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Van Orden: We Don’t Deserve the Majority (Hour 1)
Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Thu Oct 30, 2025
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Now, for my Lake Minnesota studio, here is the founding editor of Up North News, Pat Crichtlow.
Good morning.
It is 6.06 on a Thursday morning, October 30th, 2025, October 30th.
Happy birthday to my oldest daughter.
It means I've been a parent for years.
She said that age now you can't say that my eight year old daughter my 10 year old daughter now it's my 30 something daughter.
So happy birthday.
It's another beautiful morning to have you here up north live from Lake Wissota from wherever you're listening to cross the civic media radio network spending your mornings right here as we get set for Halloween just one day away.
November just two days away.
I got a question for you.
Do you trust Joe Namath to sell you health insurance or
Jimmy Walker, remember JJ Walker from Good Times or William Shatner from Star Trek or some of the other, you know, D list celebrities that are in these ads for health insurance through something called Medicare Advantage.
If you're, you know, say under 50, you probably don't think about this at all.
You probably don't notice the commercials one bit.
But if you have a parent that is approaching, you know 65 or a few yourself are getting there and you're starting to pay attention to this kind of stuff like I am in my impending elderliness and with a parent who just turned 80 and is looking at a Medicare Advantage plan that she'd had for years and Is now being canceled and so she and a whole bunch of other Seniors around the country have to find new Medicare Advantage plans.
I mean everybody has to do a lot of homework real fast
So we've got an expert coming in today to talk about that at 735.
And she'll tell us all about, you know, what, what to look for in Medicare.
Now, let me back up a second here, because I don't blame you if you don't know what the Medicare advantage.
Medicare, the actual Medicare, the thing that got set up back in the 60s, all right, was to make sure you've paid your taxes all your life, all your working years.
And when you turn 65, your health care is just taken care of by and large.
Well, somewhere along the line, some politicians allowed regular old insurance companies to sneak in there and offer their own plans and call it Medicare Advantage, even though it is nothing like regular Medicare.
And the problem is, once you decide to go with one of those plans, it's tough to go back to original Medicare and you're suddenly trapped in that web that you thought you got rid of when you retired and you could just get regular Medicare.
So we're going to talk about the difference between regular Medicare versus these Medicare Advantage plans.
They do have some pun intended advantages.
But the disadvantages are something you really ought to consider before you put your name on the dotted lines on place.
So stick around for that.
That's coming up.
We will also be talking to Sean O'Malley about your money in the markets.
I got five trillion reasons for you to be concerned about a stock market bubble, because we hear all about, you know, how the stock market is going great guns right now.
So the economy must be great.
No, it's not.
It's not.
There is such a bubble brewing in AI right now and Sean O'Malley is going to help share some of the warning signs with us.
So that's coming up along the way as well.
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There's a lot fewer leaves here along Lake Wissota right now.
Parker Olson joining us from Madison Studio A2.
We're out imagining the leaves have been falling fast and furious by you as well.
Yeah, we're getting there rapidly.
So I'm hoping for decent weather this weekend because then it's just going to be me and a leaf blower.
Then you hear it all throughout the neighborhood because raking, raking stinks if you've got more than a postage size, postage stamp size lawn.
So if you
And no, no, no.
But they do after a while.
It's like, okay, this is getting old.
Can we do something?
It's about speed.
more than actually about power or hands or anything else.
It's like, can we get this chore done with already?
Especially if I mean, it's one thing if you've if you've got little kids, I remember having to rake all the leaves in a pile and the kids jump in.
Oh, it's fun.
It really is.
But at some point, you don't have that anymore.
And you're just like, Oh, let's just get these out of here.
You know, and you know, preferably in my case, down the down the bank, you know, close to the lake.
But because I like both my neighbors on either side, but there have been years
in the past with different neighbors.
Oh, it's like, oh, oh, no, the wind was suddenly out of the east.
I don't know how that happened.
Oh, well.
Oops.
Oops.
So that's Jim.
Look at look at me making trouble on the street here already.
Let's see.
