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Tips for Reporters: Tell the Whole Story (Hour 1)
Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Tue Sep 9, 2025
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Now, for my Lake Minnesota studio, here is the founding editor of Up North News, Pat Craiglow.
Good morning.
It is a Tuesday morning, September 9, 2025.
It's another beautiful morning to have you up here up north live from Lake Wissota from wherever you're spending your mornings listening across the civic media radio network and all the other ways that could bring you right here to beautiful Chippewauffles.
We are very happy that you are starting your day right here.
I got a question for you.
It's one of those semi serious news questions, but every so often I feel the need to ask it.
Is it possible to be both an evil genius, doing diabolical well planned things, and be stupid as well?
If you've been paying attention for the past seven, eight months, you already know the answer to that you've been paying attention for the past seven, eight months.
You already know the answer to that, but I have these two different examples of how the presidency, based in large part on racism, has both evil genius tendencies and things that are akin to stepping on a rake.
So I will describe that for you coming up in just a bit.
Also coming up, I will once again beg, cajole, insist that local media
stop engaging in stenography when it comes to Congressman Derek Van Orden, who once again was given coverage that was unencumbered by fact checks or clarifications or context.
We will review an event the other night, not a town hall, we're not exactly sure what it was, to celebrate, quote unquote, a new tax policy regarding tips and overtime.
It is not nearly as generous or encompassing as you would think to see how it's being covered by other outlets.
We'll be catching up with our friend, Jeff Renneke.
He's a friend of the Apostle Islands.
That's actually the name of the group, Friends of the Apostle Islands.
And we'll be talking about the Trump administration's willful neglect of our national parks, how it's being seen in everything from overworked staff and fewer tours to piled up trash.
and lost revenue that could be keeping our parks in a healthy condition.
We will visit with dairy farmer Hans Breitenmoser along with Sheila Everhart from the Wisconsin Agricultural Tourism Association.
You need an updated bucket list.
You're going on a road trip where you see a nice weekend's coming this weekend is going to be nice Now we traveled last weekend.
We had a really nice road trip This weekend for us is going to be you know based on on house stuff But maybe this coming weekend is going to be the weekend that you guys can just get away and be whimsical in your planning well Sheila Everhart will give you some ideas on some rural Wisconsin sites to add to your road trip bucket list for fall in Wisconsin and Then we have that new Tuesday tag team
covering your capitals in both Madison and Washington DC.
We'll have Cam Stevenson live from the nation's capital.
We'll talk about the evil genius stepping on a rake process when it comes with dealing with Hispanic Americans and undocumented immigrants.
And also at the same time deciding it was a good idea to raid a South Korean car factory and battery plant under construction.
Boy, is that about to backfire.
And then Dan Schaefer of the Recombobulation Area will preview the upcoming session of the Wisconsin Assembly.
It's time to look at those bills beyond the state budget in all the ways that they could change life in Wisconsin for you.
So Dan will talk all about that.
And then Tuesday brings both the Dan's, Dan Schaefer and Dan Hagen from NewsWatch 12 in Rhinelander, WJFWTV, will tell us what kind of stories he's working on in the Northwoods.
And of course, along the way,
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From meteorologist Brittany Merleau, the state forecast says summer like weather is around the corner.
There will be higher heat, there will be more mugginess, and there will be dry days to close out the week, but first we got to get through the next 36 hours or so.
For today, Brittany says rounds of rain and thunder to the north cloudy to the south.
Highs will be in the mid 60s up north mid 70s south.
with a southwest wind at 10 to 20 miles an hour cloudy with spotty showers tonight, lowest tonight in the mid 50s and a south wind at 5 to 10.
You can definitely tell the the warm front worked its way through the state already and the aftereffects of it are still up north.
as the front moved its way from south to north because the high temperatures around the state right now are all in the northwestern corner of the state.
It is 64 degrees in the Chippewa Valley here right now and in Menominee.
It's also 64 in Burnett and then the colder spots like 45 way down in Burlington in the southeast corner of the state but again much more
Summer like temperatures will be around coming back one more time Parker Olson produces this fine program from Madison studio A2 at the top of State Street one block away from the state Capitol and joins us now.
I believe through the magic of radio.
Mr. Olson, how are you?
It's gotta get from me to you through the interwebs and then out to the public.
Through the through the magic of radio and we're really we're very thankful for everybody that's doing that was was yesterday as glorious There as it was here with that south wind at like 20 miles an hour and it was you know the trees were swaying It was just a beautiful breeze.
