What’s a Measly $1.3 Billion? (Hour 1)

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What’s a Measly $1.3 Billion? (Hour 1)

Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Wed Sep 3, 2025

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Pat Kratlow

Hey there, Wisconsin.

Good morning.

It is 606 on this Wednesday morning, September 3rd, 2025.

It's another beautiful morning to have you here up north.

A little damp, but still beautiful.

Live from Lake Wissota, from wherever you're spending your mornings, listening across the Civic Media Radio Network, catching us on all the different platforms that are out there.

Thanks for being along.

Here we are, the middle of the work week already.

And I got a question for you.

What would you do with 1.3 billion dollars?

Yeah, if you could get it and you wouldn't get it all at once you'd get it over a period of years if you won tonight's Powerball jackpot, but still 1.3 billion.

What would you do with that kind of money?

It reminds me that there are so many people more people than ever for whom 1.3 billion dollars would be chump change

In fact, in today's history lesson, we're going to be talking about the world's richest woman.

She became the world's richest woman on this day in history, and we'll tell you what she's done with the money since Jeff Bezos and she divorced.

So we'll talk about that in the history lesson and about the billions and billions and billions of dollars that some people have.

So for you, what would you do with your measly $1.3 billion?

Coming up on the program today, Vice President JD Vance is going to Minneapolis today, the scene of the recent church school shooting.

There was not a similar big visit to Milwaukee after the tragedy of the flash floods there.

Meanwhile, the president is talking about sending troops to Chicago.

These three things are connected, and I will explain coming up in just about 15 minutes or so.

Also coming up on the program today, along with talking about, you know, what you do with a spare billion dollars, if you could find it here.

We'll talk about going back to school, not just in the classrooms, but in Madison and Washington, the legislature and members of Congress, they're all back in class as it were.

We're going to talk to Peggy Words Olson of WEAC about the bills that they're following in the legislature.

They range from big picture revenue bills for the entire state to micromanaging things like cursive handwriting and what kinds of flags can and can't be displayed at school.

You know, the stuff that really makes those legislators earn that taxpayer driven salary.

In our climate check, we will talk about the trick to writing good fiction.

Well, if you work in the Trump White House anyway, the ability to pick and choose which scientific facts match up with your politics.

And that can help you create a very interesting work of fiction making the rounds in Washington DC these days.

A Trump administration report that calls the threat of climate change overblown.

Then, of course, the scientists weighed in and dozens of them pointed out the many errors, the cherry pick data, the blatant misinformation that's in there.

And we'll have Melissa Baldoff telling us more about that coming up.

And we'll visit with Earl Ingram and so much more still ahead.

Jimmy Koska, Brittany Merleau, even that Parker Olson.

Yeah, he's here there.

He's right there.

There

Parker Olson

he

Pat Kratlow

is.

Madison Studio A2.

How are you?

I'm

Parker Olson

good.

I'm here.

I wasn't sure I was until he told me I was here.

So that's good.

Pat Kratlow

I know.

Well, see, that's why I feel the need to occasionally reset and get us oriented the person, place and time.

We are just where we need to be.

So that's all that's coming up on the show today.

And as usual, if you can't stick around for another two hours and 49 minutes and 45 seconds, well, hey, I got a solution for you.

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Like talking about what you do with a spare billion dollars.

Tony up in Ashland puts on YouTube, I'd buy a pontoon boat so I can be like Captain Pat.

Well, trust me, it's not a billion dollar pontoon, but it's a nice start.

You know, if you don't, if you don't have a pontoon, yeah, start with that or, you know, speedboat, a deckboat, a dinghy, whatever floats your boat, as it were.

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Let's

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see, Alicia says, Oh, gosh, I would pay off my house, fix it up, pay off my kids college.

And I think pay for all of the Kimberly class of 2026 college as well.

Well, Alicia, there you go.

We're hoping your ticket wins now.

Parker Olson

I wanted

Pat Kratlow

my ticket to win.

But I mean, you've put it in writing.

So, well, hold you do this.

Yeah, you know what, I think she'd still have a little leftover after paying for the Kimberly class of 2026.

But that is that is a very cool thing.

So thank you for those ideas as well.

By the way, tomorrow on the program, Congressman Mark Pokan will be here.

As I mentioned,

Congress is back in session now, and Congressman Polkhan has had an interesting August, doing a lot of work in his district, a lot of work in Derek Van Orden's district, since somebody there's got to be doing the work over there.

And so we'll talk to Congressman Polkhan about that.

That's tomorrow morning here on the program.

Brittany Merleau, State Forecast.

Well, first we're looking at an area of rain and some embedded thundershowers, stretching from Iron Mountain, Michigan through Shawno, all the way down to Richland Center.

Then cold air is surging in behind that front and temperatures, as she says, are going to feel more like October, well below normal temps on the way, wind chills even.

We've already had our highs for today at midnight and now that front is coming through and bringing the colder air behind it, temperature is going to be dropping by and large for a big chunk of the day.

Her forecast for the first part of the day, steady rain and thunder through midday in the southeastern half of Wisconsin as that line moves on.

Spotty showers are still possible everywhere else, breezy and much cooler.

Highs today only in the mid fifties in the northwestern part of the state, mid sixties southeast, a northwest wind at 15 to 25 miles an hour.

Clearing skies tonight and noticeably crisp, she says.

Brittany says lows tonight up north will be in the mid thirties.

to the low 40s south with a northwest wind at 10 to 15 miles an hour.

And again, Brittany Merleau will have more details coming up.

Tony adds on YouTube now about Alicia's promise to pay for college tuition.

Tony says YouTube comments are legally binding, by the way.

So, Alicia responds, well, then I got to move on to Kokona.

Look at see now that's

You got to appreciate that if you're willing to pay for the college tuition for the kids and Kimberly and Kakana.

Well, that just says you have enough money to do that.

That's really all that that really says.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was a little late getting into into gear today getting the headset on.

Parker was only getting moderately nervous.

But remember how I said yesterday that September is build a better breakfast month?

Parker Olson

Oh, yes, I

Pat Kratlow

did.

I

I built a better breakfast today.

There you go.

Imagine breakfast wraps with some some ham and some cheese and some pre made scrambled eggs and you're you know, a little bit of hot sauce and you roll that up on a flour tortilla.

And oh, it's so delicious.

But please notice that I said pre made scrambled eggs.

And that is the key to this particular build a better breakfast because I went and picked up some groceries yesterday.

And I haven't done this for a long time.

But

just completely lost track of what bags I was carrying.

And as I put the bags down on the counter, I realized I put that one bag down a little harder than I probably should have.

And open it up and sure enough for the eggs had cracked.

Parker Olson

Yeah.

Pat Kratlow

Well, okay, there goes those.

Well, wait a minute, don't throw them away.

You can still do something with them.

So I quickly

You know, after putting the rest of the groceries away, scrambled up some eggs and had them waiting for me this morning to make those breakfast wraps.

So I built a better breakfast completely, completely by accident.

Parker Olson

Kind of forced yourself into that one, huh?

Pat Kratlow

Forced myself into that and delayed pretty much everything else that was going on this morning, but somehow managed to get here.

Parker Olson

You said you almost got a full eight hours of sleep though.

That's pretty impressive.

Pat Kratlow

Uh, that's how tired I was yesterday from, you know, it was, it was our first, uh, full day and full night after the kids and the grandkids had left.

Oh, sure.

And, you know, those, those had been some late nights and some early mornings when the three year old gets up with the six year old and you got to make sure that, you know, pajamas aren't wet and maybe they are and you got to get a change of clothes and all that fun stuff.

Find out which channel is bluey on, you know, and yeah.

get get the kids entertained.

So yeah, last night was, I mean, I, I, when you wake up after eight hours, and you're still tired, you're like, how much longer would I have slept without an alarm?

Parker Olson

Yeah,

Pat Kratlow

that is that is saying something.

So I'm glad I got the sleep.

I could use a little bit more.

You can sign up for our newsletters at Up North News by heading to UpNorthNewsWI.com, click subscribe in the banner at the top of the homepage.

And

In the newsletter today includes a link to an article entitled nine Wisconsin stereotypes that are actually pretty accurate, which, you know, makes sense.

Stereotypes are there for a reason.

And we'll grab a couple of them here.

Goodbyes are extra long.

You're familiar with the Midwest.

I am very guilty of the Midwest.

Oh, you're guilty of it?

Parker Olson

Oh,

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yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Sherry is a master of it.

And I've just

tried to learn to patient because me when it's like you know if it's time to go you you slap your your hands on your lap and you go well oh yeah time it's time to go well time to go uh Friday nights are for fish fry and supper clubs uh yes again guilty uh deer hunting is uh a season it's essentially it's its own holiday in some school district yes very much so

brought fries are a way of life.

Yes.

And yeah, we really do love cheese that much.

Yeah.

So there are several others in there as well.

So through our newsletter, you can get to the website article and learn about those Wisconsin stereotypes.

Although, when I say, oh, yeah, I did not know this has been a thing for a while.

Okay, I'm a little late on this particular meme train.

But the phrase, the phrase, oh, yeah.

One of my daughters was showing me some either tiktoks or reels.

Yeah.

of the the Hoya challenge.

Now, there are many different ways to say that and many different ways to spell it.

I forgot.

I have I have after I think you you folks have heard me for years saying we got to get coffee cups back.

We got to get t-shirts back.

We got to find just the right thing.

It's going to be Hoya.

We're going to put Hoya.

because I realized as first she showed me that, and then for the rest of their visit, as something would happen, you think you're just saying, yeah, but you're saying, oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Parker Olson

And

Pat Kratlow

then, and then they'd go, oh, yeah.

You realize you start hearing it from other people as well, or it's, oh, yeah.

And now it's gonna bug the rest of you for the rest of the day.

I defy you to go through the entire day and not hear at least one other person.

When they think they're just saying okay or yeah, and they're going, oh yeah.

Oh yeah.

It's not, oh yeah.

It comes on like, oh yeah.

Parker Olson

Oh yeah, there's an H on there.

Pat Kratlow

There's definitely an H, you know, and he got it again.

Spelling and pronunciation matters.

It's not, it's not Hoya.

It's not Hoya.

Parker Olson

You

Pat Kratlow

know, it's none of that.

it is it's just it's a it's an oh yeah it's an oh yes but it comes out oh yeah

Parker Olson

i will start a counter and let you know at the end of the show how many hoyas we got oh

Pat Kratlow

and just go through the day you know just that's something we everybody does

Parker Olson

yeah

Pat Kratlow

it just is uh here in the midwest so that's that's what we've got that's that's one of our that's not a stereotype that's just part of the vernacular it's part of the experience

Yeah, to answer a little bit of trivia from the top of the program here, Mackenzie Scott became the world's richest woman on this day in 2020.

After her divorce from Jeff Bezos, he's still the world's richest man, but in the divorce, she became the world's richest newly single woman.

You have to stick around a little longer to find out just how much she started with after the divorce and how much she still got

even after giving away literally billions of dollars.

And also what J.D.

Vance's visit today to a Minneapolis church has in common with Donald Trump's desire to send military troops onto the streets of another American city.

From the heart of America's Up North Live from Lake Wissota, thanks for making this the place to spend a part of your mornings.

I'm Pat Critello.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

Pat (host)

Welcome back at 622 on the text line here from Jim and Brookfield.

Good morning, Pat.

You look and sound well.

So the CPAP must be working.

Are you going through a lot of distilled water?

Thank you, Jim, for the note.

I that that's very kind of you.

I think the eight hours of sleep probably help more than anything.

Typically, it's good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But again, more sleep would be helpful.

But the the CPAP, yes, it is working out great.

Thank you very much.

It is just, again, this thing I thought would be claustrophobic and it has actually turned out to be just something almost comforting.

It's like, okay, you know, focus on your breathing and just fall asleep.

And what do you know?

I focus on my breathing and I just fall asleep.

that thing I've been telling myself to do for 30 years, I just needed something on my face, just go, stay here, stay on the pillow and think about your brain.

And sure enough, it works.

As far as the distilled water for folks that don't know, and I certainly didn't know.

But yeah, there's a little water tank, you put a little distilled water in it every evening.

And that way it provides like a little bit of, you know, humidity in it, it regulates the humidity so you're not just

sucking in dry air.

And you have to remember to do that because once or twice now, I've woken up in the middle of the night and was like, something doesn't feel right.

And you realize that the water tank has gone dry.

