Melissa and Charlie Are Not Equals (Hour 1)

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Melissa and Charlie Are Not Equals (Hour 1)

Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Wed Oct 15, 2025

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Well, hey there, Wisconsin.

Good morning.

It is 6.06 on a Wednesday morning, October 15th, halfway through the month already.

Another beautiful morning to have you here up north, live from Lake WSOTA.

From wherever you're spending your mornings, listening across the Civic Media radio network or listening or watching us on all the other

platforms that get you here.

Just glad you made it to Chippewa Falls and getting your day started right here.

I got a question for you.

Um is all hope lost?

Because we we do have to talk sports and producer Parker Olson is here to to help me do it.

It won't be long till we're not talking about baseball at all.

It'll be it'll be winter and we'll just be waiting for the next spring training.

Not that I'm looking to hasten it.

But I'm just saying we got to talk about baseball while it's still here.

Even if it is once again a story of Brewer's bats silenced by excellent Dodger pitching Dodgers win five to one and go up two games to love in the league championship series.

Even I when the Dodgers got to five to one Parker said good night everybody and thought if they come back, that'll be the best ninth inning comeback surprise I could ever want to see at four o'clock in the morning.

I did not see it come back on my phone at four o'clock this morning.

No, I don't remember what it if it was the eighth inning or ninth inning.

I think it must have been the ninth inning that I watched.

I believe it was Robert Gasser hit the first batter of the inning on this

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first

pitch.

And I almost threw my phone through the TV.

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No, no, no, no.

And went to bed.

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Yeah.

Now, and Gasser, I don't know much about him.

But one of the things I read was they brought him in because he's got a bit of a sidearm delivery, or at least his arms a little lower.

And that Shohei Otani doesn't do well against those kinds of pictures.

But if you're going to hit the batter, that kind of negates the

the pitches that you might make along the way.

And so, you know, that's that's we're at look on the very first pitch of the game.

Jackson Churio hits a home run.

Yeah.

And you're looking at Yoshinobu Yamamoto.

And you're saying, Well, this is a guy that during the regular season, we chased him out after two thirds of an inning.

Yeah.

So I mean, we know how to get this guy's number.

And he's just given up a lead off home run to Jackson Churio.

So

It was probably seven outs later.

He had pitched the first complete game in a National League championship series in many, many years, eight years to be exact.

It was a three hitter to beat the the Brewers.

And so in both games now, stellar starting pitching by the Dodgers has saved them from what is an inconsistent bullpen.

But if you can't get to the bullpen,

I

don't understand what the Brewers are doing offensively.

I don't understand the approach at all because last night they were swinging away early in counts like first pitch a lot and just not getting deep into counts.

They know that they have to get into that bullpen because the bullpen is inconsistent for the Dodgers.

And they're not making an effort to get into the bullpen.

I don't understand what the approach is.

They don't look like the team that they have been for a good three months of

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the year.

They don't.

And all I could think of was the sweatshirts that they're all wearing, the hoodies that they're all wearing, all the teams.

They have the same slogan out there, built for fall.

And at the moment, the burrs have to give theirs back because they're clearly built for summer.

Yeah, that was some great summer baseball, but they are not built for fall if this is how they're going to handle, you know, top of the line pitching in the postseason.

And so they are going to have to figure this out in games three, four and hopefully five in Los Angeles on Thursday, Friday and Saturday because today is a travel day and things will pick up tomorrow.

And again, because it's in Los Angeles, things will be a little bit earlier.

Coverage will start at 4 30 tomorrow afternoon on some of the stations of the civic media radio network and get us there.

And that's all, all we can really do at this point is hope the Bruce bats have figured it out.

We, we know they're capable.

They beat the Dodgers six games in a row.

Yeah.

During the regular season.

So I am not here writing off the series, but I am saying they're like you, you said it basically.

There needs to be a wake up call.

Yeah,

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they're

dead.

It's shocking to me that it didn't come last night because I'm I'm no genius.

The Brewers are significantly smarter than I am.

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They're smarter.

They know all this stuff.

That's what makes it so frustrating that you know that they're frustrated.

Yeah.

But then

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they

have to know that they needed to win that game last night.

Yes.

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Because I went winning more

than once in LA is going to be tough.

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I know you've seen the internet meme and I saw it again last night with it's just a stick figure with a stick poking something and just saying, do something, do something, just poking

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this

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thing.

