Fireworks from Packers and Brewers (Hour 1)

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Fireworks from Packers and Brewers (Hour 1)

Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Mon Aug 4, 2025

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Now, from our Lake WSOTA studio, here is the founding editor of Up North News, Pat Craiglow.

Pat Krightlo

Well, hey there, Wisconsin.

Good morning.

It is 6.06 on a Monday morning, August 4th, 2025.

It's another beautiful morning to have you here up north, live from Lake WSOTA, from wherever you're spending your mornings listening across the Civic Media Radio Network.

or catching us on Facebook or YouTube or by podcast or on the Civic Media app, which, speaking of the Civic Media app, I want to thank the person who sent us a voice note, but I don't think I can play it yet.

And to explain my quandary, pinching for Parker Olson today, let me

bring back to the show our friend, our colleague, our pal, our buddy Greg Bach Boys and Girls joining us on this Monday morning.

Mr. Bach, good morning.

How are you?

Greg Bach

I'm doing quite well.

Good morning.

It's Monday.

I'm awake and you're kind of

Pat Krightlo

ever so ever so slightly.

Yeah.

Long night.

I'll explain later.

But anyway, this is the part we talk about how to join the show.

You can send a text, you can, you know, put something in the comment sections.

Did you get a chance to listen to the voice note that just came in?

Greg Bach

Not yet.

I just saw it come in and I didn't want to listen to it in a way that others could in case it wasn't what they call FCC compliant.

Pat Krightlo

Well, and see, that's the thing.

You can't, you can't put up naughty words, obviously.

But you also can't, you can't.

put up stuff from another language without really clearing it first.

You don't want to like knowingly put up naughty words either.

So this, this, this is either Russian or Polish and we'll, we'll screen it later and play it.

It just made me laugh because then at the end of all of this, uh, Russian or Polish or something, it then just says, go Philadelphia Eagles.

Greg Bach

You know, everyone's

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got their team.

Greg Bach

Everyone's got their team.

You know, it could, for all we know, it could be like, I think your radio show is the worst thing in the world and you, you just spew garbage and poison.

Pat Krightlo

Go

Greg Bach

Eagles.

Pat Krightlo

You know, just from an Eagles fan, I, you know, I would appreciate that.

I would expect

Greg Bach

it from an Eagles fan.

Pat Krightlo

Yes.

Alicia calls for the sound effect of raucous cheering.

Hold on.

Let's see.

Greg Bach

Let's see.

Let me find the old, let me find the old buttons here.

Oh, no.

I'm just kidding.

Pat Krightlo

Yes.

There it is.

There we go.

And we are underway.

Parker is having an extended weekend.

He will be back tomorrow.

He was doing something with family.

Lovely.

Yeah.

He's a lovely boy.

He's a lovely young man.

I mean, big fan of Parker.

We miss you.

We're glad

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you

Pat Krightlo

get to sleep in a little bit later.

You have so much fun with Matt and air on air.

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Yeah,

Pat Krightlo

Greg and Jane Monday mornings, nine to 11.

So the media radio network.

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Nice.

Pat Krightlo

But but yeah.

But no, Parker has been just a wonderful addition as has Dom, Dominic Lee, who's down the hall from you working on the other show.

And we occasionally hear from him now and then.

So

who's ever in charge of hiring those youngins is doing a good job, and you and I haven't scared them away.

And

Greg Bach

whoever's in charge of hiring the oldins, I don't know what to

Pat Krightlo

tell you!

I don't know.

I don't know about that.

I

Greg Bach

shake my cane at the wind.

Pat Krightlo

It's not been put out to pasture yet.

So I will take it that way.

Let's see, over the weekend, anything fun before I get, maybe you watch the Packers, maybe you watch the Boomers, but before I get to those two teams and their respective fireworks, do anything else?

Not really.

We just kind of

Greg Bach

hung at home this weekend, you know, with the club being temporarily closed or just, you know, without location at the moment, more news coming soon.

It's been a lot of this summer of just trying to be home as much as possible, especially on the weekends and enjoying those Friday and Saturday night off.

You know, that those times, it's just, it's very enjoyable.

So I kind of don't do much, but if we do, it's usually running errands, seeing family, that kind of thing, but nothing crazy spectacular.

How about yourself, Mr. Sleepy Pants?

Pat Krightlo

I had a good, good weekend, a very, a very full weekend.

Yeah.

Um, but just around the house, uh, doing, doing a lot of fun stuff, uh, whether it's, you know, we dropped the top on the Jeep and made a run for some, you know, for some sweet corn and nice.

It is now officially August.

I know the calendar says August 4th.

It officially became August yesterday for dinner.

as we were having our sweet corn or locally grown from

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up

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at Clinger Farms.

So that was nice.

I got out on the pontoon.

Lovely day for a ride there.

The smoke is had lightened just enough to make that enjoyable.

Now the bad news.

I also forced my bride to go to a movie with me and I told everybody to do it.

I told everybody it was homework.

I'm now rescinding the homework assignment.

If you haven't seen Naked Gun yet, don't feel compelled.

Really?

And this is an appreciation post to Leslie Nielsen and the Zucker Brothers.

It is not a dig on Liam Neeson or anybody else who tried to put that movie together.

It was a fine movie.

Let's use that.

Let's use the F-40.

It was fine.

if you remember the original police squad, and I mean, it was just like, it was machine gun humor.

Yeah.

It was just like, rat-a-tat-tat-tat, another line, another line, another line, and they had a couple of winners.

Yeah.

But then there was, you know, and I'm trying to be fair here going, well, is it just because, you know, I'm older, I'm more cynical, I'm jaded, it's been 30, 40 years since the original.

It's like, no, I think if you compared the two of them, I'm quite certain the...

the original writing would stand up better.

So

Greg Bach

I have not yet seen it.

My friend who my friend saw it and he said he loved it.

And for me, when he loves a movie, especially when he sees in the theater, that's a big deal.

So I'm surprised to hear that you are giving it a a two and a half out of five stars.

Pat Krightlo

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

That would be it.

Again, I would I would not

I would not, if somebody was already planning to see it by all means do and then feel free to send a note later going, Pat, you're just a grouchy old man now, you know?

Maybe that's, maybe that's all it is.

Greg Bach

I've come to the realization at my advanced age and hips that

Pat Krightlo

what I like is

Greg Bach

fine and what you like is fine.

And if you don't like what I like, it's fine.

And if I like what you don't like, it's fine.

It's, and I've, I've, I've shaken off the, the whatever of

If you don't if you know like I saw that movie.

Do you like it?

I didn't like it.

What do you mean?

It's like I don't have the energy No, and I don't and I am I gonna convince you no, I'm not so yeah, I understand that I understand that especially with comedies especially spoof slash parody comedies That's a very hard genre to nail and I feel like there hasn't been a good one since the movie black dynamite You know, we've got we've had like scary movie blow all that all those movies and they're they're terrible and

I've never even heard.

Yeah, there's oh, it's a wonderful film.

It's a it's a it's a it's a spoof take on Blacksploitation films and it does exactly excuse me.

It does exactly what makes airplane and the naked gun great.

It never winks to the camera.

It never it never acknowledges the comedy.

It's always playing serious.

It's always playing for the the the genre and for the tone, which is, you know, Blacksploitation.

So it's always funny.

Pat Krightlo

Got it.

Okay.

I will definitely want to be looking for that.

Yeah No, it was a really nice weekend got a lot done around the house and yet also got a little bit of time in the hammock We've got the new lake steps are finished

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and so

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we had to had to do the the trimming of some of the you know The branches that hang down after the guys are all finished.

Yeah building the thing and so I'll hold the branch down I'll pull it down and then Sherry will take the you know the pruning

Not the shears, but whatever the big with the big long arms on there the

Greg Bach

chopper

Pat Krightlo

the chopper and chop the branch and Yeah, I I I'm still I still I'm stuck in Warner Brothers cartoons.

I've been watching bugs bunny cartoons You know 60 years expecting when she's gonna cut one of those times it's I'm like gonna be launched into the lake, you know and going I

Greg Bach

I, I, uh, I know exactly because when you were talking about it, the only thing I think of was just like something messing up and the branch is going, oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Pat Krightlo

Yeah.

That's happened or one time, you know, you don't place yourself just right and as you're pulling down on it and it cuts, you know, it hits her in the face.

Like,

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no,

Pat Krightlo

it wasn't supposed to go that way.

Sorry.

Sorry.

No.

But somehow we managed to not wound each other too much.

So that was a good thing.

Then there was the thing I was going to talk about, the the Brewers and the Packers.

Kristen Lyrely is going to be along in a bit and was definitely going to be at Packer family.

Family night, I was gonna say family fun night, whatever it is.

Family fun football night.

Yes, he was at the Packer family thing.

Yeah, and she will talk about the fireworks there.

We will get to the fireworks from the Milwaukee Brewers.

Setting a record for the number of hits in a three game series as they pounded the Nationals in Washington.

But I like that.

Yeah, the Brewers are getting a little bit more attention still, the best record in baseball with a bunch of who are these guys.

But I love that

Pat Murphy.

He's the star now.

It's not Yelich.

It's not any single.

It's not even it's not Mizorowski who sadly went on the injured list over the weekend here.

It's the manager.

You know, it's it's

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a

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crusty older guy.

He's great.

Who got national attention for the Friday night game, which was on Apple TV because the sideline reporter or whatever on field reporter asked about his in game snack and sure enough, he pulled a pancake out of his pocket.

So Pat Murphy's pocket pancakes.

We're getting some national attention.

Pat Murphy's pocket pancakes at Joe's today, Friday.

And of course there's already people already have t-shirts that they're making up from it as well.

I mean, I, I believe in other places they call that a frittata and you can, you can make other things with it.

But you know, up here in the Midwest, we just get some pancakes.

Greg Bach

I just liked it.

I'd like it for a time.

Oh, you mean a pocket pancake?

I'll get you a pocket pancake.

That's not a problem.

Uh, if I may make a quick plug for Matt and Aaron air, uh, regarding our conversation with Paul noon in last Thursday, exactly.

He talked about the brewers and gave a really wonderful explanation as to not only why.

they are the Brewers winning, but why this is not a fluke.

This is about good planning, good, good acquisitions and good rotation versus just like the bats are alive or what it's not just like, oh, we're having a good moment.

It's about a concerted effort to get good players in the right spots and it's paying off.

So yeah, last Thursday in the second hour, he definitely breaks that down.

It makes me feel better as a Brewers fan because you know, when you're a Brewers fan, you're like, all right, cool.

When's this all going to fall apart?

Pat Krightlo

Yeah, that's exactly where we are on this.

And yet, again, it comes back to Pat Murphy, who was, you know, working there with, you know, under Craig Council, who

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he

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had coached in college.

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Yeah.

Pat Krightlo

And then once Council, you know, turned coach, it was, you know, all the Murph show and he has completely taken it and run with it.

I love that people are calling it Murph Ball, or, you know, as far as their, their own brand of small ball, it's very aggressive.

And now food tips too, as Alicia puts up.

on YouTube.

Oh gosh, I love it.

Pocket pancakes.

Oh, I love a pocket pancake.

Greg Bach

Just take that pancake and put any pancake can be a pocket pancake if you have pockets.

Pat Krightlo

Right.

So good for Murph.

Good for the Brewers.

Again, they continue to have, like I said, the best record in baseball.

And they're now taking that to Atlanta.

where they will be playing starting this evening.

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And now Greg, I see that our Russian speaker

didn't send something in English.

Did you give a listen to that one by chance?

Greg Bach (contributor)

I did.

And it wasn't English.

They said, this person did say she was working for Russia.

Pat Kreitlow (host)

It says, it says, I work for Russia and yes, go Philadelphia Eagles.

Yeah.

Happy to be on your show.

I'm listening from Tyler, East Texas.

And referring to an honor.

I don't know what

Greg Bach (contributor)

to do with an honor to listen to your show too.

So

Pat Kreitlow (host)

there you go.

Let's see from the text line from Jim and Brookfield.

My daughter who lives in DC went to the Brewer's Nats game Saturday night.

She was careful not to be too obvious that she's a Brewer's fan.

Oh, trust me.

At Nationals games, you can be a fan of the road teams.

You usually will outnumber Nationals fans because, you know, Washington's an international city.

People are there from also the

Greg Bach (contributor)

Washington

Pat Kreitlow (host)

care.

Yeah.

Um, she texted me that instead of the racing sausages, they have the racing presidents.

Have you ever seen those?

Greg Bach (contributor)

I saw, I went to a nationals games last year and they are horrifying to look at.

They are very weird.

They are very, it's, they're very head heavy.

They're very,

Pat Kreitlow (host)

I don't

Greg Bach (contributor)

understand how they can run.

And also literally just, I was going to take a moment of 15 seconds of Greg griping.

Um, I don't like this whole like race, there's the racing, there's the racing presidents.

There's a team that has racing tools.

And there's the racing parochies.

I think that every time they do that, they should have to give 10% of their revenue to a charity of the Brewer's Choices for starting this whole thing.

Amen.

Pat Kreitlow (host)

Until we go back and realize that maybe we stole it from somebody we did not we invented this we invent if that's the case we

Greg Bach (contributor)

invented sausages and racing and baseball and All of that

Pat Kreitlow (host)

and I

Greg Bach (contributor)

don't know like Pat Murphy We

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did it all as for the game itself.

I mean it really wasn't even fair

Putting one of the hottest teams in baseball up against one of the doormats the Nationals no match for the Brewers who set a club record for a three game series with 56 hits over the weekend Friday's victory was 16 to 9 Saturday's was 8 to 2 and yesterday 14 to 3 That's 38 runs kids on 56 hits over three games.

Greg Bach (contributor)

I don't know who said this

But they were like, Oh yeah, and we're playing the we're playing the nationals this weekend.

So you know how it's going to go.

And I go, Hey, we don't get cocky.

I didn't realize how

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bad the nationals were.

When I said we're playing the lowly nationals, you know, I know that can always come back to bite you.

It did not come back to bite me this time.

Bryce Terrang hit two, two run homers on Sunday and get this little nugget.

Throughout the three games, every batter in the lineup reached base.

at least once.

So nobody went nobody went over on the Brewers all weekend long.

