad to hear that.

And that was such an incredible story.

So are you playing again?

Are you playing music again?

Rocker (guest)

Not quite.

I'm still kind of working up strength and getting the stamina back.

But I'm fully working to play drums with the band again.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Excellent.

Well, all the more reason I appreciate you filling in tonight, buddy.

Rocker (guest)

It's good

Pete Schwabba (host)

to see you and thank you for doing this.

Yeah, thank you.

I'm kind of leaving this.

This is kind of your dime your dance floor tonight because we have our typical format, but you've got us some really cool.

We've got a lot of different clips here.

So where do you want to start, Rocker?

Rocker (guest)

Well, well, I'll start with Maxink Radio every Saturday night and Sunday night here on the Civic Media Radio Network, 6 p.m.

to midnight.

And we play Wisconsin made music.

We interview Wisconsin artists.

and a lot of local personalities that are somehow related to the music industry or sometimes just cool businesses or fundraising events.

So there's just a lot of stuff.

And we also usually feature live performance every week.

And we have a performer come in and play for us.

And sometimes it's a whole band.

Sometimes it's a local performer.

So it's a lot of fun.

But we unplug from the politics.

And it's all about local music.

We are local music.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Everybody needs a break.

And it's when I first heard, I mean, when I started doing this, I thought preparing a two hour show every night was a lot of work and it is, but

Rocker (guest)

preparing a

Pete Schwabba (host)

six hour show, even though it's once a week, I don't even know how you guys do that.

It's very impressive.

So let's start with my saying this right, rocker, harmonious whale.

Rocker (guest)

Well, let's see.

Yeah, let's go with Harmonious Whale.

What I'd like to do is preview some shows that are coming around and I have a lot of Madison shows right now loaded up.

Harmonious Whale.

They are going to be playing Saturday, March 22nd at the North Street Cabaret.

That's at North Avenue, Eakin Park in...

in Madison.

In harmonious whale, they are purveyors of Americana-infused gypsy jazz.

Sim's Delaney Potoff.

He is a mandolin virtuoso, band leader, vocalist.

He went to school at Berkeley School of Music.

Maggie Delaney Potoff, she's a vocalist extraordinaire and his wife.

But her percussive instrument of choice is a cardboard box.

But and she plays.

Yes, she plays that with brushes.

It's great.

You know, the box still has the logo on it could come from a restaurant or, you know, Amazon.

But she gets amazing sound out of it.

It's it's pretty cool.

Scott Levenka gypsy guitar whiz and then a master bassist.

Forest Evans who dazzles lineup right base.

So they've been around for 30 years here in Madison.

And they're about to put out a new album.

And I thought I'd bring in a little song that they did beyond the pale.

This is from their latest album.

This is Harmonious Whale.

Unnamed Performer

All right.

30 days out on the road.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That was Harmonious Whale and a little sampling from Beyond the Pale.

And that's you call that Americana infused gypsy jazz rocker.

Yeah.

Love that

Rocker (guest)

man.

They are really good, really entertaining to great storytellers.

Really fun band to see.

You can go see them coming up the North Street Cabaret in Madison on Saturday, March 22nd.

Unnamed Guest/Caller

Very cool.

Rocker (guest)

And let's move on to automatic lover.

They're kind of a newer band within the last year here in Madison.

Just it's music that moves you.

Singer, producer from Sonoran, Mexico, the singer, a Grammy nominated disciple of the original funky drummer Clyde Stubblefield.

That is Joey B Banks, his understudy, keyboard, steeped in jazz and salsa, me guitars raised on 80s hardcore and Afro beat.

Oh, and a bass that slaps back at acid jazz roots.

And a whole and a whole horn section.

So they're playing Saturday, March 22nd at the Red Rooster here in Madison on Seaforth Road.

And this song is kind of interesting.

The clip I picked, we're going to start with the guitar solo because I wanted to really check out these guys, how they jam.

But they're just a great band.

This is a song called Helena.

This is Automatic Lover.

Awesome.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Red Rooster is going to be jumping March 22nd.

That's awesome.

Rocker (guest)

I mean, you can't help but move your feet when they're playing.

I mean, they're just an energetic, super fun band to see.

I

Unnamed Guest/Caller

love it.

That's great.

All right.

All right.

Rocker (guest)

I got two more for you

Unnamed Guest/Caller

tonight.

Rocker (guest)

you know there's the seventh annual respect it's a celebration of women in music march 29th at the high noon saloon in madison and what they do is they have the big payback a band which has a giant horn section you know really big think it's a nine-piece band and so what they do is they back a bunch of local female singers from around the area and then each of those singers kind of cover

a woman in music that is extremely famous.

So you have people like Teresa Marie, who's the singer from People Brothers Band.

She's going to be covering Chaka Khan.

There is Raquel Eilman, and she'll be covering Madonna, Candice Griffin doing Stevie Nicks, and a whole clethora of different artists from here in Madison who are participating.

One of them is Lola Marie.

And she's singing a Chapel Roan song.

And she's a Madison singer and songwriter who studied music and economics at Vanderbilt University in Nashville.

And she also tours with a Frank Zappa tribute band called Furious Bongo's.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Oh,

Rocker (guest)

nice.

And I brought in a song from her last album.

And this song is Lomarie.

Beer is a

Unnamed Performer

vampire.

You saved me, oh welcome burden Releasing me from joy that I don't

Rocker (guest)

And Lowe Marie will be performing and interviewing on Maxink radio tomorrow night.

So cool.

And she'll be playing a couple of songs on the radio.

And of course, you can see her with the seventh annual respect show, Celebration of Women in Music.

That's March 29th at the High Noon Saloon in Madison.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I've never been there.

I love that name.

High Noon

Rocker (guest)

Saloon.

