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Now, from our Lake Wissota studio, here's the founding editor of Up North News, Pat Critello.
Well, hey there, Wisconsin.
Good morning, 6.06 on this Friday morning, November 28th.
It's another beautiful morning to have you here up north from Lake Wissota on this Black Friday.
if you happen to be up and heading to the stores, or maybe you're heading to your keyboard instead.
Don't forget Cyber Monday.
Maybe you're heading out to, you know, local business.
Well, that's for tomorrow, that small business Saturday.
Probably going to put something in that Salvation Army Kettle, or do you wait until Giving Tuesday?
I mean, there's just so many days to keep track of this weekend.
But whatever you're doing, we appreciate you taking us along on this Friday.
My question for you is, does Black Friday
have significance for you?
Or did it ever?
Were you one of those in the crowd to get a cabbage patch doll or a Tickle Me Elmo or a flat screen TV when those were the new things?
What's Black Friday?
What's your history of Black Friday?
And I, like I said, are you are you going out now?
Is it worth it?
Are the deals worth it to go out and face the crowds?
Clearly, some people still think that otherwise there wouldn't be the aforementioned crowds.
But what about you?
Whatever you're ended up doing, I hope that it's a successful one.
Hope you get everything that's on your list.
Hope you get a great price for it as well.
And start to scratch some things off your list for the holiday season, because yeah, here we are in the holiday season.
And our first gift to you is Greg Bach, who will be joining us later this hour for today's history lesson.
And we'll talk a little bit about Black Fridays as well.
And the things that we used to
to chase after, you know, TVs aren't what they used to be in both ways.
Good and bad.
And we'll explain that in just a little bit here.
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Contest as civic media just grows and grows and grows and grows and yet still somewhere down there in the civic media empire They've made room for a studio studio a2 where Parker Olson is standing by to produce this little shindig Parker.
How are you?
I'm doing well Pat I will I would like to point out they did not exactly make a lot of room
for the studio No, but what do you need it's it's it's just you it's so it's it's nobody else has a room quite like yours
No, no one else is in the broom closet like me.
Just gonna leave it right at that.
Yeah, exactly.
So what about you?
Will you be out shopping later today?
Are you a Black Friday Thanksgiving weekend shopper?
I cannot say that I am.
Frankly, I don't think anyone in my family is really.
I don't think any of us want to face that kind of hostility.
It's probably the best way to think of it.
I frequently, when I picture Black Friday, I picture Black eyes.
So I try
to avoid it.
It's gotten violent over time.
So I went looking for kind of the history of Black Friday deals.
And I found this from Business Insider.
It's a 2018 article, but it all still fits.
Because again, I don't think Black Friday is necessarily what it used to be.
But when you think of Black Friday in the shopping sense of it,
you really do start with the cabbage patch dolls in 1983 and so that was my sophomore year of college and I was confused.
I was confused over why all these people are pouring into the malls and of course malls were everything back then and piling up to get these
you know, quote unquote unique gifts.
And that's the thing.
They were sold as like unique.
They're like, they have their own individual name and individual birth certificate, but it's not really individual.
It was just that they had several varieties.
There was a
variety of them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you, you know, you're the one you get might be really special.
Sure.
Just hope that the next one you buy doesn't
just
happen to be the same one.
Right.
And so between that and like, uh, beanie babies and things like that, there were people who were like, Oh, these are collectibles.
I mean, I'm going to put my kids through college with this stuff.
No, you're not.
You're going to fill a burning barrel someday with all this stuff.
That's about it.
So that was 1983.
There was, uh, you thought, okay, lesson learned, right?
Fast forward to 1996.
Tickle me Elmo.
Remember that one?
Well, not you, not you personally, but the folks out there like, Oh gosh, I remember that thing.
And it was, you know, the, the, it was a little doll that, you know, vibrated and laughed and giggled and giggled.
And they really thought it was so cute.
But again, not worth fighting people over.
And yet there was some of that back then as well.
You know, it was Furby in 1998.
I barely remembered Furby's until I saw the article, you know.
