Beat Back the Billionaires (Hour 1)

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Beat Back the Billionaires (Hour 1)

Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Fri Nov 7, 2025

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Pat Craiglow

Well, hey there, Wisconsin.

Good morning.

It is 6.06.

It is a Friday morning, November 7th, 2025.

It is another beautiful morning to have you here up north.

Live from Lake WSOTA, from wherever you're listening across the Civic Media radio network.

or by podcast or watching us on social media.

I know some of you have been waiting for us on social media.

It's not our fault.

You still haven't adjusted to the time change yet because I still haven't adjusted to the time change yet either.

But we're getting there and we'll have the weekend to recover.

I got a question for you.

Who's got good cheese curds?

We're going to talk about that today.

That's part of our question of the day.

Ellie, I'm pretty sure, has that as her question for her Friday newsletter that you can get at upnorthnewswi.com, you know, because we've talked in the past about your favorite local burger place, your favorite pizza place, burger place.

So I guess we're doing cheese next.

And according to our readers,

Well, I've got a few different suggestions here.

I'm looking at the newsletter right now.

I'm going to rattle off some of these, but in the meantime, if you want to talk up your own hometown Kurds, 855-757.

855-752-4842.

Tell us where we can go next time we're in your hometown.

And we got a hankering.

And by the way, we're doing both sides of the coin here.

We're doing the squeaky fresh ones.

And of course, we're doing the deep fried ones because if there's anything that should be the alternative state motto for Wisconsin is it's we deep fried cheese here.

And maybe just maybe.

Now we're getting really controversial here.

Maybe you only like one or the other.

Maybe you're an aficionado.

I know, right?

And you only like the squeaky stuff and you think the fried stuff's gross.

Or maybe you're just not a fan of fresh curds, but boy, you deep fry those things and suddenly they got some serious flavor to them.

And your favorite doesn't have to be from the same place.

I will go ahead and say, as I've said before, Nathanville Dairy on Highway 29 near Curtis.

That's where we get a bag of curds every time for the squeaky stuff.

When we're out to dinner, if we're over at, say, Wasota Lodge on Little Lake, Wasota.

You got to get the cheese curds along with your old fashioned.

So where, where's, where's the guy got to go to get good curds here?

Let's see, uh, from Tony up at Ashland, one of our early risers.

The local has good cheese curds, but the blueberry dipping sauce is just the best.

These are deep fried, the best kind.

Parker Olson is producing this in Madison studio, a two and has a look of befuddlement on his face.

Mr. Olson, good morning.

You seem perplexed by the notion of deep fried cheese curds with blueberry dipping sauce.

Parker Olson

The blueberry dipping sauce is what's

Pat Craiglow

tripping

Parker Olson

me

Pat Craiglow

up

Parker Olson

here, yeah.

Pat Craiglow

I have not had it, but this is the second time that I have heard about it and heard that it is a nice surprise and that you should try it.

So I have got to get, I did not get up to Ashland at all this summer.

I've got to fix that and get up there to the local in Ashland.

Good cheese curds, blueberry dip and sauce.

Let's see.

Roger and Steven's point.

Goose on Main Street, GUU, apostrophe S has good ones from Alicia.

We've got fresh curds from Union Star in Fremont and fried cheese curds, Appleton beer factory in Appleton.

All right, well, that's a new one.

And Tony follows up on the blueberry dipping sauce.

It was not just blueberry.

It's very surprising.

So it's what blueberry infused, I guess you could say.

So there we go.

We've already got some answers coming in.

All to be found from our question in today's newsletter, which you can sign up for over at upnorthnewswi.com.

And of course we have our Sunday morning one as well that we invite you to subscribe to.

It has our question of the week, will the economy be better a year from now, worse a year from now, about the same a year from now?

And again, people get to answer it first, who subscribe and see that question on Sunday mornings, but we'll take your answer here as well, because I've got to tabulate them all up for this weekend's newsletter, give the results and unveil the next question of the week.

So again, between the comment sections, the app that you can use from Civic Media to call us, text us, send us a voice note.

What are your views on the economy?

One year from now, better, worse or the same?

where to get some good fresh cheese curds, where to get some good deep fried cheese curds, and anything unusual we need to know, like weird blueberry dipping sauce, maybe caught you off guard there.

So let's see, do we have Cindy and Appleton hang around here?

Let's see, Cindy, good morning, are you with us?

Cindy from Appleton (caller)

I certainly am.

Best fresh cheese curds, Simon's cheese and little chute.

And the best deep fried are Milwaukee burger companies with their Chipotle sauce.

Pat Craiglow

Oh, now Chipotle sauce.

Now we've won Parker back.

Yes, I'm back.

The blueberry he wasn't quite sure on, but you got him on these.

