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Well, hey there, Wisconsin.
It is 6-0-6.
Good morning.
It's a Monday morning, October 13th, 2025.
It is another beautiful morning to have you here up north, live from Lake Basota.
From wherever you're spending your mornings, listening across the Civic Media Radio Network, catching us on Facebook, YouTube.
podcast website, however you got here.
We appreciate you getting your work week started right here.
I got a question for you.
Can you believe it is October 13th and we are still talking brewers baseball?
Yeah, because the brewers beat the Cubs and eliminated them.
and their manager, Craig Council, from the postseason and move on to play for the National League pennant.
The League Championship Series starts tonight at American Family Field.
I am wearing my Father's Day gift from one of my daughters, one of those Brewers Hawaiian shirts and producer Parker Olson down in Madison Studio A2.
We're splendid in his old school Milwaukee t-shirt with the glove logo.
You don't see the wheat logo much anymore.
It's pretty much all glove everywhere.
Mr. Olson, it's a great morning to be a Brewer's fan.
It is a very great day to be a Brewer's fan.
It is hopefully a very good week to be a Brewer's fan, Pat.
I have a little stat for you here.
A stat?
A
stat.
The Brewers are 6-0 against the Dodgers this season.
That's right.
Yes.
I'm not saying,
but I'm
suggesting.
I'm just saying, you know.
There's there's some who are saying, you know, that you'll say is bucks and six and they're saying I was in six.
Oh, yeah.
Which I appreciate the sentiment, but why not brewers and four?
You know, I mean, yeah, let's let's just go ahead and start with the highest of expectations.
Let's
get crazy.
Why not?
Because let's face it, after game four against the Cubs, we were all mildly panic stricken about what game five would be like.
And then gave five.
to not to be pretty okay.
Pretty okey-dokey.
Pretty good.
Pretty good.
Pretty good.
And now we've got some some corners of baseball world unhappy with the Brewers.
Hating on the Brewers because during the team photo at the end
Picture Trevor McGill grabbed one of the Fly the L flags and held up the L flag up high over the team for one of the photos and people going, oh, that's just like no class.
Oh, that's it.
Do you not know the history of the Chicago Cubs?
But by corner of baseball fans you mean Chicago Cubs fans
not even all there's there are Cubs fans really I'm a Cubs fan.
I get it.
We would have done the same to them.
I've only seen
Cubs complaining about it though.
I haven't seen
regular people
complain,
you know, the people who like would back the Dodgers or the Mets or things because you know, they're expecting that.
Oh, Midwesterners would never, you know, rub it in again.
Have you met the Cubs?
So
this is all
good.
Yes, I and I've stated plenty of times my my feelings about this are only amplified by Craig Council's decision to stab his team in his hometown in the back.
So this has been that was an especially good game and especially when it was all on home runs, which was really felt nice.
Yeah, although I have to say I kind of I kind of cheated a little bit.
I didn't mean to but this this is a story of technology to use black magic.
No, maybe not.
But see, on my phone, I get, you know, you can get score updates.
And on my lock screen, you get these score updates.
Well, it turns out that my phone was about either 10 seconds ahead of the TV, let's put it this way, the TV through the cable system was about 10 seconds behind real time.
Yep.
And the phone will beep if there's a score update in something that I'm following.
Yeah.
And
so for each time, Andrew Vaughn, William Contreras, Bryce Turing, they're all up.
My phone beeped.
I kind of looked out the corner of my eye and I said, sure, look at this.
And then it goes over and I'm like, yes.
I mean, the first time I probably looked psychic, the second time quizzical and the third time I looked like an idiot.
But it was it felt so good.
Except for the one time it beeped.
And it wasn't us.
It wasn't us.
It was tracking another Iowa touchdown against the
Badgers.
Oh, yeah.
And I was just like, you can get off my phone right now.
And I did.
I deleted that so fast off my lock screen after that because there was a brewer hit her up.
I forget who and I hear the beep and I'm like, Oh, and there wasn't a home run.
I looked out at the lock screen and it's like, you know, Iowa scoops up a fumble or whatever.