Now, not all the news was great.

While pitcher Logan Henderson did well.

The reason he was called up is because all star rookie Jacob Mazurowski was put on the 15 day injured list with a left shin bruise.

And of course, Jackson Churio is still out as well.

But

Let me give you one more of those quirky baseball stats run differential.

Greg Bach (contributor)

Yes.

Pat Kreitlow (host)

Remember when the Brewers started the season 0 and 4?

Mm-hmm.

Well, I know we're trying to forget, but their run differential at that point was minus 32.

Yeah.

They're outscored 32 runs total in those first four games.

They now lead baseball with a run differential of plus 119.

We're doing okay, kids.

That's one of the

Greg Bach (contributor)

things we talked to Paul Nunez about.

He breaks that down too as well.

It's great.

Pat Kreitlow (host)

I love it.

Love it.

Yep.

Brewers in Atlanta, Quinn Priester pitching tonight.

And then they're off on Thursday before a home series with the New York Mets.

The Midwest Farm Report is coming up next.

Then Dr. Kristen Lierly here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Pat Critello

It's 6.35 on a Monday morning across the Civic Media Radio Network.

I'm your announcer, Pat Critello, here to introduce this morning's edition of Bach in the Dock.

Take it away, Kristen Lyrely and Greg Bach.

I'm going to go to breakfast.

I'll see you all later.

Bye.

Kristen Lyrely

Ta-da!

SPEAKER_??

Good morning!

Pat Critello

There she is.

That

Greg Bach

was

Pat Critello

great.

It's

Kristen Lyrely

going to be a good week.

I'm feeling it.

Pat Critello

I'm

Kristen Lyrely

feeling like Monday optimism.

Yes.

Pat Critello

What?

Boy, do I need that.

Tell her.

I learned I learned to lesson the hard way kids last night.

What was it?

You've yelled at your kids about this and yet you've also done it yourself.

Kristen Lyrely

I never yelled at my

Pat Critello

kids.

Yeah, you have because it's at some point you you hear a noise and you go, what is that noise?

And in this case, when I finally went to go investigate the noise, I realized the thing we yelled our kids about, empty your pockets.

Here's what used to be my AirPods.

Kristen Lyrely

Oh,

Pat Critello

no.

Left them in the pocket.

Here's the thing.

Look at this little green light comes on.

The case apparently is still working.

One iPod seems to be working.

The other one seems to be trying.

Oh, put it in rice.

Put it in

Kristen Lyrely

rice.

I don't think it

Pat Critello

works that

Greg Bach

way.

Pat Critello

I

Greg Bach

don't

Kristen Lyrely

know.

Like, could it hurt?

Greg Bach

I mean, well, I shouldn't say, I did it for my phone once.

I shouldn't say that I know anything about the Air Buds pod, but whatever they are.

Pat Critello

So there's your lesson.

It doesn't matter if it's your kids or yourself empty your pockets before you go to the

Kristen Lyrely

laundry.

I don't yell at my kids for that because they do their own laundry.

And so when things like that happen, they just hide it from me.

I don't have to yell at them.

Greg Bach

The amount of the amount of chapsticks that I have washed in my life, I could.

Pat Critello

Oh yeah.

So many tissues, especially when somebody leaves tissues in their pocket.

Yeah.

And then that all shreds and everything.

So you get, you get extra duty working on the lint filter when that one's all said and done.

But

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anyway,

Pat Critello

that, that was one of many weekend adventures.

How was yours, Dr. Lyley?

Did you get to Packer Family Night?

Kristen Lyrely

Um, we went to Mile of Music in Appleton.

We went to Packer Family Night, which was fantastic and so much fun.

We did the wave like, I'm not kidding, probably six times at practice.

It was so much fun.

Pat Critello

The wave, it's still a thing.

Again, time for grandpa to tell a story.

I remember the way was brand new.

The Houston Astros were in the baseball playoffs in 1979.

You

Kristen Lyrely

don't say.

Pat Critello

And they don't say.

I was listening to the game on the 9th, Victoria.

And it was just fun.

The the the announcers were just like giddy watching this thing.

They just couldn't believe like this.

This new thing called the wave.

And now I just kind of look at it like, are we still doing this?

But obviously, if you're in the middle of it, it's a fun time.

Kristen Lyrely

We had balloons.

We were there fireworks.

It is just a big party, you know, there's there's more space to move around because it's not quite as packed so Lots of little kids jumping around the bleachers.

It's just a totally it's not like a game, but it's fun Mm-hmm, but let me tell you about the highlight of my weekend.

Pat Critello

Yes, please

Kristen Lyrely

So all of my kids were here including my oldest son Abe and Abe just happens to be a longtime Counter strike guy counter strike is a video game.

Greg Bach

Oh, okay

Kristen Lyrely

And yesterday morning was the Super Bowl of Counter Strike in Cologne, Germany.

So we all sat in the living room and watched these two teams play Counter Strike.

for about four hours, which I don't sit for anything for four hours, but it was because the boys were there.

And here are the observations that I made.

It was the ESL cologne.

So ESL is the eSports league.

Abe said, I like watching this because no one gets hurt.

And if they do, they hurt their wrist.

And that actually really does happen.

This is like a major injury in eSports is a risk injury.

So they've got this giant.

It's like it's like the beginning of a football game where they've got the music and the fire and like the fans are like

Greg Bach

and the wave

Kristen Lyrely

and no wave, no wave.

But, you know, it's all this enthusiasm.

And then these teams walk out and they are the nerdiest group of people who do not look like they feel comfortable.

Yeah,

Pat Critello

it's ever shows.

Kristen Lyrely

Yeah.

Just like, OK.

And, you know, people are like fist pumping them and they just cannot wait to get to their game chairs so that they can do their game thing.

It is, it is really an experience.

Greg Bach

Dr. Lyrely, you weren't one of the kindest, most supportive, inclusive, all of the good words people I've ever met in my entire life.

I just want to go back to almost the beginning of this story where you said, where two

teams and just that that pause of just like golfing gulping down all of your all of your like you know pride observation

Pat Critello

to

Greg Bach

show respect to I mean they're there when I watch those events like when I see clips of those events or like very niche very very niche sports events I'm like

Can't get these people to come to a comedy show come on man seriously like you really a thousand people will go see a guy throw suction cup at another suction cup And I'm like I can't get people to come see a comedian what what so

Kristen Lyrely

different drugs for different folks I mean it was team mouse versus team spirit and there was like one team was Russian and one team was German and they barely spoke English But they spoke enough to do the interviews and just watching these kids and how excited they were and then the fans were hilarious at

point they showed all the beer cups from the stadium that they had all put together the way you put cups together you know together and there was like a big

a worm of cups that people were parading around the stadium.

It was thousands of cups just nesting in each other.

And the crowd was cheer.

It was a whole thing that I do not understand, but the kids loved it.

So I was writing their momentum.

Pat Critello

Never do you see so many people handle each other's dirty dishes as you do when they're making a cup chain at a sports event.

And yet they're willing to do it there.

If I could

Kristen Lyrely

just give a shout out to 17 year old Russian MVP Donk, who really nailed it.

Donk.

Yeah, he picked up the trophy or one of his.

This is teammates picked up the trophy, which kind of looks like the Stanley Cup and suddenly realized that he couldn't handle it as it was like falling back and actually like hit him on the

Greg Bach

head.

You know, I was going to make a joke about that, but you just took it and made it work in real time.

I didn't have to do anything with that information.

Great.

Pat Critello

That's, that's classic right there.

It

Kristen Lyrely

was just, it was delightful.

I learned something new and I spent some time with my children and it was a good, good day.

Pat Critello

I'm wondering if our listener in Texas who works for the Russians was invested in this at all.

Uh, and

Kristen Lyrely

she's

Pat Critello

like, you're like, go Phil, go Eagles, go Donk.

Oh boy.

So it was, so it was a good weekend around your house.

Very active.

Mile of music.

Don't tell us what you liked about that.

Kristen Lyrely

Have you been to Mile

Pat Critello

of Music?

No, it's on my bucket list.

Kristen Lyrely

It is so good.

Wisconsin Public Television just did a documentary about it, so if you are curious, watch that documentary.

This is a four-day-long music festival that features smaller bands.

They play original tunes, they do short sets, and it is

all up and down College Avenue at the Lawrence Chapel in all these little venues.

These musicians come in, they are fed, they are housed, they bring in dentists, they bring in massage therapists, the musicians are happy, they teach them how to do financial planning and the musicians play for these diverse crowds.

There were little kids there, there were people with walkers, it was for everyone and the music was outstanding.

This is a beautiful celebration of music, of community.

I just can't recommend it

Pat Critello

enough.

that you can take care of our artists, you know, the starving artists.

They're basically, this was the Waigu beef of musicianship, that they're, they get massages, they get financial planning, they get dental checkups.

All the things that the community has decided to do for these unsigned acts that they, they keep coming back and other musicians come back and the community gets this great entertainment celebration out of it.

It's just such a win-win it sounds like.

Kristen Lyrely

It is and the food and the beer and the fun.

My cousins were actually sitting in the window at Cleo's, which is a famous

Pat Critello

bar in

Kristen Lyrely

downtown Appleton.

And they're like, we walked by, I missed them.

They Facebook message me afterwards.

But just, you know, bumping into all of the people that you bump into because everybody goes there because it is such a fun time.

Pat Critello

Yeah.

Hey, let me cover some of the day's news here and we're going to start with a clip from this particular radio show because I've noticed over time.

that and this I don't even remember the original date of this clip now but we're going back maybe a month where we play a clip from the US Secretary of Agriculture Donald Trump's Ag Secretary all about you know getting able-bodied adults you know off Medicaid and then we kind of reacted to it and throughout the course of the month I continue to see you know oh this post got a comment this post got a comment this post got and I'm still getting it from that one particular post you never know what makes a particular post

Oh, what?

Kristen Lyrely

You never know what makes Pat just magically disappear, but he did.

Greg Bach

He magically disappeared right there, folks.

But he'll be right back, but he's actually talking about there's a clip on the civic media and with Pat's show.

Pat Critello

There he is.

That was weird.

Greg Bach

Russia.

Kristen Lyrely

Hey, welcome back.

Greg Bach

Donk was

Pat Critello

listening,

Greg Bach

and he does not like who he had to say about him.

I am sorry,

Pat Critello

Donk.

I apologize.

On behalf

Greg Bach

of

Pat Critello

Pat and Dr. Lyrely.

We do the show here on a platform called StreamYard and suddenly up comes a screen going oops

Streamyard detected something went wrong.

I'm like, well, make it go back.

I was like, oops, Streamyard made something go wrong.

Yes.

Yeah.

Click the try again button.

And here I am.

So anyway, this this clip is now racked up over half a million views and so many thousands of comments.

And so I just wanted to share one of, you know, again, who knows what makes a post go viral, but people have really responded to this one.

Let's run it.

Commercial Announcer

There are 34 million able-bodied adults in our Medicaid program.

There are plenty of workers in America all

Pat Critello

day.

Here's the thing, Secretary Rollins and Derek Van Orden.

If those people are out there, it's time for you to name and shame.

And I don't mean one or two folks.

I mean, you better name and shame the 34 million bums that you say are out there.

Or otherwise, as usual, you're just making stuff up.

There you go there and there's this back and forth on you know Are there really these many millions of able-bodied people?

You know who are on Medicaid and badger care and everything who are just sitting on the couch playing Counter-Strike, you know things like that or could it be that they're you know They're wishing that it was like that and by projecting that narrative on other people it justifies making all these cuts Which again aren't cuts that save money.

It's just a transfer of wealth for you know

tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires.

Kristen Lyrely

I think that the reckoning is coming.

I think for a long time it was just rhetoric and it sounded good.

You know, cut government, lower taxes, all of those things.

They sound great.

Love that.

But when it actually is happening and rubber is hitting the road and you're starting to realize all of those things that you didn't recognize

Greg Bach

were

Kristen Lyrely

parts of that.

It feels real.

Greg Bach

And the other thing too is that that whole able-bodied commentary is so just full of malarkey in my opinion.

I don't like that.

And also, Secretary of HHS and definitely not a doctor, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

said in a press conference that people who are scamming Medicaid watch an average of 6.1 hours of TV a day.

And we still can't figure out where he got that information from and why he said it out loud.

because you didn't get it from any place.

Yeah.

Kristen Lyrely

Well, they don't back anything up.

They don't cite anything.

It is just like stuff that comes out of their mouth.

I've definitely noticed this on my social media posts when people say things and I ask for a citation.

They don't respond because

Greg Bach

it's

Kristen Lyrely

not out

Greg Bach

there.

Pat Critello

Yeah,

Kristen Lyrely

right.

But

Pat Critello

I

Kristen Lyrely

can cite everything.

I don't post anything unless I can back it up.

Pat Critello

Yeah.

And yet to this day, you know, things like the The New York Times and others are still, you know, hedging with their their language.

Let's see, I had I had one recently here.

Let's see in Oh, when with Trump firing the head of the agency that collects unemployment statistics, the president underscored his tendency to suppress facts he doesn't like and promote his own version of reality.

So he's lying and making stuff up.

Just say that stop with the

five dollar words.

The president is lying and making stuff up.

Don't give him the benefit of the doubt.

Commercial Announcer

That's

Pat Critello

all we ask.

Are you ready to hear about some combines crashing into each other?

A

Commercial Announcer

little combined

Pat Critello

demolition derby action.

Commercial Announcer

Yeah, you're

Pat Critello

gonna get that.

And today's history lesson from up north news.

Selena Heller all ahead here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

I'm Pat right now.

Kristen Lierly

and give me a kiss to build a dream on.

And my imagination will thrive upon that kiss.

Pat Krightlum

Start with a little Louis Armstrong for today's history lesson, a kiss to build a dream on from the sleepless in Seattle soundtrack.

Satchmo was born this day in 1901, passed away in 1971.

Kicking off today's history lesson.

Kristen Lierly still with us, and Selena Heller from Up North News is with us as well.

Once again, the only one who actually dresses for the show this week, it's a Jackson County Fair t-shirt that she's sporting, and is going to tell us more about the Jackson County Fair.

She only has a theme, Greg, that's what I'm saying.