And basically people are using it either for the whole brewers team or just for Christian Yelich who's in what, 0 for 17 or 18 slump now.

I think so.

I read this morning that in his, I want to say his first.

postseason game with the Brewers.

He had two RBI's.

He's had one RBI since and no RBI's in the postseason for the last like six years or something like that.

Yeah.

He's not built for fall.

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At the moment, no, is definitely not.

So that's where we stand and we will be talking a bit more about this throughout the course of the day.

Not a lot to be honest, but we will be reminding folks that again, it's a travel day and the birds will be playing in Los Angeles again tomorrow What's coming up on the program today?

Well, we're gonna be

Talking with Ellie Bardot just after seven o'clock.

She's our new newsletter editor and up north news and in fact her new edition of the newsletter has just dropped and I'm just looking through it right now There is an article on the eight best must-see attractions in Wisconsin according to world atlas There's a story on why Baraboo is hands down the most haunted city in Wisconsin And then she does a quick guide to political terms things that we're hearing

like authoritarianism, autocracy, totalitarianism, and fascism.

And she notes, these are not just buzzwords.

Understanding them helps us spot how power operates and why checks and balances matter in Wisconsin and across the federal government.

So again, a very well-rounded update.

from Ellie Bordeaux.

We'll talk to her after seven.

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So on the program today, we will be talking a bit about autocracy and authoritarianism and the

ongoing accolades for conservative provocateur Charlie Kirk.

It led to acrimonious floor debate in the Wisconsin legislature yesterday on a resolution that honored him will explain why coming up in less than 10 minutes.

Also, we're going to be talking to Leslie Doc, the national president of Protect Our Care.

It's a national group that is doing exactly what you think it is, making sure that the Affordable Care Act

stays affordable.

And that is not what is happening right now based on what, you know, Republicans have done so far in Congress, but now they need Democratic votes to pass a spending bill to keep the government open.

Democrats want to play along, just don't make health insurance more expensive for millions of Americans.

And Republicans are responding with, nah, now we'd rather make people hurt more before we jack up their health care costs to boot.

Leslie Doc will explain some of the stakes for just American families.

Take the politics out of it.

What does it mean to American families that this is the game that Republicans want to play with our federal government right now?

So we will have that coming up for you.

We will also be talking to Senator Chris Larson of Milwaukee.

Now we booked him originally for our homeroom segment Wednesdays at 7.35 and so he will be here today at 7.35 and he will talk about legislation that he and others are proposing that would increase taxpayer accountability.

No, I'm sorry taxpayer transparency when it comes to the voucher school program make the voucher program more accountable to taxpayers as far as the true cost of it.

But we will also have to talk to Senator Larson as well about the aforementioned acrimonious debate in the legislature yesterday on the Charlie Kirk resolution because he was right in the middle of it, as I'll tell you in just a few minutes.

But when he talks about the voucher school program, there's one element that taxpayers really don't know about.

comes to mind what's there's a clip of Michael Cain in one of his early movies.

And I don't remember the movie anymore, but anybody that wants to do a Michael Cain impression uses that line where it's like the line something like, you know, you're, you're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off.

And we have these enrollment caps on the voucher school program.

And those caps are about to be blown off.

And that is going to blow a hole in the budget.

and taxpayers are going to be paying so much more money for the voucher program if these caps are lifted.

And so we will be talking to Senator Chris Larson about that.

And we'll have Earl Ingram visiting with us and Melissa Baldoff as well.

We'll have our climate check.

And perhaps you can't stick around for all of that.

Perhaps you would like to pod this program as they say.

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Follow us as podcast that way.

I was just looking at some of the comments that Tony is already making on YouTube where he says, what happened to Chris Larson was bananas yesterday.

Yes, I will tell you more about that.

As far as what the problem is, Tony writes, I say the problem is they scored less runs than the Dodgers.

And his expert analysis is that they should have scored more runs.

Can't can't argue with that but again You got to solve the pitching problem first and that seems to be where we're at right now with hitters that again all throughout the season You know, we're doing such a great job of what what did Pat Murphy call them mosquitoes?

You know basically and they just found or no no no woodpeckers Yeah, they found a way to just always peck at you and so far the the brewers have not been finding ways to do that

Temperatures around Wisconsin are a little bit warmer than they were this time yesterday.

