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Across Wisconsin on Civic Media, you're listening to Mornings with Pat Gritlow, powered by Up North News.

Now, from our Lake Wissota studio, here's the founding editor of Up North News, Pat Gritlow.

Well, hey there, Wisconsin.

Good morning.

It is 6.06 on a Monday morning, November 24th, 2025.

It's Thanksgiving week.

And it's another beautiful morning to have you here up north, live from Lake Visota, from wherever you're spending your mornings, listening across the Civic Media radio network, or catching us as a podcast, or on social media, or wherever, however you got here.

Thanks for starting your day, right?

Doesn't it always feel better on a Monday after the Packers beat the Vikings, Parker Olson?

It just feels so good.

Pat, the taste, the air, it tastes good when the

Packers win.

The air, it tastes good.

It is.

It's very

cheesy.

Yes, in only the best ways.

That's not my question of the day, though.

I got a question for you.

How far are you going for Thanksgiving this week?

Coming up, and are you traveling Wednesday with, you know, one billion other people it feels like?

Or are you getting an early start, a belated start?

Are you just heading across town?

Now, this isn't a contest.

to see who's traveling the far list for Thanksgiving.

It would just be nice to collect a sample of how far everyone is traveling this weekend.

I kind of did mine this past weekend.

We greeted you Friday from Madison and then we finished our drive to see grandkids uh 475 miles away from Lake Wistoda to visit the grandkids in Kalamazoo.

So how about you?

you can give us a call eight five five seven five civic tell us where you're off to or just tell us how many miles you think you're you're putting on the the car or the the airplane that you might be hopping on or you can you know simply get in the comment sections of facebook or youtube or you can use that civic media app

to send us a text or to record a voice note and let us know what are you up to this weekend or at least how far are you going?

We'd love to kind of get a relatively good sample of destinations from folks and whether you're even going this weekend at all.

Like I said, we saw family this past weekend because, you know, we've got some work to do this weekend.

So it's kind of a home weekend here.

So some people

They move their holidays around especially with us with two kids in different states and all the grandkids and people with jobs and everything

It's not there.

There's definitely years where Thanksgiving doesn't happen on Thanksgiving Day and Christmas or yeah, Christmas doesn't happen on Christmas Day.

You take what you can get.

So we'd love to hear what's happening with you as well.

855-75-CIVIC-855-7524842 is the number.

Let's see.

And I know Parker's been collecting phone calls and inputs been coming in already.

How's everybody looking out there?

Everybody being nice on the phone to you already this morning?

Being okay on the phones.

I think we got Cindy on the

line.

Hey, Cindy.

Good morning.

How are you?

Good morning.

How are you?

Good.

Thank you.

Did you have a nice weekend?

Oh, not so much.

Oh, I'm so sorry.

Is it going to be better this Thanksgiving?

Do you have some travels ahead of you?

Well, I'm heading down to Racine to see a couple of friends I haven't seen for a while.

That's as far as I'm going.

But I'm so glad I don't have to get on an airplane because I with what's going on right now with our

whole system is just I can't imagine people are going to put themselves in that position to get stranded somewhere for who knows how long.

So anyway,

Cindy, it's been so long since I have I've gone out of my way for trips that do not involve changing planes because we had such a bad experience a couple of years back that we now when we've gone on vacation, we've picked places that are only direct flights.

It is just that

It's that bad out there, but Cindy, you know, Sean Duffy's going to fix all this.

If everybody would just not wear pajamas on the plane, that's going to fix everything he says.

So, I mean, that has to make you feel better, right?

Yeah.

See, I gave Cindy a laugh.

We're already starting the week on a good note here, right?

Yep.

Good.

Well, Cindy, I appreciate hearing where you're off to this Thanksgiving, and I really hope the week starts off better.

Let's get this past weekend in the past for you as soon as we can, okay?

All right, so good.

Thanks.

All right.

Thank you, Cindy.

Thanks for calling in.

Always good to hear from you.

There's Cindy 855-757-855-752-4842.

How far are you going for this Thanksgiving?

You know, is it across town a couple hundred miles?

Are you one of those thousand mile people?

Parker, you are going to do what

on Thanksgiving?

I am going down the hall.

We host Thanksgiving in the Olson household.

That's okay.

Yeah.

There's nothing wrong with that.

I enjoyed light travel, Pat.

Yes, trust me, there will be days when it's like, you know, it's gonna feel like planes, trains and automobiles or something.

Roger and Steven's point up on Facebook, my wife and I are hosting on Thursday, then I work on Friday, but I am thankful that I am no longer in retail.

Well, that, that's a whole different question of the day.

Maybe we'll do that one tomorrow is, you know, Black Friday.

Is that, is that still a thing?

You know, do people shop and everything?

So maybe we'll tackle that tomorrow.

But for today, let's get into the Thanksgiving trekking.

and how far you are going.

Coming up on the program today, we'll be talking to Abigail Swetz from Fair Wisconsin as part of our Movement Mondays, where we talk to groups that continue fighting for fairness, justice, democracy all across Wisconsin.

And this time we're going to be talking about the ongoing battles to make sure that our friends in the LGBTQ community, our friends, our neighbors, our loved ones are being treated with respect, most especially by some of our politicians.

So we'll have that today.

It is Monday, so Dr. Kristen Lierly will be along and so will Up North News reporter Selena Heller who talked to a member of the cast of Wicked for Good who is from Wisconsin and who plays somebody in a wheelchair in the movie just as she does in real life.

