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Good morning.
It is 606 on a Wednesday morning, September 10 2025.
It's another beautiful morning to have you here up north live from Lake Wissota from wherever you're listening across the civic media radio network or through the app or on social media or by podcast.
We appreciate you starting your day right here.
I got a question for you.
Do you make a casserole with tater tots?
I mean, I've made casseroles before, but I finally crossed a threshold in the use of tater tots.
And it has more to do with my love of my cast iron skillets than anything else, but we'll, we'll get into food talk coming up in just a bit.
But I feel like I've either crossed some kind of a.
a boundary in my kitchen or with my age that I'm now using tater tots in my casserole.
All right and much more important news coming up later in the show we're going to talk live with Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley the most recent candidate to get into the 2026 race for Wisconsin governor.
We'll talk about his decision to run and what he wants voters to know about his experience and his positions as the field grows a little bit larger
and more candidates yet to be expected to run for the governor's post next year with Tony Evers not running for a third term.
In this hour, well, Derek Van Orden doing Derek Van Orden things.
It's already well documented that Derek Van Orden spends a lot of time scrolling and trolling through social media, but even by his standards, it was weird.
that he put a new comment on a photo from a post from two years ago.
Even weirder the photo he commented on shows him on the U.S.
Capitol grounds on January 6th, 2021 and the comment he put was hell yes.
Now Van Orden claims he did not take part in the domestic terrorism that followed on that fateful day but really
Is it that much better to simply be a spectator to a treasonous mob after deciding he would fly there to support a knowingly false claim about the 2020 election?
And don't wait, there's more.
Wait till you hear what he had to say yesterday about the Epstein Files case.
Also, I had one of the biggest billion-dollar surprises in Wisconsin, I think, would be if you were to find out how many taxpayers have no idea
how much public tax money is going to the private school voucher scheme.
It's more than 700 million this year and it is getting close to that 10 digit annual payout.
And we'll tell you how a group is launching a transparency campaign to build public awareness before this program swallows up more of the state budget and skims even more resources away from our neighborhood schools.
We'll have a guest from Clean Wisconsin on how all those massive new data centers are sucking up groundwater wherever they pop up.
That might be good for all these servers and their artificial intelligence, but not so good for the neighbors whose wells have run dry.
So all of that ahead between now and 9 a.m.
and if you can't stick around for all of it.
That's why we got a podcast version of this program as well.
You skip the commercials and everything else.
So head over to Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts and become a subscriber and catch everything that we are working on.
Let's look at the forecast from meteorologist Brittany Merleau who will be here less than an hour from now.
She says better weather is around the corner, cranking up the humidity and the temperatures for the weekend.
So summer will make a return.
And I guess you could say tomorrow roughly is when summer comes back for a spell.
I don't know how long it looks like, you know, a good week or so of summer like weather is coming back.
For today, however, isolated showers to start the day, then more spots of sun later on.
Highs will be in the upper 60s up north to the mid 70s south with a light southeasterly wind.
For tonight, mixed skies and mild, Brittany says, lows tonight around 50 up north, 55 to the south with a light wind out of the east.
Right now it is 59 degrees here in Chippewa Falls and just, just pleasant as all get out.
What do you say?
We check the conditions in Madison had down to Madison studio A2 at Civic Media's global HQ at the top of State Street one block off the Capitol Square where I Parker Olson's camouflaged.
There's a Civic Media banner behind him.
I think that's a Civic Media t-shirt he's wearing.
I can't see him with all the Civic Media logos around.
I'm everywhere.
You can't find me.
Yeah, I can hear you though.
How are you this morning?
Who doesn't love that routine when you wake up and realize, oh no, it's time for the speed round of getting ready.
I.
feel very fortunate, you know, knock on some wood here, I have not had to do that yet for this particular, you know, show, but there have been plenty of times in the past where you just kind of open your eyes, and especially if both spouses forget to set an alarm, and eventually one wakes up and you hear the other one going, Oh, no.
And then you're shooting out of bed and flying around to get ready.
So Tony asks on YouTube, is it because you stayed up late listening to Stacey Abrams and Madison last night for cap times idea fest?
Well, let's see.
I already connected with some folks here on YouTube.
Michael saying Tater Tot Casserole is the best.
I made it last night, he says.
Tony says, I love Tater Tot Casserole.
So there you go.
The story on that is there was a block party here, and then we did not know if we were going to go to it or not in our neighborhood.
And as you know, we ended up going out of town to visit some friends, but I had all the ingredients just in case.
And for this particular gathering,
I thought, well, let's make some kind of a casserole.
