
Yes.
That's what I said.
Have fun with it.
And she did.
So anyway, as she said, yes, we're down in Madison today, getting an early start on the weekend here.
It'll be especially early for me.
I know some of you have like eight hours to go before this is.
all said and done, but it's the final hour for us for the work week here.
Kristen, joining us, we're gonna talk a little news.
And then later, Mike Clemens will not be in as usual on Fridays.
I don't know if you heard him the other day, Kristen, as a doctor, do you sometimes hear people and you hear their voice and you just wanna go, oh, go back to bed.
Here's a cough drop, you know.
Yes,
Yes, and I'm glad Mike's getting a little bit of rest because I mean, you know, this is the time of year, burning the candle at three ends with all the sports that are going on here.
And so we'll go over all the sports that's coming up this weekend in just a little bit.
But Kristen, first, we're gonna take care of something in the news.
It's not...
fun to talk about, it's not easy to talk about.
But it has to be talked about because I thought I'd seen some pretty low behavior by right-wing politicians previously.
This may be a new level.
I previously thought the lowest of the low was trying to pass laws that mandated that women seeking abortion care get invasive, what are called transvaginal ultrasounds.
I mean, where you're...
you are being violated if it's something that you did not seek out to have done.
It's even worse than that now.
I'd never heard the phrase catch kits before, but you've got a legislator in your part of the state who wants catch kits to be part of the vocabulary of any woman even contemplating becoming pregnant.
Do you mind explaining what this legislator is proposing?
So I'm heavily invested in this as a Wisconsinite, as a northeastern Wisconsinite, as a mom, as a woman, as an OBGYN doctor.
Senator Andre Schach has proposed legislation
to ensure that we have clean water here in Wisconsin.
That's what it looks like on the outside.
But in reality, this is an anti-abortion bill that would require the DNR to test for medication abortion medicine and would also require women who have used this medicine, who are suffering from miscarriages, suffering with...
bleeding, let's just say bleeding, to catch the remnants of what is falling out of them and return it to their doctor's office.
And if that sounds terrible to you, it's disgusting and horrible.
You're literally catching the remnants of a miscarriage, putting it in a bag to be treated as medical waste and having to bring it back to the doctor's office.
as if you haven't been through enough trauma already because this politician says we're worried about medication abortion drugs getting into the ground water.
Now I'm married to an OBGYN who had the perfect response after that.
Are we no longer allowing these women to pee?
Well,
That's the thing, Pat, because this is all part of a much bigger agenda.
And we saw this from the Heritage Foundation.
There is a plan to ban birth control.
And because women who take birth control pills...
pee than that, they are claiming that that is causing endocrine disruption in our water supply and therefore we need to stop it.
I want to remind you though that this is the same group of people who are not actually interested in ensuring that things like PFAS and proven contaminants, things that we know are harming people, they are not interested in testing for funding or holding polluters accountable for polluting our
And remember that people who are experiencing pregnancy problems, regardless of whether this is a desired pregnancy, not a desired pregnancy, where you're at in the pregnancy, this is emotional.
This is hard and it's scary.
So to take advantage of people when they are vulnerable like this, to add yet another layer of fear and uncertainty, to make them feel like they have to go through a bunch of certain total unnecessary steps.
going to get in trouble.
And to provide that that that layer of that chilling effect that makes people uncomfortable is so very wrong.
Why can't we just make sure people can get health care?
Why can't we just ensure that we've got enough doctors and nurses and that we're keeping our rural hospitals open?
Then let's start working on things like let's already be working on things like clean water.
But this is a bill that just takes all of those things and mashes it together and doesn't fund any of this, by the way.
It's a parody of a bill.
And by the way, this comes on the same week that the legislature has wrapped up its work for the calendar year.
And it included one more effort by Democrats to bring forward a bill that would expand Medicaid.
coverage to postpartum women instead of 60 days postpartum to 12 months after the birth of a child.
This thing has about three-fourths of the assembly, including about 30 Republicans as co-sponsor, and yet Speaker Robin Voss pulled a stunt in the assembly this week that prevented it from being allowed to come up for a vote.
