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Pushing Back Against a Big Oil & Coal President (Hour 2)
Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Mon Sep 15, 2025
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Well, hey there, Wisconsin.
Good morning.
It is 606 on a Monday morning, September 15th, 2025.
It's another beautiful morning to have you here up north, live from Lake Wissota, from wherever you're spending your mornings, listening across the Civic Media radio network.
And whether it's on the radio or by a podcast or with a website, social media, we appreciate you getting your week started right here.
I got a question for you.
Should I question whether I even own a TV or if it is some other kind of weird device?
I mean to watch the Emmys last night and all the shows I have never heard of win awards Maybe my TV is some kind of relic Or maybe I'm the relic.
I'm not sure we'll talk about that Including however one particular moment during the Emmys was it was emblematic of how TV is different now
compared to when TV used to bring us all together.
And we got that moment in a single song that we'll talk about later this hour.
Also coming up the candidate list for 2026 for the election.
It's growing longer.
Just this morning, about an hour ago, we got the email with confirmation from State Senator Kelder Royce.
She is now a candidate for governor.
She made the announcement early this morning saying, quote, with everything on the line, Wisconsin needs a governor who's been training for this moment her whole career and knows how to deliver.
We can't afford to wait no matter who you are or where you're from.
You deserve the freedom to thrive.
right now.
Again, that's Kelda Roy's announcing this morning that she's running for governor.
Let's see, of course, this all started with Governor Tony Evers deciding not to run for a third term.
So, Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodriguez is also a candidate for governor.
Now, that leaves the lieutenant governor spot open in 2026.
Current Wisconsin Secretary of State Sarah Godluschi is now running for the LG Post
opening up the Secretary of State role, and that leads us into today's show where we will talk live with Milwaukee City Councilmember Jocasta Zamiripa, a former legislator who is now running for Wisconsin Secretary of State.
And of course, we may have other candidate announcements even right here on the show in the coming days.
So stay tuned for all of that.
But again, Kelderoy is in the race for governor, along with Lieutenant Governor Sir Rodriguez and Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley, all on the Democratic side, Washington County Executive Josh Schoeman, along with businessman Bill Barion on the Republican side for a primary election that will take place 11 months from now.
Also this morning, we're going to be talking about how
far right provocateur Charlie Kirk symbolized the fight over free speech as universities faced pressure to cancel his appearances, but they also faced pressure not to give in to so-called cancel culture.
And that makes it really ironic that the most tangible activity in the country in the days after Charlie Kirk's murder has been a wave of firings of people.
for expressing their own points of view and threats of firings from people like a member of Congress from Western Wisconsin who we did talk about a bit on Friday to answer the question from Tony on YouTube.
I wonder who we're going to talk about today.
He says I have one one guess.
Yeah, the guess is Derek Van Orden because when we mentioned him late last week,
He had posted dozens of times with emotional reactions to Charlie Kirk's murder and the reactions to that killing.
Dozens of times.
It is now in the hundreds.
He has posted hundreds.
He has been on a stream of posting all weekend long on what used to be known Twitter, mostly threatening to cut off federal funding for people or groups or now entire cities.
entire cities.
The entire city of Ellsworth, he says, is in my district, but I'm going to cut funding to them because I didn't like how one city employee reacted to Charlie Kirk's death.
The entire Mayo Clinic system, he's threatening to cut off federal funding for the entire mail.
He can't do that.
He doesn't have the time to do that.
He's wasting our time and resources, but he's also giving off a vibe that should genuinely concern his family and loved ones.
So we'll get into all of that.
Also, the current president and his party may be shamelessly trying to drag America back to the days of coal and oil generating most of our power and pollution, but plenty of other people are pushing back against that.
And we're going to talk to Robert Craig from Citizen Action Wisconsin about the ways they're making sure lawmakers are aware of the direction being demanded by most Americans.
And it does not involve being dragged back to the past.
and ignoring the problems of a changing climate.
So that and oh my goodness, so much more.
We've got Jimmy Koska talking about sports.
I think Jane Matten there's back from vacation.
Brittany Merlot is still on hers and so she'll be back tomorrow.
John and Gordy from our Madison station.
And if you can't stick around for all of this and you know, you probably have jobs and things like that.
But we always want to make sure that you have this program as an option any old time.
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Okay, I mentioned Brittany Merleau coming back tomorrow.
Where am I next on the list?
Oh, I got, I got food and I got weekend stuff.
I'm going to need somebody to help me out with this.
Parker Olson is standing by.
There he is now in Madison Studio A2 as I learned which buttons to push to bring him up.
Mr. Olson, how are you?
I am good.
You have piqued my interest because you said that you had food to talk about and weekends to
talk about.
Those are two things I'm
a fan
of.
The Crite Low Kitchen was a busy one yesterday.
Well, once again from neighbors who shared, you know, what, what they pulled off their apple tree.
And so once again from Sherry, another delicious batch of apple crisp and some apple sauce as well.
So very good.
And then
This one sounds a little odd, but we we went for comfort food as well.
Yeah.
In part because I said on the radio, I think a week before last, was it like National Shepherd's Pie Day or something?
That sounds
like I said, I'm gonna make that and people say, Have you made it yet?
No, it's summer.
It's hot.
But I got the ingredients.
Yeah.
Look, let's do that.
So I got out the big cast iron pan and I put together another shepherd's pie after Sherry made the apple crisp.
So it was a little hot in the kitchen yesterday on a hot day.
But you know what to have comfort food like that like shepherd's pie and like apple crisp.
I mean, I got the leftovers now for the next couple of days on the shepherd's pie.
You know what I had for breakfast this morning?
Apple crisp.
No, I'm not a savage.
No,
obviously,
I got that going for me right.
It was and it was good.
It was there was the fall festival in Eau Claire downtown Eau Claire.
And that that goes on for many blocks of booths and exhibits and entertainment.
And it was a perfect Saturday morning to do that.
We did the last pontoon ride of the season, we think, because of the dates that we've set up to have the boat taken out and put the dock up, you know, before winter and all that.
We've got other plans and things.
So, you know, and the weather was perfect when we did this on Saturday.
So we're like, yeah, let's, let's call this one good.
Let's make sure we end on a high note.
So one last boat ride.
And then from my point of view, getting in the hammock one more time for an extended period, I'm getting better at that.
I have to admit, I haven't mentioned this for a while now, but a couple years back, I would talk about being in the hammock and I could barely stay in there 60 seconds.
Because as soon as I would start to relax, my mind would start to go to all the things I could be doing right now.
I should be cleaning the garage or I should be doing this and I'd feel guilty and I'd eventually get out of the hammock and I'd start working again and get tired again.
And I'm definitely better now of like, look, if I'm getting in that hammock, my butt is staying right here for a while.
So.
It's a good place to be.
Yeah.
Uh, let's see, from Tony here, I was watching the kids this weekend, trying to figure out what to make for dinner, then saw your post about shepherd's pie and said, that's what I should make.
The kids loved it.
Thanks for the idea.
Well, all right, Tony.
Look at you, Pat, making a
positive influence on the world.
I know.
Well, I and I also I may have posted I'm not one of those people that posts a lot of food pictures.
I was especially proud of this post.
And so Alicia puts up on YouTube.
I saw it.
It looked so good.
Well, there you go.
Oh, yeah.
So little shepherd's pie.
And I know I know I don't want to get I don't want to get the note like it's not shepherd's pie.
You know, shepherd's pie is made with veal or whatever.
And apparently, if it's made with ground beef, it's called something else.
No, that may, maybe, maybe back in the mother country, you know, you, you, you know, and the Brits want to talk that way.
That's fine.
But we don't need veal, we don't need mincemeat.
This America, we got ground beef here.
We got lots of ground beef.
And that's how we make our shepherd's pie.
So there you go.
Luke Mathers on the text line.
Pat Crichtlow food influencer.
Well, I mean, I influenced Tony.
I don't know that that makes me an influencer yet, but I'll take it.
And you might have made Alicia hungry
too,
so.
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
So two people being
influenced.
Tony, it's called better, I believe.
Yes, when we make it, we make it better.
And of course, there was plenty of sports to watch.
And granted, the Brewers couldn't come back yesterday.
They did fall short to the Cardinals three to two, so they couldn't quite pull off the sweep.
But great victories on Friday, and then again on Saturday.
And that's Saturday night one.
I tell you, that was an amazing comeback.
I feel bad for anybody who gave up on the Brewer Saturday when they were down in like the sixth inning and said, nope, it's time to go to bed.
Anybody like that is me because that's what I did.
And woke up early Sunday morning and looked at my phone.
I was like, what?
called up the highlights where the brewers tied it in the bottom of the ninth, then they fell behind in the top of the tenth, then they tied it in the tenth, and then they won it in the tenth.
And it was, if you don't, if you go back and look at the game highlights, don't worry about yesterday's game.
Go to Saturday's Brewer's Cardinals game.
That was a fun looking comeback.
As for yesterday, again, losing three to two, the Brewers could only muster a pair of solo home runs by Caleb Durbin and Danny Janssen.
The Cubs won as well, so the Brewers magic number to clinch the central division stands at eight.
But let's not bury the lead here.
That's the magic number to clinch the division.
Over the weekend, the Brewers did, in fact, clinch a playoff berth, meaning conceivably they could lose every game for the rest of the season.
They would still make the playoffs.
That's not going to happen.
But they're in.
There's going to be October baseball.
Very,
very excited.
That's
seven out of
eight years now.
Yes.
And it wasn't the one year we didn't make it.
Wasn't it just by like a game?
We missed it.
I don't think it was a particularly bad year, but I don't think
so either.
I could be wrong.
Anyway, the Brewer's Homestand continues.
The Cardinals have left town, but today is an off day as the, what are we calling them now?
The Los Angeles Angels?
Yeah, as the, as the Angels of Anaheim in Los Angeles County, come to town Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday
night.
If you translate it to English, it's the Angels Angels.
That's right.
I think we should go with that
for the rest of
the week.
I would be fine with that.
So again, off today, but brewers and angels coverage begins tomorrow at 605 on several civic media radio stations.
That again, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, night games, all of them.
And then they travel to St.
Louis to play the Cardinals again.
next weekend.
Of course the Packers won back on Thursday against the Washington Commanders and so now they are off until next Sunday.
They will play Cleveland at noon next Sunday.
And the Badgers were simply no match for the Crimson Tide, Alabama overpowered Wisconsin, 38 to 14.
Up next for the Badgers, they opened the Big Ten part of their schedule, and that will be this coming Saturday, hosting Maryland, and that will include a 9 a.m.
kickoff on several civic media stations.
We'll get you updated on all that throughout the course of the week.
Coming up, Derek Van Orden has crossed a line, several actually, politically, professionally, and perhaps the state of mind or his health.
We'll get into that right after this.
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I'm Pat Krightlow.
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Today's edition from Ellie includes how to apply for FEMA flood relief and also a timely reminder from her that tomorrow is National Voter Registration Day.
reminder to check your voter registration status and maybe make updates if you've moved and encourage other family and friends to register.
Don't wait till everything gets busy next week.
And in our Sunday edition from yesterday, I unfortunately, I think I broke our readers.
And I didn't mean to, but I
I passed along that Ron Johnson last week on the 9-11 anniversary was again sharing a conspiracy theory about the World Trade Center and that maybe there were explosives in the basement of Building 7 or just something ridiculous.
My question to the readers yesterday was, if you could get Ron Johnson to stop talking forever about one conspiracy, which would it be?
Would it be the World Trade Center one?
Would it be the COVID one?
Would it be
2016 was was actually a job by Ukraine and not Russia.
Was it that 2020 was irregular?
And I did not leave an option for all of the above.
And that's what everybody demanded from all of there were so many emails.
How could you not give us an all of the above?
Well, because I want to know which which if you could get rid of one of them.
But what's the most disturbing conspiracy theory?
Yes, what's the most disturbing of these?
And so people gave it their best guess.
If you'd like to be first to see our question of the week, sign up for our newsletters up North News W I dot com.
All right.
There seems to be a free speech issue, causing a serious case of irony when it comes to discussing Charlie Kirk, both the murder and the legacy of his own speech during his life.
There appears to be basically a growing trend that could be summed up as free speech for Charlie Kirk, but not free speech about Charlie Kirk.
