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Good morning.
It is 6.06 on a Wednesday morning.
And are you prepared to hear this Wednesday morning, October 1st, 2025.
We have flipped the calendar.
We are in the fourth quarter of the year.
Christmas carols are not that far off.
Well, temperatures in the upper 80s are actually closer than that, thanks to a really unusually warm week that we're having here.
So listen for forecast details throughout the day.
You're on the Civic Media Radio Network, but yeah, we made it to October.
And I appreciate you being here from wherever you're spending your mornings up north listening to us, whether it's on the radio or through social media, through podcast, it's great to have you starting your day right here.
I do have another question for you.
Are you ready for a new member of Congress from Wisconsin, specifically from up north?
I know you've spent a lot of time talking about some of the other congressional districts in Wisconsin that may be at play in 2026, but there's going to be an open seat up north in the very large seventh congressional district where the incumbent Republican Tom Tiffany has decided to run for governor.
So that's going to open things up.
A lot of people have been talking about running for Congress up in Northern Wisconsin in the 7th District, and we are going to break a little news about that at 8.35 this morning.
So you're going to want to stick around until then, or you're going to want to come on back.
Better yet, you can also have this with you all the time as a podcast head over to Spotify and sign up and follow us.
And again, we'll be breaking a little news about the seventh congressional district 2026 election coming up in our final half hour together on this Wednesday morning.
Also coming up along the way, we are going to be talking about, of course, the federal government shutting down, which is exactly what Donald Trump and others who really don't like the government are doing.
What do I always say?
people who hate government the most should be trusted the least to run it competently.
And we are full of people right now who do not like our government, who do not like the services that it provides and are slashing and burning their way to tax cuts for the super wealthy at the expense of all kinds of health care, nutrition, farm, education, and other programs.
And the thing is they're still making up stuff about it.
Somehow making it sound like it's not their fault.
even though they're the ones who control the House, they control the Senate, they control the White House, and yet somehow they can't pass a federal budget.
And that's why we're shut down.
It's pretty much by design.
And by the way, this is not just at the federal government level.
There are state government programs that have gone away.
And again, Republicans are trying to blame anybody but themselves for it.
For example, we recently had the closure of two facilities.
in the state, including one here in Shippewa Falls that take care of homeless veterans and provide them with resources to get back on their feet and to get a permanent roof over their heads.
And Republicans in the legislature zeroed that out of the budget and yet somehow want to claim that it's not their fault that these programs came to an end.
And by the way, Congressman Derek Van Orden could have done something about it at the federal level and he chose not to.
So we'll tell you all about that coming up this morning.
We will also get to meet an hour from now, Ellie Bordeaux.
Ellie is the newest member of the team here at UpNorth News.
She puts together our weekday morning newsletter.
She's from EconomaWalk originally and is going to tell us all about her story and what it is she wants to do to make sure that the UpNorth News daily newsletter is appointment reading.
for all of you when you find it in your mailbox.
And we'll talk to Melissa Baldoff in our climate check segment during our eight o'clock hour about the Trump administration announcing this week they are going all in a massive investment of your tax dollars in coal, in bringing coal back to prominence.
I don't know how many of you have houses old enough to have a coal shoot, or you have to shovel coal into your furnace, but you might need to consider
building one because that's the direction this administration wants to go in.
So we'll talk to Melissa about that along the way.
Also along the way, we'll have your comments and questions.
If you care to share them, many ways to do it, you can head into the comment sections of Facebook and YouTube for Up North News or for Civic Media.
Better yet, get that Civic Media app and use the text feature.
and send us a note that way or use the voice note feature and record a little note for us.
And we may play it back as well.
And producer Parker Olson down in Madison Studio A2 tells us that the the phones, the phones are once again functional in Studio A2.
Good morning, Mr. Olson.
Can you confirm?
I can't over to the phone.
Okay.
Apparently he's got to talk sweetly to it or something to make sure that it works properly.
And, and we still believe this is the eight, five, five, seven, five civic phone number.
We do believe so.
I haven't used that number for so long.
Let's see if I can do it from muscle memory here.
Eight, five, five, seven, five civic eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.
Oh, hey, he did it.
