Berrien His Campaign Hopes (Hour 3)

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Berrien His Campaign Hopes (Hour 3)

Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Fri Aug 8, 2025

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Pat Crightlow (host)

At 8.06 on this Friday morning, August 8th.

Good morning.

Nice to have you back here up north.

Parker Olson producing us down in Madison Studio A2.

Brittany and Merleau will be along with the forecast in a bit, so will Dr. Kristen Lyrely, so will Mike Clemens talking about sports.

Weather-wise, since it's going to be warm and humid on the text line, Jim and Brookfield, since it will be warm and humid in southeast Wisconsin today, I will be going to the local Milwaukee County pool for a water aerobics class and some lap swimming.

Embrace the warm weather, because I did remind folks, Brittany, that for a little weather perspective,

It is 139 days till Christmas.

So, you know, if you don't want to be thinking about winter, then just embrace what

Brittany (weather reporter)

we got

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here.

Embrace it for the moment.

Maybe not so much the thunderstorms, but I'm good with the warmth

Brittany (weather reporter)

issues that

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the thunderstorms are probably going to accompany at this time.

Brittany (weather reporter)

Yeah, unfortunately they are.

But first things first, get out and soak up the sunshine, right?

It's bright.

It's beautiful.

The wildfire smoke is gone.

Yeah, it's summer.

We've got heat advisories from Green Bay to Oshkosh up towards Shawnau, even into Ashland Hayward Siren area.

You're going to feel that heat at its peak throughout the state.

We are going to be hitting highs at about 90 degrees.

statewide today and with the humidity in the 60s and 70s, those dew points, it's going to be really feeling like 100 degrees.

So super hot.

If you are headed to the lake, especially Lake Michigan, be careful out there.

There are some bigger waves that are building on occasion and rip currents too.

And those can happen fast.

So please, please, please be careful if you are headed to the water, but the water is a perfect way to stay cool today and throughout tomorrow because portions of southern southeastern Wisconsin, you're really going to still feel that heat tomorrow too.

Well, up north, we'll start to feel a little bit relief.

because those showers and storms are moving in.

So the first round expected far north this afternoon could be strong to severe with high winds, hail and heavy downpours.

You're going to get another round overnight tonight.

Then that front starts to shift south in the state headed towards Wausau, La Crosse, Green Bay, at least by tomorrow morning.

That continues through the afternoon before it shifts even further south.

Then heads up Milwaukee and Madison throughout tomorrow afternoon and evening.

It's going to be sitting over you and hitting you.

Again, still bringing the risks of high winds, heavy downpours which could create some flash flooding, and then also some hail too.

Now the front wants to park itself over southern parts of the state for Sunday and Monday, maybe lingering into portions of Tuesday.

This is going to create an aerial flooding risk where totals could create or rise to about three to five inches in some places south.

So we are looking at flooding becoming a risk as we go into early next week.

And of course, still hanging onto the heat and humidity.

It's not going to go away.

We won't be feeling 100 degrees all weekend long, but it will be feeling like the low nineties all weekend long.

Pat Crightlow (host)

I do feel like we should be looking up at the sky as that thing tries to stall here and saying, you know, this is a no loitering zone.

You can't lawyer here.

You got to just move it along.

Just

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hold

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up the signs.

Leave a little bit.

Leave a little bit of rain and move on.

It

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doesn't work that way.

Pat, just like writing a letter to Canada does not make the wildfires go away.

No,

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it doesn't.

No, I thought if I complained enough, it would.

be

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effective.

No, you gotta do something.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Only if only if you're auditioning for a talk radio host.

That's it.

Everything else it does you very little good.

Brittany, have a fun weekend.

Brittany (weather reporter)

You too.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Thanks.

Brittany (weather reporter)

All

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right.

Yep, you bet.

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which I don't have a question of the week idea yet, Dr. Lirely.

I'm going to come up with something.

This week I asked about whether, you know, democratic controlled states like California should also engage in gerrymandering to offset what Texas Republicans are trying to do.

Or is it, you know, is it too wrongs don't make a right?

Or you got to do what you got to do to save democracy.

So I've got to tally up those results today for the Sunday morning newsletter.

And then I got to, I got to come up with something for the weekend here.

So.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

Is that poll closed?

Are you done collecting results for that one?

Pat Crightlow (host)

Uh, no, I mean, people can still respond to last Sunday morning's newsletter or they can send us an email or they can put something in the comment sections, you know, radio it up north news.

W I dot com is the email address.

Why do you ask?

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

It's a hot topic.

Pat Crightlow (host)

It is hot topic.