And so Selena will have a little bit of that interview for us and we have our regular visit from author Laura Bird whose monthly batch of book recommendations

Certainly is in the spirit of the season, things to be thankful for, books that express gratitude, things along that nature that's coming up at 8.35 this morning.

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And Ellie is, she is really getting it done, collecting and soliciting photographs from our viewers.

There's a beautiful one here of a place called Gibraltar Rock from Jonathan who sent that in.

Let's see, she's also got a story about 12 different Wisconsin holiday parades that will get you into the holiday spirit.

Which I honestly, I was not thinking that holiday parades were like a big deal in this part of the climate.

You know, you kind of see the one on TV from like Walt Disney World or something like that.

But more places have added a little bit of holiday cheer.

There's, you know, the downtown Appleton Christmas Parade.

West Alice has one.

Of course, here in Chippewa Falls, what really got it started for me.

was the Bridge to Wonderland Christmas Parade.

When we moved here 30 years ago, I could not believe such an adorable, beautiful parade could be held in cold, snowy weather, but that's how we do it all the time here.

is that first weekend of December or so and there are many other Christmas holiday parades that people could want to learn about and you learn about them in our newsletter.

You sign up over at upnorthnewswi.com.

It's also where you can sign up for our Sunday morning newsletter and on there you can find our question of the week and recall that last week

We ask whether you have a close friend involved in not involved in politics, but who is politically the opposite of you.

And the final results turned out to be 6040.

Yes.

So about 60% of readers who sent in answers said they do have a close friend.

It was clear by the answers that it was uncomfortable sometimes, but that their friendship had to last over, you know, the political climate that we live in.

Another 40% though plenty were very

sincere as well about not wanting to surround themselves with people whose values might be so opposite of their own.

So thanks to everybody who sent in responses to that.

The question that we've got

This week is about artificial intelligence.

And again, we'll do more about this later on, but just a quick preview of how do you feel about AI?

And I give four different options about whether you think AI is going to be a positive or a negative and to what degree.

And so we'll get into that a little bit later on, but again, sign up for our Sunday morning newsletter and you can be the first to see and respond to our question of the week.

And, you know, if you need all this in a one-stop shopping form, head over to UpNorthNewsWI.com slash mornings.

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You can subscribe to the show as a podcast right there, and you can sign up for the newsletters all in one handy-dandy place, as they like to say.

Let's get back to the really good news, Parker, of the day, and that, of course, would be the

Green Bay Packers and the way that that defense absolutely dominated the Vikings Although it begins first.

We got to come over to the offense And ask the question that a lot of other people are asking Emanuel Wilson who?

Hey, no, no, no, no, I was on this guy Yes, yeah, I believe you've told us that yes, you spotted him early.

I think Dallas game.

I was on him

I, I think I was still kind of stuck, I'm still learning the name like, like Emanuel, uh, wait, isn't that the kid from Webster?

No, that was a different, this is Emanuel Wilson, an undrafted free agent from division two, Fort Valley State.

Where is Fort Valley State?

I don't know, what counts is that he's here now, made his first career start for the Packers on Sunday, rushed for a career high 107 yards, two touchdowns.

filling in for the injured Josh Jacobs to back up a dominating performance by Green Bay's defense as the Packers trounced the Vikings 23 to six.

The Packers forced three turnovers and produced five sacks to each from Micah Parsons and Devonte Wyatt.

The Vikings in the second half of the game totaled a net yardage of four.

The Vikings got four yards of net offense in the second half and three turnovers.

I listened to the whole game because we were driving back from Kalamazoo and that was a, that was a fun one to listen to.

I mean, yeah, the package looks really good.

Um, I think a little bit of worry for some people about, uh, how little they use Jordan Love, but frankly, he's basically dealing with a separated left shoulder right now.

Um,

So definitely want to be a little conservative with him.

And yeah, if I'm annual Wilson, if you can give him the ball 28 times and he can score two touchdowns, why not?

Well, yeah, I mean, again, it's it's not like a requirement that I have to know who these people are.

It's like if they're showing up and they're in a they're in a green jersey and a gold helmet, hand them the ball and if they can get it done, then later on I will.

Figure it all out, but don't don't wait on me Green Bay improves to seven wins three losses and one tie two and oh in divisional games So far this season pretty good after going one and five against the the NFC Norris as they like to say last season This is part of a stretch of three straight divisional matchups for the Packers.

They visit Detroit this week Thursday

Thanksgiving game starting at noon and then they host the Chicago Bears on December 7th, which again, that game has been flexed as they like to say.

It's no longer a noon game against the Bears on December 7th.

It's now a 325.

Consider yourself warned.

Are we going to be ready for the Lions on Thanksgiving Day?

Um, I think so.

I think they did.

I was worried about the quick turnaround in injuries, but I actually think with how little they passed the ball, I think that they're going to be pretty good.

I think it was a good week to get some receivers healthy.

Jordan loves starting to feel good defense though.

How about it?

Come on,

how about it?

Give it up for them.

I know.

All right.

Well, coming up, we'll kind of set the record straight on a little bit of misinformation that's in the headlines today.

Donald Trump's peace plan for Ukraine.

Give me a break.

From the heart of America's up north, live from Lake Wissota.

Thanks for making this the place to spend part of your Monday mornings.

I'm Pat Kratlow.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

So, if you missed it off the top of the program, our question of the day is how far are you traveling for Thanksgiving?

Man, you don't have to give us the detailed plans if you don't want, I mean, if you want to, 855-75 Civic, 855-7524842, where are you going?

