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Hey, well, hey there, Wisconsin.
Good morning.
It is 6.06 on a Friday morning, November 21st.
It's another beautiful morning to have you here.
Not physically up north, but always in an up north frame of mind.
from wherever you're spending your mornings listening across the civic media radio network or listening or watching on all the other platforms.
Thanks for starting the day right here.
I've got a question for you.
Where's the best fish fry in your hometown?
We're going to be asking that throughout the course of the day.
I know most people like, well, wait, is it, is it lent?
That's when we always talk about fish fries, right?
But no, in this case, it's just part of our local's love section in our Up North News daily newsletter.
And, you know, so Ellie Bordeaux, our newsletter editor in the past has said, you know, give us your favorite pizza joint, burger joint, you know, ice cream shop, I think it was last week.
And this week she's asking about fish fries.
So so are we.
So we're just asking, where's a really good fish fry?
in your hometown.
We've got a few of those ideas that have already popped in.
Ellie put some in this morning's newsletter.
You can sign up for it over at upnorthnewswi.com.
We would love to have you tell us more about where you get yourself a good fish fry dinner.
Folks watching on civic media, I'm sorry, folks watching on social media, civic media, social media, video.
Parker Olson's right here in the room with me.
You can't tell, but I was about to say,
people watching on Facebook or YouTube going, oh, wait, you look like you're in Lake Wissota.
No, that's just a photo background because folks who've listened know that here in Madison Studio A2, the wall behind me looks much like a place where people are lined up and shot.
So we decided to go for something a bit more virtual today.
Mr. Olsen, how are you?
I'm worried you're going to get shot.
No.
I didn't know
that was on the
table.
It's just this plain blank wall.
No journalism instructor, Henry Lippold, always warned us against taking execution photos, meaning don't line up people against a wall and shoot them with the camera.
Actually put some scenery there.
So there's a little liquid soda behind me, though, down here in Madison, just on my way to run some errands for the weekend here.
So it's nice to be here.
Nice to see Parker.
in person and get things rolling on a Friday here.
And in fact, I mean, you know, the routine for Friday, we're going to have Courier Newsrooms, Keva Keel in here to talk about stories of the week.
We're going to have journalist Mark Jacob.
We're going to have former U.S.
Attorney Jim Santel, who probably has some thoughts on the new U.S.
Attorney for the Eastern District of Wisconsin, Brad Schimmel.
And we'll talk about that.
Dr. Kristen Lierly will be here, but Mike Clemens, Mike Clemens sounded, I mean,
Mike knows we love him.
So when I say death warmed over, you know that we, we mean it lovingly.
I was going to say a little weathered,
but yeah, yeah, something like that.
So anyway, so he's, he's off here.
Uh, let's see.
We've, so we've got all the usuals, but I kind of want to just jump right into things here because Tom and Hartford's already on the text line telling us Glenda's near Lake Okeechee has a good fish fry also homemade award winning pies.
So there you go.
We're getting fish fries and pies today.
That's a
good combination.
Yeah, that all works.
Let's see from Alicia.
Wait.
Am I farther up north than you are today?
Yes.
Yes, Alicia, you are the one up north.
Tony has hoop stock side in Bayfield is probably the best in the state.
Whoa.
Oh.
Strong words here.
Okay.
Talking big game.
Hoop stock side in Bayfield.
All right.
And Alicia says, I love Tanners in Kimberly for a fish fry.
So that all works.
And then I believe, do we have Cindy in Appleton joining us here?
you on the phone this morning?
I am.
Hey, Cindy.
Good morning.
How are you?
Good.
Thanks.
How are you?
I'm great.
Thanks.
It's nice to make it to Friday.
And it's nice to be talking about dinner already at six 10 in the morning.
You want to tell me where you go for a good fish fry?
Then Abels of Holland town, one of the best in the state.
They also have great steaks and a great chicken dinner on Sunday night.
That's in Holland town.
What's the name of it again?
Then Abels.
All right.
God, I like that.
So what is it that makes it a good fish fry?
Cause we're going to be asking that question as well.
Is it the type of fish or what, what is it about it that makes it so good?
Well, to me, it's usually the breading and the deep frying of it because sometimes they get too dried out.
I like them when they're nice and, and still moist.