So if you'd like to give that a go and Parker picks up and you tell him what you want to call about, there's a chance that he puts you on hold.
He lets me know all about it.
And then we get to talking about maybe the shutdown, who you think is to blame or how we get out of this.
Do Democrats end up caving in the end and giving up on trying to reinstate some of the health care cuts that Republicans made earlier this year?
Or do Republicans feel the pressure?
and restore some of those health care cuts that they made earlier this year.
Or you might want to go in a different direction altogether and say talk baseball, where there were four baseball games yesterday in the wildcard round.
Did you see any of them, Mr.
Yeah, that's.
my way.
Yeah, it was wallpaper.
Yeah, it was in it was in the background.
When I could watch the TV and I'll tell that story in a second here.
But for folks who didn't see the Cubs defeated the Padres three to one.
The Detroit Tigers defeated Cleveland two to one.
The Red Sox defeated the Yankees three to one.
And then late last night, the Dodgers stomped all over the Cincinnati Reds 10 to five.
So in all cases, now again, these are three game series all in the same ballpark and they're best two out of three.
So later today, the Cubs, the Tigers, the Red Sox and the Dodgers could advance to the National League division series or the Padres, the Guardians, the Yankees, the Reds could all tie it and force a deciding third game on Thursday.
We're all watching the Cubs and Padres because it's the winner of that series that comes to American Family Field come Saturday.
to kick off the National League division series and I for one, Parker, I'm very happy to have a couple of days off here for the for the Brewers to get healthy and ready to go.
Mm hmm.
A little recuperation.
Yes, Tony on YouTube.
How dare you suggest Cleveland loses today.
I did not suggest
I'm really
It's possible.
It could happen.
Tony, it's it's baseball.
That's what is what do they say?
That's why you play the game is to find out who's going to advance on this.
But sports are much more
Yeah.
So I mentioned that sometimes I could watch.
TV history, sometimes I could not because somebody from Spectrum came in and I almost made him faint.
When I showed him our setup down behind the, you know, the ceiling and the basement and everything.
At one point he's going through so many cords and he pulls this mess of coax out that I'm showing Parker
right
now.
It's all attached to some kind of an amplifier device.
And he's like, you don't need this anymore.
He just hands it to me and says, here, can you throw this away?
Okay, it's a splitter.
It's a power source.
It's a big old old fashioned coax cable.
And then he took something else out of out of there.
You have to keep in mind, we've been in that house for 30 years.
And we've had the cable has been run to different outlets in different rooms over the
years,
as we've changed things around.
But nothing's ever been taken out.
It's only been added.
So I
mean,
we look like an old fashioned, you know, telephone
switchboard down there in the basement.
And that poor fella had to figure out why occasionally we were having internet hiccups.
Because we got
It's a little counterproductive to try to do a radio show.
If your internets aren't working all the time.
And yet there were no spectrum outages in the area.
So we finally had to have a tech come out and he looked up to round down there.
It's like, I think I can find the problem.
And, and he did, he found that in one case, again, you know, the old style coax cables, you know, they're kind of rigid, they're a little flexible, but they're not supposed to bend at 90 degrees.
And one of them was real close to that because so many other cables and things had been bunched up and they're putting pressure on it.
And so he switched that out and he removed this amplifier thing that he said we didn't need anymore because again, we date back to analog signals and not digital signals.
I know I sound like again, like I'm burning coal in the furnace down in the basement here.
But it wasn't that terribly long ago that we had the latest technology.
It was it was analog technology, but it was the latest analog technology.
It was high tech
Yes, it was high techy tech.
So, you know, we we did a little cleaning up down there, shall we say now there's more cleanup to do because that involved removing a lot of the ceiling tiles,
you know,
kind of
the
fake ceiling such and that's so everything's kind of in the rafters down there in the basement.
But
Well, we'll get it all put back.
And it still looks, it looks clean enough above the ceiling tiles and below, of course, the main floor.
And I say that because we had the worst experience once with the fall ceiling in the basement.
It led to a moment of horror for any homeowner.
Close, close.
