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Hey, good morning.
It is 7 0 6.
Nice to have you back here Up North on this Thursday morning, August 21st.
Parker Olson is producing this fine program down in Madison Studio A2 and meteorologist Brittany Merlot is standing by.
As are a lot of you, Parker, we were casting aspersions before.
Some of our usual textures and commenters weren't with us right off the top.
And Alicia made sure to put up on YouTube.
I was driving.
And that's
what we?
want.
We don't know.
We do not want people texting while driving.
So I'm glad that she waited till she was somewhere where she didn't have to keep her hands of 10 and two on the wheel and could let us know that she was there.
And any of you folks can join us.
Just head over to the Up North News or the Civic Media Facebook or YouTube pages.
We'd love to have you along.
Just as we do every day from Rob and Tigerton, who says to Brittany, as always, good morning from Tigerton.
It is sunny with light fog 56 degrees.
I had three yards to mow and
Tigerton, then a doctor's appointment in Shawno.
He says, last night, I was in Neopitt for a meet and greet with the four Democrats looking to potentially take on Congressman Tony Weed.
That would be in Northeast Wisconsin's eighth congressional district.
Kristen Lyrely, he says, was the emcee of last night's event.
And he took pictures of the event of people giving speeches.
And I know that Kristen told me she was looking forward to Rob coming out there and being the photographer for that event.
We mentioned in our history segment the birth anniversary of the late Jack Buck and Rob says that Jack Buck called Bart Starr's quarterback sneak for the winning touchdown for CBS in the 1967 NFL Championship game that we all know as the Ice Bowl.
So I did not know Jack Buck was on the call for that one.
Brittany, the stuff we learn here on
this program,?
you know, I mean, we should be getting one of those educational licenses, you know, for all the stuff that we teach people.
throughout
the?
course of the day.
Yeah.
Did you, you did make it to WFHR yesterday for their anniversary?
I did make it.
I was like the grand finale.
The headlight.
You're the Jimi Hendrix of
all the main?
events.
I had
to when I showed up, I was like, Oh, those clouds look like they're going to rain.
If I show up and I bring the rain, I can't go in.
Oh,
yes.
That is not
a bad
hazard, isn't it?
Yeah.
Oh, so I had the very early shift there in Wisconsin Rapids.
Todd Alba had a great time in the parking lot there for their big celebration of their 85th anniversary.
And then you kind of help take
things home there and I am I am guessing confidently that the people at WFHR and WIRI were as sweet and friendly when you got there as they were early in the morning.
Yep, even after standing out there all day in the sun, you know, hey, hey, you agreed.
We still hit yesterday.
It was nice.
It was
sorry.
It
was while we
have it.
It was great.
It was a great little road trip.
And by the way, I took a different route home up through Marshfield so that I could get up onto 29 and make a stop in Nasonville and get the get their cheese curds.
They got the bag of cheese curds right here.
These are I'll try not to squeak too much while you're doing the weather.
But it's that it's that little yellow shack.
right before Curtis just west of Abbotsford that you know these really nice ladies in their white uniforms and their hair and nets are there and they're just packaging the curds as they're being made and bagging them up and these are these are as fresh as they come and I'm just squeaking on cheese curds the whole rest of the way home.
That sounds
so good.
It was great.
Exactly.
So I'm going to go enjoy some courage while you tell us how the weather is looking for the end of the week.
This tonight kicks off the high school football season.
So the weather appears to be coming close to high school football weather later on.
It sure does.
It's going to match that vibe as we go, especially into this weekend.
This morning, though, be careful driving.
I'm glad Alicia waited until she was done driving to message because that's a dense fog and it is thick in some places, especially central parts of the state and northern parts of the state this morning.
Of course, that'll clear and give way to partly sunny skies throughout the day today.
Temperatures right now starting at about 50 degrees in Ashland, 68 degrees in Racine.
We are going to make it to the mid to upper 70s.
again today.
So pretty much what we felt yesterday.
Just a smidge warmer and we're going to put those temperatures on repeat for tomorrow too.
So very comfortable out there.
We are going to see a few more clouds starting to build in off of Lake Superior far north in the state later today.
And then the rest of the state is going to get cloudy for tomorrow because we have a cold front arriving and that is going to bring some showers and storms potentially.