And there's not a lot of breading.
And of course, tartar sauce to me is what makes the fish.
And the novel says a good tartar sauce.
So
yeah, you got to love the ones that are.
the homemade stuff, not the stuff that falls off the back of the Cisco truck, you know, at every restaurant.
So yeah, anything that makes it homemade.
Cindy, thank you very much for checking in.
Have a wonderful weekend.
You
too, thanks, Mike.
All right, good to see you.
Good to hear from you rather, 855-75CIVIC, 855-7524842.
So now that you've had some time to think about this, I mean, is the UW Whitewater community known for a good,
Good fish fry someplace.
Oh gosh.
I mean, I'm not a big fish fry guy.
So that's right.
You were saying you remember April on April fools and somebody tried to pull off the fish fry ice cream.
I wasn't here yet.
Were you not here in April?
Oh, okay.
I
just
figured since you weren't a fish guy, maybe you'd go for fish fry ice cream.
But
that sounds it was disgusting.
It sounds it
does.
Yeah.
It does.
Yeah.
Okay.
So not another fish guy.
All right.
Well, as it just so happens, a good friend of mine, Jim Zanz, started a Facebook group years ago called Wisconsin Fish Fry Fandom.
And it is just a page dedicated for people to, you know, write in.
places to get a good fish fry and maybe put up some photos.
And Jim lives on, I don't know if it's Lake Minoman or just the Red Cedar River, but anyway, all the time he is posting photos of the walleye that he's catching.
And he knows fish fry.
So we're gonna have him in later this hour after today's history lesson and talk a bit about what makes a good fish fry and where he has found some of the best ones in the state.
Alicia, fish fry, ice cream sounds traumatic.
Yes.
Yeah, totally get it.
Let's see, Tony, not a fish fry guy, no coffee, water always.
It's so hard to relate to Parker.
Well, he is a, he isn't a Renaissance man that way.
You got your quick trip, your cup of your brewer's mug that we got from the game.
Yeah.
Roger puts on Facebook, EML in Roselleville has a great fish fry.
That's good to know.
Uh, as far as, oh, when, when Tony said that hoop stock side in Bayfield is probably the best, he, he did a follow-up message.
Just ask Fred Clark.
He gets it.
Oh, there you go.
So if it's endorsed by Fred Clark, I mean, candidate for Congress up there in the seventh congressional district.
By the way, I didn't have time to look this up yet, but speaking of the seventh district and the former member of Congress, Sean Duffy.
I heard a story on the drive in here today in Madison that there, it started out well.
There was like some new public service announcement that's all about civility in the airlines and how, you know, once upon a time people actually, you know, put on a suit and tie or, you know, dressed up to fly.
Flying was like a big, fancy deal.
And
Then it from from what I could tell it shows clips of people fighting on airplanes people being rude on airplanes and it's all about how you know your manners don't end at the gate and How how much did I spout off yesterday about manners and etiquette and things like that?
And that would be be fine if it had just stopped right there, but apparently the secretary of transportation one Sean Duffy went on to
criticize people just can't criticize people for the way they dress when they get on airplanes and how we ought to dress up again.
And you shouldn't be getting on a plane in your pajamas.
Now look, even if you think that it's one thing for a schlep like me to say that on the radio for the U S transportation secretary to say, you guys look terrible.
When you get on the airplane, you're just inviting every passenger to go, who the hell are you?
Sean Duffy, guy that dances in his underwear on TV as a reality star to criticize how we dress.
When people get into their sweats to fly, especially when you got to get to the airport at 3 30 in the morning to get a flight out because of the TSA lines and everything else, I'm not putting the tuxedo on.
I'm sorry.
I'm not, and I've got some nice suits, but I'm not dressing up for you, Sean Duffy.
Nobody should.
We're flying.
The behavior part, spot on.
Love it.
Can't say it enough.
Fashion police?
No, Sean.
That's a state of your lane.
That's a weird hill.
Weird hill to get on.
It really is, yep.
Tony would like to make clear he is not putting words in Fred Clark's mouth.
He just believes that they would agree on fish fries.
Let's see from Walt.
Maple Tree Supper Club in McFarland, 20 to 30 people lined up to enter by 3.30 for their four o'clock opening.