Oh God.
Yeah.
I don't even.
Oh, I think I can picture a Furby.
I don't
remember.
But then it moved from toys into more grown up fare.
In 1999, Walmart started pushing these 19 inch TVs.
And these were not flat screens.
They were, you know, the old traditional TV, but at a low, low price that people were like,
Oh, hey, I can't pass that up, you know, put something in the, you know, the spare room or the garage or whatever.
And then it moved on to the electronics.
You had the Nintendo Wii in 2008.
We, we were all over that.
But again, not on Black Friday, you know, wasn't rushing out to get it that way.
Did it cost a couple of bucks more?
Yeah.
Did I did I have to punch or be punched to get it?
No, but I do remember the Nintendo Wii was a big deal in 2008.
Yeah, I still have my wee pet.
And it is a very fun party.
Gaming.
Oh, we loved our Wii and it finally conked out three, four years ago.
But, you know, we had just become grandparents and now as the grandkids started to learn games and grew up, that thing was responsible for a lot of good bonding and fun times with the family.
So I totally get why the Wii was the thing that it was 17 years ago now.
But from there, it was smartphones, you know, the iPhone that was new, the iPod.
Everybody was rushing for iPods on Black Friday.
And then iPads and other tablets came out.
There were all kinds of handheld games over the years, like Game Boy was all the rage, one of those Black Fridays.
But then there were also all the everyday goods, not just the TVs, but appliances like blenders and food processors.
There were vacuum cleaners and towels and, you know, all these ways to get people into the store.
And then the internet showed up.
in a big way.
And suddenly it was like, Oh, wait, I get free shipping with this.
Okay, I'll take that.
Sure.
My favorite Instagram reel that I saw last week that one of my daughters sent to me, it just had on a piece of paper, it had $350 as a price written down.
It just all it showed somebody wrote it down.
And then you come back to this guy.
And he's like, Oh, no, no, no, no, that's too much.
So then you see this hand put an X over the 350 or no, I'm sorry.
It leaves the 350 draws 625 and puts an X through it says was 625.
Now it's 300.
You cut back to that person and they're like, Oh, Oh, that's a good deal.
That's a steal.
Yeah.
And, and then below that, they write shipping $47, but then they exit out
and
they write free next to it.
And like,
Wait, I'm getting it for like half price and shipping is free.
Yeah.
Sign me up when they didn't actually change the price at all.
But if we tell you it's a deal, you'll believe it.
My favorite part about this is that's Black Friday for everyone, except Coles does that year round.
Yes.
Coles
will love price.
Everything.
But you get so much Kohl's cash and you need to
use it now.
The Kohl's cash.
Of course.
What's what's Black Friday with that little Kohl's cash?
There was also there was one other that was noted and that was the Instapot in 2017.
Hello, guilty.
Got on board that one, too.
And I've loved that Instapot ever since.
So that's when I joined that particular call.
I mean, I'm in two cults, Instapot and Apple with the iPhones and the and everything else.
Yeah.
I very briefly had one of the early Samsung Galaxy phones.
And I right away was like, Oh, this is as good or better than my iPhone and does more stuff.
But at that point, I already had like, you know, an iMac and three laptops and two iPads and so many other things.
It's like, I'm
stuck.
You do get to a point that it's just way too much of a hassle to not.
Yeah,
and I hate switching phones.
I can I refuse to I will Pat I would keep this phone until I die if possible
Just or at least just that that that particular brand, you know, I'm stuck in the iPhone.
I'm not unhappy
I'm just stuck is also coming up on the program today.
We're going to be talking to author Laura Bird and you're going to say, Hey, wait, you already talked to Laura this week.
Yes, we did.
And it was a great segment about books around a theme of gratitude and the various things that she is thankful for.
But we said, you know, rather than wait till right up until Christmas, why don't we get some more book ideas from you?
And she she suggested, how about even though winter's not here yet?
although, you know, the weekend forecast is, is looking a little dicey for folks, some folks.