The far right provocateur symbolized the fights over political free speech, especially on our college campuses because
Kirk would be booked for certain engagements on universities and then they would face pressure to cancel his appearances knowing the hateful things he was about to say, but then they would also face pressure from others not to give in to so-called cancel culture.
That's what makes it so ironic that the most tangible activity in this country in the days following Charlie Kirk's murder has been the wave of firings of people for expressing
their own points of view and threats of firings coming from people, including members of Congress, who would normally be the first to defend Charlie Kirk's right to speak out.
There are members of Congress like Derek Van Ord, and yes, we have to talk about him again.
It was one thing for him to be emotional about Charlie Kirk's murder and tweet more than 80 times in the first 24 hours after his death.
Then on Friday, he tweeted another 161 times and he is now well into the hundreds of tweets, many of them with insults and profanity, but that's simply the nature of the man.
He lacks the emotional maturity to be an effective public official.
The more troubling tweets are the ones that call for people to be fired or for federal funding to be cut simply because he doesn't like how they reacted to Charlie Kirk's murder and or his legacy.
On the federal funding alone, this needs to be said.
If Van Orden actually tried to follow through on the many, many tweets, he would have a full-time job just doing that, having to look up each person, each institution, each item in the budget of the United States government and try to get that number changed to zero.
He's now threatening to do it with the city of Ellsworth in his district because he didn't like what an employee had to say.
He's threatened to do it for the entire Mayo Clinic because he didn't like what somebody posted on there.
He can't do all that.
He doesn't have time to do all that.
And even if he did, he'd be wasting his time, which means he's wasting our money that we pay him to do a job other than scrolling and trolling on Twitter.
I mean, if nothing else, maybe the Congressman could travel his district a little bit more and notice all the soybean fields.
The crop's looking good out there.
But as we learned last week, China purchased more than $12 billion in soybeans from the US last year, but thanks to Trump's made up trade war, they have so far purchased no US soybeans.
So maybe Van Orden and Trump think it'll be enough to simply send support checks to farmers, but you won't be able to escape the image of soybeans piled up and rotting.
So maybe he could work on that for his district instead of tweeting.
But let's get back to what he is doing on Twitter.
There's the firings as we've seen in around the country.
We've seen it on TV.
We've seen it nationally.
There's no shortage of examples, including here in Wisconsin.
It's just rich that these demands for firings from Van Orden and other Republicans come from people who love to claim that they've been persecuted for the things that they want to say.
I mean, if anyone should be a champion for these newly jobless folks, it should be the Derrick Van Orden's out there.
But like I said, free speech for Charlie Kirk apparently was on a higher plane than free speech about Charlie Kirk.
Now, don't get me wrong, we all have freedom of speech, but
We are also subject to the consequences of what we say.
This show, for example, could be canceled with one phone call.
If someone heard me say something that they thought brought shame or damage to the business, that's how it goes.
But this isn't about the consequences coming from employers who bow to pressure from customers or advertisers or politicians.
It's about the politicians demanding those consequences.
The First Amendment doesn't protect you or me from employers who are angry or afraid, but it is supposed to protect us from the government infringing on our freedom to express ourselves.
And Derek Van Orden right now is part of the government.
And he and Donald Trump and so many of Charlie Kirk supporters would love to infringe on the free speech of anyone whose speech they don't like.
That's not how the First Amendment is supposed to work.
but I guess I shouldn't be surprised that if they're not being true to the First Amendment, it's in line with how they have muddled up the Second Amendment and things like that, but that's a question for another day.
In conclusion, this should be a time of unity, all of us together acknowledging that political violence has no place in a civil society.
But that's not where we are right now, with a congressman whose obsession with tweeting threats and insults right now should be truly concerning.
to the people who care about him.
Today's history lesson is coming up next.
You're up north.
Welcome to today's history lesson where on this day in 1949 the Lone Ranger appeared and premiered on ABC.
They do love their gunfire in shows like this.
I
had a little cap gun.
Did you have a cap gun when you were little?
Of course, yep.
Yeah, and we used to like go on the couch on the edges of the couch.
My sister and I would hold on to the arms and we would gallop.
like by bouncing up and down on the couch while we were watching The Lone Rangers.
That's a fond memory for me.
Okay, well, there you go.
Lone Ranger premiered this day in 1949.
Let's go way up to 1986.
We're doing like the season premiere series premiere thing, of course, because it's that time of year.
In 1986, this show premiered on NBC.
Can you guess the show by the theme song?
Hit it.
Kristen does not have it.
I don't have it.
You're not supposed to have it.
It's like Law and Order or
LA Law.
LA Law.
It was the first of the Law Shows.
Yes, and it was created by Stephen Bochko.
The ensemble cast included Corbin Bernsons, Jolycan Berry, Susan Day, Harry Hamlin, and of course that sax in the beginning, which was on anything made of the 80s.
Everything in the 80s had that sax
in some
way, shape, or form.
That's why I played the sax.
Oh, did you?
For like one year.
I wasn't good.
All
right.
Well, there it is again.
Yep.
Mike Post.
Mike Post, who did like 500 different TV themes, did that one for LA Law.
Let's see the number one song this week in 1962 was by Frankie Valley in the Four Seasons.
Is this a special song in your house?
It is not.
Hard no somebody somebody does not like that song.
I love this song
Apparently it was sung to her a lot as a kid.
So It's kind of it's it's worn out its usefulness same goes by the way with Steve Perry's Oshari from the from the 80s Also, she's just not one of those doesn't want songs about her.
Do you have a song about you Pat?
Uh, do I have a song about me?
I don't know.
Muskrat Love, maybe?
Juggernaut.
One.
Oh, the Juggernaut song.
Yeah.
I'm still trying to figure out if that was... Oh!
You actually have a real song that's actually about you
and
yourself.
No,
no,
no, no, no, no, no.
The song's title is quite low, but
it's
a very disturbing
song
about something or another, and I have no idea how they came to call it that.
And one
of these days, I'm going to work up the courage to reach out to the band and say, what the heck was that about?
Or since they're an Eau Claire bass band, we send Selena Heller who joins us now from Up North News.
Ms.
Heller, how are you?
Good.
Good morning.
There's a song that's Selena and there's a local band from the nominee.
Really?
Yeah.
I took Emery and I'm like, and I got a hold of the people like, can you sing the song?
So Emery hears and she's like, what?
Whatever,
nice.
Alright, let's get back to our history lesson.
Helen Reddy had the number one song this week in 1973.
Whose
version of this song was bigger, hers or Tanya Tucker?
Good question.
Definitely Helen Reddy on the Hot 100, Tanya Tucker on the Country Charts.
had really good short performance with it.
Prince Harry has a birthday today.
Little Prince Harry is not Little Prince Harry anymore.
He's 41 years old today.
Actor Tommy Lee Jones is 79 years old today.
So many, he is so good.
There's been so many good movies with Tommy Lee Jones and yet you cannot mark his birthday without playing one clip in particular from the fugitive.
of you is a hard-target search of every gas station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse, henhouse, outhouse, or doghouse in that area.
Checkpoints go up to 15 miles.
Your fugitive's name is Dr. Richard
Kimball.
He's just so good.
I really
like him.
79 years old today, former roommate of Al Gore.
back in college.
Oliver Stone is also 79 years old today, former NFL quarterback Dan Marino from the Miami Dolphins, 64 today.
On this day in 1983, one of those early 80s albums that I wore out was released on what is the September 15th, 1983.
That would be Huey Lewis in the News and the album was Sports.
There were
five hits off that album.
I want a new drug walking on a thin line heart and soul If this is it and of course the heart of rock and roll the album would sell more than seven million copies on this day in 1982 the first issue of USA Today was put out by Gannett and everybody thought that was gonna save newspapers because it was all colorful You know and had just the four same sections every day and it was it was a big deal for the longest time When was the last time you bought a newspaper?
Period, you know, I've never bought a paper in my life.
There's the line.
Yeah.
If you're ever looking for the generational lines, like if you're digging through sediment and you get to a line and go, wow, there must have been like a doomsday event here.
That's marker was born and then nobody bought newspapers anymore
after that.
It's my fault, guys.
This week in 1990, the number one hit was by the group Wilson Phillips.
Oh dear.
My apology.
Yes, this has released me.
I meant to get you somewhere up in the chorus rather than the intro, but they do have some good harmony here in the beginning.
Wilson Phillips was made up of sisters, Kearney and Wendy Wilson, the daughters of Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys and China Phillips, the daughter of John and Michelle Phillips of the Mamas and the Papas.
And this song released me was their second single.
and their second number one hit.
Their first single, Hold On, also went to number one a couple of months earlier.
I always wondered, like, did they play together when they were little kids?
Is that how they knew each other?
Yep, they are childhood friends.
Exactly how it worked.
All right, so let me...
Ask you now, Kristen, you did not watch the Emmys last night at all?
I did not.
Okay.
I knew I should have sent you a homework assignment.
Selena, do you catch
the Emmys at all?
I am not an Emmy watcher.
I'm not surprised for this reason.
there's 9,000 networks out there.
I mean, they made a joke yesterday in one of the categories about how, you know, just these five women are up for these awards when, I mean, how many actresses would be eligible for it?
And, you know, you'd think it's maybe, whatever it is, they joke that it was 25,000.
And it feels like that.
It feels like there's 25,000 potential shows or actors or actresses.
But there was a moment that unified them all that I want to talk to you about in just a minute.
But first off,
The show was hosted by Nate Bargatze.
And where are we on Nate?
Everybody likes Nate.
Doesn't like Nate.
Don't know.
Don't care.
I think he's funny.
I vaguely
remember the name.
Oh, OK.
All right.
Got
nothing here.
Oh, there's a Saturday Night Live bucket about measurement that you really need to see.
Yes.
And that's how he opened the show.
He opened the show as the inventor of TV, Philo T. Farnsworth, and all the other guys in the lab who also worked from Saturday Night Live last night.
we're asking him questions about it like you know we will have channels like oh what's one that does it now cable news network that does news what about one called the learning channel nope that will just be shows about something else what about the history channel oh that will be shows about aliens
you know music
television is no longer about music or anything like that he pulled it off far better than I'm describing but he also had this stick to try to keep people
to 45 seconds or less in their acceptance speeches?
Starting off by saying he was going to donate $100,000 to the Boys and Girls Club of America, but he was going to take $1,000 off for each second
that
anybody went over 45 seconds.
Wow, that could be a horrible person if you want to say
it.
Yes, some people's speeches were like, come on, sit down already.
You're doing it for, think of the kids.
And then other people, like one time when John Oliver got up, he gave the fastest, like, I'm going to thank this person, this person, this person.
All right, pay up, Nate.
And then you rush off stage.
And then you'd have to put $1,000 back on for every second.
But in the end, the windbags won.
And so the money was essentially wiped out, which, and then Nate Bargazzi said, no, no,
we're going to keep
the money and add to it.
And actually $350,000 was donated total.
So that was nice.
But I did.
I really was wondering if I owned a TV based on the show.
I've never seen the White Lotus.
I've never seen Severance.
I've never seen Seth Rogen's The Studio.
And the studio was like the big winner yesterday.
It set some kind of a record for Emmy wins.
13 total Emmys.
Has anybody here
seen Seth Rogen's The Studio on Apple TV?
No, but I'll tell you because I've been laid up for a couple weeks.
And so I've been doing some channel flipping, which is unusual for me.
And it's overwhelming the number of shows that are out there and the way that they're trying to convince you to watch all the different shows.
I just didn't ever know what to pick.
So I ended up not watching anything.
See, that's what you're
opening
up
all the time.
Yes.
Well, here's one I think you would be watching.
Noah Wiley has a narrative that just can't be denied.
He got five nominations.
for ER a quarter century ago and never won.
30 years later, he puts on scrubs and he last night won his first Emmy for playing another emergency doctor on the show, The Pit.
That's nice.
Yeah.
So
I'm an ER person.
I did watch that back then, but I have not watched The Pit.
But although my doctor friends who tend to be pretty critical about doctor shows, tell me it's actually quite good.
Oh.
Well, and as evidenced by the awards that it's been
nine out of
10 doctors approved for that show.
I cannot verify those statistics.
Yes, that seems about right.
So let me say this about the way that TV's all fragmented and everybody's off watching their their own thing.