Those look to start tomorrow morning, far northwest in the state, kind of heading towards Eau Claire and Hayward, maybe in the afternoon.
And then early evening towards Wausau and Rhinelander, overnight, maybe La Crosse and Fox Valley.
And then by Saturday morning, a few spotty showers could linger towards Milwaukee.
After that though, a fall feel.
I'm kind of excited.
A little brief refreshing moment, a few days there where it is going to be temperatures in the upper 60s to low 70s on Saturday.
It is going to be breezy too, partly sunny that day.
But then on Sunday, those winds really start to whip and they actually create some lake effect showers.
Not snow showers yet.
Just regular showers on Sunday, far north in the state off of Lake Superior because temperatures are going to be in the low 50s, far north as highs, to low 60s, far south as highs.
That's way different.
I was going to say, we do not get 60s as highs in August very often.
No, we do not.
Just a little bit of nature air conditioning.
And I mean, it's normally not news that I've got the house all opened up all the windows and everything, but given how smoky it's been.
So it's either been hot and humid or smoky that, you know, this is not going to be our least expensive year for Excel energy for the air conditioning bill is what I'm trying to say.
So this is a nice treat to have this.
Exactly.
Save
a few
dollars here.
Yep.
That's Alicia says it was really thick around Kana and Wright's town.
She puts up a big old smiley heart face for being shouted out for being a good careful driver by Brittany and of course a little cheese wedge as well.
And Rob says is that by the Abbey truck at Highway 29?
Close to it.
Yep.
It's on it's on your way.
That's the next exit.
If you want to stop at Nasonville to get those cheese curds.
So Brittany, thank you so much.
We'll get another update from you next hour.
Sounds good.
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The Milwaukee Brewers were losers again, they've now lost three in a row to the Chicago Cubs.
Jacob Mizorowski, once again, is proving himself to be a an explosive pitcher.
But as a result, you're going to really tax the bullpen.
Now he started strong.
He retired the first six batters.
So two innings of perfect ball.
But then in the third inning, he walked the first batter and then the second batter and then the third batter to load the bases.
And then he got the count to Michael Bush up to three balls in one strike.
And so he threw a ball down the middle, more or less.
And Bush drove that into the gap in left center field, cleared the bases.
Cubs went on to win by a score of four to three.
So the Cubs, no matter what happens this afternoon in the series finale, the Cubs will now have won the season series.
And that would give them the tiebreaker if need be, although right now.
The Brewers do still have a nice lead in the National League Central Division, but they got to get back to work here starting this afternoon when they wrap up the series at Wrigley Field.
1245, the pregame coverage begins on Civic Media stations and Park Falls and Hayward.
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So we were in Wisconsin Rapids yesterday, we were right across from the Wisconsin Rapids DMV, the state office building there.
And Parker, if there's one thing that we, you know, kind of take for granted, it's that state office buildings, and a lot of buildings similar to that in the public sector, they're not flashy.
Oh, God,?
no.
You know, they, they are
basic, to put it kindly.
Now, that does not necessarily mean that they're ugly, but some public buildings are.
And that is according to the New Jersey real estate network, which surveyed 3000 Americans asking them to weigh in on state capitals, post offices, court buildings, city halls, and as a result, Green Bay City Hall was voted Wisconsin's ugliest public building.
and number 33 nationally.
So it's it's in that list of top 100 ugliest buildings.
That's bad.?
I and I haven't seen it enough to know what makes it so I mean, I'll happily ask Dr. Lierly, you know, one of these times, but the number one was in Flint, Michigan, the city of Flint Municipal Center.
Why do
we keep banging on
Flint, Michigan??
Give them a break.?
Well, because somebody there decided to have an exterior that's all about concrete and brick, not welcoming at all.
Next was the courthouse in Fresno, California.
Let's see, there's the Buffalo City Court in New York City.
There's places in Mississippi.
Philadelphia with its large scale and stark lines.
This building makes a bold statement, but not a flattering one often described as monolithic.
It commands attention more through size than through charm.
It's handled.
It's designed to handle the city's business, not to win hearts.
It's very Hey, I like it.?
It's a little utilitarian, but that's okay.?
Oh, they do have a description here on City Hall and Green Bay.
Green Bay City Hall keeps a low profile with a straightforward brick design and traditional layout.