Yeah, exactly.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

People have opinions.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Yes.

How are you doing?

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

I'm good.

It's almost the weekend.

It's going to be hot.

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I have to

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decide, do I bike to the Packer game tomorrow?

Do I drive?

I prefer to bike, but it's going to be raining.

But how much rain?

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I

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can tolerate rain.

I just don't want to, you know, get caught in the middle of a thunderstorm on my bike.

Pat Crightlow (host)

And that's not the only thing you have planned.

You have a busy weekend ahead of you here.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

Yeah, I'm done with OPP this weekend tonight.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Please explain this OPP as only you can.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

Yeah, you know me.

I'm going to be in Oshkosh tonight for a stop the billionaires giveaway rally, which is going to be a blast.

And then tomorrow, of course, it's the Packers and the Jets at Lambeau.

And then on Sunday, I go to Peru because I'm an invited speaker for the Peruvian OBGYN Society.

So

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I get to talk

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about rural obstetrics in a different country that has a giant amount of rural territory.

It's going to be cool to compare notes with my colleagues down there.

Pat Crightlow (host)

So Oshkosh, Packers and Peru.

OPP.

Got it.

Okay.

One of the, one of the stories that we've been looking at this week deals with the race for governor and Bill Barion who, again, wealthy business guy, much like Eric Havde, Tim Michaels, but tells Dan Bice of the Journal Sentinel, oh no, he's, he's different than

you know, than Eric Hovde.

And he's different from Tim Michaels.

And Dan Byes asked how, and the answer was along the lines of, you know, I've got leadership skills, which is exactly what every rich white business owner says, you know, when they're running for office.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

When will they learn their lesson?

This is not what the people want.

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The

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people want somebody who actually

talks to them and understands their plight and will help them.

And Pat just gets worse and worse with every election cycle.

People are getting more and more discouraged.

At some point, hopefully, Republicans are going to say, maybe we're on the wrong track here.

Maybe we can't actually buy everything we need here.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Well, perhaps.

I mean, the one thing, as Barion says, he will definitely not be spending nearly as much money as Eric Hovde did and Tim Michaels did out of their own pocket.

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Oh,

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I guess that

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is that supposed

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to strike me as refreshing and a reason to support somebody.

But then it was

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really conservative.

Right.

Pat Crightlow (host)

There you go.

And as, as Dan Bice does, you know, he's a very dogged investigative reporter and tried to get a straight answer out of Bill Barrion about, you know, making campaign donations to Nikki Haley, more than $30,000 worth.

in her attempt to win the presidential primary last year.

But Donald Trump, of course, came out on top.

And the first three times, you know, that that Dan Beis asked Bill Bering about it, he tried to deflect and say, well, Trump won.

And boy, I'm all in on Trump now.

And, and, uh, vice would say, well, what about these things you said about, you know, Trump, you don't like his COVID leadership.

You don't like his anti science approach.

Uh, but now you're saying Trump is taking back Washington for the American people.

So what is it about the donations to Nikki Haley?

And finally, Bill Barion says, let's just put it this way.

I mean, uh, why don't you go ahead and say, I regret those donations.

So he doesn't say I regret those donations.

He says.

Why don't you go ahead and say I regret those donations?

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

Why don't you go ahead and just tell the truth?

Yeah,

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that you didn't want Trump last year and that now you're doing everything possible to get his endorsement.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

Yeah, we

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know

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that that puts you in an impossible situation within your own party, but I think that that's a reflection of what's happening in the party.

Like, come on guys, it is time to step up and be authentic.

That's what people want.

Republicans, Democrats, independents.

doesn't matter, people want authentic leaders.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Yeah, without a doubt.

A couple of stories you shared with me and include one about Idaho has now lost one in three obstetricians since its abortion ban went into place.

We talk about the problem with rural health care.

We talk about the problem with women's health care and in places like Idaho, you've got a perfect storm there for women's health care.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

In two years.

They lost a third of their OBGYN doctors in two years.

I'm betting they didn't lose a third of their OBGYN patients in two years.

And they were already struggling to meet the needs of the population.

I can't even imagine what it's like right now in Idaho.

My one colleague who is just trying to leave the charge and do everything is exhausted.

You can only keep up with this for so long.

So I don't know what the future holds for women in Idaho, but I think it's bleak.

Pat Crightlow (host)

It is I mean there's just there's no other way to put it and Until there's some kind of electoral change

and I don't think there's going to be an electoral change in Idaho anytime soon.

We're going to find ourselves in a bad way.