There was a moment when they paid tribute to another show that had premiered 40 years ago this week.
So if I were to say the first line from the theme song,
Would you be able to fill in the next line from Golden Girls?
If I said, thank you for being a friend, you'd sing what?
Travel down the
road and back again.
Yeah, why?
And you know what?
The whole audience was singing it.
The whole audience was like moving to the song and like, you know, digging on the Golden Girls, they put up clips and Sherry put it perfectly.
She's like.
That's when TV was what we thought it would be.
Is it brought us all together?
Everybody watch Golden Girls because there were only three or four channels on your TV, not 7000.
And maybe we need more of that of shows that we all want to watch that aren't just called the Super Bowl.
I
remember, I remember Dallas when JR got shot and the whole country was wondering who shot
JR
and they kept us in suspense for an entire
summer.
I mean, I was a little kid at the time, but that was like a huge cultural thing.
We don't have that anymore.
My friend and I were just having a conversation and he was like, you know, there's nothing good prime time show that you want to watch every week on a network.
Like there used to be there used to be friends and all of that.
And you know, there's just not that anymore.
No.
And frankly, I think part of the part of the reason we watch reruns of the Big Bang Theory so much is it might have been like the last show that got that many millions of viewers at once on network TV.
And now, correct me if I'm wrong, but Abbott Elementary on ABC.
Was that the only broadcast network show that was even up for Emmys?
I think so.
Shout out to one of my neighbors up in Dorkani who actually developed that show.
So there's a Wisconsin connection there and she has an Emmy for Avid Elementary.
Oh, well, that's great.
Write that down, Kristen.
Yeah, that's going to be a good story for you in the future.
Yeah, and we're going to hear more from Selena on stories that she's working on, including an unusual demonstration that was held last week against budget cuts and health care cuts, complete with a movie theme and costumes.
Selena's
going to
tell us all about that coming up after the news.
And we'll talk to Robert Craig from Citizen Action.
pushing back against Donald Trump and others trying to drag us back to the days when your cell phone was powered by shoveling coal into it and other things that big oil would love to have us be doing going ahead and continuing to just tear up the climate.
A lot of people would like to say no thank you to all that.
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It is 66 degrees here in the Chippewa Valley.
La Crosse coming in at 68.
Amory at 69 over in Oshkosh.
It is 60 degrees right now.
And in the Green Bay area at the Kovarna coffee shop, it is 54 degrees.
And they are trying to figure out why Kristen isn't there.
Getting her mocha, latte, macchiato thingy.
What is your go-to drink there?
I am a black coffee kind of gal.
Of
course you
are.
But they have
great, it's like a sip of black coffee and one of their amazing treats.
Oh, they're fantastic.
Should every coffee shop like basically be a bakery because some have really nice treats and others, you can tell it was totally an afterthought.
We're a coffee shop.
You know, here's a brick cleverly disguised as a blueberry muffin, you know, I'm just
going to speak on behalf of my partner, Craig, who I do believe is listening and he is a police officer.
And the answer is yes.
And there must be donuts.
Craig, you are welcome.
What?
Oh boy.
Why are you being the stereotype that way?
I don't understand.
This is true.
For Craig, it's true.
Well, in that case, then never mind.
I retract all that.
Kristen, what was on the Dr. Kristen Leighly show last week and what do you got next?
Oh, it was so good.
I just sat down with my friend representative, Ahmaud Rivera-Wagner, who is a delightful person who loves Green Bay.
And we talked about all things Green Bay and Wisconsin and his vision for the future of the state and the area.
And then this week is going to be really spicy.
We're taping it tonight.
We're talking about the Charlie Kirk assassination and we're talking with
former Republican leaders and getting just a broad overview of what happened, where we are now, and what do we need to do as we move forward?
It's gonna be very engaging and interesting.
I had a couple of different conversations, run-ins with people that I knew, like one was at the International or at the Fall Festival in downtown Eau Claire.
Another was up in Chippewa over the weekend.
Again, just having conversation with folks who I know we don't
always agree politically on things and those conversations I think were very emblematic of what you were hearing around the country of saying, you know, we really should be able to all come together on political violence is wrong and that your reaction to the political violence should also be in the vein of taking the temperature down rather than
talking all about retribution, which of course, when I first started, you know, counting Derek Van Orden's tweets, it was a little concerning when I got to 60 and then I got to 80.
And then the next day when I got to 161, and then I hadn't looked back until last night or early this morning.
I mean, there are just literally hundreds of these things ramping up.
the violent rhetoric and the threats to fire people and the cut off the federal funding.
And it is so nowhere near what I think most people who would consider themselves, you know, that they knew Charlie Kirk and, you know, might call them fans, or at least they'd say, well, I agreed with him on several things.
I don't think they'd necessarily be with the the Derek Van Orden's right now and saying, oh, yeah, let's let's get out there and threaten revolution.
Besides the volume of those tweets, the content of the tweets are really interesting because they're all quote tweets.
So it's clearly he's spending all day long scrolling and then just reposting these tweets with his little comments.
He has a real job, right?
Allegedly.
Yes.
I mean, and like I said, in the newsletter and earlier this morning, if he chose just to actually follow through on these these cuts to federal funding, that would be more than a full time job in and of itself.
So he's saying, you know, we're going to cut their funding, we're going to cut their funding, we're going to cut their funding.
No, you don't nobody has enough time to do all that.
You know, plus you got things to do, like, you know, find a market for that soybean crop that's going to start rotting, you know,
Things are about to get very real.
I think for the Republicans who voted for the big, beautiful bill as people start to realize what the no tax on tips and no tax on like all
of the little either one of them are anything like they're being advertised.
Correct.
They're not.
And when people start to see prices rising, you know, there are a lot of consumers out there who are looking at the stock market and saying, but the stock market is still rising.
Yeah.
But most of us are actually really struggling to pay our bills.
So that's going to head home sooner than later.
And that's going to feel very real to people like Derek Van Orden, who are
going to be
held accountable.
A lot of the stock price is going up because these corporations are understanding that even with the tariffs and inflation, I mean, grocery prices are more insane than last year.
They realize, well, people are still going to pay for the stuff that they need.
So they may be struggling, but we, the corporation, we're going to be OK.
Oh, and there goes Pat's mic.
And wealthy people are still spending.
And that is what is really buoying the economy right now.
But people who don't have a lot of extra are starting to pinch pennies.
So the longer this goes on, I think the more our purse strings are going to be tightened and the more our representatives are going to feel it.
Did you, Selena, get to the fall festival this year in downtown Eau Claire?
I did.
That was an event that I used to organize.
So it was our first one.
And Sherry suggested going there.
I said, well, we've never suggested going there before.
Yeah, but Sherita made it sound fun.
Because Sherita Booker talked about it last week.
And I kind of just gave her a look like
Sharita's never been there.
She was just reading through the things.
Yeah, but she made it sound fun.
Sharita makes everything sound fun.
She's like, that's my favorite segment of the week, which is interesting because she's married to like the host.
But yes.
So Sharita made it look good.
And it was good.
It basically was a great way of taking an entire town, in this case, the city of Eau Claire, and saying, okay, I know you're all over the place with your stores and your shops and everything.
But you're all going to come down to downtown, you're all going to get one
and the entire population is gonna walk past you.
And it was great.
It was very well organized, we had a lot of fun.
Yeah, and that was my job before is getting everybody downtown either to live, work, or have some fun and frequent those businesses downtown because they're vital to the community.
See, look at that.
Now you're here with us, some charitas here with us, making all these things sound fun.
We went to the drag
show.
One of the biggest attended events at the fall festival for the last couple of years now is the drag show.
It wasn't the firehouse where they were serving the beer.
I would have sworn that was with the Badger game on TV.
All right.
Well, more after the seven o'clock news, I'm Pat Crightlow.
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Hey, good morning.
It is 706.
Nice to have you back here up north on this Monday morning, September 15th, 2025.
A joint is always on Mondays by Dr. Kristen Lierly and by Uptown News reporter Selena Heller.
Selena will tell us in just a couple of minutes about.
and unusual, more colorful, not your typical protest that took place in the Chippewa Valley last week.
That's on the way.
Brittany should be back tomorrow to give us all the weather news, but you of course can catch the forecast throughout the day on your local civic media station.
But in the meantime, Rob doesn't take a day off out in Tigerton where he says good morning.
It's fair and 54 degrees.
It was really a very beautiful weekend.
Saturday had a mowing job and went to the Tigerton Lions Club steak fry.
It was excellent with great steak Sunday, watched some football, then took around the countryside seeing the changing colors of the leaves and took some pictures from my social media and for my friends.
We are definitely getting to that time of year.
with the leaves are like right there just about to pop depending on what part of the state you're in.
I posted one of Rob's pictures.
They are absolutely beautiful.
And Rob also sent me an article about some disability benefits that are in danger right now because of the Trump administration.
So I'll be making a little TikTok video about that later today.
Thank
you.
You have been a TikTok machine recently.
Well, there's a
lot of information that people need to know and it's great to be able to put it into a bite size.
you know, clump and let people have a conversation about it.
I wouldn't call your videos a clump.
Yeah, very nice.
Rob also notes last night I saw the Northern Lights.
I was going to say that.
Yeah, Northern Lights were out last night.
A lot
of
Wisconsin it seems.
Yeah, I saw one picture I'm sure by now social media is full of them but very early this morning somebody put one up and I was like, wow, is that what they looked like last night?
So that's great.
Some people got
Got a very nice view.
I'll be looking at that.
In the history section I neglected to mention today is National Google Day because that's when they claimed the domain this day in 1997.
It is World Engineers Day and it's Double Cheeseburger Day and it is the start of Hispanic Heritage Month.
People go, well, wait, it's the middle of the month.
Well, yeah, Hispanic Heritage Month runs from September 15th to October 15th, because several countries today mark September 15th as their Independence Day, including Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, all declaring independence from Spain on this particular day.
So yes, again, happy Hispanic Heritage Month, folks.
And, yeah, double cheeseburger, I don't know, might be a bit much for me.
I'm more of a sliders guy, you know.
Oh, I do love a good double cheeseburger.
Maxi Burger from Dick's Drive-In in Cacana any day.
We did, after we did the Fall Festival, we headed up to Amber Inn, up at the top of the hill there in Eau Claire, above the Yield Uniro factory.
It's just some of the best burgers.
ever, you know, on a griddle that I'm convinced dates back to the Warren Harding administration.
And
shall we say
maybe it hasn't.
Yeah, right.
It's properly seasoned.
Shall we say
that's
what
gets its special flavor.
That's right.
So while we're talking about things, actually, before Selena, we get to the Eau Claire story.
I do want to mention the other news from this morning.
State Senator Kelda Roy's announcing that she is jumping into the governor's race, making her candidacy official today.
So I'm sure we'll be talking to her a lot in the coming 11 months between now and the primary election.
And Kristen, you saw Kelda recently.
Yeah, I got to spend some time with Kelda.
Actually, she gave me and the president of ACOG, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, and the chair of the OBGYN department down at UW Madison and a bunch of students and residents, a little tour of the Capitol during our big meeting over the weekend.
You know, Senator Rice has been a huge champion for women's health and abortion rights for a very long time.
So I'm really excited to see what she brings to the table as a candidate for governor.
Yes, she gets in a race that also includes Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley and Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodriguez with Sarah Rodriguez running for governor that opens up that spot.
And so you've got Sarah Godluschi, the current Secretary of State now running for Lieutenant Governor.
which means there's an opening for Secretary of State.
And in that post, you have Milwaukee Common Council member and former legislator, Jocasta Zamiripa, running for Wisconsin Secretary of State.
And Jocasta Zamiripa will be our guest here live just over an hour from now.
So a lot to cover just today alone on the things that are going on.
Selena, you were covering a recent protest in Eau Claire about budget cuts.
And it wasn't your typical, you know, just carry some signs and, you know, chance some some things, which is fine.
I mean, everybody should be able to protest something they feel strongly about.
But if you can add a little splash of color or character, especially the characters, well, that's what you find in Eau Claire last week, right?
Yep, Wizard of Oz themed it was because they called it, Toto, we're not in America anymore.
It definitely feels that way to some folks.
And so people got into the theme, didn't they?
Well, yes, they were wearing lion costumes, dorthies and witches and even houses.