We were noticing
uh every so often we'd see and this is a few years back now we'd see a wasp and we'd kill it and we'd see another wasp we'd kill that and pretty soon we're notice like we have a lot of wasps you know those don't like it in
yeah and then we we I went downstairs and I noticed oh there's quite a few in that room it's it's it's a guest bedroom now it used to be a kid's playroom
That's a
Yeah, yeah, dude, guests are not going to want to come there.
I thought, well, how is this happening?
So I start to move one of the ceiling tiles with a broomstick because I don't want to get too close.
And I see something so horrific.
It made me want to both scream and vomit at the same time.
You know that space between the rafters, between the floor joists, whatever they're called there, you got about what 16 inches between them?
Yeah.
Was a wasp nest about six feet long.
Oh my God.
By that 16 inches or whatever.
What had happened was there used to be a dryer vent.
Again, as we're moving things around, we had moved the dryer vent at one point, thought we had sealed the hole well enough, had not and over
over a period of months and months, wasps had built a wasp nest that was, yeah, five to six feet long above the false ceiling in our basement.
We had to call in professionals who were like, yeah, you're going to need to leave the house for a little while here and bug bomb that place and clean it all up.
and we haven't had a problem since.
But you know, the wasp nest, I mean, it's a nice little bees nest.
Oh, look at the little honeycomb.
Yeah, no, looks looks kind of like an alien.
It's an alien skin or something.
Yeah, it is.
It is horrific.
And you you see this thing.
And as you see, it's getting longer and larger and larger.
And it was like a horror movie.
I
go upstairs, I'm like, we are gonna have to leave for a little while.
We're not coming back.
So no wasps this time and the cable that may finally be in the 21st century.
Here's hoping.
Till the next, you know, big new technology that I'm gonna be horribly out of date dealing with.
We will talk about different kind of dysfunction.
That would be the shutdown of the federal government that's coming up in just a moment.
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That you can sign up for it up with news wi.com It includes our question of the week which you've heard me mentioned before is you know Who's who's gonna cave?
How is this government shutdown going to end?
You know, for example, the last time there was a government shutdown It ran for 35 days.
There was a lot of inconvenience.
It cost the economy
a lot.
It was extremely expensive, extremely unnecessary, and Donald Trump forced that one as well.
It was back in 2019, and he got nothing by the time it was all said and done.
He made some kind of symbolic claim of victory, but he shut things down because he was demanding more money for building a wall at the border.
He brought so much disruption to people's lives for
his little pet project rather than, you know, embracing comprehensive immigration reform, which would have improved border security and helped make sure that people can be processed, come to this country and work and feel safe and secure and not feel like masked secret police are going to beat them and round them up, which is hardly what you want for America 2025.
So how does this one end?
Because again, the Republicans took away
more than a trillion dollars in Medicaid, they're gonna jack up everybody's health insurance premiums later this year.
Even if you don't get your insurance off the Affordable Care Act marketplace, chances are you're gonna see a premium hike as well to help offset the increased healthcare costs of what Republicans did.
So Democrats are saying, look, if you wanna pass a federal budget and you can't agree amongst yourselves and you need our vote, here's our price.
Put some of these healthcare cuts back.
Of course, Trump and Republicans saying, no,
would like to keep those cuts and they are happy shutting down the government and inflicting pain.
They were willing to do it in 2019.
They're willing to do it now.
So we're in a case of who blinks first, which is completely unnecessary, foolish and juvenile.
But again, as I say, the people who hate government the most should be trusted the least to run it competently.
Now we're getting that proved once again.
It is not the, let me say another
thing about that.
There were a couple of votes yesterday in the Senate about trying to avoid a government shutdown.
And there was a proposal by Democrats that said, look, we will go along through opening the government if you extend the Affordable Care Act subsidies that are set to expire at the end of this year.
And of course, the Republicans voted along party lines.
No, so they are on record saying they want
health insurance to cost more next year.
There's also things like the National Park Service says they're going to keep the parks largely open, even though there are a lot of concerns about damage and overflowing garbage cans and toilets and things like that that happened during the last government shutdown.
Trump also says he'd love to see more federal job cuts, not just furloughs, but actually firing people.
And he said when asked about that, he said, well, they're going to be Democrats anyway.
I mean, what a point of view to have on your fellow Americans is to say, well, if you're working for the federal government to help and serve other people, you must be a Democrat.