We also had the exclusive today, and you can find it on Instagram and on our website of a Pete Buttigieg video series that he does on all the social media platforms.

He's got an audience of millions, and he spoke to Dr. Jill McMullen, a family practice doc in Tomah, and she has some very strong words to say about the cuts to Medicaid and what that's going to do to rural health care.

Now,

We're no strangers to that topic here.

But again, she was one where she was a person where I said, you know, a lot of doctors still don't like to speak up, but more than ever before.

And she told me, she's like, this is, this is the world we live in.

We have to speak up now about these things.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

I chair the board of an organization called the committee to protect healthcare.

And it is a group of doctors of all different specialties.

all across the country who are feeling this way, who know that we can't just have these conversations in the exam rooms anymore.

We have to have these conversations on social media, in the press, in large groups in our communities, and it makes us really uncomfortable because we are not trained to do that.

I'm not uncomfortable doing that, but most doctors are.

So to see doctors like Dr. McMullen stepping up and using their voices in these places where we, the people need to hear them just tells you how desperate the situation is.

I'm so proud of my colleagues and I'm so proud of the work that we do at the committee.

Stay tuned.

There is so much more to come because we need it.

Pat Crightlow (host)

We surely do.

So to hear more from Dr. McMullen and see an excerpt, you can head to our Instagram site, just search for UpNorthNewsWI, or the website article that I put up early this morning all about it.

The title is Rural Health Care Faces, a Death Spiral from GOP Medicaid Cuts, and you can read more at UpNorthNewsWI.com while you're there.

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where, again, Kristen's gonna come up with a slam bang question of the week for me at

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some point here.

So much pressure.

Hey, Dr. McMillan, practice is at one of those hospitals that is in danger of closing, right?

Pat Crightlow (host)

Yeah, there are three hospitals that have been identified on a list nationwide as most likely to close because like she says in the interview, there are hospitals that are running negative revenue right now.

They're already spending more money than they take in.

and are reliant upon those Medicaid dollars to keep providing care.

And so they are already in trouble to begin with.

Now you start slashing what Medicaid is bringing in.

And like she said, it's not just, yeah, they'll start with we don't deliver babies here anymore, but then more services and more services and then they close.

And, you know, that hurts everybody.

So people that are going, oh, this is just for those people on Medicaid, not, not even close.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

Not even close.

And I can tell you Holy Family in Manitowoc is another one of those.

They've already shut down their OB services and the Asphyrus Hospital in Stanley is another one.

There are three in Wisconsin.

The hospital where I work in Hibbing, Minnesota is another one that's on the chopping block and the community loves that hospital.

They need that hospital.

They will fight for that hospital, but it's in danger.

So this is a time if you live in one of those communities.

If you believe in rural health, you can't do this on your own.

This is a time to come together and use your voices and talk to your representatives, talk to the people who are the decision makers, because if you want to save your health care and in rural areas, we need that, you need to use your voice.

Pat Crightlow (host)

A local update is next for some of you.

And then when we're back all together in 15 minutes, we'll be talking to Mike Clemens talking about sports.

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Kristen Lierly here with us right now before she takes off for all of next week.

And so, Doctor,

Brittany (weather reporter)

you get

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a lot

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of

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people who say these immortal words to you that I know you love hearing.

Well, I read on the internet.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

It's unavoidable.

And they never say it proudly.

They always say it sheepishly.

Oh,

Pat Crightlow (host)

that's good.

I shouldn't be.

Where did we get this article from you that more than half of adults use social media for health information?

What is AJMC?

That's the journal I'm looking at here.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

I'm not sure which journal, but it was the Kaiser Family Foundation that published it.

It's a great source, and it's legitimate, and it just verifies what you already know.

Because we've all done it, right?

Pat Crightlow (host)

The American Journal of Managed Care.

There we go.

Which includes peer reviewed journals like, you know, the American Journal of Evidence Based Oncology.

There's that whole evidence based thing again.

versus social media.

This is a

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return to social media because nobody wants to, you know, put up with all of those words that are boring.

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45% surveyed reported they have never used social media to get health information or advice.

I don't know if I

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believe

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that.

I don't know if I believe that.

11% reported everyday use.

Another 11% said at least once a week, 4% once a month, 30% said they occasionally look up health information.

And look, I'm guilty of it, being married to an OBGYN myself.

You can just

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ask your wife.

Pat Crightlow (host)

I've had to sheepishly say.

Honey.

about this little issue here, you know, and it might be, you know, well, there was a...

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Don't give away your personal

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information.

No, I'm trying to... Is this infected?

I don't know.

Can you look at that?

