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Now, from our Lake WSOTA studio, here is the founding editor of Up North News, Pat Craiglow.
Well, hey there, Wisconsin.
Good morning.
It is 6.06 on a Friday morning, November 14th, 2025.
It is another beautiful morning to have you here up north live from Lake WSOTA.
From wherever you're spending your Friday morning listening across the Civic Media Radio Network or...
watching us on social media, catching us by podcast, however you got here.
Thanks for wrapping up your work week right here.
I got a question for you.
Do you have a local ice cream shop?
Yep, we've been previewing this for a day or two and you thought I was probably going to say who makes the best local ice cream?
Where's the best?
But it occurs to me that not every community has something other than one of the chains and there's nothing wrong with Culver's or Dairy Queen, but
an ice cream shop just strikes me as one of those things that a local entrepreneur can still do without worrying about being absolutely crushed by the big boys.
You know, again, I use Olsen's here in Chippewa or Ramones down in Eau Claire.
You can have a local ice cream shop without worrying that, you know, you're going to lose all your traffic to culvers or DQ.
It's not the same as say, opening a retail clothing shop, and then Walmart comes to town.
All right.
So
What do you have?
What would you like to tell people about?
Um, and yes, Tony, um, sorry, frozen yogurt, frozen custard that can all count to, uh, let's see.
Alicia's already online saying we've got, uh, I want to say Lammers Dairy in Kimberly or Lambers, apologies, whichever way that goes.
So yeah, want to know what you've got for ice cream shops and you're going, pad, it's so cold out there.
Yeah, temperatures are in the thirties.
Ice cream is a year-round treat.
We all know that.
Tony's telling us now Craven with a K frozen yogurt.
I'm guessing that's up in the Appleton area where he is.
Along the line on this Friday morning, you can join us as some of our friends are already on YouTube in the comment section.
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And you can also just record a quick little audio note saying the best ice cream shop is.
And then tell us all about it.
That way I don't have to mispronounce it either.
Tony says that Craven is right on Main Street in Ashland, not Appleton.
if I said Appleton, then clearly it's too early in the morning here.
Coming up, we of course have Keva Keel from Courier Newsroom and we also have our Week in Review panel, which includes former U.S.
Attorney Jim Santel and veteran Chicago journalist Mark Jacob and Jennifer Schulze.
And we'll ask them a Chicago specific question because it was, it really caught my eye in the Chicago Tribune to see a letter to the editor signed by, I didn't count the names, but well over a dozen different retired journalists and media.
folks who say, you know, take it from us.
You've been watching us do the news for years and years and years.
It is not normal to have the military to have troops in the streets of America's cities based on a presidential whim and don't normalize this.
This is not normal behavior by a president.
And so I'll ask our, we can review team about that.
Let's see.
Alicia says, hey, put some hot chocolate mix on top of some vanilla ice cream and you're good to go.
Make sure it's just the powder.
Well, Parker Olson's producing things down in Madison Studio 2A.
That's a new one on me.
Sprinkle a little hot chocolate powder on top of some vanilla ice cream.
Powder and wow.
That might be groundbreaking, Alicia.
Yeah, I don't know where Alicia got the idea.
I I sense it's a Navy trick while you're on board, you know, you can only get things that you can get.
But interesting.
Jim in Campbell Sport says Kelly's Ice Cream Shop and Eden, it's even been on Good Morning America.
Jim's listening on WAUK or through WAUK.
So we appreciate that very much.
No, Alicia, it's not the day it's not the Navy.
She says my dad introduced it to me.
That's a great parent-grandparent hack, you know?
Every so often, you're one of your grandparents, you're just like, oh no, do it like this.
We did this in the Depression or whatever, you know?
It's like, you weren't alive in the Depression.
Oh, it feels like it, you know?
Anyway, wait you weren't alive in the depression It just feels like it sometimes I've I've come through you might be soon That's right.
I've I've come through stagflation.
I've come through the OPEC oil embargo that precipitated it I've come through the the the big 80s and then the dot-com bubble and then the housing bubble and now the forthcoming AI bubble that's gonna burst the Great Recession
Yeah, good
times.