We we also have well, you pay attention to the YAC.
The
Plattville from the YAC was the opponent for the Wisconsin Badgers in this year's Guarding Against Cancer Classic.
I might have the name wrong on that, but you know, the Guard brothers were coaches, the respective coaches at Madison and Plattville.
And how did I assume the Badger men prevailed in this instance?
The Badgers did win.
I don't think it was as pretty as they wanted it to be.
Here it is.
69 53 Badgers over Platteville.
Final tune up game for the Badgers before their season begins next Monday against, of course, the fighting camels of Campbell University.
Downright.
I'm never I'm never going to take seriously unless, of course, the Badgers managed to lose next Monday.
Then it's a whole different thing.
But Badgers begin the regular season next week.
And you said what you said, what Platteville actually put up a bit of a fight.
I believe so.
Yeah, I think I read
I mean, there was the one year, you know, they rotate schools and one year it was UW Eau Claire and we went down to Madison to see the blue golds play, you know, the Badgers and of course the Badgers ultimately prevailed.
But you get that false sense of security when the Badgers are just kind of doing their rope and rope strategy and just letting, you know, seeing what the other team has got.
So I'm sure the Platteville fans enjoyed that.
But yes, in the end, ultimately, the Badger men were victorious as were the Toronto Blue Jays.
Yeah,
Yes.
Roots for Toronto and tomorrow night's game.
The Dodgers looked so quiet last night in the parts that I saw the ones where we're watching the Brewers going
Come on, guys.
Come on, guys.
Come on, guys.
And you could just, they kept doing cutaways of the crowd, the Dodger crowd, just all looking like, come on, guys.
Come on, guys.
Anytime, guys.
And it was like, it was like, they just, they ran out of gas.
They're just done.
Now, can they, can they pull off one game, much less two in Canada?
Sure, it's possible.
I mean, we've seen that lineup.
We see what it can do.
But at this point, Toronto definitely has the momentum and
That would that would be all right with us.
They
Yeah, we can do that.
Let's see one news clip to tell you about and then we're gonna hear from Sharita Booker as we talk about weekend events that you might consider attending at points around Wisconsin this weekend.
But as the government shutdown drags on, and we look back at the record of what some of these folks in Congress have had to say.
you know, in the past about government shutdowns and budgets and things like that, something really grabbed our attention from Western Wisconsin Congressman Derek Van Orden, who, like others, tries to do this job of pretending to be a moderate, pretending to call out the right wing of his party, when in fact he is a, you know, dues paying member of the right wing of his party.
But he was on something called the John Frederick Show in December of last year.
So they knew they were about to take control of Congress.
Donald Trump had just won the presidential election.
They were going to have the House and the Senate and the White House.
And this is what Congressman Derek Van Orden had to say about being in the majority and therefore they
were able to pass a budget.
They were going to do whatever it is they wanted to do.
And if they couldn't get their stuff together, well, then by gum, they, you know, they should pay a price for that.
Listen to what Derek Van Horten had to say.
When we have unified government, I'll be very clear about this.
When we have unified government, if we cannot get our 12 appropriations bills through in a budget, then we don't deserve to be in the majority any longer.
We don't.
You know, I don't sugarcoat anything.
And I'll take the paint off anybody that
is talking smack about these sorts of things.
That includes members of my own party.
So a lot of the reasons you got to understand that we didn't get a lot of things done was because of members of the Republican Party.
Some of our far right guys held things up in the rules committee.
They voted against rules if the rule passed and they prevented a lot of these measures getting through.
So that's true.
The other side of the coin is anything we do has to get through the Senate, which was controlled by
Chuck Schumer, it still is until we get through January.
So I'll say that again real clear.
When we have unified government, if we can't get our 12 appropriations bills through and a budget passed, then we do not deserve to be in the majority
I'm Derek Van Orden, and I approve this message.
There game set match from Derek Van Orden himself.
If they can't get their 12 appropriations bills because if you don't know the background, there isn't like one federal budget bill.
It's broken up into pieces called appropriations bills.