But no, look, the sleep apnea, of course, would be the best example of, you know, well...

when she says well you you might have this and blah blah blah so you start reading about it and again she's not a sleep expert she's just smarter than me and so I'll say well I read this and I read that and I mean the fact of the matter is now by her addressing those concerns and then of course my own doctor addressing those concerns

I've been sleeping like a baby, you know, for the past month

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here.

I'm

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so happy for you.

It's been so great.

My little, my Apple Watch and, you know, the whole breathing, you know, tells your iPhone, your breathing elevations.

And so I'm at 30 days here and I'm trying to hold this up for Kristen to see the little graph is like way down at the bottom now.

That's amazing.

It used to be way up at the top.

There's the six month view of it.

Can you tell where I got the CPAP?

machine.

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I

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can hold the crap just drops into nothing.

So but again, I think the internet has that role of getting you familiar with something.

Just don't take it as gospel.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

Yeah, that's one of the things that I'm really trying to do.

I've really ramped up my internet presence recently with a lot of like shorts like on tiktok and Instagram, just sharing some basic health information to just

peak your interest so that you can try to figure out how that works for you in your lives, especially when it comes to things like vaccines, because we hear so much misinformation and so much politically motivated information.

And the truth is, vaccines aren't for everybody, but they are for many people.

And you have to make that decision for yourself and for your family and for your children.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Oh my god, I totally forgot about that.

I wanted to ask you about it, and I didn't want to ask you about it, about Robert Kennedy Jr.

halting funding for mRNA shots.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

This is terrible

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news.

And what it's going to do.

How is it terrible?

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

Well, mRNA is a vehicle that you can put almost any virus into.

So we can make vaccines for so many different things.

That's how we got the COVID vaccine so quickly.

Typically, it takes years to develop a vaccine, to develop it and test it and get it out there.

But with the COVID vaccine, we had the mRNA vehicle ready to go and we were able to implement it and it saved millions of lives.

They then took that vehicle and started thinking, started imagining what it could do and turned their attention to not just things like viruses, but cancer.

We're on the brink of more cancer preventing vaccines.

Of course, the HPV vaccine prevents cancer.

The hepatitis B vaccine prevents cancer.

But they were looking at other things like maybe a vaccine against melanoma and other things.

And they were on the brink of some really great

discoveries.

And now all of that funding is going to go away because RFK Jr hates vaccines.

He lied about it during his Senate confirmation.

Now he's back hating vaccines again, pulling funding, spreading this misinformation.

And what's going to happen?

People are going to die unnecessarily of things like cancer.

Pat Crightlow (host)

on the Dr. Kristen Lirely show coming up this weekend.

We're

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talking about the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

Pat Crightlow (host)

We're going from the train wreck of RFK to a shipwreck, the Edmund Fitzgerald, with my old legislative colleague Tom Nelson.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

How much do you love Tom Nelson?

Pat Crightlow (host)

Here's how much.

I heard you was going to be a guest on your show this weekend.

He's going to be a guest on my show this coming Monday at 730.

I just got the confirmation of that.

So 730 Monday morning.

So tell people what they're going to hear about on your show.

Oh my

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gosh, Tom Nelson, Mike O'Connor Homeboy, out of Gaby County Supervisor, just wrote this book about the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

It all started with the song like it does for so many of us.

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And

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then he got interested in the story, which is very obviously dramatic and terrible.

But then he started looking at why did this actually happen?

The ship was overloaded.

It wasn't seaworthy.

How did we send these sailors out with this load in this dangerous weather?

It is really about the failure of our industrial complex and how we don't support workers the way that we need to.

This was 50 years ago, but it's still happening now.

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So

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it's a very complex story that interweaves all of these interviews with family members, people who had not been interviewed in the past, and really gets very personal.

I think it strikes a special place for many of us who are very interested in this even 50 years later.

Pat Crightlow (host)

It is truly a metaphor for American industrialization and corporatization and the treatment of the workforce.

Like you said, even 50 years later.

So catch that on the Dr. Kristen Lyley show this weekend.

And then Tom Nelson will continue the conversation with us Monday morning here at 7 30.

Kristen, have a fun weekend and a great trip.

If I don't talk to you.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

Thanks, man.

I'll keep you posted.

Pat Crightlow (host)

All right.

Mike Clemens is going to be talking sports with us.

Our keyword for Free Ticket Friday is Ground, G-R-O-U-N-D, for tickets for next Wednesday afternoon's Brewers Pirates Game.

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Do you like to get outside?

Do you like to do a little biking like Dr. Lirely does?

