Our Useless Senate (Hour 1)

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Our Useless Senate (Hour 1)

Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Fri Dec 12, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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Well,

Pat Kreitlow

hey there, Wisconsin.

Good morning.

We made it to Friday.

It's Friday morning, December 12, 2025.

12, 12, 2025.

Another beautiful morning to have you here up north.

Live from Lake Wissota from wherever you're listening across the Civic Media Radio Network or through a podcast or maybe through the app coming through your Bluetooth speaker in your car or home.

We appreciate you wrapping up your work week right here with less than two weeks now.

They go until Christmas.

I got a question for you.

Who knew that Indiana would prove to be the moral center of the Republican Party that we used to know?

Because Republican senators in their legislature yesterday voted down an order an order basically from Donald Trump to Rig the maps so badly in Indiana a state that is overwhelmingly Republican a state that is seven to two in its congressional delegation

But to rig the maps to make it nine Republicans and no Democrats in Congress from the state of Indiana and the Republican senators in the Indiana legislature told him to pound sand I Am Every so often reminded that there are still good people who are engaged in public service that I won't agree with on many many issues But at least they still have the spinal fortitude to stand up and

understand when something is so amazingly wrong, even if it benefits them politically.

So God bless those Indiana Republicans.

You know, seven to two is still a pretty good congressional map.

No need to devolve to third world country status.

So good work out of you.

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Which candidate is in the strongest position right now to be elected Wisconsin's next governor in the 2026 election?

I don't mean if the election were held today.

I'm just saying that right now, if you had to go up to the betting window and slide a $2 bill over and say

put it on this person.

Who's in the strongest position right now?

No guarantee that they will win, but what's it looking like?

Why do I ask this?

Because I think several people would say former Lieutenant Governor Mandela Barnes, and he's going to be here, live, two hours from right now.

Former Lieutenant Governor Mandela Barnes recently announced his candidacy for governor.

a Democratic field that now has seven candidates in there, and he will be joining us live just after the eight o'clock news.

We talked to Joel Brennan live yesterday when he became the seventh candidate to get into the Democratic race, a former top official in the Tony Evers administration during his first term.

And we'd love to know your thoughts on whether this candidate field is pretty well set, like Joseph Peck, he told us yesterday.

He doesn't

really foresee anybody else getting into the race at this point.

This is the field here.

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Parker Olson is producing this shindig down in Madison studio a2 and Looking like I mean, I don't see he doesn't have an afghan wrapped around him.

So I guess the heat works a little bit there Yeah, I mean it can but I say that because I mean listen to these temperatures nine below is the cold spot right now in Watoma Hey words at eight below a rice lake is at four below as is Black River Falls Richland Center is at minus two as is Wisconsin Rapids

It's zero degrees here in the Chippewa Valley right now and in Oshkosh, one above in Wasaw, three above in La Crosse.

The warm spot is down at Radio Park in Racine where it's 16 degrees.

There's some milder temperatures along the Great Lakes.

And this is just a preview of coming attractions because for example, here in the Chippewa Valley tonight, we're going to get down to at least 11 below.

And then Saturday night,

14 below zero for a low heading into Sunday.

We did not make plans for this weekend and we are amazingly thankful because it's really looking like if you don't have to leave the house, don't leave the house.

Yeah.

Well, Pat, there are folks in River Falls who are playing a football game on Saturday.

Oops.

So they're going to be really cold.

That's what you're telling me, I think.

Pat Kreitlow

They are going to be really, really cold.

This is ice bowl territory that we're in right here.

So yeah, who's River Falls Plain?

I am double checking right now because to be perfectly honest with you, it's all mush at this point.

Once

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Whitewater is out, he just stops paying attention.

That's really what he's trying to say.

No, that's not it.

It's just there's too many things to keep track of.

They're playing against Wheaton.

Wheaton is down in Illinois.

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Wheaton, okay,

gotcha.

Wow,

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nice

reference.

Pat Kreitlow

Thank you very much.

Oh, wait, there is another big game as Alicia reminds us.

It's a bigger game, yes.

The Army Navy game is this weekend.

She says happy Friday.

It is cold.

Yes, it is, but she will obviously be there wearing something that probably says, you know,

Go Navy beat army or something like that.

That's a good guess.