So give me those again, the fresh ones.

Cindy from Appleton (caller)

Diamonds cheese in little chute.

Pat Craiglow

Okay.

And the deep fried is

Cindy from Appleton (caller)

Milwaukee burger company.

Pat Craiglow

I wonder if they have is is it just the one in Appleton?

I wonder because there's one here in Eau Claire I'll bet they've got him across the board.

You've got to think so, right?

Cindy from Appleton (caller)

Oh, yeah, definitely.

Pat Craiglow

Okay.

Do you get the how often do you get the fresh ones?

Are they just like a just an occasional treat or do you get them with some regularity?

Cindy from Appleton (caller)

Yeah, it's an occasional treat or something for potluck because I don't want to eat that whole bag of them myself.

So

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that's the problem there.

Yes.

Uh, that's why when we pick them up in, in Nasonville, we still got a three hour drive to get to Sherry's parents out in Manitowoc County.

So we always have to buy two bags because it's like, here's, here's the full bag.

Otherwise you have to give them like the one that's half eaten and you don't want to do that.

So, well, Cindy, thank you for the, for the input.

I hope everybody out in the Fox Valley takes that advice to heart.

Have a great weekend.

Cindy from Appleton (caller)

You too.

Thanks.

Pat Craiglow

All right.

855-75 Civic, 855-752-4842.

We're asking about cheese curds, which I know it's a little early in the morning for it, but maybe not.

Maybe, maybe you can work some cheese curds into your scrambled eggs, perhaps.

Anyway, now that we've kind of tempted you with some cheese curd ideas, let's tell you what else is coming up on the program today.

Let's see.

Oh, I'll tell you who will not be here.

Dr. Kristen Lierly normally joins us on Fridays.

She's in Washington DC, says the place is like an armed encampment, military everywhere, and she's got meetings and can't join us.

So pinch hitting is our friend Matt Rothschild, who guests hosts all over the Civic Media Radio Network.

You know that he ran the Wisconsin Democracy Campaign for many years.

And now for Civic Media, he has the Wisconsin Forward podcast.

where he takes a particular issue unique to Wisconsin, breaks it down.

How did we get here and what ideas are there to solve it?

You can get the Wisconsin Forward podcast by heading over to civicmedia.us where you can learn more about civic media stations, all the specific shows, maybe find a new show.

There's shows that air just on the weekends like the Dr. Kristen Lierley show, for example, Saturdays at noon.

And maybe you'll find a new podcast there as well.

So civicmedia.us to get your favorite.

next new show.

Let's see, from Tony, it's important to talk about Kurds early so you don't forget about the dreams you obviously had about them, okay?

Clearly we had set the table on this one yesterday by letting you know.

It is also, we're gonna give you a quick look at the national day calendar because I couldn't get it right today, but Parker could.

Parker is resplendent in a pink Dairyland, what is the team, the Madison FC, something?

Parker Olson

Yeah, four

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Madison FC.

Okay.

The soccer team down in Madison there.

So it's a lovely thing because it is national, what is it?

Jersey day?

Jersey's day.

Yes.

Jersey day, which I thought, are you sure it's not about the cows?

Are we sure it's about the sports uniforms?

Parker Olson

I mean, it could also be about the cows.

You never know.

Pat Craiglow

Okay.

So Parker gave me a heads up saying it's national Jersey day.

If you want to wear a jersey and that's when I realized.

I don't have a jersey

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anymore because

Pat Craiglow

there's a cutoff.

There's a cutoff at some point, and now that I'm 61, I believe the cutoff is 60.

Men in their 60s...

Can't wear sports jerseys can't pull it.

You're looking too much like Uncle Rico and Napoleon Dynamite where you're just dreaming of glory days, you know Nobody's gonna mistake me for Aaron Rodgers and that was the last Jersey I had was an Aaron Rodgers Jersey He left the team.

I left the Jersey it went into a lovely pile of donations to Goodwill and it occurred to me yesterday I haven't bought a new one since for anybody and

probably won't.

So,

Parker Olson

you know,

Pat Craiglow

this packer hoodie is as close as we're going to get today.

Parker Olson

I can't remember who it is.

There's some comedian that has a joke about wearing jerseys and he's like, at what point does it become weird?

Because like when you're a kid, you're wearing a jersey and you're like looking up to this great player or whatever it is, this guy that you're older than you, you're proud of him.

Right.

And when you're older than the guy that's like you're wearing a

Kids work close.

When you're kind of the

Pat Craiglow

same age,

Parker Olson

you kind of feel

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like you're one of the team, you're one of the guys.

And at some point when the professional athletes are young enough to be your adult children, it's definitely another matter.

Tony writes on YouTube, if you're over 60, you can wear a jersey as long as you have a turtleneck and it's tucked into your jeans.