You're going to do some biking this weekend, hopefully.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

As much as I can.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Whatever the rain doesn't let you do.

Or instead of biking, you're into hiking.

Well, in today's Up North News daily newsletter, there is a link to an article on our website.

a perfect Wisconsin trail for every hiker.

There's some 3,000 miles of trails weaving through just our state parks.

And so whether it's a one mile hike, a three mile hike, a 10 mile hike, there are trails just right for you.

And you can find a link to that in our daily newsletter.

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Are you a trail person or do you go down like streets, highways, whatever the case may be?

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

On my bike?

Pat Crightlow (host)

Yeah.

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All right, anywhere.

I've got one of those fat tire bikes.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Oh, that's right.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

So I mean curbs

Rocks.

I've been on ATV trails.

That's that's a challenge.

Yes.

Pat Crightlow (host)

I have to tell you, I heard from, uh, all right, looked at a Facebook post and state Senator Romain Quinn from the rice lake area, Republican.

Again, it's always, once it personally involves them, it's a, it's a picture of a trail.

I don't know if it was the Tuscobia trail or another trail and it's looking a little rocky.

It's looking a little rough and the post says something like, this is unacceptable.

I'm going to talk to the DNR and see if we can shake some money loose.

It can always shake money loose when it benefits their own personal use, but God forbid.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

Yeah, what about the other people?

Pat Crightlow (host)

Yeah, nope.

Nope.

Just what you see.

So invite your local legislator to come see what it is that you need.

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Time for some Friday sports and let's talk to Mike Klein.

who's at Packer Training Camp.

The first Packer preseason game is tomorrow, but we got to start by talking about the Red Hot Milwaukee Brewers taking on the Mets.

Coverage begins at 6.35 this evening across the Civic Media Radio Network.

So let's talk Brewers Mets.

Mike Clemmons, good morning.

How are you?

SPEAKER_03

Good.

Or raise a river for your birthday party.

Let's do.

Yeah, like JD

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Vanscott.

Yeah, whatever

SPEAKER_03

you need, you know.

I'm very good, Pat.

I'm very good, Pat.

I'm very good.

Kristen, how are you guys?

Pat Crightlow (host)

Hey, we're great.

Kristen's very excited, of course, because you got that first Packer game, you know, coming up tomorrow, the first preseason game.

So we will get into that.

But here we have the Brewers in early August with the best win-loss record in Major League Baseball with a whole bunch of guys that almost nobody's ever heard of.

Mike, what's the secret sauce in all this?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, first team to get to 70 wins this season.

four game lead over the cubs right now talked about last week the winning percentage five ninety three actually historically the lowest in major league baseball history heading into the first day of august but that's because maybe there's a lot of peer parity going on in the major leagues right now with some of the other power teams but whatever uh... you know night after night you got freddie peralta is your ace he's coming through the picture bread and woodruff is back he's going to be the guy on the mount tonight

For the Brewers, he's three and all got a ERA of 2.22.

So he's looking good.

And then, you know, the other guys, how about like Quinn Priester?

I think 23, 24 years old, big kid, like six foot four when you talked to him.

And every time he gets out of the bow, I think that they're up to like 12 wins in a row, whenever he pitches.

So, and, you know, when they swept the Braves the other night, first they sweep the nationals in Washington, D.C.

But to beat the Braves,

One of the beat guys told me that, you know, off Mike, Murph said, I don't know how we're doing this and I don't want to know.

I don't want to know.

Just like you don't

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want to know about the pancake in his pocket.

SPEAKER_03

I was going to say,

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it's

SPEAKER_03

the pocket pancakes.

That's the thing that's doing.

Yeah, that little car boost.

Do they actually sell pancakes like that at your local freezer at the grocer or something like that?

I think

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you can get mini pancakes.

You can get everything else in the frozen food section.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit.

SPEAKER_03

No one, Murphy, probably grabs a baggie and when they're serving breakfast in the clubhouse, he grabs a couple of pancakes and puts it in there, right?

Pat Crightlow (host)

I

SPEAKER_03

could see

Pat Crightlow (host)

that.

I mean, you've seen a couple of good clubhouse spreads in your day.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, they're OK.

They're

Pat Crightlow (host)

pretty

Caller

good.

Pat Crightlow (host)

They're

Caller

OK.

I tell you

Pat Crightlow (host)

my favorite story about clubhouse spreads was being in a Packer locker room at Lambo after a game in the Brett Favre era.

And I mean, I'm so hungry, you know, you've been working a game for hours and hours and you're starving.

And you see the food in the locker room.