Um, how about if we start to talk about beating the winter blues and books that you can read now, you get them now so that you're not like already in a funk when you're trying to figure out how to get out of said funk, like, okay, that sounds great.
So Laura Bird will be here to talk about books that can get you out of the winter blues, get them on your bookshelf, on your reading table right now.
it wouldn't be Friday without our weekend review panel.
So of course, our esteemed panelists will be along to talk about some of the things that have been making news, you know, heading into this Thanksgiving weekend.
And Dr. Kristen Lierly will be joining us as well as always on Fridays, talking about, again, heading into the holiday season and some of the things that have been happening in the news as well.
Like I always say, if you can't stick around for all that, I mean, Parker and I are contractually obligated to be here from six until nine.
We'd love it if you were too, but you don't have to be.
It's something that you can remedy by heading over to Spotify.
or Apple, if you're in the cult that I just mentioned, and sign up for us as a podcast and get the shows that way on demand.
Keep listening live.
We love having you here, but this way you don't miss an episode.
You don't miss a guest.
You don't make it.
You don't miss a particular topic.
So again, follow us that way.
Apple Spotify or wherever you happen to get your podcasts.
All right, let's talk a little sports now here at 618.
And my goodness, along with the Badger Men's basketball game later this afternoon, did you know we are also into high school basketball season across the Civic Media radio network on your hometown station?
There are several games today for folks in the Wasaw area.
They're going to get to hear Newman Catholic versus Merrill.
That's boys basketball at 535 this evening.
And then Wasaw West versus North, Northland Pines at 745.
And those games will also be live on the Civic Media app.
Meanwhile, listeners in the Wisconsin Rapids area to WIRI, they can hear Boys' Basketball in the CUSA versus Columbus at 6.05 this evening, and Assumption versus Neilsville, Boys' Basketball at 7.50.
Again, those games will be live on the Civic Media app.
And of course, you've got the Badger football team, they are traveling to Minnesota to take on the Gophers, 12.30 for the pregame, and then the kickoff is at 2.30 on Civic Media stations in Richland Center,
Amory, Wisconsin Rapids and Rippin.
I saved the best for last.
Of course, Civic Media has its own sports show Saturday mornings at seven.
Parker Olson is one of the big kahunas on make the call.
I am a big kahuna on the show.
Yes.
It's a big deal.
It's a big, very big deal.
We'll be talking a lot of badgers.
We'll be talking a lot of Packers.
You can listen.
I think I'm pretty much all of our Civic Media stations here on the news talk network,
uh, seven o'clock
and you can podcast
it media app and the app.
Yes.
The Civic Media app.
7 a.m.
on Saturdays.
Listen in.
Treat yourself for that.
All right.
Still ahead, as mentioned, we've got our Week in Review panel.
We'll be talking to Dr. Kristen Liarley, Greg Bach, and all much more still ahead.
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Welcome back.
It is 622.
Next week, our guests include Congressman Mark Bocan.
Pediatrician Dr. Kelly Snooks and Dan Schaefer from the Recombobulation Area.
But right now, we're joined by Key of Akeel, National Political Editor for Courier Newsroom, the parent company of Up North News.
Hello, Keya.
Hello, Pat.
How are you?
I'm good.
I'm a little frustrated, but we'll get to that in just a minute.
Before we get to the Georgia case that we all learned about back on Wednesday, let's talk for a minute about repeal and replace.
And I don't mean
what Trump's Navy secretary just did this week repealing an entire class of frigates and costing jobs in Marinette without a replacement plan to keep up with China's fast-growing naval fleet.
I mean the old school definition where Republicans just obsess over the Affordable Care Act repeal and replace and after all these years they still have no replacement and yet Kia when we talked at this time last week.
We had no idea President Trump was about to float a trial balloon on maybe going along with extending the enhanced health insurance tax credits, but he did and Republicans quickly shot it down.
My question to them is why?
You won.
You didn't have to cave in during the shutdown.
Now you get to look like you're choosing of your own free will to not jack up Americans health insurance costs.