It's steady and practical, though architecturally, it doesn't reach far.
A touch more civic character could help it feel like more of a city centerpiece.
I suppose, but see, now we get to the heart of the matter here.
Look at most state capital buildings, especially in Madison.
Would you not agree, Madison, the Wisconsin State Capitol is one of the most beautiful state capitals?
Oh, yes.?
Without a doubt.?
Yeah.
It is lovely.
It is ornate.
And it was built at a time of great civic pride, where people wanted their state capitals and their courthouses and their city halls to show off because it was an extension of themselves back when people saw their state or local government as them.
You know, as in we, the people, this is our government, this is our building for it.
We're not in that era anymore.
If we were building capital buildings today, they'd all be part of this list.
They'd all be these monolithic office buildings, all in the name of austerity and cost cutting.
And we would not have these things.
There is no fourth grader that goes on that tour of the Wisconsin State Capitol that isn't awe inspired.
and inspired to do things like engage in public service.
For living in a state where the people thought so highly of themselves that they put in the artwork that was in there and made this a place that felt important for the people's business to be done.
Whereas if it were happening today, it would be done in a fishing shack and a card table for some people to have it done because they think so little of their own government and of the people who serve.
To them, the people who serve, they're not leaders, they're just typical politicians.
And I think that mindset has been to our detriment.
It's become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Look at the kind of people that we now have in government because we've been trashing government for so long.
So I'm not saying that every future public building has to be opulent, doesn't have to be, you know, gilded, doesn't have to have gold leaf everywhere.
But somewhere in the middle is having a healthy enough respect for where people serve us in government to not treat it like it's, you know, some kind of unwelcomed appendage.
Let's get back to more places that don't make a list like this and become a place of civic pride in our states and in our hometowns once again.
A local update coming up next for most of you, and when we're back together in 15 minutes, Sarah Godlowski, Wisconsin Secretary of State, who is now running for Lieutenant Governor in the 2026 elections.
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Let's see on the text line here from Jim and Brookfield.
I was listening earlier.
I really hope Governor Evers pushes through all of the policies that were held up by legislative committees.
Thank you, Jim, for the comment.
We were talking about a Jesse O'Pointe story in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel about how Governor Evers is moving forward now to implement some policies and rules that previously had been blocked by a legislative committee.
And again, it feels weird to even still say that, that there were things that the executive branch was trying to do that
people in the legislature could block through one committee of the legislature.
And it was something that the Wisconsin Supreme Court, you know, recently overturned because let's take the one about allocating money.
Okay, the legislature passes a state budget.
They passed it, they voted on it, the governor signed it.
And yet the legislature's over here saying, well, we're not going to release the money until we get to micromanage the ways in which you're spending from that pot of money.
And that's just not how things are supposed to be done.
And the same goes for implementing some of the rules that happen after laws are passed.
And that too now is no longer a barrier to Governor Evers now entering his eighth year in half way through his seventh year in office.
about this, but finally has a state Supreme Court that is removing the roadblocks that Republicans in the legislature were intentionally putting up here.
Tomorrow we'll have our Week in Review panel and Mark Jacob will be a long, long time journalist in the Chicago area.
He now has the Stop the Press's newsletter and he's got an interesting one this week called Celebrating the Heroes of the Resistance.
It's all about
the people who, whether they're politicians, legal leaders, scholars, media folks, business leaders, moral leaders, who have all been bright lights in combating the darkness that is MAGA.
And we'll be talking to Mark tomorrow, along with former US Attorney Jim Santel, and journalist Jennifer Schulze.
But one of the things I sure would like to ask them about, and I don't know if time allows, and so I want to get to it now, is an article in The New York Times.
that again we seem to have a difficult time in national media today calling things what they are.
There was this feature recently about a place in the Ozark Mountains of Arkansas where a small group of homesteaders are building an exclusive community from scratch.
The headline says
The founders of this new development say you must be white to live there.
Housing rights experts say a community restricted to white residents is illegal, but the creators believe they could win a potential challenge in court in the current political climate.
And then it goes on to talk about the shady backgrounds of these people who are starting this community.
But again, talking about, you know, why they would restrict it to people.
There's an article or a little note here about white nationalism that exploits economic anxiety.
