An Abortion Ban By Any Other Name (Hour 3)

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An Abortion Ban By Any Other Name (Hour 3)

Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Fri Nov 14, 2025

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Pat Kratlow (Host)

Good morning, welcome back 806.

Nice to have you here up north.

It's a Friday morning, November 14th, 2025.

Parker Olson producing things down in Madison Studio A2.

Dr. Kristen Lairley is with us as well as always on Friday mornings.

Mike Clemens will be coming up in just a little bit to preview the weekend coming up in sports.

Rob says good morning from Tigerton.

It's sunny and 29 degrees.

He says today he wants to go take pictures.

of the farmers who lease my family's property who are combining their corn and get some corn harvesting shots.

He says I love a new place in Wittenberg called Brits for ice cream Sundays.

It's in the old A&W off of old Highway 29 in Wittenberg.

I still love A&W for their ice cream and Sundays.

Let's see and he notes we were talking about the Starland vocal brand Starland vocal band during the news break here amongst ourselves and talked about how they had a

variety show.

We were talking about one hit wonders over the break here.

And apparently my definition of one hit wonders needs to be expanded or something like that.

Dr. Kristen Lierley

Do you get a variety show if you're a one hit wonder?

I

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don't think so.

You did in the 70s.

Everybody

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had a

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variety show in the 70s.

I'll give

Dr. Kristen Lierley

you that.

Bobby Vinton.

Oh, that's one of my favorites.

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Shannana.

Bobby Goldboro.

Yeah, Tom

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Jones.

Donnie and Marie.

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Yep.

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Sonny and Cher.

As I

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can say, they all saw Sonny and Cher and said, oh, we can do that.

Like, no, Sonny and Cher were...

uniquely good.

Dr. Kristen Lierley

Captain and Tenille.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

Oh, yes.

Yep.

They

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had one

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too.

Uh, we're really dating ourselves here.

So let's

Dr. Kristen Lierley

get back to them.

I knew none of

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those names.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely is here.

Host of the Dr. Kristen Lyrely show.

You can hear on Saturdays at noon across the Civic Media Radio Network.

What is happening this weekend?

Dr. Kristen Lierley

Oh, I brought back an oldie but a goodie.

Not really an oldie but a civic media oldie, Kristen Brie.

Oh.

Kristen Brie and I chat about all the things.

being a mom, being on radio, the New York Times, peace on liberal feminism and what they got wrong.

It's a good conversation.

Kristin's just such an interesting person and the two of us.

It could have gone on for hours and hours.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

I would listen to that.

Dr. Kristen Lierley

You ought to.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

I mean, seriously.

Oh, I mean, I will listen

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to it.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

I'm saying if you did.

If she ever gives up, she's working at some other like up and coming radio station in

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Milwaukee right now.

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If that ever, you know, doesn't work out for her, you two need to start the podcast.

Dr. Kristen Lierley

You can't stop us.

We could be sitting in my living room drinking wine, and all of a sudden it's two o'clock in the morning.

I would just, yes.

So it was easy.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

It would remind me of the Fox football reporters, Carissa Thompson and Aaron Andrews.

do a podcast now.

Unidentified Speaker

Oh yeah.

It's

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called Calm Down.

Unidentified Speaker

Yup.

Because they were

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always told you need to calm down and you know you can tell how that went over and they they are still you know very uh by the book reporters uh talking about football on Sundays but they now have this platform where they can just say whatever they want with all the words they want to use and it is it is rather refreshing.

And I think you and Kristen would be amazing at that.

Dr. Kristen Lierley

Yeah, you can't stop us.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

No.

Or we get you on with Kylie Kelsey.

Dr. Kristen Lierley

Oh my

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gosh, I would love that.

The wife of the now retired Philadelphia Eagles football star Jason Kelsey, not Travis, who's.

Engaged to Taylor Swift.

Did I get that right?

Yes.

Yes.

Dr. Kristen Lierley

Jason had quite a tour of Northeast Wisconsin last weekend.

Oh, that's right.

He did.

He got the prime rib.

He got the spotted cows.

He got the old fashions.

He did the whole thing.

He got the ice cream drink at the end.

His stomach didn't know what was happening.

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The

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Philly man was very confused.

Dr. Kristen Lierley

And

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I love when you've got a couple like that that are just, you know, they're they seem to be good people and they're genuinely funny.

Again, you know, Kylie Kelsey's show, her podcast, which is called Not Gonna Lie.

It's fantastic.

It's, you know, again, she's speaking on behalf of moms everywhere, and then also as a, you know, kind of sort of celebrity of what life is like there.