Yeah.
Sounds like a great.
I'm really excited to enjoy
your life.
You're really excited for your adulthood, aren't you?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
How many times have I said this is not the adulthood I signed up for, but it is the one that has been given to us.
So this weekend...
Let's see.
It'll be back to another niece or nephew has a kid getting a big birthday party.
So I'll see what kind of ideas I get from there because last weekend at a family function, I got the idea for that chicken pot pie soup, which was pretty tasty.
Definitely need to tweak the recipe a bit, but it was something different, something unique.
Why do I sense your plans involve white water?
My plans do involve white water.
Good senses, Pat.
I will not be going to Whitewater, though.
We're going on the road, going up to Oshkosh.
Oshkosh.
Oshkosh Begash.
We're going up there, got a buddy coming over, and we're heading up there.
Gonna hang out with his folks.
They've got some friends that we've got a tailgate going on there.
So we're gonna have a good
time.
So Whitewater is playing in Oshkosh, is what you're saying?
Yes, yes.
Okay.
I suppose I probably should clarify that, yes.
The Hawks are going to be up in Oshkosh.
If Waitwater wins, they will will be in the playoffs.
If they lose, they have about a 25% chance of being in the playoffs.
If they lose, their season's probably over is what we're saying.
Wow.
So do you do more of the sports chat or anyplace else instead of the short little window that I provide for you?
We do a smidge more over at make the call.
You can listen to that on the Civic Media radio network.
at 7 a.m.
on Saturdays.
So set your alarms for about now.
Eh, you got another 40 minutes or so to sleep in.
Tomorrow.
Tomorrow.
Tune in.
Jimmy Cusco is the host of the roundtable.
Greg Gunderson, who we actually heard earlier this week on our show.
Yes.
Talking about- Do your enters roundup, right?
Gun here.
Dear season, yeah.
And then Conrad Krueger over producing Nightlight with Pete Schwabba is on the roundtable as well.
Well, what a fine little opportunity this is to talk sports in Wisconsin.
Yes, it's great.
So get over to civicmedia.us if you want to learn more.
The Friday edition of the Up North News Daily newsletter is out and as promised, Ellie Bordeaux asking people where to grab a scoop when you're in the area.
And here are some of the ideas that
readers suggested.
Let's see.
In Burlington, there's Adrian's Frozen Custard as nominated by Dirk.
In Boulder Junction, there's the Ice Shanty and Mini Golf.
And Linda says they serve delicious Cedar Crest ice cream.
They have a weekly smoothie, smoothie special, such as an old fashioned, you can't get more Wisconsin than that Linda writes.
Nice.
In Abbotsford, you got to get to the Hawkeye Dairy.
Jerry writes the last time I was there, they had 31 flavors.
It's one of the rare places where I can find decent black licorice ice cream.
We're going to have to agree to disagree on whether there is such a thing as decent black licorice ice cream, but for those folks that like
it, you can drop the ice cream part off of it too.
Uh, yeah.
Yeah.
Let's see.
There is also, uh, the ice cream social in Madison made from scratch in small batches says Kathy and then there's nominations for Kelly country, Creamery and Fond du Lac and Clemish Creamery and New Auburn and more.
And if you're wondering what's Ellie got up her sleeve for next week and her locals love section, get ready because next week, um, we're going to ask who makes the best fish fry on Fridays.
Oh,
that's going to get people going.
That is indeed.
Uh, let's see.
Alicia gives out a go white water.
I think that's for you, Parker.
So there you go.
Well, it's not for you.
It's definitely not for me.
No.
Let's see.
I was going to ask if anybody had seen a third night of Northern Lights.
I don't see much for social media posts.
So I think, I think it's kind of run its course.
I heard one person last night going, oh, I heard they're going to be good again tonight.
Like, I haven't heard that, but I'll ask in the morning.
Nothing, nothing like that there.
In terms of temperatures, as I mentioned, it's in the thirties by and large across Wisconsin, a few scattered twenties, but it's going to get
above average today.
And I say all that to remind you of this.