And there's Brett Favre with a pizza sitting on the bench there in front of his locker, you know, a whole 12 or 14 inch pizza.

And we go to some other guy two lockers down, asked two questions, maybe I turn around and that pizza is completely gone.

I mean,

I mean, that's what it's got to be like after these games is just, you know, unhinge your jaw and taking a pizza.

SPEAKER_03

You know, Larry, the comedian Larry, the cable guy, remember him?

Pat Crightlow (host)

Yep.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

He married a girl from, I think, Appleton or Fond du Lac.

She's a Big Packers fan.

She gets them tickets to get in and then, you know, Far finds out that Larry's, you know, around, so he gets them into the locker room.

And so Larry makes solfas.

you know, he loves making with, you know, different fruits in there and things like that.

And so he said, he said, hey, come on back to the next game.

So he brings, Larry brings in his salsa and it's him and Farve and the Ys and they're eating chips and cells are like three hours after the game.

I loved them so much.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Oh, that's funny.

SPEAKER_03

My favorite post game funny eatery stories.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Oh, yeah.

Here's a question on Facebook from Roger and Steven's point.

When the Brewers begin their most strenuous part of the schedule, 19 games over 18 days, would the team keep six starters during this stretch?

SPEAKER_03

I don't know.

I know that what we're seeing is five and six innings.

is greatly appreciated, and then they bring in a different pitcher for the seventh, eighth, and ninth innings.

And I think that's the way that Murph likes to do it.

Maybe they go longer innings when you get into the postseason.

But for right now, they've got a formula that works, and they're not wearing out their pitchers.

And Mizorowski, will they let him go to seven innings?

Because they've been bringing him along

gradually, that might be the key right there, right?

How the Miz performs when they get to that part, when he gets back.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Yeah, what Roger's referring to is the Brewers play the Mets this weekend and then the Pittsburgh Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday next week, a day off and then they start this big stretch of games first in Cincinnati, then in Wrigley against the Cubs.

It was originally scheduled to be a four game series Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, week after next.

But because of a makeup game for a rain out, it's now five games at Wrigley Field week after next with the Cubs.

I mean, that's that's the division right there.

And I

I had dreaded it for the longest time.

I'm looking forward to that series now.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but, you know, they could have played a double header in the Cubs.

Oh, it's misty.

Yes.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Yes.

Caller

Oh, that

Pat Crightlow (host)

was so, that was garbage is what it was.

SPEAKER_03

Cubs knew what they were doing.

They knew what they were doing.

So anyway, tonight you're playing a Mets team that's a couple of games behind the Phillies in the East, but they've only won two of their last 10 games.

So, you know, maybe the Brewers could, if they could at least win this series this week and it gets a tough to beat the Mets team.

Don't forget, this is the Mets that ended the Brewers season last year in the postseason.

So that's what you're looking at tonight with Brad and Woodruff on the mound for Milwaukee.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Oh, it's going to be good to see him pitching again.

All right, Packers are hosting the Jets the first of three preseason games tomorrow at 7, tomorrow 7 p.m.

How is the Packer offense looking in training camp this week?

SPEAKER_03

Finally, for me, got a little bit more in sync.

They took the next step because, you know, you've been out there now for two weeks, two and a half weeks.

And, you know, Matthew Golden, number 22, your first round draft pick out of Texas, he's outstanding.

Bad.

He's just outstanding.

And each day he does something else, you know, where firstly he's catching slam passes, turns up field, speed, rockets pass, three defensive backs, three starting defensive backs, they can't catch him.

Next, they start throwing some deep bombs to him.

Great hands, great stride.

He gets two or three steps ahead on anybody trying to cover him.

You know, a 60-yard bomb.

Now, the most important ones is like the crossing routes over the middle, 15 or 20 yards downfield.

Crisp routes, the hands go up.

Once the ball gets in his hands, he turns upfield.

And then you see Christian Watson warming up there, coming back from the Torney CL.

And you think, oh my gosh.

I mean, if you can have 22 on one side, you know, Matthew Golden and then Christian Watson on the other side.

And Romeo Dobbs is having a tremendous camp, the veteran.

He's going into his fourth year into a contractor.

He's having a great camp.

Yesterday, he made a very nice little touchdown catch on a fade route, kind of an angle route to the corner.

And he beat, you know, a backup safety looked up.

caught the ball on his outside shoulder touchdown and he looks at the points of the fans at the practice field and he does a lambo leap at the Ray Nitschke practice field.

Nice.

I mean, you know, I saw in the locker room, I said, hey, you're in mid-season four, man.

He just laughed, you know.

I mean, the fans that came to practice saw that.