So anyway, now that we've proposed all these other shows, let's not forget the Dr. Kristen Lierley show with Kristen Brie joining her as the guest coming up this Saturday at noon across the Civic Media Radio Network.

Dr. Kristen Lierley

And

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on YouTube.

And on YouTube as well, yeah.

We're going to get into a headline or two with Kristen in just a sec, but I don't want to forget that we have plenty of sports that you can hear across civic media coming up this weekend, starting tonight.

The Badger Men's Hockey Team takes on Ohio State.

You can hear coverage starting at 6.30 tonight on WFHR in Wisconsin Rapids and WJMS up in Ironwood, Michigan.

The Badger Football Team, they're going to have a tough one going up against the second ranked team in the country, Indiana.

coverage begins at 9am on several civic media stations and then the Packers and the Giants play at noon.

So coverage begins at 10am on several civic media stations.

Of course, Mike Clemens will be along and just a little bit to tell us much more about what to expect this weekend.

But Kristen, let's talk about the The New York Times editorial board making a unique proposal that I think they were trying to be helpful.

And clearly,

Unidentified Speaker

I

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don't know.

There is a.

there as expressed by writer Jessica Valenti, who has a newsletter about women's reproductive health.

And she was none too happy about what the New York Times editorial board said they they first did lay out the brutal reality of post Dobbs America, the way that Planned Parenthood is under attack, abortion medication is under siege.

You know, women are dying.

And yet they the New York Times editorial board

said quote, Congress should set a floor that allows for basic access to abortion in every state.

Such a law would return the country to a version of the legal landscape before the Supreme Court allowed burdensome restrictions, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And Jessica Valenti writes, let's be very clear, a national floor set by Congress is a national abortion ban.

Calling it something else doesn't change that reality.

They don't specify where is this floor?

Is it 12 weeks?

Is it 15 weeks?

vast majority of Americans do not want government involved in abortion at all.

Most Americans understand that pregnancy is too complicated to legislate at any point.

How do you feel about that?

Dr. Kristen Lierley

I agree with Jessica Valenti.

I think the New York Times right now is just trying to get clicks.

With that, with the opinion piece about liberal feminism, they are just looking for attention.

Hey, this is a terrible idea.

Americans have said over and over again, they do not want government dictating the health care that we receive.

And abortion is, I think, the most prominent example of that.

But I mean, no matter who you are, you don't want somebody from the government saying, oh, sorry, that's a law we made.

You can't get that medicine or that treatment.

We heard this with death panels.

We've heard this over and over again.

Why?

Why New York Times?

Why are you even suggesting this?

It doesn't make any sense at all.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

No.

And frankly, not that it's not an important issue, but because it doesn't really, it's not really a serious proposal.

Unidentified Speaker

I

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feel like it's taking attention away from the more pressing health care issue right now.

And that is the way that health insurance premiums are going to skyrocket and

there are going to be so many people uninsured as of the first of this year.

They're getting those new premium prices right now.

And they're either saying, well, we don't have a choice.

We're going to have to, you know, cut corners in some other ways.

Or more likely, they're just going to say, I guess we're going without health insurance.

We're rolling the dice come January 1st.

Dr. Kristen Lierley

How about the New York Times writes an editorial about making sure that every American has access to quality, affordable health care, no matter where they live that I can get behind that.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

I think I think anybody could.

And the question that

Dr. Kristen Lierley

I asked all of us, what?

Pat Kratlow (Host)

Yes.

And so the question I asked of the panel last hour and key of a keel in our first hour.

And I'll ask this one of you and it's going to sound a little too political baseball.

So don't take the bait if you don't have to.

But there will be this standalone vote as part of this, you know, shutdown deal.

And so, you know, Derek van Orden in the house and Tony Weed and Tom Tiffany and Ron Johnson and others in the Senate will have to take a vote.

on something, theoretically, if Republican leadership keeps their word.

Let's just say for the sake of argument that what they're voting on is not full reinstatement of the enhanced premium tax credits under the Affordable Care Act, but it's also not zero.

It's something that is negotiated.

Do you see a scenario where something could pass or are we all

kind of in the boat of nope, no matter what that vote says, nothing's going to change.

Everybody's prices are going to are going to jack up.

How should we have any sense of optimism about what Congress might do with this issue now that the shutdown is over?

Dr. Kristen Lierley

I honestly don't know what they will do other than they will take the directive that is given to them.

That is the one thing that we have seen consistently from my Congressman Tony Weed.

He does not represent the people of Northeast Wisconsin.

He is the mouthpiece for Donald Trump.

So when the administration makes a decision about what they're going to do, he just puts it out into the universe.

And I suspect the same from Ron Johnson.

We've seen that over and over again.