But again,

And I say all this why are you talking about CPAP so much because I talked so much beforehand about I don't want to do this I'm in denial etc So if if you suspect sleep apnea is a thing then have somebody check in on it And yeah, I'll go through a you know a gallon of distilled water every couple of weeks Small price to pay for getting a little bit more sleep.

So thank you again, Jim for the note.

I appreciate it very much again tomorrow congressman and mark poke hand will be joining us as will Sean oh

Allie talking about your money and the markets.

We'll talk to Joseph Heckey tomorrow.

Todd Alba, Chad Holmes, all going to be stopping by.

But of course we have plenty to get to today.

including word that the vice president of the United States, J.D.

Vance, is planning a visit to Minneapolis, specifically, of course, to deal with and show some respect for the victims of the recent school church, church school shooting at Annunciation Catholic Church.

the vice president's office talks about, you know, meeting with some of the families, etc.

And of course, the vice president has also offered up thoughts and prayers.

Well, again, that's a choice that you make is to offer up thoughts and prayers rather than any concrete action that could make our kids safer.

There is of all the news coverage around it this this line I want to pick on because it's rather emblematic of my Hangups with the media today.

Okay The paragraph reads like this and it's from the website.

Bring me the news

The shocking incident has sparked an outpouring of grief and demands for action, with Democratic leaders in Minnesota calling for gun control measures, including a ban on assault weapons, while Republicans have criticized Democrats for politicizing the mass killing.

Now again, that's a choice to use that language Republicans have criticized Democrats for politicizing the mass killing rather than feeding into the Republican talking point That line could have just as easily said Democratic leaders calling for gun safety measures including a ban on assault weapons while Republicans have continued to oppose gun safety measures for about 25 years That's what that line could have said to in fact be more factual

It's not fact-based to say Democrats are politicizing the mass killing.

It is fact-based to say that Republicans have been blocking gun safety measures since they got rid of the assault weapons ban back in around 2004.

And again, that's a choice that they make.

I took note, of course, that the vice president is coming to this church school in Minneapolis.

We did not see a similar high-profile visit to Milwaukee after flash flooding went through the city of Milwaukee.

What we're getting instead is all this tough talk from Trump in advance about, you know, not just thoughts and prayers, but let's get tough on shooters by putting troops in the streets.

And the troops in the streets have not made a damn bit of difference in Los Angeles or Washington, DC.

And they can say it all day long that they've suddenly made the streets safer.

They've been picking up garbage.

They've been wasting our tax dollars instead of putting resources into crime prevention and law enforcement.

Their idea of action is to put more guns on the street, to put more soldiers on the street.

And although Trump talked the other day about

putting troops on the streets of Chicago.

He's also talked about the same thing in Minneapolis.

So there'll be this very emotional visit by the vice president today.

But it will be followed up by the usual tough talk about, well, we got to put troops on the streets.

But more guns and more thoughts and prayers are not going to solve this problem.

And Democrats need to stop playing nice about this and need to call out Republicans for their perverted definition of the Second Amendment.

The meaning of the Second Amendment has been completely lost over the past 50 years or so.

You know, the well-regulated militia.

And instead, folks are afraid to do anything, even though when we actually did things like the assault weapons ban for 10 years, it worked.

Democrats, the people are on your side.

Talk tougher, promise strong action about getting weapons of war off our streets and keeping our children safe and calling out Republicans who only want to put more guns on the streets and more troops on the streets for offering up nothing real that will keep our kids safe.

Nothing real permanent troops on our streets.

Well, that's just a police state.

And I know the Milwaukee police union chief basically said I welcome the troops troops can come to Milwaukee That's because that's the tough talk thing you can say what he can't say is I'm sick and tired of Republicans in the legislature and in Congress Underfunding our needs in Milwaukee and America's other cities for partisan and racial reasons If you want to be more honest say that

because that's what actually exists in our country right now and it's not going to be fixed until we start giving the voters what they really want, which is not thoughts and prayers, not more guns.

They want action.

Today's history lesson is coming up next.

You're up north.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Sometimes history lesson can tell you what day it is today.

That would be the temptations.

Starting off with the 3rd of September, the day I'll always remember in the song Papa was a Rolling Stone, released this date in 1972.

Well, not released this day, but they sang about this date in 1972.

when the song came out.

Welcome to today's history lesson.

Parker (contributor)

I hate when a song references a date and it doesn't come out on that date.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Yeah,

Parker (contributor)

missed opportunity

Pat Crightlow (host)

work out that way.

Yeah.

They you know what?

It's every year after that, you know, true.

And we should we we could collect we've done this a few times with what was it?

The Oda Billy Joel we got convoy.

We're gonna get all the songs that reference.

Oh, we've got Earth, Wind and Fire coming up the 23rd night of September.

That's coming up, you know.

Let's work on that.

Let's put that on our to-do list.

Do you remember?

Do you

Parker (contributor)

remember?

Pat Crightlow (host)

Was it 21st?

21st night.

Yeah.

It's early.

What am I going to tell you?

Let's be the Treaty of Paris was signed in Paris on this day.

How convenient in 1783, ending the Revolutionary War between the US and Great Britain.

On this day in 1929, consider this the final day of the roaring twenties.

Because on this day in 1929, the Dow Jones industrial average reached an all time high.

But then in the next month would come the crash of 1929 ushering in the Great Depression.

There are people that really wanted this to be the roaring 20s as well.

You know, we're

Everybody was just carefree and life went well.

COVID kind of took care of that on the front half and other current events, shall we say, took care of it in the middle.

If we're going to have a roaring 20s, it's going to have to happen in the second half of the decade.

Parker (contributor)

I'll tell you, it's going to be a different kind of roaring.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Yeah.

Yeah.

Nobody's going to accuse this decade of be roaring.

That's for sure.

The number one song this week in 1966 was by

Melissa K (guest from WFHR)

Donovan.

Donovan's

Pat Crightlow (host)

Sunshine Superman was the number one song for one week in 1966.

A lot of good songs as I was looking on either side of that that I'm sure will be hitting in the weeks to come.

Let's see, on this day in 1928, Hall of Fame slugger Ty Cobb recorded his 4,189th and final career hit.

The all-time hit record of 4,189 would stand until Pete Rose broke it in 1978.

Both Pete Rose and Ty Cobb, not real nice people, but they could see ball hit ball in the baseball vernacular.

Parker (contributor)

That's true.

That is very true.

One of those people is a little more highly regarded than the other.

Pat Crightlow (host)

I don't even know which one you're

Parker (contributor)

talking about.

No, I think maybe it's recency bias.

But to me, it would appear that Ty Cobb is more highly thought of than Pete Rose.

That is probably recency bias though.

Pat Crightlow (host)

That that is because the at the time again, like like a lot of athletes, you know, they people admired his abilities, but you know,

being a being a drunken brawler and being, you know, a racist and everything else would kind of get in the way

Melissa K (guest from WFHR)

of some other

Pat Crightlow (host)

folks admiring them.

So again, see ball hit ball, not necessarily be a nice person.

On this day in 1957, Milwaukee Braves pitcher Warren Spahn set a record for a left hander with the most shutouts his 41st career shutout in a win over appropriately, the Chicago Cubs.

Warren Spahn still holds the record for the most career wins by a left-handed pitcher.

Wow.

That's amazing.

He was just, he was so good.

What was the old saying?

Spahn insane and pray for rain.

Milwaukee had, I mean, man, did they have a pitching rotation once upon a time.

Happy birthday to Al Jardine of the Beach Boys, one of the co-founders.

He's 83 years old

Parker (contributor)

today.

Pat Crightlow (host)

You're going to wait.

I thought the Beach Boys were a bunch of cousins or siblings or something.

Yes, but Al Jardine was also a high school friend and football teammate of Brian Wilson, who recently passed away.

The late Glenn Bell was born this day in 1923.

I can't quiz Parker on this because he sees the notes ahead of time.

But I think I got Greg on this last year when I said, what was Glenn Bell known for?

And

Parker (contributor)

especially

Pat Crightlow (host)

if you consider the name Bell.

His last name is Greg Bell.

Or Glenn Bell, I'm sorry, Glenn Bell, who was born this day in 1923.

He founded Taco

Parker (contributor)

Bell.

I didn't know that there was someone actually behind that, I figured.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Yes, it was Glenn Bell, who passed away in 2010.

Happy 30th birthday to eBay.

eBay, which stood for Electronic Bay, I guess, okay, was founded by Pierre Omidyar on this day in 1995.

eBay was such a thing in the early days of the dot-com bubble and everything.

And it's still around, but I mean, it was everything, once upon a time.

And so with Parker coming along after eBay had already been on the scene, I think it's a fair question to say, have you ever used eBay?

Parker (contributor)

I have not.

No, eBay, Craigslist, what's her name?

Tell you a blue book.

All that Angie's list.

That's it.

Yes.

Yeah.

All that stuff is kind of a mythical realm of the yes or year internet for me,

Pat Crightlow (host)

which at again at the time was, you know, life changing.

Like,

Parker (contributor)

wait a minute.

I can

Pat Crightlow (host)

I can go to this site and I can, you know, bid a lower price.

And if nobody beats me, I get the stuff.

I mean, I have a I have a set of golf clubs in the shed when I thought I was going to take up golf.

I went on eBay.

I found some golf clubs.

It turns out the golf clubs are defective.

They're, they're just not very good.

Parker (contributor)

Certainly

Pat Crightlow (host)

the clubs.

Yeah.

It's, it's the clubs.

Parker (contributor)

It's

Pat Crightlow (host)

got to be eBay's fault.

Parker (contributor)

That's why it's

Pat Crightlow (host)

on myself all the time.

Yeah.

I picked up some other things on there.

I picked up, uh, let's see.

I want to say it was an Eau Claire Braves scorecard that Joe Tory had autographed.

Oh, cool.

And Tory was a manager of the Yankees at the time that I thought, Oh, this will be a nice thing.

It's still in the basement somewhere.

But I mean, other people made a living out of eBay.

I mean, they would, you know, collect various things, you know, they get people's antiques or rummage or other little knickknacks, put it up on eBay.

And I'm sure people still do it today, just not, not used, not to nearly the degree.

Like Tony says on YouTube, I used eBay a lot, but then Amazon replaced it.

Parker (contributor)

Yeah.

Pat Crightlow (host)

And

Parker (contributor)

probably

Pat Crightlow (host)

a Facebook marketplace

Parker (contributor)

too.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Facebook marketplace probably played a role and and eBay got to like a lot of things that kind of lost its innocence.

There'd be either some scammers on there or just got, you know, kind of corporatized, I guess you could say.

But let's see.

What does Adam say here?

eBay is still a great place to buy items you might have missed out on like the Bob Euker commemorative pin from the celebration of life game.

Thank you, Adam.

Yes, see, eBay still has a role to be played today.

So I'm not saying it's it's not being used.

It is.

I'm just saying it was it was everywhere once upon a time.

And again, that was founded 30 years ago today.

Happy birthday to Don Brewer.

He's the drummer and founder of Grand Funk Railroad, talking about the Hodel Detective being out of sight.

Grand Funk Railroad still on my top 20 list of favorite groups.

If you were to get me, if I were to have to just listen to the same 20 CDs, well.

vinyl albums, whatever you kids call it today.

Grand Funk Railroad's greatest hits might be one of those.

I am shocked to inform everybody here on the birthday list.

Charlie Sheen has made it to 60 years old.

I did not have that on my bingo card of Charlie Sheen making 60.

Parker (contributor)

That's

Pat Crightlow (host)

bad.

That many years ago when he

I mean, he didn't just wash out of two and a half men.

I mean, he imploded.

He didn't burn bridges.

He napalmed those bridges.

And he is somehow still with us after all these years.

And he's younger than me.

But I'm like, happy birthday, Charlie Sheen.

You made it to 60.

Parker (contributor)

Welcome to the

Pat Crightlow (host)

club.

Welcome to the club.

Happy birthday to Jennifer Page, who had a hit half her life ago with Crush, but she's 52 years old today.

On this day in 1935, Sir Malcolm Campbell reached a speed of 304 miles an hour on the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah, becoming the first person to drive an automobile more than 300 miles an hour this day in 1935.

Which is pretty impressive.

You think 1935, you're still thinking like Fred Flintstone.

You know, it's all foot-powered cars and maybe a horse was pulling it, but no.

No, you could do 300 miles an hour.

Parker (contributor)

That is a very good point.

I don't know how applicable that is.

I don't know how often I see cars going 300 miles an hour, but I'm glad that we did it.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Again, technology.

The technology was there.