Did you see the clip where
Representative Robin Vining was trying to make a point on this and they just cut off her microphone.
And if you know anything about Representative Vining who's from the Wauwatosa area, she is somebody who is good and accountable and is doing all of this for the right reason.
And she's a rule follower.
And when they shut off her mic, she had two minutes to speak.
That's what the rules say.
When they shut off her mic, which was completely inappropriate, she kept talking.
because she knew she had to.
Because what she was talking about was life-saving health care.
Remember, Wisconsin is one of two states that takes health care away from new moms at 60 days postpartum.
The only other state is Arkansas and they're working on it.
So we are out there on an island abandoning new moms, abandoning young families,
because Robin Voss just didn't want to bring it to the floor.
Most Republicans, most Democrats in the Assembly, in the Senate, they believe in this bill.
Most Wisconsinites want this to happen.
They tried to throw a Hail Mary the other day.
Robin Vining stood up for the people of Wisconsin, and you know who didn't?
Even those Republicans who put their names on the bill, they just sat on their hands and watched.
It was one thing to say, well,
You know, Speaker Voss is holding this up and people, you know, in Green Bay or Chippewa Falls or wherever thinking, well, he's not going to listen to me because he's not my state representative.
But now there are literally dozens.
of Republican representatives whose names are on the bill and who didn't lift a finger this week to get that bill through.
So whether it's, you know, Senator Jesse James in the Chippewa Valley or, you know, Patrick Weston or Patrick Teston in the Wausau area and all the others.
If you are a Republican co-sponsor of this bill, nobody has a direct comment to Speaker Voss anymore.
It's now on you that you didn't care enough about the women in your life.
and their state of health to do anything to stand up to a bill that one guy is holding up.
And if these people are out there campaigning that they signed onto this bill, and I guarantee you they will be, we have to hold them accountable for failing to see it through to the end.
This is that level of hypocrisy, because they're thinking that we're not paying attention.
And you know, for the most part, we're not, because this is a complicated system.
Pat, you are a senator.
You know there are all of these rules and procedures, and this could happen, and that could happen, and stick it in this committee.
We can't keep up with that.
But in this situation, it is...
crystal clear, those Republican legislators put their names on a bill and then abandoned Wisconsin women when we needed them the most.
And by the way, speaking of rules, yes, as a former legislator, you saw from the people in the assembly on the Democratic side saying, well, we will respect the rule, the rule that he invoked to pull a little trick to move the bill from one committee to another so it couldn't be brought up for a vote.
But the thing is, they're also the ones who the rules say you've got two minutes to speak.
Oh, but if we don't like what you're saying, we'll cut your mic off.
And I mean, they've done that again and again and again in the assembly and the Senate instead of being respectful of somebody with an opposing viewpoint.
So don't tell me all about law and order.
Don't tell me about following the rules when you behave just like, you know, the the wannabe dictator, you know, that leads your party.
You're telling on yourself when you when you pull
Honestly, crap like that, cutting off the microphones of fellow lawmakers on the floor.
And they seem to enjoy it.
And what happened in 2024 was a few less Republican legislators got to enjoy it because they were bounced with new maps.
And now you've got new maps in 2026 for a lot of these Senate districts where you're going to see some very competitive races.
And so a vote like this or the lack of a vote like this, this is going to be an issue in more districts than Robin Voss's.
And nobody wants to pay attention.
And it's ugly because you don't want to side.
So partisan.
It's so ugly.
How do we pull people in and help them see what's really happening?
Because I think what's been happening in Wisconsin is we are nice and we don't like conflict.
So we just say, I'm in the.
middle.
We don't want to commit, but this is different.
This is accountability and because of our fear to hold them accountable and to commit to this, we are letting them run all over us.
We've got to step up and take a stand
when people really start to care is when it affects them directly or somebody that they know directly.
And the trick is to really get people to open up the blinders of compassion and think more of how this could impact somebody, like a daughter, a wife, a sister, as the case may be.
And act on their behalf rather than just throwing up your hands and walking away.
If there's no other message you take away from a program like this, it is to engage with these things that, you know, politics can often sound ugly or divisive or distant.
Don't make it distant.
This is about you.