I mean, he completely caved when it came to the deficit with HR1.

this giant budget deficit and he said, we can't mortgage our children's future.

And then he had a conversation with Donald Trump and sure enough, we can mortgage our children's future.

And it's not actually that hard.

So whatever the administration tells them to do, they're going to do.

And one of the things that I find most concerning is that

If we as people don't step up and hold these leaders accountable, they just keep railroading over us to the point where they are literally starving people, one in eight people with these snap benefits.

Half of them are children.

Many of them are living with a disability.

They are elderly.

They need this food to eat.

Yet the federal government has been like, I don't think they really need it.

We have to hold these people accountable.

That is the only way we are going to get leaders who actually represent us.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

Well, instead they're doing like what, what Derek Van Orden did in that stunt where he rode his motorcycle, you know, 900 miles to Washington DC, which again, I feel is just a big old stinging indictment of how Sean Duffy's managed the air travel system.

But anyway,

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he'd rather ride

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his motorcycle through a windshield as a political stunt and.

he posed for getting a little award from somebody I assume from Harley Davidson because he thanked Harley Davidson for the award for his 900 mile motorcycle ride to get to Congress to vote to jack up your health insurance rates.

I mean, that is literally a participation trophy for driving to work.

Dr. Kristen Lierley

Yeah.

He's just all about the flex and there's no, there's no meaning in what he does.

You know, he's an angry man who just wants attention.

and is not doing anything for the betterment of the people he is supposed to be representing.

And we see it over and over again.

And I really hope that the people in the third are watching and understand just how poorly they are being represented.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

I hope.

And I think what will help show that is a series of stories that Selena Heller is doing for Up North News that will be published very soon here.

She spent the day with a farmer just as he was on his combine all day.

you know, harvesting all these soybeans, going through all these soybeans and talking about the double whammy.

First off, he's having this bumper crop, but no place to go with it because China stopped buying US soybeans.

I know they say there's a deal, but you know, believe it when we see it.

So he's already hit by falling prices, but increased costs for, you know, for fertilizer and everything else.

And then on top of it, farmers are self-employed.

Farmers have to go to the Affordable Care Act marketplace.

You know, everybody thinks, oh, these people in the marketplace, they're just, you know, bums or whatever.

No.

Farmers.

Farmers need good prices for their health insurance or they go without health insurance in this dangerous occupation.

So he's already been hit by Trump's trade war and now he's getting hit by Trump and Derek Van Orden and Tony Weed and all the Republicans saying, we don't care that we're pricing you out of the health insurance market.

Dr. Kristen Lierley

They don't care.

No.

So you'll

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see Selena's reports sitting right there in the cab of the combine and out

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in

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the fields as well.

So we'll be looking for that on our social media sites.

Just search for UpNorthNewsWI on Facebook and YouTube and Instagram and all that.

All right, still ahead.

Mike Clemens is going to talk about sports.

It's going to be another busy sports weekend as well as we continue rolling along on a Friday morning.

I'm Pat Krightlow.

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Pat Kratlow (Host)

Coming up next week on the program, we have a very special homeroom segment.

Homeroom is the segment we do Wednesdays at 7.30, all about school funding and public schools and defending them from threats in Wisconsin.

Look, Wisconsin's school funding system is a mystery to most people, but there is an even bigger mystery out there.

Gathering dust on a shelf is a comprehensive bipartisan plan to simplify and improve school funding in our state.

Whatever happened to it?

The 2017 Blue Ribbon Commission on School Funding was praised as a model of how Republicans and Democrats could work together to make public education more stable and taxpayers' costs more affordable.

But putting words into deeds requires action by the legislature, and we've all seen how that's going these days.

So next Wednesday at 7.30, we will hear from two members of the original Blue Ribbon panel, Julie Underwood, former dean of the UW School of Education, and former state rep, Sandy Pope, as they discuss whether the Blue Ribbon Plan could still be a roadmap for lawmakers today.

tune into that next Wednesday at 7 30 part of our homeroom segment on mornings with pack right low powered by up north news on the civic media radio network back now with Dr. Kristen Lierly as well and

The Packers are playing in New York against the Giants.

So is this the part where you tell me, oh, you just happen to have a trip to New York going on this weekend for

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a

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conference?

Dr. Kristen Lierley

No, I'm going to be raking leaves and listening on the radio.

That's my plan for Sunday.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

By the way, nice trust fall video that you put up with pink in the background as you fall backwards into a pile of leaves.

That was, I mean, look, I know you made the, you know the leaf pile is there, but that's still the way you fell straight backwards in there.

That's

not something I would necessarily pull off.

I'd find a way to assume the pile of leaves was big enough and then bash my head on a rock down on the ground or something like that.