It's a great, great venue.

Is it downtown?

Pete Schwabba (host)

Or is

Rocker (guest)

it out?

It's Capital East District on East Washington, just east of the capital.

Very nice.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Awesome, man.

All right, let's move on.

What do you got next, buddy?

Rocker (guest)

All right, let's see.

Road trip?

Road trip, yes.

They are an Oshkosh band.

Their jamming is banned for nearly three decades.

They're mainly a cover band, but have a bunch of original music.

Um, they've won ton of whammy awards over the years and they're going to be playing all over Wisconsin.

I'll go through this list quick because it's a lot Saturday, March 22nd at the Hortonville lanes in the Appleton area Saturday, March 29th at the junkyard in Wisconsin Rapids Saturday, April 5th at the Hill Tavern in Beaver Dam Saturday, April 12th at the Boulevard right here in Madison and Friday, April 18th at the Wharf in Manitowoc

And the big thing is that April 24th, they're going to be playing at the Great North Commons during the NFL Draft.

That's just steps from Lambeau Field in Green

Unnamed Guest/Caller

Bay.

Rocker (guest)

This is their original song.

It's called Two Days.

This is Road Trip.

They're pretty good.

They've been around for a long time, so check them out.

Find them online to see their whole schedule.

They're playing everywhere.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I just pulled them up.

Yeah, this is great.

They have a great site, too.

Check out roadtripband.com if you like that, folks.

That's awesome.

Rocker (guest)

Do we have time for one more?

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah, I think Conrad, can we do a quick break first, Rocker?

We sure can.

I'll tell you what.

We got about a minute.

You want to set this up, and then we'll come back and play the song.

Rocker (guest)

Sure.

You know, there's this band called Last Cracked, and I actually used to manage them back in the early 2000s.

They were on Roadrunner Records back in the 90s, and when the singer had heard about what had happened to me, he was like, hey,

Let's get the band to get back together for a show and do a show called The Rocker Jamboree.

So when we come back, I'd like to tell you about The Rocker Jamboree and Last Crack and some other bands that haven't played in 20 years that are reuniting for a great cause, including myself.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That's awesome, man.

You must have been a pretty good manager, too, if they're willing to come back and do all this.

Most of those relationships, or a lot of them don't end so well.

So good for you.

Rocker is here.

It's a bar band Friday night, ladies and gentlemen.

We're going to do a very quick break and we'll be right back to wrap this thing up.

It's Pete Schwabba and Night Light on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Conrad (producer)

Monday

Pete (host)

night on Nightlight.

We have another great show planned for you guys.

The director of A Road at Night, John Roach will be here.

John is also one of the writers of the film The Straight Story, which was co-written.

by Mary Sweeney, and directed by David Lynch.

He will be here Monday night at 6.35 to talk about his film that will be in the Wisconsin Film Festival, and actor Ezekiel Drews will be here in the second hour.

That's Monday.

We have a few more minutes with our guest tonight, Rocker, who is filling in for Terry Barr, his colleague at Max Inc Radio.

And we've been introduced already to four pretty cool bands.

And now we have a fifth clip here, Rocker.

We kind of set it up, but is there anything else you want to tell us before we get back at it?

Rocker (guest, filling in for Terry Barr)

Yeah, let me let me get back to say that my co-hosts Terry Barr and Jimmy K Jimmy K really kind of pioneered this rocker jamboree

to kind of help me out.

There's been some medical expenses.

And also to benefit Mama Cares, which is a division of the Madison Area Music Association.

And Mama Cares is a fund that basically helps musicians in their time of crisis.

So, you know, more often than not, it's a medical crisis and musicians don't necessarily have health insurance as much as normal people.

So they need a little help with Mama Cares.

So this benefit

will have Last Crack, who hasn't performed in 20 years, Magic 7, which is an offshoot of that band, and people, they're really big here in Madison and around Wisconsin.

And that will be Sunday, May the 4th, from 1 to 5 p.m.

here in Madison at the Burr Oak.

And this is from their latest album, The Uprising, in 2019.

We're putting a play song called Three Ghosts.

This is Last Crack.

Pete (host)

Awesome.

Well, there's a sample of what you'll hear at the Rocker Jamboree on May 4th from one to five PM at the Baroque.

That's that sounds like a blast, dude.

Rocker (guest, filling in for Terry Barr)

It's going

Pete (host)

to be a lot of fun.

Will you be you think you'll be able to play by then?

And if so, would you?

Rocker (guest, filling in for Terry Barr)

Well, I won't be playing with any of those bands and my band won't be at this event.

But I'm hoping for to get back to a show around the fall with my band, Iron Blow.

Pete (host)

OK.

Buddy, I'm so glad you're doing well and you're you're back at it at least on maxing could such a great show you guys do a phenomenal job and I really appreciate you filling in for for Terry tonight.

This has been fun

Rocker (guest, filling in for Terry Barr)

Thanks, Pete.

I appreciate it

Pete (host)

any time.

All right.

Have a great show tomorrow night.

Thank you You're welcome.

That's a rocker check out maxing radio every Saturday night from six to midnight here on the civic media radio network They do such a great job and Terry

By way of Max, Inc.

has introduced us to so many great bands over the last year on Barbie and Friday night, and this was kind of fun to do things a little differently, right?

Yeah, a little.

I liked hearing a little clip like that of everybody.

Yeah, that was fun.

Yeah.

All right, so I'd like to thank Rocker for being here tonight.

That was fun.

Sean Hannish was a lot of fun to talk to Sean again about his film, Just a Bit Outside, the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers.

And Civic Media's own Don Brown.

That was a blast, too.

Just a lot of fun.

Thank you for your text.

We do have a text, Conrad.

I haven't read yet.

Are you aware of that?