Then I realized I've, you know, when I make something, it's usually like, you know, like pasta based for, you know, like, like some elbow macaroni or, you know, noodles or whatever.
And the whole reason I've never used tater tots is because it sounds like too cliche, like that's what every Midwestern year does is they, they put the tater tots and then they put the green beans in there and all that.
I'm just like, it's, I don't want to do that.
It's very stereotypical.
I what I what I found was basically a cheesy, you know, cheeseburger casserole with tater tots.
So there was ground beef and cream of mushroom soup, and then just the right combination of spices, and then some sharp cheddar cheese that to me made all the difference.
And, and then throw the tater tots on top, throw it all in a big old cast iron skillet, and put that thing in the oven.
Oh, man, I when you think tater tot casserole, what do you think you think bland, right?
Yeah, I suppose.
Yeah.
This, I mean, I'm not saying this was spicy.
I'm just saying it was the recipe I found online.
Sharp cheddar really got you.
The sharp cheddar really does it know that and the other the other spices.
Speaking of the skillet, Tony asks, did Pat make shepherd's pie last weekend?
No, I did not.
I know I said I was going to.
And like I said, plans changed, but there there will be before
too long.
Roger on Facebook writes from Steven's point, a tater tot casserole isn't a tater tot casserole until it includes the second ingredient, cream of mushroom soup.
Yes, that's very true.
So you passed.
So yeah, I had that I just went with the, you know, the ground beef and again, the extra sharp cheddar, the secret ingredient.
Very important.
I love that.
This is
This is also new to to Parker.
Like, oh, God, he's talking about cream of mushroom soup and tater tots.
I know there are other things I could be talking about in this is true.
I would rather
Yeah.
Well, we'll get to Derek van Orden and what all he had to say recently coming up before long.
But I suppose we better get back to the Brewers game from yesterday.
But let me take you all the way back to May 19th.
Oh, when Michael Hellman.
was just a sad little rookie who'd been put on waivers by Pittsburgh and picked up by the Texas Rangers.
Michael Hellman has found his groove in Arlington and he has made life miserable this week for the Milwaukee Brewers.
On Monday, he hit his first ever grand slam and had five RBIs total.
And then last night, Hellman hit a two-run homer and made a leaping backhanded catch over the fence and left center to Rob Breisterang as the Rangers beat the Brewers again.
This time the score was five to four and the Cubs also won.
So the Brewers magic number to clinch a playoff spot remains at two to clinch the division 11 if I'm not mistaken.
So we move on from here.
We wrap up the series with a day game today.
It'll be Freddy Peralta going for his league leading 17th win.
If you were to get it today in game three of the series, the pregame will begin at one o'clock.
on several civic media stations and then day off tomorrow and it's back home for a weekend series with the St.
Louis Cardinals.
So it would be nice to have the Brewers get back to their winning ways, especially this afternoon, but certainly in time for a division series against the Cardinals.
It's almost like, you know, the reverse method, like they're, they're like, here are the outfielders hit the ball to the target.
And they, and I don't know if.
Or how they would even track this.
But if there were a stat for hardest hit balls that were, that were caught directly by the outfielder that, you know, had they landed just a few feet, either side would have gone to the fence.
Uh, the Brewers got to be way up there on that.
Yeah.
Well, it happens.
All right.
Let's move over to football here, where I just heard this from Mike Clemens and had to confirm it myself.
I had to see it to believe it Christian Watson signing a one year deal, an extension for his contract worth $13 million through 2026.
He is still recovering from an ACL injury.
And then I know he had some other injury before that.
So apparently he's supposed to be back later in the season, or not.
You know, we'll see.
The thing is, again, he is clearly a talented receiver, very talented.
But I mean, he and Garrett Mitchell for the Brewers.
I mean, you
And it's just very
Look, it's frustrating for the fans.
It's got to be massively frustrating for them.
Although for them, they still get these million dollar paychecks.
So maybe it is a little bit more frustrating for us.
True.
Nobody's giving us a million dollars for our frustration.
But the Packers are on a short week.
They're a little banged up.
This could make things difficult tomorrow.
Yes, I said tomorrow.
The Packers kick off week two of the football season, hosting the Washington Commander's coverage will begin tomorrow at 5pm.
on WRCO in Richland Center, WCQM in Park Falls, WRJN in Racine, WAUH in Wattoma.
And of course, the Wisconsin Badgers are playing at Alabama this Saturday.
Coverage begins at nine o'clock Saturday morning on stations in Richland Center, Amory, Wisconsin Rapids, and Ripon.