So what they think, what they finally are getting, that stuff going.

And then, Savion Williams, the other, the taller wide receiver that they drafted in this past year's draft this spring.

uh... he's making catches now and running good routes and so when you see that you start saying yourself man there there's somebody was on this roster last year wide receiver that's gonna be out of a job

come Labor Day.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Well, you know, and injuries happen.

And of course, as soon as you said Christian Watson, of course, my big fear is that he's become the Garrett Mitchell, you know, of the Packers, somebody who, you know, had all the potential in the world and just kept getting hurt.

So it's nice to have a deep roster because you never know if things might happen.

If you can't get to Lambeau Field tomorrow, maybe you can get to UW-Plattville and see the Badger football team.

They're kind of wrapping up their little stint down there, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah folks in that part of the state the Badgers for the second year old Luke fickle took him down to Platteville for the start of their training camp a little bonding experience Those have been closed, but tomorrow night their last practice at UW-Platteville.

It's open to the public.

It's five dollars a ticket

kids need a ticket to but they can get in for free if they're they're 12 and under and that gets going at seven o'clock at what they call a pioneer stadium at UW-Platteville and the proceeds all go to the Platteville Athletics Department over there.

Pat Crightlow (host)

That's so nice that they do that because again much like you know Packers preseason You know these things aren't necessarily supposed to be all Secretive there there's got to be a reason to let the fan base Let the fan base in on on a little bit of the action So colleges are learning from the pros to have a little training camp action basically

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's almost like a family night kind of situation which is such a great thing for Packers fans too, especially to take kids to

As opposed to, I've told the story before, buddy of mine said, seven-year-old Jack, who ended up being a great high school football player was like,

Brittany (weather reporter)

yeah,

SPEAKER_03

he wants to see a football game.

So I just spent, I just got two tickets to Seahawks game.

I go, how much did you spend on that?

I take him to family

Caller

night.

It's

SPEAKER_03

just seven.

There's two, 10 a ticket.

And this is, you know, almost 10 years ago now.

So I could hardly wait to see him in the hallway of the radio station after that week.

And I said, so how'd it go?

He goes,

He wanted to go home in the third quarter No,

Pat Crightlow (host)

that's that's why you want to do these and Kristen you'll be there tomorrow one way or another at Lambo

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

I will definitely be around Lambo, but my plan is to bike, tailgate, go home, watch the second half from my chair.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Okay.

There you go.

There you go.

That works very well.

That's just fine.

Mike Lemon's doing double duty.

He'll be keeping an eye on the brewers, even as he's monitoring Packer Training Camp.

And I'm sure he's going to figure out, you know, the highs and lows from Badger Football and talk to us about that as these Fridays roll on and roll on.

Mike, thank you so much for the visit.

Appreciate it as always.

Have a great start to the

SPEAKER_03

weekend.

I'm thinking of doing an up-down.

I think I'm going to go to Milwaukee tonight and cover the Brewers game, then come back up to Green Bay tomorrow for the Jets game.

But I'm going to ask Murphy if there's anything else he keeps in his pocket.

It's like

Pat Crightlow (host)

waffles.

The wallet waffle.

Yes.

Whatever gets a win, we'll take it.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you,

Pat Crightlow (host)

Mike.

Talk to you later.

Thanks, Pat.

SPEAKER_03

Thanks,

Pat Crightlow (host)

Chris.

Oh, absolutely.

Some folks are going to have a local break.

And for others, some final news and notes here from Lake Wissota.

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Dr. Kristen Lairley is here at 8.53 as we wrap things up for the weekend.

And first, I want to get your reaction on air to something that Tony had told us.

on YouTube.

Did you see this big thing about GPT-5 coming out?

AI that's going to be allegedly a better source of medical information because so many people have been using chat GPT for their healthcare questions or healthcare information.

So now you're not just facing Dr. Google, you're facing Dr. AI.

How fun does that feel?

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

I don't think it's really all that different from Dr. Google,

Pat Crightlow (host)

to be honest.

I mean,

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

people are just putting information in and getting information back and then either using or not using that information.

And I think it can be a useful tool, but the problem is it's not a substitute for actual health care.

And the real problem is people don't have access to health care.

And they often, as you pointed out, Pat, don't have access to broadband either.

So to sit outside your library and use AI to try to figure out what's going on with your body because you can't go actually see a doctor to get true health care.

This is a failure.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Oh, without a doubt.

And so you've got, um, on top of all of that, on top of the potential.

for incorrect information through doing research on the internet.

You've also got gaslighting that's coming from politicians.