Who are you going to go see?

Is it something new or is it the, you know, the same old trip, you know, year after year?

I know ours is a little different now because we, we did, we, we made the same trek year after year.

one of our relatives basically called dibs on Thanksgiving and that's what we did for I don't know was it 12 14 years something like that and you know we're all we're all getting up there a bit and this relative said that's it I'm retiring from from Thanksgiving because it started as

I don't know, maybe it was a dozen people, but then as other siblings got married, as others had kids, and as we became grandparents ourselves, it got to be rather unwieldy.

you know, where half of Thanksgiving dinner, half the crew is in the garage, you know, at tables, and you hope it's not too cold of a day out there.

So our traditions have had to change a little bit.

How about yours?

Are you doing the same old thing?

Are you shaking it up?

855-75 Civic, 855-752-4842.

How far are you traveling for Thanksgiving?

That is our question of the day, and we would love to hear from you.

All right, there are a couple of notes here that I wanted to share.

from their more national and international stories.

We try to do as much Wisconsin news as we can here.

But I do want to share this because in an era where misinformation and outright lies come from places that should be trustworthy beacons of American values, it's important to set the record straight from time to time.

So I'm seeing news coverage that says things like this.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio sought to downplay widespread claims that President Trump's peace plan for Ukraine was originally written by the Russian side.

Downplay claims?

He's the one who said it as reported by several outlets there were US senators including Angus King independent of Maine who spoke by phone to Rubio on Saturday and said that secretary Rubio described the peace plan quote-unquote as a Russian proposal rather than one drafted by the United States and Apparently the president got a little upset about hearing that he was you know having it being inferred that he was

Again, just being Putin's puppet and saying, no, no, no, no, no.

No, I wrote this.

Donald Trump wrote this.

You know, the guy who hasn't written a health care plan yet, he has concepts of a plan.

But we're supposed to believe that he wrote a peace plan for Ukraine, one that, by the way, would strip the country of plenty of territory and give it to Russia, limit the size of Ukraine's armed forces,

and has no significant concessions asked of Russia other than to stop fighting, stop killing innocent people, and accept the spoils of its invasion.

What I'm about to read is a quote from a Republican senator, Don Bacon of Nebraska.

He posted this on Saturday online.

Some people better get fired on Monday for the gross buffoonery we just witnessed over the last four days.

This hurt our country and undermined our allies and encouraged our adversaries.

That's a Republican senator saying that again just days after the vote on the Epstein files were just about every Republican abandoned the president's original position The the mega movement had better if it wants to stay coherent Better get its act together in terms of some kind of you know credibility on things like a more realistic proposal for what to do in Ukraine

Let's see, Dan's noting on YouTube here.

Dan, you are absolutely correct.

I misread that, that Don Bacon is a U.S.

representative from Nebraska, not a senator.

I was busy looking at the other senators who were talking about the Marco Rubio call.

Thank you for jumping on that right away.

Also in the news, Marjorie Taylor Greene.

If you missed this over the weekend, she is quitting Congress.

She's quitting.

She's just up and quitting.

Marjorie Taylor Greene, one of the first big

Public allies of Donald Trump could not be enough of a sick event for the the president But who had a break with the president on one issue that you know covering up for pedophiles is bad That's it.

That's that's where the break was but that was apparently enough because Donald Trump and others have been roasting her to the point where she is quitting now

That that alone would be enough Except that you go why quit why not just say I'm not running for reelection.

Why are you leaving and As a famous saying goes the answer to all your questions is money She's gonna be quitting on January 5th if I'm seeing the date right which by the way is two days after her fifth anniversary in Congress Do you know what you get when you reach your fifth anniversary in Congress a lifetime pension

That's right, a lifetime pension for five years in Congress.

Now it's not much, don't get me wrong, it's not a windfall, but it is a bit of guaranteed income as she leaves to go make what will undoubtedly be more money.

in the private sector as a talking head or working for a think tank, which sounds like a weird phrase to use with her, but she's gonna go make her money now and does not have to put up with the pressure of trying to defend a president who for months tried to cover up his relationship to a sexual predator and now that it's all spilling out, she's the one getting the heat, so she's leaving, but she's leaving with a pretty nice payday.

And one other story that we're following, the death of Doge, I have to inform you that

that Doge is dead eight months ahead of schedule.

Yes, it's true.

What got accomplished under Doge, which was supposed to cut all this spending?

Well, it got rid of a lot of regulations that would otherwise apply to Elon Musk.

Tens of thousands of federal employees were fired, but many were offered their jobs back, which amounted to months long paid vacations.

There was millions in interest fees, interest and fees after government projects were frozen.

And

All along this past fiscal year, federal spending increased, not decreased, it increased $220 billion.

Like I always say, those who hate government the most should be trusted the least to run it competently.

All right, we're going to get to know a man and his music.

Right after this break, we're going to talk about today's history lesson and a little Frank Sinatra coming up next.

I'm Pat Crichtlow.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

It's time once again for today's history lesson on mornings with

Pat Cranklow.

To all who come to this happy place, welcome.

Ladies and gentlemen, the Beatles!

That's one small step for man.

Well, I'm not a crook.

You believe in miracles yet?

You know, this depression is gonna be so great.

We'll be the ones eating the cats and the dogs.

That's gonna be fun.

Once again, it is time to take another revealing peek back into history.

Oh, here we go.

The Sands is proud to present a wonderful new show, a man and his music.