There's 12 of them total.
Some pass ahead of others because some need more debate, etc, etc.
They can't do any of that.
They passed the one big bloated boondoggle because it wasn't a full federal budget.
It was just a roadmap of, you know, trillions of dollars in cuts to make to give tax cuts to the very wealthy.
Big time cuts in Medicaid and in SNAP SNAP benefits are going to run out this weekend Even though they don't have to because there's a multi-billion dollar contingency fund That the Trump administration is refusing to use they actually want families to go hungry to put pressure on Democrats to cave in and let Republicans jack up health insurance costs under the Affordable Care Act
And Derek Van Orden is telling you, well, once we're in control, if we can't get those appropriations bills passed, if we are that dysfunctional, we should not be in the majority.
So that's an interesting bit of audio that that is not the last time you're going to hear that played.
That basically is the 2026 message about how the Republicans have done in Washington so far.
Temperatures in Wisconsin range from 23 in Merrill to 43 in Door County.
It's 34 in Wasaw, 37 in Oshkosh, 34 in La Crosse, and 27 degrees here in the Chippewa Valley.
Sherita Booker tells us about trains, wine, and lizards for weekend events all after the break.
I'm Pat Crightlow.
This is the Civic Media Radio Network.
Sharita Booker is here, social media manager for UpNorth News.
And well, we're going to throw a little curve at you.
Sharita, first off, good morning.
How are you?
Good morning.
I'm good.
How are you?
Good.
Good.
We normally talk about events that are coming up this weekend that you might like to attend.
But we've discovered something else you might like to attend.
Your local culvers for something brand new that they're offering.
What did you tell me they're about to offer?
And so you say that they're doing mac and cheese or I'm sorry, cheese and mac and I see that it's going to be, you know, just their pasta in a creamy Wisconsin cheddar cheese sauce topped with extra shredded cheddar cheese.
And I'm in because as I've said, several times before, there are a lot of other places, Michigan, Texas, I don't other places where mac and cheese as a side is like a real staple.
You don't see it quite as
much around Wisconsin.
And so if Culver's wants to add mac and cheese, however limited, I'm in.
I'll go.
Right.
Well, we'll have to come back with reviews.
Yeah, exactly.
So when does this get started?
November 3rd.
November 3rd.
Okay, well, there we go.
So next week, we'll we'll have to do a food review.
See how this works out.
Alright, so pardon that little detour.
Let's get back to this weekend's events here.
Starting with train fest.
There's a guy whose dad worked on the Chicago Northwestern Railroad for many years.
I am totally in on this.
Tell us more.
Yeah, so if you or someone in your house is into trains like Pat, or you really like seeing cool setups, Train Fest is coming back to Milwaukee this Saturday and Sunday at the Barrett Center downtown.
They're gonna have more than 50 operating train displays, hands-on demos, and a bunch of the major model railroad manufacturers and dealers all in one place.
There's also a mini diorama circus activity if you wanna try building something small, and they also got a free riding train for the kids.
So if you've been thinking about starting a layout, or you've got a kid who loves trains,
trains, this is the spot.
Kids 12 and under getting free with an adult, which is nice.
Adults tickets are $18.95 for Saturday and $13.95 for Sunday, or you can do a two day pass for 20 bucks.
Tickets are on sale now.
Just search trainfest Milwaukee for more info.
And, uh, you know, we were, we were just a little too limited in our means to do that.
And I always appreciated it.
You'd think it's, it would be one, maybe it's my retirement project.
I'm yeah.
I'm going to have room in the garage or the basement or something.
Sherry, if you're listening, we'll talk later.
And
The Scaled Up Reptile Expo is happening this Sunday at the Madison Marriott West in Middleton.
It's a family friendly event where you can see thousands of snakes, lizards, frogs, tortoises, turtles, and tarantulas all under one roof.
You can talk with experienced breeders and keepers, learn how to care for different species, and check out setups if you've been thinking about getting a new pet or upgrading your enclosure.