You're done badgers.
You're just done.
You're dead to me.
Cannot do me like that.
They're dead to me.
They're just dead.
That's Iowa 37 to nothing.
I mean, it's 37 might not be the over under on next weekend's game against Ohio State.
In fact, I don't I don't do betting.
And I
believe
Last I saw, I thought it was like 20.
I don't remember if that was pre or post Iowa.
Now, now I'm going to look, let's see, 28.5, 28 and a half point favorites.
That's ridiculous.
Four touchdown favorites over the patchers.
Oh, boy.
And I honestly, any, anybody who bets the under, no, stop it.
Oh, wow.
Hey, you
know,
that was the story of getting the Badger score updates off my phone while I was trying to enjoy the Brewer's game.
And let's let's talk pitching here because Trevor McGill started, which was unusual.
But again, Pat Murphy, genius.
You get you get the kind of the yips out of the way instead of Jacob Mizorowski starting needed a good first inning.
Yep, had a good and then, you know, again, that was my most nervous was watching Mizorowski.
He especially when he gave up the one home run.
I was like, Oh, I hope this isn't what it is because let's let's remember last year in the wild card series.
Yep.
You know, the Brewers are in a position to clinch.
They were up there up two runs in the ninth inning.
And Devin Williams allowed four runs in the final inning, including a three run homerun by Peter Lonzo.
That's what I was thinking
about when a rebate came up.
I make you relive all this just because it was it was in in our minds when Mizorovsky was on the mount and then when Abner Uribe was asked to get a two innings six six outs
and
Sherry again is hearing me going okay we got six outs to go okay we got five outs to go okay we got four outs to go I mean I was just come on just trying to come on will each one of these to happen because
I am very much an Abner Uribe fan.
Yeah,
but I also know that like Devin Williams last year, you can have those moments where you implode, but he did not.
He got the final six outs.
And so the Brewers are in the postseason advancing, advancing for the first time, winning a division series since 2018, when they then went on to face the Dodgers to go for the National League pennant and they lost in a heartbreaking game seven, but not this time.
We've exercised the demons from the Cubs.
Now we're doing it on the Dodgers.
This is the vengeance tour.
Crew in six.
Let's go.
Come on.
There you go.
So that takes us to the National League Championship Series.
It begins tonight at American Family Field.
Coverage begins at 630 on Civic Media Stations in Richland Center in Oshkosh.
We're seeing Kenosha Park Falls and Hayward.
Again, 630 for a first pitch at 708.
The American League Championship Series is already underway.
Seattle beat Toronto last night, three to one.
And so they will play game two this afternoon at four o'clock ahead of the National League Championship Series game one, Brewers Dodgers at seven o'clock.
Now the schedule sets up like this.
It's today and tomorrow night at home for the Brewers against the Dodgers.
Then Wednesday is the travel day.
And then they're at Dodger Stadium Thursday, Friday, and if necessary on Saturday.
So Thursday, Friday, maybe Saturday, and then a travel day Sunday.
And so if they need a game six and seven back here in Milwaukee, it would be next Monday and Tuesday.
So Monday, Tuesday this week, Monday, Tuesday next week at American Family Field.
But we won't need that.
We won't even need to come back to Milwaukee.
But if we do, again, we've got that, we've got that home field advantage, which would be a big help in game six and seven.
So that's kind of how it all sets up.
Tony says I was really nervous of who they would bring in if you rebate blew it.
Yeah, me too.
I figured it would be Caneg.
Yeah.
something would have been something.
Oh, by the way, the Packers played usually we're all in Packer gear at this point, you know, and the Packer game was fine.
It was fine.
It was a win.
It was definitely not what you would call a sexy game.
But you know, it was it was a good old fashioned victory.
Just Jacobs running for two touchdowns.
Tucker craft barreling his way into the end zone for a TV reception.
I really am liking Tucker craft.
I mean, we don't we don't always have a great classic tight end.
So when we do, you know, the guy that can either catch or block, that's nice.
And the Packers beat the Bengals 27 to 18.
