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Now, from our Lake WSOTA studio, here is the founding editor of Up North News, Pat Craiglow.
Hey, good morning.
It is 8.06.
It's nice to have you here.
Today, I'm Up North in Oshkosh.
Live from Oshkosh at our Civic Media Station, WISS, and I thank them again for their hospitality, for the coffee, for the donuts, for the abundant sunshine.
which Parker Olson produces our show here.
And he does so from an interior room in Madison's Studio A2 compared to here in Oshkosh, where I don't know if you caught it earlier.
I did.
The sun.
There's there's a certain point where the sun comes over a tree here across the street, Main Street here in Oshkosh and doesn't quite get out of the view of the window.
And for that time, I am a deity or angelic or being
being fried to death by a magnifying glass like an ant on the sidewalk.
And
finally was able to swing the curtain over.
You
were
impressively bright.
I was.
I was.
Yes.
Nobody's going to accuse me of that any other time except when that happens.
Those teeth were shiny.
But it was it is a lovely day here.
It's a lovely studio.
And we we thank again our civic media friends for their hospitality as we get around.
You know, we were back here in the Oshkosh and Green Bay areas.
weekday mornings and we are very pleased to be so.
Hope we're doing a good job for you.
We've been talking a lot about the Oshkosh area.
We talked to the Winnebago County Executive.
We talked to the Vice Chancellor and Provost at UW Oshkosh and we're going to talk to a Fox Valley State Representative, Lee Snodgrass, in just a moment.
First a reminder that meteorologist Brittany Merleau is taking the day off to enjoy life at the EAA Air Venture.
We saw her enjoying it, roughing it in that tent.
I'll tell you, it was probably not her most comfortable night last night as I was coming up here early this morning from Beaver Dam.
And again, why Beaver Dam?
Because it was the closest place to find a hotel room to get here.
But as I was driving up, super humid, super foggy, and I hope that they were able to enjoy the night as best they could before another day here at EAA Air Venture.
But even without Brittany here Rob writes in good morning from Tigerton cloudy skies 56 or 66 degrees He said at the time that it was very foggy He has since updated that to say the fog has lifted a mode of few lawns in the Tigerton area got done with the final yard and then downpour hit and Let's see he
got down to the Zion Lutheran Church where his parents got married.
He's got to mow areas in the world, Tigerton today.
After all, the fog burns off.
He did give an update to say the fog is lifted in Tigerton, but it's still cloudy and 67 degrees.
Tigerton had just over a half inch of rain yesterday.
Tigerton being 65 miles north of Oshkosh.
We appreciate the directional on that, Rob.
Thank you very much.
So again, Brittany will be back on Monday.
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State Representative Lee Snodgrass of Appleton joins us now to talk a bit about issues that she's working on in the Fox Valley and in Madison League.
Good morning.
How are you?
Hey, good morning, Pat.
Nice to be here.
It's so nice to see you again.
And of course, we've got the news of the day to start off with.
Governor Evers' announcing yesterday that he will not be seeking a third term in 2026 opens up a wide primary from both parties for governor.
But let's stick with the governor's announcement first and your reaction to Governor Evers saying that he will not be seeking that third term.
I think the governor is doing what's right for him and his family right now and I completely support that.
I think Tony Evers is going to go down as a governor who prevented a lot of horrible things from happening and I had a front row seat to that.
Never was there a more powerful veto pen and I'm excited about what's coming up in terms of new candidates, new opportunities to put another Democrat in the governor's office.
Well, especially when you consider not just the gubernatorial primary that's coming up in August of next
but the Lieutenant Governor primary, that's an entirely separate beast.
You don't run as a running mate until after the primary when you see who won the Lieutenant Governor primary.
You could see wide open races if Josh Call or Sarah Godluschi decide to run for Attorney General or Secretary of State.
If those become open seats, and of course a whole lot of legislative seats are gonna be out there as well.
You've been County Chair of the Out of Gamey County Democratic Party, so you have
senior share primaries.
And
so I want I want your thoughts on primaries because there there are those who work so hard to have them not happen and see them as inherently bad that they suck up resources and they can lead to party divisions.
But I don't think that that's always the case.
And I think given that we may see a lot of primaries next year.
I think we need to you know have an open mind about you know some primaries might
might be divisive, but other primaries are healthy.
You know, I think we did a pretty good job last time.
I remind people that Governor Evers was one of, I think, a dozen candidates that were running.