And at that point, I had to stop reading.
Because I was like, why is the word racist not in this headline or the sub headline or
anywhere in the article.
You finally have to get somewhere far down the article where people involved in racial justice talk about how blatantly wrong and illegal this is.
And that's all true.
But why did it take that rather than a headline more along the lines of, you know, racists trying to build a whites only community?
We had the same problem with the word gerrymandering.
When those districts first came out in 2011, that new map, some of us recognized right away what it was.
But again, local media would not refer to it as gerrymandering.
They had to see like three or four election cycles in a row with lopsided results to say, hey, these maps are gerrymandering.
At the time of the civil rights era, you had plenty of people who took Umbridge if you described them as racists.
How do you describe them now?
in hindsight in the history book.
They're racists.
And the same goes for an administration that is now not just talking to the Smithsonian, but says they're going to talk to all museums about their exhibits and whether they focus too much on quote, how bad slavery was.
The Trump administration wants a wide ranging review of museum exhibits.
and the New York Times language says added to his pattern of minimizing black history.
His pattern of minimizing black history.
Why do we have such a hard time with that?
Now, some folks will say, well, this is all about a distraction away from Jeffrey Epstein and the Epstein files and everything.
Well, two things can be true at once, that he does see these things as a distraction.
But also, yeah, that he's wildly racist and would like a white nationalist police state as he's trying to create in Washington, DC.
Let's stop being afraid to say that.
We're talking to Lieutenant Governor Candidate Sarah Godluschi along the way.
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Our next guest is running out of space on her business card.
Being as busy as she is, having served as state treasurer, currently Secretary of State and now candidate for Lieutenant Governor, Sarah Godluschi joining us from our hometown in the Chippewa Valley.
Sarah, good morning.
How are you?
Well good morning Pat it's so great to be here and I feel like I'm just now even a stone's throw away from where you are.
Yes I know we we got to have that Chippewa Valley representation down there in Madison and so to that end you announced yesterday a campaign for Lieutenant Governor.
I will admit that I thought by now we'd have
something like 10 candidates for governor and a whole bunch of candidates for lieutenant governor, maybe attorney general, and we'll get more about the nature of the races.
But as it is right now, you are first to toss your hat in the ring for lieutenant governor.
Talk about why you made that choice rather than being part of, you know, a great big pack of folks like we had back in 2018 running for governor.
Well, I think a lot of us were trying to figure out what
Governor Evers was going to do.
I mean, Governor Evers is one of the most popular governors in the country, let alone Wisconsin.
And so when he made that announcement, for me, I was like, okay, do I stay in my role as Secretary of State, or do I do something else?
Like it just kind of opened up, I think, this whole kind of, you know, other opportunities.
And Pat, I will tell you, I've been traveling the state a lot.
doing town halls and talking to folks about the work we've been doing and it's pretty clear people are fed up.
They're fed up because they're seeing this system that works for corporations and the 1% and well some of them are you know just barely getting by.
I mean I was in Kenosha recently and a single mom who's also a home health care worker has to work two jobs just to say a float and
For me, this work has always been about service.
And so as I started thinking about it and talking to my family and friends, I just was like, look, I think the best role for me at this moment is to help the team that's going to solve some of these critical issues, whether it's health care or affordability.
And the best way I can do that is through the Lieutenant Governor's office.
and the Lieutenant Governor's office in in Wisconsin can play a very interesting and unique role as as a communicator almost communicator and chief while a governor is trying to you know shepherd legislation through and we've definitely seen a wide range of types of lieutenant governor in Wisconsin and we should point out
that they don't run as a ticket.
There's an open primary for lieutenant governor.
And then the winner of that primary is teamed up with the winner of the primary for governor.
So in case people are wondering why, you know, you can announce just for lieutenant governor and not be part of a ticket.
So you would be running.
And theoretically, not knowing who's going to win the gubernatorial primary, and you'd be a running mate with whoever that person is.
And they would say, Well,
Here's Sarah Godlowski.
She's my running mate.
So what are the the qualities that you'd bring to a ticket when it comes time to elect a governor and lieutenant governor in next year's election statewide?
Well, I think there's a few things.
I mean, for starters, we've got to talk about electability.
In 2018, I actually flipped more Trump counties than the governor, lieutenant governor and attorney general.