From Tony on YouTube back to Charlie Sheen.

Could Dr. Lyrely please explain how he's alive?

We'll put that on the list for her Friday visit.

The physiological explanation about.

Charlie Sheen still being with us.

Let's see, Culture Club had a record release this day in 1982.

And let's see, let's go up to 1990, where George Michael released his second solo album, Listen Without Prejudice.

And let's see, I believe Praying for Time, is that what we have queued up on this one?

Parker (contributor)

I do have it, I have both of these queued up if you like

Pat Crightlow (host)

both.

Oh yeah, okay, well let's do a little bit of Praying for Time.

Parker (contributor)

Okay, let's do that.

Pat Crightlow (host)

really good album from George Michael and then he had you know much more of a pop hit with Freedom 90.

I want to caution you this is a clip off the George Michael album release to stay in 1990.

Todd Alba is not about to show up here in the studio.

I sometimes wonder how many people listening to the Todd Alba show when he starts off with this and just like just play the song play the full song because I know people thought that when I used to play Stevie Ray Vaughan at the top of the hour.

It was like, right?

Look, could you not?

Yeah, just just let the song play out.

Please.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Todd, Todd Alba's not coming to the studio.

Melissa Kay is.

However, the WF8 jar in Wisconsin Rapids.

Good morning.

Good morning.

How are you?

Melissa K (guest from WFHR)

I am okay.

How are you?

Pat Crightlow (host)

Very good.

So nice to see you.

How's Lelu?

Melissa K (guest from WFHR)

You know what?

They asked to come out of their cage yesterday.

Like

Pat Crightlow (host)

asked, like passed you a little note or

Melissa K (guest from WFHR)

no, stood in front of the door because I had to leave in the middle of the day.

And when I came back, they came out of their little cave and stood in front of the door and just like looked around.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Oh,

Melissa K (guest from WFHR)

just stood there.

And when I came close, they moved away and went and hid and I opened the door and then they came out like right away.

So I think we've making progress.

Pat Crightlow (host)

You are making progress.

Look at the bonding that's going on here.

This is awesome.

Hey, on this day in 2020, we talked earlier about Mackenzie Scott, philanthropist ex-wife of Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos.

Because of the divorce, she at that moment became the world's richest woman worth $68 billion.

And to date, she's given away at least

$20 billion of debt.

Imagine having the power to give away $20 billion with much more still to come.

It just leads into our question here, Melissa, with the Powerball jackpot tonight being $1.3 billion, what would you do?

What would be some of the first things you'd do if you wanted $1 billion?

Well,

Melissa K (guest from WFHR)

I'd pay up all my debt, probably all my family's debt.

And yeah, I travel the world.

And then I'd sit down and start doing good things with it.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Yeah, I mean, wouldn't that be fun?

Yeah, the whole notion of being able to do good things with a big old pile of money and

Melissa K (guest from WFHR)

scholarships for kids to go to school and put music back in schools.

And there's just so much you could do.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Oh, and Mackenzie Scott's done a lot of that and has gotten a lot of credit, by the way, as well, for the way in which she's done it, with a lot fewer strings attached to those billions that she's giving out.

We're talking to Melissa K from WFHR in Wisconsin Rapids.

I'm Pat Crightlow from Lake Wasota.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

We are well into sports season now here for fall sports.

Baseball, of course, continues and the Brewers will be taking on the Phillies.

Coverage begins tonight at 6.05 on several civic media stations, but we're moving into football season as well.

The Wisconsin Badgers football season is underway and their second game of the season is coming up this Saturday afternoon against Middle Tennessee.

coverage begins at one o'clock.

on stations in Richland Center, Amory, Wisconsin Rapids and Rippin.

Head over to the Civic Media website to learn more about that.

By the way, on the topic of sports, Don corrected me out of Waukesha.

Pete Rose broke Ty Cobb's hit record in 1985.

He broke the consecutive hits record back in 1978.

And I remember 1978 sounded weird with me at the time, but I forgot to double check my work.

And thank you, Don, for doing that.

Melissa

K is back with us from 1055 WIRI in 97.5 WFHR in Wisconsin Rapids, where has the hangover finally settled down from the 85th birthday parking lot party or do you still have other festivities going on?

Melissa Kay (guest)

Well, we do have the downtown grand affair coming up.

We're going to be out of live remote on Sunday.

in downtown Wisconsin Rapids where a lot of you know like businesses will have booths will have stuff for sale will have you know just like fun and entertainment and music and color guards gonna be there so it's gonna be a good time

Pat Crichtlow (host)

nice uh as i was filling up the coffee cup something caught my eye in the kitchen i've got a visual for you that's maybe not so much use for parkering i know that's a great radio but i'm gonna describe what this is it's it's a

It looks like a metal mixing bowl with a long handle on it.

Yeah.

And kind of a strainer at the bottom of it.

So it's not really a mixing bowl.

It's more like a strainer.

And then a crank, a crank at the top.

And then you you turn this crank over and over again as these blades were at the bottom.

Can you guess what was made in the Crite low kitchen last night using this contraption scrambled eggs.

No, this was not the scrambled eggs.

Rice potatoes?

Rice potatoes is a good guess, but no, this is an applesauce maker.

And our and our neighbor gave us a bag of apples, which and Sherry made the most amazing apple crisp.

But then she also boiled a bunch of the apples and then you put the boiled apple mixture in here, you crank this thing.

And it strains out just the applesauce and leaves all the peelings and things like that behind.

And yeah, so we had we had

We had some delicious... Who

Melissa Kay (guest)

made applesauce?

My mom had one that attached to the side of the table with a clamp.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

Oh, yeah.

Yes.

Yes.

Yeah.

My grandma had almost like

Melissa Kay (guest)

a meat grinder.

But

Pat Crichtlow (host)

yes.

Oh, my goodness.

Meat grinders.

Did you my grandma?

Yes, I remember that.

Oh, boy, the stuff your own

Melissa Kay (guest)

hamburgers.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

Yep.

Best.

Yep.

I haven't seen a good pasta maker in a while, though.

Some people have those big stand mixers.

And you can put a pasta maker

Melissa Kay (guest)

attachment on there.

An attachment.

That's what I do with my billion dollars.

I

Pat Crichtlow (host)

would.

There you go.

You would buy them.

You wouldn't make a company that makes them so you could sell them and make no more billions.

Melissa Kay (guest)

Yeah,

Pat Crichtlow (host)

we

Melissa Kay (guest)

already sell it.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

Not not very well.

Melissa Kay (guest)

Right.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

Good point.

Oh, Adam notes the the applesauce maker.

He says great for tomato sauce to

Melissa Kay (guest)

Pat.

Oh

Pat Crichtlow (host)

yeah.

Ever even thought of that

Melissa Kay (guest)

point

Pat Crichtlow (host)

making your own.

Oh, you know where that gets me?

Oh boy.

You know, you know, I'm making my own salsa.

I want to I want to make my own salsa.

Melissa Kay (guest)

You Yeah, but you don't really need I mean, I guess you you do need tomato paste for that.

But I don't know my mom did my mom used to make her own salsa.

Be careful with the cilantro.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

Oh, see, that's the point.

Sherry does not like cilantro at all.

And I don't, and I don't like my my salsa, you're like super chunky.

I want I want flavor, but I don't necessarily want the chunks.

I mean, if I

Melissa Kay (guest)

almost want to paste, then yeah.

Yeah,

Pat Crichtlow (host)

because I mean, if I want to, I'll order, I'll get a side order.

If I want something chunky, I want salsa, which is more like a condiment, you know, essentially.

Yeah, exactly.

Boy, look what we're doing with our billion dollars.

Have a better breakfast month, guys.

Way, way to think big.

Alright, let's let's think bigger for the billion dollars.

I mean, for me, the big one, once you set up the foundation, you know, to help other people, let's be self indulgent for a moment here.

First and foremost, for me, it's travel.

I mean, I, I'll keep the house as a home base, but I'm not going to see it very much.

Put it that way.

Right.

What about you?

Would you travel?

Melissa Kay (guest)

Oh, absolutely.

I would want to travel as much as possible.

See as much of this beautiful planet that we have.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

Mm

Melissa Kay (guest)

hmm.

Yep.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

Yep.

Melissa Kay (guest)

And then try to do things to help save it.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

Yes.

Yes.

Yeah.

Enjoy a little bit and then save a little bit.

Parker, what about you?

Billion dollars?

Think big.

Oh, man.

Think big.

I don't know.

Buy the brewers off of Marcan and Osio.

Melissa Kay (guest)

I was going to be sports related.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

That's a good one.

That's great.

No, I love that.

Now look, some people don't need a billion dollars and some people don't even need eBay.

And of course, I'm talking about Luke Mathers, who's on here talking about eBay because we had one person talk about getting those Euker commemorative pins from the celebration of life a couple of weeks back and he got that on eBay.

Mathers puts up here, who needs eBay?

My mom brought me one from

the game.

And then later, Parker, you want to you want that sausage racing Krippage board?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And of course, Luke pops back up on the text line.

I have one of those two.

Of course he does.

Of course he

Melissa Kay (guest)

does.

Apparently, Luke is the guy to know.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

Yeah.

Or his mom.

Yeah.

He's handsome.

He's capable.

And he has the cool stuff.

I want to go to Luke's house.

A cool and generous mom.

That's the way it works.

What else am I missing from the Wisconsin Repertory that you guys are up to?

Melissa Kay (guest)

You know, it's just a lot of live radio and we've got more events coming up.

I don't have my list in front of me, but we have a

Pat Crichtlow (host)

parade.

But there's always something.

There's always

Melissa Kay (guest)

something.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

Oh yeah.

Leto's out and flapping.

Oh, see, again, we're taking credit for this.

This is, I mean, you got earphones in.

So I'm, I know Lelu's not hearing any of this, right?

Is hearing me is hearing you and how animated you are talking to us.

And so once again, we are going to, we're going to take the credit for giving Lelu, you know, some, some reason to be out there flapping away wanting to take part

Melissa Kay (guest)

out of the cage.

Yes.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

Yes.

Make it a very interactive radio show here.

Melissa Kay, you can catch her on

WFHR and WIRA, WIRI out of Wisconsin Rapids.

And Melissa, thanks for visiting with us today.

Hope you have a great day.

Melissa Kay (guest)

Always good to see

Pat Crichtlow (host)

you.

Oh, always good to have you around as well.

Take care.

In our next hour, we will of course continue talking about some of the headlines that have been in the news today.

And we will also have our homeroom segment with Peggy Ward-Solson from WEAC.

And then in our eight o'clock hour, we'll be talking to Melissa Baldoff with our climate check report.

From Lake Wissota, I'm Pat Crichtlow.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Pat Crightlow (Host)

Good morning.

It is 706.

Nice to have you back here up north on this Wednesday morning, September 3rd.

Parker Olson producing this shindig down in Madison Studio A2 and coming up a little later this hour, we'll talk to Peggy Words Olson from WEAC.

It's back to school time.

And along with tracking, you know, new lessons and homework assignments comes tracking legislation out of Madison and Washington DC.

And we'll find out from the Educators Association what it is that they're following.

some things that are very big picture bills and some that are rather a ticky tack, you know, micromanaging what teachers do for a living.

So we'll get into that a little bit later on this hour.

Again, on this Wednesday morning, it's the 3rd of September, and I wanted to point out a couple of comments that were in the mail bag here as we get set to bring Brittany on board here.

Let's see Alicia notes on YouTube.

Oh boy.

It just started raining kind of hard here in Green Bay I'm looking at the radar right now, and I'm seeing exactly what you mean here and let's see there was also one about The weather here it was from Roger on Facebook who says good morning my Facebook memories show that two years ago today the high and Stevens point was 101

and that it got to 100 in Wapaka and Wisconsin Rapids.

Brittany Merleau is here to tell us that ain't happening today.

Brittany Merlot (Weather Reporter)

No way.

I don't know.

Now I'm like, would you rather have 100 degrees or 50 degrees?

Pat Crightlow (Host)

Oh, we're doing would you rather on 50 or 50 or 100?

50.

If

Parker Olson (Producer)

it's on 50 or

Pat Crightlow (Host)

100?

Well, again, it depends on the calendar.

If it's August, yes,

Parker Olson (Producer)

I'm

Pat Crightlow (Host)

going to insist on 100.

It's September.

I could accept the 50.

Brittany Merlot (Weather Reporter)

Ooh, I like it, Pat.

Pat Crightlow (Host)

I like it.

I know.

I know.

See, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not that much of a summer devotee.