Yeah, we have two.

And Ollie, we know you're trying to call.

Apologies.

We're having issues with our phones.

So I'm sorry we missed your call tonight, but...

Don't give up on us.

We'll get this figured out.

It gets a little better every day.

Pamela from Wisconsin Rapids, that's in the 715.

She says, thanks to Rocker for mentioning Road Trip at Junkyard Bar and Grill in Wisconsin Rapids.

Junkyard is one of our local advertising clients here, and that's from Pamela at WFHR.

Pamela, thank you as always for listening.

Guys are doing great work at WFHR.

A lot of award nominations this week, so that'll be exciting to see what happens there.

Steady, eddy!

What would this show be without a steady eddy text from the six oh eight our buddy a steadfast Edward says Pete About 50 years ago.

I worked at a Mexican restaurant Pacos on Upper East states on Upper State Street just down from the Capitol in Madison all the food was good But what I remember most is that workers at the restaurant got a free bottle of Cerveza beer after their shift was over It was excellent Mexican beer Cerveza and Mexican food served together

Es muy bueno.

You didn't know I was bilingual, did you, Conrad?

I tortured plato, mixo, or whatever it was, but I got this one.

I've heard those terms.

Steady Eddie, that's awesome.

This is all making me hungry again.

That's the problem when we do food questions, is my mouth is watering my entire drive home, and then I'm stuck with McDonald's and Arby's if I want to eat.

Doesn't quite live up to

Don Brown (Civic Media)

it.

Do you want to do one last update?

Pete (host)

Yes, let's hear it.

wreck everybody's brackets before it looks like they're gonna hang on 95 69 over Norfolk State 47 seconds left You know, let's see what happens, but it looks like that one's over

Don Brown (Civic Media)

That just ruins my bracket completely.

Pete (host)

Don't you love, I've noticed it a little bit with this, with the tournament too.

Mostly NFL guys do this too.

They don't want to lose their viewers.

So they're like, this one is not over yet, folks.

Couple on-site kicks in a Hail Mary, and Buffalo is right back in this one with two minutes

Don Brown (Civic Media)

to go.

They just needed like three pointers every second, and they're good.

Pete (host)

It's never happened before, but.

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Right now, I'm very excited. My next guest is always so much fun to talk to. He produces Mino and the Mayor here at WGBW every morning and at WISS. And he is also a paranormal investigator who does really fascinating work and is really fun to talk to about said work. Mino and the Mayor or paranormal investigating. Would you agree Conrad? No, yeah. You know this guy. Yeah. Yeah. Let's bring him on. Let's not waste any more time. This is getting ridiculous. Todd Michaels joins us now. Todd, how are you?

I'm, well, can I, can I talk about Gene Hackman first? I was going to ask you anyway. So please, and then we have to discuss your look cause I love it. It's scary as hell. Not at all. I just think, listen, I think there's a lot of kids that grow up in the Hollywood thing and.

This is not the first time that I've heard people with money, whether it's sports people or Hollywood people that say their kids feel like they're entitled to all this money. And it's like, go out and get a job. And I feel as though he doesn't owe them anything. I really don't think so. And I think he probably was a crabby old man, but let's put it this way. His kids, he was dead for how long? His wife was dead for how long? And the kids never stopped by to see him. I mean.

You know, I had a dad with dementia. My mom was sick and still as a family, we kind of kept in touch with them up until the end. So what is, you know, I don't know, do they really need the money? Get out of here. What's going on with the Hackmans? Yeah.

Again, not knowing anything. I just admit that on paper when I read this, I was kind of like, because he had admitted in other articles that he was an absentee father, he was not there. And I think some people try to make up for that monetarily. But again, like some of the textures have been saying, maybe he gave them money earlier on, or maybe he's made sure they're, I don't know, maybe they're all independently wealthy, but it was just surprising to read that, you know.

Yeah, I didn't I didn't necessarily know that he was an absentee father or anything like that But it wouldn't be the first one wouldn't be the last one. So I just think he was a great actor. That's all I really care about

I just hope my parents are listening to this segment. Because you're expecting some cash? Wink, wink, nod, nod, you know. All right, so Todd, we've got to get to that. We've got to address the elephant in the room, which is your new look, which is so great and so cool that you did this. You did a campaign for St. Baldrick's to help children fighting cancer and you cut all your fate.

awesome beard and you have good hair and you just lost it all. You look good, man. Well, first of all, I don't think so. It was very frightening when I first saw it, because I have not been without a beard probably in 20 years, maybe 25 years. So it was kind of hard to look at. I've decided that it's all got to come back. But if I had to choose, if somebody said, okay, you have to either keep your head bald or you have to keep your face shaven,

I would keep the bald head and bring the beard back totally, because basically from the nose down...

I'm hideous, and if you just look in my eyes, they're okay. You know what I'm saying? Boy, someone's done their fair share of naval gazing over the years. No, listen, I admit, when I saw you on Facebook yesterday, I went yeesh. No, I didn't do that. I was like, seriously. No, but I didn't know at first. I didn't know it was you. And I'm like, oh my God, that's Todd. Like I was not.

I was not expecting you to be handsome. I thought maybe why you had the beard and your look was because you were hiding something. But, you know, you're a good looking guy. Conrad, help me out here.

He's your boss, you can say. That's all Conrad had to do is laugh. That's fine. You just keep that laughter. Cause you know what's really funny on my desktop right now is Conrad's review that I'm working on. You look very good, Todd. I think a show of solidarity and shaving your head might be in order here Conrad. I'll just tell you Todd, I used to, every summer I used to shave my head like I would go quarter inch, not quite completely bald.

And then I have another gig on TV and they were like, please, please stop doing that. They're like, we can't force you. And my kids were like, dad, you look like a psychopath. So I stopped. The craziest thing was my dog.