Yeah, that is definitely a sign of your age if you do that.

Let's see, from Roger and Steven's point, cousin subs, at least the Steven's point location also have good

hot, fresh cheese curds.

Alicia writes in that rational, rational revolution is on the weekends too.

And Tony says, Mark does a fantastic job for rational revolution.

So we've got that as a podcast for you to follow as well.

It is Friday, so we will have our weekend review panel that would include veteran journalists, Mark Jacob and Jennifer Schulze and former US Attorney Jim Santel.

As we always look at what legal quandary

is being, you know, flaunted now by the Trump administration.

For example, will they come through on Snap now that a judge yesterday said, no, you can't just make partial payments.

You have to pay the whole thing and you have to do it right now.

And apparently they are because the Evers administration announced that overnight they were going to make steps, take steps rather, to implement that court decision and make sure that the full November food share payments are given out to Wisconsinites across the state.

So

While I can't confirm this, theoretically the benefit cards are restocked and people can again get basic food needs for about 700,000 Wisconsinites including nearly 270,000 kids.

Hopefully that is no longer an issue.

But there's a new issue of course related to the Trump government shutdown and that would be flight cancellations because

Sean Duffy, the Transportation Secretary, has said in order to help Trump inflict maximum pain that in the interest of safety, they're going to force a 10% cancellation in flights nationwide across the nations like 30 to 40 largest airports.

So already this morning, we're closing in on a thousand flights that have already been canceled.

Twin Cities International and of course O'Hara in Chicago are among the airports facing the cuts and both Sean Duffy and Donald Trump say the pain is going to get worse.

Here's the thing.

We're going to explain this again.

It doesn't have to get worse.

It never had to get to this in the first place.

They, Trump, Duffy, Derek Van Orden, all the rest.

They have the power to help Americans to not get jerked around by health insurance companies.

The money is there to continue health insurance premium supports.

They just don't want the money to go there.

They want the money to go to tax cuts for billionaires.

Oh, and now trillionaires.

The headline in the New York Times, Elon Musk wins a $1 trillion pay package from Tesla.

This is what they want.

They want all the rich guys, the Ron Johnson's and the other multi-millionaires in Congress and the lackeys like Derek Van Orden who went from shining boots to licking them.

This is what they want.

A trillionaire proves that they too can get fabulously wealthy someday.

Where's it come from?

The money that you paid in taxes and is not any longer going to affordable health care or paying air traffic controllers.

We're going to talk about this week's elections next with Courier Newsroom's Keva Keel and my colleague Sean Kitchen from Courier's The Keystone in Pennsylvania.

From the heart of America's up north, live from Lake Wissota, thanks for making this the place to spend part of your mornings.

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Pat Craiglow

started.

Good morning, Pat.

I am well.

I'm glad it's Friday.

I'm glad it's Friday, but it's been a good week for Friday, and we've got company this time.

Another one of my courier newsroom colleagues, Sean Kitchen, from the Keystone State.

Oh, that's the name of the publication, the Keystone.

Sean, good morning.

How are you?

I'm doing great, Pat.

How are you?

Doing good.

I mean, you've had one busy week there, and so we're going to talk to you about Supreme Court races.

and billionaires, something we know about here in Wisconsin in just a minute.

But Kiel, let's start with you first.

You're just your general overview.

Now that we're a couple of days removed so that maybe we don't read too much into this, or should we read a lot into it because it was a big statement?

Keva Keel

Yeah, I mean, I think it's, you know, I think the, it was a big statement.

I mean, I think everyone thought the environment generally favored Democrats, but I don't know that even the most optimistic

Democrat or operative would have said that Abigail Spanberger would win by 15 points in Virginia or that Mikey Cheryl would win by last I looked I think it was 13 points in New Jersey

or that Virginia Democrats would flip 13 seats in the House of Delegates, or that they'd win two statewide races in Georgia.

And just, you know, up and down the line all across the country, obviously, you saw Zoran Mamdani win the New York mayoral race, which was not necessarily unexpected, but, you know, doing so impressively amid an onslaught of spending against him and just, you know,

an insane amount of right-wing propaganda, fear-mongering.

You just saw the Democratic candidates win, whether they were from the more moderate wing or from the more leftist progressive wing.

It was a complete bloodbath for Republicans, especially when you look more granularly at the local level, which I think Sean will get into in a minute.

But anywhere you look, it was just a total bloodbath.

You bet.

Pat Craiglow

And Sean, this is not to take anything away from all of that.

But, you know, as we look at each of these individual races, of course, like Kia said, there are granular things there as well.

And it certainly caught my eye in Pennsylvania that you had state Supreme Court justices up for reelection.

