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The Thought Police Take to the Airwaves (Hour 1)
Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Tue Sep 16, 2025
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Now, from our Lake WSOTA studio, here is the founding editor of Up North News, Pat Kratlow.
Good morning.
It's a Tuesday morning, September 16th, 2025, 6.06 in the morning.
A beautiful morning to have you here up north, live from Lake WSOTA for more every year listening across the Civic Media Radio Network on social media by app podcast.
Nice to have you here getting this Tuesday underway.
A Tuesday that started mostly dry across most of Wisconsin, but in the past hour or so, some showers and I'm sure some rumbles of thunder started up this morning.
Brittany Merlot will be around in an hour, but right now they've got an area of showers and thunderstorms that have popped up, stretching from Stanley to Lady Smith to Phillips.
There's another area around Boston, another area just north of Nassida.
pretty much just in line with what Brittany was forecasting, saying that there would be some early showers or storms in north central Wisconsin this morning.
But then she says it's going to be sunny and summery everywhere as the day goes on with highs in the 80s and a southeast wind at about 10 miles an hour.
Again, plenty more details coming up from her later this morning.
I got a question for you.
Who gets to determine if something you say is protected by the First Amendment?
And should it be politicians, especially potentially unstable politicians ruled by emotion in the wake of a political act of violence?
I have some thoughts on this that I'm gonna share around 622 by my calculations, 15 minutes from now.
Naturally, it ties in to Congressman Derek Van Orden still ongoing quest to use his official office
To punish people he doesn't like, even threatening to defund one of the biggest cities in his congressional district.
How's that for representation?
Well, to that end, coming up one hour from now, Eau Claire City Council President Emily Berge will be with us.
She's also a candidate for Congress who got into the race in part because she was tired of her congressmen ignoring or even trashing her hometown.
She's got thoughts on what's been happening with him recently.
Also, to hear the Speaker of the House tell it, Republicans have no interest in working with Democrats to reach a budget deal and avoid a government shutdown, even though GOP members can't agree amongst themselves how to write a budget.
Democrats are demanding that Republicans dismantle a health care cost bomb that's going to skyrocket health insurance premiums.
But Speaker Mike Johnson seems content to watch families endure health care sticker shock.
We're going to talk to courier newsrooms cam stevensson in our eight o'clock hour live from capitol hill and at eight thirty we'll visit with dan schaefer from the recombobulation area with the latest on the wisconsin governor's race what with kelderoy's getting in the race uh yesterday all right we've passed along the uh the forecast the the brewers they were off the the packers didn't play either but
They sure seem to be in the news for one good reason.
So let's bring in Parker Olson, who produces everything down in Madison Studio A2 Forest.
Mr. Olson, good morning.
How are you?
I'm good.
You know, probably not as good as the people at, you know, Amazon Prime or the Green Bay Packers or CBS, because I guess for the second week in a row now, the Packers have helped set ratings records.
Wow.
So I mean, we are America's team.
I mean, we've known that we yeah, that's Dallas, you know, you don't want to hurt their feefies.
So you let them, you know, keep the moniker.
But we know, according to Drake Bentley, an article in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the Packers Commanders game was the most watched Thursday night football game on Amazon Prime ever.
Wow, Neilson reporting an average of 17.7 million viewers, a peak of 20 million viewers.
watching the Packers beat Washington 27 18.
And by the way, the previous all time high for Amazon Prime was also a Packer game last December against the Lions.
And like I said, it was the second week in a row.
The Packers gave a network historic viewership ratings.
CBS says that the season opener Packers against Detroit.
That was their most watched week one game since 1998.
Oh,
I mean, that's that's why Parker that is well pre for BC, you know, this isn't BC.
This is PP.
This is pre Parker that, you know, we were setting those kinds of ratings, but but the Packers do that.
Just nothing wrong talking a little smack here.
Of course, that game against the Browns will be next Sunday at noon on several civic media stations.
So you can check out the website for that brewers were off yesterday.
They are taking on the Los Angeles Angels.
The Los Angeles Angels again for those who don't speak Spanish Parker translates into
Coverage begins at 605 on some stations across the civic media radio network.
These days now, again, the brewers had that 19 games and 18 day stretch.