Don't get worked up over

Kristen Lierly

there.

I'm just like, I didn't realize I'd go to home and get

Pat Krightlum

my fair shirt.

It was not required, although, I mean, Kristen will more often than not have some packer gear on if she's doing something related to the packers.

She's got her packer mug.

I have my

Kristen Lierly

homemade civic media coffee mug here.

Greg

Greg, you do often dress the part, though.

You typically... Slubby?

Yes, I know.

No, but like a t-shirt, some sort of a meaningful t-shirt.

Although today, you are looking very teal.

Kristen Lierly

I look like you could

Greg

shoot

Kristen Lierly

any kind of special effects on me, like a movie background.

Greg

He

Pat Krightlum

is our green screen today.

Yes, and Whiskers has shown up as well, taking up most

Kristen Lierly

of

Pat Krightlum

Selena's calendar.

Happy birthday to former President Barack Obama.

He is 64 years old today.

Film director Greta Gre...

Your wig is 42 from Barbie and Lady Bird and others.

And where are we on Meghan Markle, the former Duchess of Sussex?

She is 44 years old today.

Like, don't like, don't care, Greg.

Indifferent.

Greg

Thank you.

Yes.

Also indifferent.

Pat Krightlum

Indifferent,

Greg

okay.

Pat Krightlum

But you recognize that there are people that have very strong feelings that they're like Team Markle or Team William and Kate or something like that.

These are people who should learn.

Counter-strike or some other video game

Greg

as

Pat Krightlum

a better use of their time.

Greg

You do you people.

Pat Krightlum

That's right Let's see the number one song on the Billboard Hot 100 chart this day in 1958 was from Ricky Nelson

Greg

I love Ricky Nelson.

As I say, you're popping

Pat Krightlum

a little too much here to Ricky Nelson.

Well,

Greg

there's Ricky Nelson and there's Tracy Nelson and there's Nelson

Kristen Lierly

guys,

Greg

his twin sons who are still touring.

Kristen Lierly

I

Greg

was going to

Kristen Lierly

say, you strike me as definitely a young lady who had a Matthew and Gunner and Nelson poster in her bedroom.

Greg

I did not.

Oh, I did like them.

I can't live without their love and affection.

Pat Krightlum

Do

Kristen Lierly

you

Pat Krightlum

do that?

Do you do that after the rain?

Oh, I got nothing to add to that.

Here's what's significant about Ricky Nelson having the number one hit on the hot 100 this day in 1958.

It was the very first Hot 100 chart.

It was on this day

Kristen Lierly

that

Pat Krightlum

Billboard combined all of its different music charts.

They had music charts for store sales, for jukebox plays, for radio plays, for sheet music sales, and they turned it into one master chart called the Hot 100, and Ricky Nelson was the first one up there.

Happy birthday to former President Bartlett or actor Martin Sheen.

Take your pick.

He turned

Kristen Lierly

85

Pat Krightlum

years old yesterday.

Kristen Lierly

Martha

Pat Krightlum

Stewart.

turned 84 years old yesterday.

On this day in 1972, the movie Superfly was released along with a soundtrack by Curtis Mayfield.

Kristen Lierly

I mean,

Pat Krightlum

come

Kristen Lierly

on!

Pat Krightlum

I feel like I should have brought this up sooner when Greg was going on and on about black dynamites.

such a genre.

On this day in 1984, the Purple Rain album hit number one and would stay there for 22 weeks.

Kristen Lierly

Whoa.

Pat Krightlum

Yes.

The number one hit this day on 1975.

So 50 years ago today, the number one song was by the Eagles.

Yeah, you know this

Greg

one.

I love the Eagles.

Pat Krightlum

On this day in 1987, the Federal Communications Commission rescinded the fairness doctrine, which had required radio and television stations to present controversial issues fairly.

In other words, don't make stuff up.

It went away in 1987 and gave rise to an entire media ecosystem that relies on making stuff up.

Happy anniversary, death of the fairness doctrine.

Perfect.

Hey, if I can do nothing, I can hit the post.

There's still a little DJ in me.

It's like a Russian nesting doll.

There's a little DJ inside here.

It's time to get out.

Let's see, one more music clip.

It's from Mariah Carey, who on this day in 1990, so wow, 35 years ago today, landed her first number one hit on the Hot

Selena Heller

100.

Yeah, this was her first

Pat Krightlum

number one.

There would be 18 more, and that is still a record for a solo female artist.

So when people go, how did Mariah Carey get to be such a diva?

The 90s show in the 90s, you know?

Yeah, she

Kristen Lierly

did.

Also, just let everyone know, red light, green light after slow skate.

Red light, green light after

Pat Krightlum

slow skate.

Kristen Lierly

Couples only right now, everybody.

Couples up.

Doc, Doc, I'm looking at you.

Pat Krightlum

This is the birthday of the U.S.

Coast Guard started this day in 1790 by Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton.

Alexander Hamilton.

Never heard of him.

Greg

You can't help it, can you?

Pat Krightlum

To enforce tariffs.

The chocolate chip, it's National Chocolate Chip Cookie Day.

Oh!

Yeah.

Why haven't we been talking about this the whole

Kristen Lierly

time?

Pat Krightlum

We'll get to it.

I want to talk.

Yes, I want to hear all about your, what makes your cookies special.

Oh,

Greg

my chocolate chip

Pat Krightlum

cookies.

My chocolate chip cookies.

They're pretty good.

Greg

I have special cookies, too.

Pat Krightlum

Not good.

OK.

See, Selena, are you think special about your chocolate chip cookies?

Selena Heller

Well, hers lately, we make like tigers and things for the school bake sales or pause with chocolate chips and all

Pat Krightlum

the shapes, shapes

Selena Heller

and themes.

Kristen Lierly

Anybody else just feel like whiskers is staring death into your eyes right now?

You're watching the

live show right now, folks.

You

Pat Krightlum

just know

Kristen Lierly

what I'm talking about.

Whiskers was like shut up when my mother's talking.

Pat Krightlum

That's no different than any other look we get from whiskers.

It's just always the.

Selena Heller

But but

Pat Krightlum

very loving very gentle Thanks, I try to be nice to you one

Selena Heller

time

Oh,

Pat Krightlum

wrong one.

Darn

Selena Heller

it.

That's my first.

We missed that a

Pat Krightlum

lot.

There it is.

Kristen Lierly

Darn it.

Pat Krightlum

Selena Heller will be back, God willing.

And if Whiskers doesn't rip her face off to talk about the Combine Demolition Derby at the Jackson County Fair and much more, still ahead on this Monday morning across the Civic Media Radio Network.

I'm Pat Krightlum.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

They're 34 million.

Announcer

Live, across Wisconsin on Civic Media, you're listening to Mornings with Pat Kratlow powered by Up North News.

Now, for my Lake Mesota studio, here is the founding editor of Up North News, Pat Kratlow.

Pat Kratlow

Good morning, it is 7.06 now on this Monday morning, August 4th.

2025, nice to have you along here.

Parker Olsen has the day off, but Greg Bach is joining us here.

And so is Dr. Kristen Lierly.

And so is Up North News reporter Selena Heller.

And so is meteorologist Brittany Merleau.

Brittany, how are you?

Good.

How are you?

Good.

It was, you know, a weekend where the smoke, again, depends on where you are in the state, but it had dissipated.

just enough yesterday that you could do some of the things you want to do outdoors.

It wasn't like as bad as Thursday Friday was, but it is still, it's definitely still something that's lingering around here.

It's gonna be, I mean, kind of one of the weather stories of the summer, I suppose here.

Brittany Merleau

Yeah, it sure is.

Pat Kratlow

Here, Robin Tigerton puts it this way, Mike the farmer who leases my family farm has told me that crops are doing well, busy bailing hay, but the smoke blocking the sunshine has made it rough with the morning dew.

We noticed that as well.

You can't get out and mow the lawn as early as you normally would because, again, that that sun is just not burning through as much as you'd like it to.

Brittany Merleau

No, it's not.

You've got patchy fog to all over the place.

Definitely down towards basketball camp Douglas this morning.

A lot of southwestern areas and northeastern spots of the state.

got this high pressure system right and moved in from Canada.

It's been sitting over us all weekend.

Um, and it is still going to stay here today.

It's kind of slid over to Michigan a little bit, but another one builds in behind it and long story short, it's going to be a dry day and another smoke filled day.

So of course we have that air quality alert that expires at noon.

But it could get extended one more day.

I think by tomorrow we should for sure be in the clear from this wildfire smoke.

The winds start to pick up out of the south about 15 miles per hour.

That should be enough to kick it on out of here.

And then of course, as we go to later in the week, that whole jet stream shifts and active weather moves back in.

We've got the pattern just kind of shifting out of the south and bringing in more storms, more heat and more humidity too.

So right now it is still crisp, it is still comfortable.

temperatures are at about 48 degrees in Tomahawk, 72 degrees into Waukesha, and highs today will climb to the upper 70s to low 80s all across the state.

It is still going to be comfortable dew points.

But by Wednesday, it starts to turn muggy and by Thursday, we're getting hot and humid.

Now rain holds off until tomorrow.

We could see a few isolated showers possibly far north.

And that's about it.

As we go into later in the week, we'll see more storms.

Pat Kratlow

Okay, from Taggerton, from Rob, good morning, fair and hazy, 55 degrees.

Today I have Moine Jobs in Wittenberg.

Whenever I hear Greg's voice, I can hear him saying, drink my water.

It's almost like you could hear him saying it right now.

Greg Bach

Drink your

Pat Kratlow

water, Rob.

Drink your water.

I mode Saturday and real Taggerton got stung by a bee.

and uh swelled up around his elbow, had to ice it down.

Uh let's see he's got another note or two here from us.

Oh he had a cat at my house who had kittens in the garage where I keep my truck and lawnmowers.

I now have an army of cats outside that stay in the barn.

Uh we talked about Mike who leases his family farm.

Mike told me to say hi to Kristen.

He supports Kristen and her fight.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

So there you go.

Thanks Rob.

Hi Mike.

Pat Kratlow

I know you just

Dr. Kristen Lierly

got.

Pat Kratlow

Oh, and Rob also noted, I love Brittany's videos on social media from the adventure.

I was going to mention that to Brittany.

Did you do more than one?

I saw one on social media over the weekend.

Brittany Merleau

Yeah, I've been slowly putting them all together, so they're more and more coming out.

But yeah, got a couple of

Pat Kratlow

them.

OK, well, great.

So again, look for Brittany there on social media if you want to see what all she was talking about with the camping and the rain and the exhibitions.

The

Greg Bach

camping and the rain and the planes.

Good Lloyd.

So

Pat Kratlow

much.

Brittany, thanks.

We'll talk to you next hour.

Sounds good.

Hey a reminder that if you miss an episode of our show at any point there's a great way to make sure that you can go back and listen and that would be to pod this program head over to Spotify or Apple wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show that way you can also do it over at the Civic Media website civicmedia.us uh all right so Selena the Combined Demolition Derby I know we've we've talked about this at least once before maybe maybe a couple of times

because I don't know that they necessarily invented it at the Jackson County Fair, but they sure have perfected it.

Oh, you're on mute.

Selena Heller

Yes.

No, it's it's been around.

And, you know, we got to thinking about it.

And they've been doing it for quite a while, a lot of years.

And but it's in other county fairs.

It's in a few other states, as I was kind of looking at it a couple of years ago, where they've done combine demolition derbies.

But like a couple of years ago, they had 17 combines at the Jackson County fair.

So that was a pretty big deal.

That's a lot of combines.

Pat Kratlow

Yes, it is.

And you talk to a couple of folks who tell us kind of more of the basics about it all.

Selena Heller

Yeah, so Mark Emerson, he's 66.

He's all these farmers and Sam McNulty, their buddies, and they kind of get together and do this every year.

There's a lot of farmers and their kids now are in it and nephews and things like that.

So they're kind of all egg related.

If they're not farmers, they have businesses that are egg related or something like that.

So it's just a fun time for them.

And it's at the Jackson County Fair and there's a demolition derby, a regular derby with

and trucks and gosh, back in the day, my brothers did it.

So I got to paint the cars and then there's a powder puff.

So with girls driving too.

So my brothers always thought I should drive, but I never did.

Pat Kratlow

Nice to know you have boundary someplace.

Selena Heller

You're not gonna

Pat Kratlow

drive the demolition derby.

Selena Heller

Well, and it was the year and my friends wanted me to, I was on the Miss Jackson County Court and they're like, you have to drive in the demolition derby.

You have to do it.

I'm like,

Oh boy.

I

Greg Bach

don't know.

Oh boy.

Selena Heller

Oh boy.

Did not know you were on the court.

I was back in the day, yes.

Pat Kratlow

What about you, Kristen?

Were you in the running for Ms.

Kokana or anything like that at some point?

Dr. Kristen Lierly

I'm just trying to clear this picture of Selena driving a Combine, or maybe Whisker is driving in a very Tunisist kind of way.

Greg Bach

Tunis is the Combine driving cat.

Pat Kratlow

It always ends

Greg Bach

poorly.

Selena Heller

Well, let's put the helmet

Pat Kratlow

on.

While we play with those visuals, let's hear from Mark Emerson, who tells us more about the Combine demolition derby at the Jackson County Fair.

Mark Emerson

Well, we get a bunch of guys together, we take combine, we beef them up some, we got to take the windows out, the glass, all that stuff, and we got to just beep the heads up so the heads stay on, and we go out there and smash into everybody just to see how much damage we can do.

The last one standing is the winner usually, but we'll have heats today, so they'll take the top two out of five or six or whatever we have in each glass and run in the final, then there'll be six in the final, then the last

This one's standing as a

Selena Heller

winner.

Mark Emerson

This is a big spectacle.

Yeah, yeah.

And we make a lot of noise, a lot of crunching and stuff, banging and stuff.

The one that Sam Clingey's been tipped over twice now.