Kia, how could Republicans not take the W on this?
That's a great question.
I think for a lot of them, they are just deeply ideologically opposed to it.
We sometimes joke about they have no coherent philosophy anymore.
It's just the party of Trump.
But there is a very real big subset of the, especially in the House, House Republicans who are
you know, basically the freedom caucuses who basically want a completely stripped down government, libertarian type state where everyone it's like a free for all and everyone fends for themselves.
And so they don't believe that the state owes it to people to give health care or make it affordable or to have safe roads or publicly funded schools.
So I think that's the big reason they just they just don't believe in it.
And, you know, I think obviously I find that abhorrent.
I think people deserve health care.
But you know, that's that's the Republican Party nowadays, you know, Donald Trump For all his many many many many many faults understands that there are still you know There's a politics to this and that the party will be punished in the elections if they don't do something But I don't know that the Freedom Caucusers care
Speaking of which
And again, we're just in speculation territory here, but so many Republicans were upset about the way things have gone lately, not the least of which is apparently passing on Russian talking points and calling it a peace plan for Ukraine, that there's talk, there could be enough people following Marjorie Taylor Greene out the door starting sometime in January.
Democrats could actually be in the majority in the House before the midterm elections.
Is that just, you know, idle chit chat for Washington?
Or if Marjorie Taylor Greene can do it, everything's on the table.
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a few more.
I mean, I think we'll certainly see many more people announcing their retirements.
I wouldn't be shocked if we saw a few more early exits.
But I think it's wishful thinking to think that
enough people will leave to flip control of the house.
You know, whoever that last person would be would get so much pressure.
You know, we've seen when the mob is sicked on people from Trump and the house, you know, what happens?
We have people who are getting swatted.
We have people who get death threats.
I think they'd be too afraid, to be honest, to retire or resign that.
if they were that decisive number.
But yeah, I think you'll see a lot of people head for the doors.
You could not pay me to do that job.
There is nothing about being a member of Congress right now that is appealing.
And they're in the majority.
They have a trifecta and they still can't get it together.
And
it's embarrassing.
They're miserable, but it's something of their own making.
We're talking to Kia Vakil, Courier Newsroom's national political editor.
All right, the other thing, and I mean, it's been...
almost 48 hours, and I still cannot believe that a judge in Georgia has dismissed the last pending criminal prosecution against President Trump.
Essentially all three criminal cases against him dissolved since he was reelected, even though there's still a racketeering case going on with some of his co-defendants.
And of course, for anybody that's been living under a rock, Trump called the Georgia Secretary of State.
It's on tape.
Pressuring him to quote unquote find enough votes to reverse his loss in Georgia and Now it's gone citing that US Supreme Court decision that says presidents have you know immunity blah blah blah blah blah How do I possibly ask a question of whether this is good is this good for Stable democracy much like Gerald Ford pardoning Richard Nixon is is there anything remotely like that or is just just a
complete miscarriage of justice when it comes to trying to defend our democracy.
No, it's really bad.
You know, he launched an attempted coup of more or less and it got off the hook and then won.
He did win a free and fair election in 2024, but he was not held accountable.
And there's a lot of blame to go around for that.
I think Merrick Garland deserves
a ton of that blame at the state level.
Obviously there's several cases and there's a lot of different factors, but yeah, it's an embarrassment.
I mean, you saw just this week in Brazil, their former president, right-wing president, Jair Bolsonaro, he's serving a 27-year prison sentence for basically trying to do the same thing in Brazil.
And we did effectively nothing now.
We're almost six years later or five years later, and Trump...
Basically got it off scot-free and that's really really bad for a stable democracy
And it just means that they're gonna try it again somebody if not trump then then somebody else will try again Although again, it would it would have to be a sitting president to get that kind of immunity
And again, that is a ruling that we're just going to look back on for generations for its complete and utter badness.
Keva Keel, Kerry in her Zooms, National Political Editor.
Thanks for coming up as we get into the holiday weekend here.
Hope all is well.
We'll talk to you next week.