This is one of those days where you bundle up the kids because it's in the 30s and then they're gonna come home and you're gonna go, where's your coat?
It was warm.
I didn't think to put it on.
It's in my locker.
And you know, Monday morning, it's gonna be a little chilly.
So this morning, remind the kids.
which I know feels like talking to a brick wall sometime, but maybe try to reinforce.
Don't forget your coat today, even though it's going to be nice and pleasant this afternoon.
On the social media, I just had to jump on this one right away.
I could not believe that Congressman Derek Van Orden actually had the
Sense to put up a post like this, but he did and you can see it over on our show page on Twitter X just search for PK radio show We're also on blue sky and I put it on Facebook at mornings with pack right low Anyway, Derek Van Orden puts up a post on his congressional account there of him outside the US Capitol with his motorcycle and Another guy is standing next to him and handing him something
Now, if you missed it, Derek Van Orden had so little faith in Sean Duffy and the airline system that he said, I'm going to ride my motorcycle 900 miles to the capital so I can vote on jacking up people's health insurance costs and ending the government shutdown.
And of course, he didn't do that selflessly.
Of course, he made social media posts out of it.
He made a little political hay.
He got a little national media attention for the stunt.
And then he gets there.
And the post says,
From Wisconsin to Washington, DC 951.8 miles on Milwaukee iron to fight for the American people Thanks Harley Davidson for recognizing my ride to reopen and It must be somebody from Harley Davidson standing next to him handing him a little trophy It's got a little badger with an old school, you know motorcycle helmet on with the little flaps on the sides
And it says presented to Derek Van Orden for your commitment to the people of Wisconsin, the ride to reopen.
Folks, Derek Van Orden is bragging about literally getting a participation trophy for driving to work.
That's all he did.
He could have flown to the Capitol.
He decided to ride his motorcycle.
He drove to work.
You know, the work that he's been skipping for the better part of two months on a paid vacation and when he did finally show up to work, it was to take a vote that would ensure your health insurance prices go up because they did not feel like even negotiating some kind of middle ground between the premium tax supports that make health insurance affordable in this country versus eliminating them entirely.
But after the participation trophy has been awarded, there is still this to say that as part of the deal, quote-unquote, to end the government shutdown, there will be a standalone vote on these premium health supports.
And the vote does not necessarily have to be to put them back to where they were, to where they are now.
It could be some kind of middle ground.
Will Republicans say that they want to seek out some middle ground here?
We'll talk to Courier Newsroom's Keva Keel about that in just a couple of moments.
And then coming up, we will have Greg Bach, I believe, joining us on Fridays for our daily history lesson.
Dr. Kristen Lierly will be along.
We'll be talking about how The New York Times called for a novel approach to abortion rights and abortion floor.
But make no mistake, that floor would quickly become the ceiling.
It would essentially become a de facto national abortion ban.
And Mike Clemens will be along to talk about sports heading into the weekend.
From the heart of America's Up North, live from Lake Wissota, thanks for making this the place to spend part of your mornings.
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Joining us now on this Friday morning is Kia Vakil, who is such a wonderful political editor for Career Newsroom and such an upstanding fellow, a proud citizen of the greater Philadelphia area.
He's not even gonna gloat about what the Eagles did to the Packers.
He's just so focused on his work, he's got no time to shame me.
Hello, Kia.
Hello, Pat.
Yes, I will give you, I will not shame you this one time.
You won't twist the knife.
We're already suffering enough here.
We got to move on.
All right, well, the country's going to try to move on from the shutdown.
It's going to take a while.
I have not asked your view on this.
And so I'm very curious to hear because I'm of the mind that this is still a fair debate to be had.
Is this a case of Democrats caved?
and they're they're going to be losers in the long run as a result or even though this was launched by a handful of Democratic senators, did Democrats you know on the whole win the message war because they've now proven that Trump will take food off your table and make your prices go up for health insurance and there's nothing you can say or do that will make Trump and the Republicans any more human and compassionate.
I think the answer is a little bit of both.
I think there is no doubt that Democrats were winning the political argument on the shutdown, virtually every poll.
gathered during it showed that voters blamed Republicans more and were increasingly souring on Trump throughout the shutdown.