Beer and lightly battered is tops along with their salad bar.
I got to write all these down.
This is so good.
I mean, that's not that far from here, Pat.
No, it's not.
You can hit that up on your way back.
Yeah.
It reminds me of what I said the other day about the Eshnalla Supper Club in Wisconsin Dells, how, you know, like an hour before it opens, there's 40, 50 people waiting in line for that.
And we get none of that up north.
We get next to none of that.
Really?
No.
I mean, well, here's the thing.
If there is a wait, you don't wait in line, you go to the bar.
You know, now this is, I know, well, let's talk about that.
They haven't even opened yet, but I don't know that I've seen a place with a line.
up north before they even open.
You know, at some point you just come in because there's plenty of bar stools and you have your old fashion and I'm so tempted to play the Jason Kelsey thing again.
I had seven spotted cows and then another old fashion, which I mean, you know, in Chippewa County that's Saturday night.
You know, that's just how we roll.
Little prime rib, some chicken wings.
There's your Jason Kelsey special.
And yet, despite being as large as a football player, I do not play football.
It's just simply the chicken wings on the fried fish that did it.
Anyway, so we love these recommendations that are coming in and let's see, I want to make sure I don't miss any.
Oh, here's Jim from Brookfield.
And Jim, thank you for the nice note earlier.
I will respond to that one.
He says, the red mill in Brookfield has an excellent fish fry.
The red mill is a traditional supper club going back to the late fifties right in the middle of suburban Brookfield.
Back in the early days, Eddie Matthews and some of the Milwaukee Braves would stop in.
Oh, cool.
That's outstanding, which gets to this when he talks about it being right in the middle of the suburb of Brookfield.
Again, once upon a time, Brookfield was like way out of town, you know, when everybody lived in Milwaukee, when the suburbs hadn't begun creeping, you know, farther and farther out that way.
So it's nice to still see the few supper clubs that are left.
I mean, the ones that are in cities and things, they're not around as much as they used to be.
Eau Claire used to have a couple of nice ones right in town.
There was staff knees.
There was Austin's White House.
You know what, in a related note, while I'm mentioning those, if you want to RIP like some great supper club or restaurant that's not around anymore, and I should probably save it for a separate day.
But if it was a place that had a good fish fry, you can throw that out there too.
We can remember the places that had them in the past.
Anyway, my point about supper clubs is this, our new executive producer, Frank, and we'll hear from him later on with his weekly quiz here.
Um, among others, it's like, what exactly defines a supper club?
And the answer might surprise some people, but I always say it's the relish tray.
You know, you get this thing with pickled herring, carrot sticks, breadsticks, maybe some radishes on there.
You're not getting that anyplace else.
And it just, it underscores the family style aspect of this, that you've got your old fashions and then you got your relish plate, you might get a basket of bread and then you're gonna get your cheese curds maybe that come in.
So it's not a seven course fancy restaurant, but things are gonna come in waves and then eventually the broasted chicken or the ribs or the fish fry.
And I mean, it is just,
and experience.
And it's an experience unlike anything else.
And I wouldn't trade any of it for the world.
All right, we'll talk more about your favorite fish fry places, 855-755-CIVIC, 855-752-4842.
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We're going to talk about the week's headlines with Courier Newsroom's Kia Vakil coming up in just a sec.
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to have you back on this Friday morning, heading into the weekend with Currier Newsroom's national political editor, Kia Vakil, who's back in his home stomping grounds in the Philadelphia area.
How are you, Kia?
Good.
Good.
It seems to me the things that need to be reviewed when you look back at this week will of course be the
the big flip flop by Trump and the Republicans in Congress on the Epstein files and Donald Trump's ability to try to convince people this is not the recession you're looking for.
Who's he selling this to?
Yeah, I mean, I don't know that anyone outside of like, you know, the very wealthy can look at the economy and say it's working for them.
You know,
the stock market's done well all year, but that's been driven by, you know, five AI companies in a trench coat.
It's not a real, like most companies are not showing gains.
I believe it's like 80% or not, if I remember correctly.
And now we're even starting to see the stock market kind of shake a little bit.
But yeah, you have job hiring slowing, you have loan delinquency payments or loan payments, delinquency rising,
Every under the hood sign is blinking red right now and has been for quite a few months.