And when I read that, you know, like a single billionaire was trying to take down these progressive justices,

I had to learn more.

Tell me about the billionaire and the races.

How did this all get going?

Sean Kitchen

We had three justices all for retention this year.

And the way Pennsylvania has it with our Supreme Court race is judges get elected to tenure terms in Pennsylvania.

And then after their 10th year, they have a yes or no retention vote to face another 10-year term.

And we had three democratic Supreme Court justices win in 2015 that flipped control of the court.

And with that, Democrats were able to control the gerrymandering process or the redistricting process here in Pennsylvania.

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And it

Sean Kitchen

was able to really break insanely, insanely Republican gerrymanders in the best house and in the state legislature.

So.

With that in mind, we have a billionaire here in Pennsylvania.

His name is Jeffrey Yass.

He's worth about like $65.7 billion because he is the largest investor in TikTok, the largest American investor in TikTok.

And his main reason why he's involved in politics is basically to undermine public education and promote charter schools and vouchers.

Pat Craiglow

But then there was essentially mobilization effort.

First you had to recognize this is what was happening and then there were, it sounds to me like there are people and groups pretty much dedicated just to watch this guy.

Sean Kitchen

Yes.

There are progressive organizations, coalitions in the state, working families party, like at Justice, wide-ranging groups from like 1PA, working families party, and then you have environmental organizations that are involved in tracking this guy's spending and raising awareness of how much money he's spending.

on a year-to-year basis.

He has spent somewhere of close like 80 or 90 million dollars in Pennsylvania races since 2018, which is just an insane amount to think about.

And that money goes to anyone running for statewide offices, governor, attorney general, the auditor general, all the way down to state reps and school board members.

Pat Craiglow

but you were able to follow it, expose it.

We are certainly no strangers to that in Wisconsin with Dick and Liz Eline from the Uline Company, you know, Wisconsin billionaires who now live in the Chicago area, Diane Hendricks from ABC Supply in Beloit, certainly John Menard.

Another billionaire here has made political inroads with his donations.

So Kia, now that having heard what Sean and Pennsylvania voters did, we know how billionaires have spent lavishly in

Wisconsin, we managed to stave off Elon Musk with the last state Supreme Court race.

But can the success in Pennsylvania be replicated again in 2026 with this kind of observation, public observation of what billionaires are doing?

Keva Keel

Yeah, I think so.

I mean, I think you see

Voters of all stripes really, really hate how much billionaires fund our elections.

And look, it happens for both parties.

But on the right, it really happens in a way that's particularly nefarious, because you have these, like Jeffrey asked, you have these people who want to decimate public schools, who want.

religious charter schools or charter schools to get vouchers, using public funding to pay for private school tuition.

You have folks who have all sorts of self-interested projects and they donate to get those projects off the ground.

I think we'll see more of that in 26 until we get actual, you know...

Citizens United overturned until we get actual campaign spending limits.

This isn't going to go away.

We're seeing it in Michigan and Texas.

I'm certain we'll see it in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania next year.

I think you'll see probably the most expensive Senate race in US history next year in North Carolina.

It's going to be a complete, just a firehose of money.

Pat Craiglow

Oh, absolutely.

And, you know, no disrespect toward a better Wisconsin together, Wisconsin democracy campaign, the others that have been trying to call attention to this big money.

But I think you need an even more focused effort, just to let voters know about these great big checkbooks that are out there trying to buy our elections to read more about how they did it in Pennsylvania.

And Sean Kitchen's reporting head over to Keystone newsroom.com.

And of course, key of the keel over at career newsroom.com.

Gentlemen, thank you very much.

I appreciate

the inside.

Have a great weekend.

You too.

Thank you.

We've got today's history lesson coming up right after this.

I'm Pac Rightlow.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

The history lesson begins with a little Johnny Rivers.

Greg Bach

Sounds like you got rivers to me.

Pat Craiglow

Yep.

A little rockin' pneumonia, a little boogie woogie flu for Johnny Rivers birthday today number 83.

For him, happy birthday to him, to music legend, Joni Mitchell, who is 82 years old today, and not yet a music legend, Ella Yelich O'Connor, otherwise known as Lord.

She's 29 years old today.

Welcome to today's history lesson.

It's Friday.

It means we welcome in to wild applause, Greg Bach.

Ladies and gentlemen, Greg Bach.

Greg Bach

Hi, everybody.

Hello.

Happy Friday.

Pat Craiglow

That was a rousing round of applause there for you.

Greg Bach

Anyway, how are you?

I'm doing well.

It's Lord's birthday.

Really fun fact about that.

I went to see Lord in concert many years ago because the rap group Run the Jewels was opening for her.

And I had no idea who Lord was outside of the one song.