I didn't know who I was right away. Like he kind of kind of cowered away a little bit, but I did raise money and it's really for a good cause and I can't wait to let all comes back. So tell us about that. If people can still donate, where do they go and how do they get more involved in St. Paul Dricks?

I think you can go to SaintBaldricks.org. That'll give you all the details on it. You can still donate to my campaign. I will just say that John Minow and Jim Schmidt kind of talked me into this. They, on the air, they did the whole, well, if Todd raises $500, he'll shave everything, right? I ended up raising about 1300. So I'm really happy with that. And that's, that's from listeners from the show. That's from friends on Facebook, but you can find me on Facebook, Todd Michaels, Deering. And you can still donate to my cause if you'd like to.

It's great. I emptied. And I know you did Pete. So thank you very much. You're welcome. I emptied one of my offshore accounts. It was the whole eight bucks I sent to your way. Just one of them. No, it was my pleasure. I think if someone's willing to do that, you know, I think it's great. So good for you. And then I hope it helps, you know, if enough people do it, it's certainly good. Although I've heard cancer research might be stopped. So I don't know, but I hope that's not true.

Okay, so have you celebrated St. Pat's Day today, Todd? What did you do? No, I just, I literally have been working since this morning, so I didn't have a time. And green beer always affects my guts a little bit, so I try to avoid that anyway. Like the dye? So I really didn't do anything. Like the dye? I don't know. I mean, don't you think it does something to your guts? I don't, well, it must. I've never, I don't think I've ever had, I've never been a beer drinker really. So I don't, yeah, I don't know, but you know, there's no pressure or anything.

But happy St. Patrick's Day. And to you. And thank you, Conrad. So that's Simpson's clip we played before. Yeah. You remember when Moe's, he has the green dye in his hand and it has poisons written on it. It's a green dye for beer and two poison symbols. Moe is the best. And that, that when Krusty says open your yaps, boyos, he's just spraying beer into the crowd. It's gorgeous. All right. So Todd, let's get down, you know,

I always read stuff, and I think of you immediately if it's along these lines. And when I saw this Age of Disclosure documentary that premiered itself by Southwest about 10 days ago, I immediately thought of you. And I don't think you and I have ever covered aliens, at least not in any kind of, you know, we might have touched on it. But where do you stand before we get into the documentary? Where do you stand on the existence of aliens? And have you ever investigated anything along those lines?

where I stand out it is I'm a firm believer that there's so many things that we just don't know about. We just can't comprehend as human beings. And it would not surprise me to find out that there are such things as aliens. I will say that I've never gone out to investigate something that was purportedly alien related. However, I do think that there is a good chance that what we have

come to know as paranormal investigating of ghosts and spirits and energies could very well have a tie to aliens. Even things like a Sasquatch and Bigfoot. I mean, there may be a whole different category of paranormal that we haven't even thought about. And maybe somehow they're all intertwined. I'm certainly open to that concept. And some of the stuff I've read

Lends itself to what the heck is going on. I mean, you and I have talked about the lights in Michigan, right? In Western Michigan back in the 90s. I mean, that is a story that to this day, when I still read about it or see more film on it or whatever, still creeps me out. And it's stories like that that make me say to myself, you know what? There's probably something to this. Yeah.

My issue with the alien, and I do remember you saying that last time, like maybe the Sasquatch thing, maybe they're not from Earth, maybe they're from somewhere else and they come here and whatever, but I'm open to, as usual, I say this to you every time you're here. I have an open mind. This film is called, it's a documentary called The Age of Disclosure. They interviewed, the director Dan Fair interviewed 34 military and intelligence government officials who admit to the existence of what they call UAPs or unexplained

anomalous phenomena, a new term for UFOs, I guess. But I think the big thing is that they're saying they exist and it's a disinformation campaign by the government. What does the government have to lose by telling us aliens exist when a lot of people probably think they do anyway on some level? My assumption on that is that it

take some control away from our government. I'm not a big conspiracy theory person. I'm just not. But I think as we were just saying about paranormal, there's a lot of stuff we don't know. I think there's a lot of stuff in our government that we don't know about, that we can't necessarily put our finger on and they like it that way just fine. And I worry about, I don't worry about it, but I think they probably worry about the effects of this getting out there.

If they've been holding this information from us, let's say Roswell in 1947 in New Mexico actually happened, let's say that somehow some evidence comes forward that that actually took place. How would we feel about our government at that point with holding that information for that long? And we might be getting to a point in our history as a country with everything going on politically right now where

We may be more able to believe that they're withholding information on this than maybe a year ago or two years ago, five years ago. So I think it's a control thing, right? We probably believe that our government tries to control the information that we get and how we receive it. To me, that would just be something on the list of things that they want to control.

It's just here's why I think it's strange is because you it's not like skin color or religion or gender Like you can't go I think that guy's an alien and I don't think it would cause mass hysteria And I do I can't see Trump keeping a lid on that if he could expose this and be the guy I think he would do I think he would release the information. I mean unless

some of the aliens were on Epstein's plane or something. Then he'd probably keep it under his house. Well, either that or we've got aliens in government or something like that. You're right. I agree with you, though. I think that you're right. I think that he is the guy that if he was going to, if he wanted to throw things for a loop, that'd be a perfect thing to throw out there and just make things spiral out of control. Nick himself looked like a swell guy, you know. Absolutely. So they say in the documentary, Todd, they say spacecrafts have been traveling here since the 40s and spying on us.

Again, I've read a couple books that were way above my head that says, you know, if people or aliens were gonna travel here from other galaxies, nothing that we know technology-wise would make it through those galaxies. There would have to be wormholes or something that they get here and they would most likely be tiny. And I don't know, do you have a thought about that?