All right, well, when we come back, we will talk about Derek Van Orden and the way he just casually dismissed one of the latest things we've learned about the Epstein Files case.
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You want an example of that denial?
Give a listen to what Congressman Derek Van Orden said.
This is a clip from Fox News that somebody grabbed off of Twitter and put the clip up.
And he was asked about the newly released birthday card that was made for Jeffrey Epstein many years ago, including a note, a signed note by Donald Trump.
with essentially a crude drawing of a woman on it and Derrick Van Orden, who is apparently a handwriting expert, had this to say about it.
And that's a leftist talking about it's horrible.
It's a fallacy?
And it's a leftist talking point.
No, it's evidence is what that is.
He's babbling.
And you could see it in the clip.
He's babbling.
He's struggling.
Everybody else who's working so hard to defend Donald Trump is doing this.
And I mean, to call this thing a fake,
Keep in mind this particular birthday card this note has been seen for years and years and years long before Donald Trump got into politics.
It was out there So for you to believe it was fake would be that would be a grand conspiracy to go back 20 years and say let's create this fake note because 20 years later this guy's gonna get elected president and then we're gonna nail him with this I mean
I don't like using the S word, but this isn't ridiculous.
It's stupid.
It's stupid to believe and to defend that.
Don't knee jerk defend something like this.
You should be asking questions and you should be saying those questions deserve answers.
But Derek Van Orden, like so many other people, Derek is convinced that Donald Trump has control over all just the right people.
Why?
Well, why wouldn't he believe that?
Look how long Trump has lasted, even after being convicted on 34 felonies.
The way somebody put it in Twitter world here, when you're in a cult, nothing matters more than protecting the leader.
Why?
Because your entire sense of self-worth and your entire worldview are predicated on the leader's success.
If he goes down, you have nothing left, and that's what makes them so dangerous.
Oh, but wait, there's more.
Derek Van Orden loves his scrolling and trolling on social media.
So it was very interesting that he commented on a post, but not some recent post.
Somehow or another, he'd gone back two years at the Democratic Party of Wisconsin site and found a post from July 28th of 2023 with a photo of Derek Van Orden on the US Capitol grounds on January 6th, 2021.
The post from July of 2023 is in the wake of Derek Van Orden harassing those teenage pages at the U.S.
Capitol.
Remember late at night as they were in the Capitol rotunda and the state Democratic Party post put up the photo of Derek Van Orden from January 6th saying let's not let anyone forget that Derek Van Orden crossed police lines taking selfies as a violent mob attacked the U.S.
Capitol.
All right so again that post was from July of 2023 but on Monday evening at 8 50 p.m Derek Van Orden put a comment under that and the comment read hell yes thank you for pointing out that I stand for voter integrity and respect our institutions to which the Democratic Party of Wisconsin quickly responded to his post with this saying
Did you really spend your Monday night scrolling back through over two years of Facebook posts to brag about a violent attack on law enforcement and an attempt to overturn the 2020 election?
Because that's exactly what it looks like, that this is somebody who will constantly search for himself on social media.
the kind of guy who googles himself and will go to every platform to see who's writing what about him and then respond to it.
And he does that.
He's in the comment sections everywhere, taking people down a notch for daring to criticize their member of Congress, who we expect to be better behaved, but when it starts by being on the Capitol grounds as a treasonous mob is around you, well, how could we set our sights much lower?
Hey, where else can you find Guns N' Roses and Chuck Berry?
Well, that'd be today's history lesson.
That's coming up live from the lake after the Midwest Farm Report here on the Civic Media Radio Network.
I'm Pat Crichtlump.
OK, ready?
Play your air drums.
Yeah, we know that one.
That Nirvana smells like Teen Spirit released as a single this day in 1991.
And I think I did this to pour Greg last year as well, because everybody loves the way those drums come in so much.
Do you mind stopping and starting that one again?
Really?
Yeah, can you do that?
Wow, okay, you know you know people love the air drums on this.
I do.
So that from Nirvana was released as a single this day in 1991, kicking off today's history lesson.
We have an anniversary to celebrate out of Green Bay.
Fox 11 WL UK began broadcasting this day in 1954.
So happy 71st birthday to the folks at Fox 11.
At least I think they're still called Fox 11.
I haven't been there for a while.
So
It's always a tough one to go with whether with that one or guns and roses.
but they're on the calendar because they opened up as the opening act for Aerosmith this week in 1988 and they hit number one with this.
I didn't want to step on anybody doing air guitar today.
It's just basically it's an air band day.