And as soon as the lights went out for her set to begin,

It was I realized I was surrounded by a basketball arena full of girls between the ages of 14 and 17 Yes, I said to my friend I feel like we're at a slumber party.

We shouldn't be at right now I was I felt so weird.

I'm like there's I feel I feel like people probably think I'm a cop

Pat Craiglow

But

Greg Bach

isn't

Pat Craiglow

that quite the nice surprise that you know somebody is an up-and-comer when they're

Greg Bach

the

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opening act, but a whole bunch of fans show up?

That happened to me once at a... I want to say...

Was it Bonnie Rait or somebody else, or Mary Chapin Carpenter, whatever it was?

And the Baudin's were opening up.

And the Baudin's were just kind of ascendant, and the crowd was mostly Baudin's fans at that point, which

Greg Bach

was pretty cool.

It was a fun show.

We stayed for about 10 minutes.

I'm like, I think we can go, right?

We can go.

We can go.

We can go.

And we went.

Pat Craiglow

Yeah.

Wow.

Well, speaking of Ms.

Rait, she turns 76 years old tomorrow.

Just another one of those albums.

I don't know why you don't have it in your collection yet.

Go get Nikitime.

Just do.

Greg Bach

Pat loves to talk about Nikitime Parker.

He loves that record.

He thinks it's a perfect record.

Pat Craiglow

It's a perfect record.

I feel like 76

Greg Bach

years old today for

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money.

Chef Gordon Ramsay is 59 years old tomorrow.

59 for Gordon Ramsay.

I again, just every so often a birthday comes up and I go, well, I look younger than that guy.

I also didn't spend my life in a high pressure kitchen, you know, throwing knives at people.

So I can see where that would.

Greg Bach

He just sits in his couch and does that.

Pat Craiglow

Yeah.

Greg Bach

I hate the TV.

It's terrible programming.

Pat Craiglow

I don't even know that I've ever actually watched a program with Gordon Ramsay.

Really?

Maybe maybe.

bit of one, but maybe not entirely.

So definitely, I'm not saying I don't like him.

I'm just saying I've never been like a fan or would either one of you call yourself a regular viewer of whatever it is he does?

Parker Olson

I go on like a kick here and there of watching a bunch of stuff of him like kitchen nightmares.

I would watch a little bit of, particularly like in high school at some point.

I did that a lot.

Pat Craiglow

Mm-hmm Tony's Gordon Ramsay 59 with the rage of a three-year-old.

Yes, we that is his claim to fame here Let's see.

Happy birthday to am I gonna say this right this year last year?

I think I said see ya instead of scissor, but scissor is 35 years old today

Cindy from Appleton (caller)

I

Greg Bach

was going to say, because Sia's a whole different person.

Pat Craiglow

It's whole different.

Whole different.

You can't mix those up.

There's

Greg Bach

a Sia.

Yeah.

This is Siza.

Yes.

Pat Craiglow

And this is Kill Bill.

Number three on the list of bestselling songs of 2023.

Wow.

And Native of St.

Louis and has had five Grammy nominations so far.

And I would not be surprised if there were more down the road.

On this day in 1943,

was the last scoreless tie in the NFL.

Final score, the Detroit Lions 0, the New York Giants 0.

Now it was the 73rd time that an NFL game ended in a 0-0 tie, but there have been no 0-0 ties since 1943.

I feel

Greg Bach

like when the Packers had that tie a few like a month ago or so.

I feel like I got led into a world I had no idea about when it comes to the NFL and ties and over time.

And it's like, it should just be play five more minutes.

Whoever has more after that, they weigh and go home.

Don't.

This is very convoluted and weird.

Pat Craiglow

Yes.

I mean, ties are just, I mean, I'm really glad the NHL added the shootout.

It was, it was very tough to walk away from a hockey game and go.

That's it, one to one, zero, zero.

Parker Olson

They should do that with football.

They should have the kickers go out and see how far they can kick from.

Pat Craiglow

Or at least just take up the college rule.

The college rule, you can play that back and forth over and over again until somebody gets a genuine score.

Greg Bach

Yeah, and I used to be too.

It used to be whoever scored first.

That was it done.

We're going home.

Yes.

Well, that was

Pat Craiglow

unfair, though.

That

Greg Bach

was I don't like that either.

Pat Craiglow

No, no.

Let's see.

Oh, I've got reaction here from Luke Mathers, who says, Pat, you would love Gordon Ramsay shows.

His snark has an accent.

He's brutal to folks and really sweet to kids on Masterchef Junior.

True.

I feel like maybe he is a kindred spirit with me after all.

Tony writes on YouTube, college over time is the best over time.

I'm still going to say hockey shootouts, but yes, college football definitely has a better over time than the pros.

Greg Bach

We are going to introduce hockey shootouts to the NCAA football season next year.