And I really credit a lot of that and growing up right here in the Chippewa Valley and being able to meet folks where they are to listen and to talk to them.
But of course, Pat, it's not just about winning.
That's critical.
But it's also then about getting things done and something that I always think
about is a quote that former Governor Tony Earl talked to me.
He's like, Sarah, it's never about the position, but it's always about the person.
And for me, this role is about getting things done.
That's what I've done as state treasurer.
We prevented foreclosures.
We've expanded home ownership.
As Secretary of State, we've expanded services so that we can meet people.
you know, we can provide these services more in their local communities and it's that kind of get it done mentality and working with the leadership team to solve these really, really complex issues that Wisconsinites are worried about.
I think the interesting thing about what you've done is that you've been in these positions where
Frankly, you're not given much and yet have to make something out of that the state treasurer's office again Republicans were looking to abolish the office secretary of state They want to do a abolish the office They'd removed so many powers from it and yet you find these little nuggets in each of those offices Lieutenant governor frankly ain't that much different in terms of you know, what you're given versus what you do with it is that
Is that a role that you'd see for yourself kind of continuing to play that role from First Treasurer to Secretary of State to Lieutenant Governor?
Well, I think some people would probably call me scrappy Sarah and I again really credit that grit from you know growing up right here and the Chippewa Valley and
I remember the first time when I walked into the state treasurer's office and I share this story, Pat.
There were wires that were hanging down from the ceiling.
They turned off my Wi-Fi and they gave me a pay-as-you-go flip phone as a way for me to communicate to almost 6 million constituents.
And I think the big thing has been they've tried to stop me before or not be successful and I've always proven them wrong.
And so what I'm excited about for Lieutenant Governor is that
This is, I think, a real opportunity to continue this, you know, for me, what's always been about service and the work that is ahead, because we are looking at what's coming down from the Trump administration.
I mean, the big, brutal bill.
paying for that $3.4 trillion, it's Wisconsinites.
The state's going to be responsible to figuring out how are we covering Medicaid?
How are we covering the cuts in food share?
How are we covering the cuts when it comes to renewable energy projects?
It's going to be the state.
And I really look forward to being scrappy and figuring out these solutions that Wisconsinites need in order to live this life of kind of that they've wanted in our great state.
Wisconsin Secretary of State Sarah Godluschi is running for Lieutenant Governor and we'll come back to that campaign in just a moment, but because you are serving as Secretary of State and you've served a state treasurer, let me ask you about those elections next year and why?
Democrats would be wise to put strong candidates in there and not take those offices for granted.
It's one thing to have, like you said, a workhorse like yourself in those roles.
You've built up your name recognition.
People want to see you in those roles.
What's your suggestion for having Democrats not take those roles for granted in the next round of elections?
Well, we have seen our democracy be attacked here in Wisconsin and across the country.
And these roles are written into the Constitution because they provide checks and balances.
They help from the legislature and from other potential elected from doing a power grab.
And when you look at these two offices, the chief financial officer, that's the state treasurer.
I mean, the state treasurer can help manage a $1.4 billion trust fund that helps
finance our public schools, particularly the libraries in your public schools and your media items like technology.
which I think is a pretty big thing.
And then you look at the Secretary of State, they serve as almost a chief operating officer.
They're responsible for whether it is records or administrative work.
They deal with international affairs.
And so these are roles that do play an important role in our state.
They're an important check and balance.
And we've got to do everything we can to make sure that these seats, I believe, go to Democrats who are going to
continue to fight for the things that, whether it's investing in our public schools to making sure we have accessible services through the secretary of state.
Let's go back and just talk about your path prior to becoming state treasurer and then secretary of state and now candidate for lieutenant governor because I'm sure folks haven't heard your full bio and what all took you from the Chippewa Valley up to
serving in the first of your constitutional offices?
Well, I was at the time that Pat working with startups and small businesses and the amount of capital that Wisconsin was getting for small businesses in one day is what Wisconsin was getting or what Silicon Valley was getting in one day is what Wisconsin was getting in an entire year.
And I'm like, this is wrong.
And so looking across the country, a lot of state treasurers were helping small businesses.
And so I thought I would reach out to the state treasurer's office, long story short, they don't return my calls because they're trying to get rid.
of the chief financial office.