And Trump, a lot of that, not all of it, but a lot of it has to do with Trump's tariffs, which are obviously inflationary.
And the rest of it has to do with a lot of...
bigger problems in this country that he's done exactly zero to solve.
And now we're going to send healthcare costs skyrocketing in January, which will certainly make the problem much, much worse.
And we have a president who is grifting in every possible way there is to grift and is so cartoonishly corrupt that there aren't even words for it anymore.
So yeah, that's sort of the state of play economically.
Yeah, well, look, we did finally get the numbers for September, and they showed a rather weak 119,000 jobs.
And if I saw it correctly, they're basically not even going to pretend to do an October report, which I guess makes sense when you talk about a group that promised more transparency, but they fired the last person who gave bad numbers.
maybe you just
don't put out any numbers at all it seems if you don't want what's the old saying in medicine if you don't want to find a fever don't take the temperature
yeah i mean the problem with that is is there's a lot of private uh reports and numbers out there and so obviously they're not as reliable as what the government puts out but i also don't know that you could say the trump administration like that you i fully trust the job administration so on what they put out so also it's we saw the biden and you know administration try to
Convince people that their daily material reality wasn't what they felt it was and so I don't think that's really an effective way to govern this country to like Pretend like there aren't problems and tell people they're crazy, which is essentially Trump's plan You see him get really angry at reporters.
You see him complain about people complaining about the economy It's the same mistake the Biden team did which is they they did not take it seriously until it was too late And I mean Trump's obviously a bit of a lame duck, but
Um, it's not a great sign for Republicans that he can't admit that there are problems in the economy.
No, I mean, it took this long to admit that, you know, the public was not going to let the the Epstein files thing go.
And so last weekend, you know, he did this abrupt flip flop and pretty much every Republican fell into line on that vote.
So now he has signed the bill.
So when I say, what do we look for next?
It seems to me the only two options are some kind of a mass dump.
of information to try to just you know flood the zone as they say or you try the next brick wall where you put out a bunch of heavily redacted stuff and you say well you know we've got that new investigation going on and with an ongoing investigation we can't really tell you anything if you were gonna do you think either one of those is the more likely scenario?
Obviously, we have the sham investigation that Trump has DOJ to launch into some of the Democratic affiliated names and the emails that were released.
And I tend to think that's just a way to prevent the actual release of these files.
Because if there's an ongoing investigation, DOJ can not release some of these files.
And so that's my theory that they're either going to just
like slow walk it till it dies or try to.
I don't think that'll be effective.
This is a this is a the Epstein files has been a thing in our culture for six years now.
And so it has legs.
But yeah, I mean, look, I could be wrong.
Maybe they'll actually release them all.
But at every step of the way, Trump has acted so shady.
that I tend to think he's trying to somehow get ahead of this now and try a different strategy than just objecting.
And, you know, maybe shift blame to DOJ somehow.
And then last thing I want to get on is is Robert Kennedy Jr.'
's Department of Health and Human Services and some new language.
Well, briefly.
And here's the reason why.
Yeah, they've changed some of the language about vaccines on the website.
And
You know, tell me if I'm dreaming this, but I do believe that Senator Bill Cassidy, Republican of Louisiana, you know, said he was only voting to confirm Robert Kennedy Jr.
after he promised not to change language on the website about vaccines and autism.
So my question for you, Kia, is does Senator Cassidy now call for Robert Kennedy Jr.'
's removal or does he just look like one more person who got played by somebody in a fellow Republicans administration?
I think Cassidy knew exactly what he was doing.
He put on a show for the press to pretend like he still has credibility as a doctor.
But you don't confirm RFK without knowing who RFK is.
There was an abundance of evidence before he voted of who this man is and what he would do and what he believed.
That is all borne out.
It's been worse than we expected, but not by that much.
We all knew who RFK was in the press.
Bill Cassidy, a doctor certainly should have known and did know.
So I think that's BS.
I don't think he's going to call on him nor resign.
I think Bill Cassidy fears a primary firm is right more than a general election.
And I think it's all a show.
And by the way, if you happen to notice a fruit basket in his office, chances are it was sent by Susan Collins with a note saying, I too am concerned that something's happening.