He got tipped over in Marshfield and he got tipped over in Galesville two weeks ago.

but they didn't get hurt or anything so that's a good thing and he's back here now

Sam McNulty

again

Mark Emerson

so he's going again with the same one so yeah we've been taking some of these same ones for many years I think this one I think I started 20 years ago with this then it sat for like five we didn't have any demolition and we started black over and you know so we've been here for at least 15 16 or more

Selena Heller

and these are pricey machines but these aren't ones that

Mark Emerson

are in like

Selena Heller

functioning

Mark Emerson

no they were they were out before we buy them

and unlike a lot of them, like his, you'll fix them up and then take the engine out after they're done and sell the engine and get the money back out of it and stuff so you actually don't really have much in at all invested in them.

So we have a little fun and we all get together.

We all get along really good.

Until we're out on the track.

Yeah, when we're on the track, we're competition.

But when we're done or before, we'll help each other out and when we're done, we'll help each other out.

Yeah, when we're out there, we're all all for ourselves.

Pat Kratlow

I'm assuming that was Sam that we heard in the background there.

Selena Heller

Is that Sam McNulty?

Yes, I talk to them every year.

They're the best.

I love them.

I love talking with them.

And Bill McNulty was actually the winner this year, Sam's brother.

So, and Bill is 66 also.

So, it's fun.

So,

Pat Kratlow

Sam gets, they get tipped over, but they don't get injured.

You're getting tipped over in a combine.

This isn't like mythical cow tipping.

This is actual combine tipping.

And they're not getting hurt.

Selena Heller

Yeah, they have to beef up the cages around them.

Safety is a priority.

They move the gas tanks inside.

So, you know, they're also

Greg Bach

made of different stuff than us, Pat.

They're just made differently.

Pat Kratlow

Yeah, they are.

Let's give a listen to Sam McNulty talk about it.

It's just a rush.

Sam McNulty

We're all

Pat Kratlow

farmers.

Sam McNulty

It's one way to let off a lot of steam.

Like Mark said, we're the best of friends.

But when it's out there, it's

It's only for one.

But yeah, they're all war-of-combines that we find laying at auctions or sitting in somebody's boneyard and It's it's just fun and I think I mean I shouldn't say this but the crowd loves the combines a lot better than the cars

Pat Kratlow

Oh, shots fired right there at the cars.

I think the demolition derby still does well.

Now, is it still the case?

I know a year or two ago, you told me that the ticket sales for the Combine demolition derby do so well.

It practically subsidizes the rest of the Jackson County Fair.

Selena Heller

It is typically the biggest day of the fair, so in terms of admission.

I've sell tickets into the grandstand events.

That's my job at the fair.

It has been since like high school.

So I'm at the demolition derby.

I have been at that event probably every year since high school.

And that's my job.

So the line is long.

And yes, the fair does well on that day because it's such a popular event.

People love, love, love it after all of these years.

It hasn't.

You know, waned in entertainment value or interest.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

Pat Kratlow

Do they have anything remotely like that by either one of you guys, Greg or Kristen?

Selena Heller

I mean,

Pat Kratlow

I mean, it is a breed unto itself, basically.

Greg Bach

I mean, I think that if I look, I mean, I'm sure we're seeing if I, because we're seeing County Fair, I think it's coming up soon and Kenosha County Fair.

I'm sure there's something, but a combine races, a combine demolition derby.

I don't think so.

Pat Kratlow

No, this this is and we mentioned Myla music earlier Selena and you said you've you've been to Myla music.

Did you you were there for a work thing?

Selena Heller

Yeah, can you imagine?

I got to go there and stay there and watch music for work when I worked in economic development for the city.

A team of us from Altoona, they were developing their new park here.

And so they wanted ideas.

I went there for ideas and visit Eau Claire, our kind of tourist organization went there for ideas.

So we got to go there and stay for work to learn as an example what Appleton did with Myla music.

So it was really cool.

Pat Kratlow

Which by the way, paid off because Eau Claire is, I mean, it's music festivals.

are just blossoming around the whole area.

Selena Heller

Oh, yes, we're kind of known for, you know, our music events over here.

And now all of the parks here have, and probably everywhere now in Wisconsin is really picking up on this music in the park night.

And here around here, you can go to a Sunday in Chippewa, a Monday in El Tuna, and a Tuesday in Eau Claire, and then a Wednesday.

And I mean, every night you can go to something around here.

It's pretty cool.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

There's something really cool about how the music is tied to the university there as well.

So in Appleton,

and it's obviously Lawrence and Eau Claire at UWEC and the great music program there.

Steven's point has something similar.

So just to see the music faculty and the students have a place where they can go and just like do their thing is so neat.

Do their thing in the community.

Pat Kratlow

I'm glad you mentioned the universities because over the weekend, Sherri and I went to finally had our belated anniversary dinner.

We always go to Mona Lisa on Water Street, Eau Claire.

And then we go to around the campus where we met back in 1983.

And Selena, I had not.

seen the progress on the new science building up there.

That thing is massive.

Selena Heller

I've been seeing pictures.

Pat Kratlow

It's at the bottom of the university hill there.

They tore apart, took down two dormitories from way back in the day to put up this new science building.

And it's just looking so nice, but they're also tearing down Zorn Arena, where they did basketball and all the other shows and things.

But they were like halfway done.

So exposed to the elements is like the bleachers.

and an Eau Claire logo above it.

It's just really interesting just to see all the changes around campus.

Selena Heller

Oh, everybody's nostalgic about losing Zorn.

Oh,

Pat Kratlow

yeah.

But it's a, you know, there's some nice modernization going on there.

And these universities, like Kristen said, will bring you community festivals as well.

This is up.

No, this is not.

This is mornings with pack.

Sorry, that's my fault news.

It's such a Monday thing.

We'll be back after this.

You're up north.

Pat Krightlow (host)

Back on this Monday morning at bright low Greg Bach, Kristen Lyrely, Selena Heller all here.

Uh, the Brewers, I mean, it was just, uh, it was a lot of fun to watch.

Uh, not if you're a Washington Nationals fan.

The scores over the weekend.

In case you missed them, the Brewers won all three games 16 to nine on Friday, eight to two on Saturday, 14 to three yesterday.

That's 38 runs scored on 56 hits.

the most ever in a three game series in club history for the Brewers.

And so they're still far and away.

Best record in baseball right now.

And they head to Atlanta on this road trip.

They're done in DC.

Down to Atlanta they go and the pregame will begin tonight at 540 on several civic media stations.

540 tonight, tomorrow and Wednesday.

Then the Brewers are off on Thursday coming home for a weekend series against the New York Mets.

Greg Bach (co-host)

And if I'm not mistaken, it's their fourth sweep in a month.

Yes.

Pat Krightlow (host)

I mean, and again, who are these guys?

There are Brewer.

I know, they're doing great.

Kristen, I hadn't asked yet who you had on the Dr. Kristen Lyrely show over the weekend or what you're prepping for for next weekend.

Kristen Lyrely (host)

Oh, over the weekend I had Selena Darrow on the show.

She is the executive director of Rooted In, and she's got this beautiful nonprofit that reduces food waste.

It takes all that food.

We throw away like 40% of our food.

So she's found this way to take food and repurpose it and give it to people who need it because we know that hunger is widespread even in our own Backyards so that was a really fascinating conversation and then this week.

I haven't decided yet.

I've got a couple options I'm thinking maybe Tom Nelson.

He just wrote a cool book about the admin Fitzgerald.

Oh,

Pat Krightlow (host)

yes, he did

Kristen Lyrely (host)

fascinating.

Pat Krightlow (host)

Yes, I have that open on my desktop here someplace because it Came out on August 1st.

It was published and yes, I had an advanced cop

of it here and I wanted to get through that and get Tom on to talk about the the connection between the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald and basically the you know the economy.

Yeah.

The American economy.

It's

Kristen Lyrely (host)

so many connections.

I'll let him know because I'm talking to him this afternoon.

Pat Krightlow (host)

Okay.

Kristen Lyrely (host)

I'll put you in touch.

Pat Krightlow (host)

Oh, he he knows how to get in touch with me.

He's he's he's not shy that way.

What else we got?

Selena, you got National Night Out.

I know that's always a big annual event for you.

Selena Heller (contributor)

Yes, I volunteer there every year.

So in your communities across the state and really across the country, it's a countrywide thing.

So National Night Out, it's the first Tuesday of August every year.

So you might see those things advertised.

It's where law enforcement and residents get together kind of they get familiar with each other to make neighborhoods safer.

So it's kind of to get to know your law enforcement people and firefighters and things like that.

So, you know, Claire is at Carson Park 530 to eight and there is

going to a mascot dance off.

That's one of my favorite.

What is there?

Yeah.

Where?

How?

Greg Bach (co-host)

When?

All right.

All right.

All

Selena Heller (contributor)

right.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Okay.

All right.

What did we say when mascots are mentioned, Dr. Lyra?

We take, we take a breath and we start over.

Kristen Lyrely (host)

Okay.

Greg Bach (co-host)

What did you want to say to Selena?

Kristen Lyrely (host)

Can I have some more information, please?

Selena Heller (contributor)

Five thirty.

to eight o'clock tomorrow, Carson Park in Eau Claire.

The costume?

Whatever mascot you would like.

SPEAKER_??

Okay.

Pat Krightlow (host)

Oh my goodness.

Somebody's just canceled their plans and is racing to the Chippewa

Greg Bach (co-host)

Valley for this.

Can you not have a baby for one more day?

Pat Krightlow (host)

Don't push.

Just keep breathing.

I'll be back in a little bit.

Selena Heller (contributor)

Go on my mascot outfit.

Pat Krightlow (host)

We've got

Selena Heller (contributor)

this.

Pat Krightlow (host)

Oh, my goodness.

Let's see.

Also from the, uh, from the comment sections YouTube, uh, Tony noting that with the Tom Nelson, that's the fourth Nelson mentioned by Dr. Lierly today.

Kristen Lyrely (host)

Oh, we're having a big Nelson day.

Selena Heller (contributor)

Uh,

Pat Krightlow (host)

I, I, I met, I met a celebrity over the weekend.

Oh, well, and I can't say who because it's but it's a it's a large market.

It's a large market TV personality.

And as you know, you know, we we large market TV personalities where we're, you know, we kind of

Kristen Lyrely (host)

God.

What is going on right now?

Pat Krightlow (host)

Anyway, a neighbor of ours calls and says, hey, we got my nephew who always comes up to Lake Wasota once a year and has brought some friends, come on over and meet them.

And I'm meeting these three couples, and Sherry and I are having a wonderful time, and we're all talking and everything.

I mean, they were on the boat.

So I mean, they're just, you know.

They couldn't escape.

Swimsuit, ball cap, whatever.

They couldn't escape.

And then finally, at the end, one of the guys says,

And you're, you're, you're the guy does up north news, right?

I was like, yeah, yeah.

He's goes, oh yeah, I, I do that all the time.

I, you know, I'm a reporter, blah, blah, blah.

And he, and then I do a double take and I go, you're so and so.

And he's like, yeah.

And he gets all shy and everything.

I'm like, this is guy,

Kristen Lyrely (host)

I, this guy.

Pat Krightlow (host)

You really can't

Kristen Lyrely (host)

reveal this person's name.

Pat Krightlow (host)

I don't want to.

They were on vacation.

You know, that's, that's, that's, that's their story to tell.

But I.

It was fun that after all these years, Selena, you know this, how many people are like, oh, it's Selena Haller from TV 13.

Greg Bach (co-host)

It was

Pat Krightlow (host)

so funny to have me doing that now for like

Greg Bach (co-host)

some

Pat Krightlow (host)

political

Greg Bach (co-host)

reporter.

I was fanboyed all

Pat Krightlow (host)

over.

There's only so many of us political reporters around, you know.

Greg Bach (co-host)

It was Walter Cronkite.

Edward R. Murrow in a Speedo.

Walter Winshill, what are you doing on my pontoon

Pat Krightlow (host)

boat?

It was a good weekend for that, for

Greg Bach (co-host)

boating,

Pat Krightlow (host)

for celebrity sightings, for all of that.

But I also made one grilling error.

I know I've already confessed to one error over the weekend here, the AirPods in the pocket as it goes through the laundry.

But one more that I offer up as a public service.

It was otherwise a wonderful weekend, like I said, celebrity sightings and everything.

But I'm so used to we've got a charcoal grill.

I love charcoal grilling.

And usually we've got friends, kids, grandkids, whatever.

So I always, there's also, there's a lot of charcoal in there because you're making a whole lot of stuff.

And I was making dinner last night just for me and Sherry.

And for some reason thought, well, I don't need as much.

And I don't know if anybody else has had that.

I'm sure some listeners have where the charcoal kind of like fizzles out before you can.

before the food is done, having to turn to share and go, can you start a pot of boiling water so I can finish this corn on the cob?

And being an OBGYN, I mean, she started pots of boiling water all the time.

Tell us all the things that you got to do,

Kristen Lyrely (host)

right?

Pat Krightlow (host)

So use enough charcoal.

Kristen, Selena, thank you as always.

Always nice to have you on the Mondays.

Have a wonderful start to the week.

All right.

I'm Pat Krightlow.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

We are back on this Monday, August 4th, 7.35 the time.

And off air, we're just busy yelling at Parker because it's his day off.

And yet there he is throwing comments on YouTube.

Parker, go back to bed.

Greg says, Parker says, Greg, it can't count as work if I'm laying in bed.

It's just like my senior year of high school.

OK,

Greg (co-host)

first of all, thank you.

Second of all,

You're he's 22 he's supposed to be sleeping until like 11 o'clock in the morning and stuff like

Pat Krightlow (host)

that.

Greg (co-host)

I'm the one who wakes up 40 minutes before my alarm.

That's my job as an old man Thank you

Pat Krightlow (host)

very much.

Yes.

It's what it's what we do Let's see from Jim and Brookfield on the text line.

Hi Pat Try microwaving your corn when you're caught short on the grill put the corn in a Pyrex container add a little water Cover with saran wrap and you are good to go much better than boiling in water Appreciate the tip on that one

We definitely definitely needed something.

And then for the stuffed chicken breast, again, when the charcoal was running low and I know all these people going to see that's why you have gas.

No, I like charcoal.

That's how we're doing this.

But sometimes mistakes are made.

Air fryer,

Dr. Lyle (guest)

air

Pat Krightlow (host)

fryer.

The chicken breasts were at like 125.