You know, what's what's the old saying?
If you don't have a seat at the table, you're on the menu.
You know, so many of us don't know who our state senator or assembly rep are.
I do and I'm going to be showing up over the next few months and I'm going to be asking a lot of questions about their votes and what that means and how that serves me and the people that I care about.
And I challenge other Wisconsinites to do the same thing.
Get to know the people who represent you and know what they stand for.
It's clear and 28 many rural communities like Tigerton are busy with the deer hunters getting ready for the gun deer hunting season.
That's coming up.
We want everybody to be careful out there.
He said last night homemade pizza and my sister.
Lori's house and went to Sean O for a meeting.
We appreciate you writing in as always, Rob.
You can always get in the comment sections of YouTube and Facebook as well or use that Civic Media app.
I'm Pat Krightlow from Up North News and this is the Civic Media Radio Network.
Parker Olson producing things in Madison Studio A2.
Kristen Lyrely joining us from up in Northeast Wisconsin as well.
Tony in the comment sections from YouTube up in Ashland saying, who's Kristen talking to this weekend?
Did I miss that?
No, Tony.
No, Tony, he didn't.
Just doofus here did not remember to plug the show of a friend and colleague.
So tell us, Kristen, about the Dr. Kristen Lyrely show this Saturday at
I'm so glad you asked this Saturday.
We've got Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodriguez.
So I'm interviewing all of the gubernatorial candidates here in Wisconsin.
And this weekend, Sarah Rodriguez lays it out, tells us what she cares about, gives us a little bit of background about her.
You know, Sarah and I go way back.
We both turned in our assembly papers at the same time in 2020 when we both went from being healthcare providers to running for office.
So it's a great conversation.
I think you're really going to enjoy it.
And if you are interested in what's happening with the Wisconsin governor,
governor's race, you're not gonna wanna miss it.
Let's see, Rob from Tigerton again says, the pack of Viking Games Sunday, they call it the Highway 29 Bowl because from Green Bay to the Twin Cities, you travel 200 miles on...
Highway 29 until you get to I-94 near Elk Mound.
And I remember there used to be this bar not far from there just east of Elk Mound that was painted half purple and gold and half green and gold.
Oh,
No.
But it was, I mean, that was marketing.
That was very smart marketing.
And then it had to be torn down when they expanded Highway 29 to four lanes.
I wish they could have moved it or I can't believe somebody else hasn't rebuilt that because in that Elk Mountain, Chippewa Valley area, I mean, you've got enough Vikings fans that you could.
Really make a name for yourself not as the Viking bar but as a place where people from both sides can come together a little bit of detente if you will
And they've got a cage and dusted fish fry that is just so good.
Although again, cage and dusted is not necessarily for everybody.
Sherry and I got to Madison late last evening.
We went to have a beverage at the hotel lounge.
And the guy running the bar, great at mixology.
I mean, he handcrafts all these drinks, but he was trying to sell Sherry on, she just wanted a plain old white Russian, but was trying to say, well, this one's got like a bit of an infused, how was it, peanut butter and something else, and then a little bit of cayenne pepper.
And she was like, no, I'm out.
Nope, can't do it.
I tried it.
And let me tell you something.
A white Russian with some of these other little ingredients, including a little cayenne pepper, that's a nice little addition.
A nice little kick.
Everybody likes
And I call him little pet Crite low and he like has a holster that he walks around with chili powder in and he puts chili powder in nearly everything and I'm exaggerating.
He doesn't have a holster.
But any time I'm cooking surprise.
But everybody has their own little favorite touch that makes something special.
And that's why we were asking about the fish fries is asking people, you know, what is it?
It's not just that you have a favorite fish fry.
I mean, you can have that.
But we kind of want to know what makes it the way that it is.
I know that at a place where we used to go, they had just the best deep fried fish.
And just because you stick something in a deep fryer doesn't mean it's going to be good though, nine times out of 10 it does.
But it was just the way that they deep fried their fish that just made
it's so irresistible.
Oh, it's an absolute must.
And especially if you're doing it, you know, supper club style, like high shores house up here, uh, between, uh, the, the big and small lakes on Lake Wasoda, I mean, they've got just an incredible salad bar and some salad bars.
