
Good morning.
We made it to Friday.
It's Friday morning, December 12, 2025.
12, 12, 2025.
Another beautiful morning to have you here up north.
Live from Lake Wissota from wherever you're listening across the Civic Media Radio Network or through a podcast or maybe through the app coming through your Bluetooth speaker in your car or home.
We appreciate you wrapping up your work week right here with less than two weeks now.
They go until Christmas.
I got a question for you.
Who knew that Indiana would prove to be the moral center of the Republican Party that we used to know?
Because Republican senators in their legislature yesterday voted down an order an order basically from Donald Trump to Rig the maps so badly in Indiana a state that is overwhelmingly Republican a state that is seven to two in its congressional delegation
But to rig the maps to make it nine Republicans and no Democrats in Congress from the state of Indiana and the Republican senators in the Indiana legislature told him to pound sand I Am Every so often reminded that there are still good people who are engaged in public service that I won't agree with on many many issues But at least they still have the spinal fortitude to stand up and
understand when something is so amazingly wrong, even if it benefits them politically.
So God bless those Indiana Republicans.
You know, seven to two is still a pretty good congressional map.
No need to devolve to third world country status.
So good work out of you.
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And our question of the day actually goes like this.
Which candidate is in the strongest position right now to be elected Wisconsin's next governor in the 2026 election?
I don't mean if the election were held today.
I'm just saying that right now, if you had to go up to the betting window and slide a $2 bill over and say
put it on this person.
Who's in the strongest position right now?
No guarantee that they will win, but what's it looking like?
Why do I ask this?
Because I think several people would say former Lieutenant Governor Mandela Barnes, and he's going to be here, live, two hours from right now.
Former Lieutenant Governor Mandela Barnes recently announced his candidacy for governor.
a Democratic field that now has seven candidates in there, and he will be joining us live just after the eight o'clock news.
We talked to Joel Brennan live yesterday when he became the seventh candidate to get into the Democratic race, a former top official in the Tony Evers administration during his first term.
And we'd love to know your thoughts on whether this candidate field is pretty well set, like Joseph Peck, he told us yesterday.
He doesn't
really foresee anybody else getting into the race at this point.
This is the field here.
And do you have a favorite or do you have one that, even if they're not your favorite, you think this is probably the one who could win, should win.
We'd love your thoughts at 855-75 Civic, 855-752-4842.
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Parker Olson is producing this shindig down in Madison studio a2 and Looking like I mean, I don't see he doesn't have an afghan wrapped around him.
So I guess the heat works a little bit there Yeah, I mean it can but I say that because I mean listen to these temperatures nine below is the cold spot right now in Watoma Hey words at eight below a rice lake is at four below as is Black River Falls Richland Center is at minus two as is Wisconsin Rapids
It's zero degrees here in the Chippewa Valley right now and in Oshkosh, one above in Wasaw, three above in La Crosse.
The warm spot is down at Radio Park in Racine where it's 16 degrees.
There's some milder temperatures along the Great Lakes.
And this is just a preview of coming attractions because for example, here in the Chippewa Valley tonight, we're going to get down to at least 11 below.
And then Saturday night,
14 below zero for a low heading into Sunday.
We did not make plans for this weekend and we are amazingly thankful because it's really looking like if you don't have to leave the house, don't leave the house.
Oh, wait, there is another big game as Alicia reminds us.
It's a bigger game, yes.
The Army Navy game is this weekend.
She says happy Friday.
It is cold.
Yes, it is, but she will obviously be there wearing something that probably says, you know,
Go Navy beat army or something like that.
That's a good guess.
Yeah, it should be should be a good contest Tony's up on YouTube in the comment section saying I think Mandela is the betting favorite I think getting the Green Bay mayor and the superior mayor among other endorsements is impressive But I still wouldn't count out Francesca Hong
State Representative from Madison.
Absolutely fair take.
We'd love to hear from people who are fans of Senator Calderois, Lieutenant Governor Sara Rodriguez, Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley.
Of course, there's Missy Hughes, who used to head the State Economic Development Corporation.
So plenty of folks who can weigh in on what you think is going to be the strongest campaign for governor in 2026.
Also coming up today, our weekend review panel with some alterations because Mark Jacob and Jennifer Scholesi have gotten an early start to the weekend.
So along with former U.S.