Yeah, it should be should be a good contest Tony's up on YouTube in the comment section saying I think Mandela is the betting favorite I think getting the Green Bay mayor and the superior mayor among other endorsements is impressive But I still wouldn't count out Francesca Hong

State Representative from Madison.

Absolutely fair take.

We'd love to hear from people who are fans of Senator Calderois, Lieutenant Governor Sara Rodriguez, Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley.

Of course, there's Missy Hughes, who used to head the State Economic Development Corporation.

So plenty of folks who can weigh in on what you think is going to be the strongest campaign for governor in 2026.

Also coming up today, our weekend review panel with some alterations because Mark Jacob and Jennifer Scholesi have gotten an early start to the weekend.

So along with former U.S.

Attorney Jim Santel, our panel this week is made up of Joan Esposito from WCPT Radio in Chicago and Dr. Kristen Lierly will be sitting in and we'll have more than a couple of headlines to talk about from the week.

We will be talking about, for example, Republicans in the legislature,

backing off their desire to force grieving women to scoop up the remains of a miscarriage and put it in a medical waste bag.

And I know that doesn't sound very, it sounds very graphic, but that is exactly what some Republicans in the Wisconsin legislature wanted to require of grieving women who'd suffered a miscarriage.

And it turns out that as people found out about that

they backed off.

So we'll talk to Dr. Lierly about that.

With Jim Santel, we'll talk about how President Trump has lost two more court cases that really didn't involve criminal prosecution so much as persecution without due process.

And is the White House ever going to look to its promise to tackle inflation or are they going to stick with the laughable argument that affordability worries are just a hocus?

That's all part of our panel discussion and more in our seven o'clock hour.

And I'm sure we will get to as well in both in the week and review panel segment and coming up shortly here with Courier Newsroom's Key of the Keel.

What happened in the Senate yesterday, the promised vote

on extending the enhanced premium tax credits that make health insurance more affordable under the Affordable Care Act.

There was a vote on it yesterday in the Senate as promised as part of a deal to end the government shutdown.

And it got 51 votes and you're saying, okay, it passed.

We're going to save some money now.

No, we're not because in the Senate, you need 60 votes to blow your nose and 51 votes.

A majority just ain't going to cut it.

You know, some of us

or old enough to remember when the United States Senate had a vaunted reputation as the world's greatest deliberative body.

Weighty issues would be debated by senators with the security of six-year terms resistant to the political wins of the moment and grand compromises could be achieved.

Yeah, those days are gone.

And it was really put on display tellingly yesterday when you had 51 senators

But that still wasn't enough for four Republicans crossing over But that still wasn't enough to stop the larger Republican plan to make Americans pay Exhaustingly higher health insurance premiums Just to make a political point just to make a point.

So I think they can probably spare all of us the affordability argument and just go ahead and stick with

No stick with the the issue of we were we're here for the health insurance companies and not for the consumer Tony says you got dr. Liarley of WCPT Chicago what I get yes, I guess I should point out not only Jonah Spasio from WCPT But the dr. Kristen Liarley show is heard across the civic media radio network on Saturdays But he also now airs on that Chicago radio station.

So good on her

From uh, yeah, there we go.

She she deserves a Casio keyboard round of applause that way But the Milwaukee Bucks defeated the Boston Celtics 116 to 101.

Yannis is still out though for some time, right?

Um, I've got a very honest with it.

I don't really keep up with the Bucks I do know it was two to four weeks that he was looking at

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yeah should be

out

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still right now They they will next play Sunday evening in Brooklyn against the Nets I think most folks are focused rightly on

football because you've got the Packers at Denver playing the Broncos at three twenty five on Sunday.

So you will be able to see or I'm sorry you will be able to listen to the pregame starting at one o'clock on several stations across the civic media radio network.

And then again remember they play after this coming Sunday the next play on Saturday night.

So a week from tomorrow they will have a Saturday night game in Chicago.

And then the game after that will be a Saturday night game.

against the Baltimore Ravens, which everybody will be glued to because they'll be watching on Peacock?

Or will they?

You know, you can catch the game right here on Civic Media.

When your app fails you, and you get too frustrated to keep trying, you know, Wayne and Larry have all the coverage you need on the radio.

Give it a listen that way instead.

And also the Wisconsin Badgers women's volleyball team advances hopefully this afternoon throughout the NCAA national tournament.

They are a three seed.