It's a very
Uh, I.
I will say we did try it once.
We were at a house party or something and somebody had it.
And so everybody had to give it a try.
So, you know, nothing like making a fool of yourself in front of all of your friends.
But yeah, we all took a turn.
So it's okay.
This week in 1991, the Senate Judiciary Committee began hearings on Clarence Thomas's nomination to the US Supreme Court.
Bad judgment 34 years ago this week.
Let's see on this day in 1955, a Chuck Berry
reached number five on the charts with his very first hit.
So why did Maybelline reach its peak at number five on the charts?
Well, let's see, who had the first, who had the four spots ahead of him?
Pat Boone, again.
Mitch Miller, the Maguire sisters, and Tennessee Ernie Ford, who again I remind people played at my high school prom.
What?
I've told you that story.
Tennessee Ernie Ford and Florence Henderson were the entertainment at our high school prom.
They weren't really at our prom.
Our prom was at the old Carleton Celebrity Dinner Theater.
And we were in one of the other rooms, but you had to come in.
You had to come into the dinner theater to get your dinner and sit there and eat your dinner watching Florence Henderson and Tennessee Ernie Ford sing old songs.
And then you go back down the hall and we had some kind of a punk band or something for our actual prom.
OK.
That makes a lot more sense.
It makes much more sense now.
Yes.
Happy birthday to Jose Feliciano.
You know him for the Christmas classic Felice Navidad, but he had plenty of other hits in his years.
He turns 80 years old today.
This is just another great intro.
Just a really nice
hit from Jose Feliciano who turns 80 years old today Aerosmith's lead guitarist Joe Perry today is his 75th birthday.
I wonder if he can still play
you know, the way that he has all these years.
You know, like I said, I was watching the band Chicago.
Now, they were all playing their horns and keyboards as well as they ever did.
So I haven't heard Joe Perry lately, so I can say that with any certainty.
Actor Colin Firth is 65 years old today.
All right, let's get to 1966.
I got the number one album and the number one single from this day, 49 years ago, 59 years ago, excuse me.
The number one album was Revolver from The Beatles.
Another iconic intro.
I mean, if you're going to highlight Revolver, where do you go?
You got Illinois Rigby, you've got Taxman, you've got Here, There and Everywhere, you've got Good Day Sunshine.
You've got got to get you into my life.
It's just definitely my favorite Beatles album.
Yeah,
although
intro.
I actually might have one.
I've been saving this for a while.
There is a band based out of Eau Claire called the Jaggernauts.
I knew of them, but not much, and I thought the band had broken up.
It turns out that years and years ago,
On one of their albums is a song and the title of the song is simply quite long.
Yeah And it's got a it's a great intro the lyrics are a little dark as are many things from the band and I I've never Really found out why they gave it that name Was it was it a were they knocking me for some reason because I think I was still doing TV at the time or or what?
And one of these days, I'm going to ask for their permission to use that for the show intro.
Really?
So they do still get back together.
So let's, if they come down to Madison, somebody ask them.
If the song would work or not.
Hey, Melissa K is here from WFHR, WIRI and beautiful Wisconsin Rapids looking wonderful in a colorful shirt and a nice little, what kind of cap do we call those?
Page Boy?
I don't know.
Page Boy, engineers, cap, whatever.
Very nice.
How are you today?
That's for sure.
All right back to the history lesson here on this day in 1953 Swanson sold its first TV dinner
a turkey meal with cornbread, dressing peas and sweet potatoes.
Now, there are a lot of frozen dinners out there nowadays.
I mean, there's no shortage of things, but the original TV dinner in the in the foil packaging that had to have come and gone by the time.
I mean, have either one of you had like an old school TV dinner?
I've never looked into what exactly is it that makes a piece of meat.
That's where they made it.
Yeah, I guessed.
Anyway, so the TV dinners were kind of a big deal for the baby boomers as they were all watching their TV and wanted to eat in front of the TV.
So again, that dates back to 1953.
Yeah,
Yes, Alex Trebek hosted the first episode of Jeopardy as a syndicated game show on this day in 1984 and I knew Alex Trebek at that point had been a game show host on multiple different game shows, but within years there were basically only two game shows left Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy
And he had one of them there.
And let's see, we've got another TV debut, this one, a show that debuted on NBC this day in 1990, 35 years ago today.
Now this is a story all about how my life got flipped, turned upside down, and I'd like to take a minute, just sit right there.
I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air.
You too.
Network.
Coming up later today on the Civic Media Radio Network, Matt Nair on air follows this program, 9 to 11 weekdays.