But it looked fun.

Dr. Kristen Lierley

I did rake that pile of leaves, so I knew exactly what was in it.

And I did not want to leave it because I really got buried in it.

It was very fluffy and it smelled so good.

Oh, that autumn leaves smell is just, hmm.

You should try it.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

Oh,

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trust me.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

I did.

You know what?

One of my favorite photos and, you know, the girls, when they get older, they don't want to see all the pictures when they were little kids and stuff.

But still, one of the best pictures I ever took was when they were something like, you know, five and seven or six and eight.

And I raked a big old pile of leaves and then had them run straight through it.

And I get them in mid pile where their arms are up and they're running and they're smiling and there are leaves everywhere.

And sometimes you ever take a picture and go, wow.

That turned out way better than I thought it would.

Dr. Kristen Lierley

Yeah, I love that.

We do that for Halloween.

We make a big pile in the front yard when the trick-or-treaters come up.

They're like, they're eyeing it, and we're like, you can jump in it.

They get really excited about it.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

Oh, bet they do.

Let's see it's a it's a Friday morning here 826 Mike Clemens is going to talk sports in just a sec and I hate to move into you know darker stuff but we were talking about what they're voting on in Washington and we can't talk about that without talking about you know what's happening with the the Jeffrey Epstein case here and for this reason you feel like when it comes to the Affordable Care Act subsidies that members of Congress all the Republicans will do whatever Donald Trump tells them to do.

But in this case, not all of them are.

And I think that when this discharge petition to release the Epstein files does finally come up for a vote.

And I think I think there will be more stalling tactics attempted.

But I think you're going to get a fairly decent number of Republicans who are going to go along with releasing this and not just do the cover up that the president wants them to perpetuate.

Does that having said that, does it give you any

extra optimism about the Affordable Care Act or conversely, do you feel like I'm wrong and the Epstein files are just going to stay all covered up?

Dr. Kristen Lierley

I think that the Epstein files, everybody knows that this is the

dividing issue.

This is the thing where people are taking a stand and we've seen it.

We've seen Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert and some of the people who have been most extreme and most loyal to Donald Trump really starting to peel away for a variety of reasons.

So I personally think that the more we learn and they're still going through these are just the emails that

Unidentified Speaker

we're

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seeing the whole Department of Justice.

thing is it has not yet been released.

Remember back in the day a few months ago when they had the binders and they were talking about releasing and talking real big and then they decided that they weren't going to.

It is clear that they are holding something back.

So what I'm hearing from most Americans is put it out there.

I don't care if Bill Clinton is in there and whoever else.

If there are people in there who have been doing these kinds of horrendous deeds

put it out there so that we can hold these people accountable.

And I think that's where a lot of these legislators have lined up as well.

So it'll be very interesting to see how this all shakes out as more and more information becomes available.

And it is irrefutable.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

We've got now under two weeks until Thanksgiving.

What's what's the the Lylee family plan here?

Is it you and the boys?

Because I know you don't cook.

So

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is the turkey coming from a

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deli or what

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here?

I don't mind cooking.

I just don't like the routine of cooking.

It just feels like a lot of effort when I could just have an apple with some peanut butter on it for dinner.

But when it comes to, Thanksgiving's like an event.

So you know, we bring the kids in and everybody picks a dish that they like and everybody cooks together.

And with the kids being gone now, most of them are not home.

So to have that, everybody come back and my sister shows up and then usually some stragglers show up.

It just really feels like a together time.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

Now watch me take it in another direction.

Now, it's Thanksgiving dinner off the table by the time you start decorating for Christmas.

Is it something you do on the Friday?

How much time does Thanksgiving actually get before we move right into Christmas season?

Dr. Kristen Lierley

Oh, Pat, it's go for Badger Football on Saturday, so I don't have time.

I have to get to Minneapolis for the game.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

Of course.

Dr. Kristen Lierley

Uh-huh.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

Do they ever, do they have like, will you?

get the chance to dress up as as Goldie, the mascot,

Dr. Kristen Lierley

like a little alumni, take a turn in

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there.

Look at you giggle.

You would love that, wouldn't you?

Dr. Kristen Lierley

Yeah, you know, I can't, I can't really reveal that information.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

Okay, well, stay tuned for that.

Thanks for taking part in our in our little week and review quiz.

Have a wonderful weekend.

We'll listen to your show tomorrow and then we'll see you Monday morning.

Dr. Kristen Lierley

Sounds good.

Have a great weekend, guys.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

All right.

Thank you.

Coming up next, we'll talk to Mike Clemens about sports.

It's going to be a busy one for all sorts of badger teams.

Packers are playing as well.