You know, it turns out threatening to keep 42 million people hungry and fire a bunch of photo workers, not so popular, especially while you're gutting the White House to build some gaudy ballroom.
None of that really, people don't like that stuff.
So I think Democrats were winning that fight.
They succeeded in elevating the healthcare fight to it being a national issue.
which is what makes it all the more galling that these eight senators did cave, to be honest.
I don't think it's the majority of Democrats wanted this.
I think there were probably more than eight that did.
But I think that speaks to sort of an existing still sclerotic institutionalized order in the Senate, particularly,
where you have
a lot of these.
The average age of these senators was who voted to open it was 70-something.
It's a lot of people who are retiring, a lot of older senators.
And, you know, it's I think emblematic of sort of the old guard of the party that still has some sway in the Senate, which doesn't really have a lot of turnover, but is increasingly being drummed out of the house.
And, you know, I understand their argument.
I disagree with it.
I think, you know, a lot of them are saying, you know, we, you know, it wasn't working.
Trump wasn't going to cave.
If the goal was to get Trump to cave, this was.
He's not going to cave, but you do make him own the fact that he wants to throw 40 million people off their food stamps, 20 million people off their health insurance.
That's what politics is.
And if you want to protect people, I completely get that and I support that.
And that's a valid reason to vote to end the shutdown.
But you got to message it better than the way they messaged it.
If the airline delays were part of it, you got to talk about that more.
I just think the way, one, if you're going to vote to reopen it, I can understand that.
I disagree with it.
But you got to be able to articulate your reasoning beyond just, oh, we failed.
I don't think that's a compelling argument.
Long term, do I think it's going to have an impact on Trump standing?
a little bit, but I think his standing is already so poor that and the party's standing is already so poor that it's on the edges.
For Democrats, I think really what it'll do is it'll just advance further grassroots energy to topple Chuck Schumer to primary some of these old guard senators.
Like, I think that's really the long-term impact of this, which, you know, if you're like me and believe that some of these folks have got to go, that's a positive thing.
If you are more institutional and more, for lack of a better term, centrist, you probably aren't loving that.
And thank you, by the way, for the word of the day and the episode title, the sclerotic Senate.
I think that
says
it perfectly.
Thank you for capturing that.
Well, we've got to take it to the next step then.
And I have already admitted I may be accused of building this up too much, but there will be this standalone vote now on the enhanced Obamacare premium tax credits.
And it would be easy to say, well, the Republicans are all going to hang together and this is going to be a big nothing burger, but.
based on things like, well, some of the Republican defections on the Epstein files and the heat that they've been getting back home for, you know, for the shutdown, including the big jump in Obamacare premiums.
It is, I would say the odds aren't zero that there are enough Republicans that would say, well, if we can reestablish the enhanced premium tax credits, but just not as high as they were, they'll take that half a loaf and maybe this will
dull sum of the price increase.
How rose colored are my glasses, Kia?
I think they're a little rose colored.
I mean, I think there's two different things.
I think, yes, there are let's say half a dozen Republican senators and probably a dozen Republican or so members of the House who want to see these renewed with probably with some tweaks.
I think they want, you know, you see Susan Collins saying we need an income cap to get subsidies, things like that.
which, you know, to be clear, the more you earn, the less subsidy you get.
So like, there's already a version of that, but reform is okay.
But there are not going to be enough Republican votes for that in the House.
I just don't like Republican moderates barely exist.
They are a dying breed.
You have a handful of them.
You have way more Freedom Caucus members.
And you're also not going to see Mike Johnson put a bill on the floor that only seven of his people support.
Carried by mostly Democrats So there's that and then I do think you know, we're already at mid-November even if they pass something Is there time to get it implemented by January 1st?
I don't know I hope so but they're not gonna pass anything until December clearly even if they do pass something so I'm a little more skeptical I think it's you know, I think that was the bare minimum They were gonna be willing to give Democrats was a vote in the Senate.
I think Democrats use that as a messaging vote
Maybe I'm cynical, maybe something will happen, but I just have very little faith that Republicans give a crap about problem solving.