I just don't want it to be 50 in August.

50 in September is what we're going to get though.

That's,

Parker Olson (Producer)

that's

Pat Crightlow (Host)

just what's out there because I mean, that is a well-defined front that is moving through Green Bay and getting close to the Madison area and down to Prairie Duchine.

And there's, there's some noticeable changes behind it, aren't there?

Brittany Merlot (Weather Reporter)

Oh yes, those winds are whipping out of the Northwest across Lake Superior.

Right now it's picking up into the North.

You can definitely feel the difference.

In fact, Northeast Wisconsin today, your high temperatures.

You're only going to make it to the mid 40s.

You're actually going to be dropping a lot of the northern part of the state throughout the afternoon.

Highs will be hit early this morning.

50s to 60s for most of the state today.

maybe we'll squeak out a 70 degree by Milwaukee.

I highly doubt it, but it is possible that front is of course moving its way towards Madison right now into the Fox Valley and headed towards Milwaukee afterwards.

A lot of the Northwest part of the state staying dry this morning, but a few wrap around spotty showers and storms do still look like they had towards us again this afternoon.

So chances for rain still continuing.

It's going to be a dark and damp day today, mostly cloudy winds starting to whip.

Like I said, much, much cooler than where we should be.

And then the clouds start to clear late tonight.

This is not a good thing because this is going to allow the temperatures to crash pretty chilly.

I'm talking mid thirties throughout north central parts of the state.

We could see a frost advisory going out, maybe dropping to 32 degrees in some places like Hayward or maybe up towards Vilas County.

Those areas tonight, if you have sensitive plants outside or gardens still going.

Take care of that before it gets too cold by the morning.

Tomorrow we're not looking at much warmth either low fifties to low sixties across the state.

We'll start off with some sunshine but then we've got more rain rolling through tomorrow afternoon and into the evening winding down by Friday and we actually have a dry weekend ahead and it slowly starts to warm up but we stay breezy through at least Friday and well below average.

Pat Crightlow (Host)

Let's see, we've got from Robin Tigerton.

Good morning.

It's cloudy 60 degrees.

Tigerton picked up three tenths of an inch of rain from a thunderstorm that went through around 5am yesterday.

I mowed six yards in Tigerton.

The fall grass is coming through.

There's a little brownish top to the grass now.

Uh, not here yet, but I've been watching for it.

Yep.

Uh, today I have a doctor's appointment in Shawno.

I have to find an alternate route to Theta care because the highway 29, 22 interchange is closed.

That's the main route from 29 to downtown Shawno.

So Labor Day may be passed, but construction season, it's not over yet.

Parker Olson (Producer)

And

Pat Crightlow (Host)

Rob also handy on the weather almanac.

He says that two years ago on the state, it was 101 degrees in Tigerton, but to get to Brittany's.

Yeah, well, and that's and that's where Tony wraps it up by saying 50 all day every day.

Brittany Merlot (Weather Reporter)

Yes, same here.

Same here.

It's that's comfortable, right?

You

Parker Olson (Producer)

can

Brittany Merlot (Weather Reporter)

put on more clothes.

And

Parker Olson (Producer)

you get used to 50 to you don't get used to 100.

Brittany Merlot (Weather Reporter)

That's true good point Parker

Pat Crightlow (Host)

Rob says just think we had this pattern in January temperatures would not get above zero and That's where I draw the line.

You can talk about 50 and you talk about a hundred but zero is like No, I never accept that.

Can you just very briefly talk about the concept of wrap around showers because it's

it's got to be a little it's got to be tricky, because it's one thing to see a system coming in and the system is swirling counterclockwise as they do.

And so you see the front end, and then that wrapping around it counterclockwise, sometimes you get showers on the on the backside as it comes through.

And sometimes you don't.

And am I right?

Is that a much trickier thing to predict?

Brittany Merlot (Weather Reporter)

it really is because you're getting this cold dry air that's moving in behind it.

Well, that kind of kills showers and storms.

So when you also get the cold dry air over the lake, that creates them.

So it's hard to determine just the right standards.

Will it actually happen?

Will it fall?

Will it be a light rain or will it be a heavy rain too?

So there's a lot of things with those wraparound showers, but with the strong winds and a big system disturbing it, more than likely we go with it's going to happen.

Pat Crightlow (Host)

Yeah, I mean, I'm looking you know, the system is such that you know, I'm guessing the center is right there on the border between Michigan and the UP because there's a mess of showers, you know that wrap around up into Lake Superior.

But then you're kind of looking going well, does it does it wrap around the backside and spank you again?

It's like, well, we don't know.

You never know what these systems are going to do.

So keep an eye out for it.

All right, Brittany, thank you so much.

Have a great day.

Brittany Merlot (Weather Reporter)

You too.

Pat Crightlow (Host)

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We have a question of the week as well.

And our question this week is about dreamers.

Those would be the children of undocumented immigrants and the United States is the only country they've ever known.

Their parents have been here working hard paying taxes into the system, even though they're never going to get the benefits from it, despite what some politicians want to tell you.

These kids have been going to school.

They've been graduating.

They've been moving on.

They've become adults.

Are they now fair game for you to just pluck off the streets and deport to a country they've ever never known?

Or would the better way to go be providing a path towards citizenship?

I mean, the answer seems to be self-evident, but I definitely want to hear from people who

are so quote unquote law and order that they believe that people like this are, you know, deserve to be stateless, that if Donald Trump wants to round them up, yeah, he can round them up because their parents came here and did not go through a system that has not been reformed.

That is so ridiculously convoluted.

But we'd love to have your thoughts and you get our Sunday morning question of the week first, if you sign up for a Sunday morning newsletter, sign up for it at UpGorantNewsWI.com.

A little later, I'm going to get into three different topics where we can make the point that not every issue is decided on a partisan or even an ideological basis right away on a knee jerk reaction.

There's not one, not two, but three different stories where I can honestly look at them and go, I'm not sure how I feel about this.

I need to learn more.

It's the kind of thing I wish more people would say is just to say, you know, I don't know, let me look into it and I'll give you my thoughts later.

And don't just shoot from the lip.

You know, the way Donald Trump did about, he was asked about an object being thrown from the White House window over the weekend.

And he was like, oh, that's AI.

And maybe it was AI.

Maybe I should just blame everything on AI.

Well, we learned later that some maintenance work was being done and some items were being, you know, thrown through the window down to a dumpster or whatever.

So it was real.

Why wouldn't the President just say, I don't know.

First, I've heard of it.

Let me get back to you instead of just making up stuff.

So we'll get into some of these issues a little bit later on.

But first with Parker Olson here, I want to explore a topic you might have heard from Mike Clemens doing sports at the top here.

And he's got some from Brewer's manager, Pat Murphy, saying, well, we haven't had that talk yet.

Well, actually we have.

We're starting this talk right now.

The talk being Jacob Mizorowski.

Great electric start in the beginning, first game or two.

And then what we're seeing from him is saying to me and a whole lot of other people, this guy's not a starter.

This guy belongs in the bullpen.

He's throwing 102 miles an hour consistently.

How is this guy not your closer or at least your guy in the seventh and eighth endings to shut things down?

I mean, Pat Murphy saying, well, we don't really need that right now.

I don't know why you wouldn't.

I mean, I get it.

You need starting pitching.

You need good starting pitching.

But is Jacob Mizorowski the best starting pitcher if you're only going to get three plus innings?

Parker Olson (Producer)

No, he's not.

I think that you're at a point with Mizorowski that you definitely would be better off and like.

I think a long really, I don't think he might be best with an opener.

If you have an opener for one to one, if Aaron Ashby opens for like two winnings and Mizrowski comes in, he gives you another three, maybe four.

That could put you in a really good spot.

I don't know necessarily that the Brewers need any more setup man or closer type things, but maybe with Trevor McGill suffering that I can't remember what it is, something on his elbow.

Pat Crightlow (Host)

Uh, Trevor McGill to, or was it just a Shelby Miller

Parker Olson (Producer)

from another

Pat Crightlow (Host)

day?

Parker Olson (Producer)

I'm going to, I'm going to fact check myself.

I thought that we had somebody that was messed up here.

Pat Crightlow (Host)

Yeah.

No, Shelby Miller felt something in his elbow pop when he was pitching the, uh, the other day.

So, uh, and again, much like the three items I'm talking about in the news, this item too, it's like, there is no instant answer.

I actually, you know, you can hear it in our voices.

We actually want to know a little bit more.

We want to talk this out a bit that.

Because Mizorovsky had like a perfect six innings in his debut,

Parker Olson (Producer)

you know,

Pat Crightlow (Host)

and then he was a no hitter for like, what five innings for five innings in his second game.

Parker Olson (Producer)

Yeah,

Pat Crightlow (Host)

we're thinking, Oh, this is the starter of the future.

We're going to get no hitters out of this guy.

We're going to get perfect games out of this guy.

And it turns out, no, we're not.

We you're going to get a couple of really good innings.

Parker Olson (Producer)

So

Pat Crightlow (Host)

where do you where do you use them best?

And because we're not a sports talk station.

We're just going to leave it at that.

We just set the table.

We just set the table and then you all discuss later on.

Parker Olson (Producer)

I did fact check myself though.

I am correct.

Trevor

Pat Crightlow (Host)

McGill has a

Parker Olson (Producer)

thing too.

Trevor McGill has a right flexor strain.

He's on the 15 day I.L.

right now.

Gotcha.

So maybe you put McGill back there.

Pat Crightlow (Host)

So maybe, maybe we just stop trying the second guess, Pat Murphy.

Yeah, he knows what he's doing.

Parker Olson (Producer)

Leave him in his pocket pancakes alone.

He's doing fine.

Pat Crightlow (Host)

Brurs were off yesterday, finally.

And now they get back in action this evening against the Phillies coverage begins at 605 on stations in Richland Center.

Oshkosh we're seeing Kenosha.

Park Falls and Hayward.

And while we're talking sports, of course, there's high school football all over the place across the civic media radio network head over to the website civicmedia.us to learn more.

And of course, on Saturday, you've got Badger football, the Badgers taking on Middle Tennessee coverage begins at one o'clock on Saturday on stations in Richland Center, Amory, Wisconsin Rapids and Ripon and

And there's more.

The Packers are playing on some civic media stations as well.

Playing the Detroit Lions in the season opener this Sunday.

Kickoff is at 325.

But you can catch the pregame for the Packers starting Sunday at 1pm on WRCO in Richland Center, WCQM in Park Falls, WRJN in Racine, and then Civic Media's newest Green Bay Packers affiliate, WAUH in Wattoma.

All of those places where you can catch the Packers.

We'll be talking to Peggy Woods-Holson from WEAC coming up in about 15 minutes.

But first, from the heart of America's Up North, live from Lake Wissota, thanks for making this the place to spend part of your mornings.

I'm Pat Crightlow.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Welcome back.

It's just about 723 on this Wednesday morning.

It's 57 degrees in the Chippewa Valley, 64 in La Crosse right now.

Amory, you're at 54, Oshkosh, 63 degrees.

And in Watoma at Cristiano's Coffee Bar, it is 62 degrees right now.

We occasionally get people who ask us about the the way the morning show is structured because throughout the course of the morning there are folks at some of our local affiliates who get local news updates a couple of times an hour and They they ask well, what if you know, you're continuing to ramble on right?

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whether it's over social media, over terrestrial radio, by podcast, or by listening at the website or getting the newsletter, all of these different ways to follow what we're doing at Up North News and across the civic media radio network.

All right, I promised you, I'd mentioned a few things where it's not really easy to say from the top, I like this idea, I don't like this idea.

One of them deals with

Epic, the big medical records company based out of Madison.

The headline in the CapTimes is Epic Partners with the Trump administration on a new health tech initiative.

Okay, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services says the goal is building, quote, smarter, more secure and more personalized health care experiences.

The project is focusing on two areas according to the CapTimes, more access to personalized tools for patients to better understand their medical information, and promotion of a federal network that would allow health systems to exchange and use information in a coordinated and secure way.

Okay, now if Donald Trump weren't president, and I told you all of those things, you might be inclined to say,

Yeah, that's that makes sense.

One problem we have in this country is that health systems databases and records can't talk to each other.

And I know from having a wife who's a physician, the frustration of a new patient coming to you, but they don't have all the stuff in their medical history, and it's not easy to access it from someplace else.

So on the surface, there's definitely something positive about this.

But now you add what Elon Musk and Doge did.

with sensitive personal information across all government databases.