And, you know, I remember, because I was county party chair, everybody had their favorite, and it stayed ultimately pretty positive.
You know, towards the end there, there were a few barbs, which does tend to happen.
But in the end, I think all of the candidates sort of flexed their muscles a little bit, were able to
articulate their points better for people and that's great for voters.
So I actually think primaries make people stronger.
I understand the arguments.
I've been part of a primary myself when I ran for state senate in 2018.
I had a primary candidate.
It can be a little annoying.
It can be harder for fundraising.
But ultimately you come out a stronger candidate and better able to articulate your message to voters.
Well, and
you're going to want that because the elections next year were going to be pivotal anyway.
Democrats were already looking at the possibility of a trifecta now with fair or fairer maps of winning control of the assembly and or the senate and holding on to the governor's office.
So a primary might only help those matters.
So
How do you talk about the stakes of 2026 when you're talking to voters about what they could see after 2026, depending on how the voting goes?
How much differently or perhaps how much better things could be in Wisconsin?
Well, I mean, we're kind of following on the heels of what Minnesota did.
We're really going for that trifecta.
We have a real opportunity in the Senate and in the Assembly, a little harder for us in the Assembly, but we're not we're not afraid of that hard work.
And then, of course, holding on to the governor's office.
So this is, you know, we say it every time this is the most important election in Wisconsin.
But unfortunately, we live in a state where every election has really, really high stakes consequences.
And this is certainly one of them.
We have to hold
on to the governor's office if we're going to go for a legislative majority.
The most tragic thing really would be having that legislative majority and not being able to get anything done.
The Republicans have sort of fought against that a little bit with Governor Evers.
And like I mentioned before, he was the only person really keeping some horrible legislation that was easily passed from becoming law in the state of Wisconsin.
We're talking to state representative Lee Snotgrass of Appleton.
And of course, all this news coming literally days after
the state budget debate was settled and the state budget was signed.
There was this agreement between Governor Evers and legislative Republicans.
We have certainly covered it at length, both the good and the bad.
And, you know, in each case, you've had people explaining, you know, what ultimately tipped the scales for them to say, okay, I can support this or no, I just can't support it.
You came down as a no vote and talk about what led you to that point.
For me, the no vote was really easy.
I had some kind of deal breakers as a politician and representing my district.
One of them is making sure that we have public education in a really strong place and not having an increase in general aid.
When I talked to my superintendent and I said, hey, is this special education reimbursement going to be enough?
Is this going to help you?
We're still going to have to go to referendum.
And we really need to make sure that we have that general aid.
The other one was child care.
I spent the entire last summer talking to child care providers, both in-home and group-centered child care providers.
And while it was a little bit better than it was going to be, there was going to be nothing in the budget.
So I am very appreciative of the governor and Senator Hasselbein for their negotiation.
The fact of the matter is that's going to end in a year.
We're going to be right back where we started from.
And that also comes with some really bad policy strings attached.
We're going to increase ratios.
And we're going to have young people who may not be ready for the job able to be certified as child care teachers.
So where do we go from here?
The state budget's done.
There's still a session to be held through the fall and into early spring of next year, theoretically, depending on when Republicans want to go home and start campaigning.
But there are still plenty of bills out there, plenty of work to be done.
What are some of your priorities post budget?
I think this September you're going to see a lot from our office and some other offices on the other side of the aisle in regards to election bills.
Voter access, making sure people who are living with a disability have better access to voting, making sure that we sort of work with our clerks.
I've had a pretty good working relationship with Representative Scott Krug.
We're going to continue to try to find some common ground together on really strengthening Wisconsin's election process.
OK, I'm glad to hear that there's the potential for bipartisanship in that.
How do I put this?
I mean, I'm glad you're
doing it.
Just be honest.
Do it.
I'm glad you're putting it out there because a record has to be made of what we can do.
But I mean, are you doing this thinking that you're going to be able to force a vote and get these to pass, or at least just put the contrast out there of what we could have in Wisconsin to make elections better?
Legislating in the minority in Wisconsin is a challenge because almost everything that we introduce doesn't even get a hearing and get out of committee for a vote, much less to the floor.
We do have to continue to find those pathways.
People put us here to put our ideas out there and to have solutions.
And soon enough, we're going to be in the majority and we want to have that record of legislation that's ready to go.
This is part of it.
There are, though, in the space of democracy, I will say, some lanes where we can find agreement.
It's very rare.