Well, I think I'm not speaking out a term when I say that. I think science has has proven the the ability to create or have wormholes. So I think that is, you know, it's not just something from Futurama, which is one of my favorite cartoons. But I think first of all, why the 1940s? What happened in the 1940s where all of a sudden we as a planet were very

interesting to aliens. I'm not sure exactly what that's about. But also, like again, from what I'm hearing about this documentary or this movie or whatever,

Where's the proof are we seeing any proof in this thing or is it just people talking about it because we can talk all night and make a bunch of stuff up But where's the actual proof to this and so far I haven't seen anything ever that ever went. Oh my god. That's an alien. Well, and that's what the Hollywood reporters Daniel Feinberg dismissed the documentary as a basic cable exploitation doc done up with a fancy gloss in which nothing is proven and thus nothing can be refuted

the credibility I guess they might have. I'll share that after the break, but there are two politicians on each side of the aisle that are kind of supporting this. Okay. So we could talk about that next. Vicki on the stream says, great discussion guys. Thank you, Vicki. Great to have you with us. Please chime in. We'd love to hear your opinions. Todd Michaels is here, ladies and gentlemen, the new and improved. Well, the beard was pretty cool. I don't know if you're improved, but it's, he looks good. Join us on the stream and check out Todd. He produces Mino and the mayor and he's a paranormal investigator.

And we'll continue our discussion about aliens next. This is Nightlight with Peach Waba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Hi, this is Danny Slate and you are listening to Nightlight with each Wabba. All right, Todd is doing like...

Kind of a Mr. Roboto thing on the stream. You couldn't have pulled that off with the beard. I just want to say that it well That music that was that intro that came in was kind of remind me like a German techno thing from Touch my monkey member from Saturday Night Live. It's welcome to sprockets. That's right. Now is the time we dance

Todd Michaels is here, ladies and gentlemen. He produces Mino and the Mayor every day here at WGBW and WISS. And he's joining us tonight because he is also a paranormal investigator in his free time. And he's joining us to refute, discuss, whatever, a new documentary that premiered at South by Southwest about...

Well, last week that is insisting there is alien life and they are living among us right now. Dan Farah, the director of the Age of Disclosure, got 34 military and intelligence government officials to admit the existence of UAPs or unexplained anomalous phenomena, the new term for UFOs. So Todd, where do I go with this?

But where's the proof? Well, you mentioned that there was some political people on either side of the aisle. Who are they? I got distracted because this proof question I want to get to. Marco Rubio and Kristen Gillibrand from New York, a Republican and a Democrat, are in the film. They both talk. Gillibrand says it could be something being tested from overseas. She's more skeptical than Rubio, apparently. But again, I don't know that that.

is anything either. Okay, yeah, they could be, but supposedly they've recorded these objects flying at 50,000 miles an hour, which we don't have anywhere on earth, China, Russia. So that was interesting. Again, my question is, and you posed this question earlier, but why hide this from us? Why not just say, here's the situation. I think it was within the last couple of years, we had all those balloons flying over and blah, blah, blah.

And then we even had former presidents like Barack Obama saying, well, yes, there are UFOs and stuff like that. Or I think I remember something like that. Maybe it was a dream. I'm not going to lie to you. But again, if this is really going on, where's the proof? And right now,

Like, is would it be so bad if there were aliens and they came and saved us and, you know, took care of cancer and all that kind of stuff? Would it be that bad? I don't think so. Especially if the documentary suggests that they've been coming here since the 40s.

It seems like the bad stuff would have happened by now. They obviously like it here. Maybe they like going to ball games or a county fair. I don't know, but why hasn't anything terrible happened? I don't see what the deal is with hiding the proof if there is any. We have a phone call, Todd. Can we take a call? Maybe a question for you, sir? Sure. All right. Conrad, who we got? We got Cindy from Appleton. Hey, Cindy from Appleton. How are you tonight, Cindy? Good, Pete. How are you? Doing very well.

I totally, oh top of the evening to you by the way, I believe in UFOs because I swear to God I've seen some of them over my lifetime myself because we used to live out in the country. But like I said before on your show, no alien would stay on this planet because we are the most ignorant species anywhere. They wouldn't waste their time on us. But what if it's warmer here Cindy?

I could put up with this. I'm sure that still wouldn't matter. We're just so ignorant. Like I said, we're destroying our own home. What other species would come here and say, oh, this is a brilliant bunch of people. They're destroying their own planet. Conrad, I think we have a new question of the night for tomorrow night. Cindy, thank you so much. Always so great to hear from you. All right. She makes a good point, Todd.

She does. And the other thing is maybe they're here to document our destruction of our own lifestyle and life and all that so that they can show other

galaxies and other beings. Hey, don't do this to yourself. This was really stupid. That's I mean, that's the only reason I can think that they're going to be here or really old reruns of what's happening and stuff like that that's still on the paper here or whatever. You just said reruns and rerun could be their favorite character that could do the rerun dance. They're trying to perfect that. I don't know. Yeah, I to me it's like

You might be right. Look what these idiots are doing. We've got a guy like Elon Musk who is so obsessed with going to Mars. And like I've seen in other discussions, we have a great planet. It can sustain life here. Why aren't we taking better care of this? So maybe there is something there. In this documentary, Todd, Luis Elizondo, a member of the government's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, was like their all-star guest. Even he doesn't offer proof. They just insist it's there.

What's the point of making a film like that? Have you met any other paranormal investigators who have come close to having proof or have heard of actual proof? Of aliens? No, I've heard a lot of personal stories and stories from people that I genuinely believe and believe that they would never lie to me. So I've heard stories, but even in investigating ghosts and energies and stuff like that, we're still very skeptical of that, but we actually have more

actual research and things that we can show and play and listen to and research that we can actually offer up to help prove the fact that there's something other than just humans on this earth or whatever, energies and stuff like that. I have not seen anything to prove or disprove alien life on this planet.