They are now in Austin, Texas for the regional semifinal and they play this afternoon at 130 against two seed.

Stanford.

So, you know, the Badgers have consistently, you know, they haven't been atop the national polls, but they've been, you know, right up there and it's in the national tournament where you got to shine.

And hopefully the Badger women on the volleyball team will get a chance to do that.

And then normally, I'm sorry.

I think that you need to point out too that this Badger volleyball team is incredibly different compared to the ones last year.

So to get to this point is.

kind of remarkable for how young they are and how different they are.

Pat Kreitlow

It really is.

I mean, there's there's still a quality team, obviously.

And therefore, something you don't take for granted, some somebody, you know, a group of women that you really can cheer for because I mean, I'm not going to say they're total underdogs, but they definitely, you know, have some room for performance and growth.

And maybe they can show that off coming up this weekend.

All right, coming up next, we will talk to Courier Newsroom's Kee of Akeel, and then so much more ahead yet between now and nine o'clock when we have the final edition of Matt and Air on Air before Jane Matt and Air's retirement.

Big day today.

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Pat Kreitlow

Nice to have you back on a Friday morning.

It is 622, which means we check in with Courier Newsroom's Kia Vekila, our national political editor out in Los Angeles.

Kia, hello, how are you?

I am all right, Pat.

How about yourself?

Pat Kreitlow

Doing well, thanks.

We are talking just as the U.S.

Senate has held dueling votes on health care, though the one we knew was coming, you know, about extending the Affordable Care Act tax subsidies.

And then we weren't sure if there was going to be a Republican alternative or not, but in the end there was that plan put up for a vote.

And the verdict is nobody wins.

Nobody wins.

Well, maybe the health insurance companies, but other than that, nobody wins.

No, not even them.

They're the ones who get the subsidies directly paid to them.

So they don't win either.

Everyone loses.

Wow.

Good

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job, guys.

Now, I will say, and this is more of an indictment of the filibuster than anything else, but both of the votes were 51-48, if I'm not mistaken.

So technically, you know, people can say that a majority of the Senate, because it included, what, four Republicans, right?

A majority of the Senate voted to extend the Affordable Care Act tax subsidies, the enhanced credits, but 51 votes is not enough in today's United

the state senate yeah i mean this is

this joins the mountain of evidence that we need to get rid of the filibuster it's it's it's just wild that a majority doesn't mean anything in the senate um and yeah it's unfortunate because you know this the bill failed uh the house bills are almost certainly going to fail we have within three weeks people are going to see their premiums double triple quadruple or lose their like a lot of people are just going to forego insurance because

who can afford it when you're paying $700, $800, $1200 a month.

It's

Pat Kreitlow

obscene.

Republicans put up exactly what we thought.

It was basically health savings accounts.

And I mean, we've talked, we've talked eight ways to Sunday about how that's just not enough.

But so from a policy standpoint, it's just not enough.

From a political standpoint, Kia, they still after 15 years have nothing,

nothing.

They have not, I mean, that's because they are a party that their only ideas are to take rights and benefits away from people.

And that's pretty much it.

And then obviously now with Trump, some other nasty things up with ICE, but on healthcare, they have zero ideas.

A health savings account that is cooked up by some doofus at a think tank does nothing to actually help people.

Healthcare costs are crazy.

a thousand dollars a year in an HSA, that covers almost nothing.

Like it's, if you're super healthy, yeah, maybe you'll get a hundred dollars left over, but if you are a normal person, I'm 34, I just had a doctor's appointment, I have aches and pains, I have all sorts of things, and I know that's not gonna go away.

That would last me maybe two months.

And then the rest of the year, I'd be completely on my

Pat Kreitlow

own.

Right, or a birth that costs in the neighborhood of $18,000.

They're going to give you $1,000.

All right, well, good luck with that.

So yeah, it was a joke.

So as noted, four Republicans did cross over to vote with Democrats for an extension.

No Democrats crossed over to vote on the Republican plan.

One Republican, Rand Paul, actually left it as well.

Meanwhile, on the House side of the Capitol, we have discussed how there are

understandably nervous Republicans saying, well, we need to put up something.

And I just got done listening to one Republican saying, you know, acknowledging that the subsidy extensions are supported by a majority of Americans.

Even Marjorie Taylor Greene is signing a discharge petition that would call for a vote on this.