And I don't, I don't, you know, you don't want that you want the team to have some days off.
But I got to admit those off days, sometimes around a Thursday, sometimes around a Monday, I kind of wander around the house here and I'm like, What do I do now?
What do I do?
It's like, I mean, we do watch things on TV.
So what we ended up doing was we watched the second half of the Emmys, because of course, we can't stop that
So even though there was a bit of a spoiler alert, shall we say, on, you know, who was going to get the awards, we still wanted to see it.
We wanted to see how Nate Bargatzi got through the whole conundrum of, you know,
Taking money away from the boys and girls club if people went over there a lot of time for their speeches
just going back to the same well over and over again.
Oh, yeah.
Every every joke is starting to wear out.
It's welcome because you could see people wanted to say more, be more thankful.
But of course, they were trying to they were feeling the pressure of the time.
Yeah.
Other people did not feel that pressure at all.
Yeah.
Don't you love those speeches where it's like, wow, they really don't care if the orchestra tries to play them off.
They are just going to talk.
Yeah.
And
But they only get that microphone that one time and you you would have to literally wrestle it out of their hands.
And that's that's why when when we said our DVR.
And it always comes up with this little thing now.
This is a live event.
Do you want to add an extra half hour?
Do you want to add an extra hour?
Like, yes, add the extra half hour because there's nothing like recording something and then boom, it runs out and it's not done.
DVR, sorry.
You still use that?
Yeah.
Oh, not just not just any DVR.
Again, keep in mind, I'm a man in my 60s.
It's a Tevo, which we got back in 1999.
Yeah, one of the one of the original DVRs, we got that with a little it makes a little bloop sound for everything.
So we don't talk about, you know, sometimes you freeze a program.
And that way, when you when you run it back a little bit later on, you can skip through the commercial breaks.
Tony's right there on YouTube saying Tevo is a modern marvel.
Thank you, Tony.
Thank you.
I mean, what what do you I mean, again, if you're streaming, yeah, you can stop, you can pause and all that.
But if it's a live show on one of the networks or something, how are you?
How do you watch it otherwise?
I
Let's say the Super Bowl is on CBS or something like that and yeah Turns out you got to go you got to go run this errand and and you'll be back an hour later So you're gonna watch it then you're just gonna miss that hour You have no way of recording something you really want to see
Yeah, the Internet's and that's the only way that it works out.
All right.
I understand.
So yeah, that's it's it's a it's a deviant.
digital video recorder, which again, for me, like Tony, it's a modern marvel because I remember having to record or set a time to record on the VCR.
And the VCRs, the video cassette recorders had these tiny little buttons, or if you're using the remote, you maybe had to push a button over and over again, like you want to record something at 12 o'clock.
So you have to hit it, it says one, hit the button to hit the button three, hit the button four, hit the button five, hit the button six.
And God forbid it's at 630.
Thank goodness we don't record.
There's no shows on at 650, you know.
But I mean, this is I never really considered my life to be a struggle, but you're making it sound like I was living in little house on the prairie in a sod hut when it comes to having to record TV shows.
Turns out they're good for views too.
We got our weekly report on the most watched stories on Up North News, the most engaged stories.
our highest rated TikTok video of the past week was simply what's new on the Lambo Field menu.
Remember, we went through all those foods.
They're new at Lambo Field.
Yeah, 100,000 views, more than 500 shares on there because people love their packers and people love their food.
And you start throwing little, you know, Wisconsin ties into that food with little, little brats and the other things that we were talking about recently.
People like to share that stuff.
Yeah,
Also, our most watched, most engaged story on Facebook of the past week was about a Madison company working on a blood test that detects cancers earlier.
And that got 327,000 views for a story that was originally reported by the Wisconsin State Journal that we were telling people about.
And then over on Instagram,
Looks like one of our highest posts of the past few days was pretty recent.
It was the first post where we noticed that while other leaders were trying to tone down the confrontational outbursts after the Charlie Kirk murder Congressman Derek van Orden was just getting warmed up He was just starting to fan the flames of violent rhetoric and political threats and that got 35,000 views of people who were looking at that saying
Should a member of Congress really be doing that?
And he still is.
And we're going to talk about it in just a moment.
First, from the heart of America's Up North, live from Lake Wissota.