I had to get them to 165 starting them on the grill and then finishing in the air fryer.

Such a good thing.

Kristen's got her hand raised.

Kristen doesn't cook.

Kristen and air fryer is a countertop appliance.

That's anyway, what was your question?

Dr. Lyle (guest)

We actually got into a little bit of a domestic dispute over air fryer.

I was offered an air fryer for Christmas or a Lululemon sweatshirt, and I went with the Lululemon sweatshirt.

But that was not my question.

And there's our winner for the most Christian thing

Pat Krightlow (host)

that's going to be said this morning.

Yes, Greg.

You had a question, Dr. Lyle.

Dr. Lyle (guest)

My question was, when you grill corn on the cob, do you soak it in the husk and grill it in the husk?

Or do you husk it and then grill it naked?

Pat Krightlow (host)

I do not grill it naked.

No, just because, again, I've done the husking.

I like the husking.

I like the heart wants what the heart wants.

There it goes.

Greg, what was your

Greg (co-host)

going to say?

Two things.

One, corn.

Try once, just once.

Go with me here.

No butter, no salt, lime juice.

change your life.

Second, what I'm about to say, I want to make sure I'm saying this with all due respect to you, Dr. Lyle, this is not based on you as a woman or as a mother.

It surprises me that you do not like to cook, because to me, you seem like the type of individual who doesn't just like to cook.

You love to cook, and you would make dishes that people would be like, I want to take pictures of this.

Dr. Lyle (guest)

No, that is absolutely not who I am.

Do you know who is like that, though?

All of my children.

Pat Krightlow (host)

Good.

Dr. Lyle (guest)

All of my sons.

Excellent.

Well, yeah, they had

Pat Krightlow (host)

you or they'd starve.

Mom's giving us spaghetti-os again.

Greg (co-host)

Hey, I put hot dogs in there.

I made it international.

Dr. Lyle (guest)

I'm like a cut up an apple and eat some peanut butter kind of gal.

I like to keep it real simple.

Greg (co-host)

I'm the same kind of lady.

I do the same thing.

I like peanut butters and apples.

Apples.

Yeah, just surprising to me.

But that's good.

And you said you taught your boys how to do laundry.

I think that's very important.

I think that's all the good things.

Dr. Lyle (guest)

My job is not to coddle them and to prevent them from learning.

My job is to put them out there and teach them how to survive in the world.

And I think I've done a pretty good job.

And they don't seem too, you know, too affected.

Pat Krightlow (host)

No, that's fantastic.

Now, we mentioned it was National Chocolate Chip Cookie Day.

Do you make chocolate chip cookies?

Dr. Lyle (guest)

I do bake.

I like to

Pat Krightlow (host)

bake.

All right.

And anything special about your chocolate chip cookies?

Dr. Lyle (guest)

I have to give props to my dear friend Anne Weiland of Oregon, Wisconsin who taught me to put Crisco, half butter flavored Crisco, half butter.

It makes your cookies rise and they are delightful.

Pat Krightlow (host)

That's a great idea.

Yeah.

No cookies.

I gotta go add to the shopping list.

Mine is just a variation on the, remember Mrs. Fields cookies?

Dr. Lyle (guest)

Oh

Pat Krightlow (host)

yes.

Mrs. Fields, what the cookie recipe there calls for, along with the flour, but I'll

so some finely chopped oatmeal.

So it's not

Dr. Lyle (guest)

an oatmeal

Pat Krightlow (host)

cookie, but some finely chopped oatmeal.

And along with the chocolate chips, a little bit of finely chopped chocolate chips.

going into the batter.

So wait, there's

Greg (co-host)

oatmeal

Pat Krightlow (host)

and chocolate chips on top of the chocolate chips.

Not on top mixed in with the batter.

Interesting.

Yeah, just gives

Dr. Lyle (guest)

it a whole different

Pat Krightlow (host)

texture and a little bit more of a chocolate taste.

So there you go.

Dr. Lyle (guest)

I really love the cookies.

I really love our monster cookies because it reminds me of my grandmother and I have her recipe, which is for like one gazillion monster cookies because she was a farmwife, so she had to make a ton at a time.

So yes, so I love to make my.

What are monster

Greg (co-host)

cookies?

Dr. Lyle (guest)

Oh, it's like peanut butter and oatmeal.

Say more.

Chocolate chips and yeah.

Please and thank you.

Yes, I'll make you some.

Yes.

SPEAKER_??

Okay.

Pat Krightlow (host)

Let's see.

I want to get to something Kristen has been working on through the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists.

But before we get to that political news, let me get one state headline in from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

Roughly 192,000 Wisconsin voter registrations are deactivated during routine maintenance.

The story from Mia Thurow from the Journal Sentinel who noted that this is part of a legally required four-year maintenance process.

where these 192,369 individuals, uh, they were sent mailings regarding their registration status.

You know, some people responded, uh, it was a pretty small number here.

I want to say here it is 9,500 voters responded saying, yeah, I'm still here, but the other, you know, 190 plus thousand didn't and hadn't voted for four years.

And so they were deactivated boys and girls.

That's how it's supposed to work.

is routine maintenance and every so often you do the routine maintenance.

What doesn't work is if you're politically motivated and you run to the courts and say we demand you strike all these people from the voter rolls because we say so.

Wisconsin elections commission's doing a great job.

Let them do their job.

We have the best run elections in the country and let's say we try to keep it that way, shall we?

There's my public service announcement for today.

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, ACOG, was in the news last week for taking a particular stance when it comes to national politics.

Dr. Lyle (guest)

Yeah, they sure were.

I'm really excited about this move.

So ACOG is obviously an organization of OBGYN doctors and our job is to take care of women and in an environment where the president of the United States has issued executive orders that have really made it impossible for us to fulfill our mission specifically to take care of women and to offer comprehensive

obstetrical and gynecological care, ACOG took the unprecedented step of saying, we're not going to take federal funds to do the work that we've been doing together, which is research and public health infrastructure work and work on preventive care.

ACOG said, no, we need to take care of our patients in an objective way that we know is science and evidence based.

So they said, no.

And I'm really proud of them for doing it.

Pat Krightlow (host)

So they can do that.

And how are they backfilling, I guess, is one way to put it.

Dr. Lyle (guest)

You know, they have a foundation.

We have members who pay dues.

So for the time being, that's where those funds will be coming from day by day.

We'll see what happens next year.

In the past, it has been, we've received millions of dollars from the federal government.

You know, throughout COVID, there were times where we partnered and there have been extensive partnerships with the federal government.

There have been a number of different initiatives that we've worked on together, and those initiatives are still there.

It's just the funding piece that's gotten very tricky when you're working with the Trump administration.

Pat Krightlow (host)

Well, and I'm sure this is a little bit of apples and oranges, but when you look at what's happening with colleges,

and universities, and their research funding.

And this is research funding.

There's nothing political about the research that can, you know, save lives, develop new products for the economy, and all of that.

But in the, you know, the the MAGA war on education, and really, that's all it is, don't tell me it's about indoctrination or socialism or whatever, it's a war on higher education.

And in doing so,

They're putting an end to the funding that puts an end to all kinds of federal research.

They are endangering the visas of foreign students.

Congressman Tom Tiffany was in the headlines recently for, you know, seconding that thought of targeting all these people with student visas and running them out of the country, you know, on behalf of what?

You know, some xenophobia.

But these are colleges and universities that have foundations and

That can't replace all of the federal funding.

But it is still a little puzzling to me that so many of these colleges and universities are acquiescing, shall we say, to what the Trump administration is demanding.

And that groups like ACOG can say, uh, no, we just don't need your money anymore.

Dr. Lyle (guest)

We really, it would have been a huge hit to who we are and the work that we do if we had continued to take that federal money.

But you know, I'll tell you, I just spoke with a friend of mine who is a specialist in St.

Louis and she is a researcher and they have moved their lab to China because they can't get the federal funding here in the United States anymore.

And in order for them to continue doing the important work that they do in preventing the spread of infectious disease.

They've got to go somewhere else.

So this is millions of dollars in research leaving the United States now going to China.

which doesn't feel good given, you know, the relationship that we have with China and the Chinese government, but, you know, they don't have alternatives.

And we're seeing this happen all over the country.

Pat Krightlow (host)

Yeah.

The Trump administration, of course, is trying to take this all as some kind of a victory.

And HHS spokesperson says, this is great news for the American taxpayer.

ACOG taking itself off the federal payroll might be the most responsible budging decision that they've made.

Whatever, dude.

There's a reason why.

governments, responsible governments would invest in public health and research and things like that.

And again, it's not like you're saving the taxpayer any money, spokesperson dude, you're just giving that money to the wealthy through tax cuts.

So stand down.

Dr. Lyle (guest)

Yes, and let's remember that women's health in this country is not in a good place.

I mean, we've got the highest maternal mortality rate.

More women die as a result of their pregnancy in this country than in any other developed country.

Not by a little, by a lot.

So we've got a lot of work to do, but with the loss of this federal funding, with so much of the dismantling that the Trump administration has done in our healthcare system, we can anticipate that our outcomes...

will be worse and it's going to take months to years to be able to see the effects.

Pat Krightlow (host)

As noted by Axios, ACOG is one of the few medical associations—I'm sorry, let me say that correctly—ACOG is one of a few medical associations vocally pushing back against Trump and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'

's health policy.

Health care during pregnancy has become a flashpoint.

Kennedy has removed the recommendation that pregnant people get COVID-19 vaccines, and a recent advisory panel to the FDA cast doubt on the safety of antidepressants during

pregnancy.

ACOG said the composition of that panel was quote alarmingly unbalanced and there's robust evidence showing the medications are safe during pregnancy.

The group boycotted a June meeting of Kennedy's handpicked vaccine advisory committee saying that a purge in June of the panel's 17 advisors compromised its credibility.

Dr. Lyle (guest)

Yes.

Yes.

That is just true.

Just all

Pat Krightlow (host)

of it to do doing the right thing.

Dr. Lyle (guest)

Yeah.

I mean, the American College of Pediatricians is actually suing the Trump administration over their vaccine recommendations because it's hurting kids and the pediatricians are the least political.

They don't even have a political action committee.

But they know that it is making it harder for them to take care of their patients.

We know that when ACIP does not recommend vaccines, that insurance companies won't pay for vaccines.

And that means that these life-saving

literally life-saving vaccines for children will not be covered by insurance.

So we are having to take drastic measures.

These are really, really uncomfortable times.

Pat Krightlow (host)

Yeah.

And look, it's easy to classify this as heroic, but it really is just standing up for what's right, which we need more of at this critical time more than ever.

Dr. Leighly, so great to talk to you again.

See you on Friday, we hope.

Sounds good.

Dr. Lyle (guest)

See you then.

All

Pat Krightlow (host)

right.

Have a great start to the week.

Coming up, a local update is next for some of you.

For others, we're going to talk to Jimmy Kuska a bit and then in our next hour, John and Gordy from our Civic Media Station in Madison and then Sean Fetaplace from Main Street Alliance on giving small businesses a voice the way they're being hurt by Trumponomics.

That's all ahead.

I'm Pat Krightlow.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

Gordy (host)

Well, go back.

It's a Monday morning and Jimmy Koska, Civic Media Sports Director is with us.

How was your weekend there, Jimmy?

Jimmy Koska (Civic Media Sports Director)

I spent my weekend in downtown Madison taking in soccer.

So my kid is big, big into soccer, which is awesome.

He spends a lot of time working on getting better at it.

But the forward Madison FC had a seven on seven tournament this weekend.

So we had a couple of teams come over from basketball to go hang out, took in a forward Madison match on Saturday.

you know, going full mango.

So it was pretty fun, uh, except for the air quality being just awful.

So

Gordy (host)

yeah, that would not be fun.

All that running around, um, or even just being outside as a spectator, but you got a little sun in the process.

Jimmy Koska (Civic Media Sports Director)

Yeah.

A little bit.

It's good prep for what I got to deal with now with high school football season starting officially at midnight tonight.

So midnight.

So here's the funny thing about high school football, because the WIAA doesn't start until Tuesday.

There are teams that actually do midnight practices on this first night.

We're not one of them.

But you'll see if you go on social media tonight at 12.01, you're going to see a bunch of high school football programs, a few dozen around the state.

They're going to have their lights out.

They're going to be practicing at 12.01.

uh overnight here uh just to get just because it's the first time you could actually be on the field together officially for practice you know

Gordy (host)

the midnight madness thing when I first it was college basketball is where it first you know started with ncAA teams would do a practice at midnight because that was what the guideline was they were marketing it that's all fine and good but I don't know high school football practice at midnight just because the rules say

I mean, you're just begging for them to change the rule to noon or something like that.

But

John (host)

I guess, I guess

Gordy (host)

if you, if that's how you want to get attention is, you know, bending the rule a little bit or something.

John (host)

Trying to see if my old high school does that.

I'm like, Oh God, they try to give me a

Jimmy Koska (Civic Media Sports Director)

few that do it.

It's, it's, I mean, it's kind of a fun novelty away, but I know for me, I don't want to be coaching football at 12, oh one.

I just don't

Gordy (host)

know.

No, no, I'd rather be bright-eyed and bushy tailed first thing Tuesday morning and have at it.

So I'm, I'm guessing years will be five AM tomorrow.

Jimmy Koska (Civic Media Sports Director)

So we are actually an afternoon practice team because of the way our schedules work out.

Most of the coaches aren't actually school employees.

They have day jobs like myself.

So we do ours in the afternoon, but it is so much fun with high school sports arriving this week with practices starting for football around the state.

Believe it or not, our first fall sports high school.

competitions, not football, but just at any sport, swimming and diving, which is already next week.

We already have fall high school sports competitions next week in Wisconsin.

Gordy (host)

Okay.

fall seasons are coming.

So I mean I will just transition over to Packers Family Night after that and whether it's something that you watch and can we glean anything from the practice?

It always strikes me as just more of a fun little scrimmage but you know maybe maybe somebody shows a flash of something that gets everybody excited for the regular season.

What are your impressions?

Jimmy Koska (Civic Media Sports Director)

I mean, that's pretty much it.

It's a fan driven event.

It's a practice above all else.

And you're not to go too out Iverson on you, but it's practice.