They're concerned and troubled.
Concerned and troubled though heaven forbid I do anything about it.
Courier Newsroom's Keef Akeel.
Thanks as always for the end of the week update.
Appreciate it.
Have a good weekend.
It's time once again for today's history lesson on mornings with Pat Cranklow.
To all who come to this happy place, welcome.
Ladies
and gentlemen,
the Beatles.
That's one small step for man.
Well, I'm
not a
crook.
You
You know, this depression is gonna be so great.
We'll be the ones eating the cats and the dogs.
That's gonna be fun.
Once again, it is time to take another revealing peek back into history.
All right, let's get today's history lesson rolling with the number one song from this day in 1961.
It was by Maurice Williams and the Zodiacs.
I know you've probably heard the Jackson Brown version later on, but it was the number one song this day, 64 years ago, and it was still the shortest ever number one song.
This record ran one minute and 37 seconds.
It was every disc jockey's dream.
who had to back time their music block to the top of the hour news.
You loved those things back in the day.
Hey, look, it's Friday.
We are joined once again on our history lesson on Fridays as always by Greg War, Iljanovic, Baktoberfest.
Mr. Bach, hello.
Good morning.
Happy Friday.
Happy Friday to you, Patrick.
Crite low.
It's
Friday.
It's the end of the week.
It's fine.
How are you?
Good
morning,
gentlemen.
Yeah, good
morning.
You know, before we get too deep in this, we're going to talk more in our next segment about Friday fish fries.
It's our question of the day, but I don't want to forget if anybody you want to give a particular shout out to when you got to have a fish fry.
Oh my gosh.
Probably two specific ones.
Ron's Cozy Corner.
in the Milwaukee, southeastern Wisconsin area.
And of course, my baby Lakefront Brewery.
Oh, of course.
Okay.
It's a wonderful, wonderful fish fry, but there's lots of selections, especially around where I live.
But yes, those two are, those stick out.
So many.
And, oh, Maurice Williams is done singing.
I guess, I guess we got to move on.
That's problem with those short records.
All right.
Well, we'll move up to 1970.
This was the number one song in the land.
Everybody over a certain age.
is starting to sing and embarrassing their children.
Everyone who is an older brother when this came out is like, this song is fine.
It's a good song.
I wouldn't buy the
record.
Clearly enough people did with the Partridge family.
It might have had something to do with Susan Day being one of the characters on there, but anyway, I think I love you by the Partridge family.
I
think
it has less to do with her than more about the guy singing the song.
I don't know.
You had fans of all genders there.
You also had others were looking at Mrs. Partridge, Shirley Jones over there and going, hey, how are you doing?
Single mom.
Around that same time that the Partridge family was airing, there was that girl on TV and actress Marlo Thomas in the lead role.
She's been married to Phil Donahue for a long, long time now and she is 88 years old today.
And while you're feeling old about things from the late 60s, Goldie Hawn from Laugh In and actress in many other movies since then.
Goldie Hawn is 80 years old today.
Academy Award winning Goldie Haas.
Yes.
Yeah.
Take nothing away from her and Kate Hudson's mom for those folks who haven't made that connection yet.
And then singer Bjork is 60 years old today.
I don't know anything else about Bjork except that one weird swan dress.
That's all I know.
You should just look up Google when you have a chance.
This is perfectly like family friendly too.
It's nothing.
Look up Bjork explains the television.
New York enjoys a television.
All right.
Yep.
And then that one away.
It's just a little different.
I was talking like this about the television.
Oh, God.
All right.
Now I'm intrigued.
All right,
then.
I do hate to do this to everybody.
I apologize now, but it is Friday.
It's kind of a good Friday tune, kind of.
And it's on the birthday list.
So I'm obligated to tell you that Carly Ray Jepsen turns 40
Is Greg doing the robot?
I thought he was going into a little 6-7 dance there or something.
Oh, boy.
there's your earworm for the day, everybody.
You thought you'd gotten rid of it.
You cannot control or delete the song once it gets in your head.
It's
a solid track, good for dance, and great for weddings or just events.
Yeah, it's only sin was being grossly overplayed at the time.
Yes, it screams 20.
12.
Yes.
So look at Parker being an old man.
Oh, that's so long ago.