Although I think that's more out of spite for Speaker Johnson, but she she does again recognize the popular support for people being able to afford health insurance.

Yeah, I mean, there are still some politically astute people in the Republican Party who recognize that if you take health care away from millions of people and make 15 to 20 million more, pay an arm and a leg for increasingly worse coverage, you're going to get clobbered at the ballot box next year.

And yes, they are gerrymandering.

They might reduce.

You know there are still swing districts there are and we're seeing in special elections Democrats flipping Trump held seats and winning them by 10 15 points so you can only gerrymanders so much and You know if you just completely Step on rakes on health care and make a point of making clear to voters that you don't care if they don't have health care They're gonna punish you and Marjorie Taylor Greene Sees that a few other Republicans in the house see that but

By and large, it's a caucus of Tea Party meets MAGA meets Freedom Caucus extremists who just don't care and don't believe government has any responsibility to help people, you know, stay healthy and stay safe in their communities.

And so what you have is they want it to be the Wild West where insurance companies can do whatever they want and people die younger, people are sicker and everyone's more miserable.

Pat Kreitlow

Keva Keel is here with us from Courier Newsroom and this is the time of year that people are traveling so I feel like we should let people know that the travel rules might be changing in one country.

To something I, you know, I can't imagine anybody would support where visitors will have to provide

their social media for the last five years.

That's to get into a country, which is already going to be hurting tourism.

Kia, what third world nation, what despot would have those kinds of rules for immigration being proposed?

Oh, you know, Donald Trump.

Oh, wait, that's

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here?

The United States of America is going to say, if you want to come in, you got to turn over your social media for the last five years.

Papers, please, to be reviewed.

Yeah, let me I'm going to read off the list of things just because it's particularly obscene.

So if you want to come, let's say for the World Cup or the Olympics, you have to provide your telephone numbers in the last five years, your email addresses in the last 10 years.

your IP addresses and metadata from electronically submitted photos, who the hell knows how to do that?

Your family members' names, their telephone numbers, their dates of birth, their places of birth, where they live, your biometrics, this should set off alarm bells, your picture on your face, your fingerprint, your DNA, your iris in your eye, your business phone numbers in the last five years, and your business emails in the last 10 years.

In no way, shape or form, would I ever provide any of that if I were going, I would not go to that country.

That is so crazy.

And it's good.

I mean, if anyone comes for the World Cup, I will be shocked.

Pat Kreitlow

Congratulations, Republican Party.

You have become the big government you warned us about for all those years.

Unbelievable.

Keva Keel.

I think we got a special show next week, so I'm going to wish you happy holidays now and we'll talk to you later.

Thanks, Pat.

Have a good

Pat Kreitlow

one.

I'm Pat Critewell.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

Greg Bach

It's time once again for today's history lesson on mornings with Pat Critewell.

Well, welcome to this happy place.

Welcome.

Ladies and gentlemen, the

Greg Bach

Beatles.

That's one small step for man.

Well, I'm not a crook

You

know this depression is gonna be so great.

We'll be the ones eating the cats and the dogs.

That's gonna be fun

Once again, it is time to take another revealing peek back into history.

Now this man here Is gonna take me by the hand

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Guess who

gonna lead me down the right path

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birthday

boy

And all that other mother jazz.

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110 years ago for Frank Sinatra.

Fly me to the moon.

Let me swing among those stars.

Pat Kreitlow

If you have been listening to this show with any frequency whatsoever and you still do not have Sinatra live at the Sands with Count Basie, come on, get with the program here.

I know which one was

Greg Bach

your favorite albums.

Pat Kreitlow

Francis Albert Sinatra, born this day in 1915.

Passed away in 1998.

Greg Bach is here for today's Friday history lesson as well.

Mr. Bach, how are you?

Greg Bach

I'm doing well.

Pat Kreitlow

Well?

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, I'm doing well.

All right.

Well, to say good would be Grammarly inaccurate.

And Grammarly inaccurate

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is Grammarly

Greg Bach

accurate.

Thanks.

Good job, Captain Good English.

Thank you,

Pat Kreitlow

sir.

Very goodly.

All right.

Anyway.

Let's continue with the history.

Then we'll get into it.

Greg's got a big day ahead here, so it's a lot of fun.

It's

Greg Bach

true.

Pat Kreitlow

A little bittersweet, but it's going to be a lot of fun.