Like, I mean, they had to spend a lot of time on these.
Oh, these were very creative.
My favorite was that my fear was somebody put their little dog in a basket, you know, like Toto and the sign around the basket said, nobody's coming to eat me.
They're eating the dogs.
Yes, I did see one person dressed as a house.
They basically built a house costume around themselves.
Is that who you talked to?
That is who I talked to.
Amy Holden, she's from Chippewa Falls and she
talked about kind of why she was there.
And they have these rallies, Triple Valley Indivisible hosts these rallies every week.
So they marked the sixth anniversary, sixth month anniversary of having these rallies.
And that's why they kind of did something a little bit different and more colorful.
So this is Amy Holzen, Holzen of Triple Falls talking about why she was there.
I'm here because I strongly believe in preserving our democracy.
And I'm just astounded at what has happened to our country in the last six months.
So I'm here to show support and get others to rally as well.
And I'm hoping for a blue wave in 2026.
What
are the things that affect you the most or that you're the most surprised about?
Oh boy.
So rule of law is really important to me.
My father was a police officer and I'm just appalled at the pardons that Trump has given to criminals and what he's doing to immigrants that are not criminals.
So, you know, I just feel strongly in the rule of law that's what makes our country great.
You know, it's what provides stability and makes people trust our country.
And without it, you know, I think we're in tough shape.
Well, that's Amy Holzen of Chippewa Falls.
And I like that she emphasized something beyond just the budget cuts.
And believe me, the budget cuts are plenty of the protest, people's health care, people's nutrition benefits.
But here in her case, she's actually looking out for others, for law and order, for the criminals being let loose and the immigrants who are being treated as criminals.
And I'm sure
You saw that kind of selflessness in other folks in the crowd as well, Selena.
We're always told, oh, democracy is not the number one issue.
People are worried about their wallets and everything.
You know, it's still kind of important.
Well, and that was the thing too, because...
along with the Wizard of Oz theme, it was, you know, the words of Glinda the Good Witch still hold true today.
And that was kind of the sentiment that because Glinda said, and it was, you know, the rally is talking about coming together to fight for each other.
And so Glinda says, you've always had the power, you've had it all along, my dear.
And so that was kind of the theme of helping each other out and banding together to kind of come together to fight all of these things.
Krista is our representative, Glinda.
You can concur with those remarks.
You talk to people who it's about the budget cuts for some people, but it's about taking care of each other for other people.
I think that for most people...
They are tired of politics.
They are tired of the rhetoric.
They just want to live their lives.
And that's why they're worried about the cost of goods and services because that is real for them.
And the whole democracy thing seems very tied up with politics.
But the truth is, all of that political stuff is what makes prices higher, is what makes it harder to find a job, is what makes it more challenging to get an education.
So it is important to engage in whatever way you can.
And it's delightful to see things like this happening where people don't have to be
They can be creative and fun, but still acknowledge, hey, this isn't what we have, what we want to see for the future of our country.
Well, especially when you consider that people look at others who protest and think, oh, they're just always angry about something and that anger is the fuel for protests and demonstrations.
And that's not necessarily so, that these are friends and neighbors who still have a sense of humor about things, but want to express a particular point of view.
This isn't the only example of that.
There's also the example in, was it Superior?
Was it Superior or Wausau?
Gosh, I lost track now for Congressman Tom Tiffany's office, where they tend to turn the lawn sprinklers at the office building for Tom Tiffany's office just coincidentally seem to come on when there are protesters.
outside of Tiffany's office and so one day they showed up and in when the sprinklers came on they they took off their top layer and they're there they were in swimsuits and flippers and snorkels and things like that and turned it into a beach party because you gotta have a sense of humor about
the music yeah they played huge beach music had umbrellas and they were ready and they were dancing around
yeah art and joy and music will save us trust me lean into it
yeah
along with compassion and empathy, we were reminded many times in the past few days that somebody referred to empathy as like some kind of a new age made up term.
And I think that that really didn't set well with people who are looking at the reactions of the past few days since the Charlie Kirk assassination and saying, you know, actually it's right that we have empathy for one another.
And that includes being against political violence, even against somebody that you didn't agree with.
There's a lot that could be learned if empathy was a bit more of a quality of the people who are in power right now.
And it's right that we talk about it.
I think a lot of us are feeling very afraid to say anything because we're afraid to say the wrong things, but the truth is we have to have these conversations and they have to be from the heart and we have to listen to each other or we will not come to a place where there is a shared understanding.
That's right.
Excellent.
Go
ahead.
Well, I was going to say, you know, it's
That that word I remember putting I think on last year's sheet on the the Meet the Teacher Day Like what do you want just to make sure Emery, you know learns this year or whatever and one of those things that I put on there was empathy and you know to look out for others and think about other people and and and I hope that's what they're kind of kind of relaying in school also
Hope they do as well.
Yeah, it's in it's in shorter supply than it needs to be in this country these days That's for sure.
Let's take a look at sports here at seven
2018 you had the Brewers playing the St.
Louis Cardinals over the weekend and they did clinch a place in the playoffs So there will be postseason baseball for the Brewers, but there's still plenty to play for Because if they they're currently you know best record in baseball the top two records Get a buy in the first round and as we know the Brewers have not done well in the first round of the playoffs So if they could skip that wild card series and get right to the divisional series that would be a good thing So the magic number still stands at eight to clinch the central division, but the Brewers
are in the playoffs, they fell short yesterday three to two against the Cardinals, but they did win on Friday and Saturday.
But as for yesterday, a couple of solo home runs by Caleb Durbin and Danny Janssen were all that they could muster.
The Brewers are off today, and they will be hosting the Los Angeles Angels coming up on Tuesday.
Coverage begins tomorrow at 6.05 on several civic media stations.
Head over to the website to learn more.
Of course, the Packers were off yesterday because they'd won on Thursday.
Their next game is next Sunday, September 21st at noon at Cleveland.
And the Badgers were, well, they were wallowed by Alabama 38 to 14, and they will next open the Big Ten.
season this coming Saturday, hosting Maryland.
You'll hear that on several Civic Media stations as well.
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And this morning's edition of story about how the Wisconsin Beef Council in partnership with Gather Wisconsin is excited to announce the Prime Rib Trail, a statewide guide to restaurants serving up perfectly prepared prime rib.
I saw that.
I shared that to my friends.
Well, there you go.
Official carnivore of the show, Selena Heller will tell us more.
Well, you know, you could do that with fish fries.
People have certainly done it with cheese and wine and breweries.
And so yeah, all of it makes perfect sense.
Why?
Why wouldn't you have that?
So
yes, that is what I say.
There's yeah, it goes.
throughout the state.
There's, you know, in every kind of region.
So there are plenty more stops to be had, but it mentions a few.
I will definitely on a Friday, I'll be thinking, okay, it's Friday, it's fish fry, where do I want to go for fish fry?
And a lot of places they'll have a fish fry.
on that day.
And then they'll have a prime rib special on Saturday.
Thursday and
Saturday is prime
or Thursday and Saturday.
Yes, well, and I have to admit that off the top of my head, there's not a place where I'd be like, Oh, yeah, because I don't think that I'm going out for prime rib tonight.
It's I'm out for dinner.
And I see it on the menu and I
either do or don't want at that particular night, but maybe other people use a little bit more forethought in their prime rib.
Kristen, is that a dining priority for you?
I am not at all a prime rib person, so I cannot speak to that, but...
I can speak to the supper club book that I know you have spoken with the
author and I
cannot think of his name off the top of my head.
But we actually have that book and we will choose a supper club based on that and then we'll bring it and show it to them and have them like write a little note in it.
And it's adorable because so many of these supper clubs are, you know, they're family owned and they're proud of it and it creates a conversation and it becomes a really nice fun experience.
And if you go to Plover and I cannot think of the.
of the supper club in Plover, but I will.
You can actually buy a little cone that looks like a hazard cone in the road and a little orange cone and you pay for like $4 for it.
and you put it on your table so people know that you are a supper club enthusiast, so they'll stop by your table and have a
conversation
with you about supper clubs that you've gone to.
It's so cute.
So it's
kind of in the same vein as the prime rib thing.
You know, it's something to bring people together and have an experience and have a conversation.
Ron Feola.
Yes,
thank you.
Does all the separate club books.
Yes.
Yes.
And the it's been a while since I've talked to him and he was working on like a fourth edition or something like that.
So we really should find out the latest on that.
These things change all the time.
Go ahead, Selena.
I have a plug for a prime rib buffet.
Yeah,
Essel Hill Supper Club in Maryland, kind of back home in my neck of the woods.
And it is coming up because they have special ones throughout the year.
Like one is during Cranberry Festival for those people going to Warrens and staying around the area and deer hunting time.
Prime rib buffet.
What?
That's amazing.
I'm in.
I'm sold.
Me too.
It's around my birthday.
So I couple it with my birthday and it's the
Florence cranberry festival one,
which by the way is coming up September 26 27 28 Yeah, I mean if you are if you're a lot of people driving the interstate and they're they're you know, just what is that just north of Black River fault or just north of Tomah Yeah, between Black River and Tomah and in the middle of nowhere suddenly traffic has stopped and you realize it's all the traffic on 994
getting set to get off in Warren's to take part in this massive festival in this teeny tiny town.
And by the way, the same thing happens a little further to the north up in Stone Lake for their cranberry festival as well.
Yeah.
I have an important update on the coffee and donuts claim that I made earlier.
Yeah, I did text Craig and he said now he needs to stop a quick trip to get a donut.
See, like just the mention of it just sets him off.
I love that he just leans right into it.
He doesn't fight the stereotype.
He's like, oh, no, no, no, I eat only healthy foods.
No.
My favorite thing is El Tuna Police Department.
They're one of their therapy dogs is named Donut.
They actually do a fundraiser in Green Bay that's called Cop on a Rooftop and it's at Duncan Donut.
And they put a cop on top of Duncan Donut's rooftop and they raise a bunch of money for some charity.
It's cute.
Oh, that's
awesome.
Stone Lake Cranberry Festival, by the way, is the following weekend, October 4th.
just the one day only Saturday, October 4th up there in Stone Lake.
So we're getting to that season now where we don't have the, there are no more county fairs, county fair season is done.
And now we're just getting into that fall festival where you either have like the.
perfect weather or the oh my god is it winter already you know with the sleek coming sideways and hopefully it's it's the first and not the second Rob quick on the here to remind us Tigerton Apple Fest is on September 27th.
And Alicia noting they do cop on the roof in Darboy as well.
a lot of sounds here in Eau Claire too.
Yeah.
And Tony reminding us who doesn't lean into donuts.
Exactly.
I'm getting angry myself.
I was gonna say at the at the fall festival was one of the one of the food trucks was their specialty was flavored mini donuts.
So you get a basket of like eight different mini donuts, each one is made up with different types of frosting, you know, your apple cinnamon and your sprinkles and your butters, you know, butterscotch candies and things like that.
So
How am I doing for build a better breakfast month, Parker?
Oh,
you're doing awesome.
Hey, it did not say build a healthy breakfast.
No, it said build a better breakfast.
And it
didn't say how it's supposed to be better.
So that's a great, great point.
You got to find better.
And so as somebody who built a better breakfast this morning with just apple crisp.
I am not gonna, you know, rain on anybody's parade.
If donuts is the way you want to go.
Catch the Dr. Kristen Lirely show again this weekend, head over to Civic Media or wherever you get your podcasts and subscribe.
Selena Heller continues to have all kinds of coverage through us at upnorthnewswi.com and on socials.
Kristen and Selena, thank you very much.
Have a great start to the week.
Right
back
at you brother.
All right thanks so much for helping us kick things off as always and when we come back we're going to talk to Robert Craig from Citizen Action about climate issues and more right after this on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Welcome back on this Monday morning, September 15th.
Nice to have you here across the Civic Media Radio Network.
We were mentioning earlier the Prime Rib Trail story about that in this morning's newsletter.
You can be sure to check that one out.
There's also a story in there on how to apply
for FEMA flood relief if you're in southeast wisconsin now that that disaster aid has been released and a reminder that tomorrow is national voter registration day so it is a good reminder to maybe go check your own status at myvote.wi.gov there's no election anytime soon which means now you've got the time to get registered without all the pressure
double check your registration because sometimes voter files, you know, get cleaned up or modified.