Thanks, Pat.
You too.
Have a good day.
Yep.
Thank you.
Coming up next, we will have today's history lesson with Greg Bach, maybe a little sing-along as we move closer to the weekend.
And later, our Week in Review panel and Dr. Kristen Lierly and Laura Bird.
I'm Pat Crightlow.
This is the Civic Media Radio Network.
It's time once again for today's history lesson on mornings with Pat Cranklow.
To all who've come to this happy place, welcome.
Ladies and gentlemen,
the Beatles!
That's one small step for man.
Well, I'm not a
crook.
You believe in miracles?
Yes!
You
know, this depression is gonna be so great.
We'll be the ones eating the cats and the dogs.
That's gonna be fun.
Once again, it is time to take another revealing peek back into history.
Here we go
with today's history lesson on this Friday morning, starting in 1964.
On this day, the kinks first hit, you really got me peeked on the US charts at number seven.
It just could not catch up with the number one song in that week.
The great teenage tragedy song by the Shangri-La's leader of the pack.
One song had a little bit more staying power.
What?
One guy has a little bit more staying power than everybody else in this booth right now.
That would be Greg Bach, who's here like so many other Fridays.
Mr. Bach, how
are ya?
I'm doing quite well.
I noticed that Parker's face was...
Quite perplexed when you mentioned something about Leader of the Pack.
Do you not know the subject of that song, Parker?
I don't think I know that song at all.
Okay, well, I'm just gonna go ahead and go over here and drink my old man Poon Juice.
Teenage tragedy songs were all arranged for a time there.
Yeah.
Leader of the Pack tops among them.
Yeah.
What's the other one?
Dead Man's Curve?
Yep, that was one.
Oh, God.
Yeah, there were there a few and then and then
loved to popping around and being depressed.
Oh, yeah.
And then in the 70s, it got really schmaltzy like Shannon, which was a song about a dog dying.
Oh, God.
And alone again, naturally by Gilbert O'Sullivan.
And there are others as well.
And then at some point, you know, the 80s came and we made it, you know, violence against other people rather than feeling sorry for ourselves.
The the devolution of music, if you will.
But anyway, taking attention away from the kinks here.
So why don't we just move on from that 1964 hit to the Beatles releasing a song this day in 1967.
This, of course, was 58 years ago this week when the Beatles released the soundtrack to Magical Mystery Tour to a film that was about to be released by the Fab Four.
I don't know if those movies have staying power today.
I don't even know if they had staying power back then.
The 60s were an unusual time.
No, honestly, I think that if you think about it, it's the perfect commentary on modern day film when a hard day's night came out.
It
was...
a blockbuster hit starring this brand new wonderful band, the Beatles.
And then help comes out for like, Oh, another Beatles movie.
And then magical mystery tour comes on.
Like, Oh, this is straight to streaming.
This is straight to streaming movie.
They're not 1967 equivalent of streaming.
Yeah, I heard it was, I heard it was their weird work, but that's what everybody had to do.
I mean Elvis had probably made 23 films by that point.
Frankie and Annette, you know, and every
every artist and they were formulaic and yeah there was there was there's a reason you don't see them in the Oscars review every year for the Academy Awards.
Can I say that I didn't know there were films attached to these?
You can say that
you can say that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Am I gonna destroy
anybody?
Let me go fill my prune juice
Parker you've never heard of a hard day's night the movie.
No, I don't think so.
Oh, it is a it's a really fun movie because one it's a wacky wacky movie and music is amazing and it's a great commentary on their sudden rise to fame especially in America the especially the press conference scene where they're just messing with reporters Fantastic, but it's a great movie
Dick Lester, who also directed the first go-around of Superman 2.
I would watch that movie.
Apart from everything, it's really good.
Just think I
did not add it to your list.
Yeah.
Oh, it's getting longer and longer guys.
I know I we really should publish that list one of these times The things we have teased Parker about film and music Yeah, we could do that then we have an event where everybody could come in for screenings of some of these things.
There you go.
I like this.