Not that that's an insult, but again, talk about a broad sweeping generalization and somebody who could not care less if government functions properly or not.
But by the way, not the only instance where you have Republicans trying to blame Democrats for damage that they're causing.
Earlier this month came the end of some facilities for homeless veterans, one of them here in Chippewa Falls.
And as a result, that one and the other in Green Bay, they closed officially on September 12th.
They, you know, from the budget money ran out for it yesterday.
And there's a story behind this.
Governor Evers did allocate $1.9 million in his budget request to keep the program running.
Republicans didn't want to put $1.9 million into it, so you know how every time they take Governor Evers' budget and they just trash it, they zero out everything and then they write their own budget?
Well, they never wrote anything in for that line.
They never replaced the $1.9 million with maybe, say, a smaller amount.
Give a listen to State Senator Diane Hesselbein, the Senate Democratic leader, as she explains not only that Republicans in the legislature refused two other attempts to put it in, but that Congressman Derek Van Orden could have maybe requested federal funds for this as well.
He could have requested the funds needed to keep the facility in Chippewa Falls open, but he didn't.
which was surprising given his made-up involvement with our state budget to begin with.
He could actually have done something and proven to be a winner, but he didn't.
He did nothing.
We are here fighting for our veterans.
We were ready to vote on this in joint finance.
We were ready to vote on the amendment that came to the floor, and we are still standing strong on these standalone bills.
We can get this done.
We are willing to work together.
Not only that, we want to work together.
but unfortunately it's the Republicans decision to vote these efforts down to close these facilities and to turn their backs on Wisconsin veterans.
That has been their choice and their solution.
And it was seconded by Republican State Senator Eric Wimberger of the Green Bay Area who again loves to put out the press releases attacking Governor Evers saying well he could have just moved the money from some other pot into that.
it's not that easy and he knows that.
He knows the legislature would have to approve any kind of fund transfer like that.
So rather than that, why not own up to your mistake and vote, have a clean vote on putting the money back into homeless veterans rather than playing politics with it.
It just makes no sense.
But then again, I've watched and for some people, it seems to make perfect sense to them.
Today's history lesson starts with a little Johnny Carson after this.
You're up north.
From beautiful downtown Burbank it's the Tonight Show starring Johnny Carson.
Johnny Carson took over as host of NBC's Tonight Show on this day in 1962 and that the theme there which became ubiquitous with 1030, 1035 weeknights was originally written by Paul Anka for Johnny Carson.
Let's see.
We've got another TV note here, and I wish we had our friend Dan Hagen from Channel 12 in Rhinelander because it's their anniversary today.
Wow.
Happy anniversary to WJFW, News Watch 12.
Signed on this day in 1966 with the call letters W-A-E-O.
I don't know if that was supposed to stand for something, but they're now WJFW.
Yes, and so now we better we've got to ring up Dan Hagen or talk to him next week about this Maybe pop quiz see if he even knows maybe
But Madison that's like like a like an airport abbreviation type thing.
uh
Something like that.
I assumed
something.
Let's see.
Walt Disney World opened this day in 1971, so 54 years ago today.
And then in 1982, Epcot opened at Disney.
Epcot standing for the Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow.
Have you, what is your Disney World Epcot history?
never
Never been.
Okay.
All right.
Have you been?
So no Disney World.
No, it's a small world.
No Cinderella's Castle.
No Epcot.
did.
We took our girls there in the early 90s when they were four and six years old and it was as magical as you would expect.
And then a couple of years back, my younger daughter took their kids when they were like...
three and six or two and five, something like that.
So the younger one won't have many memories of it, but they had a lot of fun.
Oh, yeah, sure.
You know, and it's funny when you spend that kind of money and you take the kids to Disney World and the things that they like, you know, are the things that didn't really cost anything, you know, like that's
one of
the hotels had like a little sandy beach area.
And the sandy beach was the thing that they really liked, you know, it's like
You remember Mickey Mouse was there too, right?
Okay.
Anyway, Tony says that Epcot was the least interesting of the different kingdoms.
The animal kingdom was amazing.