They range from 43 degrees in several locations up north, including places like, let's see, here's that, that Solon Springs.

There we go.

You're at 43 right now and Manitowish Waters is at 43 and also

Eagle River right now and the high temperatures around the state 54 right now down in the Milwaukee area we're seeing Kenosha lots of mid 40s and of course your local forecast is coming up throughout the course of the day on your favorite civic media station.

Also coming up this morning we'll be talking a bit about the latest on the government shutdown not just from the health care standpoint but also

from a trust standpoint.

There is a reason why it's going to get even harder to solve the government shutdown, and it deals with trust in the White House, a White House that has shown that even if they make a deal, they can always claim to come back in and not spend the money that Congress has approved.

So we'll get into that wrinkle a little bit as well.

All that and so much more ahead on this Wednesday morning live from the heart of America's up north.

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Yesterday, yesterday would have been Charlie Kirk's 32nd birthday.

I didn't mention it in the history lesson because that's for more deserving figures.

So I used that time to mention that yesterday should have been George Floyd's 52nd birthday as well.

Anyway, Charlie Kirk's birthday is being treated as a future national holiday by many on the political right, and it led to acrimony in the legislature on Tuesday as Republicans sought to honor the right-wing provocateur, but they objected to a full telling of Charlie Kirk's life story and his positions espousing bigotry, misogyny, and more.

which is not a surprise that the political right does not like it when you give a full retelling of history.

As reported by Molly Beck and Jesse O'Poyne in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the resolution praised Kirk's

unwavering conviction to advancing the timeless principles of faith, liberty and truth, most notably through his founding of Turning Point USA, which boldly equipped and inspired a generation of young Americans to defend the values that sustain our nation.

Really, what values would those be?

I mean, do we really need to run again through the virtual roll call of racism that he gave us, among so many other nuggets?

It's no wonder, then, that State Senator Latanya Johnson of Milwaukee wanted to make sure the record also showed that Kirk said things like how certain prominent Democratic women, quote, do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously, end quote.

Well, how did Republican Chris Kapping of Dellafield respond?

Did he want to put any kind of asterisk on Kirk's halo by recognizing that?

No.

He called Latanya Johnson racist.

He said Johnson's criticism of Kirk was ignorance, racism, and hatred personified.

He said to Latanya Johnson, a black woman from Milwaukee.

Because that's what we have in this country right now.

Whiny white people who believe that calling out racism makes that person the racist.

Then there was Democratic Senator Chris Larson, who was in the middle of recounting an incident during which an Elkhorn school principal was falsely tied to criticism of Kirk, but Senate President Mary Falskowski cut his microphone.

Over in the Assembly, Republican Representative Nate Gustafson of NENA

praised Charlie Kirk as a figure young people looked up to as kind of a figurehead that really brought us back to a spot of civility in society.

Civility.

Civility.

You know who really hates it when you call out oppression?

The ones doing the opressin because you're disrupting their civility.

Why can't the rest of you people just leave alone the people in positions of power who sneer at DEI and claim that it's a racist way to give jobs to minorities when in fact DEI is there so that qualified minority candidates don't get passed over for lesser qualified but white well-connected lackeys like a Pete Hegseth or a JD Vance or a Sean Duffy?

In the course of the debate, there was an effort to call out violence of any type, especially political violence from the right or the left.

But let's be clear about something, that while Charlie Kirk and Minnesota Representative Melissa Hortman were both victims of deadly political violence and both were name checked during the discussion, the comparison ends there.

If you're discussing Charlie Kirk,

and praising him, keep Melissa Hortman's name out of your mouth.

One tried to make the world a better place for all, while the other is getting outsized glory for a life dedicated to white, male-dominated Christian nationalism, the cancer that has infected American democracy and, frankly, American society.

It is a wedge driven less by bigots and more by an upper class that has found a

perfect tool for keeping America's middle class from focusing on how much they're getting screwed by the upper crust.

Because the greedy and the gullible have teamed up to use race and gender and sexual preference and certain other human vulnerabilities as diversions.

And it's working.

Hopefully for not much longer.

But in the here and now, it's been working.

It's been the recipe to electoral success.

for people pursuing power.

Charlie Kirk is no more deserving of recognition from Wisconsin lawmakers as he is the Presidential Medal of Freedom, which was further tarnished in its being awarded to Charlie Kirk yesterday by President Trump.