Also born on this day, Bob Barker, the late great host of The Price Is Right, was born in 1923 on this day.

Also born on this day, back in 1943,

is Grover Washington Jr.

And a lot of people thought that it's him that you're going to hear in this little song snippet.

But it's not.

Play his big hit.

That was actually Bill Withers doing the singing.

This is Grover Washington Jr.

playing

Greg Bach

tracks.

It's a Grover Washington track.

Yes.

Pat Kreitlow

A Grover Washington jam, if you will.

1943 was born.

passed away in 1999.

Former Milwaukee Brewer Gorman Thomas.

Storming Gorman, 75 years old today.

Greg Bach

Wait, have you ever met another Gorman?

Pat Kreitlow

Have I ever met another Gorman?

Greg Bach

I mean, I don't know if you've ever met Gorman Thomas, but I can't for the life of me think of another Gorman.

Pat Kreitlow

Another Gorman.

That's a great question.

This is one of those where you go to your Google machine and you put Gorman and you see what else comes up.

I

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think you're going to

get a lot of Star Wars stuff.

Pat Kreitlow

Uh, oh,

why?

There is a new planet from one of the shows called Gorman, I

Pat Kreitlow

think.

A planet?

Yes.

Okay.

No, I got, I got Gorman Rupp, a pump and electrical company based out of Mansfield, Ohio.

So Greg, I think you're, you're right.

I have, nobody's met another Gorman.

Greg Bach

They're all last name Gormans.

They're all like, burn Gormans.

Well, that's a weird

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name.

Happy birthday to Storm and Gorman.

One of a kind.

One of a kind, absolutely.

Happy birthday as well to singer Dionne Warwick.

She is 85 years old today.

So she

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had

plenty of

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hits in the late 60s, early 70s, but I think a lot of

Generation X knows her best from hosting, what was it, Solid Gold?

It was one of those weekend TV shows where they had dancers that danced along to the top hits.

You know, it wasn't quite American bandstand.

Greg Bach

Solid Gold was like the 70s version of it.

Like, it was, I had to watch it as a kid.

Pat Kreitlow

Oh yeah, of course.

I was forced to watch it.

Well, it was that or Lawrence Welk.

I mean, come on.

Okay, all right.

All right.

All right.

Actress Mayan Bialik is 50 years old today.

We're to think of characters from the Big Bang Theory in their fifties now, but she is also a birthday today for singer Sheila E. We'll basically look for any reason to play something Prince adjacent and Sheila E's the glamorous life.

Fits that to a T. She is 68 today.

Actress Regina Hall is 55 years old today.

On this day, 55 years ago, 1970, Smokey Robinson and the Miracles started a two-week run at number one.

This, of course, would be tears of a clown.

On this day in 1924, George Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue received its premiere in a concert that was titled An Experiment in Modern Music.

Gershwin played the piano as part of it, and it had a little staying power after all these many years later, 101 years later.

And let's see, I think I've got one more number one hit.

This one's from 1987 and it's George Michael.

So this became the number one song December 12th of 1987.

So it would go on to become the best-selling single of 1988 because this this thing too had some legs to it.

Greg Bach

I think my sister had two copies of this record.

Not the CD or the tape, the record.

Pat Kreitlow

The record, yes.

On this day in 1992, Whitney Houston began a 20-week run atop the U.S.

album chart with the soundtrack to The Bodyguard.

Thanks, of course, to, you know, I will always love you and other songs from the movie.

On this day, five years ago, Bad Bunny's El Ultimo Tour del Mundo hits number one on the album chart, becoming the first album entirely in Spanish.

to top the US album charts and still there are people who go, I don't know if he should be at the Super Bowl or not.

Sit down.

Yeah.

Here's a birthday for tomorrow, but we won't be on tomorrow.

And I mean, at his age, there's no guarantees.

So today, let's celebrate tomorrow's 100th birthday for Dick Van

Dyke.

It's a fair sentiment

Greg Bach

though because Betty White was on her way to 100 and we're like, wait, what?

Pat Kreitlow

What?

No, you can't do

Greg Bach

that yet.

Pat Kreitlow

Oh yeah, it happens.

I believe it happened with Bob Barker as well.

But the thing is with Betty White and Dick Van Dyke.

You have to admire that when they were still like 99 99 and a half whatever still had a great attitude You know they were still doing the occasional interview.