Josh Jacobs, not feeling his best, he had the flu.
Said he threw up a couple of times during the game, still managed to carry the ball 18 times 93 yards.
He told his coaches the last time he felt this way, he had 130 yards and two touchdowns.
So apparently, Josh Jacobs needs to play sick as a dog.
He said his
best
in flu games.
Cool.
Sure.
Why not?
Jordan Love 19 of 26 for 259 yards.
He had the 19 yard touchdown pass to Tucker Kraft and one interception.
And again, it's not not dominant.
But it gets the job done.
Tony writes on YouTube.
The Packer game felt like the Browns game at first, where the Packers were better, but they weren't pulling the game away.
Yes, I definitely saw that in the comments on social media.
People still feel like Matt LaFleur is not like he's he's holding them back.
I don't know that I necessarily get that impression.
I see Jordan Love going deep a lot, but it definitely didn't feel like a rhythm.
I guess I guess that'd be fair to say.
No, it's it's really odd.
It's been a while since I've felt really good about like consecutive packer wins like.
Yes, the wins against the Lions start there was really good.
I don't remember who we beat.
I think the commanders the next week.
Yes.
Um, those prop were two really good wins back to back,
but prior to that,
I don't remember feeling awesome after a backer win for a little, for a little
while.
It hasn't.
And all I'll say in, in consolation to that is, uh, look, if, if you're going to feel that way better, closer to the end of the season.
I guess.
But that's true.
This is a rare home game here.
You had the by week.
You had the other road games.
Now we're on the road to Arizona next week and to Pittsburgh the week after that.
This was the only October home game for the Packers and then they won't be home again till November 2nd.
But again, they will take on Arizona next Sunday.
It is again a 325 game.
So again, coverage will begin at one o'clock on several stations across the Civic Media radio network.
And if you think I'm being a little too tough on the Badgers and you do want to hear a little Badger football against Ohio State next Saturday, coverage begins at 1230 on some of the stations across the Civic Media network.
Why would you do that to yourself?
The Badger women's volleyball team, they got swept on Friday at Penn State.
The seventh ranked Badgers losing to the 19th ranked Nittany Lions and straight sets on the road Friday.
So they took it out yesterday on Maryland and beat up Maryland in straight sets.
And they will next play at home Friday night at the field house against UCLA.
And a sweep for Badger women's hockey against Minnesota Duluth.
I did not even know that they were.
going already.
Yes, they are.
They had a they had an
incredible win on a Friday, I think they were down a goal and they scored with like 20.8 seconds left to tie
and
then scored to win with like eight seconds left.
Well, there you go.
All right.
So we got we got plenty of sports action to follow.
the starting first and foremost with the Brewers.
You don't see any other gear that we're wearing today.
This is this is how we roll at least for this week, hopefully.
There's other things going on in the world and we'll tell you what else is coming up on the program and go over some of the headlines and Dr. Kristen Lyrely is along before too much longer.
But first, from the heart of America's Up North, live from Lake Wissota, thank you for making this the place to spend part of your mornings.
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So here's what's coming up this morning here on the program.
State Representative Jody Emerson from Eau Claire will be along to talk about a new package of bills supporting higher education in Wisconsin which to many of us sounds like a no-brainer but is not for certain parts of our legislature and so she's going to unveil what she's got proposed and the difference between
what others in the legislature would be doing for colleges and universities in the state of Wisconsin.
We'll talk to Dr. Kristen Lyrely.
She'll join us, I should say, for today's history lesson coming up in just a little over 10 minutes.
And then after seven o'clock, we will talk about the government shutdown and how President Trump made his latest move related to the shutdown, firing like 1,000 people at the Centers for Disease Control and
prevention because nothing says running a government capably than letting go the people who respond to Ebola.
and measles outbreaks and other things.
So Dr. Lierly will have some thoughts on that.
We'll talk to a Civic Media Sports Director, Jimmy Kosko, of course, about the Brewers and the Packers.
We'll be joined by our Civic Media friends, John and Gordy from Madison, Jane Mattenair, whose program follows ours at nine o'clock across the Civic Media Radio Network.