And now you're wondering, well, what are they going to do when they can have access to our medical records and medical history?

So I'm not ready to say that what Epic is doing shouldn't be done in partnership with the Trump administration.

But I am saying that there is reason to want to know more and to know more about the safeguards that would be in place to protect our privacy.

Here's the next issue.

It deals with President Trump meeting with the president of South Korea last week and an announcement being made that South Korea is going to help rebuild the US shipbuilding industry.

Now recall we had Tom Nelson on a couple of weeks back about his book about the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

and how the Edmund Fitzgerald was actually in really poor shape, very poor maintenance.

A lot of shortcuts have been taken in part because America had taken its shipbuilding industry for granted and then let it wither and practically die.

I think we built something like 1% of the world's ships right now.

It used to be a much, much bigger number.

South Korea is one of those big players.

And so Trump and South Korea announcing a partnership that South Korea would help the US build up its shipbuilding.

Again, on its surface sounds like it has potential.

But again, what are the safeguards that protect American jobs?

Senator Tammy Baldwin put out a statement about this the other day, saying, Okay, let's make sure that this is actually good for American workers, that this isn't say another Foxconn, where an overseas company comes in, makes all these big promises, and then doesn't fulfill them.

Or is this just all

on the surface and it's actually South Korea that's going to be building more of our ships.

Are we just outsourcing more of our shipbuilding?

So again, in this story, a couple of different ways to look at it, we got to learn more before we pass judgment and we've got to look for the safeguards.

And then finally, I noticed what was at first a rather interesting but somewhat generic announcement about a new advocacy organization called the Northwoods Policy Network.

And full of, you know, the kind of language you'd want to hear, the organization aims to be the Northwoods voice across the state, advocating for greater policy considerations and economic opportunity.

The group will educate others on the unique challenges our communities have faced in recent decades, as well as offering research and solutions that make our region not just a destination, but a home.

OK, that's all fine.

But then when you look at, say, some of the tweets that they put out, it's pretty clear that they talk about, for example, one of the co founders is a big supporter of, you know, small modular nuclear reactors is opposed to solar energy wants to talk about growing the lumber industry and

also talks about other energy investments, and I don't mean new energy or green energy.

I'm talking about, again, going with things that are not necessarily in line with what you might find in the Inflation Reduction Act.

In other words, what I'm saying is for all the cliches about representing the Northwoods, it better not be just another

as if Wisconsin manufacturers and commerce had a branch office up north.

And the answer is to just clear cut forests and to build more strip mines.

If that's what the Northwoods Policy Network is about, we want no part of it.

But again, we don't know that.

There's definitely room to learn more.

And so we're going to keep an open mind.

But I wanted to tell you about it to make sure that you follow it.

More after this, you're up north.

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Welcome to our homeroom segment where we speak every week at this time about public education in Wisconsin, opportunities, threats and so forth.

And it's the start of a new school year.

It's not just the kids that are back in class.

It's not just the teachers that are getting back to work.

But things are getting back into gear in Madison and in Washington DC.

A lot is happening there for our educators to keep an eye on.

And so to help the educators keep an eye on things is the Wisconsin Education Association Council.

And Peggy Words Olson joins us from there now.

Peggy, good morning.

And I can't help but notice.

Let's see, you spell your name, O-L-S-E-N as well.

Same as that Parker Olsen guy.

Parker, who's, is there a connection here we need to know?

There's a slight connection.

This is my Aunt Peg.

Welcome

Peggy Words Olson

to the show.

Peggy,

Pat Krightlow

where's Olsen?

Is your Aunt Peg?

Yeah.

This, this is wonderful.

I love the small world thing.

This, this makes me happy.

Peggy, but, I mean, let's forget the school stuff.

Let's get into Parker here for a second.

Peggy Words Olson

Oh, let's not,

Pat Krightlow

no.

Are you proud of this young man that he has not taken very good choices in life and he's ended up on a ridiculous morning radio show?

Do you want to give him any career advice right now at this point?

Peggy Words Olson

Well, it's fantastic to get to see him so early in the morning.

And when he said he had taken a job with you all, you know, like finished college, starting with you almost the next day.

Perfect career choices.

Well done.

Pat Krightlow

Oh, thanks.

I'm getting, it's like every day, and I don't get outside very much, but I'm getting compliments all the time.

Like, hey, Parker, he's really a nice addition and

Peggy Words Olson

all that.

So

Pat Krightlow

yes, I am.

And so I clearly have Peggy to thank for this.

I now know where the good family influence came from.

So thank you, Aunt Pegg, for doing that.

Let's get into some of the WEAC matters that you're working on for the start of the new school year.

I was looking at the the WEAC website about the the various bills that you have to follow and you can do that at weac.org.

And I mean, they range all over the place.

There was news coverage recently about a back to school sales tax holiday.

Then there's big picture things like, you know, the state budget and revenue and referendums.

And there are these things that are a rinky dink to the point of ridiculousness about just

basically wanting to micromanage teachers it is a small miracle Peggy that you guys can follow everything that might affect your members in one in some way shape or form.

Peggy Words Olson

Well you know as our members right educators like me start this school year I know that top of mind is certainly their excitement about jumping back into the classroom but they often tell me

I want to focus on the work I do every day in my school with my students.

And I don't have all the time to be tracking the, as you've referred to it, some of the micromanaging or some of the nonsense that comes out of sometimes Washington, especially now and certainly Madison.

Pat Krightlow

No, and that's where a lot of people are.

They just want to do their job, but they also want to be informed, you know, without having to go through all the bills themselves and everything else.

So over the summer, when your members would say, look, I was really busy, what is this deal with the state budget?

Did it help or hurt or what?

What are the kinds of things that you told your members in the wake of the state budget as far as what it did and what it didn't do going forward?

Peggy Words Olson

Yeah, our members were disappointed with what they saw out of Madison with this state budget, you know, zero new aid for K 12 public schools.

So basically we have a budget that's not going to keep up with inflation and 66% of our school districts are set to lose state aid.

Now, we can unpack more of the struggles with that budget, you know, special ed reimbursement that falls short of what we need asking for 90% the same as our vouchers get.

And, you know, we landed on 42% and 45 in the second year.

So unpacking all of that, but it doesn't take an expert in any field to recognize that public schools are underfunded and this budget didn't get it done to help that.

Pat Krightlow

No, and I would call folks attention to our friends at motherhood for good.

And Kate Duffy did another one of her excellent videos that explains this whole situation, explains revenue limits and the per pupil adjustments, what that means versus the general state aid.

And yeah, you can put a little more money in the special education pot.

But you can't say that that makes up for a 0% increase in general education aid.

I mean, that's just not how the numbers work when it comes to inflation and things like that.

And so we are almost certainly going to see another wave of school referendums, which again puts educators and school board members in a position of having to quote unquote justify asking the property taxpayers for more money.

I sense Peggy that this is much it's becoming less of a defensive answer and more of a go on offense answer in terms of you know really pointing out who is it that's holding back and underfunding our public schools.

Peggy Words Olson

Absolutely so you know decisions in Madison impact districts every district across Wisconsin.

The bottom line really comes down to the haves and the have nots when you're asking

primarily most school districts in Wisconsin task their own taxpayers to raise their taxes to fund their public schools.

And we're talking about keeping the doors open and the lights on.

We're not talking about high, high level needs, right?

We're talking about basic necessities.

So the haves and the have nots, communities that can pass a referendum and get their tax base behind it can organize, right?

And make sure that their message is clear, then they win a referendum.

And those that are unable to do that,

lose.

But it's really, it's not about winners and losers.

When we're talking about our public schools and our students, we all want students to win.

Pat Krightlow

We're talking to Peggy Woods Olson.

We act president and educator here on our homeroom segment on mornings with Pat Crightlow powered by Up North News across the civic media radio network.

And again, of all the many bills that are in the hopper in Madison,

There there is like I said earlier some attention on a back-to-school sales tax holiday and This is we talked in the last segment about ideas that come up and It's really you really shouldn't have a knee-jerk reaction one way or the other until you learn more and in the the case of a back-to-school sales tax holiday I think that there's a lot to be said for people that say well That's just a gimmick this little window where you don't have a sales tax on school supplies and then others say well

So what why wouldn't you have a holiday on the sales tax for for back-to-school supplies?

Different states handle this in different ways Is it something where we act and educators have a position?

Are you simply monitoring what the legislature is going to do with this idea?

Peggy Words Olson

Yeah, so we're we're closely monitoring where this one is headed I know that you know when we consider the real inflationary pressures that every single family like mine and yours are facing today, you know that

ideas get batted about.

And I also know, as we monitor this one, I know on the ground conversations I'm having in schools with our educators who spend hundreds of dollars of their own money in making sure that their classrooms are equipped with what they need.

Pat Krightlow

And now into some of the other bills that are interesting.

There's one about a proposal to limit flags that can be flown at the state capital, resulting in certain flags like the pride flag, you know, from being raised.

that has some ramifications for flags that can be displayed in classrooms and at schools.

There's access to public high schools for military recruiters and whether they should have more or less access than people like private sector employers.

There are bills there about youth membership groups and how they operate.

Again, with all these things that are there, we've talked about the big picture thing about funding our schools properly.

As you look at these and all the other bills that are out there,

Are there any that strike you as being especially noteworthy that they might either be especially helpful or especially, what's the word I'm looking for?

Not helpful.

When it comes to Jesus trying to do their jobs.

Peggy Words Olson

Well, I think that a lot of times what we see out of Madison are these little niche issues, like you just referenced, that become the focus, right?

When we're really trying to figure out big picture needs.

We've talked a little bit today about the state budget, and I know our priorities with the budget were around

real mental health needs for our students in our classrooms.

How do we make sure that there are enough mental health professionals to help every single student who is in need?

And universal school meals for kids was another piece of what we were really striving for.

I know that my students can't focus in the classroom when they come to school hungry.

So what what we're advocating for the educators across the state is real funding needs that are going to

impact our students in positive ways, not debating flags.

Pat Krightlow

Recruiters at curse of writing curse of writing is another one of them that's come up 24 states currently incorporate curse of writing again There's a debate to be had about its usefulness in you know in internet age or not There there's also you know public inspection of school materials.

There's a sports team participation by gender All of these things again

pale in comparison to the big picture of families who are struggling.

They want their kids to get an education, but either the school's falling apart or they're not getting enough to eat or anything.

And it really has to start with that overarching support or lack of support for public education, which is what you're looking to see, not just in the state budget, but with bills like all of these across the fall session, right?

Peggy Words Olson

Absolutely.

You know, the kind of advocacy we're doing as we talk about is centered on our students in our public schools, how we're going to properly make sure that every student in every public school in Wisconsin has what they need to not just survive, but to thrive.

Pat Krightlow

As we continue looking at some of these bills that are coming up, there's also this one.

Again, when we talk about kids getting enough to eat the healthy school meals for all.

bill which has been brought up year after year after year and I will say again and I will continue to sound like a broken record.

How is this still a thing?

How is it that we are still charging for school meals and allowing some kids to go hungry?

Is there any hope that this is the session that healthy school meals for all finally crosses the finish line?

Peggy Words Olson

Well, I'm an optimist.

And so I like to believe that the healthy school meals for all is a bipartisan support.

When we're talking about feeding kids in our schools to make sure that they can learn, right?

And they have what they need.

No, our research shows that for some kids, the only nutritious meal they get throughout the day will be at school, whether that's breakfast or lunch.

It feels like a bipartisan effort, and let's make this a session where we get it done.

Pat Krightlow

And then finally, one more of these bills deals with a cell phone ban in school.

And I really showed my age the other day, saying that I had assumed as a guy in his 60s that cell phones had already been banned in classrooms.

They've not.

It's like district by district.

There's this talk about a state policy.

a very noteworthy topic among educators, either the usefulness of cell phones in the classroom or the way that they need to be banned because they get in the way of good instruction.

Peggy Words Olson

It's a conversation I have with educators a lot and I know that there are other states that have certainly enacted

legislation around this.

So as a classroom educator, you know, we want to minimize distractions that are impacting students in our schools and in our classrooms.

So this will be definitely one to pay attention to.

Pat Krightlow

Yeah, again, it's kind of educational for me, learning about whether they're a distraction or can be useful in some ways.

Peggy Ward-Solson, WEAC president.

So great to connect with you again.

Happy start of the school year.

Take good care.

We'll talk again soon.

Thanks so much.

Have a great day.

All right.

I'm Pat Krightlow.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

Host

I guess you could call it our question of the day.

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$1.3 billion.