I've seen a couple of clips with dick Van Dyke and Like a lot of folks who had fame and fortune for a time He'd probably be the first to tell you he's surprised to have lived this long Because he he spent a big chunk of the middle of his career in a bottle, you know, yeah

He has said he does not remember much of this movie, Mary Poppins, from 1964, I believe, because his drinking was so heavy at that point.

But again, got off it.

got cleaned up and you know was just a funny terrific actor in all kinds of roles ever since so

Greg Bach

and really one of the greatest greatest portrayals of an English person by an American actor ever I mean

Pat Kreitlow

the accent is

Greg Bach

just I think he studied I think he studied on the west side of London for

Pat Kreitlow

like

Greg Bach

a year

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oh wow

Greg Bach

that would make sense

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that

Greg Bach

was a joke Parker

I don't know enough

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about dick

It's just right in there.

Wow.

It's just right in.

See, I was immediately thinking about how Kate Hudson studied for her accent for this new movie Song Song Blue at the Mars Cheese Castle.

She would spend time there just listening to people.

So, hey, whatever gets it done.

All right, we can bring Dick Van Dyke out and we, you know what?

Before we get to the National Day calendar, let's not bury the lead here.

The beloved Jane Mattenair.

is wrapping things up today.

Greg, I mean, how cool has it been to be working with her these past couple of years?

Because I listened to her, you know, about 30 years ago, living in Milwaukee and hearing her and to get a chance to work with her has just been amazing.

Greg Bach

Yeah, I mean, it's it's an individual that I grew up watching, listening, sorry, looking at myself right now in the live streams can't help him so pretty.

know, it's someone that I listen to a lot my mom like my mom would always have those stations on in the house and I would listen to Jane and it's.

For me, working with her is a master class in in radio broadcasting, you know, if you know anything about my story, I did not grow up in this industry.

So I've been very lucky to get where I've been and the fact that I've been able to spend my time for the past year since basically since I've been here with her learning.

and her giving me the ability to host the show when she's on vacation and, you know, just take on responsibilities, but also be on the air with her and learn how to be a proper personality on the air has been priceless.

And I, excuse me, appreciate so much.

And I'm going to miss her a great deal.

She'll still be in our lives.

She'll tell you herself, she's going to be texting all of you.

But also it's, we're going to miss her.

And I'm just hoping that whatever we do next with the show will be in honor of what she already set up with the mission of Matt and Aaron Eyre about conversations, learning, talking, you know, having a good time while doing it and just, you know, as she would say every day, finding a little joy and sharing it when you can.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes, exactly.

And, you know, she, she actually

put off her retirement a little bit here because I mean, after years and years and years and years of being a morning show, you know, partner, she finally had the opportunity to headline a show and, you know, said, well, why not give that a shot?

And the the management under this little civic media umbrella, they were brilliant enough to put you in as co host with her.

And it has worked so amazingly well.

And thank you.

I just I think it was just a great opportunity for all of us.

And

the listeners included.

And again, this is all just to say that her, the final edition of Matt and air on air will be today from 9am until 11am.

And I have no idea.

And I'm sure Jane has no idea what you have sketched out for the show today.

Greg Bach

Oh, it's going to be fun.

We're going to have great guests.

We're going to have some surprises.

None of them are.

This is your life.

No,

Pat Kreitlow

but there was a, there was a great surprise, a song or something that she'd worked on and she had, she had absolutely no memory of working on it.

Not in the Dick Van Dyke way, but in the way of, oh my God, I've done so much stuff over

the

Pat Kreitlow

past 40 years that, you know, I love when that comes up and you go.

No, literally, I do not remember doing that because I've seen that.

I've seen that with me.

You know, I'll look at something in a box in the basement and I'll go, I have nothing.

You know, it's a box of

Greg Bach

stuff.

Where did that box of stuff come from?

Pat Kreitlow

It all looks like my handwriting, but what was I thinking at that point?

So that'll be that'll be nice.

All right.

We can get back on track here as Parker tells us what's on the National Day Calendar for today.

Today is National Universal Health Care or Health Coverage.

Excuse

Pat Kreitlow

me.

Today is National Universal Health Coverage Day.

Yes.

Pat Kreitlow

Oh boy.

Greg Bach

Rough

Pat Kreitlow

day.

Wow.

Send a note to your favorite Republican senator right now and wish them a happy Universal Health Coverage Day.