All right Let's see on this day in 1895 1895 the first American automobile race took place
54 miles long from Jackson Park in Chicago to Evanston, Illinois.
54 miles.
A guy named Frank Daria won it in 10 hours.
It took 10 hours to go 54 miles.
That's that's my favorite thing to hear in like.
history recitations where
someone
will say the family got in the wagon.
We traveled south 10 miles.
We got there in four months and three of us died.
Just Ontario along the Oregon
trail.
10 hours to go.
I got there faster
walking.
I got there faster walking.
Exactly.
Yes.
All right.
So there you go.
First automobile race 1895.
Greg, I wanted to let you know.
We really, really appreciate you being here on these Fridays.
And
I feel like I haven't done anything really nice for you to express that gratitude.
And so for you, even though this technically happens on Sunday would be the anniversary of when this album hit number one, why not bring it up today?
On this day in 1968, the number one album was what?
Your friend and mine.
The late great.
Glenn Campbell.
Are you ready?
Yes.
I am a lineman
for the county.
Parker cannot
drive the main road.
Take it
Parker.
Next line.
Oh,
fellas.
I'm afraid not.
I was like either Parker's never heard this song or his screen is frozen.
I did
hold it pretty still.
He's just
staring at us.
What are these mad men doing?
A, a fabulous piece of trivia about this song that I just found out recently about this, the guy who wrote the song.
Uh, he wrote it.
I'm on to find the name.
Uh, but, uh, he said that like,
here's the song.
You're thinking of the great Jimmy.
Thank
you.
Jimmy Webb.
Thank you.
Sorry about it.
So Jimmy Webb writes this song.
He's asked to write a song about, about, you know, working.
He says, here's this one.
Do with it.
What you want.
Let me know if I can help you with it.
They cut it.
They recorded it.
They released it and he said the song wasn't done I could have given you more and I think it was either Glenn Campbell or the producer said it's done.
That's it Yeah, he's he felt like it was an unfinished piece,
huh?
Yes, and Honestly, so many people still lauded as one of the great love songs Yeah, you know you're out there.
You're working your tail off You're thinking about the person that you can't wait to go home to
It's it's simple and beautiful like so many things that Jimmy Webb did and Glenn Campbell brings it to life.
Absolutely.
Until, you know, Pat and Greg sing it as
we do.
Yes.
I had, I was gonna, I was gonna tell you this a couple of weeks ago.
I was, I can't remember where I was driving home from, but this song was on repeat and I was singing it with all the gusto in life.
Cause I
love this song.
We still do.
And I know we're not alone.
No, we're not.
We're not.
There's not a lot of us, but we're not alone.
It's a fine song.
Excuse me?
What did you just say?
What
did you just say?
It's a fine song.
A fine song.
A fine song.
One to be liked
by more than just the two of you.
Put a little respect on that fine when you say it.
I'm
sorry, but I don't need you, but I want you.
I want you for all time.
Think of a better lyric than that Parker.
Fine is in like fine wine.
Okay, good recovery.
Good cover man.
Thank you gentlemen.
An effort anyway.
All right.
The next person we're going to play is not the guy whose birthday it is, but he was responsible for this song and so many more.
Barry Gordy Jr.
founder of Motown is 96 years old today.
Did you like that transition?
Oh, we took that right from the end of Wichita Leidman right into the next thing.
That was gorgeous.
I really think
WBA, are you listening?
Best Transitions?
WBA, all those civic media, all those FM stations out there.
You're missing out on some real talent over here.
Okay.
Anyway, Barry Gordy, 96 years old, founder of Motown Records, music legend, enough said.
Other birthdays today, Randy Newman, great songwriter and his own right is 82 today.
Van Leader Paul Schaeffer is 76 years old today and John Stewart is 63 years old today.
Born this day in Seattle in 1942, won Jimi Hendrix.
I don't know that we intended to do this, but I mean we really have grabbed
the alpha and omega of 60s music at this point.
We did the kinks, we've got the Beatles, we got the Supremes, and we got Jimi Hendrix.