That's so me middle school.
On this day at 1877, Thomas Edison announces his invention of the phonograph, a machine that can play a record and you can hear sound coming out of the machine.
What kind of wonders of technology would result from that?
He says, let's hook this up to an elephant,
see if it kills
it.
That was a different story.
Different story, not the phonograph.
No, same
guy.
Just the same guy.
Oh, I know.
I
know.
Oh, god.
Tommy, what are we doing?
On this day in 1980, Steely Dan released their seventh studio album.
No, not Groucho for Marx.
It was called Goucho.
And here's one of the singles.
Gouch also included Hay 19, Babylon Sisters, and more.
Steely Dan released it 45 years ago today.
On this day, 30 years ago today, Billy Joe Armstrong of Green Day was busted for dropping his pants and mooning the audience at a concert in Milwaukee.
He would pay a fine of $141 and didn't come back to Milwaukee for many, many years, but.
I saw them in Milwaukee one year and they were, it was an amazing show.
It was an amazing show.
Oh, I don't doubt
that for a minute.
Why does this always happen in Milwaukee?
Didn't George Carlin get fined for a week?
No, he
got
arrested at Summerfest for
for doing stand up in 1974.
I think it was, but I'm sure someone on the live stream will correct me.
Yeah, he did his seven joke or seven words.
You can't say on the air.
He did that in public outdoors at Summerfest and got pulled and got.
drag to jail.
There's a picture of it.
You can Google that next to York explains television.
George Carlin arrest Milwaukee.
There you
go.
So if you, if you say the seven dirty words while doing the big gig, you could end up in the big house.
So there you go.
Greg is going to say them now.
All right.
Number one, number one song this day at 1981 was by Olivia Newton, John.
Is anybody worn any leg warmers lately?
Anybody?
Nope.
Again, a song that was maybe overplayed a little bit at the time.
Was it?
Oh,
yes.
I don't know.
Oh yeah, this song was overplayed Parker.
But she was one of the biggest acts on the planet
in the
early 80s.
Yes.
They gave her a movie and they were like, oh, this is a bad idea.
I
live
in New York.
George
Carlin was arrested in 1972.
I knew it was 72, but I doubted myself.
Okay.
I gotta go with your gut, man.
Anyway, Physical was the number one song for 10 weeks, making it the biggest hit of 1981.
The original Rocky movie premiered in New York City on this date in 1976.
So next year will be the 50th anniversary of Rocky.
That's crazy.
And guess what we're gonna get?
What?
a movie about how they made the movie Rocky.
Yeah.
Of
course we are.
Good prediction.
Oh, man.
Let's see.
Up to 1987, it was actually a remake and oldie by Billy Idol.
That was the number one song.
Now the interesting thing about this is that Billy Idle's Moni Moni replaced Tiffany's, I think we're alone now at number one on the chart this week in 1987.
Both of those songs were originally done by, do you remember Greg Bach?
Moni Moni and I think we're, Tommy James and the Chandels.
Yes.
Very good.
You get a gold star.
Yeah.
I
listened to the radio in the 80s.
Yay.
And if you were listening in 1990, every so often a sappy love song would come on and take the top of the charts.
And in 1990, 35 years ago today, the new number one song was by James Ingram.
I sense Greg has thoughts.
James Ingram only made powerful love songs.
He had so much emotion to give to the world.
He did.
I
really liked his voice.
Yes.
Let's see.
Tony's telling us, we went through a box of my dad's old stuff at my grandma's house, and it was so many Olivia Newton-John records.
And
it was all just physical.
Bunch of copies of physical.
Very surprised you listened to anything but country.
Although Olivia Newton-John did start with a little country in her.
She won.
She won.
Best country artist.
That's
right.
When she debuted in America, she was a country artist in what's called country politics, which was a more washed out version of the Nashville sound, which you guys got in a couple of hours.
I can talk about that.
We got three of them.
I just remembered Nashville was their hair was on fire This woman from Australia is the best country singer of the year the sacrilege Somehow Nashville lived on on this day in 1992 Adam Sandler sang the Thanksgiving song on Saturday Night Live for the first time I'm sure that'll be played next week a few times in the year 2000 25 years ago
The number one single was by Destiny's Child
We have got to get a disco ball for the studio and Racine there at Radio Park.