You're not going to remember anything that happens at this.

Gordy (host)

Practice.

We're talking about

Jimmy Koska (Civic Media Sports Director)

practice.

Not a game.

But what can happen in these is injuries.

And the Packers did spend most of their time addressing just a couple of the people who went down with a non-contact injury, run into somebody, things like that.

That's the risk of anything in a contact sport is somebody gets hurt.

That's really the only thing.

If nobody gets a serious injury in this, that's your win, right?

That's your W on the calendar.

It didn't sound like there any serious injuries, just some usual ding.

and dense from a normal practice.

So that's probably the best news for Packers fans.

The other best news for Packers fans, obviously, too, is, hey, this Saturday, preseason starts.

We are in the football season.

We have preseason football this Saturday.

Gordy (host)

Are we

Jimmy Koska (Civic Media Sports Director)

playing at home?

Do you know?

Yeah, so the Packers will play and you'll hear this on on our airways They are hosting the New York Jets this

John (host)

week.

They're playing basketball high school

Jimmy Koska (Civic Media Sports Director)

Speaking

Gordy (host)

of practice then batting practice that is essentially what the Brewers were doing this weekend in games against the Washington Nationals, but the Nationals again, you know, they they won the World Series just six years ago and then

it just immediately sank and they're just a doormat now and the Brewers hit a record 56 hits over the weekend scored what 38 runs with the winds of 16 to 9 8 to 2 and then yesterday 14 to 3 Bryce Drang had two two run homers on Sunday uh it wasn't a fair fight jimmy but it was fun to watch

Jimmy Koska (Civic Media Sports Director)

It's funny in baseball.

I mean, it's a sport where there's, you know, no salary cap, right?

It's just what teams can afford.

And we see that impact with a team like the Minnesota Twins who had a fire sale ahead of the trade deadline.

Everybody, it felt like left Minnesota Twins last week, right?

John (host)

And that's,

Jimmy Koska (Civic Media Sports Director)

that was, that was so weird to see because that's another Midwestern team.

But here are the brewers.

And in the last decade plus.

They have been extremely competitive, having one of the best records in all of baseball in the last, you know, 10, 15 years.

It is remarkable what they've been able to do at fielding competitive team after competitive team.

A stat I saw just randomly on social media over the weekend was that if you remember back the first four games of the season, the Brewers, that's something like a minus 34 run differential, something crazy like that, which was like a record for worst if or like four games of the year, right?

Well, the pictures I gave up most of those runs,

They were like six of them that gave up most of those runs.

None of them are with the Brewers anymore.

John (host)

They

Jimmy Koska (Civic Media Sports Director)

remade their whole pitching staff on the fly this year to the point where they've called up Jacob Izarowski, who was out for 15 days as it turns out with a Brewers shin.

But it's amazing how they've remade themselves and become extremely competitive now in first place, obviously, in the NL.

So the best record in the NL.

Best run

Gordy (host)

differential as well.

It's now

Jimmy Koska (Civic Media Sports Director)

plus 119.

Yeah.

And that's amazing for that start of minus 34.

I mean, it is incredible where we're at with this.

I think the most important thing we learned though from the Brewers this weekend is that their manager randomly just has food in his pocket.

Gordy (host)

I love this.

Jimmy Koska (Civic Media Sports Director)

Pocket

Gordy (host)

pancakes.

I love the fact that the Apple TV reporter, because the game was on Apple TV Friday night, Trisha Whitaker asks about his snacking and he pulls a pancake out of his pocket and shares with her.

which props to her for sharing somebody's pocket

Jimmy Koska (Civic Media Sports Director)

pancake.

That is so awesome.

I love it so much.

Pat Murphy is, I don't know, he's my spirit animal.

I love

Gordy (host)

it.

Oh, he is such a symbol for the whole weekend here.

Quinn Priester is pitching tonight.

Pre game starts at 540 tonight, tomorrow and Wednesday evenings.

Jimmy Koska, thank you for the check in.

We appreciate it.

I think

Jimmy Koska (Civic Media Sports Director)

you guys take

Gordy (host)

care.

All right.

Coming up in our next hour, we're going to talk to Sean Fetaplace from Main Street Alliance.

That's the group of small business owners looking out for what small business wants in public policy, not big business.

And the small business places actually want to take care of their workers.

We'll have that and much more.

John and Gordy and another check of the forecast.

SPEAKER_06

Live, across Wisconsin on Civic Media, you're listening to Mornings with Pat Craiglow powered by Up North News.

Now, from our Lake Mesota studio, here is the founding editor of Up North News, Pat Craiglow.

SPEAKER_04

It is 806 on this Monday morning, August 4th.

It is nice to have you back here up north live from Lake Wissota and all across the state.

Parker Olson is normally producing this shindig.

Instead, Parker's taking an extended weekend.

We know because he's heckling us in the comment sections on YouTube.

But Donna's sitting in in this place over in Studio A1.

Although, what is the correct term there?

The studio's A1, but the control rooms have like some other designation, right?

SPEAKER_03

I'm too new.

I don't even know.

Honestly, I don't even know.

I wish I

SPEAKER_04

okay.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

That's okay.

You weren't told there would be a pop quiz here.

So we will we'll let you go with that.

But but Dom's here pinch hitting meteorologist Brittany Merleau is here.

And of course, John and Gordy from their civic media morning show six to eight in the Madison area or catch it on the civic media app.

So Brittany, let's just get going with you because this is am I right that this is going to be one of the cooler, not cooler, but this will be it's going to get warmer from here.

Yeah,

SPEAKER_01

pretty

SPEAKER_04

much.

We've got to warm up throughout the course of the week.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, we are.

So

SPEAKER_04

higher temperatures, less smoke, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, that's the plan.

Let's hope it sticks to that.

It's going to get sticky,

SPEAKER_04

right?

As sticky as a Pat Murphy pocket pancake?

I mean, because that's what I'm hearing from Alicia's.

Still, she's envisioning that sticky pockets, that poor equipment manager who's got to deal with Murphy's pocket pancakes.

I don't know that he puts syrup on it though.

I wouldn't do that.

I'm getting no support for the pocket bank.

Not in your pocket anyway.

Please continue with the sticky weather.

You were saying.

SPEAKER_00

OK, so a little bit like syrup.

That's what we're going to be feeling like later on this week and into the weekend sticky.

But until then, still battling some of that wildfire smoke and haze still lingering and air quality alert, obviously still in effect until noon today.

It might get extended one more day for parts of the state because.

The high pressure system is still here.

It's only moved over a little bit towards Michigan, but it has taken some of that wildfire smoke and moved it off more towards the eastern parts of the Great Lakes.

But it is still unhealthy in towards Milwaukee, the Fox Valley, even into Madison right now.

A little bit of relief far northwest where it's not too bad, more at a moderate level.

So as we go through the afternoon, high pressure still here.

clear skies.

Besides the haze and the smoke filled out there on occasion, you could see it burn off a little bit.

Highs will hit the upper seventies to scraping the low eighties today.

So very comfortable humidity staying tame.

It starts to increase by Wednesday.

We'll start to feel pretty muggy on Wednesday, becoming humid on Thursday and those temperatures hitting near 90 degrees as we go into the weekend.

So yes, that is returning, but still staying comfortable up until today, tomorrow.

And we'll really start to feel that midweek, but patchy dense fog still possible in places this morning again overnight tonight and tomorrow morning.

A lot of sunshine south today and a few more clouds hanging around up north today.

SPEAKER_04

Does the increase in temperatures bring back like any shot at like thunderstorms, things like that?

Oh,

SPEAKER_00

yeah.

I wasn't trying to depress everybody, though.

Oh, no, no, no.

It's OK.

We are

SPEAKER_04

noticing we've loved this nice spell of weather, but you're starting to see that in the lawns

SPEAKER_00

and things

SPEAKER_04

going, all right, a little rain wouldn't be the worst thing.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

It looks like, like, Wednesday night.

We should get some of that Thursday, Friday and to the weekend, too.

SPEAKER_04

All right, Brittany, thank you very much.

Appreciate it.

Great.

SPEAKER_00

You're welcome.

All

SPEAKER_04

right.

Hey, remember, if you miss an episode of this show, you can always catch it as a podcast head over to Spotify or Apple, wherever you get your podcast.

You can also listen through the Civic Media website, civicmedia.us.

But we'd love to have you as a follower for this show and all of the fine Civic Media shows that certainly include John and Gordy down there at WMDX in Madison.

Guys, how are you this morning?

SPEAKER_07

We're good.

Doing all right.

SPEAKER_04

How are you,

SPEAKER_07

Pat?

SPEAKER_04

Pretty good here.

You know, it was a very busy weekend, but it was just all around the house, so partly productive, partly relaxing.

Folks who missed it earlier, I've already confessed to not forgetting to take my AirPods out of my pocket until I heard all this banging from the dryer as I was trying to fall asleep last night.

Finally get up home.

What is that noise?

Yeah, you know, you know, it's like is it is it, you know from jeans, you know, sometimes the the buttons.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

Yeah,

SPEAKER_04

like that.

Right.

I see the air pod case and then I see the left air pod and I see the right air pod.

I know they've gone through the washer.

Yeah.

I'm like, this can't be good.

But I just tried them during the news and

Holy cow, airpods, they can go through a washing machine.

SPEAKER_05

That's

SPEAKER_04

amazing.

It still works just fine.

So

SPEAKER_05

the case, does the case charge those?

The

SPEAKER_04

case charges them.

Okay, and that still works too, right?

Green light on it, still holds the charge.

Wow, can't believe it.

I know.

Apple

SPEAKER_05

doesn't stand up well to anything, but okay,

SPEAKER_04

I'll go with

SPEAKER_05

that.

SPEAKER_04

I'm not a big

SPEAKER_05

fan of Apple,

SPEAKER_04

so.

I joined the cult a long time ago and now I'm kind of trapped in it.

I mean, I've seen like, I've seen like people's galaxy.

phones and others and I've been jealous.

But I'm like, you know, I got all if I change the one, I got to change them all see how they get you.

I

SPEAKER_05

have that galaxy right here.

If you're on if you're

SPEAKER_04

watching, I have the fold.

SPEAKER_05

Yes,

SPEAKER_04

I

SPEAKER_05

do.

So

SPEAKER_04

those fold screens, they really work.

SPEAKER_05

They really do work.

There is one problem with them, though.

The screen protector doesn't last as long as the actual screen that comes with the phone.

That's the sad part.

So eventually in about a year, I'll

peel that thing off and I won't have the protector on anymore.

You can take it someplace and have another one put on, but that costs a little bit of money.

Can't

SPEAKER_04

do it.

All these things cost a little bit of money now.

That's true.

Yeah.

What'd you guys do over the weekend?

SPEAKER_05

Well, let's see.

I was watering plants because you brought it up with Brittany.

SPEAKER_00

You

SPEAKER_05

know, it is starting to get dry again.

If you get a new tree, they need constant watering.

to establish those routes.

So that's what...

I was doing, man, the neighbors were asking me questions.

They just love my work out in the yard.

I just appreciate that

SPEAKER_04

work

SPEAKER_05

ethic.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

The other,

SPEAKER_07

the other thing that started up this weekend, I haven't gone to any of these shows yet, but the, it's Madison comedy week here.

SPEAKER_04

So there's

SPEAKER_07

something like 80 to 90 to maybe a hundred comedians roaming around Madison, going to nine different venues and performing for, for the folks and our producer.

Dom went to a big comedy show.

Nate Bergotsky was at the

SPEAKER_03

Alliance Center.

In

SPEAKER_07

fact, he did two shows there.

You went there.

SPEAKER_03

I went to the first one and he said,

big name.

Honestly, I didn't even know about him.

I went with my parents.

And yeah, he was he was awesome.

He was awesome.

He talked about comedy on on state.

And I was like, hey, we're we're right above there.

You know, I should have got up and, you know, should have said my name and everything.

SPEAKER_05

So I

SPEAKER_03

should

SPEAKER_05

have done that.

SPEAKER_04

If Nate Porgazzi is like selling out arenas.

SPEAKER_05

Yes.

Well, if everybody's familiar with him, I mean, he's done a Saturday Night Live bit a couple of times now playing George Washington, creating words crossing them.

The

SPEAKER_04

four Americans.

Talking about how we'll have a system of measuring things.

It'll be called miles.

All the weird quirks that we have here.

That

SPEAKER_05

is great stuff.

SPEAKER_04

He's a funny guy and he's just from all reports, a genuinely nice person as well, which you don't see enough of there.

So Dom, you said you were not familiar with him, but.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, now I definitely am and my parents definitely put me on the Nate Bregazzi train because now I'm going to be listening to him all the time now.

I

SPEAKER_05

think he's got a bunch of specials on Netflix if I'm

SPEAKER_03

not mistaken.

SPEAKER_05

We watched one where his daughter went up on stage and introduced him.

That was very cute actually.

SPEAKER_04

It was really

SPEAKER_05

neat.

SPEAKER_04

I think it's just great that here's a parent turning on their adult child to something cultural.

Mom, dad, can you put down Lawrence Welk long enough to listen to some of this modern music?

And instead, we're schooling them.

So that's good.

Well, you knew that

SPEAKER_05

he wasn't going to swear very much because his daughter's very young and she went up on stage.

So it was a great concert.

And by the way, you kind of see this guy.

He's really good.

SPEAKER_07

He's very, very funny.

SPEAKER_04

He works clean, which is always great.

It's like there's always like the next one that works clean like Jim Gaffigan comes to mind.

Yeah.

Yeah.

When he got when he got big and again, just doesn't have to go down that road at all.

They got plenty of people doing it.

It works for them.

But if you can find that lane, you can get mainstream appeal in no time if you're funny, you know.

Well, so this this Madison Comedy Fest, does it is it for any kind of a benefit or is it just a case of all the comedy clubs get together and

This is a great little.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, I think

SPEAKER_04

it's a second option.

Yeah, I think it's just

SPEAKER_07

it's just mainly for the comedians and promote some of the venues.

And, you know, like Dom mentioned, we're two floors above comedy on state, which is the comedy club that's been here, I think the longest in Madison.

But there are several other venues around.

And I think they they do this every year.

And it there's some sort of.

competitive thing going on with it as well.