The music of Count Basie and his great band.

is Frank Sinatra.

Of course it is.

Of course it is.

If you're going to talk about a man in his music, you're going to talk about one of the best albums 60 years ago today.

NBC aired the musical special, Frank Sinatra, a man in his music, which is also what he called his Las Vegas show at the time, is introduced there by the great William Conrad, who was a great radio actor and then later a TV actor.

Remember Cannon from the 1970s?

Parker does not know.

No, I did

it.

Anyway, so the the TV special like this record begins with him singing a little come fly with me and I just I count this among the many I've played this album This probably hits 6,000 by now the number of times I've played this

or record is broken

Yes.

Oh, I've got it in many

different formats.

Don't

you worry.

Anyway, the

TV special.

It's got me thinking about the jazz concert that my son has tonight and what kind of cookies I should make for the fundraiser beforehand.

You make, you're gonna make cookies?

Yeah, chocolate chip or oatmeal scotchies.

Those are the two things that I'm thinking about.

Oatmeal scotchies seem like appropriate for, you know, they kind of have a fall cookie

feel

to them.

Yeah.

I think so.

Welcome to Cookie Talk, everybody.

So, yeah, let's go with, you report back.

And now that I know that you make those.

Consider yourself on notice if and when we ever get in the same room again that there should be a plate of those along with you, okay?

Yes, and some jazz because apparently they go together.

They sure do.

Well, especially if it's Count Basie and the orchestra.

It's the most.

All right.

Well, anyway, let's carry out today's history lesson and another birthday boy, Lee Michaels.

Kind of a one-hit wonder, but he is 80 years old today.

This is a big hit from 1971.

Lee Michaels, 80 years old today.

Actress Katherine Heigl is 47 today.

Actress Sarah Highland from Modern Family.

She is 35 years old today.

Uh, Kristen, if I told you we're gonna play a little Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, would that make you happy?

Oh, I would do it.

Do it

now.

Alright, do it.

Parker, do

it now.

Okay, I'll do

it now.

There we go.

Ooh.

Terry Lewis is 69 years old today.

No, he's not.

He's eternally in his 30s.

He is.

Teamed with Jimmy Jam Harris, they were along with Prince responsible for the Minneapolis sound of the 80s and 90s.

They were songwriters and producers for Janet Jackson and a boatload of other artists.

First hitting pay dirt with Janet's breakthrough album, Control.

They met at the University of Minnesota when Lewis was in a band that Prince would later rename the time.

as in Morris Day and Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis produced 41 top 10 hits and they were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame three years ago.

And again,

you couldn't go

wrong just doing a full song of records produced by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis.

And this album, Control, Janet Jackson, it was really important because women didn't have control.

overproduction of their albums and they handed that over to her and it was a huge hit.

It was it absolutely was it was more I mean you get a lot of like girls just want to have fun and other big 80s things but this was truly an empowering album

to see

that little little Janet Jackson was you know going to assert herself now and Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis helped make that possible Terry Lewis 69 years old today.

Don Robinson, a founding member of EnVogue, is 57 today.

I'm sensing a fever this

morning.

Well, Janet Jackson basically paved the way for EnVogue and plenty of other groups, you know, Salt and Pepper, TLC and others to come along.

Don Robinson, founding member of EnVogue, is 57 years old today.

Happy 68th birthday to Chris Hayes.

He was the lead guitarist for Huey Lewis in the news during their big years, born in Great Lakes, Illinois.

Chris Hayes co-wrote some of the band's biggest hits, including I Want a New Drug and the Power of Love.

The number one song this day in 1973 was by Ringo Starr.

I love this song.

You know the Beatles are coming back.

Well, that's going to be some celestial news

right there.

They're going to replay the anthology on Disney Plus.

And apparently, Sam Mendes is making biopics individually of all four of the Beatles set to come out in like 28.

Oh,

that would be really nice.

Yeah, we mentioned last weekend, or last week rather, was the 30th anniversary of the Beatles anthology mega series and mega album and coming out again.

So there you go.

Let's see a an already tragic weekend turned darker this week in 1963 when Lee Harvey Oswald was killed on live television by Jack Ruby at the Dallas police station on this day in 1966 Okay, this this is a sad

A sad note.

400 people in New York City died that day of respiratory failure and heart attacks on the smogiest day in the city's history.

That is a very dark thing, but I say it because I want you all to appreciate how far we've come since then with things like the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act, the Environmental Protection Agency, and everything that a certain subset of this country is trying to shut down.

Just remember,

This was a normal day in New York City in 1966.

400 people dying that day.

Can we hear a little bit for progress since those terrible times?

Clean air is a victim of its own success.

It is, yeah.

It's like, oh, there's no problem.

There's no problem here.

We're

fine.

We don't need that.

Waste, fraud, and abuse.

Also, take a deep breath.

Yeah.

Just short attention spans, America.

Shortest peak.

Keep, you gotta look, look at the whole history.

All right, did you know that until 1979, on this day, a duet between two women had never hit number one?

That changed on, what is this, November 24th, 1979, and the women to do it would be Donna Summer and Barbara

Streisand.

This really is one day for the girls, isn't it?

Such a great song.

I know.

It was...

Bring Disco back.

Could we do that?

Remember how happy we were during Disco?

It was great.

I mean, even those of us who were only kids and not doing cocaine, it was a happy time for all of us.

All of us.

It was the happiness.

Anyway, let's see.

On this day in 1991, Freddie Mercury passed away from AIDS at the age of 45.