Kia, thank you.
Have a great weekend.
You too, Pat.
Thanks.
All right, we've got a big history lesson coming up for you next.
Truly A to Z, starting with Aaron Copeland, ending with Jay-Z.
That's coming up next.
I'm Pat Krightlow.
This is the Civic Media Radio Network.
It's time once again for today's history lesson on mornings with Pat Crankwell.
Well, welcome to this happy place.
Welcome.
Ladies and gentlemen,
the Beatles.
That's one small step for man.
Well, I'm not a
crook.
You believe in miracles yet?
You know, this depression is going to be so great.
We'll be the ones eating the cats and the dogs.
That's going to be fun.
Once again, it is time to take another revealing peek back into history.
We almost have a case where our wardrobe matches the music as Greg Bach joins us.
Wearing, get this, folks, a collared shirt.
What?
Are you just mocking me now with the plaid collared shirts here?
Of course, that's how you took that
one.
It's all about me, of course.
And not only was it about you, but you made it about me making fun of you.
Yes, because that's what we do here.
We're all about the mockery.
But anyway, we look like we could almost belong to this music from Aaron Copeland.
This is a rodeo.
Aaron Copeland was born this day in 1900.
Referred to by his peers and critics as the Dean of American Music, Copeland's open, slowly changing harmonies, make up what many consider the sound of the American music, evoking the vast American landscape and pioneer spirit.
Compositions like Rodeo, and then in other words, like this one, this is his fanfare for the common man.
I
feel like I'm about to get on a space shuttle.
Yeah.
I feel like I'm about to win bronze.
It never has a more sweeping, more epic song, sounded more insulting in its title.
Yeah, for the common man.
This is for you weak ones.
Alicia puts up Fival Goes West.
Wait, what is that?
I don't know.
So Aaron Copeland born this day in 1900, passed away in 1990.
On this day in 1908, Albert Einstein presented his quantum theory of light.
Here with more is Greg Bach.
It's very bright.
It's really hard to understand.
And in like 75 years time, they're not even going to believe it.
They're going to be like, is gravity even a thing?
And that was
science with Greg Bach.
I just knew if I just tossed it to him, he would have that.
The correct answer is, it proposes that light behaves as both a wave and a stream of particles called photons.
This theory explains that light energy is quantized, meaning it exists in discrete packets, and the energy of a single photon is directly proportional to its frequency.
Duh.
And speaking of quantum, about 75 years from now, a group called the Marvel Cinematic Universe is going to use that word way too much.
I don't know why I turned my Albert Einstein into like a Longshoreman.
I
think
I
just
want to
avoid any offensive stereotypical accents.
So he went for the Longshoreman instead.
Yeah, yeah.
He's
had too good for too long.
Yeah, that's right.
Let's go to another American music legend Ray Charles This version of his song that's been remade so many other times was the number one song this day 65 years ago in 1960
And
again I hear the audience saying could you just not talk down
We can just listen to Ray Charles for a while here.
Well,
I'd go with that.
Well, I appreciate the previous gentleman in the music that he created.
When you want to talk about the American experience and the American everything, I feel like this music has to be a part of it.
Oh, yeah.
The soul of it all has to be a part of it.
And while I appreciate a good Western theme.
You need you need you need some of this
too.
You can't do a Mount Rushmore of American music and limited to four people I don't know what the number is But if you can put Aaron Copeland on there, but you got to put Ray Charles on there too.
You just do Happy anniversary government standoff and shutdown happy 30th anniversary to the government shutdown of 1995 when a budget standoff between
Republicans and Democrats in Congress forced the government to temporarily close national parks and museums.
What's past this prologue?
On this day in 1987, the number one album was the soundtrack to Dirty Dancing.
Now, Dirty Dancing, the movie was set in 1963, but the movie featured several modern, original songs like this one.
I've had the time of my life with Bill Medley and Jennifer Warren, Hungry Eyes by Eric Carmen and more.
Excuse me.
Yes, yes, yes.
Featuring She's Like the Wind, sung by Mr. Patrick Swayze.