Thanks for making this the place to spend part of your mornings.
I'm Pat Crightlow.
This is the Civic Media Radio Network.
But first, we've got to get back to current events, which are unfortunately a little bit more serious.
Before we get to Congressman Derek Van Orden taking the next step toward politicians, policing your free speech, let's see where he's getting some of his ideas.
For example, from the vice president of the United States, who on Monday guest hosted Charlie Kirk's former radio show from his government office.
And the vice president used the show to threaten to bring the resources of the United States government down on anyone who they accuse of harboring views that they consider to be worthy of infringing.
All across the Trump administration, cabinet secretaries and federal department heads are spending their time and your tax dollars to identify organizations that they believe fund or support violence against conservatives.
The goal they told the New York Times was to categorize left-wing activity that led to violence as domestic terrorism.
An escalation that critics say could lay the groundwork for crushing anti-conservative dissent more broadly.
Of course, this current government is without many of the men and women who had been investigating actual domestic terrorism.
they've been let go or they've been reassigned to immigration duty since the White House didn't like the reality that the bulk of the work that was being done to keep America safe was to keep America safe from far-right groups.
From ProPublica, they write the White House's redirecting counterterrorism personnel and funds toward a sweeping deportation campaign
Claiming the southern border is the greatest domestic security threat facing the country.
There have been millions in budget cuts that have gutted terrorism-related law enforcement training and shut down studies studying the frequency of attacks.
It's all part of a swing in focus that started with the president's clemency for those who stormed the U.S.
Capitol on January 6th.
In other words, it's the Trump White House that's asleep at the switch when it comes to protecting the country.
But now that one of their own has been a victim, the focus is not on public safety, but on partisan vengeance.
One of Trump's cabinet secretary, Sean Duffy, is relishing this chance to play big brother.
I mean the government form of Big Brother, not the reality series Big Brother, but he probably wishes he could have.
Duffy, of course, was on road rules, which is why Donald Trump thought he was qualified to be the United States Secretary of Transportation.
Anyway, Duffy not only celebrated recent discipline against pilots who used their free speech to comment on the Charlie Kirk murder,
He made the big government leap to equating bad thoughts with bad performance, saying of the airlines, quote, any company responsible for the safety of the traveling public cannot tolerate that behavior.
That behavior, of course, again, being free speech.
But in their mind, having a contrary opinion makes you dangerous at your job.
But of course, that's how Duffy got his job in the first place.
Recall what Trump said in nominating Duffy that he was going to, quote, make our skies safe again by eliminating DEI for pilots and air traffic controllers.
In other words, if any women or black Americans were pilots or air traffic controllers in Trump's view, they were less qualified.
Now, where have I heard that before?
Oh yeah, Charlie Kirk, January 23rd, 2024, quote, if I see a black pilot, I'm going to be like, boy, I hope he's qualified.
So if having the wrong skin color makes you a dangerous pilot in the minds of Donald Trump and his cabinet, why wouldn't having political opinions you don't like also make you dangerous?
That's some big government stuff right there and that takes us back to Congressman Van Orden.
It's one thing to tweet about using the government to harass or penalize someone for their thoughts and opinions.
It's another to introduce a bill to actually do that.
You know who introduced a bill to do that on Monday?
Derek Van Orden.
His office announced a new bill that would prohibit federal funds from going to entities employing those who condone and celebrate political violence and domestic terrorism.
And if that sounds okay to you, let me ask you this.
Whose job is it to determine if someone is, quote, condoning political violence and who gets to decide what crosses the line into political violence?
After all, we've lost track of the number of times Derek Van Orden, a member of Congress,
has referred to Democrats as, quote, domestic terrorists.
Would he introduce that kind of a bill today if Democrats were the ones in charge?
I mean, think back to the days of Senator Barack Obama, Senator Hillary Clinton, Senator Ted Kennedy.
If back then any of them said they wanted this kind of law, Republicans would be talking about burning down the Capitol and lashing out at so-called thought police.
But of course, we know they've already done a dress rehearsal for burning down the Capitol and now they're the ones who want the thought police enshrined into law With any luck this whole episode eventually simmers down at the moment We hope it's just emotional flailing from emotional men like Van Orden and Duffy and Vance and Trump Their feelings get hurt so easily and they lash out so hard and it's understandable to be hurt when someone close to you is murdered
Ask any parent who's lost a child in a school shooting as they watch politicians do nothing about the real world.