On this day in 1993,

The Brady Bill passed, establishing a five-day waiting period for U.S.

handgun sales.

You know, let's take that music out and let's do what I just did with Clean Air again on guns, okay?

Because in 1993, the Brady Bill established a five-day waiting period for handguns and it worked.

It worked.

It worked.

George W. Bush and the Republicans took control of Congress in the early 2000s, took it away, shootings, mass shootings have gone up ever since.

Again, Kristen, let's appreciate the things that worked and stop taking them for granted.

And let's remember that most Americans support responsible gun ownership.

overwhelmingly, overwhelmingly support things like waiting periods and universal background checks and red flag laws and all of that, which does nothing, nothing to diminish Second Amendment rights to keep in bare arms, responsibly in much the same way First Amendment prevents things or protects all speech but not like hate speech and things like that.

You gotta have some guardrails, kids.

You lose

the guardrails.

You gotta have some guardrails.

And you gotta get past the politics.

You gotta get past the politics and focus on the policy and the issues.

And that's what most Americans are.

Totally agree.

Exactly.

So, all right.

There, Parker, I got my serious stuff out of the way.

You

can bring in whatever music you want here.

Because we got one more happy note on the history lesson for today.

On this day in 2009, Donnie Osmond was the winner of season nine of Dancing with the Stars.

Adorable.

Isn't he though?

Was it wearing purple

socks?

I would bet, yeah, because before Prince, it was Donnie Osman who was like Mr. Purple.

That was his thing.

Roger puts up on Facebook here.

Did you know Donna Summer had top 10 hits on six different labels?

No.

I did

not.

She had

top 10 hits.

Wow, how is that

possible?

For Columbia Records, Geffen, Mercury, Atlantic, Casablanca, and Oasis Records.

So she

did like to go from

label to label.

Well, long enough, not

but not that long.

Well, no, her longer than the Beatles.

And yes, yeah, we've got that.

That's true.

What's on the national day calendar for today?

Well, Pat, in order to have clean air, there's something you need.

These are trees.

It is tree week.

Pat, I'm in favor of those.

Yes.

So is this literally like tree hugger week?

Are we supposed to hug a tree?

I mean, knock yourself out.

Do whatever you want.

Let's be clear, though.

Pat Crichtlow stands in favor of trees.

I'm in favor of trees.

That's it.

I mean, I approve this message.

Yes.

Thank you.

All right.

Who else we got here?

It is

also celebrate your unique talent day.

Pat, do you have a unique talent?

Oh boy.

Here we

go.

Is there one that's radio friendly that is negative and too passive

aggressive?

To what?

To what degree you can say the words without actually using the word that starts with BS.

I don't know.

Whatever it is.

I'm able to gab like this for three hours.

So I don't know.

Tony on YouTube says the Lorax has taught me that trees are overrated.

That's funny, Tony.

Tony, who lives in the Northwoods?

Yeah, right.

Exactly.

Celebrate

your unique talent.

Wait a minute.

Yo, Parker, what's your unique talent?

Yeah,

Parker.

I can do this with my finger.

Oh, that's a crooked finger.

Yeah, I can do that for listeners.

I can do the little double-jointed thing or I could just bend one.

It's very odd.

Yes.

I don't know if it's talent, but I can do it.

So

there you go.

Hey, it's a talent.

You can do it on command.

So there,

you know.

Amazing.

Kristen.

Probably not fair, because I mean you went to med school and everything,

so

you've got that talent, but I would think it's, shall we go with empathy?

Is a really unique talent?

You're a good listener.

That's not a talent.

I

know.

I mean, these days apparently it

is.

I'm

spiking 100 miles, I don't know.

I can sing like a chipmunk.

Oh, that's

right, that is a talent of yours.

Wait, are you in the muskrat love song?

No, that's

not how

it

would be.

No, that's chipmunks.

She

can seem like a chipmunk, not

a muskrat.

Totally different things right there.

Yeah.

I make appearances mostly with Alvin and his friends, but sometimes like Michael Jackson, PYT.

You know, they're just those moments where that is a very important skill to have.

Michael Jackson's PYT.

So unlike a chipmunk, is that what you're saying?

Just there's a guest appearance.

Oh, OK.

Can you give us an example?

No.

There

you go.

Maybe in a future segment.

Stay tuned.

That's what you call a

tease.

We'll do.

All right, Up North News reporter Selena Heller will be joining us in the next hour, talking to one of the actresses, Wisconsin based, from the movie Wicked for Good.

We'll also be talking to somebody from Fair, Wisconsin, and in her eight o'clock hour, author Laura Bird.

I'm Pat Krightlow.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

Nice to have you back on this Monday morning, November 24th.

It is 6.52.

And Kristen Lyre leaves with us.

And she is just dying to sing along to this karaoke track.

But instead is going to take us up on our question of the day.

How far are you traveling for Thanksgiving?

Me?

Yeah, you.

I'm going straight to the kitchen.

Yep, you're not the only one.

I've got a couple of those here.

This one from Alicia.

I'm going from my bedroom to my kitchen.

That's about it.

So no, we're asking people how far they travel for Thanksgiving.

Selena Heller noted road warrior probably going as far as the Black Falls area, I would

imagine.

Around that area.

That direction but Coral City now my yeah family in there.

It's a little tiny town

Have you gotten taller or is your desk getting smaller?

I feel like my neck is, I'm looking up at you now more than we used to.

Yeah.

Oh, it's the same.

Okay.

All right.

I think maybe whiskers have their whiskers.