You know why?

Because they've got it.

Yep.

They've got great health coverage.

Greg Bach

They've got amazing health coverage.

Pat Kreitlow

And so do your legislators who have been, you know, preventing a Medicaid expansion or expanding Medicaid to postpartum care for new moms.

But they have great coverage.

Greg Bach

Pat, and aren't the, isn't the Madison Legislature next next year going on like at nine or 10 month vacation?

They

Pat Kreitlow

probably will do at least a nine month vacation next year.

Fully paid.

Fully paid.

And health insurance, not a worry.

Yeah, all good.

All good.

What a great job.

I know.

No wonder so many people should go see it next year.

Yeah.

And see, we got one more on the calendar.

It is Gingerbread House and

Pat Kreitlow

Gingerbread Decorating Day.

Greg, you ever do gingerbread houses?

Greg Bach

I did them a couple of times as kids in school and they were they were exactly what you think they became towards the end, which was a weird mixture of gingerbread frosting glue and all of my tears.

Pat Kreitlow

And I do like the people who are smart enough to post on social media.

If that ever happens, put a toy dinosaur right next to it.

And that way you have an excuse.

Greg Bach, you can catch him on Matt and Air on Air coming up 9 to 11 today.

One more time before Jane steps away.

And coming up here on the program, we've got Mandela Barnes, candidate for governor, coming up in just over an hour.

I'm Pat Krightlow.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Pat Kreitlow

civicmedia.us.

What a nice way of telling the listeners to buy you things.

Well, we were talking in the commercial break about, we have Laura Burdon as a guest frequently, author and gives book recommendations.

And

Pat Kreitlow

she's the one who turned us on to something called, is it bookshop.org?

I want to say that.

It's the small bookstore alternative to Amazon.

you actually pick a small bookstore in your area, and when you order off of bookshop.org, a percentage of that goes to the small bookstore as if you'd bought it directly from them.

That's

Pat Kreitlow

awesome.

Yeah, and I got a book in the mail yesterday, which I assumed was from my daughters, because they're the only ones who knew that I have a wish list at bookshop.org.

But no, it turned out it was somebody else who listens to the show and knew to go look over there.

So, Tony, I don't want to say that this was a nice way of telling the listeners to

me things, but the fact that I've now mentioned it and brought your quote up on the screen twice tells me that maybe you're on to me.

Could be the

Greg Bach

case.

And if you're listening to the live, if you're watching the live stream, you've heard that story twice now, so you doubly know to buy him stuff.

All right.

You totally know if he's going to

Pat Kreitlow

tell the radio listeners about it as well.

I guess we should resume our regularly scheduled programming with some entertainment news from Parker Olson.

Yes, Pat.

I know you're not a big Hunger Games guy, but we have a Hunger Games story.

because

Pat Kreitlow

Hunger

Games Story.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes, because

there is another Hunger Games movie coming out.

It is a prequel called Sunrise on the Reaping and reportedly Jennifer Lawrence and Josh Hutcherson, the main two from the original trilogy, or quadrilogy, I don't know.

Quadrology.

Quadrology, thank you.

Fans are very excited because, quote, it's basically Jesus returning to Earth.

That's how excited they are to have Jennifer Lawrence back in the Hunger Games.

Greg Bach

How is she gonna be in this movie?

It's like, she's gonna be a child?

It's a flash forward scene, I guess.

Oh, a flash forward scene.

Yeah.

Fan

Greg Bach

service is just not worth it in some of these movies.

It's like... Yeah.

I'm talking to you, Marvel.

I'm talking to UDC.

I'm talking to all these big properties and IPs.

It's like, they might be in the movie.

Great.

I'm still not giving you $15.

Pat Kreitlow

Another one wrote that, for non-Hunger Games fans, this would be like Rihanna returning to music.

OK.

I get that.

All right.

Greg Bach

Tamp it down,

Pat Kreitlow

bro.

But it does lead to the story about Disney licensing its characters to an AI company.

And once this thing gets up and running, you will be able to create AI features with Disney characters in them.

What could possibly go wrong?

Greg Bach

Yeah.

The internet usually wins this one every time.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes.

The statement, and Sherry heard me laugh out loud, the statement from the company says it's something like, you know, we are promoting the responsible use of AI.

And I'm like, responsible use of AI.