And I thought that was wrong.
I really didn't know what I was doing, but I started a bipartisan coalition to save the state treasurer's office and talked about the work because again, it manages a $1.4 billion trust fund that benefits our public schools.
And this was just a power grab by Scott Walker.
And everybody told me there was no way we were going to
you know, succeed in this constitutional amendment.
The voters had made up their minds.
Scott Walker was behind this.
And I'm proud to say that we won with a super majority of the vote and stopped that power grab.
And then the next question was, well, who's going to run for state treasure?
And someone who had a career in finance, I'm like, I would be honored to do this for my state.
Now I ask you that question to get to this question about running for lieutenant governor.
We have had Republican candidates recently in Tim Michaels in Eric Hovde and now in Bill Barion running for governor who are trying to go, you know, right from a business career into one of these big state constitutional offices, whereas you have served in the treasure role, the secretary of state role, looking for the lieutenant governor role.
Can you talk a bit about
the value of that experience versus somebody who has not served in any kind of public office running for a position like governor.
Well, to me, I think what's really important is experience.
in government and getting things done.
You know, you think about if you're hiring a CEO for a healthcare system, you're not going to necessarily hire somebody who has no idea how Medicaid reimbursement works or how Medicare reimbursement works.
And so it's all of these nuances that then make a good
CEO of a hospital.
And I think that is the same when you think about executives in your government.
You want someone that knows how to work with the legislature.
You want someone that knows how to write bills or how to get things done in the current structure that we're governed.
And so I do think the experience is important.
But I'll share with you, Pat, when I was talking to my sisters about
you know just thinking about my own experience and they're like uh and running for lieutenant governor they joked with me they're like oh my gosh Sarah so you're going to maybe have three executive offices under their your belt they're like is that some sort of trophy you're going for um and I was like no for me this has always been about service I think service is at the heart of the work we do day in and day out but experience does matter
And you can learn more over at our website, Sarah.
Sarah with an H, sarah4wisconsin.com.
And again, plenty of folks already were at your event.
Alicia was praising you on YouTube.
Ardeth says on Facebook, scrappy Sarah, we need your help to fix our state.
She can do it.
Sarah Godluschi, great to talk to you.
Thank you so much for the visit.
Well, thanks for having me, Pat.
It's always great to be here.
You bet.
Great seeing you as well.
When we come back, we're going to talk to Todd Alba here on the Civic Media Radio Network.
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Matt Nair on air is coming up next from 9 to 11 here across the Civic Media Radio Network, followed by Tom Hartman, followed by this guy here, Todd Alba, of the conveniently named Todd Alba show on this Thursday.
Yes, where, again, you've got a really big shoe today, and then tomorrow, all of the really big shoes will be giving away Brewer's tickets.
Free Ticket Friday is making a comeback.
And don't let this recent little three game skid.
throw you for a loop.
There's still plenty of baseball yet to be played here.
And I
feel it's going to be a good game today.
Pat, I was listening earlier.
I heard you say it's Craig Council's birthday.
What better gift than a loss?
Fly
to Yale.
It would be the it would be the best pregame starting at 1245 across the civic media radio network.
What are the people in Wisconsin Rapids the best?
They are absolutely the best we were up there yesterday, as I know you were yesterday morning as well for the 85th anniversary coming up on WFHR.
And yeah, every single person was fantastic.
The people at the station, the people that were there from the community organizations, took people just coming up and saying hi.
So it was a good time.
Have my
all.
I want to think that I was single-handedly responsible for the good crowd that you got because of the video that I
the video that I put up in the pre-dawn darkness of 5.30 in the morning, standing outside the radio station there saying, I'm first in line for the Todd Alba show coming out there this afternoon.
And sure enough, you had the one thing I was noticing that is one of the hazards of live radio was like the group of young ins who are all coming by and just like, are you on the radio right now?
Are you live?
Hey,
can I be on the radio with you??
And somebody shushed him away and I was about to put him on the air.?
You probably were, which is exactly?
why Lauren Melissa could not be fast enough as bouncers to get those kids, get those pesky meddling kids out of the way before they said a naughty word or something.
Although
we all know?
if anybody's going to say a naughty word on the radio, it's going to be the guy with all the radio experience over here, but you've been very worried.