Attorney Jim Santel, our panel this week is made up of Joan Esposito from WCPT Radio in Chicago and Dr. Kristen Lierly will be sitting in and we'll have more than a couple of headlines to talk about from the week.
We will be talking about, for example, Republicans in the legislature,
backing off their desire to force grieving women to scoop up the remains of a miscarriage and put it in a medical waste bag.
And I know that doesn't sound very, it sounds very graphic, but that is exactly what some Republicans in the Wisconsin legislature wanted to require of grieving women who'd suffered a miscarriage.
And it turns out that as people found out about that
they backed off.
So we'll talk to Dr. Lierly about that.
With Jim Santel, we'll talk about how President Trump has lost two more court cases that really didn't involve criminal prosecution so much as persecution without due process.
And is the White House ever going to look to its promise to tackle inflation or are they going to stick with the laughable argument that affordability worries are just a hocus?
That's all part of our panel discussion and more in our seven o'clock hour.
And I'm sure we will get to as well in both in the week and review panel segment and coming up shortly here with Courier Newsroom's Key of the Keel.
What happened in the Senate yesterday, the promised vote
on extending the enhanced premium tax credits that make health insurance more affordable under the Affordable Care Act.
There was a vote on it yesterday in the Senate as promised as part of a deal to end the government shutdown.
And it got 51 votes and you're saying, okay, it passed.
We're going to save some money now.
No, we're not because in the Senate, you need 60 votes to blow your nose and 51 votes.
A majority just ain't going to cut it.
You know, some of us
or old enough to remember when the United States Senate had a vaunted reputation as the world's greatest deliberative body.
Weighty issues would be debated by senators with the security of six-year terms resistant to the political wins of the moment and grand compromises could be achieved.
Yeah, those days are gone.
And it was really put on display tellingly yesterday when you had 51 senators
But that still wasn't enough for four Republicans crossing over But that still wasn't enough to stop the larger Republican plan to make Americans pay Exhaustingly higher health insurance premiums Just to make a political point just to make a point.
So I think they can probably spare all of us the affordability argument and just go ahead and stick with
No stick with the the issue of we were we're here for the health insurance companies and not for the consumer Tony says you got dr. Liarley of WCPT Chicago what I get yes, I guess I should point out not only Jonah Spasio from WCPT But the dr. Kristen Liarley show is heard across the civic media radio network on Saturdays But he also now airs on that Chicago radio station.
So good on her
From uh, yeah, there we go.
She she deserves a Casio keyboard round of applause that way But the Milwaukee Bucks defeated the Boston Celtics 116 to 101.
Yannis is still out though for some time, right?
still right now They they will next play Sunday evening in Brooklyn against the Nets I think most folks are focused rightly on
football because you've got the Packers at Denver playing the Broncos at three twenty five on Sunday.
So you will be able to see or I'm sorry you will be able to listen to the pregame starting at one o'clock on several stations across the civic media radio network.
And then again remember they play after this coming Sunday the next play on Saturday night.
So a week from tomorrow they will have a Saturday night game in Chicago.
And then the game after that will be a Saturday night game.
against the Baltimore Ravens, which everybody will be glued to because they'll be watching on Peacock?
Or will they?
You know, you can catch the game right here on Civic Media.
When your app fails you, and you get too frustrated to keep trying, you know, Wayne and Larry have all the coverage you need on the radio.
Give it a listen that way instead.
And also the Wisconsin Badgers women's volleyball team advances hopefully this afternoon throughout the NCAA national tournament.
They are a three seed.
They are now in Austin, Texas for the regional semifinal and they play this afternoon at 130 against two seed.
Stanford.
So, you know, the Badgers have consistently, you know, they haven't been atop the national polls, but they've been, you know, right up there and it's in the national tournament where you got to shine.
And hopefully the Badger women on the volleyball team will get a chance to do that.
And then normally, I'm sorry.
I mean, there's there's still a quality team, obviously.
And therefore, something you don't take for granted, some somebody, you know, a group of women that you really can cheer for because I mean, I'm not going to say they're total underdogs, but they definitely, you know, have some room for performance and growth.
And maybe they can show that off coming up this weekend.
All right, coming up next, we will talk to Courier Newsroom's Kee of Akeel, and then so much more ahead yet between now and nine o'clock when we have the final edition of Matt and Air on Air before Jane Matt and Air's retirement.