That's one of those contradiction in terms, you know, military intelligence or jumbo shrimp, responsible use of AI.

Sure.

Good luck with that.

Yeah.

What else we got for entertainment spots?

Well, Pat, we have one more birthday to report.

Okay.

Greg Bach

Uh, yeah, it's mine.

My birthday's today, everybody.

Yeah.

What?

What?

And I have a wonderful song to commemorate the moment.

Hit it, Parker.

Pat Kreitlow

Oh, God.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Pat Kreitlow

Oh, no.

This is a tragedy.

This

Greg Bach

is amazing.

This

Pat Kreitlow

is Greg Bach's birthday revenge.

Greg Bach

So here's the thing.

Pat Kreitlow

OK.

Greg Bach

If you listen to this show with frequency, you know that every year, Pat forgets that it's my birthday today.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes, I do.

Yep, I do.

Greg Bach

And the first year, it was fun.

The second year, I'm like, oh my god.

And I'm literally driving to the radio station day, Pat.

And I love you so, so, so much.

You know how much I love you.

I was like, please let him forget for a third time.

I

Pat Kreitlow

did.

I did.

Greg Bach

Yeah,

Pat Kreitlow

this is not a proud moment for me.

When

Greg Bach

you play Frank Sinatra, I thought you were going to wish me, oh, hey, this is fun.

This is fun.

This is my doing.

Pat Kreitlow

Fun for you.

Greg Bach

No, it's great for all of us.

Oh,

Pat Kreitlow

gosh.

Greg Bach

Happy birthday, Greg.

Thank you very much.

I don't care.

Like, that doesn't bother me at all.

Seriously.

If you would, Pat, if you would have said, like, have a birthday, I'd be like, oh, man.

Pat Kreitlow

Well, it turns out that I did remember your birthday and there's a gift that just hasn't arrived yet from Bookshop.org.

Greg Bach

I

Pat Kreitlow

cannot believe that that hasn't arrived yet.

I'll be back on that site

Greg Bach

real soon.

Folks, this entire segment was brought to you by Bookshop.org.

Bookshop.org.

Buy your books locally.

Don't

Pat Kreitlow

give your money to a billionaire.

Greg Bach

Yes.

Pat Kreitlow

Tony remembered, he's got happy birthday, Greg, up there in the

comment section.

Greg Bach

Oh, man, that's amazing.

Pat Kreitlow

Tony.

So we had a whole segment about Pat getting gifts.

Great.

Well, yeah.

Yes.

Greg Bach

Yes.

Pat, I thank you for being the unknowing.

Pat Kreitlow

Unknowing is right.

Yeah.

Thanks.

This was

Greg Bach

this was the perfect start to my day.

Pat Kreitlow

And

Greg Bach

and and and yeah, I was I was actually trying to keep it totally quiet.

because when they announced that Jane's last day would be today, I'm like, um, you know, I'm not going to say my birthday.

I'm just going to let her have the day.

I'll celebrate later with family.

I'm not going to.

And then one day on the radio, she goes, it's my last day and Greg's birthday.

Pat Kreitlow

I'm like, oh, you know what?

This is really a failure of on so many levels, of course, but you know how much pride I take in these, this day in history notes.

Yeah.

And I have, I have other.

people's birthdays in them too.

I had Dr. Lyle's birthday in here from, you know, a few days back.

Yeah.

And I am, I was positive I had yours in there and I'm thinking it's probably in one of the, I put it under the wrong day or something in it that you were, you're going to get like a message out of the blue going, see, I knew it was actually January 12th or something.

Greg Bach

And happy birthday to Greg Bach, personality answer in media.

It's February the 14th.

Happy birthday.

Pat Kreitlow

That's it.

I'm just going to make up a birthday.

There you go.

I love it.

I love it.

I am so sure.

Couldn't have thought of

Greg Bach

a better way to spend time with friends on my birthday than this.

It's great.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes.

You can bring Paul McCartney back up.

I clearly deserve every little bit of what's left of this horrible Christmas song.

The

Greg Bach

greatest Christmas

Pat Kreitlow

song.

Have a great birthday, Greg.

Thanks, buddy.

Have a great final episode of Matt Naranair coming up at 9 o'clock and give her love from all of us here as well.

Greg Bach

We'll do.

Pat Kreitlow

All right.

Thanks, everybody.

All right.

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