Yes, yes, of course.
We can't forget.
Very important.
We can't forget that effort by the late Mr. Swayze.
Also in movie history today, this one might stir up a little trouble.
It was on this day in 2003 that love actually opened in theaters.
It had some musical moments for the purposes of this bit.
You had Hugh Grant dancing to the Point Your Sisters Jump.
You had Emma Thompson having a breakdown while Joni Mitchell sang both sides now in the background.
And everybody, not everybody, but so many people say this is like
One of those quintessential Christmas movie watch list items.
A, never seen it.
B, don't want to see it.
Especially when I hear how some of the characters behave in this.
It just sounds like it's a rip your heart out and stomp on it type of movie.
And
it's not my cup of tea.
It has garnered a whole bunch of controversy, not a lot to make it like, we can't play this anymore, but there are definitely too many think pieces about it.
And I believe that for some people, that movie means a lot.
It holds a place in their heart.
Cool.
For some people like yourself, you don't want to see it for your reasons.
Great.
I just feel like also when people start to talk about it and pontificate, I'm like, let's no.
We
can
talk about something else.
Exactly.
Here's a different controversy about the movie's Moana.
The animated Disney film, including The Rock, premiered on this day in 2016.
Why is it controversial?
because I have a granddaughter, three years old, who is all about Disney princesses, loves all the princess costumes.
But if you tell her Moana is a princess, she will stomp her feet and cry and she will throw a fit because Moana is not a princess because Moana is stronger, braver, doesn't rely on all the things that I know that my daughter taught her about.
So in her mind, Moana is not a princess.
She's even better than a princess.
I would say the young lady from Brave.
I can't remember her name now.
Oh, yeah.
She would she very very much Bucked the system of that as well.
So I love that in the movies now It's not like oh, I'm sleeping beauty.
I'll just wait here for a man to kiss me, you know Yeah, we've definitely evolved in our you know Heroine characters and good on
that.
Ah, yes meridia meridia from brave.
I like that
movie.
I enjoyed that movie a lot Now they're doing a live-action Moana version and no one asked for that.
No, no nobody wait what?
Oh, yeah,
yeah, just just go with Moana to don't You don't everything doesn't need to be live action.
There's charm.
There's charm to animation.
I tell you
Also on the birthday list today singer songwriter you ever know you just can't add anything more.
That's the cherry on top
Parker give me a good old fashion get off my lawn.
No No point made
Point to Hufflepuff.
Let's move on.
Singer, songwriter, Stephen Bishop.
I'm a
Gryffindor.
It's 74 today.
Stephen Bishop is 74
today.
It's been a while.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You have to really be looking for one of the mellow, oldie stations.
like the kind I probably have welded to my radio dial.
You're saying, hey, wait, Pat, Steven Bishop is 74 today.
Rapper Joseph Simmons, a.k.a.
Run of Run DMC is 61.
Born this day in Hollis, Queens, New York, you could have played music from there.
I could have.
I think we've learned Pat's DNA.
He's going to play the Schmaltz T-70s tune every time.
I think, you know, for as much as we talk about rock on this show.
I was going to say, there's a reason there's a captain's hat right behind me here.
This might
be
the
quintessential mellow gold example.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
It's smooth.
Yeah.
Ooh.
Onto 1992 now, where the theme song to the Aaron Spelling TV drama, The Heights hit number one.
It was done by Jamie
Walters.
Aren't
you like having a flood now of all the TV opens from like Beverly Hills 90210 and and what Halle McBeal and all the other shows that they were all party with this party of five all the angst of being in your early to mid 20s
My friend Jessica and I, who I love like a sister, we bring up this show and this theme song more than we talk about our own family members.
Really?
Yeah, it's because it's so schmaltzy as you put it, because it's about a group of people who are in a band and they're in a terrible band that should never go anywhere.
It's just, they're not good.
Those individuals all have what my parents called causeless anger.
Causeless anger, I like that.
I just remember in the 80s, there was
We were in our 20s and ABC had this successful primetime show called 30 Something.
And Sherry and I were in our 20s and we loved to mock that show because again, all the angst, all the drama over what, you know?