Big day today.
From the heart of America's up north, live from Lake Wissota, thanks for making this the place to spend part of your mornings.
I'm Pat Krightlow.
This is the Civic Media Radio Network.
We are talking just as the U.S.
Senate has held dueling votes on health care, though the one we knew was coming, you know, about extending the Affordable Care Act tax subsidies.
And then we weren't sure if there was going to be a Republican alternative or not, but in the end there was that plan put up for a vote.
And the verdict is nobody wins.
Nobody wins.
Well, maybe the health insurance companies, but other than that, nobody wins.
Now, I will say, and this is more of an indictment of the filibuster than anything else, but both of the votes were 51-48, if I'm not mistaken.
So technically, you know, people can say that a majority of the Senate, because it included, what, four Republicans, right?
A majority of the Senate voted to extend the Affordable Care Act tax subsidies, the enhanced credits, but 51 votes is not enough in today's United
the state senate yeah i mean this is
this joins the mountain of evidence that we need to get rid of the filibuster it's it's it's just wild that a majority doesn't mean anything in the senate um and yeah it's unfortunate because you know this the bill failed uh the house bills are almost certainly going to fail we have within three weeks people are going to see their premiums double triple quadruple or lose their like a lot of people are just going to forego insurance because
who can afford it when you're paying $700, $800, $1200 a month.
It's
Republicans put up exactly what we thought.
It was basically health savings accounts.
And I mean, we've talked, we've talked eight ways to Sunday about how that's just not enough.
But so from a policy standpoint, it's just not enough.
From a political standpoint, Kia, they still after 15 years have nothing,
They have not, I mean, that's because they are a party that their only ideas are to take rights and benefits away from people.
And that's pretty much it.
And then obviously now with Trump, some other nasty things up with ICE, but on healthcare, they have zero ideas.
A health savings account that is cooked up by some doofus at a think tank does nothing to actually help people.
Healthcare costs are crazy.
a thousand dollars a year in an HSA, that covers almost nothing.
Like it's, if you're super healthy, yeah, maybe you'll get a hundred dollars left over, but if you are a normal person, I'm 34, I just had a doctor's appointment, I have aches and pains, I have all sorts of things, and I know that's not gonna go away.
That would last me maybe two months.
And then the rest of the year, I'd be completely on my
Right, or a birth that costs in the neighborhood of $18,000.
They're going to give you $1,000.
All right, well, good luck with that.
So yeah, it was a joke.
So as noted, four Republicans did cross over to vote with Democrats for an extension.
No Democrats crossed over to vote on the Republican plan.
One Republican, Rand Paul, actually left it as well.
Meanwhile, on the House side of the Capitol, we have discussed how there are
understandably nervous Republicans saying, well, we need to put up something.
And I just got done listening to one Republican saying, you know, acknowledging that the subsidy extensions are supported by a majority of Americans.
Even Marjorie Taylor Greene is signing a discharge petition that would call for a vote on this.
Although I think that's more out of spite for Speaker Johnson, but she she does again recognize the popular support for people being able to afford health insurance.
Yeah, I mean, there are still some politically astute people in the Republican Party who recognize that if you take health care away from millions of people and make 15 to 20 million more, pay an arm and a leg for increasingly worse coverage, you're going to get clobbered at the ballot box next year.
And yes, they are gerrymandering.
They might reduce.
You know there are still swing districts there are and we're seeing in special elections Democrats flipping Trump held seats and winning them by 10 15 points so you can only gerrymanders so much and You know if you just completely Step on rakes on health care and make a point of making clear to voters that you don't care if they don't have health care They're gonna punish you and Marjorie Taylor Greene Sees that a few other Republicans in the house see that but
By and large, it's a caucus of Tea Party meets MAGA meets Freedom Caucus extremists who just don't care and don't believe government has any responsibility to help people, you know, stay healthy and stay safe in their communities.
And so what you have is they want it to be the Wild West where insurance companies can do whatever they want and people die younger, people are sicker and everyone's more miserable.
Keva Keel is here with us from Courier Newsroom and this is the time of year that people are traveling so I feel like we should let people know that the travel rules might be changing in one country.
To something I, you know, I can't imagine anybody would support where visitors will have to provide
their social media for the last five years.