We don't know how it will work, but trust us.

With a hockey stick, you've got to get that

Pat Craiglow

football through the upper age.

You've got to happy Gilmore, that thing.

Greg Bach

If we can put 38 teams in the Big 10, we can do anything we want.

There you go.

Pat Craiglow

On this day in 1981, the number one hit was by Holland Oats.

Such rhythm we have here that was their third number one hit after a rich girl and kiss on my lips They would later hit the top of the charts with I can't go for that man-eater and out of touch, but this one was from 1981 on this day in 1805 the Lewis and Clark expedition reached the Pacific Ocean at the mouth of the Columbia River 18 months after it had set off from near St.

Louis

Greg Bach

And Lewis Lewis turned to Clark shrugged his shoulders and go, that it?

All right.

Pat Craiglow

Yeah.

All right.

Let's go back.

And the thing is they did they go they then they went all the way back because what else are you going to do at that

Greg Bach

point?

So if shop here,

Pat Craiglow

let's see on this day in 1983, the Rolling Stones released their 19th studio album.

The title track is still one of my favorite Rolling Stones songs undercover.

This is forgive the cliche, but this is one of those songs.

We're not doing any justice.

The only way to play undercover of the night by the Stones is on 11.

There's just no other way to look.

You can't just I'm just gonna listen to it really soft in the background.

No, no, can't do it.

On this day in 1967, President Lyndon Johnson signed a bill establishing the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

RIP.

Yes, how we've come I've got I've got plenty of other political notes here in just a bit because it's November and there's a lot of election days So stick around for that.

But first another song this day in 1987 The number one hit was a remake of a Tommy James and the Chandels tune by an up-and-coming 16 year old named Tiffany

On this day in 1913, you talk about the gales of November.

We're going to be talking about the Edmund Fitzgerald a lot on Monday.

But on this day in 1913 in November, a Great Lake storm later nicknamed the White Hurricane brought 90 mile an hour winds and 35 foot waves over a three day period.

The storm would sink 19 ships, damage 19 more, more than 250 lives lost as a result.

on this day in 19, I'm sorry, 1922, the anniversary of the birth of trumpet player Al Hurt.

And everybody has heard some kind of an Al Hurt diddy at some point in their lives.

This

Greg Bach

unqualifies as wacky.

Pat Craiglow

I just think now I was like,

background music or, you know, it's something that you'd put behind the Muppets or something.

Greg Bach

And yet

Pat Craiglow

this was like a big hit in 1963 for Al Hurt, who was nicknamed the round mound of sound.

Greg Bach

Can you can you bring it up just a little bit, Parker?

Just a tiny bit.

I want to try some right here.

You've reached Morrison Dental.

Thank you for your call.

If this is

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an

Greg Bach

emergency, please dial 911 immediately.

There he is.

Okay, cool.

Parker Olson

Yep.

It feels like the back music to Tom and Jerry I feel like I'm supposed to watch a mouse and a cat

Greg Bach

fight It warms my heart that Parker just made it Tom and Jerry

Parker Olson

I

Greg Bach

know I know look Okay

Pat Craiglow

coming along

Greg Bach

we are aging him Park Parker that was not an insult.

I was not making fun.

Parker Olson

I know that see your

Greg Bach

body tense stuff right there

No, no, no.

I'm happy about that.

Parker Olson

I am too.

Oh, thank you, Greg.

Um, yesterday I went out to lunch with Zomers and Tom and Jerry was on one of the TVs and we were having a great time watching.

Pat Craiglow

I would like to have seen that.

I'd be like walking into a daycare center, but for young adult men who still like cartoons, because I'm one of them.

I mean, not the young part anymore, but I'd sit and watch Tom and Jerry for an hour.

We were upset that it was the new version because the animation

Parker Olson

doesn't look as

Pat Craiglow

good.

That's right.

That's right.

Parker Olson

You got

Pat Craiglow

to go

Parker Olson

with the classics.

And there was a Scooby-Doo on after.

I wanted to stay there all day.

Pat Craiglow

And someday you will.

We call that retirement.

And then you get your applesauce.

They're getting all that ready for me right now at Shady Acres.

And one day you can.

Greg Bach

They're hiring.

Pat Craiglow

All right.

Lots of early November election notes to pass along.

It was on this day in 2000.

Al Gore.

got more votes than George W. Bush, but nobody knew what was going on in Florida.

All we had was NBC's Tim Russert.

First to note on his little whiteboard where he wrote, Florida, Florida, Florida.

And

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boy,

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did that turn out to be the key.

On that same day, First Lady Hillary Clinton became the first woman to win elected office while First Lady.

On this day in 1916, Jeanette Rankin of Montana became the first woman elected to Congress.