Yeah It could not have been a nicer example of a late summer day where you don't have the 90 degree temperatures
But it's still very pleasant.
Alicia puts on YouTube Mother Nature decided to turn the temperatures upside down.
Yes, at least temporarily here.
And, you know, like Alicia, if you'd like to, you know, get in on all the fun that we're having here, you definitely can head over to Up North News on Facebook or YouTube or Civic Media on Facebook or YouTube and jump in the comment section.
Tell us what you're up to today, where you're listening from.
what you're doing with your days.
And also, we'll see those, but we'll also see if you use the Civic Media app and use the text function on there, for example, or you can leave us a voice note as well.
There's that voice note feature under all the different Civic Media stations, and we'll catch those.
We'll listen to them, maybe pop those up on air.
And of course, one of these days, we're gonna start taking phone calls again, but right now, you know,
We're close.
Parker is still, we're still working on that.
And I say that half tongue-in-cheek because, again, it's not a lot of folks racing to call a radio station at 6.14 in the morning.
This is true.
So we have found much more enthusiasm for people that want to, they're still in their pajamas, they've got their mug of coffee, and it's just easier to tap out something on your phone or on your computer keyboard.
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There's also our Sunday morning politics newsletter.
And in it, there's always a question of the week.
And I ask, what caused Donald Trump's flip-flop on the Epstein files?
Did he realize that he maybe thought he wasn't going to get caught doing some bad things and realizes he did get caught doing bad things?
Or is it a case of he actually isn't listed in the files doing bad things, but he's protecting other people who are listed there?
Or is it that he's blackmailing other people who are listed in there?
And that's why he hasn't released them yet.
Or the fourth option, of course, is he's right.
It's all a hoax.
And all these women are just making it up.
They're all part of a grand conspiracy.
Sure, maybe that's one of your answers.
Right now, there's been a whole lot of the others.
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Boy Parker was I excited watching the first four innings of the Brewers game last night in Texas.
It was a, it was also a perfect night for baseball in Arlington, Texas.
The roof was open on their new and gorgeous stadium down there.
And Jose Quintana put down the, in the first inning, put them down in order, one, two, three, second inning, four, five, six, third inning.
seven, eight, nine, fourth inning, one, two, three again.
I mean, perfect through four innings.
This was looking real good, real good.
And the wheels came off the bus in the fifth inning where he managed to load the bases and then Quintana gave up a grand slam to Michael Hellman, his first ever majorly grand slam.
He drove in all of the Texas runs with the grand slam and later on a double as the Rangers beat the Brewers five, nothing last night.
The Brewers were held scoreless for only the 11th time this season.
I don't know the whole list of teams and how many times they've been shut out, but I don't think it's been a lot for the Brewers.
So, so I'm saying only the 11th time this season.
You know, these, this is the same team that has had far more four or more run innings than any other team in baseball.
They have these big innings all the time where they're busting out the whooping sticks And then sometimes the sticks appear to have been put into the fire pit and somebody put gasoline on them So we'll see if we can pick it up again with game two of the series That's this evening in texas coverage begins at 6 30 on several civic media stations by the way The magic number cubs lost so the magic number to clinch the national league central division is 11 To clinch and get into the playoffs the magic number is just two
And for the best record, the number one seed, the magic number is only 12.
So there's, you know, there's some reason to be hopeful here.
Okay.
Let's just leave it at that.
So be on the lookout for that.
And then of course, a reminder, the Packers on a short week, they've got the Thursday night game this time.
I didn't hear all the details from Mike Clemens just now, but he was talking about injuries.
And this is always the
The roughest part of those Thursday night games some would say the roughest part I would say the dumbest part because I still think Thursday night games are dumb But I didn't get they didn't ask for my vote So it is what it is and the pregame for Thursday's game against the Washington Commanders will begin at 5 p.m.
On Thursday
on WRCO and Richland Center, WCQM and Park Falls, WR, Jan and Racine, and WAUH in Wattoma.
And find those stations and be a listener because come Thursday that game is on Amazon Prime and there's quite a chance that you may not be able to hear that.
Watch it, I should say, so you can hear it on Civic Media.
From the heart of America's Up North, live from Lake Wissota, thanks for making this the place to spend part of your mornings.
I'm Pat Rightlow and this is the Civic Media Radio Network.
Tomorrow in our homeroom segment, helping taxpayers understand just how much the private school voucher scheme is taking out of our wallets and out of our hometown schools.