That's to get into a country, which is already going to be hurting tourism.
Kia, what third world nation, what despot would have those kinds of rules for immigration being proposed?
So if you want to come, let's say for the World Cup or the Olympics, you have to provide your telephone numbers in the last five years, your email addresses in the last 10 years.
your IP addresses and metadata from electronically submitted photos, who the hell knows how to do that?
Your family members' names, their telephone numbers, their dates of birth, their places of birth, where they live, your biometrics, this should set off alarm bells, your picture on your face, your fingerprint, your DNA, your iris in your eye, your business phone numbers in the last five years, and your business emails in the last 10 years.
In no way, shape or form, would I ever provide any of that if I were going, I would not go to that country.
That is so crazy.
And it's good.
I mean, if anyone comes for the World Cup, I will be shocked.
Well, welcome to this happy place.
Welcome.
Ladies and gentlemen, the
You
know this depression is gonna be so great.
We'll be the ones eating the cats and the dogs.
That's gonna be fun
Once again, it is time to take another revealing peek back into history.
Now this man here Is gonna take me by the hand
gonna lead me down the right path
boy
And all that other mother jazz.
Fly me to the moon.
Let me swing among those stars.
Also born on this day, Bob Barker, the late great host of The Price Is Right, was born in 1923 on this day.
Also born on this day, back in 1943,
is Grover Washington Jr.
And a lot of people thought that it's him that you're going to hear in this little song snippet.
But it's not.
Play his big hit.
That was actually Bill Withers doing the singing.
This is Grover Washington Jr.
playing
I was forced to watch it.
Well, it was that or Lawrence Welk.
I mean, come on.
Okay, all right.
All right.
All right.
Actress Mayan Bialik is 50 years old today.
We're to think of characters from the Big Bang Theory in their fifties now, but she is also a birthday today for singer Sheila E. We'll basically look for any reason to play something Prince adjacent and Sheila E's the glamorous life.
Fits that to a T. She is 68 today.
Actress Regina Hall is 55 years old today.
On this day, 55 years ago, 1970, Smokey Robinson and the Miracles started a two-week run at number one.
This, of course, would be tears of a clown.
On this day in 1924, George Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue received its premiere in a concert that was titled An Experiment in Modern Music.
Gershwin played the piano as part of it, and it had a little staying power after all these many years later, 101 years later.
And let's see, I think I've got one more number one hit.
This one's from 1987 and it's George Michael.
So this became the number one song December 12th of 1987.
So it would go on to become the best-selling single of 1988 because this this thing too had some legs to it.
On this day in 1992, Whitney Houston began a 20-week run atop the U.S.
album chart with the soundtrack to The Bodyguard.
Thanks, of course, to, you know, I will always love you and other songs from the movie.
On this day, five years ago, Bad Bunny's El Ultimo Tour del Mundo hits number one on the album chart, becoming the first album entirely in Spanish.
to top the US album charts and still there are people who go, I don't know if he should be at the Super Bowl or not.
Sit down.
Yeah.
Here's a birthday for tomorrow, but we won't be on tomorrow.
And I mean, at his age, there's no guarantees.
So today, let's celebrate tomorrow's 100th birthday for Dick Van
Dyke.
It's a fair sentiment
I believe it happened with Bob Barker as well.
But the thing is with Betty White and Dick Van Dyke.
You have to admire that when they were still like 99 99 and a half whatever still had a great attitude You know they were still doing the occasional interview.
I've seen a couple of clips with dick Van Dyke and Like a lot of folks who had fame and fortune for a time He'd probably be the first to tell you he's surprised to have lived this long Because he he spent a big chunk of the middle of his career in a bottle, you know, yeah
He has said he does not remember much of this movie, Mary Poppins, from 1964, I believe, because his drinking was so heavy at that point.
But again, got off it.
got cleaned up and you know was just a funny terrific actor in all kinds of roles ever since so
It's just right in there.
Wow.
It's just right in.
See, I was immediately thinking about how Kate Hudson studied for her accent for this new movie Song Song Blue at the Mars Cheese Castle.
She would spend time there just listening to people.
So, hey, whatever gets it done.
All right, we can bring Dick Van Dyke out and we, you know what?
Before we get to the National Day calendar, let's not bury the lead here.