You
know what
happened that after we got off the air Miss Wisconsin Rapids showed up and we had a nice chat off the air and and I asked her I said I said are you in high school or you go senior?
She goes no no I'm in college actually I'm like all right and then some of those same kids that were trying to get on the air they came up and they're like how old are you and she goes she goes she goes well I'm pretty old and and
the
kid goes the kid goes what like 23 and she goes no I'm 20 and they
One of the kids, like 10 years old, goes, you look like you're 23.
Wow.
And then I said, how old do you think I am?
Yeah.
And one of them said 57.
And the other one said 60, at least 60.
Oh
my
gosh.
I said, well, 55.
There's a babes see it's it's the wisdom you have the wisdom that comes all that all that gray in that beard is wisdom boys and girls not age By any stretch by the
way, I heard your interview is here at Kyle Lusky.
That's fantastic She is running for lieutenant governor I would like to announce this morning after traveling around the state particularly Wisconsin Rapids I am being encouraged to think about running for lieutenant governor So that's exactly what I'm doing and I believe that if if I do run for lieutenant governor my
campaign slogan will be somebody needs to keep an eye on these people.
That's all it's gonna be because well really because it's a great job You have no constitutional duties other than staying alive and waiting for the governor to either die or leave office Unlike unlike the vice president you don't have to vote in a tie in the state in the state Senate anymore So you just sit around it's a great office.
So I think I think I'd be good at doing nothing
I think you would you would take that office back down to the level of people's expectations
Which is exactly why Sarah Godlowski does nothing other than win and appointments and elections is because she exceeds expectations in
the?
world But you you I think that should be your motto.
I will bring this office down to its expectations
All right, I think I think I'm thinking about only now see I'm thinking about it
Okay, we we I think we need to keep you here to talk to people like today you're talking to Dan Schaefer from the Reconbobulation area who hopefully has recovered now from his free George Webb hamburger and the experience of waiting in line for it
I'm very, very excited.
I believe it was pink.
Who was it?
Somebody was in town in Milwaukee doing a concert, and they mentioned the recubabulation area on their socials.
So I'm very excited
to talk
to Dan about that.
And I think they were talking about the Milwaukee Mitchell Field Airport, but
nonetheless.?
And then number two, yes, our own Dan Schaefer braved the elements, the people, the crowds, and pushed his way through the lines in George Webb.
and he had a free hamburger on George Webb Day for the Brewers.
So we'll talk to you and we might get to politics as well.
You know, somehow I don't doubt that you will.
There's been more than a couple of things that can be talked about besides George Webb hamburgers and things like that.
And also, you know, I've...
I talked to John Shelton from Green Bay.
He and Chris Larson wrote that letter about the qualities that they expect in Wisconsin's next governor.
And it leads to a discussion similar to the one that I had with Dan Schaefer is whether so-called centrist Democrats and so-called liberal Democrats, are they going to be adversaries or allies in the coming year?
And is that a real concern or is that just something we like to talk about on the radio?
I don't know.
You're the Democrat.
I'm the former Republican is independent.
I I mean, I I think you for me say before that was the one reason I was hoping Evers were running for re-election because he's been a steady hand and brought people together We'll see.
I mean, I know Francesca Hong who I think is a great state representative for the dismiss of Madison I don't know that that transfers over into a statewide Agenda because I've lived in the Isthmus of Madison nothing against it.
But what what fly is there is not gonna fly
at Wisconsin Rapids.
So I'm hoping for a Democrat, whether it's Sarah Rodriguez, the current Lieutenant Governor or Kelder Royce State Senator.
I think those are two examples of people that have gotten in so far that have the ability of showing the ability to bring Wisconsinites together.
Well, Kelder Royce hasn't gotten in yet, but she came as close as she came on your show, making the news that she's this close to announcing, which for me, that's close enough.
She's in because she told Todd Alba.
That's how that's how that show.
Nothing
to do with me, but
we
were the closest.
We were a block away.
So she said, I suppose I'll walk down to all
those.
You were the most annoying inquisitor.
That's how you get things done.
Todd, weekdays from two to four.
Thank you, my friend.
Talk to you later.
Thank you, Pat.
All right.
Me.
I mean, me.
It's the wrong button.
We'll be back.
You're up north.
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