We still disagree and argue, but I think you'll see that there will actually be some bipartisan bills going into that committee and coming out onto the floor.
I think that was part of my my hesitancy was to avoid expressing the frustration.
And yet, thankfully, you went ahead and did it, that there are there are a lot of Democratic bills that do not even get the courtesy of a public hearing.
And folks going, oh, it's always like that.
No,
most definitely he was not.
This is a pretty recent development, you know, the, you know, within the past decade of Democrats not getting bills, even even a public hearing, unless you can find some kind of a
bipartisan co-authorship on there.
So I mean, you're already starting to put some cracks in the barrier that used to be there for the longest time.
I'm sure you feel that has something to do with the working relationships you're starting to develop having been there for a few years now.
Yeah, I mean, I was part of the COVID class.
So when I came in, we were already isolated and part of being effective in politics is building those relationships.
So I feel like I was behind the eight ball.
My class was, but, you know, you do start to, as horrible as the headlines are, we have to work together as colleagues.
And we do start to see the human side of one another.
And I know on certain issues, you know, where I can find some common ground.
Representative Elijah Benke was on my pollinator bills.
That's the first time a Republican has been an author.
on those bills with me.
He are things that matter to has always been somebody
I might disagree with them on 98% of other things, but I do look for those pathways where we can find some bipartisan work to do.
And honestly, if you can't be bipartisan about pollinators, seriously, I thought you found such an opening for some real conversations about things that are good for everybody and for our natural resources and beyond.
Lee Snodgrass, state representative from the Appleton area.
It is always such a pleasure to talk to you.
Thank you for joining us this morning.
Yeah, have fun in Ashkos.
Thanks for coming up.
And join it very much.
Have a great weekend.
Take
care.
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Our story on our website upnorthnewswi.com that I posted there late yesterday about the governor's decision reads in a love letter to Wisconsin.
Tony Evers explains why he won't run for governor again.
He said that he was confident that he would win a third term if he sought it, but has decided to retire after 50 years in service.
He wrote, here's the truth, Wisconsin.
The only thing I love more than being your governor is being a husband, a dad and a grandpa.
Mary and Kathy is the greatest accomplishment of my life because it gave me a lifetime with her.
Three amazing kids and nine incredible grandkids.
For five decades my family has sacrificed to give me the gift of service.
They're my world and I owe it to them to focus on doing all the things we enjoy and love doing together.
It's why Wisconsin I will not be running for a third term.
As I was on my way here to Oshkosh it's when we
Got word that the governor had made that announcement and I already had a pre
previously scheduled interview with Senator Tammy Baldwin.
And so minutes later, I was here at the studios of WISS and all set up and talking to Tammy Baldwin about some legislation she's working on to help make sure that water supplies in rural Wisconsin remain clean.
We're going to hear all about that come Monday.
Naturally, I first had to ask her about the announcement about Governor Tony Evers and here's what she had to say.
Working with him to support public education has been such a joy.
I'm certainly going to miss him, but I'm certainly going to look forward to the year and a half that we still have to work together on behalf of the people of the state.
I'm jazzed as hell for him to get the next chapter in his life.
His statement mentioned, well, he titled it A Love Letter to Wisconsin, A Love Letter to Kathy and his family and to Wisconsin, and really hits on notions of public service, which for all of the bare-knuckle politics that goes on in this day and age, it seems like a nice reminder that
The whole reason you're supposed to be doing what you're doing, him, you, others, is about service.
Senator, I have to ask, I have to do my due diligence.
Is that a post that you might be interested in considering next year?
I know that we have a very well qualified group of folks who I'm sure are eyeing.
the possibility of running for governor.
And I look forward to that.
But you know, I'm focused on a very important job I have here in Washington DC, especially in these times where our very democracy is on the line.
And I am very honored to be in this fight and that Wisconsinites entrust
me with being their voice in Washington.
Senator Tammy Baldwin there and then of course since the news Lieutenant Governor Sara Rodriguez has now announced that she will run for governor.
Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley said he is preparing to announce a run for governor and there will be others that I'm sure will be tracking I would say over the next days and weeks but
I think days might just be the best way to put it.
People are going to want to get into this race pretty early, get their name ID up, start raising money because there really is no presumptive front runner.
When it was a wide open field back in 2018, Tony Evers was the one everybody was looking at.
He was state superintendent at the time.
And people said, well, if he gets in, he'll probably be the nominee.