They also have a bunch of reptile keeping supplies, feeder insects, frozen feeders, supplements, decor, plants, and more.
Admission is $14 if you want to get an early for VIP at 10 a.m.
Original admission is $7 and runs from 11 to 3 and kids 5 and under getting free So for more information visit scaled up expose comm slash Madison dash wi Okay, so where are you on reptiles?
It's no for me.
The only reptile that I like is a gecko.
They're cute, but I'm scared of stuff like that
I mean I wouldn't
rush out to get a snake or a lizard or a frog or a tarantula myself.
I remember going to somebody's house and this was only a couple of years back.
So these are like grown adults and their basement was filled with aquariums that were filled with larger snakes.
And that was just not my jam at all.
But
Yep.
Only Sunday.
And you'll spend the afternoon walking around downtown, stopping in the different shops and sampling wine at nearly 30 different participating spots along the way.
It's a really laid back way to explore the area and you get to support local businesses while you're at it.
Tickets are $45, which covers your wine samples, a souvenir glass, snacks and a map of the stops and a few discounts at participating shops.
If you're just tagging along and don't plan a drink, they have a designated driver ticket for 20 bucks and that includes craft sodas and snacks.
Proceeds from the benefit.
goes to downtown Lake Geneva Mural program.
So they, so the money goes right back into the community and into more public art downtown.
And just to heads up, the wine walk always sells out.
So if you want to get your tickets, do it ASAP.
You need to be 21 or older and you'll check in at the bottle shop on Main Street to get your glass and lanyard.
Get your tickets at downtownlakejeneva.org slash wine walk.
And of course, there's so much else going on around the state.
If you went over to travelwisconsin.com, you'd see things like the Broadhead JC's have a holiday market, case high school craft and vendor fairs and Racine on Saturday.
Marinette has blues, brews and barbecues, and so so much more.
So head on over to travelwisconsin.com to learn more about things that are going on in your area, or
Just go grab some mac and cheese and we'll all compare notes Culver's and otherwise when we get together next week with Charita Booker our social media manager here at Up North News.
Charita, thank you very much.
Thanks, Pat.
Oh, I guess I should mention too in terms of social media.
We have new social media accounts just for the radio show on Blue Sky and yeah, we put it on Twitter.
X, whatever it is.
Just look up at the little at symbol PK for Pat Crichtlow radio show PK radio show.
That's our new account there.
Coming up next, our history lesson includes the opening of a Broadway play that definitely made the characters pop you learn.
Thanks for spending some time here up on the lake.
I'm Pat Crichtlow.
The Midwest Farm Report is next here on the media radio network.
Let us
kick off today's history lesson with Grace Slick from Jefferson Airplane, Jefferson Starship, Starship.
All the band name she kept her Grace Slick.
She's 85.
years old today and again would be one of the first to tell you surprise to make it to 85 live live the true rock and roll life from the 60s onward but again 85 years old for Grace Flick happy birthday to her happy birthday to Eddie Holland part of the legendary songwriting and production team of
Holland Dozier Holland, all kinds of Motown hits.
There was Baby Love.
There was Stop in the Name of Love, Heat Wave.
How sweet it is to be loved by you.
How about this one right here?
There were a lot of hits.
They wrote
Supremes.
Eddie Holland still with us at the age of 84 and I was seen somewhere online that the Motown Museum is expanding in Detroit and they recently had a bit of a celebration about that and it included
you know, some of the some of the greats that were there, Smokey Robinson of course, both Brian and Eddie Holland were there, Otis William, the surviving member of the Temptations and more.
So I've never been to the Motown Museum, so hearing that they're doing an expansion, just all the more reason to look forward to going to that someday.
Well, because it was based out of basically just a refurbished, not refurbished, but just a house in Detroit, and then they turned it into a record studio, and then it became so much more.
Speaking of Otis Williams, last surviving member of the Temptations, it's his birthday as well.
He's 84 as well.
He and Eddie Holland, born on the same day.
Also happy birthday to the Eagles, Timothy B. Schmidt.