Yeah, there's all these and then of course, now you've got the non Disney option of Universal Studios in all
their
parks.
And so they're
There is so much to see there and again it all started with Disney World opening this day in 1971.
The Beach Boys released their first album, Surf and Safari, on this day in 1962.
They got a
little better.
This was their initial entry into the music world with surfing.
Look at this from my good friend Melissa Schrader says, Pat, W-A-E-O stands for former Congressman Alvin E. Okonsky.
Oh!
That makes perfect sense now.
There we go.
Thank you, Melissa.
That's awesome.
Let's see, the Bradley Center in Milwaukee opened on this day in 1988 and would operate as the Bradley Center till 2018.
On this day in 1908 Ford offered the Model T automobile for a price of $825.
So back in 1908, $825.
We'll get you a brand new Model T right off the assembly line.
Poor Parker.
Money means nothing to him now.
These numbers are so
Wow, yeah Happy birthday to Actress Julie Andrews.
She is 90 years old today
I guess I could have had to do the
title team from the sound of music but you know a lot of folks know her from that and gosh so many other so many other movies along the way as well
Let's see, Zach Galifianakis is 56 years old today.
Actress Brie Larson is 36.
The late Donnie Hathaway, the singer, was born this day in 1945, passed away in 1979.
You have a certain age, you know, my age, will be familiar with peaches and herb.
Here was their big hit, Reunited.
There we go.
This is the birthday for the herb of peaches and herb.
Herbert Feemster is 83 years old today
Now
the thing with peaches and herb is that Herbs always been there, but there's been more than one peach Well, they go bad
seven no no no seven different women have filled the role of peaches and Since and that's since he started the little group in 1966
Right here, we're hearing Linda Green.
She is the third of the seven peaches, and it's with her that they had their big hits reunited.
And of course, shake your groove thing.
Shake your groove thing.
Yeah, yeah.
On this day in 1975, the Thrilla in Manila, Muhammad Ali defeated Joe Frazier in their third and final boxing match.
Frazier failed to win back his heavyweight title conceding after the 14th round.
Now back then you didn't get to see major events like that live on TV.
You could go to like sports arenas and do pay-per-view and it would be put up on a massive screen.
But then it would be on TV like a week or two later.
And part of the reason I don't get into ultimate fighting today or even boxing is having grown up watching Muhammad Ali.
It's like, I mean, there's, there's just nobody.
Nobody's going to be better.
Nobody.
And it was just to watch him as a boxer was to watch, you know, the poetry of that sport.
And I know there's a lot about boxing and being violent and everything else.
But if you're going to watch it, you watch those fights.
On this day in 1982, Donald Fagan of Steely Dan released his solo album, The Night Fly.
On this day in 1903,
The first game of the modern world series as the Boston Americans would play the Pittsburgh Pirates.
The number one song this day in 1983 was by Bonnie
Tyler.
Now
that made Bonnie Tyler the first singer from Wales to top the charts.
It was one of so many epic songs that were written by the late Jimmy Steinman.
And I believe we'll talk more about Jimmy Steinman in a week or two in the history lesson because he had all the bad out of hell and paradise by the dashboard light.
All these other epic songs and totally clips of the heart was one of them.
All right, kind of a melancholy anniversary note to share.
It was
On this day, eight years ago, that a gunman opened fire in Las Vegas during Jason Aldean's set at the Route 91 Harvest Festival from his suite to cross the way at the Mandalay Bay Hotel.
He would shoot nearly 500 people, wounding 413 people, killing 60 in the deadliest mass shooting in US history.
Again, he shot...
about 500 people after firing more than a thousand rounds.
And it was in large part because of something called bump stocks.
And for a time in the wake of that shooting, there was a ban on bump stocks, but the conservative justices on the US Supreme Court last year struck it down.
As we have certain politicians, including those in Judge's robes, who continue to choose mass murderers over public safety.
All right, there's everything that's on the anniversary calendar.
Let's look at things on the national day calendar for today I don't have Bonnie Tyler here in my CD collection, but this is national CD player day It is and so during the last break when I saw that Parker I went over I've got a cabinet that we never open and that's where all the CDs are and so I just grabbed I just grabbed a fistful This is a representative sample of the CDs that haven't been played in years.