I'm Pac Rightlow.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

Nice to have you back at 835 on this Friday morning November 14th.

We are into that time of year where there's just sports all over the place as seasons start to overlap and there's we get to see postseason action in some places like

High school football is getting into its final stages here as well.

The NBA season is underway.

We've got the Packers playing this weekend, all that and so much more that we're going to cover now with Mike Clemens who joins us and keeps keeps an eye on everything that's out there.

And Mike, good morning.

How you doing?

Mike Clemens

Good morning from Green Bay.

How are you?

Pat Kratlow (Host)

I'm good.

I'm good.

I'm sure you will be traveling to New York to the middle ends this weekend.

Mike Clemens

Yes, I will.

Got a Packard game coming up tonight.

It's going to be the Bucks at Five-Serve Form in Milwaukee, and they're taking on the Hornets.

They played the Hornets and Charlotte the other night.

Hornets able to snap a three-game losing streak.

They won 1-1-1-10.

Bucks, they've not fallen to seven and five.

They're like seven or eight in the Eastern Conference right now.

They go off to a good start there.

Yana set out his second game of the season.

He's got like this 10-to-90s thing in the knee.

and then last night we got a note from the team the torian prince of ford he's been out for a few games with a neck injury he had to undergo surgery for herniated disc uh... in his neck so he's going to be out indefinitely but out of that you know the bucks are looking pretty good as ryan ron's he's only twenty three uh... he's you know he had like twenty five points in one game uh... couple nights ago so he's he's kind of filling that role that maybe damey and lullard had the last couple years

a shooter to help out yeah so tonight at five sir form it's round two of the nb a cup uh... the n-season tournament which the box won last year in las vegas they think that they call it the group stage

Unidentified Speaker

i

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don't understand what that means but i just know that that's what's on the on the line tonight against the hornets in milwaukee

Pat Kratlow (Host)

And so do we feel like the honest tendonitis, so this wasn't a case of, you know, rest him up for this game, so maybe he's better for the cup game, but this is a lingering concern for AnatoCupo?

Mike Clemens

Obviously, and you know, Pat, every time I see this guy, he's 30 now, 31 years old, you know, some point I'm gonna ask Doc Rivers off to the side, do you ever just sit this guy down and say, you know what, it's November?

stop throwing your body and take a lesson from like Kobe you know stop doing that big consider yourself more of a shooter you know and maybe your defense but if there's any because he's on his back six or seven night times a night and that you know that can't be good for this guy in the second half of his career so

Pat Kratlow (Host)

Yeah, all right.

Well, that's again, that's coming up tonight at the Pfizer forum.

Meanwhile, let's see, we've got the Wisconsin Badger women's volleyball team.

They're back in action.

We haven't talked about them very much because they're, I mean, they haven't been top ranked in the country, but they are still extremely competitive this season, Mike.

Mike Clemens

Nebraska is number one again in women's college volleyball.

But yeah, Kelly Sheffield still got that great program going on tonight.

There'll be an East up in East Lansing, Michigan, taking on Michigan State to Spartans.

6 p.m.

The game's gonna be on the Big Ten Network on TV.

Yeah, Badgers are 18 and four, seven and one on the road.

I think they're 11 and three in the conference and they're ranked 11th in the nation.

They got back one of their players, Charlie Furbringer.

She's a setter.

She'd missed a couple of games with an injury, but she's back.

Mimi Culver, it's a...

exciting team, and they draw when they're at their home games in Madison, man.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

They

Mike Clemens

sometimes sell out to Cole Center, yeah.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

Yeah, I mean, and I think Nebraska is still undefeated on the season.

They are just a machine this year.

Let's head over to baseball where, again, we had the good news earlier that Pat Murphy had been named manager of the year for the second straight year, and the accolades just roll on for the team.

Mike Clemens

Yeah, and so now Matt Arnold, the GM, named

major league baseball executive for the year for the second year in a row and i think you know the the voters you know they recognize that for once again the brewers come into the season with some key injuries like brandon woodruff and others they keep bringing up these young guys uh... and with the questions are where you finding them and how does murph get them ready to the point where they have the you know the best winning record and all the major league baseball through the regular season

The 14 game winning streak and you know other teams just saying how do you do this and on that payroll So yeah, I'm at all not only winning that executive year thing for a second year old but after the season The ownership also gave him a boost in title.

They've now called him the president of baseball operations for the boers Doesn't really change what he does, but I imagine you know, he got a little bonus there on his pay stuff,

Pat Kratlow (Host)

right?

Oh, yeah, yeah

new title, new new zero on the paycheck, maybe.

And no doubt well learned for what they're doing.