$1.3 billion.

You could do a few things with that.

What would you do?

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Use the text feature.

and text us what you would do with a billion dollars or use the voice note feature on the Civic Media app as well.

Showers and thunderstorms continue working their way to the southeastern corner of Wisconsin.

At this point they've worked their way to their on Green Bay and Manitowoc right now through Fond du Lac, West Bend, Madison, and then down to Dubuque.

Dubuque is familiar to Jimmy Koska, who joins us now, Civic Media News Director, because, well, you weren't in Dubuque proper.

You were in East Dubuque last night for a little JV football, right?

Jimmy Koska

A little bit of JV football.

By the way, Powerball Jackpot, I've got that taken care of.

So you all don't need to think about it.

That's all going to me.

It's all going to you and... It's all going to me.

I'm

Host

hoping...

I want me to include a high speed rail link between basketball and East Dubuque

Jimmy Koska

where you had to do it.

Yikes.

High school sports, when you're in a border county or a border area, frequently take you across state lines.

And this is, this is something we see popular like in sports like basketball, like we have more games where you frequently have events like the border battle, which is put on by Mark Miller, who writes the Wisconsin basketball yearbook.

When it comes to football, it's a little more rare, but if you like in northern Wisconsin, a lot of teams cross the border and play in the UP.

In fact, Hurley was part of a conference that was mostly just UP schools for a long.

time up there in the northern part of the state.

Western Wisconsin, you're in Minnesota, Southern Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa.

These are things that happen when you're bordering.

It's kind of neat to be able to play it in different states.

Sometimes there's even different rules.

In basketball, Wisconsin goes by halves, but if you go to Illinois, you're playing in quarters, and now you'll have shot clock.

So there's some really cool things that happen when you get to play across the border.

Wait a minute.

Host

Are there still places that don't have a shot clock?

Jimmy Koska

Yeah, one of those places is Wisconsin.

So Wisconsin didn't even get it out to the board of control this year.

It failed in committee.

Where in years past, they've actually gotten it all the way to saying, we're going to have a shot clock, and then they immediately pulled it back at Wisconsin because so many people complained about the kind of the immediacy of it, the lack of run up to it, and the fact that shot clocks would cost schools money.

But now a lot of schools.

Oh, that's right.

Putting in shot clocks as they built new gyms.

Sort of waiting for this to happen since all of our border states now have shock clocks and

Host

basketball.

Yeah, I mean, my goodness, this is like me with the cell phones all over again, me going, how is this a thing?

How are there no shot clocks?

I mean, obviously, if it was a bigger problem, we'd be hearing about it.

But I'm not familiar with anybody just holding the ball for like two minutes at a stretch.

And we're not talking like a 24 second shot clock here.

What I mean, what kind of times are we talking about it in other states at the high school level?

Jimmy Koska

Yeah, 35 is kind of the standard.

So that's, you know, that's, that's where it is.

It's a little bit longer than the college shot.

which is 30, so 35 in high school.

And that's, you know, like I said, it's happening in states neighboring to us where it's either on the way to full go or it's already in, but Wisconsin, we're still a couple of years away.

The thing that'll make it happen though is that it's now part of the NFHS handbook, you know, as the way sports are, because most states do have it.

So Wisconsin will get it, whether or not they have to be dragged along to it, like they have in a lot of other rule changes in the NFHS.

Wisconsin...

It tends up being usually one of the last states to adopt new things, whether it was NIL being one of the last nine states to get that.

For this, they might be one of the last eight or nine to do it too.

There's already over 30 states with a shot clock.

Host

Well, I mean, you don't want to rush into anything.

No,

Jimmy Koska

absolutely not.

Host

Heaven forbid.

We're talking to Jimmy Koska, Civic Media Sports Director here.

We of course have not just high school football and more of it this weekend on many civic media stations.

But of course, we've got your college ranks, the Badgers taking on Middle Tennessee this Saturday, coverage begins at one o'clock on stations in Richland Center, Emery, Wisconsin Rapids Rippin.

They opened the season last week.

What's what's the word on Badger football this year?

Jimmy Koska

Well, hey, I mean, getting a shutout in your first game is always pleasant.

And then this week, in these buy games, what you're looking for is to just kind of develop your team.

And the Badgers certainly need it after last year's season, which was very disappointing, I think, for many.

So they get to play Middle Tennessee State, a team that lost last week to an FCS opponent.

Badgers are.

depending on what you look for touchdown favorite to this game.

So this is a good spot for the Badgers to develop, especially with the back of quarterback going.

But yeah, the Badgers are going this week, as are the Packers.

So this is kind of that first week of real football, right?

Like where you have high schools already in.

After this week in high school football, you're a third of the way through the regular season.

Badgers football is on to week two, and then the NFL is week one.

So we are in September.

We are full go on football season right now.

Host

And your first reaction when you heard the news that Mike Parsons was coming to the Packers from Dallas?

Jimmy Koska

Well, as a civic media employee, it was, well, I'm in the middle of high school football practice, so I can't do the updates.

Mike Clements was covering a presser in Green Bay.

So our very old Luke Mather stepped to the plate to get the breaking news alert out about that.

So that was my first initial thought.

But from an on the field perspective, if you're the Packers, you do this 100 times out of 100.

You get one of the NFL's premier talents, one of the, you know, somebody with a unique talent.

in the NFL and you get them for a couple of first round draft picks and a pretty good player, Kenny Clark, for your interior line.

You just think back to like what the 49ers gave up for Trey Lance at quarterback.

They give up three first round draft picks.

So the Packers getting Mike and Parsons for two first round draft picks and a pretty good player.

I mean, you do that deal every time.

That's amazing.

Host

I pause long enough to bring...

Parker Olsen back into the mix just to say, I hope you caught in the middle of his answer there where I said, oh yeah.

But when he said, Packers would do that a hundred times out of a hundred and me right away with the, oh

Jimmy Koska

yeah.

Oh yeah.

Host

That's gonna be, that's our, that's our new thing.

It's not, it's not a new thing.

We're just finally noticing how often we say it here in the Midwest.

So anyway, oh yeah.

Jimmy's here.

And do you want to give a little 10 second input on how we started the hour?

Jacob Mazurowski, should he be in the bullpen?

Jimmy Koska

Hey, you know what?

This point of the year, I think everybody's kind of a candidate for that.

You have to do a lot of shuffling ahead of the playoffs.

And the Brewers are going to be the playoffs, right?

That's only a month away, so.

Two.

Oh, yeah.

Host

Yep.

Jimmy, thank you so much.

Brewers versus Phillies coverage begins at 6.05 on stations across civic media.

Good to see you, Jimmy.

Have a great day.

Jimmy Koska

All right, take care guys.

Host

All right, we've got Earl Ingram standing by and Melissa Boldoff with our climate check.

That's all ahead on these mornings with pack right low powered by up north news.

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Pat Crichtlow (host)

Good morning.

Welcome back once again, 8.06 on this Wednesday morning, September 3rd.

Nice to have you here up North.

Parker Olsen is our producer down in Madison Studio A2.

meteorologist Brittany Merleau is standing by as is Earl Ingram.

We will also be talking to Melissa Baldoff with our climate check that and much more still ahead.

And of course, we're asking the question today, what would you do if you won tonight's Powerball jackpot and estimated $1.3 billion?

That's all coming up.

Brittany would have no use for the money because she

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

does

Pat Crichtlow (host)

she does whatever she wants right now.

She wants to go kayaking.

She's gonna go kayaking.

She wants

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

to

Pat Crichtlow (host)

camp at EAA.

She is a simple girl.

who just,

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

you

Pat Crichtlow (host)

know, could take that billion dollars and maybe do a little something extra.

But, you know, by and large, you have all you need, right?

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

I do.

I don't know.

I guess I would just buy property all over the country and rent it out and stay in it when I wanted to and get to travel even more, right?

See, travel.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

Yep.

Travel

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

is always

Pat Crichtlow (host)

a good thing, right?

Earl Ingram

It's good business

Pat Crichtlow (host)

right there.

Yeah.

Yeah, all right.

Throughout the course of the show, we've been watching a line of showers and some thunderstorms making their way across the state there.

Pretty much getting into the southeastern third of the state at this point right now, Brittany, right?

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

Yeah, sure are.

Madison, Milwaukee, it's on your back doorstep.

It's starting to leave Green Bay right now, but parts of the Fox Valley like Fond du Lac, Oshkosh, you're still seeing some of that rainfall.

It's not too major, none are severe.

We've only seen 30 mile per hour wind gusts with this system and pea-sized hail in some places.

Otherwise, as it passes, the main rain event will slow down.

Scattered showers and some small storms could still spark later this afternoon and into this evening, especially north in the state because those winds are whipping.

They're out of the northwest now for the northern half of the state.

Polling in that cooler air mass where highs today far northeast are only going to hit the mid 40s.

A lot of us throughout the state 50s to 60s will be our highs and we're hitting those right now.

We're going to stay steady throughout the afternoon and then crash tonight as the clouds clear.

So we are looking at temperatures far north hitting the low 30s to mid 30s.

So a frost advisory will probably go out later on this afternoon.

If you've got sensitive plants, vegetation, gardens, things like that.

You're going to want to make sure it's OK through the overnight.

And then as we go through tomorrow, still looking at a lot of sunshine to start the day, high temperatures in those low 50s to low 60s in the afternoon, breezy winds making it feel a little worse.

And then we've got another system, a blob of rain moving into tomorrow night.

And it'll clear for Friday, leaving us Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

Nice, dry and sunny.

but still below average hanging out in those low to mid sixties.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

Okay, but again, you know, dry.

And so if

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

you've got

Pat Crichtlow (host)

an event, I mean, you can you can put on another layer.

And

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

that

Pat Crichtlow (host)

layer, that layer isn't a raincoat or a poncho.

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

Oh, that's nice to leave it at home after today.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

Right.

And not even a parka yet, you know, we're in Wisconsin, and the hoodie is always nearby, just in

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

case.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

So it is.

All right, Brittany, have a great day.

Thanks so much.

All right.

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Get yourself every episode and we'll get into one of his latest episodes in just a sec, but we've got some other news headlines to get to.

Earl, how are you today?

Earl Ingram

I'm doing fine, Pat.

How are you?

Pat Crichtlow (host)

I'm doing fine as well, although I was, I was about to give a little promo for the Courier Newsroom, Cam Stevenson newsletter below the Beltway.

And it's all about what Cam is covering up on Capitol Hill.

But I think it's a good transition into our discussion here, because in today's newsletter below the Beltway, he talks about how a court has ordered troops out of Los Angeles, but the ruling won't apply to the National Guard in DC.

And of course, we've heard the

president of the United States talking just yesterday about sending troops into Chicago, again, for no real good reason.

Some great remarks from Illinois governor JB Pritzker in response.

But we also know Milwaukee, like Minneapolis and others, they're on this list.

In Trump's head of places where he'd love to have troops and you even had the head of the Milwaukee police union Saying he would welcome troops in on the city streets of Milwaukee.

I'm sure that's got people talking Earl

Earl Ingram

Well, the mayor of the city of Milwaukee Carolee Johnson responded immediately to what JD Vance Basically before even having a conversation with the mayor he talked

about well this is what we're going to do and you know we want to send the mayor I mean the national guard into the city of Milwaukee and you know do we have problems in the city of Milwaukee yeah we do I mean clearly when you look at some things that are taking place across this nation

There are people who struggle in cities across this nation, both rural and urban.

And it's been an ongoing problem in our nation for a long time.

Poverty is a horrible, horrible reality.

And the wealthiest nation on earth should be able to eradicate poverty.

If we wanted to, we certainly could get it done.

And so what comes along with poverty

is hopelessness and I'm not making excuses for people who do horrendous things but you know I've never you know I was never hungry I was never homeless so I don't you know I don't understand you know how how again in the wealthiest nation on earth we allow that I said all that to say this when you win

the crimes that happen in cities.

Does the city of Milwaukee and Chicago and other places where this dynamic exists need support from a government?

Yes, absolutely.

But when the only answer is law enforcement, that's not going to get it done.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

No, it's more of a police state.

And it strikes you as it strikes me as this is not about really helping with crime.

This is really it's not about partnership at all.

This is about control that we we could either help provide resources that address crime, or we could attempt to control you.

And so instead of substantive legislation that would address, you know, the epidemic of guns on our streets.

We're going to put more guns on the streets in the form of armed uniformed soldiers and masked agents and things like that.

More guns plus thoughts and prayers equals no solution.