I don't know how that all works.

But

SPEAKER_04

you've been doing you've been doing Madison local radio here for what, 75 years?

Yes.

So have you over the over that time combined?

Have you had comedians on the show and it because I haven't and it strikes me as one of those things where they feel like they have to do it.

But that's not their body clock.

And so they're not necessarily at their best or or conversely, they're great.

Have you have you had comedies?

on your shows in the past?

SPEAKER_07

We

SPEAKER_04

have.

SPEAKER_07

It's

SPEAKER_04

tough.

SPEAKER_07

Like you say,

SPEAKER_04

it's not really in their

SPEAKER_07

wheelhouse.

It's the time of day and then there's no real live audience to work.

Yeah, we're not

SPEAKER_05

that live.

SPEAKER_07

So it's a tough venue for

SPEAKER_05

them.

A little

SPEAKER_07

older.

Now we have had them on and we've played some of their clips.

If they've got a CD or something like that.

do some of that.

But usually it's not the greatest thing

SPEAKER_05

for

SPEAKER_07

them.

SPEAKER_05

We've had Mike Mercury on a few times way back in the past, very local.

And this morning, first thing, we invited any roving comedian to stop in on the show and do their thing.

But we haven't gotten anybody knocking at the door.

They're not awake

SPEAKER_04

at 6 AM.

You said

SPEAKER_05

there's

SPEAKER_04

like

SPEAKER_05

80,000 of them walking around the city

SPEAKER_04

here.

Look, if anybody that does specialize in early morning comedy, I mean, they've got to get a radio station.

You

SPEAKER_02

may as well get paid

SPEAKER_04

for it.

SPEAKER_02

That's

SPEAKER_04

right.

And do it that way.

Whereas comics wandering off the street, that's very brave of you.

I don't know that I

SPEAKER_02

could do that.

SPEAKER_04

and say, sure, anybody that wants to just stumble in, we'll give you a microphone.

That usually describes like a hostage situation or something like that.

But

SPEAKER_05

a lot of times it seems like

SPEAKER_07

that.

The other good thing about today is that it's National Chocolate

SPEAKER_04

Chip

SPEAKER_07

Cookie

SPEAKER_04

Day.

Oh, what do

SPEAKER_07

you got there?

Our receptionist, Megan,

SPEAKER_04

brought these cookies in at

SPEAKER_07

the last minute right before the show ended.

So we've got something to look forward to for the rest of the day.

When

SPEAKER_04

I first saw those, I thought, oh, are those from Insomnia Cookies?

Just down State Street from you guys.

Have you ever been to Insomnia Cookies?

That's from the metro

SPEAKER_07

market,

SPEAKER_04

so no.

Oh, no.

Those are good, too.

Don't get me wrong.

But Insomnia Cookies, it's a national franchise.

And it's, you'll find it in college towns.

They specialize in, they're like the Domino's Pizza of chocolate chip cookies.

They will deliver freshly baked.

Cookies

SPEAKER_02

did not know that or you can go to their

SPEAKER_04

store and get them and I mean, you know, it Freshly baked cookies.

I mean, is it possible to have a bad one?

I just don't know So they

SPEAKER_05

I don't think so

SPEAKER_04

every time I'm down there I have to wander down and get that and of course You think you're just gonna get a chocolate chip cookie because it's national chocolate chip cookie day, but oh no, there's you gotta get

I end up with one of everything.

I know, I know.

And then I get home, you know, and Sherry's like, what'd you bring?

I'm like, well, you know, honey, it was a 200 mile drive.

It's three hours.

SPEAKER_05

And

SPEAKER_04

just say they were day old

SPEAKER_05

cookies and you got a good

SPEAKER_04

deal.

Yeah, you wouldn't have, you wouldn't have liked them.

Yeah, you wouldn't understand.

We're talking with John and Gordy from our Madison station, WMDX, catch them weekdays six to eight, either in the Madison area or on the Civic Media app.

A local update is next for some of you and others will continue.

to talk about our weekends and week plans and what John and Gordy have planned for their shows as well.

But first, a quick note for you about the weekend with the Milwaukee Brewers in case you missed it.

I mean, it just wasn't even fair what these guys did to the Washington Nationals over the weekend.

16 to nine on Friday, eight to two on Saturday, 14 to three yesterday.

So they still have far and away the best record in baseball and now they're on their way to Atlanta.

playing Atlanta, starting at 540 the pregame tonight, tomorrow and Wednesday evening on several stations across the Civic Media radio network.

I'm Pat Crite.

Well, you're up north.

Pat Krightlow

news is a separate entity from civic media but gosh how we love this partnership weekday mornings from six to nine a.m.

and up north news is part of courier newsroom outlets in several states newsletters podcast video products and of course our own daily newsletter sign up for it at up north news wi.com click subscribe in the top banner there's also a sunday morning wisconsin politics newsletter that i put together and the question of the week this week in our sunday newsletter is whether

Blue states should retaliate when red states like Texas continue to gerrymander their maps.

Texas lawmakers met last week in a special session not to take care of flood relief victims.

Oh no, no, that'll come later.

First it was Donald Trump told them to gerrymander the map and add five more Republican congressional districts.

So they did.

Or at least they're in the process of it.

Some of the Democratic legislators are going to leave the state for a while to

call attention to this uh but california and other places are saying well you know two can play at that game and they'll add five democratic seats my question of the week is is that what they should do should blue states you know engage in gerrymandering to offset that or you know two wrongs don't make a right and don't sink to that level

People have very strong opinions on this and they are responding to the Sunday newsletter or you can send us an email as well But again subscribe to the newsletter up north news wi.com John and Gordy and down all with us now from studio a1 down there in Madison and Well, I'm gonna

John and Gordy

I'm gonna sink to that level Okay,

Pat Krightlow

and go

John and Gordy

away and promote Jurymandering in the Democratic states.

I mean we tried to take that high road

A lot of people, you know, passed these separate commissions in order to do the redistricting.

And that was all fine and good.

And we, you know, we look good, but now we're getting killed after doing something like that.

And with this kind of plan, we never thought this would ever happen.

A president would direct a state to redistrict in the middle of the 10-year process.

And then...

take the advantage in Congress and do this to a number of states and maybe even take out 15 Democrats, that would lock in a minority, basically, in Congress and they would have control of the country while Trump is in control.

That's a very scary prospect.

Really scary.

Pat Krightlow

It makes sense.

Again, on its face, it is, as I like to say, corrupt cartography.

I finally get to use a word that I haven't used in 30 years.

But you would not normally say, well, we got to sync to that level, but otherwise it's the proverbial bringing a knife to a gunfight.

And that is the political age that we live in now.

There were a lot of demands that people like Governor Evers try to do even more to...

blunt all of this Republican obstruction and things.

The governor quite frequently took the high road and John, were you working with, what did the governor recently do?

What, an interview or a town hall or something as he's starting to wrap up his term?

He

John and Gordy

actually, in this state, the Democratic Governor's Association met.

And

Pat Krightlow

they had a

John and Gordy

whole bunch of governors here in the state, and I had cuts from Kansas Governor Laura Kelly, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, obviously Tony Evers, and a few other governors.

But it was fun.

Pat Krightlow

You want

John and Gordy

to play any of those backfors?

Well, you know, I put three hours in, editing all of

Pat Krightlow

that stuff

John and Gordy

up, and I didn't save it.

Oh my I must have replaced it with the next recording I wanted to edit up.

So anyway, I don't have it I'm gonna go through the whole process again because it was really really

entertaining and the thing here is that all all these governors made their comments about gerrymandering but when governor evers got up there you know governor evers always slips in one of those profanities that you just love to hear him say i'm gonna miss that when he's gone i'm gonna miss it and all these governors that you know they smirked and they smiled and when he said this uh this word it wasn't a bad word or anything but uh

Pat Krightlow

you know

John and Gordy

he said he was pissed and that and and that's uh and that grew uh that

drew a few smiles

Pat Krightlow

from the other because the the kindly governor uses a naughty word there.

Yes.

Yeah.

I mean, that's it's part of his stick and and it works.

But when you talk about, you know, losing things like that, of course, we've all been guilty of that where something doesn't work right in the editing software or anything like that.

But the story I think of most frequently that's related to that.

And this goes way back now when when Sherry was in med school and we had a neighbor who was like taking

graduate classes or something.

Single mom, she's trying to, you know, take this class.

And I get this knock on our apartment door at like 6am or something.

And her name, she's just tearful.

And she's like, you know, you know anything about computers?

Yeah.

Remember, computers still really knew there in the, you know, mid 90s, early to mid 90s.

And she had one of these early word processors.

And I remember her showing it beforehand.

She was so proud to have this word processor and she was doing the whole thing.

And she did an all nighter.

working on this paper that was due and she went to have it printed and somehow it just deleted.

the whole thing was gone.

And you just all you felt, you know, because we we've all had something like that, but never with stakes like that, where you've pulled an all nighter

John and Gordy

and lose the whole thing.

I have a similar story to that.

Exactly.

I had a little processor and I did this entire article about the women's professional baseball league.

I interviewed a woman and I had all of this stuff put together.

I finished the article.

It was fantastic.

I went to print it and bam, it all deleted out.

I didn't have it.

and my wife is a writer, she said, you gotta just retype it now, just go add it again.

I did, and I submitted it to the Capitol Times here, the newspaper in Madison at the time, they were printing papers, and they made it their headline front page story.

And

Pat Krightlow

they

John and Gordy

didn't make any edits.

Wow.

Yeah, redoing it over immediately helps.

The second

Pat Krightlow

version must have been better than the first.

The second version

John and Gordy

was probably darn good.

Pat Krightlow

Actually, there is something to be said for that.

Yes, you were able to make the revisions in real time.

Yeah.

And get it all done and not overthink it.

Like, just get it done.

Just bang this thing out.

So well, good on you guys.

John and Gordy, you can catch their show in Madison, either on the radio or through the Civic Media app.

Look them up on the Civic Media website.

And like everything else, you can catch

episodes as well.

Guys, thank you so much.

Hope you have a great start to the week.

John and Gordy

Thank you, Pat.

Pat Krightlow

Always a pleasure, Pat.

Thank you.

All right.

Good to see you.

When we come back, we're going to talk to Sean Fetaplace from Main Street Alliance about small businesses and how they're getting impacted so far in these early months of the Trump presidency.

I'm Pat Krightlow.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

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you

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Hey, welcome back.

It's Monday morning.

It's August 4th, 8.35 the time.

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And this morning's edition, if you had missed the story earlier, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recently completed an investigation about how a pizza restaurant somehow had pizza dough

that was laced with THC, the chemical in marijuana that gets you high.

Turns out there was an ingredient mixed up as a result of sharing storage space with a licensed cannabis vendor and the oil containing THC somehow got into the pizza place's dough and made several people feel not so good.

not not the good kind of high apparently but you can read more about that in our newsletter and as well there's a feature on 10 historic buildings in Wisconsin that are older than Wisconsin itself predating statehood and those buildings are still with us and Selena Heller has a report on childcare provider

Kareen Hendrickson and her decision to close her doors, something that a lot of small businesses have had to deal with.

The child care crisis, the lack of action by the legislature to help small businesses like child care centers, all that and more.

Keep up with what we do over at upnorthnewswi.com.

Sean Fett of Place is very familiar with all of this, working for Main Street Alliance.

Sean, good morning, how are you doing?

Sean Fetaplace (interviewee)

I'm good.

How you

Pat Crightlow (host)

doing?

Good, good.

And again, you know, Karine Hendrickson's story is one that we've been telling here for a while, but it's emblematic of childcare providers around the state and small businesses around the state.

Sean, this has not been an easy first, what, six, seven months of the Trump administration for small businesses in Wisconsin.

Sean Fetaplace (interviewee)

That's right.

On January 20th, the day after the Office of Management and Budget dropped a bomb, which was that they were cutting grant programs all across the country.

That impacted folks who were ahead start here in Dane County, it would have impacted a thousand families actually.

But we also had a lot of members who were part of programs that benefited from government funding.

And so that's been huge.

We actually have now sued the administration seven times because they keep breaking the law, whether it's federal layoffs,

They've laid off huge amounts of the SBA staff.

They're gutting our civil society.

And we're fighting back our organization, our members like Kareen, who thank you for all you've done to highlight her story, really are working to make sure that we're holding the administration accountable and we're holding elected officials like Derek Van Orden and Brian Steele accountable as well.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Yeah, because again, for folks that haven't, we haven't talked about Main Street Alliance for a while here, but, you know, this is not your big business agenda here.

And between, you know, a lack of access to healthcare, the childcare crisis, rising tariffs, a lot of what's happening through the Trump administration may be good for, say, a Fortune 100 company, but their view of their workers and of what they need from government.

is not the same as what businesses on Main Street need and that's a big part of Main Street Alliance's role is reminding state and federal lawmakers that you've got a whole bunch of members that have a different mindset than the big boys on Wall Street.

Sean Fetaplace (interviewee)

That's right and you know it wasn't small business owners standing behind the president like Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk and others during the inauguration.

Apparently our pocketbooks aren't

big enough to be able to do that.

And so our membership, we have about 2,000 members in Wisconsin.

And they're being absolutely decimated right now, whether it's the tariffs or something that your listeners really need to be aware of is that

A lot of the bad stuff and the big, ugly law that passed, they essentially put the goodies on the front end, like the cuts, and then getting rid of benefits and stuff later on.

Medicaid, for example, is one of those programs.

However, the enhanced tax credits and the Affordable Care Act marketplace, where tens of millions of people get insurance in this country, those cuts are going to affect open enrollments in November, and the actual cuts go into effect in January.

And for many, many folks in the state, that's going to raise their premiums by as much as 97%.

It's going to mean tens of thousands of people in our state losing coverage.

And we're going to make sure that people know who's responsible for making that happen.

Pat Crightlow (host)

And it's good that you raise that point that everything in the Trump mega bill is on its own different timeline when these cuts happen, when all these things unfold, there will be ways throughout the coming years that will point back to this Trump mega bill as having that kind of an impact on them.

And so that explains why you've been convening, you know, these, uh, forums across the country with small business owners, with advocates as well, to tell them what that the, you know, the mega bill may have been signed and everything, but that's, that's no reason to just say, well, I guess that's that and walk away.