You know what's really the proper way to note the legacy of Charlie Kirk?

I would point you to a story in Politico yesterday.

The headline was, I love Hitler.

leaked messages expose young Republicans racist chat.

Thousands of private messages reveal young GOP leaders joking about gas chambers, slavery, and rape.

Honestly, please go read the story.

It's in politico, politico.com.

I'm not saying Charlie Kirk would have agreed with everything that these morally depraved little jerks said when they thought no one would read their messages.

But I am saying that every one of those young leaders in those trashy text chains thought Charlie Kirk was an inspiration.

So please just keep all of this in mind when someone in your hometown invariably suggests that a local school be renamed in honor of Charlie Kirk.

Our next generation of young leaders deserves better than what took place around this country on Tuesday.

Coming up next will be today's history lesson, which includes a big signature hit from the four tops almost 60 years ago.

Thanks for spending some time with us live from the lake.

These mornings powered by Up North News, the Midwest Farm Report is coming up next.

Today's history lesson starts with the four tops.

Reach Out I'll Be There was the number one song this day in 1966.

It was of course written and produced by Motown's main production team, Holland Dozier Holland.

They wanted lead singer Levi Stubbs to basically shout, sing the lyrics.

And upon hearing the final version, the group begged.

Barry Gordy not to release it, saying the song just felt a little odd.

Barry Gordy said it was going to be a hit.

Barry Gordy knows a thing or two about songs that become a hit.

He was right.

That song is in the Grammy Hall of Fame.

Can you imagine

that?

I love the spectrum of opinions sometimes.

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Oh, especially on music.

Because look, every song, I could never be a songwriter.

But then once you've created it, or performed it or whatever, you're too close to the work.

You may not necessarily know that people are going to like or hate what you've done there.

And in this case, I can't even imagine Motown was going to go on.

Don't get me wrong.

But I can't even imagine this not being a part of the library.

On this day in 1966, same day, same day that the song hit number one, President Lyndon Johnson signed a bill creating the U.S.

Department of Transportation with a mission to ensure that federal funds were effectively used to support the nation's transportation program through better coordination among various levels of government.

In other words, things were just a hot mess when it came to what roads go where and federal money versus state money versus local money and who does what and could somebody please get everybody in a room and talk together.

And that's what the U.S.

Department of Transportation is supposed to be doing created on this day 59 years ago.

All right, we once again have a case of.

We're not playing Pat Boone this time.

Usually when we play Pat Boone as part of the history lesson, he's taken somebody else's R&B tune and made it into something that is as vanilla as it gets.

But we don't have that this time, but we still have schlocky white guy music from Pat Boone's daughter, Debbie

Boone.

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1977 this hit number one you light up my life for the first of what would be 10 weeks in a row at number one which at the time had never been done before.

And I remember, because we would listen to KCK Some's American Top 40, and boy, when it got to like the 10th week at the top of the charts, there were people like, wow, this song is so popular.

It's such a juggernaut.

And some of the rest of us were going, please, could somebody else make a song to take this off the top of the charts?

Look, it is beautiful.

It's a beautiful song, but it was everywhere.

Sometimes, Pat, during the history lesson, you tell me things.

that songs were number one and I'm like really this got to number one really this got to number one for more than a day yes

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it did yes it did it was it was everywhere on this day in 1951 was the premiere of I Love Lucy on CBS on this day in 1952 was the publishing of the children's novel Charlotte's Web by E.B.

White again this day in 1952

All right, let's do some birthdays.

Singer Christe Berg is 77 years old today.

Richard

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Carpenter of, you know, the Carpenters is 79 years old today.

Chef Emeril Lagasse is 66.

And Sarah Duchess of York is also 66, both of them born this day in 1959.

Now, in 1984, country music was at a bit of a crisis.

Everything was urban cowboy.

It was kind of this soft rock version of country music.

When out of nowhere came this mother-daughter duo from Kentucky named the Judds.

it was on this day in 1984 their throwback debut album was released and it of course would have three number one country singles why not me there girls night out and love is alive and basically upended the urban cowboy movement at that point to which again a nation said thank you.

On this day in 1991 Clarence Thomas was confirmed as a Supreme Court Justice

by a vote of 52 to 48.

Clarence Thomas has now been a justice for 34 unfortunate years.