But he gave no indication.
He was playing at Koi for the longest time.
And at that point, about a dozen candidates got in the race before Tony Eever said that he wanted to run for governor.
This time around, no real presumptive favorite.
Some names that you know.
Some names you don't know are going to be running here.
Parker Olson is our producer in Madison Studio A2.
And it's time to play.
Parker is so young.
There's our, there's our, that's, that's the name for a new game here.
So,
based off this thing called who died this week.
So
go.
Okay.
Uh, I know, but it's, it's, it's been a week.
Five has different names to share with you.
The most recent Hulk Hogan professional wrestler.
You're familiar.
Yeah, I mean, and he would consider him one of the founding fathers of modern day wrestling.
And let's just say his life was complicated and leave it at that.
But in his early years, when he was seen as one of the first really big deals of modern professional wrestling, he really built up a following.
Malcolm Jamal Warner, of course, earlier this week, you knew the name, but I'm guessing you weren't a Cosby Show watcher.
That was a little before your time.
Didn't even know my name.
didn't even know the name.
Okay, great.
Not depressed at all.
Not even going to ask about Connie Francis then, who was like the
deal of the time when she was singing in the 1950s and 60s.
Ozzy Osbourne, we
Yeah.
Okay.
And then most recently from yesterday, trumpet player Chuck Mangione.
No.
OK.
Feel so good.
It was his signature tune.
Feel so good to feel this old.
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One of the people on this show is going to the game right after this, making his way to Milwaukee.
And so the Brewer's Hawaiian shirt that was given to me from my birthday a couple of weeks back by one of my daughters.
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OK, well, I'm team Brewers over here and ready to head down to American Family Field for what's going to be a wonderful day, a wonderful game, and we're going to get to that.
But we've also had Packer Training Camp open up.
And so Mike Lemons is here with all that and more to help kick us off into the weekend.
Mike, hello.
How are you?
Yeah, I'm calling you from training camp.
I'll be here through Labor Day weekend.
I will shoot down and catch a couple of Brewer games.
I can't do this one.
as you say that brewers game today is first pitch is at three ten and then they're having this big anniversary today for so this that that's a great game to go to today you know it yet the brewers opening a series against the marlins and uh... and then after that they have brought back over twenty five players to represent each year that they're celebrating the twenty-fifth anniversary of opening miller park can you believe the ballpark sat hold already
no
well it's wonderful retractable dome because in the spring when it's raining and it's like well gdo i do i go to the ballpark to cover the game yeah the game is on every day you know it's it's on every day it's a beautiful thing your clothes costly uh... rain delays and and so uh... it'll be a freddy perlton on the mount for the brewers the brewers were in first place in uh... you know in their division best record in baseball right sixty one wins and after the game then they're gonna have this
home run Derby and they brought back guys like you know Ryan Braun and Prince Fielder and Carlos Gomez, Corey Hart, all these fan favorites Jeff Jenkins and Carlos Gomez and Bronny will be team captains and they will pick you know the hitters for their team and have a little home run Derby after the game today so that's going to be a great one to watch.
It really is and I have to say it'll be it'll be kind of cleansing for me in this way One of the best displays of hitting I'd ever seen was back when Mark McGuire with that was at his peak and he was coming to the the Metrodome to play the twins and I made sure to get there extra early for BP and watching Mark McGuire launch these things in BP at the time not knowing what we know now was just
It was just wonderful to watch as a baseball fan and then of course later in hindsight It feels so tainted that I tell you today's home run derby is going to be kind of a cleansing for me after After what I had to see there, you know more than two decades ago
and one
of the guys at the station said hey you want to go and i had actually had other plans that i was going to cover something else i can't remember what and he said he had a credential okay let's go and we go down we see mark require it like i think it was like sixty one sixty two it it was just and i have not
i mean i got to see hank erin as a kid i have not seen anybody launch a ball that had his vertical trajectory immediately off the bat like that no the way he was that year i mean it just lept off the bat went way high by the time you get you know uh... you know uber could call it get up get out of your god within a second of that and that keeps on creeping and creeping creeping and then goes deep back into the bleacher seats
at county stadium that was it was you know it was amazing to watch no question
yeah uh tony writes on youtube where is richie sex in one of the tallest baseball players i've ever seen 45 homers in 01 and 03 uh so clearly i think i i don't know if he's
part of this later today.