You still have Derek Van Orden claiming that somehow Trump's big bloated boondoggle is good for Medicaid.

And they're all insisting that there won't be any cuts when that's not

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

true.

have taken it to a point now with so many different things, whether it's political violence or health care or any other thing, they're saying things that are just so patently false and people are starting to recognize that they're being lied to.

And up until this point, it's been more subtle, but it's just they have to keep making the lies bigger and bigger and bigger.

So it's undermining trust in them and it's making people feel uncomfortable.

And that's an opportunity for people like us who actually care to say, Hey, come on.

Come back to the fold.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Let's work

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

together to do some good stuff.

Pat Crightlow (host)

That takes us to the president of the United States, who this week sent letters to Big Pharma outlining steps to bring down the price of prescription drugs in the United States.

So he's he's promising lower drug prices, but he's also jacking up the tariffs on prescription drugs.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

Did you see his math?

He also claimed that he had cost he had cut costs for prescription drugs by eighty ninety fifteen hundred percent

Show announcer

no

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

yes that math doesn't math friends I mean if you cut the cost of something by fifty percent you go from a hundred dollars to fifty dollars and if you cut it from a hundred dollars.

If you cut it by 100%, it's free, right?

Brittany (weather reporter)

But

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

if you cut it by 1500%, the companies are actually paying you to take the drugs.

That doesn't make any sense, but he has to get bigger and more grandiose as he talks to continue to get and hold people's attention.

So he has entered some sort of twilight

Pat Crightlow (host)

zone.

So I guess the twilight zone is he's thinking that if he can raise the prices of medicines coming in, it will somehow cut drug costs.

if the drugs are made in the United States, but like so much when it comes to manufacturing, that's so much easier said than done.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

Well, look, it's what's happened to simple drugs that are made in the United States.

I mean, it wasn't even a year ago that we had a shortage of normal saline.

Normal saline is IV fluids.

We use it all the time.

And this isn't the first time that it's happened.

But it was because of the hurricane in North Carolina that they were unable to supply normal saline to hospitals across the country.

And then it became a precious resource.

What do we do without IV fluids?

That is the bread and butter of hospitals.

That's what most people need.

So it's not going to cut costs and it's definitely going to disrupt the supply chain.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Well, and like I said about, you know, other manufacturing, here's Trump talking about bringing iPhone manufacturing back to the US.

Well, even if it happens, sure, would you like a $3,000 iPhone?

This is just posturing for like tax breaks, which is why the head of Apple, Tim Cook, this week presented

to Donald Trump, the gift of iPhone glass on a 24 karat gold base.

He literally brought the president of the United States a bar of gold and is going to get favorable tax treatment.

We are living in times that historians are going to look back and go, how did people not recognize how grossly corrupt this was?

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

Well, clearly they do, and that's why he did that.

This is how you gain favor with the king.

Pat Crightlow (host)

I guess.

A gold bar.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

Yeah.

Well, did you see what happened to the White House?

I mean, you've seen the $200 million ballroom plans, and you saw the paving over of the Rose Garden, but they are enhancing the White House with all of these, like, gold.

Stickers.

Weird.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Oh, there is so much gold.

And it's just amazingly gaudy.

And I, you know, they've paved over the Rose Garden as well.

And just trying to turn it into Mar-a-Lago North, which like so many other things in this country is going to take a very long time to undo.

Well, hey, we're going to miss you next week, but have a great time in Peru at this conference.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

Thanks.

I'll sign updates.

Pat Crightlow (host)

You're going to see Machu Picchu while you're there as well?

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

That's the plan.

Two days of conference, two days of touring.

Pat Crightlow (host)

That's pretty great.

That's amazing.

But all part of the OPP tour.

Oshkosh first.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

Oshkosh Packers Peru.

Pat Crightlow (host)

All right.

Dr. Kristen Lirely (guest)

Sounds great.

And don't forget about Tom Nelson this weekend.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Tom Nelson this weekend on the Chris and Larry Show.

And then again with us at 730 Parker if we can make room for that in the schedule.

I mean

We're putting Parker in charge of the calendar.

Caller

Can we

Pat Crightlow (host)

do that?

Huh?

Huh?

Okay.

All right.

Parker's going to go back to his nap here, so we're going to wrap things up.

Thanks to all of you for being here.

Have a wonderful weekend.

I'm Pat Crightlow, founding editor of Up North News.

Up North News is the Wisconsin outlet for Courier, a pro-democracy news network building a more informed, engaged, and representative America.

Have a great weekend.

We'll see you back here Up North Monday morning, 6 a.m.

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