All right, you're probably gonna learn something on this next one.

The number one song this day in 1988 was by UB40.

So Redwine, 1988, hit number one, four years after it had initially been released.

It took a long time for that song to catch on.

That's the other thing.

I don't understand that either.

What is

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that?

Like a lot of you know, maybe just a couple of stations are playing it and then a few more and a few people were requesting it and so forth.

Anyway, the lead singer for UB40, Ali Campbell, said they've always known this is a reggae song and pot it up again.

You can hear it.

It's, you just think, oh man, I'm on the islands, right?

You know, this is great.

He had no idea until later on who wrote this song.

And I would like to play for you now the version from the person

Who wrote this song, Parker?

Again, white people, please, please.

Yes, Neil Diamond wrote Red Red Wine.

And I had never, I have listened to I think everything Neil Diamond's ever done because my mom grew up a huge

Neil Diamond fan.

And yet somehow either I never heard this version or I locked it away because at no point hearing UB40 do it over the past, you know, 40 years or so.

Yeah.

It occurred to me that there was a Neil Diamond version out there.

But now you know.

I

think it's fair to just purge this one and stick with the UB41.

Yeah.

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I think so.

So I hope some of you enjoyed both the first and the last time that you heard.

from the songwriter of Red Red Wine.

On this day in 1990, Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev won the Nobel Peace Prize for the dissolving of the Soviet Union.

On this day in 1993, Nelson Mandela and South African President F. W. DeClerk were awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for dismantling apartheid in South Africa.

Also on this day in 1993, a late night talk show host, Chevy Chase,

had his show canceled by Fox after only five weeks.

I

was gonna say I didn't know he had a show.

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He had a show for five weeks where he was gonna be the next big thing after Johnny Carson because obviously everybody thought he was a very funny guy Saturday Night Live and some of the movies that he'd done.

Turns out that doesn't always transfer well to a late night show.

How awful do you need to be to get canceled after five weeks?

You need

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to be pretty bad.

have terrible numbers and or be a terrible person to work with and as I understand it was a little bit of both in the case of the Chevy Chase show.

On this day in 2000 HBO premiered a new show from Larry David.

I was not a regular viewer of Curb Your Enthusiasm and I appreciate Larry David.

I really do but

There's just a few too many cringe moments in there where it's like, you know, in that same Seinfeld way, of course, he and Jerry Seinfeld did a lot of work together.

And everybody has their own brand of humor.

Everybody has their own lane.

And I just could not get into Larry David's lane.

I don't know if you watched it very much.

I've seen.

I'm going to say essentially all of Seinfeld.

I have not seen any Caribbean enthusiasm.

It's on, like, it's in my, like, my list or whatever it is to say for later.

I've got a

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crack into

this.

Still saving it for later.

Still saving it for later.

Maybe one of these years it'll come.

There you go.

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All right, let's take a look at the national day calendar.

What are we celebrating today, Parker?

This, honestly, this should be a, like, state holiday.

And frankly, I don't know why we don't get the day off.

It's national cheese curd day.

Get out.

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National cheese curd day.

Yeah.

I say

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we get the day out.

I just had a big old bag of cheese curds last weekend stopped by my favorite place, Nasonville Dairy on Highway 29, the little yellow shack there like before Curtis and Abbotsford and you get them fresh, squeaky fresh, you know, right off the line.

You know, you see them put them in the little bags, the ladies with their hair nuts on and tying up the bag and giving it to you and oh my gosh, what a treat.

So squeaky so kind of just a little bit of salty so good.

Of course.

It needs to be a holiday Parker.

You're exactly right Tony Evers, please let's Tony Evers before you get done We need to declare October 15th national cheese curd day to be an official state holiday.

I'm all in on it.

It is still very enjoyable to this day to

meet people who have never come to Wisconsin before and introduce them to cheese curds because you they see them and you tell them this is the curds, you know, from the, from the process and they're like, ew, ew, why would anybody eat that?

Ew, ew.

And then they try it.

Yeah, what do you mean,

ew?

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How have we not, how have we not had these before?

And part of it is you really do have to have them all their fresh.

You really only only the first day or so day or two after is that it.

So

It's still great when people come to Wisconsin and they're just so doubtful.

And then that's just the squeaky fresh ones.

Then what else did we do in Wisconsin?

We deep fried them.