So Voter Registration Day is tomorrow.
That reminder coming from our newsletter at upnorthnewswi.com.
One group that is especially good at reminding you to get registered to vote and get up on the issues is Citizen Action and Robert Craig is the Executive Director for Citizen Action of Wisconsin.
CitizenActionwi.org.
Robert Craig, good morning.
How are you?
I'm good under the circumstances.
Always great to be with you, Pat.
I was gonna say, that's kind of the evergreen answer since January.
We completely understand that.
And we, as part of our movement Mondays, where we try to get in touch with all kinds of groups that are working to defend and enhance democracy and focus on all kinds of issues.
I mean, exhibit A has to be citizen action in terms of choosing those high priority issues
and educating voters about them.
There is let's start with climate because you actually have an event coming up that's related to the climate, which to me seems quite appropriate given that if there's been one, well, there have been many themes from the current administration, but one of them is certainly dealing with not just denying that we have a changing climate, but being hostile to it and doing everything possible to kill the march toward
a new generation of jobs and clean energy and instead go back to as much, you know, coal and oil and fossil fuels as possible.
And citizen action is among the groups saying, you know, on behalf of a majority of Americans, not so fast.
So what's going on?
Well, their mobilizations all over the country actually, some are calling it Sunday.
So you're absolutely right.
The science doesn't change and this is a super majority position.
Most people think that there is a climate crisis and believe we should do something and take the action directed.
Though the small group that is very loud, climate deniers and then you have a government currently at the federal level which is completely captive to the fossil fuel interests and seems to think somehow that
making America great again means going to a dirty, more expensive fossil fuel economy that is increasingly outmoded.
There's not only the question of we need to reduce emissions in order to create a world that is livable for our children and where the beautiful environment we love in Wisconsin is preserved.
But frankly, solar energy in particular has become so inexpensive and is exploding so much all over the world.
what this administration is actually doing is doing something more expensive, also causes a lot of pollution that causes a lot of health problems, lung cancer and asthma, and will increasingly increase people's utility bills that are increasingly unaffordable.
That's why you saw Excel Energy in the western part of the state asking for a 19% increase from the Public Service Commission.
And so the Wisconsin Climate March
is on September 30th.
We're part of a large coalition of environmental groups.
They're pushing it.
It's not only SysNaction's initiative.
So this is very much a joint project in Madison and SysNaction members around the state are going to be joining many others who care about this issue.
And where we are, Pat, is we can't stop.
this administration for the next few years doing what it's going to do, but it doesn't change the science.
It doesn't change the fact that we prevent runaway climate change.
You need to cut emissions in half by 2030.
That's five years from now.
It simply puts the onus on state government and local government.
And so.
As we go into this last legislative session of before a big elections that could change that could and elections that will determine who the governor is and who controls the legislature.
It's critical to make this a key agenda item for a new legislature because it doesn't the science doesn't change and the fact that the federal government's doing the reverse of what it should be doing cannot stop us from addressing this situation.
We're talking to Robert Craig from Citizen Action and one of the measures you're talking about there is called the Climate Accountability Act.
It would require the legislature to pass a concrete and enforceable plan to cut greenhouse gas emissions in half by 2030 and maximize the economic benefits for all Wisconsin residents.
And Citizen Action puts it to its members quite clearly.
Does your state legislator support it?
Go ahead and call and ask.
Ask your state senator.
Ask your state assembly rep if they support something this concrete, this tangible to get us off of fossil fuels and into a new direction, which really comes to the heart of what citizen action is about, is asking questions and sharing information.
Sometimes it's through deep canvassing at the doors.
But sometimes it's just asking pointed questions of your legislators instead of just waiting for the speeches and the press releases is to say, hey, where do you come down on this?
It's a very direct method that citizen action has to when it comes to information and education, right?
Yeah, you're absolutely you put it very well, Pat.
We're trying to create clear issues for people so you can understand what is taking serious action on the climate crisis and what isn't because
Frankly, that gets muddled and muddied in legislative politics and by both parties, quite frankly.
And so there was actually a lot of resistance, even among Democrats and some progressives, introducing the Climate Accountability Act as we worked on it with our members across the state and our organizing cooperatives and with allied legislators.
But once it was released earlier this year, Pat,
it quickly drew 33 cosponsors, including a lot of moderates.
And all it does is it requires the state to do what is scientifically minimally necessary to run away climate change, which is have a plan to kind of emissions in half.
Divisions tend to come once you talk about what the plan is.
And what we wanted to do is get out of that and say, look, if we agree, we have to achieve the outcome, then we have to get serious in a legislative session.
And so this says,
by the end of next legislative session there will be an accountable enforceable plan and the legislature has to figure it out and the governor has to figure it out and so we're continuing to roll this out across the state in different regions and try to build support beyond 33 but what we've learned is that quite that if
If, let's say, the legislature changes hands, that'll be a big fight in 2026.
Let's say you have a Democratic quote-unquote trifecta, that is, Democratic State Assembly, State Senate, and governorship.
It's our experience, and this is what happened when the two years Democrats had full control in the 21st century, a decade and a half ago.
If the agenda isn't already set, the legislature won't.
actually reach agreement even if it's democratic legislation.
So this is trying to set a bold agenda that will actually address our major problems, climate crisis being one of the major ones, but of course there are others like our funding and education like the healthcare crisis.
Or like the one I was going to bring up next, the Hospital Accountability Act, because again, hospital monopolies can
actually threaten a community's health.
And so once again, citizen action has a hospital accountability act and asking, does your state legislator support that?
What is it that people should know about hospital monopolies and the way that they impact Wisconsin healthcare?
Well, we need to understand that, speaking of the science, the research is overwhelming that the primary driving reason for healthcare inflation, which is
I mean, healthcare are so unafforable people that most people with over half of people with insurance are skipping care.
They have insurance, but they don't think they can afford the co-pays deductibles and all the surprise medical bills because you never know what the bill is going to be after any significant medical interaction.
That makes them sicker and they don't get the care or preventive care they need.
Wisconsin in the 1980s, you regulated the hospitals, the hospital association, their trade association said, the market will take care of it.
We used to regulate how much they can charge just like utilities.
Energy utilities have to get their rates approved.
Often we think the government commission, the PSE, approves rate increases they shouldn't, but at least there's an approval process, not true with hospitals.
And then the other thing is that they used to be able to have to get approval to build new expensive things, new hospitals, new facilities to make sure that it was actually needed and wouldn't increase prices.
We got rid of both those regulations.
They've consolidated and become even bigger and bigger monopolies, and they've dramatically increased prices so much that in Wisconsin we have the highest hospital cost in the Midwest and the fifth highest in the country.
And they're more than triple what is charged to Medicare, which is a sufficient rate in our wonderful Medicare system.
And so we've been working with Senator Jeff Smith, a good friend of yours from the western part of the state, Eau Claire and a lot of the rural areas south and west of Eau Claire.
And I hope to introduce that this fall, but it would restore regulation of what the price is.
And it would also restore state approval to build expensive new facilities.
And it would therefore approve them if you're building facilities in underserved areas like rural areas that have no lack of hospitals, lack of birthing centers, et cetera, and urban areas like in Central City, Milwaukee.
And you would not be able to build duplicative stuff just to get more market share and make more profit.
and then raise all of our prices.
So we hope to be introducing that soon.
We hope that they'll be just like with the Climate Accountability Act, a lot of support for that.
By the way, by doing that, you could also free up a lot of money to put into the Medicaid system path that would actually help mitigate the horrible cuts that are coming down the road because of Donald Trump's big, ugly bill.
And also there's one about utility costs and a note that says,
that legislators should consider a 2% income cap on utilities.
In other words, no one should be paying more than 2% of their income for utilities.
Ask your state legislators if they support that as well.
And that too, in a way, comes back to, again, market control, monopolies.
Are you working for the shareholders?
Are you working for your customers?
Again, a common theme from Citizen Action.
Yeah, I was just talking about the hospital monopolies.
utility monopolies.
They have a legalized monopoly.
They're the only ones that can provide power within a service region.
And they've used it to block renewable energy people can control, like rooftop solar, unless you have the money to get a loan yourself, and that's middle and upper, middle-flash people who think to do it and figure it out.
And energy conservation measures that would reduce the amount of energy we use
We have a vast amount of energy conservation we could do with commercial and residential buildings that hasn't been done.
We're just wasting energy.
Because utilities make profit, Pat, by selling more of it and building huge large plants, especially fossil fuel plants, that they can securitize through Wall Street and other financial arrangements in order to make a massive capital investment profit.
over a 40-year period where they're building far more of this capacity, which is expensive and raises all our rates than we need.
It also hearts the climate.
And it also causes pollution that harms people.
And so this changes the incentives, and it is being granted as well.
It says that you are going to pay more if people are paying far too high a rate for their utilities.
And 2% is a reasonable amount that people can afford at any income level.
middle upper middle class people pay around that now low income people pay much more 15.20% then they can't afford that then they can't pay rent.
So that I mean and there's so many more options that we didn't even get into there's the badger care public option there's a $20 minimum wage all that more citizen action will be working on in the fall legislative session so Robert I hope you just come back and we can talk about more of that in the future Robert Craig from Citizen Action of Wisconsin thank you sir good to talk to you as always.
Great.
Always a pleasure, Pat.
You're a real pro.
Always great to bother you.
Thank you.
I appreciate it very much.
Joe Casasamaripa, candidate for Wisconsin Secretary of State is coming up in our eight o'clock hour.
I'm Pat Crightlow and this is the Civic Media Radio Network.
752 the time here now live from Chippewa Falls and Madison studio A2 where Parker Olson is producing this final shouldn't dig and and Bosco bell Wisconsin as well where Jimmy Cusco joins us to talk about the weekend in sports which It was nice that the Packers got that win in their backpockets on Thursday night because it freed up a gorgeous Sunday to get some stuff done Unless you were what a Bears fan and you had to watch your team
How many points were scored on the Bears by the Lions?
52 points,
I believe?
I think they just scored it again, actually, Pat.
I
just flipped over.
Oh, no, no fun.
Jimmy, how are you doing?
I'm doing great.
What's great about September is that even if I have a day where I'm like, I don't know what I'm going to get done today.
I don't know what to look forward to.
Chances are there's a football game on somewhere.
Yes.
That's true.
This time of the year, I could just flip that on.
And on the other hand, too, the other thing I can look forward to is the Brewers who clinched the playoff spot over the weekend in an impressive game coming down from down big to rally and win, which they've done a few times this year.
I tell you, you know, we thought maybe earlier this summer that the Brewers might have peaked or something and that they're winning too many games in a row in like July, but here we are in September and they're still winning games.
They're they're way out in front.
You know, now they have a clinch playoff spot.
They're playing for the number one seed.
I tell you, it's a good time to be a baseball fan as well.
It's not just football season.
The Brewers are certainly stealing the hearts of many right now in Wisconsin.
Yeah.
I mentioned at the top of the show that that Saturday.
night comeback was amazing for the people who weren't me, who didn't give up on the team and went to bed and said, well, okay, this one's a loss.
No, it wasn't.
It was one of the best comebacks.
I think their 11th walkoff of the season and this team is now going to the playoffs, just a matter of whether they get that first round by or not.
And manager Pat Murphy also over the weekend read a letter to the team that was said to be from Bob Uker to be read once they were clenched to a playoff spot.
Why don't we give a listen to that?
It's just just a little over a minute and a half of Pat Murphy reading this Uker letter.
I got a letter today from Uke.
And before we toast, I want to read it.
Thought it was fitting in the last time that we celebrated you was with us Howdy boys never a doubt you would get this invitation You did it by believing Really miss you guys and I wish I was there Things are good.
The God Almighty picked me to be on his team up here I'll be it.
I'm the third catcher
It's a great league.
No day games after night games.
No shadows.
But you got all the sticky you need to have up here.
Told the big guy about you guys.
You play hard every night.
You're not afraid to play for each other.
He's obviously very interested in the group with this uncommon goodness.
The fact that you have the best record in baseball, the best road record in baseball is caught his attention.
You don't really need me.
I know you guys really don't need me, but I've got to tell you, I'll be on the headset every night watching.
And don't forget to take it all in, enjoy it, keep it light, and believe in each other.