That's very well said. Can we keep you through the news, Todd? I would love to ask you about Roswell. Is that good? Yeah, we can do that. I know you got to get to bed. So I'm going to ask Todd about Roswell after the break because we kind of dipped our toe in that last time. I think there's a lot of people that don't really entirely understand what happened at Roswell. I think there are movies like Independence Day where, oh, they got an alien in a field. But I want to know what the hype is about. If you could help us with that a little bit, that would be great.

And then maybe a token favorite ghost story of yours we can cover too before we let you go. You got it. All right. Todd Michaels is here. We'll do all that after the news. Brewmaster at Flix Brewhouse in Madison. Dave Hansen joins us to talk about the new Night Light inspired beer at 735. Stick around for that. That'll be fun too. It's all happening here on Night Light with Peach Waba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Our question of the night, ladies and gentlemen, is inspired by our next guest. What is your favorite frozen pizza? We're really specifying what we want out of you guys tonight. So just a reminder, what is your frozen pizza? Let us know. That's a fun one, 855-752-4842-855-756. I have to say there are frozen pizzas I like better than pizzas you can buy in the restaurant sometimes. They've come a long way.

All right, enough pizza talk. We'll give you more of this with my next guest, who I'm very excited to have on the show. I've been trying to book her on the show for a while now. I love what she does. She's the editor of Up North News, and she joins us now over the stream, Christina Laurie. Hi, Christina. Hi, Pete. How are you? I'm very well. Thank you for... I like your background there. For a minute, it looked like a football stadium. You kind of have this... It looked like a stadium seating there, but it looks very nice.

I'm looking out over Lake Mendota. It's the top of my apartment building. Oh, wow. So it is a football stadium Wow, very cool. You pay extra for that view. Does it ever make you want to lace them up and get out there? You know, I haven't done it yet, but Never never too late. All right. I like your attitude So do you have a you sort of?

you know, inspired our question of the night. Do you have a frozen, a favorite frozen pizza, Christina? I do. And this is going to get me in trouble with my family. I'm from Chicago. So, you know, we take our pizza very, very seriously. But growing up when, you know, on nights when our parents were very busy, my brother and I would eat Jack's frozen pizza. That is a favorite of mine. It just kind of tastes like childhood.

the quality. I don't know, you know, it's questionable. There are some great local pizza joints out there. But if you're in Wisconsin and you buy Jack's pizza, you can feel extra good because it's actually made here. You can feel extra good. And isn't it really affordable too? It is. I mean, it's dangerously affordable. And if you get it at Woodman's, even better a deal, you know, it's a win-win Wisconsin based store, Wisconsin based pizza. Plus, I mean,

Have you ever checked out Woodman's Pizza Isle? It doesn't end. No, and I want to ask you about that too. Being from Chicago, that's my hometown as well. Have you ever had a home run in pizza? I have. I'm a socks fan.

So that's the official pizza of the socks currently. Okay. So again, yes, I do have that. Do you like that? That's my favorite probably frozen pizza. I like the lotsa-motsa line here. I think that stems from Wisconsin, but there are so many good ones. And the Jacks even was like, for a while, you could get like five of them for 10 bucks. And I felt guilty giving them to my kids, but I'm like, well, we're saving money and that tomato sauce. How fake can it be? Right? No, in this economy, it would do whatever you want.

Absolutely. So, okay, this is so great. Tell us about Up North News. How did you get involved with it? It's such a great publication because it's informative. You also have a ton of good news in there. I just love reading it. And you also make people feel really good about living in Wisconsin. Was that your goal when you set out or did it just kind of segue into that?

No, I really appreciate you saying that because that is the ultimate goal. So it's nice to know that's what's resonating with people. So a little bit about my history because I mentioned I I grew up in Chicago. I always loved the news. So obviously I was watching a lot of local news and like most major cities, the story that bleeds leads is the state may always use.

And in Chicago, I mean, that's a jam packed first 25 minutes of a 30 minute newscast. That's pretty much just all negative stories. And then final five minutes is sports. Right. So when I ultimately got into news, my first job was in the Quad Cities on the border of Illinois and Iowa. Then I moved to Madison and I was a local morning anchor for a while here.

And when I finally had a little bit of autonomy, I was writing my own newscast during COVID. And I mean, think back to five years ago, that was an especially depressing time in news. But there was a lot of really, really important, impactful, positive stories that we were missing. So instead of, you know, when there were all of the protests and the riots, if we focused on the people that

came back the next morning to help clean up those local businesses or, you know, at the height of COVID when the hospitals are packed. If we focus on those essential workers, those heroes, those doctors and nurses that risked their own well-being to save the lives of so many other people, I started focusing on those stories and leading newscasts with those so that when I ultimately left TV, I, well, that

entire process was a little bit controversial with a lot of news directors because they they still believe that if it bleeds it leads and they wanted to you know double down on that what they call hard news and I would argue the stories I was covering were also hard so I was looking for something with a little more flexibility and I came across up north news and they were really open to this strategy and I

Think it works. I don't want to call it like a strategy. We're not trying to sell you on anything We just believe that Wisconsin is a great place to live because it is and we're gonna provide you with the stories that showcase that and of course our little like tagline that I try to follow is purposeful positive and sometimes political because of course we're gonna give you the important news as well, but

Positive news is important, too. It's what motivates people to get out and support their local small businesses, cheer on their local teams, help their community members. So that's what I try to do. And I'm glad that's what stuck out to you. It really does. And every time I get the newsletter, I look at what your

you're posting in it and I'm so surprised like there's so many things I read where I'm like oh I didn't know that came from Wisconsin or I didn't know like you just it's actual news it's really it's informative and you're right like we know bad things happen the good stuff is and like what you just said the harder stuff is people that go in after and clean up or help other people and and that's news too I remember it's interesting you say that when it bleeds it leaves because

For a while, it seemed like news broadcasts were just trying to scare people or depress people. And I remember living in Chicago in the 90s. And it's all this local news. And then they cut to a story about a kid that was run over by a tractor in northern Minnesota. And I'm like, did they run out of depressing stories in Chicago? Like, this is local news. It's like, that's ridiculous. I know bad stuff happens. Tell me the stuff that affects me without sounding crass, I hope.