Now a little deja vu on this day in 2017.

It was Trump's first year in office of his first term and Democrats dominated winning the governor's races in Virginia, New Jersey and elsewhere deja vu.

And then in 2020, it was this day was four days after election day when Joe Biden was about to be declared the winner over Trump and Rudy Giuliani held the infamous Trump campaign press conference.

at the Four Seasons.

No, not that Four Seasons, not the hotel.

Four Seasons Total Landscaping in Philadelphia.

I

Greg Bach

bought a t-shirt.

When that happened four seasons at the right thing, they leaned in and took advantage.

I bought a t-shirt from them.

It was amazing.

It

Pat Craiglow

was the best.

It really was.

Seeing Pam Bondi and some of the others just standing there, it was, I mean, that was just chef's kiss for political theater.

I mean, what more could you want?

All right, we've only got time for just a quick national day calendar thing.

We mentioned this national jersey day.

I don't have a jersey.

It's why I've got the packer.

hoodie and Greg we didn't tell you've got jerseys yes

Greg Bach

I've got jerseys I've got I just I just washed a bunch of my brewers jerseys there at home right now not being warned for Jersey Day thank you someone I shall lodge a complaint

Pat Craiglow

Still to come, it is our Week in Review panel, which includes former U.S.

Attorney Jim Santel.

And why is that important from the National Day calendar, Parker?

It's Love Your Lawyer Day.

It's National Love Your Lawyer Day.

So we're going to share some love for Jim Santel and all that he does for us here at the Civic Media Radio Network.

I'm Pat Krightlo.

You're up north.

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Find the latest news, information, and archives of all your favorite shows on the Civic Media website, civicmedia.us.

Pat Craiglow

Welcome back.

It's a Friday morning, November 7th, 652 right now at Crite Low here in Chippewa Falls.

Parker Olson in Madison and Greg Bach joining us from Radio Park in Racine and from the the mailbag here we were talking earlier about this being National Jersey Day the shirt not the animal and Leif puts up here on YouTube

Grownups don't wear jerseys, but no one really likes grownups.

I have no interest in being one whatsoever.

Alicia

Greg Bach

puts up everywhere.

Pat Craiglow

It says, hey, I'm 41 and planning to get a Navy jersey for the Army Navy game.

And you go.

Absolutely.

I mean.

You're, you're in the Navy, you know, you're a veteran.

You get to wear that as much as you want.

And let's see, I had one on the text line here as well from Jim and Brookfield.

Good morning, Pat.

Thank you for being a voice of reason regarding sports jersey protocol.

Yes, there is a pastor shelf life look to older men in jerseys.

When I hit the six, so I gave away the jerseys got on my bike and rode 60 miles.

It was time to turn over a new leaf.

Greg Bach

Wait, okay.

Oh, all right.

Hold on a second.

I feel like I, I feel like I missed a part of the conversation here.

It happened earlier in the show.

Yeah.

Yes.

Pat Craiglow

That I don't have a jersey anymore.

When Parker mentioned to me, but apparently not to you, that it's National Jersey Day.

And I thought, I wonder.

Did I still have that?

I had an Aaron Rodgers jersey,

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but

Pat Craiglow

I was pretty sure I got rid of it when when Rodgers left and I did as it turned out.

So that's why I've got a Packer hoodie on.

It's the next best thing.

But I made the point that I also feel like.

60 is you look silly now with, uh, if you're, if you're wearing a sports jersey and Jim and Brookfield is simply saying, yeah, when he turned 60, he really turned over a new leaf.

He got rid of his jersey.

He, he went biking 60 miles to, you know, try to get, you know, stay healthy and good for him on all those things.

I just know that not everybody agrees that, you

Greg Bach

know, I

Pat Craiglow

kid, I can never wear a jersey again.

And that's really what it comes down to.

It really is all about me.

Greg is, can I wear a jersey again at my age?

Greg Bach

I was going to say something, but you just wouldn't stop talking.

Actually, honestly, it was just going and going and going on this topic.

I'm just kidding.

I love you very much.

No, I don't.

I disagree.

I think you can wear a jersey whenever you want.

It's fine.

If you are a 60 year old trying to wear a jersey to your professional job, then we need to have a chat.

But if it's Sunday and you're enjoying the day and you're doing some yard work, you got your jersey on, I think that's fine.

I don't think there's anything I have never in my life heard anyone make this claim that at a certain age, you can't wear jerseys.

I think Pat, if

You want to wear a jersey?

You wear a jersey.

I understand why you got rid of the Aaron Rodgers jersey because I wonder whether

Pat Craiglow

to get one for love.

And there's Tony on YouTube saying never too old for love.

Couldn't agree more, Tony.

But I think he needs the jersey.