They just look weird without the cat.

On cue.

That's it.

Yes.

See the cat changes everything.

I'm like

whisking.

Yep.

So thank for, are you traveling this Thanksgiving then?

Down to Jackson Johnny.

Okay.

Yep.

Yep.

Everybody comes to my house for Christmas and okay.

Do you, do

you have a particular duty on Thanksgiving?

Do you just like general kitchen help or do you bring a particular dish?

I always have dessert.

Okay.

And what are you making this year?

Do you want to tell us or do you not

know?

Oh gosh.

I don't I don't know usually we make some little cutesy turkey looking thing for kids and then usually some adults more not cutesy thing so but the cutesy turkeys are like Oreos with like candy corn around and make my head and so

It's the turkeys.

That's great.

Doesn't Kristen kind of looks like a piece of candy corn there with that orange sweater, you know?

Yeah.

Kristen, are you making anything in particular?

You're going to make cookies, right?

Anything else?

Oh, the cookies are for the jazz concert.

Yes.

And for Thanksgiving.

What are you going to

do?

Traditional family stuff.

Everybody picks a thing that they love.

We've got kind of

a standard menu.

And so it's kind of Brussels sprouts and mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes.

We got to do both.

All

right.

Good.

Yeah, and then there's the game.

So we've got to

figure out how to

eat around the game.

Yeah, that's true.

Everybody has that.

It's part of the part of the chore this year is to do that.

And another one of your chores is to remind people who was on the Dr. Kristen Larley show this past weekend and what you

up to.

Oh, this last weekend, we had Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodriguez, which was such a blast.

She's just such a solid individual and just to hear what her vision is.

if she were to be elected governor because you know she's running.

So much fun.

Just great conversation.

But guess who's coming up this weekend?

I can't imagine.

How far down the list have you had to scrape the barrel bottom to come up with your next guest?

I shudder to ask.

I'm so excited.

It's our own pack, right, love?

I

sat down over the weekend and had a great conversation.

You guys are going to love it.

It's about politics and media.

It's about everything we talk about here, but deeper dive and get to know Pat a little bit better.

Well, not just me, but the little friend that I had with me during the show as well.

Although I don't think Teddy made an appearance during the show, but certainly during all the breaks, Teddy was quick to the microphone to ask Kristen questions.

So he was.

Yes.

He was like any good six year old.

He was full of questions.

So he

was and I might I add that his Christmas list should include a drum that you can play with two hands

Because his current drum is only a one handed drum.

That's what he said on the list.

Yeah, two handed drum to go with you.

You asked if there was like a guitar or a mandolin or something.

And I checked after the taping.

The answer is yes, there's already a guitar there too.

So.

But he doesn't know how to play it.

No, no, hasn't had those lessons yet.

It's been busy learning hockey.

We went to go watch him at hockey practice.

And, you know, the kids only been skating for a couple of years now, you know, at six.

really, kids got some great moves already.

You know, offense, defense, shooting, all of that.

I am, I am super impressed.

So that was a, that was a big part of the Kalamazoo fun this weekend.

So that was kind of an early Thanksgiving for us with one of our daughters here.

So we're looking to find out how far everybody else is traveling as well at eight, five, five, seven, five, civic eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.

So yeah, Kristen and I will chat and then I imagine that'll be next Saturday at noon.

Next Saturday at noon also on YouTube also wherever you get your podcasts.

It's just light, you know, it's light and it's heavy all the stuff about media and How we get into small media places how we talk to people in smaller communities It's you know media is changing.

So

it was

a great conversation

You are you are definitely an interviewer that keeps things at a healthy information level.

It did not at all

you know sink into the interrogation that I had feared where I was going to have to

Spill the beans on all of my past lives or anything like that.

So yeah, you did a great job.

Thank you very much for that.

Let's see, on the text line here, Jim and Appleton says, good morning, Pat.

We are making big changes to our Thanksgiving this year because we are all working different shifts that day and a couple of sad emojis on there.

Yeah, that has to happen sometimes.

Jim and Brookfield says, good morning, Pat.

I'm part of the bedroom to the kitchen crowd as well.

However, we will be having guests from Chicago, Minneapolis and Washington, D.C.

So nice company coming in as well.

So good.

So yeah, there's not everybody has to travel some people are the hosts which again Already you see a gym in Brookfield kind of turn the question around if you're not the one traveling How far are people traveling to come see you?

And I know you've you've definitely had that Kristen where you know, you've got kids friends family come see you from afar They all want to come to Green Bay Well, this is where the food is Well the food in the good that is the number one people travel food

Yes.

Yeah.

And

they like my my boys like to cook.

I do not like to cook, but my boys like to cook and they like to cook together.

So that is a it's an event for them.

It's not just about the food.

So Abe's coming up from Milwaukee.

I'm going to pick Lindsay up from Steven's point tomorrow and it's just going to be just really nice.

That's nice.

All right.

And Selena really quick, who are we going to hear from after the news here?

I'm Sean Bodie.

It is Marissa Bodie's dad.

So he

is Marissa's and Wicked.

There you go.

Okay, so we're going to hear all about that and being in Wicked for Good.

Selena has that and more coming up for us.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely sticks around as well, and then we'll get to know the group Fair Wisconsin coming up at 735.

I'm Pat Crightlow.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

Hey good

morning, it is 7 0 6 and we've made it to Thanksgiving week on Monday morning November 24th.

Nice to have you here up north.

Parker Olson is producing things down in Madison Studio A2.