The beloved Jane Mattenair.
is wrapping things up today.
Greg, I mean, how cool has it been to be working with her these past couple of years?
Because I listened to her, you know, about 30 years ago, living in Milwaukee and hearing her and to get a chance to work with her has just been amazing.
Yeah, I mean, it's it's an individual that I grew up watching, listening, sorry, looking at myself right now in the live streams can't help him so pretty.
know, it's someone that I listen to a lot my mom like my mom would always have those stations on in the house and I would listen to Jane and it's.
For me, working with her is a master class in in radio broadcasting, you know, if you know anything about my story, I did not grow up in this industry.
So I've been very lucky to get where I've been and the fact that I've been able to spend my time for the past year since basically since I've been here with her learning.
and her giving me the ability to host the show when she's on vacation and, you know, just take on responsibilities, but also be on the air with her and learn how to be a proper personality on the air has been priceless.
And I, excuse me, appreciate so much.
And I'm going to miss her a great deal.
She'll still be in our lives.
She'll tell you herself, she's going to be texting all of you.
But also it's, we're going to miss her.
And I'm just hoping that whatever we do next with the show will be in honor of what she already set up with the mission of Matt and Aaron Eyre about conversations, learning, talking, you know, having a good time while doing it and just, you know, as she would say every day, finding a little joy and sharing it when you can.
And, you know, she, she actually
put off her retirement a little bit here because I mean, after years and years and years and years of being a morning show, you know, partner, she finally had the opportunity to headline a show and, you know, said, well, why not give that a shot?
And the the management under this little civic media umbrella, they were brilliant enough to put you in as co host with her.
And it has worked so amazingly well.
And thank you.
I just I think it was just a great opportunity for all of us.
And
the listeners included.
And again, this is all just to say that her, the final edition of Matt and air on air will be today from 9am until 11am.
And I have no idea.
And I'm sure Jane has no idea what you have sketched out for the show today.
If that ever happens, put a toy dinosaur right next to it.
And that way you have an excuse.
Greg Bach, you can catch him on Matt and Air on Air coming up 9 to 11 today.
One more time before Jane steps away.
And coming up here on the program, we've got Mandela Barnes, candidate for governor, coming up in just over an hour.
I'm Pat Krightlow.
This is the Civic Media Radio Network.
I want to say that.
It's the small bookstore alternative to Amazon.
you actually pick a small bookstore in your area, and when you order off of bookshop.org, a percentage of that goes to the small bookstore as if you'd bought it directly from them.
That's
Yeah, and I got a book in the mail yesterday, which I assumed was from my daughters, because they're the only ones who knew that I have a wish list at bookshop.org.
But no, it turned out it was somebody else who listens to the show and knew to go look over there.
So, Tony, I don't want to say that this was a nice way of telling the listeners to
me things, but the fact that I've now mentioned it and brought your quote up on the screen twice tells me that maybe you're on to me.
Could be the
It is a prequel called Sunrise on the Reaping and reportedly Jennifer Lawrence and Josh Hutcherson, the main two from the original trilogy, or quadrilogy, I don't know.
Quadrology.
Quadrology, thank you.
Fans are very excited because, quote, it's basically Jesus returning to Earth.
That's how excited they are to have Jennifer Lawrence back in the Hunger Games.
The statement, and Sherry heard me laugh out loud, the statement from the company says it's something like, you know, we are promoting the responsible use of AI.
And I'm like, responsible use of AI.
That's one of those contradiction in terms, you know, military intelligence or jumbo shrimp, responsible use of AI.
Sure.
Good luck with that.
Yeah.
What else we got for entertainment spots?
because when they announced that Jane's last day would be today, I'm like, um, you know, I'm not going to say my birthday.
I'm just going to let her have the day.
I'll celebrate later with family.
I'm not going to.
And then one day on the radio, she goes, it's my last day and Greg's birthday.
This is really a failure of on so many levels, of course, but you know how much pride I take in these, this day in history notes.
Yeah.
And I have, I have other.
people's birthdays in them too.
I had Dr. Lyle's birthday in here from, you know, a few days back.
Yeah.
And I am, I was positive I had yours in there and I'm thinking it's probably in one of the, I put it under the wrong day or something in it that you were, you're going to get like a message out of the blue going, see, I knew it was actually January 12th or something.
The
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