I feel

Parker Olson

like it depends on which sport we're talking about.

Like the baseball jersey?

It

Pat Craiglow

depends when we're talking about a guy in their 60s, please.

Our wardrobes are tough enough as

Greg Bach

they are.

I think the baseball jersey is the most acceptable.

Remember when they tried to go after the, the youthier market by getting like professional athletes?

And I think Clay Matthews was a spokesman for Depends for a moment.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, and that's, and by the way, that's not me laughing at people who need that.

If you need that, that's your life.

And I support your journey.

Do your thing.

I'm just saying, I was just like, man, they're trying to, I've never seen, I've never seen them go after the youth market.

Pat Craiglow

No, but things happen, especially when you get to an age where you use this line that you never thought you'd use.

Oh, you see that urologist too.

Greg Bach

Great, great.

Thank you.

I've heard good things about him.

Pat Craiglow

Let's see now John and Oshkosh.

Oh, he takes a point of view here to me wearing a jersey is not as bad as wearing a cheese head though real Packer fans don't wear cheese heads.

Oh That was a take.

Greg Bach

Do you feel like John's trying to pick a fight right now?

Pat Craiglow

I I like it.

I'm here for it.

Maybe maybe there are people that are

I mean, we're just so used to it.

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Yeah.

Maybe

Pat Craiglow

he's the one who's first coming up to go, maybe this has run its course and we don't need to wear silly pieces of cheese on our head.

Now, I don't agree, but maybe, maybe they're more like John and he was just brave enough to say it first.

Or John is in for a mountain of derision after this.

Either way, we'll see who writes in and calls it.

Greg Bach

I love that word, derision.

Pat Craiglow

Oh,

Greg Bach

thank you.

Oh,

Pat Craiglow

Tony, that was a squeaky hot take.

Thank you, Tony.

Greg Bach

Very well done.

I personally feel like when it comes to the cheese hat, it's like, I would wear one in a package game for a little bit, then I'd probably hand it off to me like, here, you can wear this.

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But

Greg Bach

also, it's a thing of we can do it.

But the moment you use a cheese hat as a point of making fun of us, that's when it's on and I'm not happy.

Because I'm like, we're more than that.

You know that.

Take that off.

You don't understand.

That's right.

Pat Craiglow

One more note on the National Day calendar.

This is National Cancer Awareness Day.

And to that end, Greg and I, the official spokesman for men's health on civic media, the ones who talked to all of you into getting a CPAP machine when the time is right for you, are here on the Cancer Awareness Front.

Hey, Greg, anything on your calendar coming

Greg Bach

up?

This week and I begin my prep as of today.

I forget per start my prep for my colonoscopy on Monday.

So

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I'll be

Greg Bach

getting my screening because it's time.

I'm in an age where the doc says time for you to do that.

I said, absolutely.

Let's do this.

I got the weird liquid at home.

Gonna start doing that on Sunday and everyone keeps on saying you'll be fine.

I'm like, I know I'll be fine.

It's not scared.

Pat Craiglow

No,

Greg Bach

no,

Parker Olson

I'm here for it.

Let's do this.

I'm terribly sorry.

I'm terribly sorry for what you're about to go through, though.

Pat Craiglow

No,

Parker Olson

no, no, no,

Pat Craiglow

you're no you're asleep.

I've had I've had

Parker Olson

I

Pat Craiglow

had mine recently and They are they are extremely important and the prep is just what it is

Greg Bach

Everybody's

Pat Craiglow

everybody's had the stomach flu before and it's not even quite like that.

Greg Bach

So I'm not I'm not worried about it.

I'm not scared about it I'm I'm the only thing I am Has it not hesitant but just have nerves over is doing everything correctly as far as the diet from today till Monday doing the prep correct

exactly, making sure that I don't walk in there and they say, well, you didn't do it right.

So get out and we're still going to charge you.

Pat Craiglow

Yes.

Uh, and that's, you know, uh, one of Sherry's frustrations is you, you prep for a surgery and then they come in and say, Oh, the patient didn't know and they had a piece of toast or something.

It's like, no, it's right there.

Don't eat or drink anything, not even toast, you know?

Oh yeah.

So yes, you're, you are right to follow the directions and to be a good compliant patient.

Uh, we'll hear more about this on Matt Nair on air.

Probably not that, but other, other cooler stuff with Greg Bach and Jane McNair, uh, who had that big news retirement, well-deserved after all these years.

So tune in to Jane and Greg today, nine to 11.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you very much.

My friends, always wonderful

Greg Bach

talking

Pat Craiglow

to you.

It's

Greg Bach

always great

Pat Craiglow

to have a good weekend.

Coming up next, we will have our weekend review panel.

Of course, I'm Pat Crite low from up North news, and this is the civic media radio network.

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