We realized fast forward now when we are in our late 40s, 50s, we're like, you know what?
That show had actually nailed it.
When we look back
at
our own 30s now, we're like, oh, that was actually a preview of coming attractions.
I guess we should have paid attention.
Oh well.
Up to 1998 where Lauren Hill became the first female rap solo artist to hit number one.
On
this day in 1957 Hank Aaron with the Milwaukee Braves became the National League's most valuable player.
On this day in 2003, Jay-Z released the black album with classics, including 99 Problems and this.
Now, one
more point, one more item here, and it addresses something that we talked about just yesterday, and that was Michael Jackson's Thriller.
And we were looking at the release dates and we're like,
It seemed weird that it was all all the stuff was happening after Halloween wouldn't have been a Halloween you know premiere well turns out on this day in 1983 so November 14th 1983 Michael Jackson's 14-minute film thriller debuted in Los Angeles it became the most popular video in MTV history and it just kind of reinforced what I was saying is back then in the early 80s Halloween was not nearly
the holiday it is now.
It was literally just send the kids out with a bag
and they'll
go get some candy.
And I'm not going to say Thriller started it because obviously it came out after Halloween, but I think it kind of paved the way for others to kind of turn Halloween into more of a media and adult event and not just those kids and their milk duds, you know?
To which everybody says, what's a milk dud?
A candy designed specifically to destroy your teeth.
Oh my gosh, yes.
Oh, man.
Let's see.
Parker, what's on the national big calendar
here?
It is National Teddy Bear Day.
Are you a big fan of teddy bears, Pat?
I
didn't have one, if that's what you're
asking.
Parker,
Parker, tone, tone.
I'm having a day, Greg.
Hey, Pat, answer the question here.
Are you a fan of teddy bears?
What do you like?
You like the President?
You like the Graham?
What do you like?
You like teddy bears?
I'm creating my own fun.
I need it.
I know what else you got.
It's also a national pickle day Yes, it is to which we say dill garlic spicy.
Thank you bread and butter.
Please leave.
Oh And
finally operating
room nurse day.
Yes, definitely had to get that one out there
class.
Again, all the best to all the OR nurses and everybody who makes makes it work there in the OR.
All right, Greg Bach is here as part of today's history lesson and coming up in the next hour, we will have our week in review panel.
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Oh, welcome back.
Greg Bak is here as well at 652 and we will get to some entertainment news in just a moment.
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Greg, if we can talk about retirements, plural for a moment here.
Oh, man, that sounds amazing.
Doesn't it, though?
And sadly, neither one of these involved me.
But of course, we, you know, we've talked here about Jane McNair, you know, calling it a career after what'll it be?
45 years?
44 years.
I'm going to
say 45.
I'm calling a cool 45.
It's
a better number than 44.
Round it up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so that'll be December 12th is when she's wrapping things up.
And nobody deserves it more.
Except maybe on that same plane one week earlier on December 5th, mild co-anchor Judy Clark will be retiring from WEAU channel 13 after also about 40 years in the business, including 35 of them, I believe at TV 13.
And Judy and Jane are about as real as it gets.
I mean, whether it's radio or TV, the broadcast industry,
needs more James, it needs more duties.
They are, they are absolutely heavenly to work with.
They are genuine, but they don't put up with any BS from the boys.
And I'm just here to say that there are there are two women that I've had the pleasure to work with who do not enjoy retirement.
There's nobody who
deserves an enjoyable retirement more than those two.
And the fact that they're retiring within a week of each other is kind of symbolic for me to say this is this is how you go out.
You go out on top and good for them.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Well, congratulations to your friend Judy.
Yeah, and we're gonna be having some fun with Jane over the next few weeks.
I mean, the last two weeks of her time here, essentially the first two weeks of December, we'll be having on great guests and having great chats and taking some
Trips down memory lane and maybe there'll be a few surprises.
I don't know.
You'll just have to tune in 9 a.m.
11 a.m.
Every day Monday through Friday here on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Just I can't tell you what's gonna happen.
It's a surprise.
Okay.