And if you're saying, Pat, please stop.
That is too much.
I cannot handle all of that.
I can't stick around.
Then pod the program.
get over to Spotify or Apple, follow the show there and listen on demand.
You can even, I don't know why you'd want to do this, but you could fast forward.
You could listen at, you know, one and a half or double speed to get through it quicker.
But that's one way to do it is get over to Spotify and follow us that way or watch us later on on Facebook or YouTube and that will stop as you like.
But those are some of the things we're coming up for you yet this morning.
Yesterday came our Sunday mornings with Pat Crite, little Sunday newsletter from the folks at Up North News and Courier Newsroom, and it includes our question of the week.
Our question of the week this week deals with mining, metallic mining for things like gold, copper, zinc, and other elements that we know are up there.
We've always known they're up there to some degree.
The question is whether it's worth the price.
to dig the mines.
I mean, even the test drilling that was recently done up north had some issues, like sediment that washed away into a wetland and borehole that was left open, which could allow for cross contamination of aquifers.
But there are others who say, you know, once they start mining, they're going to do it responsibly.
So do you agree?
I ask in the newsletter, where are you on mining?
Is it, you know, no?
no way not ever don't need it not worth it is it i'm open to the idea as long as there are really good regulations and protections or option c was drill baby drill that the mining companies can police themselves so what do you think of that and you can send us a response by responding to the newsletter sign up for the newsletter
Over at UpNorthNewsWI.com.
Tony asks on YouTube, Dr. Lirely talked to Chris Matthews.
Yes, the former hardball host.
I saw that she'd posted a video being interviewed by Chris Matthews for his program.
Tony also asks about the, if you listen by podcast and says, speeding it up, can I slow it down to enjoy it for four hours?
Yes, Tony, you can.
But I don't know why anybody would want to do that.
So again, thank you.
And you can put your own comments in there as well in the comments sections of YouTube and Facebook.
That would be the Up North News Facebook and YouTube pages or the Civic Media Facebook and YouTube pages.
On the subject of, you know, regulations for things like mining and other environmental regulations, I haven't...
given this talk for a while, but I'm going to give it again because there's a package of bills put forth by Republicans in the legislature that went through the next step in the committee process.
On its road to nowhere, this package of bills is going to be vetoed by Governor Tony Evers if it ever gets to his desk, but Republicans are always looking to make some kind of a statement by working on these things that are going nowhere anyway.
And this new package of bills is all about
attacking those pesky government regulations.
We hear about regulations all the time.
The headline for this Wisconsin Public Radio article, lawmakers debate GOP bills designed to cut back on state regulations and regulations and deregulation and overregulation.
So here's the talk I haven't given for a while.
When you hear regulations, when you hear deregulations, anything about regulations, take out the word regulations.
put in the word protections.
Because by and large, that's what those are.
They're protecting something.
They're either protecting the environment, or they're protecting you as a consumer, or they're protecting you as an employee.
Now, I'm not here to say that every regulation is perfect and that every regulation has to stay on the books.
The trick to being a lawmaker, as I discovered firsthand, is basically eternal vigilance.
Always being aware that some regulation isn't living up to what its author is promised.
It needs to be modified or it needs to be removed.
It needs adjustments But to erase regulations for the sake of erasing regulations is really just attacking protections in other words, you're doing the bidding of some business or some group
That wants to remove those protections so that they can for example Drill as much as they want and not have to worry about those pesky regulations about groundwater contamination Or the regulations on things like you know child labor Because there are people that want to address the labor shortage in this country not by fixing immigration But by letting more 14 year olds and 13 year olds and 12 year olds do job duties
that we passed child labor laws a century ago to deal with so that our kids would not be facing those kinds of troubles.
But people say, oh, it's those pesky regulations.
And so these bills are making their way through the committee process right now, again, to make that statement.
And while they won't go anywhere, it is an ongoing GOP talking point.
that says Wisconsin is one of the most heavily regulated states in the country.
Thank goodness.