We are joined as always on Mondays by Dr. Kristin Lierly and by Selena Heller from Up North News.

And also coming up this hour, Abigail Swetz will be joining us from Fair Wisconsin.

talk about the ongoing fight for fairness for members of the LGBTQ community here in our state.

But before we get to that, Selena has been talking to the father of a of an actress that you can see in the wicked movies and, you know, the life circumstances that seem to fit in properly with the role that she's being that she is portraying here as part of that movie.

Selena, that was a nice conversation that you had with.

Is it Sean Bodie?

Sean Bodie, yes.

And the Bodies are from Maiselmanie in Dane County.

And that is where Marissa grew up.

Marissa Bodie plays Nessa Rose, Alphaba's sister.

So pretty great story that she has, the success that she has had.

And she started her local acting career in Meza Mani.

And then even when her accident happened when she was 11, she was on her way to play practice in Madison at the Children's Theater.

And her mom got in a car accident.

They were rear-ended.

And Marisa was paralyzed from the waist down.

Then she went to Los Angeles to still pursue her acting career.

And she is the first person ever to play the character Nessa Rose.

She's actually in a wheelchair.

Nessa Rose, the character in the story is in a wheelchair and she's the first person to actually be in a wheelchair.

And then that's a major milestone for representation in the film industry.

And this

is...

Yeah, it was just a just a really neat story.

I talked to Sean, I think over an hour we chatted.

He told me stories.

Oh my goodness.

The stories he told me was really a fun chat we had.

All right, I'll lead us into our first.

What are we going to hear from

him?

Just kind of little tidbits about kind of the journey, the journey to Wicked.

Let's give a listen.

This is very important to her, to us, but definitely to the people in the world of disabilities.

It's been a journey.

It's been a journey since the day of her accident.

This community has just been behind us.

We're so grateful for them.

We love being part of this community.

We help each other out.

That's what we do.

She called and said, Mom, Dad.

This is crazy.

You're not gonna believe this.

They're making a Barbie doll out of me, and it looks exactly like me.

She just was floored by that.

And then earlier this year, January is when they announced that they're even making a Lego version.

It was just... If there's one good thing about her moving away from Wisconsin to go to a school out in LA...

And spending her money when she could have had a full right scholarship here is the fact that it allowed her to kind of find herself who she was.

Just the joy of experiencing this whole, the whole two years, just seeing this come through fruition.

Watching her, actually watching her on screen and just being blown away.

Glad for her, glad for our community, glad at this moment in life when we need some joy,

we have that.

And of course, you're hearing some music in the background there because this is part of a story that Selena has put together for Up North News, that you can find the full story on our social media feeds here.

But yeah, Selena, you can hear that as one proud papa.

Oh my gosh, so proud.

And he does like short films on the side, you know, so he's really interested.

And then when Marissa goes and auditions for shows, she calls them and they chat and it's just a really great relationship that they have.

And, you know, Maisa Maynit, 1700 people.

So pretty big deal

for

their talent.

And

then he talks about that, you know, they, when the filming was happening, it was, it happened in London.

So his wife went out first and then she watched it for a while.

She came back and then he went to London and watched it.

And so he talked a lot about kind of meeting the stars and how that was.

And, and John Chu, the director showed up.

When Meris got the, learned she got the part, he was on a Zoom call and they were just chatting, but she had no idea she got the part.

And then the two actors who played Alphaba and Glinda Ariana Grande and...

Cindy.

Yes, thank you.

They came in the door holding a sign that said, will you be our Nessa Rose?

Well, this is him talking, Sean talking about when he was in London watching the shooting and the shooting of the movie and how he met Ariana Grande.

I haven't told too many people this, but I'm a former break dancer.

I'm older now.

I break more than I dance.

But they had some two or three hip hoppers off to the side of the entourage.

And I was kind of mimicking them.

When they went for a break around one or two o'clock, I told the choreographer I used to be a break dancer.

And Ariana Grande is off to my left.

And actually, what's funny about that was I came up to see Marissa, talk to Marissa at the break, and Ariana Grande is just kind of looking at me weird.

And Marissa goes, oh, dad.

and she gave me a hug you know it's like oh wow and so I told the choreographer I used to be a great dancer and the choreographer goes oh really we'll show us some moves so I did a couple moves there she gasped and Ariana was like oh like so that was my introduction to Ariana

This is so different.

My dad, the break dancer.

You

know, it's like, you know, the proud papa role is usually played by somebody who's like, yep, I charged up San Juan Hill with Teddy Roosevelt or something, and now I'm a former break dancer.

Break dancer.

I busted some moves.

They're like, whoa.

Breaks more than he dances, he said.

Breaks more than he dances.

I like that.

I like that a lot.

He gets off this energy like your neighbor, like you could just bump into him at the grocery store while you're looking at eggs together.

And then all of a sudden, he would bust out some crazy story about how his daughter is a famous actress in Wicked.

I know.

He's pretty much like

that.

Just chatting with him.

I mean, he was coming up with all of these sorts of stories.

Well,

and Salina, you've been in roughly 2,000 plays, it feels like, around the Chippewa Valley here.

I mean, how does that feel to hear that kind of energy from somebody who chased that all the way to Hollywood?

Oh my gosh, it was so neat.

I mean, we talked for so long, but I said, I could sit and listen to you all night, because it was just so interesting and her path there, it was, it was really interesting.

I enjoyed chatting with him a

lot.

Of course, you mentioned Maisel Mani.