It's just all talk and in my mind it's all about control.

Earl Ingram

Well, it's about control.

It's about politics because clearly Donald Trump has decided that this is

the most important, one of the most important issues facing our nation today.

And I would argue that it's not, if you're one who has been impacted and affected by violence and by crime, I'm sure you really don't think it's a good thing.

But I'll tell you, it's not the number one issue.

And it's certainly, you know, for the disciples who support Donald Trump, they can jump on this bandwagon and ride this with all the other things that are going on around us that I think are even more important.

This takes all the air out the room.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

Yeah, we're talking to Earl Ingram and we'll talk about the what's going on with Earl Ingram podcast coming up in just a sec here, but as we Wrap up our conversation about troops and things like that coming back to what the Illinois governor JB Pritzker had to say yesterday I did want to note that one of the things he said is

based on the way things have gone so far.

In Washington, DC, they were there basically picking up trash, not really addressing crime.

In LA, they weren't doing much there either.

And he said, you know, there seems to be this pattern where after about 30 days, after Trump got all the attention that he wants, the tropes are quietly, you know, they move on to the next thing.

And that's, you know, they're eventually going to move on to Chicago, maybe Milwaukee, other things.

And while

that's an interesting pattern that it's all a PR stunt for 30 days or so and then they're quietly withdrawn.

The point is still there that this is about looking at what can he get away with in terms of putting the military on the streets of the United States.

And it's not a great precedent we should be setting in Chicago, Milwaukee or anywhere.

Earl Ingram

Well, it hasn't historically I'm old enough that I remember back in 1968 when I was a

12-year-old young man, a young boy, watching the National Guard and the tanks roll down the city streets where I lived several blocks away.

I remember seeing the armed National Guard and all of those things, but that was because the city's over 300 cities went up in flames after the assassination of Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King.

So I've seen the National Guard

and armed troops standing on street corners in my lifetime and I don't think it's time to see that again.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

No, it's it doesn't give a you know, any kind of a look of safety.

It's it's more about intimidation.

And like I said, about power and control over on the podcast, which again, you can find over at civic media dot us and then click on shows.

And you address a problem.

Again, when you talk about those kids who are in in dire straits and in desperate situations, often end up in foster care.

But then what happens is they age out of the foster care system.

And

It doesn't seem like there's a bunch of resources there for them.

And is that kind of what this episode is addressing?

Earl Ingram

So my wife and I are treating the foster parents and we have been for 22 years.

And so when I realized and talked with these young people.

about what they were faced with.

It's hard rendering.

It's heartbreaking because this happens all over this nation.

And with Donald Trump in office right now, there's conversations and talk about even cutting even more out of those programs.

But how does it make sense that young people who are trying to find their way and have had some tough struggles in their lives, they don't get to pick their parents, and now they've struggled and fought to try to rectify

their lives and turn them around, all of a sudden we pull a plug on them.

I think it's heartless.

I think it's short-sightedness.

And, you know, when if the one thing about our nation is we don't seem to value the lives of all children, then I think that's just a negative reality in this nation.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

Well, it's about not valuing the children and their care and their safety.

For example, the mass shootings that go on in schools.

It's about education.

It's about jobs and job training.

In other words, there are all these things that our politicians could be doing.

There are

solutions.

There are ideas for solutions there.

And we're always hearing, well, we can't afford that.

We can't afford that.

And yet somehow we can afford troops and tanks and everything on the streets of American cities.

So I guess the point I'm trying to make is, yeah, there are potential ways to address this.

I'm just getting really tired of hearing we can't afford it when they're willing to spend their resources on other things like troops.

Earl Ingram

Well, the insanity in it is, you know, children grow up to be adults.

And we talk about

adults who are wayward and we build more and more prisons and we lock people up and we don't realize the simplest solution to that is nurture children when they're young doesn't matter you know what their family background is and if their families

can't do what's right by them.

We are in a better situation.

If we address it while they're young, while their children, it is cheaper, then it certainly makes things a lot better as they become adults.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

What's going on with Earl Ingram?

The podcast is available at civicmedia.us.

Click on shows, get through all the episodes, a lot of great episodes in there that you can catch up on, many of them timeless and worth your time anytime that you can get subscribed to it.

Earl, thank you so much for your time today.

Hope you have a great day.

Earl Ingram

years well.

Pat Crichtlow (host)

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Pat (host)

Well, it's a bald off just around the corner here with our climate check.

But first we've been talking about how would you handle $1.3 billion if you were to happen to win the Powerball jackpot tonight?

Alicia puts up on YouTube.

I did the math.

I only need quote unquote $54 million for the rest of my life.

So the rest would be for other people.

Alicia, I've calculated my retirement savings and it's nowhere near 54 million.

So I don't know what it is you need over there besides, you know, buying a fleet of pontoons or something.

But I hope you get that 54 million and then be able to spend the rest of the $1 billion.

I know Melissa Balov might like to spend some of it on a generator because with all the thunderstorms rolling through, Melissa is without power right now but joins us by phone.

How are you doing, Melissa?

Melissa Balov (guest)

I'm doing all right.

You know, luckily the weather is beautiful today, aside from the rain, temperature-wise, lovely conditions.

So, you know, I'm able to sit on my front porch where it's not dark, because it's pretty cloudy outside.

At least I have a little bit of light out here.

Pat (host)

but heck of a way to start the school year with a power outage.

Melissa Balov (guest)

It sure is.

Yep.

The, right.

The 16 year old left for his second day, a junior year and was back within 10 minutes with the news that school would not be starting until 10 o'clock.

Um, so, uh, fortunately, um, he is a driver and he is driving to go get me some coffee.

Pat (host)

Perfect.

See, isn't that, that's the nice part when they get the licenses, the usefulness.

that comes into play here.

Melissa Balov (guest)

Very, very useful here.

Pat (host)

Of course, that

Melissa Balov (guest)

means getting getting something for him and

Pat (host)

one of his

Melissa Balov (guest)

friends.

But that's that's a.

attacks I'm willing to pay.

Pat (host)

Exactly.

You know, you you fly all by and get yourself something nice from Tony on YouTube up in Ashland.

Our school lost power yesterday on the first day of school.

After a squirrel got zapped being someplace he shouldn't have been didn't have power all day long.

So it's not just the thunderstorms that can do this.

What about you 1.3 billion dollars if if you happen to win Powerball tonight, what kinds of things would you like to do if you were suddenly independently wealthy?

Melissa Balov (guest)

Well, of course, all of the things that everybody would do immediately, pay off our mortgage, make sure our kids and my nieces and nephews are all set up for college, all those practical things, travel more time with the extended family.

And then my do-gooder self would definitely start a super PAC.

I don't know where it would be focused.

Pat (host)

But I would

Melissa Balov (guest)

definitely make some significant investments maybe around clean energy investment and improving resilience and educating people about why this is important and reminding them who is responsible for

the greater effects that we're feeling for more outages like the one we're experiencing right now because the grids are overloading and we're not getting that support and investment from the federal government to take those steps that everybody knows we need to take to improve the grid, to improve our resilience, and to give people more stability as we face continued negative effects from climate change.

Pat (host)

Well, I mean you know that and I know that and pretty much the entire science community knows that but the headline in the New York Times says scientists denounce Trump administration climate report More than 85 scientists American and international have condemned a Trump report that calls the threat of climate change overblown Saying the analysis is riddled with errors misrepresentations and cherry-picked data in other words misinformation which is

is what they do best, Melissa.

Again, for a work of fiction, you don't see a lot of that coming out of places like the White House, but you sure are with a report this ridiculous.

Melissa Balov (guest)

Well, let's clarify here.

It used to be that you didn't see works of fiction coming out of the White House, but that's...

Pretty much all you see out of this one.

Oh, yeah.

Let's start with the biggest work of fiction right now, which is that Donald Trump is just fine when everyone with any amount of eyes and ears can tell that he is not fine.

So the misinformation, the disinformation, the outright lies are par for the course in this administration.

And it really

I think it's disappointing, though, to see them just completely double down on this.

And it continues to make our country an absolute laughing stock globally.

When you know that the rest of the world is taking this seriously, they are using every opportunity they have.

pulling every lever at their disposal to take steps to mitigate these harmful effects.

And they are looking at it also at the same time as an opportunity to strengthen their economies, be set up for the future.

And we're just continuing to fall backwards on those on those metrics, while also, you know, denying the science, denying the science around around climate change, you know, denying

science around vaccines, around

Pat (host)

any

Melissa Balov (guest)

other health outcomes.

Whenever this administration is confronted with a set of facts that do not align with what their goals are to enrich themselves and billionaires in some way, they will lie about what those facts are, ignore them completely.

you know, or just make up an entirely new set of, you know, quote unquote, alternative facts,

Pat (host)

right?

So I was going to say, that's where we're going next is the alternative facts.

Pretty, pretty par for the course, which is why we don't work people.

If you were expecting us to go through point by point.

No, it's just a classic work of fiction that we wanted to call attention to in this week's climate check report.

Melissa, I hope you get power again real soon.

Enjoy the coffee in the meantime.

here.

Thank you.

All right.

This is mornings with pa up north news live from

Pat Kraitlow

We got you for just a sec there, didn't we?

Thinking this was taught all the time.

It's not.

As part of today's history lesson, which is at its new time of 6.35 on weekday mornings, we mentioned that on this day in 1990, George Michael released his...

Listen Without Prejudice album, his second solo album and Freedom 90.

The song there is the one that you hear with one Mr. Todd Alba on weekday afternoons from two to four across the Civic Media Radio Network.

Let's see, who's Todd got today on his show?

Oh, Slim Pickens today.

Some has been named Pat Crichtlow, host of warnings with Pat Crichtlow will be on at 206.

Oh, wait, he

Redeems himself with Trig V. Olson, senior advisor at the Lincoln Project, also at 206.

So catch me and Trig V on Todd Albus program coming up later this afternoon.

All right, looking at the Maggie Dawn Show from four to six.

State Senator Jody Habish-Sinneken will be joining Maggie at 4.30 today to talk about the new proposed legislation by Democrats to fund the Knowles Nelson Stewardship Program.

You'll recall that's the conservation program that many Republicans would like to kill or at least severely micromanage.

And it is a program that risks running out of funding unless some kind of action is taken.

There is a Republican proposal.

There's a Democratic bill as well.

And Senator Jody Habers-Sinneken will be talking about that with Maggie Dawn.

Coming up at 4.30.

Matt Naranair follows this program here starting at the top of the hour.

And there will be a discussion at 9.30.

So one hour from now about mail-in voting and voting machines with guest Sarah Gonski.

And then later, at 10.05, you can hear from Darren Von Rudin, president of the Wisconsin Farmers Union, is going to be joining Jane Mattenair and Greg Bach for Mattenair on Air.

And of course, if you can't stick around for all of those things, you can catch us as a podcast.

Every one of these shows head over to Spotify and subscribe to Mornings with Pat Kraitlo and all the other shows.

You can do it as Apple as well, or head over to the website, civicmedia.us to learn more.

In the history section today, a couple of other notes that we followed as we do every day, we talked about how it was on this day in 1929.

It was kind of the peak of the roaring 20s with the Dow Jones industrial average reaching an all time high in 1929 up to that point.

And the the Dow would not reach that level again for a very long time.

because the crash of 1929 happened the following month, ushering in the Great Depression.

And again, for all of these history notes, tune in at 635.

Although, I guess for me, Parker, the one that really stands out still is that Charlie Sheen turned 60 years old today.

I mean, yeah, man epitomizes the phrase ridden hard and put away wet.

But somehow,

Parker Olson

hey, good for him.

He's still kicking.

Pat Kraitlow

Well, and you know,

There's there's Willie Nelson.

There's Keith Richards There's this ongoing list of people that we really thought would be gone by now and Yet, you know, they're still with us.

Parker Olson

There's still here.

Yeah, just letting you know.

They're not doing a lot.

They're just letting you know

Pat Kraitlow

At least they're there as well.

Yes today on the national day calendar as well.

This is national bowling league day.

Oh Yeah, okay

That is the sound of a man in Parker Olson, who I'm guessing has never been part of a bowling league.

Parker Olson

No, I did do fairly often with some friends, but certainly not a league.

Pat, could I say this?

Yes, Parker.

I think you look like a guy who would be in a bowling league, has been in a bowling league.

Pat Kraitlow

You would be wrong.

I haven't been part of a bowling league, though, I suppose I, I do get what you're trying to say.

And yes, I do look old, but no, not to the point where I was on a bowling league.