So let's get back to the real world and what Van Ord and others should be working on.
One, we are closing in on the possibility of a government shutdown.
Two, we are closing in on a date when a bunch of Americans are going to see their health insurance premiums skyrocket.
if the Affordable Care Act supports aren't renewed.
Three, we're about to see farmers in a world of hurt because the crops are going to come in and there's no place to put everything that China isn't buying.
Grocery prices are still out of hand.
The job market is getting softer.
And the people who promised to focus like a laser on making things affordable are busy reading your social media posts and deciding if you should be punished.
Do not let them intimidate or silence you.
You are allowed to have opinions.
You have that freedom.
Don't take that away from yourself.
That's what Derek Van Orden and JD Vance and others actually want.
They want the intimidation and self-censorship.
Don't let it happen to you because it sure as hell ain't happening over here.
Today's history lesson after this.
You're up north.
This was the number one song this day in 1972.
I
figured
made illegal because it's allegedly divisive.
So that was Three Dog Night, the number one song this day, 53 years ago, 1972.
On this day in 1620, the Pilgrims set sail from Plymouth, England in the Mayflower.
About 102 passengers, about two dozen crews seeking a fresh start in a new world.
It would be a two month journey that took them to present day Massachusetts.
We mentioned yesterday that
Hispanic.
Hispanic.
You can do it.
You can do it.
I forgot.
Heritage.
There you go.
The word heritage.
I had culture back there.
Hispanic Heritage Month started yesterday and that is because it marked Independence Day for several Central American countries and coincidentally today.
Mexico began its 11-year fight for independence from Spain on this day in 1810.
It would take 11 years, but would finally happen for Mexico.
All right, let's get to some birthdays here.
Flo Rida, who played the Northern Wisconsin State Fair not that long ago, has a birthday today and is 46 years
James.
I don't remember anymore.
There was a story about Flo Rida.
Not just me.
It's Hispanic Heritage Month, by the way.
uh let's do another birthday here singer martin mark anthony is 57 today all right i got some milwaukee baseball notes here robin yout the kid is 70 years old today that's gonna date some folks robin yout happy birthday happy 70th
There was a no-hitter thrown at County Stadium in Milwaukee on this day in 1960 and that would be Milwaukee Braves future Hall of Fame pitcher Warren Spahn who no hit the Philadelphia Phillies 4-0 at County Stadium this day 65 years ago.
And on this day in 1996 Paul Molleter joined the 3000 Hit Club.
The Brewers legend was with the Minnesota Twins at the time but Paul Molleter hitting number 3000.
on this day 29 years ago.
On this day in 1984 we're back doing a TV series premieres and this brand new show called Miami Vice made its debut with a two-hour episode that included a scene that featured a Phil Collins hit that everybody now associates with Miami Vice.
See, you couldn't resist, could you?
You could not resist playing some air drums.
Parker couldn't resist.
You
You just have to.
It's mandatory.
Again, Miami Vice making its debut in 1984.
Story I've told before, that was when we were engaged, planning a wedding.
And there was a Miami Vice line of tuxedos.
And of course, in Miami Vice, everybody wore these different very bright pastel colors.
And so instead of like black tuxes,
your groom's men could be basically look like a rainbow.
There was like a pastel blue, yellow, orange, a key lime green.
We threatened our friends with the Miami Vice theme for the wedding, but instead we went for the classy.
The royal blue and the charcoal tux.
And of course, huge, huge shoulders because that's what we wore in the 80s.
Shoulder pads for everybody.
There weren't necessarily the ruffled shirts or the top hats, although I suppose you could have got those optional.
But yes, it was very, very similar to dumb and dumber.
But that's again, that was the style of the time Miami Vice.
If you've ever shopped at a JC penny, that's a real person.
His name was James Cash penny.
He was born this day in 1875.
He passed away in 1971 at the age of 95.
And made a lot of pennies in his day.
Yes, Parker.
His name was not cash penny.
Yes, James cash penny.
No, Johnny cash.
He was Jimmy cash penny.
we see videos
people are hearing a song for the first time in a genre that they normally do not listen to.