Again, there, there is the fan frustration of trying to get over, you know, the next hump, but to get to this point in, you know, the smallest market is just an amazing achievement.

Mike Clemens

now

Pat Kratlow (Host)

and

Mike Clemens

and you know the sweep dodgers like they did both out in l.a.

and then in milwaukee and the dodgers look like they've you know i was in the clubhouse you know with dave robertson and you know and mookie mookie was on the phone talking about an addition to his house with his wife like where were these guys heads at but of course their pros their veterans you know and they pulled together in august and september and then they you know then they did they just rolled and they went you know back to back world series

Pat Kratlow (Host)

We've got the Badger football team that is in action.

They will be taking on Indiana.

And Mike, I don't follow college football that closely.

And so the college football rankings look so weird to me.

So I see the Badgers taking on Indiana's second ranked in the nation.

Now I'm used to Ohio State being up at the top and they are again this week.

But your top college football teams, Ohio State, followed by Indiana, followed by Texas A&M, and then Alabama, Georgia, Texas Tech Ole Miss and

and on and on, it goes with the usual suspects.

The Cindianna thing, it feels to me like it kind of came out of nowhere, but like I said, I don't want you carefully.

Mike Clemens

Yeah, well, you know, and that coach there's in his second year.

Kurt is in his second year there.

His brother used to be a quarterback coach for Mike McCarthy.

These are Pittsburgh guys.

He's done an amazing job in recruiting and coaching and entering the program around.

NIL might have something to do with it with those other teams you mentioned that are in the top 10.

so going into the last week's game you know the university announces that luc fickle will definitely be back next year that uh... word we're gonna say it's not the coaching but that finances we're gonna have to put more finances into the program in other words you know kick up the paying scale to try and get some of these recruits and in the rain they won that game you know last week uh... against washington uh... and rain in the snow later on with some of the recruits in the stands watching the game so it was emotional

You know, they're not going to win tomorrow in Bloomington.

Kickoff at 11 o'clock.

Can I tell you two quick story, Pat?

So last Saturday, because it's a Monday night game, I'm in the Packers locker room.

And you know, we go in there and we get our interviews and we gather our information.

We kind of go like a grocery list of players we'd like to talk to.

And we're on the clock.

Got to be out in 45 minutes and there's a set time.

And well, there's maybe five minutes left.

And also, I looked down at the end of this brand-new Packers locker room with all these giant screens.

And Peter all gathered around this one screen, mostly media people, some PR people, front office people.

And then some players are coming out of the showers, and they're looking up.

And I'm like, what are they looking at?

Almost like being at a monitor in an airport where people are gathered.

Like, what's everybody watching?

And it was Penn State, up by four over Indiana, this top-ranked team.

and out comes uh... recede walker left tackle he's watching now evan williams safety and then michael parsons i don't want to see what you owe you a for penn state and i was so cool to watch a college football game with these nfl players because it just shows you know what these guys are i mean they're all football they can't take their eyes off of it and they're they're breaking down what's going on again and after a couple of minutes in this i thought

Do you know what Packer fans would do for this opportunity to sit here in this practically living room and watch this game?

That was a pretty cool moment last Saturday.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

Oh gosh, no doubt about that.

We're talking to Mike Clemens talking about some of the sports that we're going to be following this weekend.

Some of it on the Civic Media Radio Network, including the Badgers at Indiana.

Pregame coverage begins at 9 o'clock tomorrow morning on several stations.

Then of course, there's the Packers heading to New York to take on the Giants.

Pregame begins Sunday at 10 a.m.

That's at MetLife Stadium in the Meadowlands.

What can you tell us about the Packers trying to get the train back on track here?

Mike Clemens

Yeah, the Packers coming off back-to-back losses.

Now, you know, was it upset that they lost to the Panthers at home, although the Panthers are an improving team.

And then on Monday Night Football, you know, they lose this, you know, baseball matches, 10-7 loss to the Eagles on Monday Night Football.

And people know that the Packers' defense is performing at a high level, but what's wrong with the Packers' offense and who's in charge of that offense?

Matt LaFleur and so he gets asked after the game, are you on the hot seat?

Are you coaching for your job next year?

Because that all got started when the president of the team, the new president of the team, had policy said,

Unidentified Speaker

we'll wait

Mike Clemens

until the end of the year before we talk about extensions for Goodykins and LaFleur going into their final season.

So then after the game, the frustration, Josh Jacobs the running back says, man, those eagles, they're so prepared.

They were calling out.

You hear them calling out.

Inside zone this way, this way.

Unidentified Speaker

Josh

Mike Clemens

Jacobs after the game Monday night.

Unidentified Speaker

Fourth and one, they called out our play.

We ran it like four times.