So I have to be the obligatory family tie that singer Skyler Gray is also from the Maisel Mani area.

And she's a Kraitlo, her mom, Candace Kraitlo still lives and performs in that area.

So Maisel Mani.

Hot bed of talent.

who knew, right?

All right.

So our question of the day that we talked about earlier 855-75 Civic 855-752-4842 is how far are you traveling for Thanksgiving?

And if it's not very far, then you know, what is the plan?

For example, Walt puts up, I am going 0.0 kilometers or miles or feet.

I am hosting 22 people and one rescue dog from both families and only one

coffee pot.

Oh my gosh.

I need more coffee.

You're definitely going to need

more

coffee on this.

Let's see.

Alicia says I also asked how far away your guests coming and she said the farthest is the kiddo coming from Houghton, Michigan.

and she writes the keys to make it through Thanksgiving week.

I said, hey, you made it to Thanksgiving week.

Now the key is to make it through Thanksgiving week here.

Robin Tigerton says, good morning from Tigerton.

It's partly cloudy, 32 degrees over the weekend.

I got my snow blower going and ready for the winter.

I watched the Packer victory and had a great pizza at Yeager bombs in Tigerton.

Still the ultimate name for.

And he says, thanksgiving.

I'm traveling to Caroline to have thanksgiving with my sister Lori at her house.

So there you go.

So there's Rob.

85575 Civic 8557524842.

Kristen, you had the Vikings in town to play the Packers.

I did not see any photos from you at the game this time.

Oh, I'm gee, I was there.

I was 100% there, yes.

At the beginning of the game, I actually put it out.

I did put a video out, but it wasn't my video.

But yeah, it was the defense over in the end zone doing the Skull Cheer, which I so loved.

Did you see that?

No, because

I heard the whole game on the radio, so I saw some kind of reference this morning on social media, but I hadn't looked at it yet.

So they were all doing, were they mocking the Skull?

They absolutely were in the most glorious way, and the people in the end zone, the people were in green and gold in the end zone, were responding, and it was just like, it was perfection.

Oh, now I gotta

look this up.

That's wonderful.

I don't understand the origin of the skull thing, because again, you know, I grew

up in Minnesota.

It's a soccer thing.

It's a European soccer thing.

They

stole it.

We, you know, we moved out of the country for three years, 2014, 15, 16.

We came back in 17 and we watched very little, we watched the occasional Packers game, but that was it.

And I started to see this thing that they were doing at the new US Bank Stadium.

And I thought, was that like an overnight thing?

Did they like teach all the Vikings fans in one off season?

Or did this just slowly build?

I have no idea what the origin of it is.

And I say that because I don't like it.

I'd be like, this is goofy.

Oh,

I think it's awesome as a as a fan person.

No, no, like if you take the team out of it, it's if you ever go to a game at US Bank Stadium and the fans are excited.

Usually at the beginning of the game before it starts, there's fire and the team is running out and everybody is yelling Skoll and it is it is intimidating.

And then the team starts to play and kind of winds down.

I was going to say,

yeah, school from the from the from the Norwegian choke.

Yeah.

They didn't tell them that when it got started.

Look at this.

Rob coming off the top rope here.

Highway 29 was wet after the Packer game from the tears of the Vikings hands.

I went back to him and he was like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

oh, oh, oh,

oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

in the second half of the game, totaled four yards, four net yards and three turnovers.

A defensive gem as the Packers beat the Vikings 23 to six.

You're going

to say it took advantage, took advantage of JJ McCarthy.

Nine nine was on the field yesterday and one happening.

No, didn't this guy like have all this great potential when he first got started?

No, no, no, no.

I

don't understand why

people.

No, he didn't.

No, he didn't.

Out of college?

Really?

He played for a team that cheated to win a national title and he was in a system that completely benefited a bat.

He

looked good on

paper.

Parker is having none of this.

I don't like him.

I don't like him one bit.

Oh, that's great.

Well, this is what's called a consequence.

This is what's happening right now to the Vikings.

Yes.

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Roger on the text line and Stevens Point said, I noticed the game was over by 2.45.

Quick moving game.

I heard Wayne and Larry talk about that as well, that the game seemed to be flying by.

So the game, I wasn't noticing.

The game really did end at 2.45.

Was it that early?

That really

is

something.

It went super fast.

And it just didn't seem like the fans kind of, yeah, I love the fans, but they seemed a little subdued from the very beginning.

And there were a couple of big moments clearly, but we were winning so convincingly that there was no, we rarely chant and go pack go.

There was no wave.

Like the things that you, the shenanigans you typically see, we didn't really see a lot

of.

And it wasn't because people were, like, frozen because it wasn't even that cold.

Yeah.

Nope.

No, I think we were just subdued.

Maybe they got it

all.

They get it all out of their system the day before watching the Badgers beat up on Brett Bielema and Illinois.

Oh,

my God.

That was so amazing.

Yes.

Beating a ranked team 24 to 10.

I mean, let's not go crazy here.

The Badger football team is still four and seven and two and six in the big 10.

But you never go wrong beating a ranked team.

You never go wrong beating up on Brett Bieloa.

And you know what's coming up this weekend.

And coming up this weekend will be the Badgers taking on the Minnesota Golden Gophers.

Saturday coverage begins at 12.30

on several

civic media stations.

And Dr. Lyrely, former Gopher mascot, will be in attendance, right?

Yeah, that's my plan.

But you never know what's going to happen with this game because I think the gophers need this game to go to a ball.

And the Badgers... The Badgers do

not.