There, there's always action to be done either to undo this or to fight for something else.

Right.

Sean Fetaplace (interviewee)

Yeah.

I think that the first thing is that the Republicans, when they come back from their August vacation to, um, DC.

There are getting cold feet on some of these cuts on the Affordable Care Act marketplace because they realize that if tens of thousands of people lose coverage in their districts or if their coverage goes up by twice what it cost before, it's going to be very easy to point out who did that.

Derek Van Orden is a perfect example.

Because of the way the marketplace is done, more rural areas tend to get more generous subsidies for technical reasons.

And so you could see folks see the premiums go up per year in this district by between two and four thousand dollars a year.

And that is real money.

That is money that folks will not be able to afford.

And so

Looking ahead, I mean, that's going to be something that we're really going to pound the payment on.

We've been organizing folks, not just in Wisconsin, but we, I recently went to Iowa, went to Minnesota.

We have folks from Virginia and Virginia and North Carolina and Michigan through our 1000 Main Streets program to bring people together to learn about this stuff.

And we actually do have a call tomorrow.

If you go to MainStreetAligns.org and go to events, we have a briefing on the impact of the big ugly bill and what you can do to fight back.

So we're working to make sure that folks are aware of what's happening and they know how to

contact and impact their lawmakers.

I can't hear you.

That

Pat Crightlow (host)

would help if I hit that mute button there.

Once again, I was looking at the website, MainStreetAlliance.org, which kept me from looking at my mute button over here.

And noticing the approach to small business.

Again, I think of like Governor Evers when he was doing his Main Street bounce back grants, that this was going directly to small businesses on the Main Streets across the country.

And while those voices are small, there are so many more.

small businesses then there are the big ones and it really is just a matter of helping all of these entrepreneurs understand that putting their voices together they can fight for these things that should be higher priorities in in Madison and in Washington.

So you've talked about at the federal level

holding Brian style and Derek Van Orden, you know, to account for them.

Does that include, I mean, will there be like public events or is it more just outreach and asking people to, you know, write to their member of Congress and let them know their dissatisfaction with what's happening?

Sean Fetaplace (interviewee)

Yeah, so I would say, I'm not on you, right?

Okay.

What I would say is for the two of them,

To Brian's credit, he did hold a town hall.

He got a year full the other day, but at least he held one Derek is in is what might as well and be the witness protection program.

He doesn't show up for anything and so Yeah, I definitely show up when people have public events right op-ed right LTE Talk to the local media about how you're being impacted If you get connected to us we get our website and sign up.

We've been really at the forefront

of the fight against the tariffs and against the health care cuts.

Our members have been featured and seen by over 15 million people in the last a couple months across the country on these issues.

And so getting into the press, getting to be able to talk to them directly and then getting involved in local elections.

You know, there's going to be primaries.

I know there's a primary in the third CD between Becca Cook, Emily and Lisa, believe it is.

you know, get connected to somebody and, you know, show up and make your voice heard.

And the case with Brian's district as well.

So that's the thing I would say is that like letters and phone calls are great.

But to be honest with you, neither of them really listened to those things.

So you need to get out into the public sphere.

and really have them feel the political accountability for doing wrong by their constituents.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Yeah.

And that's Emily Berge, Laura Benjamin, Becca Kudrow, running in the Third Congressional District Democratic Primary at this point.

We're talking to Sean Fetaplace from Main Street Alliance.

You can learn more at MainStreetAlliance.org.

One of the discoveries that small businesses are making, some of them who had been, say, Trump supporters, was thinking that everything that they were saying about tariffs

was somehow going to be good news for them because they're a small business and if they if more people buy american because of the tariffs it would be good for them and i'm picking on one particular business the montana knife company because their ceo was so i think illustrative of where we're at right now taking that view of oh yeah the tariffs are going to be great for small businesses till you realize

He's got to, he's an American manufacturer.

Yeah.

But he's got to import the steel that he's using to make these knives and suddenly realizing, oh, wait a minute, these tariffs are going to hit everybody in some way, shape, or form.

Sean Fetaplace (interviewee)

Yeah.

He also asked for special treatment for his business, which I thought was pretty interesting, considering that, you know, you look at smooth howly, which caused arguably helped push us into depression.

You look at these current tariffs.

One thing that was extremely frustrating for me

in the early days of like post-liberation day, and the sort of very chaotic, you know, very, I would say, impulsive announcements that have been made ever since with Besant and Howard Lawton cheerleading the president's economic literacy, is that the way this is being done is really dumb.

These tariffs, like there's a time and place for tariffs for national security reasons.

China is a bad actor, and they've done a lot of things that still need intellectual property or other things.

And there needs to be some accountability there.

However, doing a carte blanche, 30%, 50% tariff, a lot of profit margins.

If you look at Walmart as an example, which is a very big business, right?

They have huge production, huge scale.

Their profitability is around 6% or 7%.

And that has to be disclosed to shareholders.

And so if they're only that profitable and you look at 30% tariffs,

That the math doesn't math.

And so what's been happening is that people have been selling an existing inventory and so they haven't had her jackup prices yet.

And they're also in a wait and see period.

And if you look at the jobs report that just got released last week, it showed essentially that part of the reason why the jobs data was not good is because so many businesses closed and didn't respond to the survey.

And so that shows that this is having a huge impact.

It's starting to show them the data and it's only going to get worse as we head towards the holiday season.

Pat Crightlow (host)

Over at the Main Street website, the event that's most recently listed is Main Street Academy, how to make lawmakers listen, scheduled for tomorrow.

Looks like you're still taking signups for that if people want to learn more.

Sean Fetaplace (interviewee)

That's right.

Anybody, whether you're a small business owner or an ally, all are welcome to join us on that call.

Pat Crightlow (host)

All right.

Anything I forgot to ask about, Sean, I haven't talked to you for a while.

I want to make sure I'm caught up on everything Main Street Alliance is doing here.

Sean Fetaplace (interviewee)

Yeah, I would just say that looking ahead as an organization, we always will be focused on policy and the things that impact our members.

We are getting a lot more involved in the electoral process.

We were involved in five state legislative wins last cycle.

There's a real opportunity to get a trifecta in our state in 2027.

I wanted to say kudos to the governor.

That was not an easy decision for him, but I think ultimately it was his decision and there's a huge slate of really great folks who are going to be running.

So we're going to be working to engage

those folks running for governor, running for lieutenant governor, running for state legislature over the course of next few years to hopefully have a state government that prioritizes the needs across the government and not just in the governor's office for Main Street small business owners like the folks we serve.

Pat Crightlow (host)

It would be nice to see even better priorities in the next 2027 state budget.

Sean Fetaplace from Main Street Alliance.

Great to catch up with you, Sean.

Thank you so much.

I'm glad you were free today.

Sean Fetaplace (interviewee)

All right.

Thanks, Pat.

Take

Pat Crightlow (host)

care.

All right.

Yep.

Have a great day.

When we come back, we're going to talk to Jane Mattenair about what's coming up on Mattenair on air, along with Greg Bach.

Weekday mornings from 9 to 11.

That's followed by Tom Hartman.

And then, of course, the Todd Alba show from 2 to 4.

And then Maggie Dawn from 4 to 6 Nightlight with Pete Schwabba in the evenings.

So much reason to stick around here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

I'm Pat Crite.

Well, you're up north.

Pat Cright

I heard Greg Bach earlier, first couple hours of the show while Parker was off and now Dom has been filling in for the past hour, but Greg didn't go away.

He's just prepping for Matt and Air on Air along with Jane Matt and Air coming up next year on the Civic Media Radio Network and Jane is here now.

Jane, good morning.

How are you?

Good morning, Pat.

Good morning, Dom.

I am great.

Oh,

Jane

you're

Pat Cright

Monday and beautiful day in Wisconsin.

That's what we tell ourselves.

We're doing great.

It's Monday.

We're

Jane

fine.

Exactly.

Yes,

Pat Cright

it's all good.

Even if it isn't entirely because I don't know if folks are still familiar with the Winnie the Pooh story about, you know, having so much honey and then getting stuck in the hole trying to get out of his place and then everybody has to push or pull poo bear to get unstuck.

You got a baby bird with a problem like that.

Jane

Okay, here's my this is driving me crazy.

So we have a light on the side of our garage door.

Sure.

Years ago, a Robin built a nest on top of the light.

which I thought was great until they hatched and then they started dive bombing me every time I came out of the garage door.

I started coming out of the garage with an umbrella because they were just going until the babies left.

So I put a little birdhouse up there that the Robbins couldn't fit in and I thought, huh, I've foiled you.

Well, now I have a bunch of sparrows that use that.

This is my dilemma, Pat.

All right.

The birdhouse is shaped like an A, okay?

And the hole is in the front.

And there's two little sides that are open.

I have a baby bird who stuck his head out the side, not the front hole, and now he's stuck.

Pat Cright

instead of using the front door.

No, I'm gonna try this thing out the side and now it's stuck like poo bear

Jane

with a honey pot.

Yes.

And now he's stuck up the side of the garage.

This kept me awake until one o'clock last night.

So now when I get home, I'm gonna try I'm gonna get a ladder and climb up there and try and pull the birdhouse out without breaking the little furry bugger's neck.

And then, I don't know, I'm gonna have to try and saw the top off so we can get out.

I don't know what I'm gonna do with this thing.

I feel

Pat Cright

like we need a crossover episode here if we could get Selena Heller back here with her cat whiskers.

We could maybe have, you know, solve.

Two problems at once.

You know, whiskers

Jane

can have

Pat Cright

breakfast.

Jane

Aren't there agencies that do this?

Isn't there someone I can call?

Yeah, but I don't know if they'll

Pat Cright

do it for a baby bird who, you know, made a poor choice after eating too many worms and couldn't figure out which door to use.

Jane

But I feel like I'm responsible and I can't leave them up there because...

He's either going to strangle the death or he's going to die of starvation or something.

So this, yes, this is what kept me awake most of last night was was Darwin the baby bird.

If

Pat Cright

he makes it, that's what I'll call him.

Jane

His name will be

Pat Cright

Darwin.

Yes.

All right.

So that sounds like that that was the highlight

Jane

of your weekend, huh?

Pretty much that was my I am I the only one who worries about stuff like this?

This this literally kept me awake until one o'clock in the morning.

Pat Cright

I, you know,

Worrying maybe but I mean we've all had our little dilemmas but mine happened with some flying squirrels

Jane

where we

Pat Cright

were taking down a tree you know a mature tree but it had aged it you know it was it had many holes that many critters were using it had become a condo basically sure and it was getting to the point where it had to come down so we had a local tree company come in because they do some other trimming because we have a lot of trees on the lot

And so they were gonna bring down this old practically hollow tree.

And I get a knock on the door and it's one of the workers saying, there is still a family of flying squirrels

Jane

inside one of

Pat Cright

these.

Do you still want us to do this?

And my answer was, uh, yeah, they don't pay rent.

They're being evicted.

It's time.

So, but they took such great care instead of just chopping the tree down, they, they rigged it up because they had a bucket or whatever bucket truck.

And so they tied a strap around up at the top and then wrapped that strap around another nearby tree.

So that basically once they cut it at the bottom, they could very gently with that strap

Jane

set it down.

Pat Cright

So as it's coming down.

keep in mind I did not even know we had flying squirrels until

Jane

these guys said

Pat Cright

it and out pops at least one of these flying squirrels you know and they open it up and you got the wingspan on there and they're they're pretty small they're only like you know five inches maybe something like that and then down the bank you know toward the toward the lake he goes and you know makes this you know it was very impressive like okay we we have flying squirrels who knew and so we thought well

He said, what do you want us to do with the tree when it came down?

And I was like, well, we'll just send it down the bank and just our luck.

It's probably still a critter condo.

It's just likely.

It's just horizontal instead of vertical.

Now I'm going to admit, I didn't lose sleep about this, but I did get a good story out of it, knowing that we now have flying squirrels, you know?

Well, he's staring at me every

Jane

time I go out to the

Pat Cright

garage.

Unknown

It's like.

Pat Cright

Help me.

Help me.

It's

Jane

singling you out.

It is.

It's like

Pat Cright

you.

Hey, landlord.

I got a problem here.

I got complaints about this place.

The side door, it's stuck.

OK.

Well, we'll be looking for that update from Jane later on.

But meanwhile, she's got other things to do from 9 to 11 this morning.

Jane

Like

Pat Cright

what?

Jane

Shelly Pittman, Civic Media's news director is going to be joining us after 9 30.

There is much going on.

We're going to be kicking around some things, including voting rights.

We're also going to be talking about the Corporation for Public Broadcasting that has announced that it will be shutting down now that the Trump administration has pulled out the funding from PBS.

In hour number two, Pat, we'll lighten it up.

We're going beyond the cheese with Amy Gorski from Poppy Bakery in Milwaukee, beyond the cheese, our segment where we like to highlight businesses outside of the dairy industry.

And then we're going to wrap it up as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing today.

It's the It's Your Versed Nightmare Edition.

Pat Cright

Your Versed Nightmare Edition.

Jane

Your Versed Nightmare Edition.

And at 1030 for Audio Sorbet, we might talk about saving wildlife in your

Pat Cright

backyard.

Or not.

Or not,

Jane

as the days

Pat Cright

may be.

Right.

Good luck, Darwin.

We hope this goes as well as Melissa Kay's Pigeon Quest, Rescue

Jane

and

Pat Cright

Pigeon.

Jane, thank you so much.

Have a great day.

you as well.

Thanks a lot, Pat.

All right.

Take care now.

And so thanks to all of you for being a part of things today.

Tomorrow on the program, I believe Dan Hagen will be back from vacation and we'll also talk to a guest in our way up north segment from the Lake Superior area.

Chad Holmes will be along as well to tell us more about what he's covering at 98.9 WXCO over there in Wasop.

I'm Pat Cright, the founding editor for Up North News.

Up North News is the Wisconsin outlet for Courier, a pro-democracy news network, building a more informed, engaged, and representative America.

Have a great Monday.

We'll see you back here.

I believe Parker Olson will join us as well.

6 a.m.

Here, Up North.

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