Bob Uker.
So let's toast to him and to our team what we've achieved so far.
Hey, hey.
That was a very nice moment there where the team, again, just kind of invokes the Bob Euker spirit and reminds each other that that's how they're doing this.
They're not doing this with massive superstar contracts.
This is just a team that knows how to play well with each other.
Yeah, and I think even more impressively is just how dominant it's been, right?
I mean, you expect
the brewers, you know, going in every year that, you know, that could be competitive.
They might play for a wild card, whatever.
You don't expect them to go and, you know, have own the tiebreaker against the Dodgers and the Phillies and all these teams that have got, you know, bazillion dollar payrolls.
And I think that's what's really been impressive about it.
And that and the fact that it just seems like every week there's a new
you know, viral moment with this team where, you know, uh, some, somebody who they just picked up in a trade like two days ago or, or signed, you know, signed up, you know, or promoted or whatever within the organization, uh, within the last couple of weeks, all of a sudden they're out there contributing to all of this.
It hasn't been just one guy that's been raking or one pitcher that's been just blowing people away.
It's been everybody.
And that's been the most exciting part of it is that you don't go into the postseason having to rely on one or two guys.
It's, it's, it's all 26 and that's.
I think that's just a testament to just how well the Brewers have developed, how they've managed not having the payroll of other teams.
That's what makes it exciting.
It makes them an incredibly easy team to root for.
Well, and I'd come back to the coaching as well, because the Cincinnati Reds, I mean, the number of outfielder collisions that they had over the weekend was, I mean, just embarrassing.
And that
You know, you can blame some of that on the players, but there's definitely an element of coaching involved in that as well.
Brewers are off today.
They continue the homestand tomorrow against the Los Angeles Angels.
Coverage begins tomorrow at 6.05 on several civic media stations.
The Badgers played Alabama over the weekend.
Well, the Badgers were in Alabama.
They were on the field.
They weren't the only team in right having a tough weekend from the state of Wisconsin.
still 38 14 and it really wasn't that close.
You have Danny O'Neill subbing for injured starting quarterback Billy Edwards who did go 11 of 1717 yards.
He had a 41 yard touchdown past Jaden Ballard.
There was Vinnie Anthony who returned to kick off 95 yards for a score.
Now the Badgers open the Big Ten part of their schedule next Saturday, hosting Maryland.
You'll be able to hear that game on several civic media stations.
But Parker's already made a bold guess on how many wins the Badger football team is going to rack up this year.
Parker, what's that big old number?
I see no more than
like three.
Three.
Not really going out on a limb, because if, as I tell people, just look at the October schedule and tell me where you think the Badgers are going to pull one off.
It's going to be, it's going to be a tough one.
Well, there you go.
It's, it's coming from Civic Media Sports Director, Jimmy Cuskas.
So, you're in good company there.
Jimmy, thank you so much.
Have a great start to the week.
We'll talk to you on Wednesday.
Talk to you Wednesday, guys.
All right.
We've got a busy morning here.
We had this morning's announcement of State Senator Kelder-Royce running for Wisconsin governor.
And we also have Joe Castezema-Ripo from the Milwaukee Common Council running for Wisconsin Secretary of State.
And we're going to be talking to her in the next hour, right after the news here on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Live, across Wisconsin on Civic Media, you're listening to Mornings with Pat Craiglow powered by Up North News.
Now, for my Lake Mesota studio, here is the founding editor of Up North News, Pat Craiglow.
Good morning again.
It is 806.
Nice to have you back here up north on this Monday morning, September 15th.
Parker Olson producing us down in Madison's Studio A2.
We've got Jocasta Zamorrepa coming up.
She's a member of Milwaukee Common Council, a former state legislator, and now a candidate for Wisconsin's Secretary of State.
the announcement or the the visit I should say comes on the day of an announcement by state senator Kelda Roy's that she is getting into the governor's race so she will be joining Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodriguez and Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley on the Democratic side.
all competing for the nomination in August of next year to run for Wisconsin governor.
Okay, while we're in Madison, let's head down the hallway to Studio A1 where we find John and Gordy from our Madison Station WMDX there.
Emmy award-winning John and Gordy, or at least I mean...
You don't know you don't know that they're not because they were given any still like so many different things I've never heard of before That why wouldn't John and Gordy win an Emmy too for some channel that I've never watched before Way to sell you guys.
How are you?
For
you.
Well, thanks.
Yeah, I agree.
You know, we're waiting for that notice in the mail from the Emmys.
One of these days we'll get it.
Well,
we're up for the best of Madison and Madison Magazine.
Just like Milwaukee Magazine.
We're here in Madison.
We're up for the best of Madison.
And I have a feeling that we're going to win, Pat.
I'm just going to jinx.
I'm going to feel good about it now.
Can you keep your
head about it later?
Can you keep your acceptance speech to 45 seconds or less?
That's right.
That was the challenge last night.
That was an unusual little ploy and it helped him make it through the program.
Well, and I also think, yeah, it was a nice device or crutch, depending on your point of view to have.
And let's face it, the Boys and Girls Club made well more than $100,000 by the time.
I mean, you can't buy that kind of advertising.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
It was a good move overall.
Now, Sherry and I did watch it.
We did get through many categories saying never saw it.
never heard of it.
I don't want to watch that.
Oh,
there's one I've heard of.
And then of course, that one didn't win.
So I guess we're just uncultured slobs.
I don't know.
But the
thing that bothers me is that Apple TV has all these award winning shows.
And who has Apple TV anyway?
Yeah,
like all these others that okay, you're going to pay this much for the Hulu.
Yeah,
this much for Apple TV and this much for Netflix.
And
crime.
And I love
that they're now they're all talking about.
Well, let's make it easier to let's bundle some of these so you can just pay one bill.
Yeah, it was called cable.
Yeah,
we warned everybody, you know, if you want to separate all this stuff out and pay individually, you're going to pay a whole hell of a lot more.
Were we right?
I mentioned during the six AM hour, and I want to bring it up again that there was this one moment, though, that was especially telling when they honored the Golden Girls on their 40th anniversary.
And there were some folks, Reba McIntyre and others who came out and sang the theme song.
Thank you for being a friend by Andrew Gold.
And you could see everybody in the crowd was mouthing the words because everybody knows the words.
People were moving to the music.
And I'll give Sherry Cudder for saying it first.
She's like, see, that's what TV used to do.
We all know the words to that because we all saw it because we'd all come together and watch the same few programs.
I defy you to come up with anything even close to that.
from nowadays when people would go, Oh, yeah, I know, I know that theme or I know that show.
It just doesn't TV doesn't do that for us anymore.
Divide it fragments us as much as possible.
Yes.
Well, not
only that, but they don't they don't do those kind of little theme show songs at the beginning of shows anymore.
Yeah, just
start the show, you know, without.
There's
those were really nice because because it kind of set you up for what
the
show is about.
You
know, yes, exactly.
Now, I mean, with
There's limited exceptions.
Tony catches one on YouTube.
Hey, Game of Thrones brought us all together.
Yeah, kind of.
But again, not everybody had HBO.
You know, not everybody was watching it.
And frankly, the theme while compelling was also really depressing.
Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
Oh, yeah.
Let's get happy and watch a dragon roast somebody.
That's that's some good family viewing right there.
I think Penguin brought everybody together, though.
Penguin.
Where was that on?
I saw that.
I'm like, who's got a show called Penguin now?
Well, I don't know.
I think that was on max.
The thing is, it's a very dark.
No, it's not going to bring people together necessarily.
Yeah.
And as somebody who grew up on the Adam West, you know, Bert Ward version, the campy TV one.
Yeah, I didn't mind when the first couple of Batman movies were a little bit darker.
It's like,
You know, it's a crime series.
It's a comic book thing.
But I mean, now it's gone to this place where it's just unwatchable unless you really get into really dark stuff.
And, you know, that's that's definitely not my cup of tea.
But
well, it was it was a really good series, though, very, very odd and strange.
And the villain in it
won an Emmy last night.
She
did such a fantastic job.
I can't recall her name, but she did such a great job.
And to see her out on the stage exuberant, even that shout that yell that she gave for winning the award was just so much fun.
I mean, she really truly enjoys getting into the acting.
did did did she swear to because it felt like every other again, the thing that made it tough to watch on a broadcast network was everybody felt the need to, you know, drop an audio warden and there'd be that seven second delay, you
know, and then you
start to hear the show again.
And I think maybe that makes them feel good.
But it really try to think of your audience, you know, we can't do you.
Well, see, I have a thing here on this show.
And what we'd like to do is say the s word on this program, we'd like to say it more often.
It's in almost every clip now.
Everybody's talking about it.
Everybody gets to say it on network news and it's in these network clips that I'm trying to play on the show.
I think, you know, someday we'll get to that point just like hell, you know, just like damn made it.
But do we have to, you know, I mean, is that, is it inevitable that we go?
We have to, we have to, I'm sorry.
I mean, I just worried that maybe that's a little too much exposure to Catherine down there, you know, the station manager, maybe warped your view of language.
Yeah,
so
maybe, although I like, like I said before, nothing, nothing taught me to swear like TV and radio behind the scenes.
I learned words from my first TV director when I was operating the camera and I mean
You wish it could be as family friendly as damn it.
Quite low.
Why are you doing that?
It's like, no, no, no, no.
Far beyond that.
It's almost a magical experience.
Really.
I mean, we do swear off the air, but for some reason when that microphone is open, we don't do it.
I don't know.
It's magic.
I mean, you have to.
It's like working at the lumber yard and knowing not to put your hand in the saw.
You know, it's just it just comes.
Okay.
You know, I like that.
There you go.
So I mentioned a couple of times.
It was just a gorgeous weather weekend and we hit the fall festival in downtown Eau Claire over the weekend.
Were you guys at any particular events or was it a good housework weekend?
I was at a big event in Milwaukee.
I went to see Ringo Starr.
Oh, Ringo Starr.
And his all-star
band.
And
John actually purchased a
A Ringo star t-shirt for me.
Oh, look at that.
A piece in love.
A piece symbol on
there.
He's loving
Ringo.
Oh, I like it.
See, isn't that incredible?
It's just wonderful.
What a great experience seeing Ringo do all the songs that he actually sang with the Beatles.
Nice.
Thank God they
made him a
singer in some of the songs, you know.
That t-shirt actually cost you $100 because I feel like concert t-shirts are getting outrageous now.
Well, it was $40.
Really?
You spent that much.
This is the
first
time he's ever given me anything in 40 years.
Well, Gordy has given me things, but it's because he's just cleaning house.
I gave you a banjo.
I
picked it up for 25 bucks at a garage sale.
Wait,
do one of you want to play a banjo?
I used to play banjo.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This
is actually the inspiration Steve Martin or Kermit the frog or somebody else
five string banjo, um, uh, more like Steve Martin, maybe.
This was
actually a guitar banjo.
It looks
exactly like a banjo.
I mean, it plays like a banjo, looks like
a
banjo, but it's actually got six strings and tuned like a guitar.
Like a guitar.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Okay.
Did did did you either last night or other things like the like the Oscars?
Do you watch any of the red carpet coverage and look at the the outfits and try
a little I saw a little bit of that.
My wife and loves watching that
stuff.
Oh, yeah.
Some people really do and
I mean, if we happen to be a couple of minutes early to the broadcast, we'll put on a little bit of it.
And I just remember turning to Sharon going, I can't pull that off as Walter Goggins came in.
Is it white lotus that he's on or one of the others?
He's got the
slicked back hair.
Some
weird thing.
He
had just he was dressed in white, white slacks, white shirt, white coat.
And the shirt, of course, was open to the navel.
and he had the gold chains on.
I mean, it was as 70s as it gets.
And
I
thought that's, that's a bold move in 2025, but you know, he could pull it off.
There was Jenna Ortega who was basically, basically she rated her grandma's jewelry box.
And
instead of wearing an actual top, she was just wearing in chains all of these.
like broaches and other jewels and things.
I kept
waiting for some strange movement of some sort,
you know,
accident.
Yeah, you wouldn't want to start a dance contest with her.
And the strange thing is she plays a young girl like a teenager
in the shows that
she's, yeah.
And to see her as an adult, I mean, she's in her 20s, early 20s.
You know, it's just strange.