But when people see those 25 or more brewers marking 25 years at this particular ballpark, there's going to be a lot of time travel today as people like we just did go back and have favorite memories of favorite players.
He was
Yes, I know.
And
And he can launch him.
He too is fun to watch as long as you're not playing against him at the time.
So let's get the training camp.
You're there.
You've got the practices that are open to the public some days.
It just has an aura.
Everybody likes to talk about the kids and the bikes and everything.
But I mean, it just is.
and experience for the players, for the spectators, for the community.
Right, and you know these players are juiced forward too because you know they are football players.
This is what they do in life.
They've worked very hard to get to this point.
They heal from the wounds from the offseason, then they go back after about a month or two off and they've been working out to get to this moment.
And by the way, they have to re-earn their job.
You know there's a competition going on.
So
For the first three or four days under the current CBA, the collective bargaining agreement, the coaches don't throw the pads on right away in these guys.
They've got to have like three or four practices and helmets and shorts.
And so we started on Wednesday at 10.30.
The practices are open every day at 10.30 to the public that they're going to go by fast.
20 years ago, when Mike Sherman was the head coach, and we still had two days before those union agreements with the players,
he had over fifty practices you know i'm i'm i'm trying to remember with my buddy's like how do we cover fifty because right now there's only eleven of these things before they get to the three preseason games said to seventeen game season you know and that that's kind of changes there are some more practices that i get to see but they won't necessarily be open to the fans but so i asked the floor about this is so sweet what do you accomplish
with these practices without the pads before you put them on next week and he said particularly with the first-year players he goes i don't want you touching my quarterback and i don't want you putting my running back on the ground okay but that's all of the two rules and he said you see the differences you know
so
you know it's a hundred percent in terms of speed but you know guys can get twisted and tangled up and end up on the ground he doesn't want that because even when we put the pads on you want to do that because you'd you know you don't want guys getting hurt in training camp so those are the some of the techniques that they're trying to learn this week now one of the biggest stories we're watching is center elton jenkins who got moved from left guard to center in the offseason
They signed Aaron Bang from the 49ers for $77 million for a guard.
And Elton, who was a veteran player, he got a deal just a couple of years ago at 68.
And his agent called Russ Ball at the team and said, yeah, I'd like to inform you that our guy is going to get a raise if that's what the market is now.
And so they're still in the middle of negotiating that contract, but we're waiting for that to be resolved.
Meanwhile, Elton has a sore back, and we've been seeing him on the sidelines working out with a trainer.
How's the mood of the team overall?
I mean, you're coming off a loss to the Eagles in the playoffs.
At what point has it already become ancient history, or do you actually keep that memory fresh to provide some motivation as you get set to start a new season?
impact i came into this season look at this like i am not going to accept you know rah rah stuff you know i'm not going to accept who the window of opportunity you know there's there's to these guys you know to bring good against the mall floor you have to try and win a super bowl every year there's no window of opportunity it's like you have to win now and keep winning in order to keep your job
So, uh, with that in mind, I'm thinking, okay, if you're a little flooring, you're driving up to the stadium now and you're going to start your seventh season.
What's left?
I mean, you know, you've gone to the playoffs year after year.
You transitioned to a new quarterback after a Hall of Famer with now Jordan Love.
What's in what?
And to me, it's just like we got to be better at, you know, winning in games if you fall behind.
solving the rubik's cube in game or or maybe there's something in the in the game planning you know the big like the game planning of a bill belichick or the in-game adjustments of a tom brady what how can we get to that next level to to turn some of these games around and and i talk to love about this i said hey you know this you went one and five in the division last year the one thing is this an advantage that you know the vikings are going to go with a new quarterback the lines are going to have to go with two new coordinators
And the Bears have a whole new coaching staff.
He says, yeah, I can just take last year's playbook and take it to the next step.
So that saves me a lot of time.
I'm going to ask the floor about that.
But there's no question.
The thing that really comes through is there's just another level of seriousness.
It's not just guys hanging out and playing for each other.
They are being more, in the third or fourth year, more serious about their business.
and you see them running to coaches and getting things cleared up if maybe something didn't go just quite right on the last play.
And you've got Josh Jacobs, the running back, and Xavier McKinney, the safety, the two free agents that came in and took over that locker room last year as leaders that when they lost that game in Philadelphia, they looked around and told them all, this ain't it.
This is not what we're here for.
you know, you guys fell short, and this isn't going to happen again.
And so there clearly feels like, I don't want to be cliche, a sense of urgency with all these players, and especially from the floor as well.