Greg Bacch is flying solo this week while Jane's off.
Coming up at 9.35, Greg will be talking to Andrew Watkins, New York Times best-selling author discussing Christian nationalism in the United States.
And then after 10 o'clock, economics professor Rick Reed will talk about the way that President Trump is putting pressure on the Federal Reserve to lower interest rates.
for whatever reason, Todd Alba, who shall is on from two to four today, keeps insisting on having me on on Wednesday afternoons.
And so you can catch me just after two o'clock along with Trig Vilsen from the Lincoln Project on the Todd Alba show coming up this afternoon across the Civic Media radio network.
All right, a few more notes from today's history lesson.
And you know, they're they're not all
happy, fun, music-based or whatever entertainment-based, they're occasional serious notes to put in there.
And so the reason I'm sharing one about something called the Latimer Massacre, I'm sorry, let me try that again.
The Latimer Massacre of 1897 is to show the ways that we are still trying to evolve in this country and
live true to our ideals.
But on this day in 1897, in Latimer, Pennsylvania, a sheriff's posse killed 19 unarmed, striking immigrant minors.
It was an outrage that single handedly propelled the United Mine Workers Union in membership and in power, eventually leading to higher wages and safer conditions.
But sadly, it
just far too often takes tragedies like this to convince corporations to do better by their workers.
So again, that massacre of striking immigrant minors in Pennsylvania took place this day in 1897.
Already a couple of sports notes for you now and I'm going to admit Parker that I did not know this until yesterday if you just told me the origin of the Rams I would have said well, they were the Los Angeles Rams and then they were the st.
Louis Rams for a while and now they're the Los Angeles Rams again, right?
and They they actually started someplace else did not know that but it was on this day in 1937 that the Cleveland Rams
played their first game as an NFL team.
The Rams played in Cleveland from 1936 to 1937 to 1945.
Now in 1945, the Cleveland Rams won the NFL Championship and then moved to Los Angeles, becoming the first of only two professional football teams to play the following season in another city.
Yeah, exactly.
And for folks who are saying, wait, there's another football champion team that left the city.
Yeah, this was in the old AFL, which is now the AFC conference in the NFL.
But at the time in 1962, the Dallas Texans, the 1962 version had won the AFL championship, but they really couldn't compete with the NFL's.
Dallas Cowboys.
And so the Dallas Texans relocated to Kansas City and rebranded themselves as the Kansas City Chiefs and have been there for good.
So there's your sports trivia for the day.
For folks who don't know why Dion Sanders is such a name, how do you get to be such a thing?
Is it just because he's a loudmouth and brash and everything else?
The fact of the matter is he got to where he was because he was a hell of an athlete.
And it was on this day in 1989 as a two-way player.
Five days after hitting a home run for the Yankees, he returned a punt 68 yards for a touchdown.
So, home run and a touchdown in the same week for Dion Sanders.
Oh, that's such a funny stat.
The guy was good.
Yeah, I really wish
Let's see on this day in 2019, Donald Trump fired his national security advisor, John Bolton.
There's some foreshadowing for you.
And then finally, one year ago today, where the press was the presidential debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, it became
famous for various phrases of Trump's, for example, here he is acknowledging that he still has no plan to replace the Affordable Care Act.
I have concepts of a plan.
I'm not president right now.
But if we come up with something, I would only change it if we come up with something that's better and less expensive.
And there are concepts and options we have to do that.
And you'll be hearing about it in the not too distant future.
In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats, they're eating
They're eating the pits of the people that live there.
And this is what's happening in our country.
I mean, probably camera operators and others that could not believe that this was being said by a former president and that he might actually have a chance to become president again.
And then he did, still with concepts of a plan.
So we got that going for us all all told by the way fact checkers found more than 30 different lies or misstatements from Donald Trump in that debate on the national gate a day calendar for today.
Today is national TV dinner day.
Of course, we mentioned what Swanson's did in 1953.
So why not celebrate and have some dinner in front of the TV today?
Oh wait, we pretty much all do now all the time.
Don't we?
And this is also anti junk light day.
And if you've ever flown at night, you understand what we're talking about here, where there's a, there's a lot of junk light that keeps people from seeing the stars, from enjoying the night sky.
And there's really been a movement for years to get people to make sure their outdoor lighting at night is more directional and, you know, allow us to enjoy what the celestial masterpieces that we have up above us.
Coming up at 707 meteorologist Brittany Merleau is going to talk about the return of summer weather.
We'll talk about voucher transparency in our next hour.
And at 852 Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley, candidate for governor.
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