Born in Seattle, gone way too soon, back in 1970.
On this day in 1977, nobody'd heard of Larry Bird, but they did that week with the cover of Sports Illustrated introducing Larry Bird as college basketball's secret weapon.
Yeah.
Legend would follow.
Yeah.
Let's see.
On the darker side of history, on this day in 1994, Jeffrey Dahmer, convicted serial killer, was beaten to death in a Wisconsin prison by a fellow inmate.
Birthdays today include director Catherine Bigelow is 74 years old today.
And here's one for Parker.
We got one for Parker.
This one's right in his wheelhouse.
Happy birthday, 70 years old to this guy.
Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill,
Bill,
Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill,
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I
love it.
I love it.
Parker was just as happy singing to that one as we were to ours.
I was
very, very happy when I saw Bill and I on here, guys.
Each generation, I love how much you love it.
He's a great guy.
It's a great show.
He's a great guy.
Yes, he is.
Without a doubt.
No denying that.
Let's see, in New York City, the first Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade was held this day in 1924.
And let's close with some blues here.
On this day in 1978, Atlantic Records released the debut album by Dan Aykroyd and John Belushi as the Blues Brothers.
This was recorded live in LA over about two months earlier as the opening act for comedian Steve Martin.
The album topped the charts and it remains among the best-selling blues records of all time.
Which to me is kind of like Olivia Newton John winning the country music awards.
A whole lot of people going, wait a minute, what?
What year was that again?
That was 1978.
And people would only have to wait 20 more years to get Blues Brothers 2000.
Some good things good things come to those who wait.
Yes, exactly What's on the national day calendar or do we have a week calendar here?
What do we got going on?
We've got weeks and days Pat it is National Book Week, which is why we're talking about Laura Bird partly.
Yes, we are yes We have also got deals week because you know, it's black Friday today.
Okay, that checks out.
Yeah, we've also got day of listening.
Are you listening Pat?
What?
Day
of listening.
Yes.
What?
What?
That's again, another one of those days where I just want to grab the person who came up with that and crab him by the lapel and go, what is this really about?
But anyway, and finally, let's give us a food one.
French toast.
French toast.
Was it invented by the French?
That's what we really want to know.
We'll
explore that and weighty questions on this Black Friday.
Greg Bach visiting with us and then we've got much more coming up after the 7 o'clock news so stick around.
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But of course, before that, we got to get to Cyber Monday.
And of course, here on Black Friday, we got Small Business Saturday.
I don't know, Greg, where does
does one start with shopping?
Were you a black Friday shopper or do you just do the small businesses on Saturday?
Are you online only on Monday?
Where are you in your credit card parting ways?
Oh, good
Lord.
I am not a in the physical brick and mortar shopping person, especially the week of Christmas, weekend of Christmas.
That has never been,
an attractive thing for me.
And my, neither me nor my family require things that necessitate standing outside all night to get a deal, a door buster deal.
So I generally rely on, you know, online, do cyber Monday.
And if it's, you know,
small business Saturday, you know, my family has always got like, Oh, my sister always wants gift certificates from the same nail place and hair place.
So that I'll buy them there then.
And that's how I do it.
Like I don't really, and in fact, if anything, I'm going shopping mid day on a Tuesday when no one's around and knocking the things out.
I need to get rid of, cause I try to stay away from the mall, but if I have to, I go when it's not a popular time to be there.
So I don't,
It's not like we're getting up early.
We're going to get on our comfy clothes.
We're going to sit outside, drink cocoa.
And then hopefully I won't get punched in the face for a tea.
That's just never, in fact, I mean, and Pat, you, I mean, you'll know this.
I don't know Parker if this is something for you.
But like when I was a kid, black Friday started like noon.
Yeah.
Like.
They were closed Thanksgiving period.
The stores were
closed.
And then it was, we're starting our doorbuster deals on black Friday at noon or later in the day.
And they're open for a few hours with big savings, but it just over time became, we're opening at noon.
We're opening at 10.
We're opening at eight.