They called it out.

Got a good draw.

Push.

The clock was going out.

We kind of snapped it fast.

Faster than we wanted to.

And they made a play.

SPEAKER_09

It's Jacobs.

Flag flies.

Unidentified Speaker

As a runner, it don't never feel good.

Um, I mean, they called it out.

We caught our play.

They say inside zone.

It's coming right here.

So I kind of like didn't want to run right there.

You know, yeah, that's just how I played out.

We got to find actual way answers to our problems.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

Oh, man, that's a rough way to have the game when your plays getting called in front of you there, Mike.

Mike Clemens

Yeah, you know, so they need to see better.

protection from the offensive line then they lose elton jenkins their veteran offense lineman to a broken figula you know and ligament damage he's going to have to have surgery he's done for the year they move shawn ryan right car over center and how they take on a you know a giant steam that fired their coach brian dable after they are up by two scores and then lost to kala bulliams and the bears and jackson dart their quarterback you know he

For some reason, Davos kept on letting his quarterback have keepers and run with the ball.

He's like in his third or fourth concussion protocol of the season.

Russell Wilson got the play a little bit in that loss to the Bears, and now they've named James Winston as the starting quarterback on Sunday for the Giants against the Packers.

He was at his press conference yesterday.

SPEAKER_03

I want fans to know that I'm going to do my best.

Obviously, I'm going to have fun, but I'm going to have a surgical execution and just play ball, man.

This is something I've been doing since I've been four years old.

And I just get to do it in the greatest city in the world.

I'm going to be saying it with my son.

What's the greatest city in the world?

Yeah, that's a Hamilton reference, if y'all don't

SPEAKER_10

know.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

I heard that the first time, Mike, and I'm like, how are these guys not laughing along?

I got the Hamilton reference right away, and he's like, I'm singing the crickets out here.

So we got a minute left.

I mean, is James, I mean, he's getting a little long in the tooth here.

Mike Clemens

He is, but he's still got the gun, you know?

And even though defensive backs start licking their chops, because they think there might be a couple of interception possibilities there, don't forget,

He's a journeyman now around the NFL.

Remember that game four or five years ago where a hurricane hits New Orleans?

He's playing for the Saints, so they move us to Jacksonville, and he throws like 33 points up.

I mean, he's throwing darts and bombs all night and beat the Packers in that opening game that season.

That's one of the worst losses in the LaFleur era, so you hope that that doesn't repeat on Sunday.

But the Packers

Pat Kratlow (Host)

are

Mike Clemens

seven point favorites going into this game.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

Well, he's not gonna, he's gonna take his shot.

I'm gonna try the other Hamilton reference here.

Mike Lemons.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Don't throw away

Unidentified Speaker

that shot,

Pat Kratlow (Host)

buddy.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mike.

Safe travels.

We'll talk to you later.

Good night, everybody.

Kip your way.

Good night, everybody.

Exactly.

We'll wrap things up from final news and notes from Lake Wissota after this.

I'm Pat Krightlow.

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Pat Kratlow (Host)

Well, it's time to wrap things up for the week here on these mornings powered by Up North News, but we can't leave without noting that

There's so much sports going on this weekend, we couldn't pack it into one segment here.

We've got the Badger Men's Hockey Team playing on the radio tonight against Ohio State.

Coverage begins at 6.30 on several, well, on a couple of civic media stations in River, in Wisconsin Rapids, I should say, and Ironwood, Michigan.

The Badger Women's Hockey Team is at St.

Cloud State tonight and then again tomorrow afternoon.

We've got the women's basketball team hosting UW Green Bay on Sunday afternoon.

The men's basketball team plays next Monday.

They are playing S. I. U. E. Let's see if Parker remembers S. I. U. E. and what what it stands for.

Parker Olson

Edwardsville.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

Edwardsville.

Yes.

Southern Illinois University Edwardsville.

Very good.

The Cougars.

Oh, look, you even looked that up.

It's a boring name.

It's not the fighting camels.

That's on Monday.

He'll wrap up a four game homestand to start the Badger Men's basketball season.

After that will come games in Salt Lake City and in San Diego.

And of course, we've mentioned some of the other things already about the Bucks playing it.

Sure, playing at home against Charlotte tonight.

But one other college basketball note, Buzz Williams, remember the name?

I mean, he's still coaching, but remember he was coaching Marquette and he will be back and Marquette on Saturday on the other side on the opposing bench for the first time because he's now with Maryland.

And to give proper credit, I'm getting a lot of this from Ben Steele's story in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, but Buzz Williams went.

139 wins and 69 losses with Marquette from 2008 to 2014.

His teams reached the NCAA tournament five times in six seasons, advanced to two sweet 16s and an elite eight.