He is
dancing a lot.
Just for Greg on Fridays.
Love Destiny's Child.
Love Destiny's
Child.
This was from the Charlie's Angels movie reboot with Lucy Liu, Cameron Diaz, and Drew Barrymore.
Lucy Liu the who?
No, not Cindy Liu who.
Oh, Cindy
Liu.
Lucy Liu.
Just a great campy movie.
I don't know that the sequels after that were that great, but
I really did like the first one.
I don't know, Greg.
Maybe you didn't see it.
He's pleading not guilty.
I don't know anything about
what you said.
I
have no idea.
On the national day calendar today, Parker.
It is Gingerbread Cookie Day.
It seems very early.
Gingerbread Cookie Day.
Are we a gingerbread cookie fan down there, Mr. Buck?
Yeah, maybe like a like one, but I can't overdo that stuff.
It just gets to be it's now.
Thank you.
That's fair.
I'll enjoy one for the holidays.
One of my daughters makes kind of a gingerbread molasses.
I don't know if the ginger snaps.
Maybe they're called, but oh my goodness.
They're just addicting.
I hope she's making those this weekend.
I'm heading out to see her from here.
So if you're listening, dear, fire up the oven.
What else we got for today?
It is also
National Stuffing Day.
National Stuffing Day.
Oh, that's a topic.
It is,
isn't it?
That's a topic.
That really is a topic.
Okay, well, good.
You got a little time, Greg.
Stuffing, go.
Huge fan, don't ever put cranberries in my stuffing.
Don't make it sweet.
I don't want anything sweet in my stuffing.
And water chestnuts, what are you doing in there?
You're not, you're not, stop it.
Just stop it.
Just stop it.
A good spicy sausage in there, very nice.
Oh
yes.
add andouille sausage or, yeah, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Yes, yes.
good thoughts on
it.
And you pack it together and you make a turkey sandwich with it.
That's if you're feeling real weird,
you know, then there's yeah the people that are making like leftover turkeys Thanksgiving leftover like pizzas or what is it?
They're doing all
kinds
of weird things with the leftovers.
Oh, you put it you mix it all together You put it in like a waffle iron and you make something
out of
that.
Yeah,
something you
can do
people just getting out it's getting out of hand here Alright, our question of the day here is where's a great fish fry?
in your hometown.
And I got an expert.
Jim Zanz, who does the Facebook page Fish Fry Fandom, is going to join us to talk all about that as well.
And of course, we'll take your input at 855-757-855-752-4842.
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6.52 on this Friday morning.
Parker Olson is down here in Madison.
I'm in Madison 2, Studio A2.
Greg Bach is over at Radio Park in Racine.
You can hear him for a matinee on air along with Jane Matinee, coming up from 9 to 11 today on the Civic Media Radio Network.
And we're joined in this segment by my friend Jim Zanz, who has a Facebook page.
He and about a million other people who love a good fish fry called Wisconsin Friday Fish Fry Fandom.
Again, Wisconsin Friday Fish Fry fandom all about the goodness that is the Wisconsin Fish Fry.
Mr. Zanz, how are
you?
It's unusual being up this early in the morning, but I'll always get up early to talk about fish.
Because you are on Tainter Lake?
Yeah, Tainter Lake, north of Menominee.
And Jim and I go way back to college, and now he lives out there.
If you're familiar with the area, he's the guy with the caboose in the front yard.
He was living the dream of a lot of us.
He actually did purchase an old caboose, and it's his office space in there, which we're jealous of, what, about eight months out of the year?
Yeah.
Not winter so much, you
know?
Well, it's it actually can get pretty toasty in there with the proper amount of oil filled radiator.
There
you go.
So and Jim loves to go fishing.
He's posting all the time from his his walleye catches, making us a little bit crazy.
But it's
this is the perfect time of year.
This is when the walleye come in shallow at night and there's nothing nothing like fishing out when it's pitch black outside and all you can hear are geese and
and coyotes and owls, and then
you catch fish.
And many of them, and it turns out you're a fish fry aficionado as well.
How did that, is the page something that you helped creator, you just are one of their biggest promoters?