Now it's not that they need to squeak.

It's that they melt and that is liquid gold right there, boys and girls.

When done right.

I'm so hungry now, Pat.

I know.

I know.

All right.

Didn't mean to clog up too much of the national day calendar.

What else we got?

No,

it's okay.

I like I like dreaming about cheese curds It is national grouch day.

Yeah, this is related

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to Oscar on Sesame Street.

No, just

being grouchy

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Again, you'd think this would be a national holiday for a guy like me.

Yeah, you would right?

You think yeah, if you're over the age of like 55 I think this becomes a national holiday.

You should get the day off.

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I think you should yeah now

I'm not all of them because there are some people out there my age and older who are just delightful and they're just always upbeat and positive and I just don't know if you slap them real hard, will they just say thank you and carry on with their day or what?

I don't know their secrets.

Whatever it is, maybe they have cheese curds every day.

That's what makes them so happy.

The rest of us are kind of grouchy from time to time.

I don't know.

All right, what else?

We've also got National Mushroom Day.

Are you a mushroom guy?

I'm not a big mushroom guy myself.

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Again, we need to clarify.

Is this a food day or is this a hallucinogenic day?

Okay, not psychedelic.

Okay, gotcha.

No, I love mushrooms.

My favorite pizza, which I had again last night, pepperoni sausage and mushroom.

Love mushrooms on a pizza, love mushrooms in an omelet.

Love mushroom in Swiss on a hamburger.

So yeah.

Big big fan other people I know do not do not like the texture But I also know people like right up in this area who like to go hunting for mushrooms on their own They have been able to identify the edible ones

and

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get them That that worries me a little bit.

I was

gonna say be careful doing that.

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Yeah, it seems like a

bad idea to me

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That's not one you want to make a mistake at, exactly, right?

All right, coming up in our next hour, we will be talking to State Senator Chris Larson about voucher school transparency and also that fight in the legislature, the verbal one, over the Charlie Kirk Honor Resolution.

That's all ahead on these mornings powered by Up North News on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Before we get into partners entertainment news, let's move on from the Milwaukee Brewers for a sec.

Again, they will be playing the Dodgers in Los Angeles tomorrow.

Game three pregame coverage starts at 430.

But let's remind you as well, there's still plenty of football to be played out there.

The Wisconsin Badgers take on Ohio State.

Coverage begins Saturday at.

12.30 on some of the stations of the Civic Media Radio Network.

Again, we want you to tune into the Badgers versus Ohio State because it could be history.

It could be the game that you will tell your great-grandchildren about.

You might have your head placed in a jar after you're gone preserved so you can tell your great-great-great-grandchildren about the time the Badgers beat Ohio State.

Or the time the Badgers get up on the points.

I'm not saying that's going to happen this Saturday.

I'm just saying that if it did, you'd want to tell that story.

So that's why you should tune in this Saturday, starting at 12 30.

Yeah.

You sound doubtful.

I just don't.

I don't know sometimes.

Pat Kreitlow

Let's move on to the Packers then.

They play the Arizona Cardinals on Sunday.

Coverage begins at one o'clock on some of the stations of the Civic Media Network and kickoff is at 325 this coming Sunday.

All right, Mr. Olsen, what's in entertainment news?

Entertainment news.

We have, there's talk of a prequel for the oceans 11 franchise.

Um, and apparently Marco Robbie is already cast as the female lead for it.

Pat Kreitlow

Uh,

is

Pat Kreitlow

that, is that a shot at Julia Roberts?

Like, okay.

You're, you're officially told to be playing this now.

Um, I mean, is it, is it the, it's the George Clooney and all that?

Or is it?

Well, I don't, I think that's the only one that I know for sure right now.

It's set to take place in like 1960s Europe.

So like it's a,

I think it's a fairly sizable time chunk before.

I'm not

Pat Kreitlow

very

familiar with the franchise though, so I should not broadly talk too much

Pat Kreitlow

about it.

And yet here it is at the top of your list.

I, you know, Oceans 11, you know, again, it is a 2001 remake of a film from 1960.

And then there have been other, you know, films in the franchise since.

Let's see.

Do I have a list here in front of me?

There's 11,

Kathryn Lake

12, 13.

Oh,

Pat Kreitlow

here we go.

Oceans eight, the one with with all the women who were involved as well.