It almost seems
Uh, wrong.
Maybe what you're
looking for there.
Yeah.
But that's, you know, I know
people
play roles that are either much younger or much older than them.
You know, remember the first time what's it called the Wilford brimley challenge or whatever when an actor is actually older than they were when Wilford brimley.
Portrayed the old guy in cocoon, you
know,
or you look at Carol O'Connor when he played Archie Bunker.
He was like 44 years old or something like that, you know, or 48, but not in his 60s the way that you would look.
And that goes both ways with people like friends, you know, no group of people in their mid 30s is going to be living like that.
They're basically portraying people in their mid 20s.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, that
was a crazy show.
Yeah,
love that.
It kind of makes you wonder what they think of all of us when we're on TV.
But first off, they think that I'm like, six, five, well, you're a TV anchor, you must be six feet tall.
No, no, just sit in the chair.
And how many times you guys must get, oh, you don't look like you sound at all on the radio.
That's
right.
People
use their imaginations.
They enjoy imagining us as very attractive young men.
Don't they?
We want to posture that, so we're turning the camera off right now.
We only got about a minute left till break.
So was there a principal primary topic from the show today that people are talking about in the Madison
area?
It was still Charlie Kirk.
That's
what we do
here on the program.
Yep.
No,
we did.
We did a lot of that.
And I lost track now.
Somebody just put up a number of how many times Derek Van Orden has tweeted about it, threatening funds or hurling insults or whatever.
We got to that.
It's in the
hundreds.
It's something else.
He
really is out
there.
It really is.
By the way, he says we're in a civil war from now on.
So
there you
go.
That's
Derek Van Orden.
That's what you want from a member of Congress there.
We're talking to John and Gordy from WMDX in Madison, part of the Civic Media Radio Network.
And then coming up in our next half hour, we'll be talking to Joe Castez Amaripa, who is a candidate for Wisconsin Secretary of State.
Brewer's were losers to the Cardinals yesterday, three to two, but they still took two out of three off today.
And they begin a series at home against the Los Angeles Angels tomorrow night.
Live from the heart of America is up north.
Thanks for making this the place to
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We talked earlier about the Prime Rib Trail, something that was created to help you find all the restaurants that
make primary but priority on their menu across Wisconsin.
It's also voter registration day tomorrow.
So a little reminder that this week you can go check your voter registration status and make sure that you're on the rolls, you know, kind of beat the rush before all of next year's busyness with the elections that are going on.
And a story in there on how to apply for FEMA flood relief.
Again, head to UpNorthNewsWI.com for that.
And in our weekend newsletter,
We're talking to John and Gordy from WMDX in Madison.
And guys, I got to tell you that in the weekend newsletter, I accidentally broke our readers.
I gave them a multiple choice question.
And I said, I pointed out that Ron Johnson
Once again, last week on September 11th, you know, spreading the false conspiracy theory that there must have been explosives in the basement of building seven.
What else would explain how it came down?
And I said, the question was this, if you could get Ron Johnson to stop talking forever about one conspiracy, which would it be?
Would it be 2016?
where he claims that Ukraine was actually the one that was meddling in the election and not Russia, or 2020, where he was very nearly a mule for the fake elector's ballots from Wisconsin, or the World Trade Center conspiracy, or the COVID conspiracy that there's some conspiracy that keeps us from knowing the truth about ivermectin.
And I
did not put in all of the above in there.
And that was
the,
I mean, the message you're flooding like, I can't pick one from
this guy.
You can't, you can't pick one.
That's how he spends his time.
It's unbelievable.
Such a waste of time for a senator.
I know.
Well,
here, I got a waste of time for it.
I found the number.
The latest number of Derek Van Orden tweets related to the Charlie Kirk murder last week is around 550.
Wow, 550 tweets.
And most of those are reposts where he gets the post by somebody else, their reaction, he doesn't like their reaction.
So he puts it up there and either says, we need to get this person fired, or we need to cut federal funding, or he calls them words that we can't say on the radio,
this
from a sitting member of Congress.
I've not looked at that.
And guys, I, you know, you, you talk to people all the time as do I. We talked to people who are, you know, range from center left to center right and in that middle part of the spectrum is nothing but a feeling like, look, violence is never the right answer.
Retribution is never the right alternative.
Let's look for peaceful ways to go forward.
And then you got people like Terry Van Orden, Donald Trump and others that I would
I guess I'm not really going out on a limb to say that's not being helpful right now.
No.
And that most people, most people you talk to would would not fit in that category.
Well, I have to admit, I was trolling the right in the last two days.
I was just answering their crazy accusations, you know, that Democrats are the murder party.
Oh, yeah.
And, you know, I was responding to all of that.
I was trying to at least sound
You know credible in some way shape or form about using profanities and without accusations Trying to get at the heart of their argument which they have a hard time getting to Without calling people names and calling, you know, we're the murder party,
right?
This just gets to the whole notion of freedom of speech and that was as you know from the Madison campus being right there That's always a hotbed of you know, what is cancel culture versus?
maybe let's not invite somebody who's going to be delivering, you know, a message of hate or what have you.
But it sure seems like a case of, well, there's freedom of speech for Charlie Kirk, but not necessarily freedom of speech about Charlie Kirk.
Yes, that's different.
Yeah.
Yeah, we were talking with former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin this morning on the air about just that thing about, you know, we're polarized, but he believes firmly in the freedom of speech.
and that we should go ahead and be able to say these kind of things both sides.
But
as I mentioned to him, there's also an echo chamber on the right, where they don't get the blowback, they don't get the criticism, and they don't expect to get the criticism.
And when they do, they call us names for doing it.
Yeah,
a lot of name calling it.
And look, I get that this is this is very upsetting for people who were his supporters or who agree with him.
But
the tone of the reactions has been, shall
we
say, indicative of the times that we live in.
Well, let's end on a much later note.
We talked about the brewers winning two out of three from the Cardinals, but then thank goodness we've always got the Cubs.
And
you were mentioning
Anthony Rizzo, you know, when you don't have your baseball glove with you, your skills just aren't what they what they ought to be,
right?
Yeah, he was out in left field at the Wrigley field with Eddie, Eddie Vedder and Cindy Crawford.
He was there to retire as a cub basically for the weekend.
Okay.
And they were honoring him and the ball came out the left field and he didn't he almost caught it.
It was in his hands.
One hand.
Just like John Peterson a couple of weeks
ago.
Just like it happened to me when we went out to see the Brewers and the Cubs.
Wow.
This is a replay and I can be now compared to Anthony Rizzo.
It's amazing, you know.
Yeah.
So much alike.
Yeah.
I would have drawn the comparisons to Rizzo from the Muppet show before I would have gone with Anthony Rizzo.
But I understand.
I
mean, I have caught a foul ball.
But I've also nearly had my fingers dislocated from the t-shirt gun, you know, shooting
those things
up.
And then they come down and they didn't catch it quite right at the top of the fingers.
And I mean, the
when they say they put on your little ticket or whatever that you have to take responsibility for anything that gets flung into the audience.
They're not kidding.
And that in Anthony Rizzle's case might include a little public humiliation.
You never know what's going to come up next.
Yeah,
that's John and Gordy weekdays from six to eight on our Civic Media Station Madison WMDX guys.
It's always fun.
Thank you so much for kicking the week off.
Thank you, Pat.
Yeah, thank you.
Have a great start to your week.
When we come back, we're going to be talking to Joe Castizema Rippa.
She's on the Milwaukee Common Council, a former state legislator and now a candidate for Wisconsin's Secretary of State.
I'm Pat Critello.
This is the Civic Media Radio Network.
you
Nice to have you back on this Monday morning, September 15 835 is the time right now.
Up North News is a separate entity from civic media, though we are well, we're like best buds, we're like peanut butter and jelly weekday mornings from six until nine.
And you can catch what we're doing at Up North News over at Up North News wi.com.
Up North News is part of Courier Newsroom, which has state based outlets around the country, podcasts, newsletters.
One I'd like to tell you about is done by Melissa Ryan.
It's
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Needless to say, she's following up on the Charlie Kirk killing and what the reaction says about America.
It's a good stuff to be reading.
Head over to couriernewsroom.com for that newsletter and much more.
We are getting into talking about the candidates for the 2026 election for all kinds of posts.
It all started with Tony Evers saying that he's not going to run for a third term as governor.
And so this morning, State Senator Kela Roy's announced she's running for governor.
Milwaukee County Executive David Crawley is running for governor.
Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodriguez is going to be running for governor.
So who's going to run for Lieutenant Governor?
Well, Secretary of State Sarah Godluschi has announced that she's going to be running for Lieutenant Governor.
So who's going to be running for Secretary of State?
All right, I got your candidate right here, Joe Casta-Zameripa, former legislator, and now a Milwaukee Common Council member joins us from the Milwaukee area.
Joe Casta, nice to see you again.
How are you?
Good morning, Pat Craig.
Well, thanks for the invitation today.
My pleasure.
Nice to have you here.
We're going to get into the Secretary of State's office and why you're running for it and all of that in just a sec.
But for folks who have not heard from you previously, we'd love to hear all about you.
Give us a little bit about your own story that took you to where you are today.
Of course.
Well, I was first.
elected back in 2010 when I won a seat in the state assembly and so I served for nearly a decade, just about a decade in the state assembly representing the near south side of the city of Milwaukee.
I was honored to be the first Latina woman elected to the state legislature following and Pedro Colón's footsteps, our first Latino.
to ever serve in the state legislature.
And from there, after serving 10 years, decided to make the jump to local government.
And I ran in 2020 successfully for the Milwaukee Common Council, again, as a history maker, being the first Latinaian, first openly LGBTQ plus member of the Milwaukee Common Council.
And now I'm ready to go for it and run statewide in hopes that Wisconsinites will have me and I'd like me to be our next Secretary of State.
Can you talk a bit about both your time on the Common Council in Milwaukee and as a legislator, the kinds of things that were high priority issues and or accomplishments for you?
Absolutely.
Well, you know, I came in in 2011, like it or not, it was a bittersweet time for us.
We came in.
If you recall, Pat Crightlow, that was kind of what we referenced as the bloodbath for the Dems.
Scott Walker came in and they swept in, had a majority in both houses, the assembly and the state senate.
And so they promptly came down with the budget repair bill and Act 10.
And we saw those historic protests by labor, by teachers, by Wisconsinites from across the state come down to our state capital and protest.
um taking away the collective bargaining rights of worker public workers uh and so that's what I came into in 2010 and it's funny I don't know if I'm a I'm it's it's an interesting I hate to say I'm a bad luck charm but that was 2010 when I was elected coming in in 2011 in 2020 I was elected to the common council in the height of the pandemic
which was a very nightmarish time for a candidate.
As you can imagine, we had to come off the doors.
And you know, Pat, that in local elections, smaller elections, knocking on doors, door canvassing as the lifeblood of a successful campaign, I had to come off the doors in the middle of my campaign and got elected again at the height of the pandemic when everything was virtual.
And it was pretty traumatic, both my initial inauguration in 2011 as a state legislator and again.
my initial swearing in as an alder in 2020.
It's an interesting narrative.
Yes, you deserve a normal cycle.
I think you've got that coming for you.
What kinds of things do you especially like working on as a legislator and a common council member?
You know, in the legislature, I was seen as the go-to for immigration policy, for pro-immigration policy.
I was honored to work with my own Democratic colleagues.
And believe it or not, there was a time
that there were Republicans who were wanting to see things like comprehensive immigration reform, things like driver's licenses from documented Wisconsinites.
We know that there are many workers in our state that want to get to work safely, to and from work, get their children to and from school safely.
And so these were really, I was seen as kind of the point person on immigration reform, but I also did some things that folks don't even realize a lot of small business.
policy like working on our alcohol policy in this state.
I'm the one who helped pass a bipartisan bill to allow local distillers to be able to sample their products.
Just a teeny, you know, one ounce, half an ounce sample at grocers and retailers.
And this really opened the door for so many of our local distillers to be able to compete with their national counterparts.
for talking to Joe Castes, Emma Reep, she's a candidate for Wisconsin Secretary of State.
Why Secretary of State?
What made you want to run for this statewide position in 2026?
Well,
honestly, Pat, I'll tell you, I was looking at LG, Lieutenant Governor.