Heather Dubois-Bornan will talk about a new campaign aimed at that taxpayer transparency that is coming up.
I should have mentioned in sports as well, I didn't see it just heard about it this morning, but the the bears just completely bared last night, apparently ahead handily.
but then the Vikings and JJ McCarthy managed to come all the way back and rallied to win over the Bears late in the game, 27-24.
Couldn't happen to a better bunch of folks.
David Crawley, the Milwaukee County Executive, early this morning, made official.
He is a candidate for governor, so we will be talking about that later in the morning as well.
Now today's history lesson is only about 12 minutes away or so.
So let me tease you for today's history lesson with a little musical trivia.
One of the songs we're going to include is from 1978.
The song is Boogie Oogie Oogie from A Taste of Honey.
That's the group.
My question is, who's doing this iconic bass line?
Who's that on the base?
We'll answer that question and more in today's history lesson.
Coming up in just a little bit on these mornings with Pat Krightlow, powered by Up North News on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Well, it appears that Congressman Derek Van Orden, who has not hosted a town hall in recent memory, did host some kind of an event in, where was it?
Was it Galesville?
It was a no tax on tips event at a bar.
And there was a story on it by a lacrosse TV station, WKBT.
And to read the story, you would think that this was just an entirely positive event and that nobody had any tough questions for the Congressman, not in the audience and not in the media as well.
It was all about emphasizing as the WKBT story says,
emphasizing the potential financial benefits for service industry workers.
The story says Wisconsin's third district representative used the Galesville venue to showcase how the tax policy would directly impact food service employees who rely on gratuities as a significant portion of their income.
Van Orden said, we're talking about $25,000 a year worth of tax breaks on tips and that's the right thing to do, end quote.
And the story concludes,
Van Orden highlighted the savings and tax cuts that Republicans and President Trump secured for Americans during the previous administration.
The Congressman framed the no tax on tips proposal as part of a broader Republican economic agenda aimed at reducing the tax burden on working Americans.
And that's the end of the story, kids.
That's the end of the quote-unquote news coverage.
Pardon me for a moment while I let out a deep sigh.
I don't know who covered this.
I don't know who wrote this.
I am not here to single them out other than to say it is a story that is indeed quite representative of how Derek Van Orden has been covered by local news outlets that are, shall we say, bereft of experienced journalists.
I mean, was this a town hall?
Was this a fundraiser?
Was this a drop-in?
He has been hiding from his constituents for months.
Covering him should kind of be a bigger deal, assuming there were people there who were not simply fawning over him and could ask some tough questions about the real world impact of what it is he voted for.
So I am again asking, maybe not begging, but pretty close to demanding that local reporters in and around the third congressional district stop being stenographers, ask well-prepared questions,
Don't accept answers that are evasive or rude as Van Orden just want to do.
Or don't worry about asking questions to a guy who's going to be evasive and rude, but at least make sure that your story includes the full story about the claims he's making.
For example, the WKBT story could simply go on to say the following.
What Congressman Van Orden did not mention at his party is that a review of the bill he supported shows that of the only 3% of American workers who get tips, this change only affects about one third of them.
Many tipped workers have such a low income that a deduction from that tipped income would do almost nothing for them.
And they'd still have to pay payroll taxes, social security and otherwise, state income taxes, and so on.
And as for the tax break on overtime, which is typically paid at time and a half, the tax break is only eliminated on the half.
And the regular pay level for those working overtime still pays at the same tax rate as before.
That's it.
That's all that story would have needed to be more complete and frankly, more fair to the viewer.
What I just said there, that part that I added, there is nothing in there that is partisan.
There is nothing in there that is even remotely political.
What it is, is journalism.
Don't cover the event.
Cover the story.
The story is a congressman coming out of hiding saying a bill does one thing, but he's not telling you the whole thing.
And when your congressman is not being on the level with you,
That's where journalism becomes the public service.
We talk about elected officials being public servants.
They really, so many of them don't think of themselves that way anymore.
And too many journalists think of themselves as just part of an ownership group, another cog in the business of media.
No, you're engaged in a public service as much, if not more so, than the elected officials that you're covering.
So perform that public service and tell the full story.
If the politician won't answer your questions or if the politician is going to be rude, then simply note that in the story.
But then get all the details out there for your viewer, for your listener, for your reader.
That really is the least you can do if you're going to have a role in media covering our elected officials in this day and age.
All right, coming up, we will have today's history lesson, including who is on that iconic baseline from Boogie Yogi Yogi.