Well, I'll do it.
I'll do it.
You've talked me into it
because it's National Pickle Day.
I'll put you in a pickle.
You gotta decide between going to work and listening to
Matt Nair on air on the Civic Media Radio Network.
There you go.
Entertainment news coming our way from one Parker Olson.
Yes, sir.
It is.
Are you familiar with who Tom Felton is?
No, okay.
Greg is nodding his head.
Thankfully.
Okay.
Expelliarmus.
Yes.
He played Draco Malfoy in a Harry Potter.
Yes.
Okay.
And he has character didn't know the actor.
Okay.
He's returned to his role because there is a play of her.
Yes, the Harry
Potter play on
Broadway.
Yes, first child.
Yep.
My daughter, my daughter, a younger daughter, huge Harry Potter fan.
And she'd seen it on Broadway a couple of years back.
So now he's coming back playing his, his character from the film.
Yes, he is
now playing him as an older.
I was gonna say, that would be like, who played Harry Potter?
Daniel Radcliffe.
That would be Daniel Radcliffe coming back to do it and being at Hogwarts.
Trying to patch yourself off as a high school freshman.
Professor Snape, I got a question about potions.
Hello,
fellow
youths.
By the way, I think this is all just a lead up to...
reboot Harry Potter.
Oh, when they when they are when they are of the age in real life that they were playing at the end of the seventh movie or the eighth movie so they can do a third wizarding war.
Oh, well, there you
go.
That's what I believe.
Oh, I was thinking
it was just a rebuild type because they are remaking it
into a TV series.
Yeah, they're redoing the TV.
They're doing the movies into yeah, into into season long shows.
Every book is going to be an
I'm not going to lie, I'm a little interested because I want to see what from the book they cut for the movies that they'll put in the TV shows.
But also, I don't want to give JK Rowling a single dime of
money.
No, I don't want to either.
yet.
I mean, Game of Thrones, it translated.
You know, the books were fabulous.
The TV show was fabulous.
I just, you know, to a point, I'm just, I'm a little hesitant.
I'm a little nervous about how they would turn out.
But I think eventually what will happen is that they are going to, they are going to not reboot it.
They're going to continue the movies into another set of movies where it's a third wizarding war.
Okay.
So Star Trek, where the sequels just never stop coming.
Let's see, you got another story for us there, Parker?
Yeah, Dave Burgies, the leader of the Champs, was famous for the song Tequila.
He has passed away.
Yes, he would lead just this week.
He was 90.
The Champs with
Tequila.
Do you have a clip of that handy?
I
do not, unfortunately.
No,
I did not think that
far ahead.
Well, look would you like me to sing it for you?
We've we've no we've given you two minutes to find to find tequila so we can end the segment on that kind of a note.
Oh, I got
tequila right
now What do you think son of a desk wait a minute that's when we bring Sharita Booker in our north news who's a resident tequila expert.
Yes, we can totally do that and What what's the southern note you have your Disney plus to start having AI generated content.
Oh, no
They're gonna I believe that they're gonna be sure
of their own characters.
Yeah, they're calling it their most significant move since launching in 2019.
So what did they do?
They just like say to an AI generated computer, make a cartoon featuring Olaf and the Seven Dwarfs.
Go.
Yes.
Yes, that's exactly what it's going to do.
Oh, no.
OK.
Yeah.
Well, that leads to this question.
AI generated Disney combos you'd like to see I've given you I've given you Olaf in the seven dwarfs you take it and run there are no limits What what Disney combo what Disney mashup?
Include
even use all the band stuff too.
Yes.
Oh god.
I was just thinking What Star Wars is technically Disney now?
Yes, it is.
Yeah, he walks with the seven dwarves
Uh, where, where can we relegate Jar Jar Binks?
Oh, okay.
Don't get me started on that.
I have a lot of thoughts on that topic.
So I
don't
have time today.
All
right.
Don't harsh on him.
Okay.
All right.
We'll come back to that's when we clearly need to reexamine.
And there's, there's tequila.
Greg Bach, thank you so much.
Have a great weekend.
You too, guys.
Thank you.
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