And at first you're kind of looking at they're looking at each other like, what is this?
And then then they kind of get into it.
That was pretty much everybody, at least in the American Midwest.
In 1979, as this comes on, and you just like
They're not really singing.
They're like talking really fast.
Yeah.
They're just, but the, but then you start moving your shoulders and it's like, yeah, but the groove is pretty good here.
So it was, it was a revelation at the time.
Oh, without, without a doubt, we were like, huh.
Well, what do we think of this?
Yeah, I suppose.
And it grows on you.
Yes, it does.
All right.
That was 1979.
In 1978, Boston released their second album, Don't Look Back.
The title track would be a big hit, and the album would hit number one.
On this day in 1977, I found this one yesterday.
Didn't realize we had to go this far back for the Talking Heads.
But in 1977, Sire Records released Talking Heads 77, the debut studio album by a new band called the Talking Heads.
It's the one that featured their single, Psycho Killer.
I
Singer Richard Marks is 62 years old today.
Singer Nick Jonas is 33 years old today.
On this day in the year 2000, Madonna went to number one with the song Music.
This was her first number one since 1995.
It was her 12th number one overall.
And near as we can tell her, well, it's her most reasonable.
I don't want to say it's her last number one.
She could do it again.
But her most recent number one was this day 25 years ago.
On this day in 1965, there was a British singer named Davey Jones.
And he
he was not the guy in the monkeys.
And he did not want to be confused for the Davey Jones that was in the monkeys.
So this guy, whose name also was Davey Jones, changed his stage name 60 years ago today, this day in 1965, to David Bowie.
And the rest is history.
Those of you folks who watch Judge Judy, which I never really got into that much, but that show premiered this day in 1996.
I Wow, really?
Yeah.
Well, because before that about the only court show out there was something called the People's Court with Judge Wapner, you know, a kindly older fella.
And it worked just fine, you know, as a court shelf.
And then just this Judge Judy, what's her last name, Shinelyn, said, Hey, why don't we, why don't we spice this up a bit?
Why don't we kick this up a notch and start shouting at the people who come into her courtroom?
and calling them stupid.
And, you know, what's going to happen on American TV?
We're going to eat that up.
Oh,
It's like,
This is World Barber Day.
I have a great barber.
Dan the Barber Man in Eau Claire.
Been seeing him for 30 years.
And it's wonderful to have a good, reliable barber and affordable.
May I taste the ad as well?
You know what a haircut costs these days at other places?
Too much.
Too much, yes.
And this is also IT Professionals Day.
And we really want to thank the IT professionals up there.
Well, the ones who want to be helpful.
Sometimes you call and it was just like, you know.
You get dismissed or treated like you're dumb, but you know, a good IT person, man or woman, is worth their weight in computer chips.
Yes.
When you're when you're growing a radio network, it's there.
There are some technical difficulties now and then.
and you really appreciate a good IT person.
Who can basically keep you on the air?
At some point I was just going to stop talking and make the joke about IT and when things don't work, and then I realized that doesn't really translate well on live radio, does it?
Coming up, we'll be talking to Eau Claire City Council President Emily Berge.
She's also a candidate for Congress and...
has some thoughts on her congressman, Derek Van Orden, now threatening to cut federal funding to the city of Eau Claire because he doesn't like what some city council members have posted online.
That's all ahead.
I'm Pat Crightlow.
This is the Civic Media Radio Network.
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Let's talk entertainment news here for a bit.
And I mentioned watching the second half of the Emmys yesterday and how Seth Rogan show the studio set a record.
for Emmy wins, 13 wins, like 26 nominations.
This thing is apparently a juggernaut.
And I would never have guessed that because I will admit I am not the world's biggest Seth Rogen fan.
I mean, he's fine, but I wouldn't go out of my way to watch something that he does.
So I put up on Facebook just on my personal page to my friends.
I just wanted to know because there's sometimes shows that I don't, I don't get into right away and people say, Oh, you should watch this one.
And then we go down, we try and we try it again.
Okay, it's okay.
And so my my post yesterday on this to my friends was
Can someone make the case for why we should try the studio?
Because is it like Ted Lasso or Schitt's Creek that it starts, it starts off really odd and then it grows on you?