So we got still on
ZZ Top, Greatest Hits.
ZZ Top, nice.
Got that.
With your classic, you know, model on the back who's posing for no reason whatsoever.
Of course.
Here's the Police and Synchronicity, one of my favorite albums of the late 1980s.
Here's Prince's Greatest Hits, Volume 1 is on there.
Oh, here's a great one.
Oh boy.
Bonnie Raitt, Bonnie Raitt, Nick of Time.
Absolutely.
If this is not in your record collection, get Bonnie Rates, Nick of Time from 1992, I believe.
And oh, here's a Lionel Richie, greatest hits one, called Back to Front on there.
There's so many.
If I started rattling all these off, all the things in the CD collection, my doorbell would ring at some point, and I would be escorted to the old folks home and say, OK, grandpa, that's
going to
take your CDs with you.
Real it in.
Yep, yep, exactly.
So this is National CD Player Day.
This is National Walk Your Dog Week.
I don't I don't have a dog to walk.
I do.
I do have a neighbor's dog that I walk occasionally.
Has a lot of spirit.
And I'm I'm afraid it's going to pull our elderly neighbor down.
So I tried to go wear out some of the energy on that little furball.
Today is a pumpkin seed day.
You like pumpkin seeds roasted?
OK, I do.
I do like them roasted.
I just I bet you I just haven't happened for quite a while so I'm gonna have to change that.
And this is breast cancer awareness month and again we say it all the time we can't say it enough to to get all of your screenings done whether it's for breast cancer or
Let's just say all the things, all the things that could take you out is go do that.
I had my follow up with the sleep specialist yesterday.
yeah.
About the CPAP machine.
Seeing a lot of improvement.
Yeah.
Yes, very much so.
You know, your CPAP machine, like everything else in the world talks to the internet.
And so that's what it does.
It sends data back to wherever and and she looked it all up and it's like, oh, you're doing really good.
You're breathing and everything else.
And that's fine.
But again, it just
It troubles me a bit that my CPAP machine is connected to the Internet.
And, you know, these Internet devices are all the time listening to you.
So what's one of the odds that my CPAP machine hears me talking in my sleep?
And next thing I know, there's an Amazon package the next day for something I didn't even know I needed, but it came up in my dreams.
I think it's listening to your dreams, Pat.
That's what I'm saying.
And if it listens to my dreams, what's it going to order?
Yeah, I don't know.
What are you dreaming about?
Well, that's just it.
I'm one of those who I don't know.
You don't know.
You wake up and for a split second, you're sure you remember everything.
And then it's like, it's just all good.
And there's nothing to not bring it back.
I know and other people it's like, you know, color TV, you know, they just everything they can remember every little detail.
And what ends up happening to me now and then is again, Sherry will be talking about something and I'll just blur it out.
Oh my gosh, I had a dream about that.
Then I'll tell her about some stupid dream and she'll look at me for interrupting her like, I am going to drive you to the old folks home right now and just have just be done with you.
But I just just wanted to share the dream because it's so rare that it finally comes in.
I mean, yeah, that's fair.
I'm so I'm so easily entertained here.
Still, still ahead.
Parker's going to give us some some of his entertainment news stories for the day.
That'll be coming up.
And then in our seven o'clock hour, we will be talking with Ellie Bordeaux.
She is the new newsletter editor for Up North News.
She's from Akama Walk, and she joined us just a few weeks ago.
And we figure she's had enough
orientation at this time.
So it's time for the hazing to begin, which includes having to make an appearance on this radio show.
And I have a feeling she'll pass the audition and you'll see her or hear her on most Wednesdays.
So that'll be along the way here.
Of course, in our eight o'clock hour, Earl Ingram will tell us what's going on as part of the what's going on podcast that he does through civic media.
Melissa Baldoff will talk about the Trump administration announcement on Monday that they're going all in.
on greatly expanding America's use of coal.
Okay.
And then big announcement at 830, about the 7th congressional district and somebody who may be running for Congress from here up north, no Tony, it's not me.
Live from the lake, I'm Pat Quitelow.
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And as always, park girls are intrepid entertainment and features reporter is scouring through the interwebs for
the, what he thinks is going to be the quintal essential story, the water cooler story that you'll be talking about.