In the meantime, here comes the Midwest Farm Report.
Thanks for spending some time here as part of your mornings, powered by Up North News.
I'm Pat Critello on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Welcome back to today's history lesson for this September 9th, 9,925.
And we begin with the premiere of the TV series, Welcome Back, Cotter, which debuted on ABC this date 50 years ago.
It still is going to hit me every time I do something from 1975 and go, wait, it's been 50 years?
Yeah.
It is the TV show about one of the former sweat hogs as the kids all called themselves at this high school.
in, I want to say, was it Brooklyn or the Bronx in New York City?
I don't know.
He later becomes a teacher and he comes back and now he has to be the teacher to the same rambunctious type of students that he once was himself.
The theme song there that was written by John Sebastian of the Love and Spoonfool performed by him as well and it would be the number one song on the charts later next year as Welcome Back Cotter caught on and became a highly rated ABC show.
Another media story the Radio Corporation of America later known as RCA on this day in 1926 launched its new radio network the National Broadcasting Company later known as NBC So the NBC radio network began this day in 1926 All right, let's see we've got what else in today's history lesson here Get a scroll down.
Oh, we've got a lot of birthdays today
We've got Dave Stewart is 73 from the Eurythmics along with Annie Lennox.
Hugh Grant is 65 years old today and today marks the birth 84 years ago of Otis Redding who died way too soon a plane crash in Madison at the age of 26 but Otis Redding was born this day in 1941.
everybody goes, oh, it's Otis Redding.
You're going to play sitting on the dock of the bay, right?
No, no, we're not because there's some songs when there's only like one version that's good and the rest are like pale comparisons.
But respect, of course, Aretha Franklin, you know, but Otis Redding as well.
Really nice version of that one that got more than a share of airplay and he would have done much more with it had he not passed away so soon at the age of 26.
Adam Sandler is 59 years old today.
Eric Stone Street of Modern Family is 54.
The Boublé, Michael Boublé is 50 years old today.
John Kuhn, Kuhn is 44.
I like that he's really embraced the broadcast thing now.
He's on the games.
He's in the booth.
Now he's doing TV commercials.
Oh, I see.
I don't think I've seen
I forget what it's for now, but I want to say it's for...
Potawatomi this for the sports book.
OK, thank you.
So, you know, good for him.
It's sometimes these athletes, they leave, you know, they retire.
You never hear from him again.
Like, what happened to so and so?
And then you got like Donald driver.
I mean, honestly, you you expect to get in your car one day and he's in the back seat.
I brought you some sub sandwiches and I'm writing a ticket for not wearing your seatbelt.
It's everywhere.
Yeah, I do like
Where's the song from Michael Buble?
To which I say, you're welcome.
Let's move on to Elvis Presley.
On this day in 1956, Elvis made the first of three contracted appearances on the Ed Sullivan show.
Here's the clip of him performing Don't Be
Cruel.
I'm
Wow.
I could be wrong.
I mean, your typical number one show used to get like maybe 20 million viewers.
Sure.
And now it struggles to get that.
But again, you only had two or three channels at the time.
So you were going to watch Elvis whether you wanted to or not.
And most people most decidedly did.
If
you were to listen just to the history lesson and we just talked about Otis Redding dying too soon in that plane crash in Lake Manona and then Jim Croci we lost him way too soon in an airplane crash and we talked about Patsy Klein I believe just yesterday.
You'd think maybe the advice for musicians is not to get in airplanes, but remember that a lot of these were in the 50s and 60s.
It's not that planes don't crash anymore, but it was definitely a different era back then.
And Jim Croci was approaching his peak with hits off that album.
You don't mess around with Jim from this week in 1972.
On this day in 1976, the answer to the question, you know, when did we decide to call ourselves the United States of America?
Of all the things you could have picked for a country.
I know they talked about like New Columbia and, you know, other other names that were bandied about.
But it was on this day in 1776, the Continental Congress officially named its Union of States as the United States.
Which seems pretty basic like what are we
gonna call
Wait a minute.
I got no idea
See, that would have worked out as well.
On this day in 1791, so what, 15 years later or so, the capital city of the United States, the new capital city, would be named Washington, D.C., named after President George Washington.
So there are those who say it will be renamed Trump, D.C., within the next year or two.
Oh, no.
No, no, no.
No, no some some something all right.
Let's get to that little bit of trivia there a taste of honey and boogie-oogie-oogie That was the number one song this weekend 1978.