That was after he was a young head coach in New Orleans in 2006-2007 when Tom Kreen hired Williams as his assistant.

When Kreen left for Indiana, Williams took over at Marquette.

But Williams eventually went to Virginia Tech, five seasons, three NCAA tournaments.

Then he went to Texas A&M in 2019, five seasons, three NCAA tournaments before arriving now in Maryland.

And before he got there, Maryland and Marquette had already committed to a home and home series last year and this year.

So this had nothing to do with

Buzz Williams, you know, coaching Maryland, but now he will be back at Marquette on Saturday.

And that should make for some interesting fan reception there.

Parker Olson

It could be.

Yeah.

It's a little while removed, obviously, with he's

Pat Kratlow (Host)

had

Unidentified Speaker

a

Parker Olson

couple of destinations post Marquette, but now.

So it might be interesting to see that.

Yeah.

I don't know.

It's always a kind of an odd circumstance that homecoming for a coach.

Right.

So.

I don't know.

He seems like he's bounced around a little too much for how good

Pat Kratlow (Host)

he

Parker Olson

is,

Pat Kratlow (Host)

which makes me

Parker Olson

question what people think of him.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

Well, and he I mean, he was he rubbed a few people the wrong way at Marquette as well, which is part of what led to his departure.

So another case of, you know, he he gets the job done.

But how much are you?

It's the Billy Martin syndrome.

I'd like to call it.

There we go.

I've got a name for it.

You're doing really good, but I can't stand to have you around.

to wrap things up we're coming back to we were talking about not so much one hit wonders but people who are they get famous for a little while and then they're done then you're all done hearing about them and I I thought well I'm gonna go look up the list of best new artists who won the Grammy and you know see if see if that fits in what I'm saying so far no I'm completely wrong

Last year, you had Chapel Roan, who beat out, by the way, Sabrina Carpenter and Benson Boone and Shabuzy, among others, Teddy Swims.

Now, Victoria Monet in 2024.

I can't tell you if she's a one hit wonder because I have no idea who that is.

It might even be a group, not a person.

Same with 2023 when it was Samara Joy, Samara Joy.

I

Parker Olson

don't know her.

I knew Monet.

I knew that name.

Pat Kratlow (Host)

Well, I know Janelle Monet.

But I don't know, you know, Victoria Monet.

So I don't know.

You had Olivia Rodrigo in 2022.

Love her.

Yeah.

Megan Thee Stallion in 2021.

Billie Eilish in 2020.

And so anyway, I'm looking at all these categories with all the nominees.

Sure.

And here's here's the challenge for grandpa.

Oh boy.

How far back do I have to scroll to the point where not only have I heard of

all of the nominees for Best New Artist,

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but

Pat Kratlow (Host)

it's not just a case of, I think I've heard of them, but I can actually name a song by every one of the nominees.

How far back do you think I had to scroll to honestly say, I know every one of these nominees for Best New Artist and can name a song from them?

Pat,

Parker Olson

please remind me

Pat Kratlow (Host)

what year were you born?

1964, but we're not going that far back.

Parker Olson

Okay.

1963.

Uh,

Pat Kratlow (Host)

yeah.

Nice try.

Um, uh, I can say definitively, uh, it would be.

Was it in your new 99?

But I'm, I'm looking at, I'm looking at a few of these.

I'm thinking I might be, no, 2003 was Nora Jones, Ashanti, Michelle branch, Avril Lavigne and John Mayer.

So that, that one, that one may count.

Okay.

Um, but from that point on, there's always at least somebody where you go, I, I got nothing.

Uh, you know, to 2007 Carrie Underwood.

Yeah.

James Blunt.

Yeah.

Chris Brown.

Yeah.

Corinne Bailey Ray.

Corinne Bailey Ray.

Why didn't we hear more from her?

And then imaging, imaging heap.

Nothing, nothing, nothing.

It is, it is not like going back to who, uh, who did we have today for a birthday?

Steven Bishop turned 75 years old today.

Had a big hit that we played from 1977.

He was, uh, one of the nominees for Grammy Best New Artist in 1978 with a category that included foreigner, Sean Cassidy, Andy Gibb, and Debbie Boone.

And Debbie Boone won the Grammy for best new artist of 1978.

She had you light up my life and then absolutely nothing else.

So that just shows you what the best new artist from the Grammys will get you nowadays.

Thanks for playing a little musical trivia with us as we trace down memory lane and see what I still remember after all of these years.

Parker, have a great weekend.

Thanks to all of you for joining us as well.

Join us back here bright and early Monday morning at 6 a.m.

I'm Pat Krightlow from Up North News.

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