Like, for example, what is a water cooler?
Nobody gathers around those anymore.
It's also all, it's all just a metaphor these days.
So where, where do you go?
What, what do you guys got out there?
You got a box of donuts, I guess that you guys stand around and talk,
That's true.
There actually is a water cooler at Civic Media right outside the conference room there.
That's right.
There's a water cooler.
Yeah, yes.
I know that you're
used to working at home.
All right,
yes.
It goes glug glug glug and everything.
It does.
It does go glug glug
So as you all down there stand around outside of Studio A1 and discuss the world, what do you got for us?
What are we talking about?
You can stream everything everywhere it seems.
I mean, my goodness.
Come on, this show is streaming.
Everybody gets a stream.
You get a stream.
You get a stream.
The middle-aged man, not so much.
Go see your doctor first.
But everybody else gets a stream.
Roberto Clemente, of course, the baseball player who had just gotten 3000 hits, if memory serves, and was helping deliver earthquake relief supplies to Nicaragua when he died in a plane crash and was gone far too soon.
And it was, it was all about somebody who is was truly destined to become one of the all time greats, not just on the field, but as you can tell, off the field as well.
Okay, that makes sense.
Yep.
Does it?
Yeah.
I didn't know.
Oh, yeah, he's been branching into entertainment.
That is definitely a topic that people in this day and age need to know more about.
You know, he doesn't have the name recognition that that he used to have.
So I'm glad to hear that.
So again, look for the sports documentary Clemente is the name of it.
So how's Dolly Parton's health?
What's this about her canceling a show?
She's a 79 year old woman.
Well, yeah, my mom is 79 and I cannot think that she would be taking to the stage in Vegas and doing a full show.
So I, you know, I'm not fault.
I really hope she gets better.
I hope whatever she's got has her back on the mend and has her performing again real soon.
So get better soon, Dolly.
I love this.
fuss about a story that you're bringing me about an actress the latest hot new actress and people are very unhappy with this hot new actress Parker.
They are tilly norwood.
real.
an
So what's your story?
Where did she come from?
Also a director, also a physicist apparently, which is a weird combination.
So it was created by that Dutch person and apparently acting agencies are going after the AI actress to have in like movies and stuff.
And as you would imagine, Hollywood actual actors are not happy.
No, they're not because part of the last writer strike dealt with AI and again, making sure that that entertainment is done, you know, by artists by by actual human actors and actresses.
And so now there's there's real backlash here, including a statement from the Screen Actors Guild.
that says creativity is and should remain human centered.
To be clear, Tilly Norwood is not an actor.
It's a character generated by a computer program that was trained on the work of countless professional performers without permission or compensation.
It has no life experience to draw upon.
It has no emotion.
And from what we've seen, audiences aren't interested in watching computer generated content untethered from the human experience.
Well, I'm not sure that that last part is true.
I don't think
people will definitely watch things that are AI generated.
But the part in the middle, I hope people caught because you can't have AI without the computers being able to go back and grab other things that have been digitized movies, TV shows, human voices, and all of that.
And it's to that end that I mean, in some ways, with permission,
Some people's likenesses can last forever.
You know, I think James Earl Jones's estate You know license his voice and so now you can make him say anything But you got to have the license to do it But if you're just grabbing stuff off the internet and these actors actresses animators everybody else if they haven't been properly compensated Then yeah, the law should have something to say about that.
the actor who just passed away.
Yeah.
I'm a
Again.
we're not we're not getting rid of it.
And so it really is just a matter of where are the guardrails?
Where are the things that just because you can do it, doesn't mean that it's right to do it if somebody isn't being fairly compensated or if you're using it to well, the way Donald Trump was using AI videos over the weekend, you know, to put a sombrero on Hakeem Jeffries, and make Chuck Schumer say words that he didn't say.
You
know,
so you're adding racism and line to videos from the president of the United States.
So, yeah, Tilly Norwood, if you want to appear in Donald Trump commercials, that's your business.
But let's get you licensed from the people who actually inspired whatever it is you are, because what you are ain't real.
More after the seven o'clock news, I'm Pat Crightlow.
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