I'm only now just starting to wear, you know, the bowling league shirts, you know, the kind like like Charlie Sheen always

Parker Olson

wore on two and a

Pat Kraitlow

half men, you know, kind of that retro Jetsons meets the Flintstones kind of look to it.

But no, not not in a bowling league, although

I would dare say I've done a lot more bowling than you know, your generation has done bowling is not the activity that it used to be.

No,

Parker Olson

it's kind of sad.

It's a fun thing to do.

Pat Kraitlow

Well, and it leads me to this point, it got me thinking when I saw that this was bowling league day, and that people just don't participate in bowling leagues the way that they used to.

It reminded me of a book that I'd read a couple of years ago, that I wanted to share again.

And it's

It's such an interesting title.

It's called Bowling Alone.

And it's all about the collapse and the hopeful revival of the American community.

The book was written in 2000 by Robert Putnam.

And it surveys the decline of social capital in the United States since 1950.

Okay, social capital.

What do we mean by that?

According to the author, it's all the forms of in-person social intercourse.

upon which Americans used to create and educate and enrich the fabric of their social lives.

And he argues that this undermines what we're going through now the active civic engagement that a strong democracy requires from its citizens.

And I know you're saying, wow, we're really connecting some dots here.

We're going from bowling and bowling leagues to

whether democracy is threatened by the collapse of some of this so-called social capital.

And again, it was a fascinating book because he raises some great points about how we don't gather the way that we used to.

in terms of bowling leagues or look at a lot of these social clubs that are out there now, rotary and optimists and Lions clubs.

And that's not to say that the people that are in them now aren't doing worthy things.

Of course, they are.

They're great.

I loved my time in rotary.

And, you know, maybe that will be one of my retirement efforts is to get more involved in rotary or some some other thing like that.

But it's because we don't

gather together as much, that we don't have that kind of social capital, that we're not having the discussions that would essentially lead to better informed voters who would be a check on some of our worst impulses.

By going it alone in so many ways, just you and your screen, just me and my screen, just him and his screen.

And we're cherry picking what we want to see as we're doom scrolling through social media.

So instead of social capital, building things together, we're all stuck in social media and we're just individually ingesting things and sharing them, you know, hoping that people see it.

I'm hoping that people are listening.

I'm hoping that people are, you know, reading the things that I post.

But it's not the same thing as gathering in a group and working together.

And that's what the author was trying to convey to folks is that we need to look for ways that we can again gather together and build things.

And the most important thing when you're working on a project, when you're building something, is to overcome your disagreements.

There's never been one group project that didn't have something that you had to debate and somebody had to maybe compromise on or discuss different ways of getting things done.

That is meaningful engagement.

It relies on face-to-face conversations.

It agrees, it depends on an agreed set of facts.

And we seem to have the the opposite of that right now, that instead of having that meaningful engagement, there's a lot of meaningless engagement.

Congressman Derek Van Orden is the poster child for meaningless engagement right now.

He's engaged on social media, but it's always insults or name calling belittling others, or spreading misinformation about something.

There isn't

sufficient discussion and compromise on the kinds of things that need to be done.

And there is definitely not shared agreement on a set of facts.

Like we just covered with Melissa Baldoff in our climate check segment, you have now a White House that is preparing its own alternate facts and clinging to them the way a reporter clings to a lamppost in a hurricane.

And in a hurricane of facts and science that are out there, these folks are clinging to the light post of their own building of the alternative facts that are there.

And it's to our own detriment when we're not working together.

Here's Alicia putting up on YouTube.

I'm loving my time in the DAV, Disabled American Vets, people getting together is so good for your health.

And it very much is.

So the author of Bowling Alone

And again, this book was written in 2000 has has this excerpt that I wanted to share.

I challenge America's journalists, internet gurus and media moguls, along with viewers like you and me.

Let us find ways to ensure that by 2010.

Again, remember, the book was written in 2000.

Let us find ways to ensure that by 2010.

Americans will spend less leisure time sitting passively alone in front of glowing screens and more time in active connection with our fellow citizens.

Let us foster new forms of electronic entertainment and communication that reinforce community engagement rather than forestalling it.

The recent flurry of interest in civic journalism, he writes, could be one strand to this strategy.

If it is interpreted not as a substitute for genuine grassroots participation, but as a soapbox for such participation, the extraordinary power of television can encourage as well as discourage civic involvement.

Let us challenge those talented people who preside over America's entertainment industry to create new forms of entertainment that draw the viewer off the couch and into the community.

Well, how'd we do?

In the time since then, there've already been some toxic comments put up on the comment sections over at the Up North News Facebook page, because that's that's how it works.

Now, we've got people who are proud trolls sitting in front of their glowing screens who need to get out and as the kids say, touch grass.

Now, here's the thing.

When it says when it when the author said back in 2000 let's foster new forms of electronic entertainment and communication that reinforce community engagement Well, that's civic media That's up north news.

That's courier newsroom and a whole host of other places as well.

I hope That are saying hey, we're glad you're reading this.

We're glad you're watching this We're glad you're listening to this but get out there

into your community.

We've highlighted so many different groups that are engaged in their community.

They're either knocking on doors or they're they're making videos and other information that people will see on social media, or they're crafting talk shows on the radio or podcasts that remind people that we should still have a shared set of facts.

And that we actually all agree on some very common standards.

We just have this impediment right now of politicians who don't understand that we collectively as a majority overwhelmingly support women's reproductive health rights and gun safety measures and fair maps and not suppressing voters.

And on and on it goes.

Now the politicians that are impeding all that progress, they're still there, they still have money, they still have power, and they are counting on people to continue just doom scrolling and not increasing their civic engagement in the community.

So even though we did not make that goal that the author laid out by 2010 to maybe spend less time sitting in front of our glowing screens,

Let's at least acknowledge that there are people that are trying to get more of us up off the couch Give you good information while you are reading while you are listening but then to step up and again get to know your neighbors touch some of that grass and Bring a friend to the voting booth next time along as well

Coming up, we'll have some final news and notes from Lake WSOTA, including a visit with James Kelly, Civic Media reporter here in the Chippewa Falls newsroom.

That's all ahead live from Lake WSOTA here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Pat Crite

Remember, you can follow Up North News on social media.

We're now on Blue Sky as an alternative to Twitter, but we're still on Twitter as well.

Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, all the platforms where you'll find us.

You'll find a lot of civic media programming there as well.

And where there's civic media programming, there's civic media news.

And where there is civic media news, there is James Kelly out there in Chippewa Falls in the newsroom there.

James, how are you today?

I'm great.

How you doing?

Good.

Did you enjoy the long holiday weekend?

James Kelly

I did enjoy the long holiday weekend as much as I could.

I did do some work on Monday, on Labor Day.

I know.

I'm not supposed to, but it is what it is.

Yes.

Pat Crite

I

James Kelly

mean,

Pat Crite

the Tuesday morning show didn't just happen.

There had to be something done on Monday for that as well.

So yeah, I completely understand.

I was commenting yesterday on how Governor Tony Evers

Right before JD Vance arrived in La Crosse late last week, the vice president, Tony Evers had ready a big breakdown of costs of the Trump mega bill.

And what that told me was that Tony Evers is not going quietly.

He's not like, well, I'm retired and now he's just gonna phone it in.

He's still making the rounds, the school year's getting going.

And that included a stop in Altoona recently, right?

James Kelly

Yeah, he visited Altoona Elementary School yesterday and actually did say he was asked, you know, are you going to back anyone in the next Democratic primary for governor and said no at this point, but was asked, you know, how important is it for those candidates to also be out here doing everything that you've done over the last six or so years where you are actually at schools and at these facilities and said that's where the real work gets done.

Pat Crite

It's true.

I mean you you can only do so much behind a desk in your office as a governor, as a legislator, whatever you have to again get outside.

and talk to people.

And Evers has been doing that as part of a statewide tour for the first day of school, visiting places, listening to people, and then incorporating those things into your legislative agenda.

It's basically how he keeps coming up with his state budget bill year after year, and he's continuing to do that now even in his coming up on his eighth and final year in office.

James Kelly

Yeah, he actually did also receive a presentation from the district about

how they've increased their student achievement over the last five years with kind of new models, including having special education teachers just in the regular classroom with their students.

So they're there all day.

So, you know, things that you could maybe take from this school and apply to other districts.

Exactly.

Pat Crite

Let's see.

So let's talk about housing and affordable housing and the amount of housing stock that's in any given community.

It is something that's talked about in many, if not most communities in our state.

Washburn County is no exception.

James Kelly

Yeah, they recently completed an eight month survey of community housing needs and found much like much of the Northwest region that they need more workforce housing specifically.

They're proposing creating 300 new market rate rental units in the county or 250 modest first time home buyer type homes.

They have open jobs there.

They just don't have the places for people to live to take those jobs, which is unfortunately becoming increasingly common in this region.

Pat Crite

Well, it really is.

And it is an economic development issue, which is why you see the business community in many of these hometowns inserting themselves into the issue and trying to be helpful in some way, shape, or form.

Up in Burnett County now as we continue our review of some Northwest Wisconsin headlines Burnett County is certainly no stranger to the the online dangers that are out there to the young residents of their community.

What are they talking about up there?

James Kelly

Yeah, they'll be hosting a panel next Wednesday from 5.30 to 6.15 at the Siren Schools Auditorium.

It's going to involve some law enforcement officials and some parents whose children have actually been victimized by online schemes, including Brittany Byrd, whose son Brayden became the namesake for Brayden's law, which increased penalties for people convicted of sex distortion leading to suicide.

So it'll be an informational session trying to give parents a lot of the tools they need to identify when their children might be targeted.

by an online threat and what to do next.

Pat Crite

All right.

And then last but not least here, of course, we did have Labor Day, which in Eau Claire means Labor Fest over at Phoenix Park.

Once again, some good attendance there.

James Kelly

Yeah, over 200 people for this event.

Chippewa Valley Indivisible helped organize it and did kind of a head count.

State Senator Jeff Smith actually mentioned that the turnout was really good this year compared to when they first started doing it at Phoenix Park in 2011 after Act 10 was passed into law.

It kind of dwindled over the years attendance-wise.

People didn't really feel like they were making a difference, but this year there were certainly a lot more people out there.

They also had a Wisconsin State AFL-CIO President Stephanie Bloomingdale give a speech.

And she kind of described wealth inequality in a way I think relates to all Wisconsinites, which was imagine 100 people come into a cookout with one brat for each person, but 10 people take 70 of those brats and 50 of the people have to share three.

Pat Crite

Well, I mean, if you're going to illustrate inequality, I mean, you could do worse than to pick brats as

James Kelly

a

Pat Crite

symbol of that.

That is quintessentially Wisconsin right there.

Stephanie Bloomingdale, she knows how to frame an argument.

James Kelly

especially with a barbecue happening just, you know, 200, 300 feet away.

Pat Crite

Exactly.

I love it.

James Kelly follows these stories and more for Civic Media out of our Bureau in Chippewa Falls.

James, thanks so much.

Good to talk to you.

Have a wonderful day.

Thanks,

James Kelly

Pat.

Have a

Pat Crite

good

James Kelly

one.

Pat Crite

All right.

A reminder that tomorrow on the program, we're going to be talking to Congressman Mark Pokan.

Congress is back in session.

And there is a lot going on already.

There were members of Congress yesterday that were talking to some of the victims of Predator Jeffrey Epstein and their frustration with the investigation and the lack of progress toward justice and to what degree the president of the United States might be an obstruction to that progress.

There's the chance of a government shutdown.

I know.

Stop me if you've heard this before.

There is the threat of a government shutdown at the end of this month, because once again, Republicans will not be able to pass a spending plan without Democratic votes.

But of course, they're going to try to job as many Republicans as Democrats as possible by putting things in that most Democrats simply would not, should not, could not support.

So we'll talk to Congressman Pocan about his feelings on how things are shaping up there.

We'll talk to Sean O'Malley about your money and the markets, and we'll visit

with Joseph Heckey as well.

Plus our usual daily check-in with some of our civic media friends.

They include Todd Alba and Chad Holmes as well.

My thanks to Peggy Words Olson for being one of our guests today.

Also to to and Peg's nephew Parker Olson for being here and to meteorologist Brittany Merleau and to you as well for being here this morning.

I'm Pat Crite, the founding editor of Up North News.

Up North News is the Wisconsin outlet for Courier, a pro-democracy news network.

Enjoy the rest of your Wednesday.

We'll see you Thursday morning, bright and early 6am.

right here up north.

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