So that's why I wonder if this was maybe a take on oceans eight, or if it's indeed a prequel to mostly the 2001 George Clooney film.

I believe that is what the deal is.

Yes.

Pat Kreitlow

Either way, if folks haven't seen the

The 2001 version I can't say the original version that's that's 1960 but the the 2001 remake I think still holds up pretty well You know got George Clooney and Matt Damon and Brad Pitt and Julia Roberts and I think probably would hold up the 1961 is I think maybe a little

less so but you got Frank Sinatra, Dean Martins, Hammy Davis Jr.

Peter Lofford, Joey Bishop, Angie Dickinson, Cesar Romero, Shirley McClain, Red Skelton.

I mean, basically you have to be my age or much older to appreciate it.

But it's it's out there.

If you want to, you know, watch it at some point and compare.

And now we've got this potential prequel with Margot Robbie.

I assume I'm assuming she's going to be like an executive producer of it if if we're putting her name along with it.

But

Uh, it said lead, I think it said female lead role.

Pat Kreitlow

Okay.

Uh, let's see.

Tony puts on YouTube.

She's great.

The franchise is overrated.

The 01 movie, 2001 movie was good, but it's like the Fast and Furious franchise.

Why so many?

Yeah.

Pat Kreitlow

You know why that is, Tony?

The answer to all your questions is money.

All right.

What else we got?

Uh, we've also got, uh, the, the movie that caused disruption in all theaters across America this summer.

The Minecraft movie, um, they're looking at making a second one.

And

Pat Kreitlow

it, oh, hey, look at that.

We're talking about another sequel to a movie just so it can make some more money.

Milk it, milk it, milk it.

It was the highest earning film this year.

So was it really?

That's what the people tell us.

I mean, as somebody who, you know, brought their their grandkids to it, you know, right, right shortly after it came out.

In other words, we went early enough that we weren't part of the throwing popcorn at the screen thing, or whatever it became.

Yeah, I would love to hear you yell chicken jockey.

Pat Kreitlow

I mean, we we laughed at that point in the movie.

But again, it hadn't become a disruptive force yet.

Alright, so 2027, we should be looking for

the Minecraft movie sequel,

July 20, 27.

I believe they already have a day.

I think it's like July 23rd.

Like they're pretty set.

I'm trying to

Pat Kreitlow

do this.

It's nice to have goals.

That's good.

All right.

Thing is, by that point, a lot of the original fans will have aged out.

So I would don't make it one where you have to have had to have watched the first movie.

Although again, I don't think we're in danger of that.

I have yet to see the first movie of it, but I.

Knowing Minecraft, I think that has an actually like decently wide range of age groups playing it.

So

Pat Kreitlow

it does.

It does.

You know, Jack Black and others did an admirable job keeping keeping the grandparents and the parents entertained as we were in the theater.

All right.

Do you have any other movie news that people would find extremely interesting and compelling?

Movie news?

I suppose this is movie news.

Taylor Swift, because she is also, I guess, doing movies now, sort of, has a six episode docu-series following her Eras tour.

It will be on Disney Plus starting December 12th.

Pat Kreitlow

And that following that is a concert film as well, right?

Yes, I'm not entirely clear if that's a separate thing

Pat Kreitlow

that's coming out at the

same time or if it's

Pat Kreitlow

the last

episode of it.

Pat Kreitlow

I yeah okay I guess we'll have to clarify that but yes now Taylor Swift you can watch her on the big screen while she prepares for the next world tour for the life of a showgirl album which will eventually run after and after a couple years and it will be followed by a docuseries and a concert film rinse repeat cash the checks she knows how to do that

yeah I am a little concerned about when we get to that knock on wood song in that documentary

Pat Kreitlow

I wasn't going to go there, but I appreciate that you did.

Yes, some things will have to be addressed.

And we have to keep the we have to keep the concert movie, you know, age appropriate for most of our young fans.

Oh, this I'm this is not trying to will and I'm not trying to manifest this at all.

But

Can you imagine if they got divorced and then she had to keep performing that song because people loved

Pat Kreitlow

it?

Well, I mean, there's a long history of that.

Fleetwood Mac, a lot of their songs were written for people other than who they were with at the time.

And yet their ex had to be out there on stage pretending to enjoy the song.

So yeah, it can be done again for the love of money.

Much more after the seven o'clock news, I'm Pat Krightlow.

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