No, that's perfectly well said. I think the tipping point for me to get out of local TV was a day that I had I worked on a morning show which is important because you know when you first thing when you wake up you kind of want a little bit more positive news too and I started as a features reporter and I I was out Doing interviewing a troop of Girl Scouts for the kickoff of cookie season. I had this all set up, you know, it's you know, it sounds so small but

All of the money that you buy for Girl Scout cookies, it's still Girl Scout cookie season actually right now in Wisconsin. All of it stays local and helps your own community. So it is more important than just eating delicious cookies. And I had to reroute and cancel that interview because there was a

call of a possible stabbing at a residential home in a very quaint neighborhood in Madison. And it turned out to be nothing. And so we didn't provide this great story that would have spotlighted local kids doing an awesome thing and helped a lot of people and then just rerouted to the story that ended up not being a story. And if it was, it was not a, you know, nobody else was at

you know, it was a very private, personal disturbance. So I fear that that's the direction that a lot of news is going. So if you're looking for an alternative up north news. I'm not kidding. Up north news. And what I just love what you just said, you never cut away from a story about tag alongs. I don't care how serious the crime being committed is. It's essential. But check out up north news, folks. It's just great. It's informative and it's just.

very well thought out. It's a very thoughtful publication. So kudos to you for that. Thank you again for being here. My guest is Christina Laurie. She's the editor for Up North News. Does that, is that title just like, it makes me think like you're only, and I didn't even know you lived in Madison. I thought you were covering like all of Northern Wisconsin. I was like, man, there's a lot going on up there, but it's really the whole state, right? Yes, I know. I get a lot of emails about this, that our name is confusing. And I,

Completely agree with all of you. So if you're thinking that too, I know like up north is a region within the state of Wisconsin. Unfortunately, well, fortunately and unfortunately, we're part of a larger group of newsrooms. So we're in a lot of states. We're primarily in states that really make a difference in elections because we found while after 2016, there was a lot of misinformation going around. So we were formed to just try to provide more actual news and

information to voters. So you'll find us in like Michigan, Arizona, Nevada, Florida, you know, we're in lots of what they call battleground states. But because of that, someone from Washington DC had a lot of say in coming up with our name. So to them, Wisconsin is up north within the entire United States. But, you know, here in Wisconsin, that kind of refers to the

That's fair. It's not a deal breaker. It's not like people can go, wait a minute, that takes place in La Crosse. I'm not reading this anymore. Let's talk about some of the stories you've done. I love this. And since we already mentioned pizza, I was surprised. You called in a recent article, Wisconsin, the frozen pizza capital of the world. Yes, what a title to have, right? It is. How did you find that story? And how did you come to that conclusion?

Well, what's actually funny is that one blew up very quickly Usually it's more of just me kind of like stumbling across a small business that I want to highlight in like a local magazine or something But this one I actually saw on the today show. They did an entire feature I had mentioned earlier woodman's frozen pizza section a Tweet went viral of a guy just taking a like long lens photo of woodman's entire frozen pizza section

And it really almost seems like it never ends. And just like the numbers for you. So I reached out to Phil Woodman. And it turns out that his chain stocks 650 separate pizza facings, which that's grocery store lingo for the rows or columns of items in an aisle that you see, as well as 50 different brands for a total of 600 square feet in the store. That's better than some stores.

Yeah, it's quite literally insane and it shows our love of pizza We consume more frozen pizza than anywhere else. I mean it makes a lot of sense We're coming out of this winter actually hasn't been as bad as no many but there's still you know if you Have the choice between going out or just pulling something out of your freezer That's also going to be delicious on a cold winter night

I often choose the frozen pizza as well. Sign me up. Yeah, it says, it said in the article, Midwesterners consume twice as much frozen pizza as the rest of the country. That's crazy, but makes sense as to what you just said. So, okay, so you talked about woodmines. Three of them are here in Wisconsin of the frozen pizza genres, shall we say, DiGiorno, Tombstone and Jax. Those are all made here in Wisconsin.

Yes. Okay. And you mentioned lots of matzah earlier. That's also made here in Wisconsin. It's just not as national as those other ones right now. Okay. And then, of course, they're, I don't know, so you're up in Green Bay. I'm in Madison. A lot of our local chains too, they also

I mean, not local chains, like local standalone stores, they sometimes have their, their pizzas available frozen at local co-ops or grocery stores too. So that's also another option. If you want to more directly impact a smaller local business. I love it. And they've gotten healthier too. Then when we were young, it was like, when I was a kid, there was like Totino's and all these, it's like cardboard with, you know, a couple of cut up tomatoes on it. That's true, but I, I still like,

you know, both of us being from Chicago, there are a lot of pizza snobs, especially from that area, you know, won't touch anything that they don't think is the creme de la creme. I've really, I mean, if we're being honest, I've never had a bad pizza. Pizza is great, even the absolute worst pizza.

it's still better than most other foods. That's interesting. I will say this, and you'll probably look down on me now, but I lived in Los Angeles for 14 years, and New York style was very big out there. And as I've gotten older, it is tough to muscle down Chicago deep dish pizza. I totally fell in line with my New York friends, and now I'm a huge fan of thin crust, too, or New York style, so. You're very right. And actually, I think that's one of the biggest misconceptions about Chicago a lot of times, because, like,

Locals, we're not ordering deep dip. Right. We have thin crust pattern style. Yes. No, cut into squares. Hey, Christina, let's cut in. Let's pick up there. We got to do a very short break. Christina Laurie is here from Up North News. We're talking pizza. Stick around. It gets even more fun after this. Pete Schwab and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Midwesters eat twice as much frozen pizza as the rest of the country. Wisconsin is the frozen pizza capital of the world. These are just some of the fun things you learn when you read Up North News, which is edited by our current guest, Christina Laurie, who joins us over the stream.