They're still putting out the pickled herring.
It's not as popular as it used to be, but that's when you know you're in a genuine place is if they're putting the pickled herring out.
Is that, is that for you?
Are you putting that on your plate?
There just might be a little bit of little PK in me here because I too like I start with mayo and ketchup but then I kick it up a little bit.
with something like chouloulou hot sauce or something like that.
Yeah, for the French fries and look for something.
Because I'm not, the tartar sauce is a little too much like pickles necessarily and I'm not a big pickle fan.
But boy, if you can take mayo as a base and then kick it up a little bit for your fish or your fries or whatever.
Oh, yes, it is.
All right.
Well, we've made ourselves hungry, but we still got another 30 minutes here before we can
Go find a place with a 9 a.m.
fish fry.
Good luck with that.
But anyway, as we mentioned before, Mike Clemens is a little under the weather, so we'll give him a pass on this week.
Let him get started on the weekend here.
We'll talk to him in a couple of weeks after Thanksgiving.
But we will talk about sports when we come back on the other side of things here.
All ahead of Matt Nair on air from 9 to 11.
Jane Matt Nair and Greg Bach, they'll be joining you soon here on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Nice to have you back up north, even if up north is Madison.
In my case today, it's 835 on this Friday morning, November 21st.
Parker Olson is right here with me in Madison Studio A2.
Dr. Kristen Lierly joining us.
Normally Mike Clemens would as well, but he's under the weather and so we're going to give him a pass and we'll talk to him in a couple of weeks here because he's got a lot of sports to cover in the coming days here.
And so we'll muddle through on our own on sports, if you guys don't mind.
Then we're going to talk about sports mascots.
coming up in just a bit.
But before we do any of that, best listeners ever.
Kristen was asking about a particular supper club.
Could not remember where it was somewhere south of Stevens Point.
Roger, right on the spot, saying Sky Club in Plover, which Rob right away over on YouTube was like Sky Club Supper Club.
It was truly an excellent place.
So there
I do.
Yes.
Division three will be Grafton and Reed's Berg.
They are starting off an hour and a half or so here at 10 o'clock.
Notre Dame and West Depeere via one o'clock in Division II and then in Division I, the four o'clock kickoff, Arrowhead versus Bayport.
It's Bayport.
No, I'm just kidding.
Now, at this
123-114.
They next play Saturday night.
They will be hosting the Detroit Pistons.
Let's see, we've got the Badger Men's Basketball team.
They are playing this afternoon against BYU.
Coverage begins at 2.30 on several civic media stations.
Again, that's Badger Men's Basketball.
Badger Women's
basketball on Sunday will host Detroit Mercy.
Let's come over to hockey now.
The top ranked Wisconsin Badger women's hockey team.
Yep.
They won against St.
Thomas last night.
They will play again tonight.
The Badger men's hockey team.
They will be playing tonight at top ranked Michigan State.
Coverage will begin at seven o'clock on a couple of civic media radio stations.
Badger women's volleyball 10th ranked in the nation.
They will host Iowa on Sunday.
Of course, you've got Badger Football.
They will be taking on Illinois.
Coverage begins at 4.30 tomorrow on several civic media stations, and several civic media stations will have the Packers Vikings game as well.
Sunday morning, noon kickoff, 10 a.m.
is when the pregame begins.
Head over to civicmedia.us to learn more.
Now, you're not part of, well, Packer Vikings games, they're fine, they're fun, but where I was going with this was, you know,
the Badgers Gophers game and that's next week.
No, I did at one point try to get my friends to do maybe like a little series of children's books and they just weren't into it, not their jam.
Oh, that would have been fun.
I know that's why when I saw this new documentary about Bucky Badger that's coming out, I was like, this is fun.
These are my people.
These are my fun people.
My people.
My
Yes, Wisconsin Public Television is premiering Bucky a documentary on December 2nd.
Charlie Barron's will narrate the story of Wisconsin's mascot.
Uh, let's see, uh, it says here, while Bucky Badger specifically serves as a representative of UW Madison, his appeal stretches to every corner of the state.