I like living in a state that puts a priority on protecting children from exploitation and protecting employees and protecting the environment.
It's what makes Wisconsin such a great state to live in and what say we not go backwards.
We have got today's history lesson.
Dr. Lierly will be joining us in just a bit, starting with the singer for singer and keyboardist for the group Chicago.
On the way, I'm Pat Crichtman.
This song never fails to put me in a better mood.
It's just nice and upbeat.
It's Chicago.
It's beginnings.
It was written by Robert Lamb, who turns 81 years old today.
Songwriter, keyboardist.
He wrote many of the band's biggest hits, including Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is, 25 or 64, Saturday in the Park, and more.
He is one of three founding members still performing with the group that they founded back in 1967.
Welcome to today's history lesson where we are joined by the one and only Dr. Kristen Lyrely.
Dr. Lyrely, good morning.
How
are you?
Good morning.
I'm OK.
Monday.
Somebody's still recovering.
And you were not at the game yesterday.
I was surprised to hear.
I was kind of planning to ride my bike there because that is one of my favorite things in the world is to ride my bike to Lambo, tailgate, and then come home and listen.
to it.
So we made soup instead.
Oh, boys.
You know what you should have done?
You
should have gone down the road just a little bit to where I was Friday to get broasted chicken at Schuster's in Denmark.
Oh, yeah, chicken, broasted chicken, broasted chicken in Northeast Wisconsin ain't nothing like it.
I still don't really know what broasted means.
It's it's roasted.
It's I don't know.
It's a it's a it's a
It's a different kind of invention.
A lot of people kind of refer to it as a Nesco as well.
But it is something where you are essentially pressure cooking it and baking it at the same time.
In other words, you need a special piece of machinery.
You can't just call something broasted.
You have to use an actual broaster.
And if you do it, and if you do it right,
It is the best chicken that you will ever have.
And you get that with some mashed potatoes and gravy and some kneecaps.
Not the kind that you're recovering from, Kristen, but
the little pastries.
Basically, it's a little mini
donut.
That's a very Denmark thing.
It's
a very Northeast Wisconsin thing, except it's not a mini donut.
There's just an indentation, not a hole.
And you put powdered sugar and whipped cream on that.
Oh, my goodness.
So good.
So good.
Anyway, let's get back to today's history lesson because I'm making myself hungry and This one is just just for Alicia who really liked the last segment saying I could not have said it better Pat Well, Alicia, this is for you on this day in 1775 the Continental Congress established the Continental Navy predecessor of today's United States Navy
Alicia, of course, a proud Navy veteran, like so many other folks out there.
So, you know, so much respect from us, the people who you have served and fought for, not so much from the federal government who has a lot of lip service, but not actual support.
Including not
actual paychecks like right now, but happy 250th birthday to the United States Navy.
On this day in 1792 in Washington DC, the cornerstone was laid for what was then called the Executive Mansion, later known as the White House.
Again, this day in 1792.
Happy birthday to singer Paul Simon.
He is 84 years old today.
Do you have a favorite Paul Simon
song?
Do I have a favorite Paul Simon song?
Oh, gosh, good question.
Me and Julio down by the schoolyard comes to mind.
Yeah, there's so much, I mean, either with a guy named Art Garfunkel, who was a pretty good singer in his own right, and then he had such a great solo career, but this would also be in the top two or three, Kodakrum.
Yeah.
A couple of baseball notes here on this day in 1903, the Boston Red Sox won the first modern world series, beating the Pittsburgh Pirates.
in the eighth game of what was then a best five of nine series.
Oh, that's right.
I forgot about that.
It used to be stupidly long.
Stupidly
long.
There are some people that will tell you seven games is stupidly long to them.
But, you know, it's better than those stupid one game playoffs.
But best of nine might be a bit much.
Another baseball note on this day in 1969.
Billy Martin was fired as manager of the Minnesota Twins.
Keep in mind the Minnesota Twins had just won the division with 97 victories but they were eliminated in the postseason by the Baltimore Orioles and the team owner Calvin Griffith finally had had enough of Billy's volatile personality and fired the guy that had just won them a division.