Christine, here are some other fun facts that I thought were very funny. Pizza facts. 30% of Americans eat pizza at least once a week. 22% say they can finish an entire pie by themselves. That sounds like bragging. I'm not sure it should be. And then 19% enjoy a beer with their pizza. Seems like it should be higher. All of those stats, I don't know. To me, don't they seem a little low? I feel like we might have a few liars because...

I do think that more people that are admitting could finish an entire pizza. I agree. I get like this spinach mushroom pizza, very thin crust. I can polish that up. It's only like the whole pizza is like 900 calories. You know, it's not like I'm bragging, but some of them are smaller. No, it cracks me up. Like to look at the serving sizes sometimes on those frozen pizzas and grocery stores, it says like serve sex.

I'm like, no, this looks like a personal pizza. There is a funny quote that said, any pizza is a personal pizza with enough hard work and determination. That was probably created in Wisconsin. It said, this is interesting, too. Favorite topping was cheese. That shouldn't even be, I feel like that's not even a topping, really. It just kind of comes with the pizza. But then it says, followed by pepperoni, 66%, sausage, 58%, and mushrooms, 53%. That surprised me.

I know Conrad's shaking his head. He loves mushrooms on pizza, but were you surprised by that? Oh, absolutely. I don't believe in vegetables on pizza. I believe in vegetables separately, but I don't want them to have salad. Have a salad, keep them off the pizza. And then one more pizza tidbit I thought was interesting in what you wrote. Favorite chain, Pizza Hut 31%, followed by Papa John's 22%, and Domino's at 17%.

I see Domino's vehicles all over the place. That surprised me, like Pizza Hut almost doubling Domino's. I completely agree with you, and out of those three, I do personally prefer Domino's. Yeah, I do too. They make a pretty good thin crust pizza, I will say, for what it is, you know. Yeah, again.

I just, I will never say no to a pizza. All right. So now that we've gotten everybody hungry, let's talk, you did another article about three inventions or three things that were created more or less in Wisconsin. Another great thing that you learn with at Up North News, just informative, stem cells, social security. Can you elaborate on these things that you wrote about? Absolutely. So I,

I'm glad that I'm not the only one that's surprised by these findings. I mean, I lived in Wisconsin now for eight years. I know many of your listeners have probably been, you know, life along Wisconsinites. But still, I mean, working in news for eight years, I feel like I should know most things about the state. And every day I'm just like learning new things that were started here, a person who was from here, someone who has family living here. And these inventions just kind of like caught me off guard. So weather satellites.

Incredibly important for predicting not predicting actually forecasting the weather Especially now that there are so many, you know layoffs. Yeah So important that started here in the late 1950s At a lot of these inventions started at the UW Madison. It was just like a hop out of innovation Social security also started there It's just incredible. So if you

if there are any Badger alum, you probably know Whitty Hall, that's named after the father of Social Security, Edwin Whitty. I love when I find stuff like that out. Like my son went to Madison, he lived on Doty Street, and then I was in the Edgewater Hotel once, and I saw a picture of a guy named Doty. I'm like, oh, there you go. Same thing with Whitty Hall, I was gonna ask you about that. So he's got a dorm named after him, and he created Social Security, that's pretty cool. Yeah, and I mean, FDR, one of just kind of the most

Certainly the longest day nowadays. Yeah, I was gonna say most admired but I nowadays I don't know if that's accurate He's definitely one of the most impactful president he hand-picked witty to serve Economic security which helped create the Social Security Act of 1935 which 66 million people benefit from today So that's a huge impact from just one badger and then last thing that was

created here was just the entire process of space-based astronomy. It's pretty crazy just considering geographically how far away Wisconsin is from any of the places you typically associate with NASA. You know, you'd see rockets taking off from mainly Florida or sometimes Texas. But we are really just like pushing the forward space innovation. We have a great astronomer.

astronomical observatory here and the first iteration of the famous Hubble telescope. Yeah. And this might have been a separate article, but you talked about how the beginning of the stem cell research process started at UW. I mean, that's a pretty big deal, too. You read this stuff, it just makes you kind of proud, right? Oh, very proud. Actually, so the fluid

that they use when they perform transplants like a kidney transplant or a liver transplant. It's actually called UW solution universally because that solution was created at the University of Wisconsin.

that's just such a life-saving innovation. And one more thing along kind of along these lines that I thought was interesting is like you know you grow up and when you move here and even before I moved here from Chicago I'd heard about Vince Lombardi my whole life and how beloved he was even by people in Chicago like he's this iconic famous coach how how

Much of a supporter he was of civil rights. That was a great article. Let's pick up here. Can you stick around for a few more minutes? Can we keep you just for a few more minutes? I know you have practice pretty soon behind you at the football field there, but we'll get you over there on time. Christina. Get ready for coach. Christina Laurie is here. We're talking Vince Lombardi. And then we're going to talk pancakes before we let her go. We're having fun here at Nightlight with the editor of Up North News. It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media radio network. Great to have you.

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