We're opening at six.
We're open
all night.
We're going to open at five.
Yeah.
Now Thanksgiving,
Thanksgiving one still cheeses me off.
I only
remember it as starting.
I'm like,
Thanksgiving night is what I remember to be like standard, I guess.
And that's just wrong.
I agree.
Can we still have holidays, like actual holidays, please?
And not have to, you know, work your people like dogs, you know, because you can, you know?
No, Pat.
Marketing, we must.
No, well, not if enough workers don't show up.
So that there may come a day.
So you talked about TVs.
We were we were joking earlier about how like the first big Black Friday for TVs was in 1999 when Walmart put out a 19 inch TV.
And I don't mean a flat screen.
I mean, one of the big old cubes, you know, for TVs and everybody is rushing.
I don't remember what the price was.
But, you know, that was I was like the big thing.
And
It's just funny to watch from black Fridays, you know, onward how then it became the flat screen was the big thing.
And then the, the, the flat screens got to be, I mean, look, look at some of them now.
I mean, you could park your car on, on one of them.
I was having this conversation with Jane earlier this week that when my mom bought her first flat screen CV, which was I think 27 inches, which isn't big, right?
No, you know, it was like,
$1,700 bucks.
And
she said, I'm going to keep this forever.
I'm not getting rid of this television.
And within five years, she had to buy a new TV because they all break.
And the technology is, is obsolete obsolete.
They're saying, Hey, why would you buy another TV like that when you can get bigger for less?
And that's just what happens now.
You can buy a 60 inch television for 500 bucks.
I wouldn't count on it for more than a year, but you can.
No, it's, it's again, they, they, they don't build them like they used to put it that way.
Once upon a time, it was, I mean, this was furniture, real furniture.
It
had, it had tubes and wires in it.
You could serve Thanksgiving dinner on a console that big,
you know.
You had you had a 5,000 pound television console with a three inch screen and you
liked
it.
You did.
That was the latest and greatest technology.
Now it's not that they're making.
I mean, yeah, they are trying to make the screens bigger all the time.
But now it's about, you know, what features do you have in it?
Wait, that TV doesn't come preloaded with all these apps.
Oh, you don't want TV, you know, 2.0.
You want TV 3.0, even though there's no other difference.
why
do you want what you just bought 4k why did you get that get 32k your eyes can't process that kind of clarity but you need it and the other thing too is they make this technology at such a price that you never want to take it in for repair
you just throw it out and buy a new one.
So
that is in the long run, you justifying your head, you're like, well, it's going to cost a lot of money, but buy a new one.
And by the way, for the record, don't ever buy the extended warranty.
The warranty that
comes
from the factory is perfect.
Don't be robbed.
The following.
It's all a nice for Parker.
It's all a nice for Parker.
That's true.
Yeah, that's fine.
No, I mean, I've got a perfectly good big screen TV here, but I mean, it's almost 10 years old.
But it's perfectly good.
But
because it was from that long ago, it doesn't get like some of the apps and things unless I, you know, plug things directly into it.
And then, oh, oh, you've got the wires hanging down.
Oh, you know, how is it?
God forbid.
Yeah.
How's it not built right?
And it's like, I'm not throwing away a perfectly good TV just to get, you know, whatever app, whatever streaming service might not even be around in two years.
I got a great response for anyone who ever gets on your case for things like that.
It's simply this.
I don't care.
As you could tell by that.
It's a simple world.
Absolutely.
So no shopping for you this weekend at all?
No, no shopping unless I absolutely have to.
It's going to be traveling with family and enjoying that time.
And then I'll shop on my phone and my computer.
And if I have to go somewhere, God help us all.
I'll park 30 miles away from the mall and just walk it.
Yes, but twice now you, you've mentioned going to the mall, which is just made you adorable for so many other folks listening.
They're like, you go to the mall.
Is there a mall?
What's up,
Brookfield Square?
There you go.
All right, Greg Bach.
Thank you very much.
Have a great weekend.
You as well, friends.
All right.
So much more ahead.
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