That sounds like a Minnesota sports move.
Just say it.
It sounds like a Billy Martin move who I get years later would be at a bar in the Twin Cities.
I think he was managing the Yankees at the time and got in a fight with a marshmallow salesman in a hotel bar.
He had a way.
I
miss those days of like you just hear about the ball players at the bar after the game.
I wish
that
we still got those stories.
There are well.
I know there are a couple of bars around Green Bay, one or two that are still operating that were operating back in, you know, the glory days of the 60s.
And there are stories that can be told, and there are stories that cannot be told of the things that went on at some of those local watering holes.
Happy birthday to singer Sammy Hagar.
He is 68 years old today.
He seems like he should be older or dead, either one.
Again, he's
ridden hard and put away wet would
be
Sammy Hagar, who still can't drive 55.
He'd rather drive his age, which is now 68 years old today.
All right.
One of those stupidly easy pop quizzes, I hope for Parker here.
Hunter and businessman Leon, Leonwood Bean was born this day in 1872.
What business did Leon, Leonwood Bean begin?
If it's not LL Bean, I'm going to be really mad.
It is L. L. Bean.
Congratulations on that.
Yes.
Singer Marie Osmond.
Little Marie Osmond.
She is
a
senior citizen today.
65 years old.
She's a little bit country.
And a little bit rock and roll.
Sasha Baron Cohen is 54 years old today.
Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is 36 years old today.
All right, I am happy to say that last night I finally finished the like five plus hour Billy Joel documentary.
It's good,
isn't it?
Yes, just to tell you that on this day in 1978, Billy Joel's sixth studio album was released.
It was entitled 52nd Street.
It would go on to win the Grammy Award for Album of the Year.
We all know these signs.
We know all of these signs.
You do.
There was big shot, honesty, my life, Rosalind's eyes.
And so back to the documentary, I promised Greg Bach that we would use Friday's history lesson this week and it would basically just be a Billy Joel appreciation segment.
But I'm going to tell you anyway here on this Monday as well.
You have until Friday now to go watch it.
I watched it on the HBO Max app.
It is just so good.
And it's so real, like it doesn't cross over like his mental health struggles and his, I mean, Christy Brinkley on the brink of tears as she's talking about their marriage.
It's not
a lot of people can get all four of their wives or ex-wives to appear in a documentary and speak from the heart about how much they still love him, but you know, there were the demons and the same.
Same goes with band members, you know, who've been with him for literally decades.
But again, as somebody who just loves great songwriting, the, what do they call it?
The beautiful torture that you go through writing what you hope is a hit.
But sometimes you're just writing from the heart and it and then his whole struggles with his early childhood and, you know, his father and everything else just makes it such a well done documentary.
I love
it when they tell the full story, because then it really gives you the insight to who this person is and where their artistic fire comes from.
Oh, and I love it when he was talking about, you know, meeting Christie Brinkley for the first time, you know, at a bar in the Caribbean, and it was her and Elle McPherson, and another model who was a surprisingly good singer by the name of Whitney Houston.
What?
What?
Where did that come from, you know?
Oh, I have to make a correction here.
There is a reason Sammy Hagar looks 10 years older.
He actually is 10 years older.
Troy and Madison points out that I'm an idiot at math and he is 78 years old.
Troy says
I was at his 60th party 18 years ago.
Rock
on Troy.
I know that that's a story.
Now that you you know how to use the text line or use
the
voice.
I want to hear some of those stories.
Exactly.
So anyway, so Sammy Hagar.
Yes, I'm looking at the math here.
78 years old today.
Alright, on this day in 1979, the number one song was by Michael Jackson.
Now I'm feeling a little bit better.
I know
well and again people of a certain age go.
Oh,
yeah, that's from off the wall Yes, it was the first track from his solo off the wall the first where he had creative control of his music rather than the people who were doing the music for the Jackson 5 and it would be the first of four singles off that album and really launch his his grown-up career, I guess you could say on this day in 1983
The first cellular network in the country was launched in the Chicago area by Ameritech.