Bucky is a whimsical and heartwarming story for everyone from in and out of state alumni to fans of Wisconsin sports teams.
And those who are curious about how the Badger state got its most famous representative.
I still think the Kristen Lyrely documentary as her years as Goldie would probably do better.
It'd be very fun.
You
know, when I was little, I knew about Bucky, but I didn't know anything about the University of Wisconsin.
I didn't know about the Big Ten.
I didn't know about the rivalries, but I knew Bucky.
I mean, up until the point that I went to college, I knew Bucky.
And I think that that's a common experience here in the state.
That's what Bucky is a symbol.
that is Wisconsin.
So I'm really excited, even as having been the competitors mascot, which I love and I love those people too, but it's different.
It's like having two kids and you love them both, but you can't love them the same because they are individuals.
I love Bucky in a whole different way.
So yeah, that that that should be fun.
And it's what it is, is it's it's
kind of old school in its own way because they work so hard now in marketing departments to come up with new mascots and make them fierce or flashy or whatever.
And don't get me wrong, Bucky and Goldie and all the others, they have evolved over time.
Go look at those mascot costumes from like the 1920s and 30s.
Creepy
That'll give that gave children lots of nightmares.
So things have definitely evolved.
But again, it's just it's just a critter.
You know, it's not, it's not trying to make it something that's not like, you know, like you're ready to go to war about something or another.
Oh, it's Bucky.
It's Bucky.
It's just our own little symbol here.
It's our own Mickey Mouse, if you
You get jealous.
Yeah.
I'm going to I'm going to assume.
that since you were bringing it up, it clearly must be about the badger man getting set to pull a huge upset win, a pair of wins over Michigan State, which would be great for me from a personal standpoint, having a family member working for the Western Michigan, your national champion, Western Michigan Broncos hockey team
It really, yet it does.
And whereas in Wisconsin, I always, I always find it funny.
It's not that we're not.
a hockey state, but if you look at the state tournaments, what does everybody want to watch?
State basketball.
They love, oh.
Well, and football, I meant in the wintertime that, you know, people, they can go to their high school gym and they can catch football game after they do their fish fry, you know.
And not so much hockey, but high school hockey and college hockey on either side of us in Minnesota and Michigan.
That is, that's some big time rivalries that are going on there.
But
They probably lit up at one point But when you beat up your brother enough times with it the light part doesn't work so good no more There are a couple of pretty significant like
Yeah.
Dents in the lightsabers back at the Olsen home.
Yeah.
So we've been asking today about fish fries and where people go for a good one.
And you know, for the thing that prompted all of this was our local's love section of our daily newsletter that Ellie Bordeaux puts together.
It occurs to me I have not yet shared some of those answers there so let me let me do that because Ellie went through all this work.
There's the place called on the house in Sheboygan.
Beth
Says the perch and walleye are spectacular, choice of potatoes, fresh marbled rye bread.
We have not mentioned the rye bread or the coleslaw.
And the coleslaw, the sweet kind, not the kind that's overly vinegary.
You know, people have their own fashion.
Their old fashions are a great accompaniment, says Nancy about Fibbers in St.
Germain.
Josh writes in on behalf of the Appleton Beer Factory, says, if you ever make a stop to Appleton, this is the place to be for fish fry, seasoned well and reasonably priced.
And then finally, Dawn.
Best of South Central Wisconsin winner located downtown in a vintage building.
So again, there's the Elroy eatery for there.
So speaking of best ofs, I haven't brought this up yet.
Maybe next week I'll actually try to.
Do some actual campaigning here, but volume one the newspaper the alternative weekly in the Chippewa Valley is doing their annual best of the Chippewa Valley and This final radio show is in a couple of different categories.
If you are cruising to deer camp, be safe.
Bring home a big one.
If you're heading to one of those non-hunting events that take place, enjoy a little U-time this weekend.
For those of you planning to clean the house like crazy this weekend because companies coming for Thanksgiving, don't forget to hit the pause button.
You deserve that.
The place is gonna look great.
Just remember to take that turkey out well in advance, okay?
Kristen.