Let's give a listen again to the start of it Now a taste of honey the lead singer her name was Janice Marie Johnson They had a drummer a keyboardist that lead guitar player
But what I didn't know till now was the person putting down this bass.
Oh, I hit it too soon.
I thought it was the short radio edit.
But forget, we'll get this in post production.
We'll be back.
Yeah, we'll be back.
Yeah, we had a drummer, a keyboard, a league guitar.
But what I didn't know till now was the person pulling down this bass line.
Nailed it.
Had a
boy.
the singer and is also a member of the Native American Music Association Hall of Fame.
Number one song this week in 1978.
On this day in 1999, a new park opened in Winslow, Arizona.
And if I say Winslow, Arizona, if you're a really good fan of the Eagles, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
The park is called Standing on the Corner Park or that Eagle Song Take It Easy and it goes like this.
There
And I know you're thinking, well, why didn't you bring that up yesterday?
And you know why?
Because was it last year?
I want to say last year.
Maybe it was two years ago when Dr. Kristin Lierly was there and sent us a photograph of her at Standing on the Corner Park in Winslow, Arizona, featuring a statue of a man with a guitar standing on the corner.
And the park quickly became a popular photo op.
for folks passing through Winslow, Arizona.
Dr. Lierly included, of course.
On this day in 2014, hey, who doesn't like a free gift?
Well, apparently about 500 million of us iTunes users at the time who created an uproar when U2's new album, Songs of Innocence, showed up in our personal libraries without costing anything.
but also without anyone's permission to put their album in our personal music library.
In other words, it was Digital Zucchini.
You can't just come into our music collection front porch and leave us stuff that we didn't ask for.
I
It wasn't a dig at Luke, Mathers necessarily.
But yeah, it was Digital Zucchini is the way that I choose to look at it.
And so.
And you you would try to like delete it and like it may or may not work You might it might still actually be there in my phone for all I know But it's a lot different now now There's just stuff that comes up random because the streaming services, you know, they're trying to use AI and guess what you want to hear next Sometimes it works, you know, sometimes sometimes not so much
There you go Yeah, there's on the text line.
Yeah, that was kind of a dig but I agree.
I hated that album and That's that was the the problem people did listen to the album ago You know not not everything that you do is great.
I mean look at the Beatles I point you to Michelle
Listen to that song and tell me the Beatles had a hundred percent record.
They did not every so often one of them is gonna miss this week in 2006 We got this lead single from Justin Timberlake's second solo album I know I'm waiting for it to do something as well
There we go.
Thank you, Justin.
So anyway, Sexy Back was the lead single from the album Future Sex Love Song Love Sounds and it hit number one this week in 2006 and would stay there for seven weeks.
Two years later in 2008, music news would be made by Donnie and Marie of All People.
Donnie and Marie Osmond this week in 2008
kicked off what was supposed to be a six week residency at the Flamingo Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas.
But the show was so popular, instead of six weeks, the show ran for 11 years.
Finally coming to an end in 2019 when Marie wanted to, you know, step down.
Donnie Osmond still performing quite regularly.
Sure.
Yeah.
Let's see.
Today on the International Day calendar, it is International Box Wine Day.
Now, again, I'm not much of a wine drinker.
Thought when box wine came out I thought people would welcome that like you know better packaging and you know You could it would stay fresh longer without the cork thing.
Oh, no No box wine was quickly relegated to you know Oh that that thing that people look down on but it's still around plenty of people still drink their box wine This is internet or the national teddy bear day and international Sudoku day and I can I can say in all honesty I have never played Sudoku never
Never
It is 61 degrees right now, Amory 63 out in Oshkosh.
It's 54 and at Racy Delaney's Coffee Lounge on Water Street in Eau Claire.
It is 64 degrees and I bring up Eau Claire because I just received the list of events that will be happening for UW Eau Claire's 100th homecoming.
So the 100th homecoming for blue golds at UW Eau Claire will take place the weekend of October 4th And I don't know mr. Olson if down there in white water.
Do they have homecoming?
Do they do?
Do they do things?
Yeah, it's more of an excuse to party.
Yes, I totally get that.
And so listen, listen to these events coming up at UW Eau Claire that first weekend of October.
There is the variety show on Thursday evening varsity night live, which I'd covered a few times for the college TV station at the old Zorn Arena, which they've now just torn down at Eau Claire.
But varsity night live was was always a
a good time.
And sometimes there might be fodder that lasts a lifetime.