That particular network is now part of Verizon.
Wait a minute, did you have one of those giant brick phones?
I did, yes.
And it was so cool.
It's like, look, I'm talking on a cellular phone and holding up this brick to your head.
And you thought that was the ultimate.
It's never going to get better than this.
You can take the phone with you.
It did get better.
It did
get
better.
It was still pretty cool.
That was 1983.
In 1984, the number one song was by Stevie Wonder.
Did that ever inspire you to call Sherry and be like, I'm having a moment right now, Sherry.
I'm just calling to say I love you.
Yeah, but
it wasn't that song, but I'm sure there were others.
This was from the soundtrack of the movie The Woman in Red back in 1984.
On this day in 2008, five months after marrying Jay-Z, Beyonce released a sassy song about it.
Y'all
miss Pat during his little hand flip?
Do a little hand flip.
Good job.
That's right, yep.
I didn't even see
it.
I can't do
the other part where you're like, you know, moving your arms and...
You could, I think.
I could.
With a little practice?
Yeah.
Maybe tomorrow.
Can we do this
tomorrow?
I think we can do
this.
I'll
train him up.
It would be the number one song for four weeks and win the Grammy for Song of the Year, again back in 2008.
A story that had a happy ending, a mining accident in Chile this week in 2010, came to a happy ending as all 33 miners who had been buried underground for 69 days arrived safely at the surface.
What an amazing rescue and I brought that up because I'm sure we have all forgotten about it But we needed that moment to remember something good that happened in the news and that happened this week in 2010
Amazing it would be amazing to talk with them about like it's been 15 years now Yeah, what was that like in retrospect and how did that change their lives?
I remember I don't know how long ago now two three years ago reading an article about it
and how everybody was doing surprisingly well, except for one person who never truly recovered from their PTSD of
dealing
with it.
But again, a by and large, a happy story.
And on this day in 2016, Bob Dylan was awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature, a category with winners like John Steinbeck and William Faulkner.
The award was given for having created new poetic expressions within the great American song tradition.
to which I would respond, honey, you know.
You have
to be able to hear them.
There is today's history lesson coming up after the seven o'clock news.
We will talk to Kristen more about the government shutdown because I mean, after all, what good is running the government if you can't fire the people who respond to Ebola outbreaks?
You know, little things like that.
That's coming up after the news live from Chippewa Falls.
I'm Pat Critello.
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Kristen Lyrely continuing with us now and her ongoing attempt to be interviewed by every media outlet on planet Earth, most recently from former hardball host Chris Matthews.
Bill Hardball host, he's just on sub-stack now instead of MSNBC.
Oh, okay.
So, yeah, looking through social media and that, yeah, there's you and Chris Matthews talking away, plus more.
We covered everything from, you know, RFK Junior and what's happening with our healthcare infrastructure to his prostate cancer treatment and his grandchildren.
It was wonderful.
Wow, okay.
Where did you go on RFK?
I mean, I suppose it's everything that we've already touched on here.
pretty much I mean he you know he is so steeped in politics but he's obviously very concerned about what's happening with RFK and whether some of the moves that he's making really are for the good of the public health and you know clearly he understands that they're not I understand that they're not so we talked about Tylenol in pregnancy and how there is no
causal link between Tylenol and autism in pregnant women.
We talked about the vaccine schedule and how RFK has fired all of the experts who sit on the ACIP, which is the board that recommends it looks at all of the data for all of the vaccines, including the VAERS reports, including
All of the VAERS reports are the adverse reports that people submit.
All of the new research that's coming in to change the vaccine schedule.
All of those experts are gone.
Now that is a politically motivated body.
We talked about kind of everything health related.
The STI recommendations, sexually transmitted infections, recommendations for managing people with complicated health histories.
We often need a little bit of help determining what kind of contraception is safe for them because it's not safe for everybody in every situation.
you have to really tailor your care to your patients always.
So a lot of those resources are housed at the CDC.
And when the CDC does not have...
people, they just not have experts in non-political positions.
It is really hard for doctors like me practicing in places like Wisconsin to be able to get the information I need to be able to take care of my patients.