Or did you try the studio and then remembered that it has Seth Rogen in it?
Which is kind of where I think, I don't think I can pass that.
Well, the comments have come in from friends, one says tried it and loved it.
Another says, it took a bit to warm up too, but I'm glad I did it for the last few episodes, which by the way, same goes for the other shows that I mentioned.
They may start a little quirky, but boy, they really find their paces.
The other one that we're doing that with, Shrinking on Apple TV, Harrison Ford, Jason Siegel.
Highly recommend.
But again, the first couple episodes, you're like, I don't think I want to do this one.
But it's worth it.
I
And I think that's where, you know, people say that about hacks at hack as well with Gene Smart.
Anyway, we've got another friend saying Seth Rogan is an amazing human.
So that's why I suggest giving it a try.
Okay.
Another says, I'm not a fan of Seth Rogen's usual humor in movies.
This was different.
It was also a really cool look behind the scenes of the movie industry, which honestly felt a lot like working in politics.
As the episodes went on, I ended up really liking it.
And Brian Cranston is insane and excellent in it too.
And I saw that when Brian Cranston came out at the Emmys to present.
I had no idea he was part of part of this show, the Seth Rogen show, the studio.
So now I have more reason to do it.
Another friend says I thought it was good, though there are better shows like Somebody Somewhere and Severance.
If you're really Jones and for Seth Rogen, I'm not.
Though I'm not sure why one would I prefer platonic he says.
But that's the other thing I looked at some of these shows, like, like adolescence adolescence won several awards at the Emmys.
Yeah.
Adolescence is all about a 13 year old boy who's accused of murdering a classmate and tracking him through like the the court system and all the family drama that results Could could I possibly express enough how much?
That does not sound like entertainment to me in any way shape or form
I'm not much for drama and mystery.
I'm definitely not for horror For me entertainment is make me laugh
You know, it just is.
So, which is not to say, I will watch dramas.
I loved Game of Thrones.
Completely, Head Over Heels loved it, but there's plenty of shows where I go, I would never watch that.
I would never turn that on.
And yet, they win big awards and they've got viewers, so they're out there.
Yeah.
So anyway, there's my contribution to entertainment news.
What, what have you been looking at?
Wait a minute.
Let me, I'm going to play the role of Harvey Levin with his oversized water cup, which of course is my very big courier coffee mug, travel mug here.
This thing is, it's almost a yardstick.
Anyway, so here I've got my pretend a big jug of
Tom Brady adding a gold medal to everything else that he's got in his life.
I mean, he's got the Super Bowl rings.
He's got the adulation.
He doesn't have Giselle, but that's another story.
Look, I'm glad that flag football is catching on.
I'm glad the NFL has embraced it as an alternative to full contact football.
So I'm all good with flag football.
I'm not good with Saudi Arabia.
I am not good with Tom Brady potentially getting a gold medal.
It's, it's just, it's not sitting well with me right now.
Doesn't feel good.
No, my day was going fine, but now I thought, you know, my life is good.
And then Tom Brady is going to win a gold medal along with wearing all the Super Bowl rings.
Where's the justice in the world?
Oh, speaking of justice in the world from Tony on YouTube, what happened to the bear?
It won a ton of Emmys last year and nothing this year.
You know why.
You know why it did.
Because even though it probably is a good show, it probably is a good drama.
They insisted on inserting themselves into the comedy category.
They won all these awards anyway, because it was apparently a very well done show.
But I think everybody was like, Okay, okay, okay, we've recognized you're a good show.
You are not a comedy.
And yet they entered in the comedy category again, this time.
And you could feel the entire industry go, No, no, no, I mean, we get that comedies are sometimes a little bit darker these days, sometimes can be a little bit more serious.
Yeah, but that's not a comedy show.
It's just not.
So I for one,
I'm happy.
I would like to see that happen with Tom Brady, where you say you're, Hey, I'm now a flag football star.
No, you're not.
And the bear is not a comedy.
All right, coming up, we're going to talk to Emily Berge, the city council president and a candidate for Congress.
And then in our eight o'clock hour, Cam Stevenson from Courier Newsroom and Dan Schaefer from the Reconpopulation Area.
I'm Pat Kripel.
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