For example, there was a men's choral group that did a slow version of the carpenter song Superstar.
And it was
I would say cringe worthy because instead where the core the chorus goes don't you remember you told me you love me baby you probably saw it in Tommy boy
and
but they sang it very very seriously don't you remember you told me you love me baby and it wasn't even like for humorous purposes no playing it straight or that has stuck with us ever since so well if that song is coming we'll just be like
baby, baby, baby.
Oh, baby.
Little two stone faced.
Oh, go to your go to your your college campus Friday show.
You're gonna see stuff that is amazing.
Yeah.
And you might you might see something that sticks with you for the purposes of mockery.
You just never know.
Let's see, there will be a homecoming parade that will span 10 blocks of Water Street.
There will be a blue gold football game against the blue devils of UW Stout along, of course, with the blue gold marching band halftime show.
You'll be able to enjoy the fifth quarter festivities.
This part I would go to.
I don't think I'm going to be around to go to it, but if I were, the fifth quarter is going to feature uncommon denominator.
Uncommon denominator is a cover band here in the Chippewa Valley.
I'm featuring blue gold alums.
Oh, cool.
They are so good.
Yeah.
I mean, we we there's I don't know that there's any other band locally that we would seek out.
But uncommon denominator is definitely one of them.
Now, here's a here's one we would not be going to but other people will at the new son of tag center in Eau Claire, you can revel in nostalgia with an I love the 90s tour, featuring tone look young emcee and
Vanilla Ice as your headliner.
Wait a minute.
Parker is just Vanilla Ice is going to be there.
Vanilla Ice is going to be at the I Love the 90s tour concert at the Sonic Tag Center homecoming weekend.
What?
Fine.
The School of Nursing is having its 60th anniversary breakfast.
There will be a jazz concert at the Pablo Center, which I'm sure is going to be killer because UW-Claire known for its jazz program.
blue gold grads from the class of 1975.
Here it comes again.
They're going to have their 50 year reunion during homecoming.
And you can check out things of course, like the progress of the new science building that's going up at the bottom of the hill in the middle of campus there.
And people will get there and go, wait a minute, where did Putnam Hall go?
Where did KT Hall go?
Catherine Thomas, these two old dorms were torn down in order to make room for the new science building, which is
Huge it's a big complex that's going up there so you can check on the progress of that You can look at the pit at what used to be Zorn Arena which hosted countless events over the decades
You can check out the little Niagara, the footbridge, all the other things that you remember.
Climb up the hill and be reminded how much you hated climbing up the hill over and over to get to your dorm when classes were done back in the day.
Yeah.
So anyway, that's that's all the UW Eau Claire 100th homecoming coming up by the weekend of October 4.
Head over to uwec.edu to learn more.
So when I mentioned it was a National Sudoku Day or something, it clearly said, you know, like Alicia says, same Pat Sudoku never appealed to me.
Tony said, I hate Sudoku.
My wife does it all the time.
No chance that I'm going to spend time with numbers just to relax.
Alicia responding to, yeah, it's just math.
I hate math.
And she goes on to say, we could talk about cooler things like World of Warcraft or Guild Wars instead of Sudoku.
So there are alternatives.
I just did not realize it was going to strike a nerve.
I'm glad that I have some
some allies in the desire to, you know, not necessarily play, though, like I was telling Parker near the, you know, over the break, my dislike of Sudoku was based initially on a fatally flawed premise.
I looked at the simple little box of nine numbers and went, well, they're going to run out of combinations.
This thing's never going to catch on because I didn't, again,
do the math as far as all the different combinations and ways that you could play this.
But at that point, my feeling about it went completely to the other end of the spectrum to, Oh, well, that's too much math.
There's too many possibilities.
I don't want to be
this.
Yeah.
Okay, yeah, see and uh sherry and I we still have words with friends which is scrabble and we have a boggle game uh on our phones that we we have we have played thousands of games of boggle around the boggle on there uh on the phone so yeah different strokes for different folks here so all right well coming up in the next hour how would you like to visit our national parks without having to pay anymore you can but you shouldn't
But you can.
It's all part of Donald Trump's plan to starve the national parks and probably lead to more development or privatization.
We'll talk about it coming up after the news with Jeff Renneke from Friends of the Apostle Islands.
That's coming up.
Also Hans Brighton Moser and Sheila Everhart on the growing spots to engage in rural tourism across the great state of Wisconsin.
Two more hours to go as we get rolling on another one of those Tuesday mornings powered by Up North News.
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