We were asking, or somebody else asked on YouTube here, said, wait, wasn't there a documentary about Kristen's campaign?
That is still pending, right?
When they initially approached me, that was what they suggested.
But what I came back with was, let's make it about...
what my campaign is about, which is health care and women's health care and reproductive rights.
So we pulled in a bunch of other folks and it's going to be something bigger and better.
I'm not sure when it's going to debut.
They're telling me within the next couple of months, but keep your eye out.
And I'm sure we're going to talk about it here.
Yeah.
He remembered.
There were a lot that came in on the text line here about our question of the day as well, so I wanted to get to some of those.
I mentioned earlier, Jim and Brookfield talked about the red mill in Brookfield.
Let's see, we have...
Robert in McFarland says the Maple Tree Supper Club, it rose from the ashes a little over a year ago, still has a great Supper Club atmosphere and great food.
Joe and Superior puts out the Lake Superior Whitefish at Hoops in Bayfield.
I believe we've mentioned them already as well.
Michael, that was on a different topic here.
Here's one from Laurie and Hayward suggesting that folks might want to donate to a veteran's center for homeless vets or perhaps a food shelf for Thanksgiving.
If you are able to, maybe offer family's coupons for Thanksgiving turkey and may you all have a blessed Thanksgiving.
Laurie, thank you very much for
Yeah, how much are you charging?
We just want to know.
We'll bring you something from a red owl in return.
Maybe some perch.
Yeah.
Jim and Brookfield on the text line just wants to say good Friday morning, Dr. Lyrely.
Just a near replacement update.
Yesterday, I rode my bike for the first time post-surgery, five miles outside.
instead of the stationery and it went great.
The list of guests from this week, and I want to review that with you.
Look at these wonderful people.
We had State Senator Jody Habish-Sinneken telling us all about the effort to save a big land conservation program, one that's facing tough odds against the corporate crowd running things in that part of the Capitol these days.
We had Sandy Pope, a former legislator, and Julie Underwood, former dean of the UW School of Education, reminding us that there is a blueprint out there
to fix how we pay for schools in this state, just still too many politicians rooting for our schools to fail.
So Julie, Sondie, thank you very much.
Don't give up the fight on that.
Let's see, we talked to Cam Stevenson from Courier Newsroom, who basically single-handedly built a searchable database that tracks some 20,000 items of the Epstein files that have already been released.
That's
You can search it for various keywords, you know, like Donald Trump, and you can search that by heading over to couriernewsroom.com and learning more.
So, let's see, we've got another couple of comments coming in on Fish Fries from PJ.
Another good place for Fish Fry in the Fox Valley is a bar called ICU in Nina.
ICU, get it.
Let's see.
I
It's okay.
It works.
It's like places that call themselves the library or, you know, nobody's home or whatever.
Rob says in Shawnaw County, west of Shawnaw, there used to be a Happy Corners Supper Club along Highway 29 back when it was two lanes.
So another place that got lost due to highway expansion.
But, you know, we asked people to give us some ideas for supper clubs that are no longer with us anymore that we missed.
You mentioned the Avenue in Madison and how nice that was.
There's of course my up north news teammates, Sharita Booker, Selena Heller, and Ellie Bordeaux.
And I highly recommend Selena Heller's story this week where she basically followed a farmer around in his combine as he harvested soybeans talking all about the double whammy that farmers are getting from the trade war.
And now their health insurance costs are being jacked up.
She just fits right in the little corner there and can get things done.
We heard from Sheila Everhart from Wisconsin Agricultural Tourism Association, Hans Brighton Moser, Sean O'Malley, some great insight on your money and the markets.
Of course, Joseph Pecky and Melissa Baldoff, Mark Jacob, Jim Santel.
Kia Vakil.
We had the Civic Media Cavalcade of Stars this week, Jane Mattener, Earl Ingram, Chad Holmes, Jimmy Koska, James Kelly, John and Gordy, Greg Bach, my fish fry buddy Jim Zahn's, and the proudly parapetetic, enduringly effervescent Dr. Kristen Lyrely, a one-woman ICU for your funny bone.
Producers Parker Olson and Frank Argano are still here.
I'm not sure why.
God love them.
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