He is 78 years old
today.
All right, here comes another one of those birthdays that for some generations it will make their knees buckle.
Henry Winkler, the Fonz.
Fonzie from Happy Days is 80 years old today.
Can you just imagine the Fonz still in his leather jacket but in his rocking chair and saying, hey, the Fonz don't need those Medicare Advantage plans.
But I think Henry Winkler does some kind of commercials, if not for Medicare Advantage, then for something else.
Oh, really?
Oh, yeah.
He's pitching some.
I mean, look, if you're an aging celebrity, there's always something to pitch out there.
So I'll take a look for that.
Anyway, Henry Winkler, 80 years old.
And by the way, so much more than just the Fonz, of course.
He's been in so many good shows.
What was the most recent one about Barry?
Wasn't any of it, right?
On HBO, he's the acting coach to...
A serial killer, basically.
Yeah, you're right, Barry.
Who's it from Saturday Night Live?
Who's Bill Hader is the lead in this?
And Henry Winkler is just really funny.
By the way, also underrated in Night Shift, along with Michael Keaton, one of their earliest movies together right after Happy Days.
Ivanka Trump, first daughter, is 44 years old today.
The second president of the United States, John Adams, was born this day in 1735.
Do you have that clip from War of the Worlds?
I do.
I just noticed that today is the anniversary
of Orson Welles' radio adaptation of the H.G.
Wells novel, War of the Worlds, about a Martian invasion.
It was played on the radio this day in 1938 and caused panic in some parts of the U.S.
So here's a little excerpt from
it.
So that was the very beginning of it and and it starts like you know just a normal radio broadcast with an orchestra and then interrupted with these news bulletins about you know a UFO and then a spaceship has landed and then you know the Martians attack and of course there's all the sound effects and people really believed that there was an invasion by Martians.
But as you could tell there at the front end of the broadcast and in the middle of the broadcast
An announcer did come on to say, this is a play.
And yet, enough people either didn't hear it or disregarded it and were calling police stations and people were getting a little freaked out.
Now, it's a little bit apocryphal whether the panic was widespread or if it was just a few random folks who were freaked out by this.
But still, it was a lesson that everybody else in the radio industry never
forgot.
run I remember hearing not the original broadcast don't talk about that but as a kid as a kid they played it one Halloween night after we got back from trick-or-treating and I remember listening to it and again you know you knew what it was but I'm sitting there was like a 10 year old or whatever it was I'm like oh yeah I could totally see how people get freaked out I'm getting a little freaked out and I know that this isn't real you
know
Obviously people have tried that with TV as well over the years, but War of the Worlds was kind of the original panic broadcast, if you will.
On this day in 1982, the number one song was by a band from Australia.
This, of course, would be meant at work, and it was the group's first number one in the U.S.
What can it be knocking at my door?
meant.
So anyway, between this song and songs like Father Figure, I Want Your Sex and more, the album was a little controversial and therefore, of course, went to number one and won the Grammy Award for Album of the Year.
On this day, two years ago, former basketball player Magic Johnson became the fourth athlete to become a billionaire after Michael Jordan, LeBron James, and Tiger Woods
according to Forbes magazine.
one.
So Wicked is
now going to be back in the movie theaters part two of the movie series The play though that did all right in 2003 winning two Tony Awards a Grammy and seven drama desk awards On this day in 2017
President Trump's former campaign chair, Paul Manafort, and associate Rick Gates were indicted on charges of fraud.
Advisor George Papadopoulos pleads guilty to lying to the FBI.
Again, pleads guilty to lying to the FBI.
And they are all pretty much scot-free now because, again, elected criminal, you're letting the criminals out of jail.
What's on the National Day calendar for this Thursday, October 30th?
But yes, the guy who for years and years and years and years said I hate candy corn.
Candy corn is terrible.
It's just a big old mouthful of sugar is softening his stance now.
So Wow.
I know.
What I didn't do yet, what we talked about yesterday is I said, yeah, you mix it with some peanuts, you know, and you got a salted nut roll.