No, I created it because I thought it'd be a good idea because people would always ask me where do you go for a fish fry when you're out in Wisconsin and so I thought I'd create it and then I was kind of shocked that it Seemed to get follower after follower and now there's over 2,000 people that are are following it night I there's a lot of restaurants that post to it, but I really try to encourage people that share your own
pictures.
When you go out, people want to, you know, don't, you know, bash places, but be honest about what was good about what you had and where you went and why it was good or what didn't quite hit the mark.
And Greg and Parker, the nice thing about this, of pages like this, that, I mean, the dumpster fire that is social media, by and large, you get these pages and people just want to put good stuff on there, Greg, that people actually want to share where to go to get a good meal.
Yeah, I mean that's kind of weird like and it's got it's it's It's both refreshing and then you have to sit there and go.
Oh, this is a nice page.
This is nice
I
don't have to be the snarkiest one in the room.
This feels so wonderful
Well, that's just it when somebody does put a snarky comment up on a page like that.
You're like, dude, what are you doing?
Get out of here.
This isn't where that is so Well, okay, Jim
I mean, it'd be like asking you to pick your favorite child.
And I know which one is, but, um, you know, all the fish fries, I mean, I don't even know how you begin.
Do you, do you tend to recommend something close to home or is there a place that if you could, you would drive that a hundred miles, you know, more often to get it.
What's, what comes to mind when I say, tell somebody the best of the best.
Well, there, there's a couple that are, I mean, there are some that are local, like here in my backyard.
I really love Jake supper club just does a good job.
and and you know when we were setting up for this you kind of asked me what what makes a good fish fry right and there's a there's a lot of choices and I'd say here in Wisconsin it's it's almost always cod you do have a lake trout lake trout and then of course there's smelt you know early in the year too but and if there are a lot there's lots of bad cod out there yes so
When places do a good job with cod, you really got to say, OK, you made cod really good and flavorful.
Jake Supper Club, Northman Omni here on Tainter Lake does a great job with their cod and their side.
And it's really reasonable and cheers.
You know, they're kind of like a cheers place.
You walk in, even if you don't know somebody, you're going to know somebody by the end of the day or end of the evening if you sit at the bar.
So that's a great one.
Yeah.
So.
And then if you want to get off the beaten path, one of my absolute favorites is Sportsman's Bar in Ridgeland has walleye.
They have their own homemade cheesy potatoes that are to die for.
In fact, get there early because they run out of the cheesy potatoes every time and they do their own homemade coleslaw that is extra creamy and rich, not as vinegary, which is kind of
It's what I like is the the creamier stuff.
So and then you mentioned like a place that I would drive like an hour and a half to two hours to and that's the Monarch Public House in Fountain City on the Mississippi River because It's not just the food.
It's also just the
the atmosphere and the the proprietor and John Harrington runs the Monarch Public House in Fountain City and that's been I think that's been a business since the building was built in the 1800s so you can you get a lot of history when you go in there he makes the some of the best muddled
old fashions that you'll ever have.
And then he does walleye as his fish there.
And John can tell you all sorts of fun stories about the river, about the history of the area.
That, that one is really worth the drive.
I got to ask you though, from a walleye
standpoint, I'm, it is so good, but I'm so hesitant because there's, you know, it can be rather bony.
And yet I've also read it's possible to do walleye and have it not be bony, but, you know, you, you got to know just how to do it.
You catch a lot of walleye is, is there in fact a trick tutors or small bones, just the risky take?
No, walleye is easy.
You think you're thinking of Northern Pike.
Northern Pike is the bony one where you have to get around the Y bone to get around it.
And I love Northern Pike.
I don't think I've ever seen it on a fish fry menu because it is so difficult to clean.
But this is where YouTube can be your friend again with like social media because I found some great videos on how to perfectly clean a Northern Pike.
I've done it.
I see.
It can't be.
See, Greg, that's what we're going to do maybe next Friday.
We'll just set up, lay out a bunch of fish in our respective studios and we'll work on this.
Boy,
can't wait to
reschedule that one.
Yeah.
Our coworkers will love that.
Look for Wisconsin Friday Fish Fry fandom on Facebook.
Jim Zahn, thanks so much.
Good to catch up with you.
Greg, thank you as well.
Have a great start to the weekend.
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