The headline from Chris Matthews, and by the way, you can find it at thechrismathues.substack.com.
The title of the episode is Hardball with Chris Matthews, Michael Hill, and Paging Americas, Dr. Kristen Lierly.
Have we talked about Paging America?
Paging America is a podcast that the Committee to Protect Healthcare does, and I'm a frequent guest, but it's typically Miles Baker, who's the chief of staff for the organization, and then executive director Rob Davidson.
The Committee to Protect Healthcare is an organization of over 40,000 doctors in every state, all different specialties that focus our energy on
our patients and where we can get our wins and how we can actually move health policy forward to make a difference.
So we've worked on reproductive rights definitely.
We've been involved in the ballot initiatives all across the country in Ohio and Florida and everywhere.
We've worked on lowering drug prices in places like Minnesota where they were able to institute a board
to look at all of the drug prices and make sure that the pricing was appropriate and people, corporations couldn't run away with huge prices that patients couldn't afford.
So it's really patient-facing advocacy work and Paging America is kind of a doctor perspective.
They've got a really cool episode coming up probably this week with former CDC executive, Dimitri, I'm gonna mess his name up because he, it's a super Greek name, Dasakallis, I believe.
He's one of the CDC folks who left
during the original purge and is now speaking out about how dangerous this is for the public health infrastructure here in the US.
So that's on Chris Matthews' hardball that you can find on Substack.
We'll talk about Kristen's own weekend show coming up after the 7 o'clock news.
Tony asks on YouTube, what doesn't Kristen do?
And then a moment later he answers his own question.
Oh right, marathons.
Never mind.
Right, yeah, marathons are out.
All right, and then finally,
Parker's gonna share with us what's on the calendar for today.
I'll kick off the first one because it's breast cancer awareness day And so this is where again listen to the doctor as we talk about the the need to catch breast cancer early.
Yeah
we need to ensure that everybody has access to screening.
And not just screening, that's mammogram screening.
It's talking with your doctor about your risks.
Everybody has a different risk profile, so it's really important to know, do you have an elevated risk of breast cancer?
But it also means being able to get access to what happens after the screening.
If you do have an elevated risk, if you do have a mammogram that has a suspicious finding, you need to be able to get the follow-up studies.
And many people can't afford that.
That is one of the most frustrating things for me as a physician and certainly for my patients when they're looking at their own personal information and trying to figure out how am I going to pay for that additional ultrasound or other imaging study that I know I need but I can't afford.
We
can do better.
And breast cancer affects one in eight women in this country and it affects men too.
So this is something where we absolutely as a country can do better.
All right.
Parker, it's also a holiday today.
Yes, it is.
It is.
Oh, where are we?
There we are.
The one that says Indigenous People's Day.
Yeah.
Well, you said Indigenous People's Day already.
I bring it up again just to note that, again, it's not to people go, oh, you're anti-Italian, anti-Columbus.
No, no, no.
This is about Columbus, the slave holder and the colonial conquest bringing diseases all around the world, which of course means that Donald Trump praised him up and down the other day, essentially revoking Indigenous People's Day and redeclering the day as Columbus Day and saying things that were just shall we say,
say, well, the things your crazy uncle would say at Thanksgiving.
Isn't it ironic?
Like Columbus actually like like brought brought the immigrants here.
Yes.
Yes.
It was on Saturday Night Live on the weekend update.
They're like the the irony that nobody has been more responsible for bringing Hispanics to North America than Christopher Columbus.
Time has passed.
Yeah.
Again, it's people don't like the
the immigrants of this time, you know, they go back and go, oh, I can't believe anybody discriminated against the Irish.
Really?
Talk to some of the Irish and how their folks were treated.
Germans.
I mean, my grandpa's stories.
Yes.
Right.
On and
on.
On and on.
It goes.
All right.
Much more after the news here on these mornings with Pat Crite, low powered by Upkorn News on the Civic Media Radio Network.
We will be talking to State Representative Jody Emerson a little later on in the program as well.
Stick around.
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