Oh, yeah.
But remember, we said yesterday, now add a couple of chocolate chips to the mix and you got a baby Ruth.
So I'm going to try that today.
And then I'm going to call my dentist office right away for cleaning.
But yes, I there are folks who whose refrigerators do indeed become haunted.
I recall a couple of times when I was, you know, I would do babysitting as like, you know, 12, 13 year old, whatever it was, because you couldn't drive yet, you couldn't go anywhere.
So you may as well make money.
And so I do some babysitting.
And occasionally, you know, you kind of want to raid their fridge, they
the
Yeah.
I look back at that now and realize that that may have happened once or twice, where I was so disgusted by somebody's fridge.
I just went ahead and cleaned it out and figured I was doing them a favor.
Not no point did I ever get a call going, what did you do?
You touched my fridge.
So I'm assuming they were
at first
Yeah.
I also think they may have been really embarrassed and never called me again to babysit.
That's awesome.
Whatever the reason was, I was looking out for the kids.
I'm trying to babysit the kids.
You can't have living lab experiments in the fridge when you're raising your your your Chitlins.
All right.
So there you go.
Haunted refrigerator day today.
We'll be talking about a little bit of entertainment news along the way as well.
And then coming up in our seven o'clock hour, we will be discussing Medicare Advantage plans.
Some of those can be haunted as well.
With an expert on making sure you get the right health coverage for yourself or for an aging parent.
I'm Pat Quitelow.
This is the Civic Media Radio
Network.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
news.
Pat.
Okay, I actually saw this last night on TMZ, where they were talking about, you know, this guy's his his playlist, walking around the yard in the prison.
And I first off, I'm still coming back to the root of we're doing new stories about this guy.
Now, again, I'm telling you,
we're going to be talking in the seven o'clock hour about those terrible, terrible people at the health insurance companies.
So I get the anger, I get the frustration.
I'm not going to go so far as to endorse murder.
But clearly, enough people want to consider this guy, you know, if not a celebrity, a hero, whatever, that we now care what his playlist is in the prison yard.
And that Tay-Tay might be part of it.
All right.
You never know.
So I give up.
I cannot make myself care about what he's listening to any more than he cares about what I'm listening to.
So what's next?
Yeah.
Jennifer Lawrence is.
it is wonderful.
I really like her.
And I get the sentiment because yes, nobody likes to look back on their stuff.
And you should not be judging your old stuff too harshly.
Eventually, what you're going to end up doing is you're going to look back and you're going to kind of be more, you know, you're going to kind of romanticize the past instead.
What I mean by that is every year, at some point, I'll see a picture of myself and I'll go
Oh, God, I should not allow anybody to take pictures of me anymore.
Without fail, you know, fast forward, I don't know, three, four years or so, you're going to see a picture yourself and
go,
ugh, and then you're going to see this picture from like three, four years ago, and you're going to go, see, I looked so much better back then.
Look, I look better.
But at the time, I certainly didn't think so.
But now I'm like, oh, gosh, I looked much better back then.
That's not what you thought at the time, then butterball.
All right.
So, you know, let's
Let's not be too hard on ourselves.
Let's not romanticize, you know, the past either.
It just is what it is.
And she was wonderful back then and she's wonderful now.
And she she she's I think she's got a little bit more self confidence than she's letting on there.
But I appreciate the the attempts at modesty.
But I mean, some people really don't like Harry and Megan.
And I just I just don't know enough.
I don't I don't care enough, frankly, but just booing any.
almost anybody.
There's a few people, but I wouldn't have put Harry and Megan in there.
But again, you know, it's baseball.
You've got some people who want to watch their sports and their beer and they don't want to see celebrities.
And so I think that Harry and Megan will be okay.
I think I think they'll get over it.
Coming up in our next hour, a very exhaustive Marquette poll talks about how Wisconsinites feel about the issues and the candidate's spoiler alert.
They don't know enough about the candidates yet.
They're like, it's way too early, please.
But we'll talk about that after the news.
I'm Pat Cratlow.
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