I thought that I'd make a really excellent lieutenant governor.
I was looking at that position seriously knowing that Tony may bow out.
And so when he did, I thought I would make a play for a lieutenant governor.
But upon hearing about Sarah Godluschi's.
intentions to run for LG.
I think that she is an amazing candidate.
I think she's been great as our treasurer, as our Secretary of State, having already tried to run for a statewide seat.
And so I decided to go ahead and re-examine.
I thought, well, you know, I would
be honored to be her successor.
She's done some great work as our Secretary of State, and I'd love to succeed both she and Douglas Follett and continue to serve in this office as a Democrat.
And we need that right now more than ever.
Yes, and here's why.
It's really, yes, there are duties that come with Secretary of State, and prior to that, Sarah Gailewski served as state treasurer.
But there's just also a lot to be said for winning and holding the office.
We know that Republicans in the legislature took away a lot of duties from both positions.
We're talking about eliminating state treasurer.
But when it gets to Secretary of State, while they have watered down the duties so much,
They're also, they've indicated they are more than ready.
If they were to win the governor's race and hold the legislature, they would turn that Secretary of State's office into, you know, an election overseer that would be, let's just say, not exactly unbiased, correct?
And so there's a lot of importance to holding that office so that, frankly, it can't be abused.
Exactly, Pat.
This is one of the reasons why more than a Secretary of State position, the Democrats have to retain this.
We know what they've done already in this election denying nonsense.
We know that there was some hullabaloo over Supreme Court justice protease, which is this oath of office.
The Secretary of State maintains the oaths of office.
And so we need to make sure we have a Democrat that's not in that office that is not going to have any shenanigans going on.
We have to make sure to keep it out of Republican hands at every cost.
Yeah, for folks who would say, well, wait a minute, we have the Wisconsin elections commission for that.
Well.
The whole reason we have a Wisconsin elections commission is that when Republicans took control of the legislature, they got rid of the government accountability board, which was acting on a much higher level with retired judges who were fair arbiters.
They created this Wisconsin elections commission, which is designed to have a three to three deadlock.
They created something with three Republican members, three Democratic members.
And so sometimes it works quite well.
but sometimes there's deadlock and there's nothing that says, like I said earlier, they couldn't then replace the Wisconsin Elections Commission with a single Republican Secretary of State and do goodness knows what to election administration, which you hear about firsthand, Jocasta, because it seems like every election cycle, you get the, oh, Milwaukee's numbers are coming in late, there must be something suspicious going on in Milwaukee when, you know, the real story is nothing like that.
Absolutely.
And I've been, of course, as you can imagine, I'm an old war horse.
I've been through many election cycles.
I have seen...
the Republicans that come out to Milwaukee and try to harass and intimidate voters as they try to go to their polling location.
So I can only imagine what a nightmare it would be for us if a Republican were to get their hands on the Secretary of State office.
So I'm hoping to get out there and meet Wisconsinites from every corner of the state and earn their support next year in August for the primary and November for the general.
That's right, Joe Castizetti.
Marie Pio is running for Wisconsin Secretary of State.
And as always, we tend to find candidates when they're on the road here and there.
You're on the road, but you're in the hometown because you've got Hispanic Heritage Month kicking off.
And we did explain earlier in the show.
why Hispanic Heritage Month begins on September 15th in the middle of the month.
And it's because so many countries in Central America declared their independence on this day.
Can you talk just a bit more about Hispanic Heritage Month and the importance of marking it as you're doing today?
Yes.
Yes, we are.
Thank you, Pat, for that.
We are kicking off this past weekend.
We kicked off Hispanic Heritage Month.
We know that I am Mexican-American.
Mexico celebrates its Independence Day.
I believe it was yesterday.
And so you'll see a lot of festivities going on.
But as you said, it's Independence Day for many Latin American countries.
And so it's important that we continue to celebrate our Latino.
community here in Wisconsin.
We are the fastest growing population in the great state of Wisconsin.
And so now more than ever, especially because so many Latino and immigrant families are under attack.
in particular by the federal government under President Trump.
It's really important that we lift up these folks.
We want to make sure that Latinos are part of the fabric of the great state of Wisconsin, just like our German and Polish neighbors before us.
We, too, are immigrants who came to this great state and want to add to its culture and value and economics.
And so I'm eager to celebrate Hispanic Heritage Month with Latinos, with Wisconsinites across the board.
Well, and also making sure that there isn't that you minimize the degree of intimidation because we've seen that in Milwaukee too.
We've seen billboards and other messages talking all about voter fraud and making people almost afraid to go vote.
And so having you on the ballot and as an active candidate seems to me like that.
That can play a real positive role in encouraging voter turnout and voter registration.
Absolutely.
And of course, I want to represent all Wisconsinites here in the great city of Wisconsin.
But as a history maker, as somebody who was the first Latino woman and a couple of governmental bodies, I do see the value of.
Having that diversity on the ticket, I want to galvanize our Latino electorate.
I want them, I want to get them voting.
If they have the right to vote, I want them to vote in every election.
And of course, as a Democrat, I want them to vote Democrat.
We have seen over the last few election cycles that we are hemorrhaging some Latino voters to the conservative side.
And I just can't have that.
It's one of the reasons that I was inspired to run statewide in hopes of being that voice for, again, the fastest growing population.
in the great state of Wisconsin, our Hispanic community.
And now you hear how it is that she came to be 10 years in the legislature and all these years on the Common Council, and now a candidate for Wisconsin Secretary of State, Jocasta Samaripa.
So good to talk to you as always.
Safe travels to you, and thank you for spending some time with us this morning.
Thank you, Pat Kratlow.
All right, have a great day.
Good to see you.
When we come back, a somewhat familiar.
face and voice a globe trotter, a traveler.
So you might remember Jane Mattenair is her name.
And we'll catch up with her at kind of where in the world is Jane Mattenair.
It turns out it might actually be back in a radio studio.
So we'll talk about her travels when we come back.
Tomorrow, we're going to have Dan Schaefer, Cam Stevenson, and Dan Hagen from Newswatch 12 and Rhinelander.
So join us tomorrow morning as well.
I'm Pat Kratlow.
This is the Civic Media Radio Network.
Now, along with all the usual sites, the Civic Media website, Civic Media Facebook page, Civic Media YouTube page, where you can watch us do the show.
You can also do that at the Up North News Facebook page, the Up North News YouTube page.
But then if you want more and more place to surf to and get updates on things.
This show has a Facebook page.
Just head over to facebook.com and look for mornings with Pat Crite low and you'll find we we run the video feed there as well and other things of interest like when Keldor Roy's announced her run for governor early this morning and other news and notes throughout the course of the day I'd love to have you following me on social media Somebody that I used to follow I can follow her again because she's back Jane McNair
American tourist is back here in the States now after going to one of her favorite places, which is also my new favorite place and that would be Portugal.
Jane, how are you?
Welcome back.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Hold on.
Let me, that was my button, not your button.
Jane, welcome back.
Thank you so much.
It is always reassuring when my key card still works.
Because, you know, you show up after a couple of weeks and it's like, well, we'll give it a try.
Maybe, you know, yes, and it still works.
So
they allowed me in the building.
Which was just a joke before this administration.
And now you've got thousands of people who show up to work and their key card doesn't work.
And it's like, you're fired.
It's, it's just not, it's not a joke anymore.
But of course, you are welcomed with open arms.
I know you haven't been back that long, but could you go ahead and give
Greg Bakker, a grade right now if you had the report card for filling in for you for these past couple of weeks.
I would
give him an A.
Without
a doubt.
Oh, he's there listening.
Okay, I'm sorry.
You can tell me the real great later.
That's totally understandable.
From what I understand, Craig and Calvin did a great job and Angela Lange was here along
with
our regulars like you and Todd Alba and also Jim Santel, of course.
So no, I have no, I knew the show would be in good hands.
I knew I could trust Greg.
And that is very kind.
But I also know you and I are at an age now we're like,
Oh, I don't care.
I'm going anyway.
Burn it down.
I
wasn't going to not go.
That's true.
That's exactly it.
And again, I made my first trip to Portugal this year and absolutely just fell in love.
And it's a place you've been to like, like the friends of ours who introduced us to Portugal, you've been you are already a fan.
Yes, this was our third or fourth time in Portugal.
We spent a lot of time on the southern coast.
It's called the Algarve.
Is that area that the southern coast of Portugal?
But we did travel to one of your favorite spots.
We were in Porto.
I believe it's the second largest city in Portugal after Lisbon.
And another one of those great old historic
cobblestone hillies and my husband drives.
We always rent a car.
I have so much respect for him, especially in driving in a city like Porto, where the GPS sends you down roads that you are not quite sure.
Are we really supposed to be here?
Because if I open the car window, I can touch this building.
Oh, I feel like I could touch it without
opening the window.
And then my husband could touch the other
side of the
buildings.
And there's still people walking.
And so, yeah, that always makes me a little anxious.
But my husband does a great,
great job.
Yeah.
The same goes for Nazaré, which is just south of there.
Nazaré is
so great.
Oh, but these streets are, yeah, they were not designed for automobiles.
No.
And yet, yeah, your GPS will send you down there and go, oh, you just had down the street, not a street.
I mean, technically it is, you see the cars.
Yes.
But it is, it is a character builder in terms of driving.
But again, just gorgeous because Portugal's tourism economy is still relatively new.
They weren't a democracy until 50 years ago.
Right.
And so, you know, there are still people discovering
Portugal and we are already just itching to go back there.
So I'm glad you got a chance to go see it again.
Did you get out to the Doro Valley where they have all those terraced vineyards and where all the port wine grapes come from?
We did not.
We did not tour the Doro Valley.
Again, we just kind of knocked around Porto for a day and stayed at a very nice hotel.
But it was about five and a half hours from where we were based.
So we just spent a fair amount of time on the road that day and kind of took our time, which is the nice thing when you're on
holiday, we would look at each other, it's like, well, we're not late for anything.
No, no,
no,
no, we can take this can take as long or
as little time as we like.
And the castles, I mean, every time you turn around, there's another medieval castle that's there, you know, that hasn't been reduced to rubble yet.
Yeah, we love old rocks.
My husband and I are big old architecture fans.
And the people are so lovely.
And the food is fantastic.
Oh, the food.
Oh, my goodness.
Because I mean, you're on the sea.
you know, to begin with.
So so much seafood, but just everything,
everything, everything.
And the the freshness of the vegetables and the tomatoes and just all of those things.
I don't know, it's probably part of the little magical envelope you're in when you travel and you're you're a tourist somewhere, that everything tastes remarkable.
But there is something about their produce, I think that's just pretty special.
There is.
Without a doubt.
So I'm glad you had a great time.
And then you've got some of our regulars.
It's like comfort food for guests.
You've got the comfort
food of Dr. Lirely and Shaly Pittman coming in today on the show.
Yeah, Shaly Pittman is going to join us after the 9 30 news.
We have a new name in the governor's race.
So we're going to kick that around a little bit.
Dr. Kristen Lirely will be here measles, of course, cases, yay, continuing to grow in Wisconsin.
And what does that mean for the rest of us?
Yeah, I mean, how is this still a thing?
I know.
I
know that that gets asked someplace else, but yes.
Right.
And then we're going to lighten things up.
We always do for the last half an hour of the show.
So we're going to do audio sorbet where Greg and Calvin are going to bring me up to speed on things they think I missed.
And then we'll wrap it up.
It should be a good one.
And then we'll wrap it up with this shouldn't be a thing today.
It is the see a later alligator edition.
So stay tuned
for that.
So much.
And then like you said, you'll be talking about Kelda Roy's jumping in the governor's race.
Maggie Dawn later today will have Ryan Stern had another candidate for go.
who's running as well.
And I'm pretty confident that there's gonna be more announcements in the coming days here.
So things are just starting to ramp up.
Jane McNair catch her weekdays from nine to 11 and she's back.
That's all you can see.
And she's here on time.
She's not like, not on vacation time anymore.
No,
back on real
time.
Back to the real time.
All right.
Thank you, Jane.
Have a wonderful day.
All right, and thanks to all of you for being part of things today.
Again, tomorrow on the program will be our typical Tuesday where we talk to Dan Schaefer from the recombobulation area and Cam Stevenson from Courier Newsroom in Washington DC.
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