I like hearing that personally because, and I'm mixing apples and oranges, but with the Milwaukee Bucks, I...
I think a lot of people got the impression there wasn't that urgency.
It's like, yeah, yeah, we were good, but we didn't, you know, we didn't get there, but we'll come back next year.
And for the Packers, it's like, we're not letting this momentum get away from us.
How is wide receiver Matthew Golden looking so far?
And while you're commenting on him as well up on YouTube, Tony asks about Rashawn Gary as well, is he looking healthier?
So what can you tell us about a couple of the personnel?
In
terms of the first round pick in Matthew Golden, number 22, on the second day of practice, yesterday at practice, and 11-on-11, there's Jordan Love in the pocket, and he starts throwing the 22 over the middle, a little slant pass, seven yards at an angle over the middle, and he hits Matthew Golden over the middle.
Now he turns and looks up, he's got three guys around him, a corner,
a nickel, and a safety.
He does one juke move, and he's gone.
I mean, it just explodes past these dudes.
And he did that a couple of times.
And I went to Evan Williams, the second year safety, and I said, what do you think about that?
He goes, dude's going to be a problem.
All Jordan's got to do is complete a high percentage short pass to him, and he's going to be a problem when he gets in the backfield.
with the ball in his hands.
Oh, but that's just what Jordan Love needed, was where he could throw high percentage short passes.
Seriously, that plays right to his strength.
Quickly then back to the Bucks for a second.
Damian Lillard signed with his former team Portland.
What did he say about his time with Milwaukee?
The injuries, like Giannis getting hurt in the playoffs and his blood clot injury and then torn Achilles, shock that he got waved.
But relieved when he told his children, because, you know, his wife divorced him when he got traded in Milwaukee.
He told his kids, you know, I'm back now in Portland, and they said, you know, they cried with joy that they didn't have to fly to Milwaukee to visit their daddy.
Oh, that's awesome.
Well, good.
I'm glad to see an ending there.
But, you know, we appreciated his time here with the Bucks while it lasted.
Mike Clemens was sports so much to cover now, getting back into the real thick of coverage season here.
Thanks for checking in with us.
All right, you as well.
We will come back.
We'll talk to Lisa Hale here, one of our wonderful hosts here at WISS in Oshkosh.
I mean, seriously, donuts, coffee, the whole smear.
OK, not a smear, but I don't even know if there's a good bagel shop here.
We'll talk to her about Oshkosh and wrap up our day here for others.
There'll be a local update, and I'll be talking to you then on Monday morning.
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All right, here we go one more time.
The keyword is brew, B-R-E-W.
That is the keyword for the
Friday the free ticket Friday when tickets to the Brewers Cubs game next Wednesday afternoon You've got yourself another six minutes or so to send that text that in through the civic media app And then there will be more keywords more chances to win throughout the course of the day Lisa Hale is here who covers a civic media news here in Oshkosh and in Green Bay as well and It's just been a wonderful host for us today.
Thank you for that.
Well,
you know, I used to when we have people coming from the
corporate world shall we say.
I
want to be nice.
You know, I want to let them know that I love them.
I brought you some donuts and some coffee
and stuff like that.
We did.
There was coffee here.
There was donuts.
I mentioned the, you know, the temperature in the room.
It turns out that, turns out Parker, they can adjust the temperature here.
Yeah, we can move.
The air conditioning up and down,
so
I turned it up.
Well, I turned the air conditioning up, I brought the temperature down.
Oh yeah, we had this debate because she has lived in northern states, but also southern states.
Right, and
the terminology is different.
You turn the air conditioning down to get the
temperature down.
No,
you
turn it down to turn it off, you turn it up to get more cold.
That's the South for you.
It's nuts.
No, I think that makes sense.
Where all did you live?
I've lived in Louisiana, Mississippi in Texas, as well as Wisconsin and Michigan.
I know this is true because you said Louisiana.
Yes, I am definitely a Louisiana girl.
I spent more time in Louisiana than I did in the other states.
Always in news or what kind of fields have you worked
in?
I have been in radio since I was 15 years old.
I've been doing news since I
was 19 or after I got out of college, because I got my degree in journalism.
And I've been doing everything from radio, TV, newspaper, magazines since then.
I'm not going to say when that was, because that would put a date on
me.
And we're not
going to do that.
And where'd you go to school?
Northeast Wisconsin.
No.
That's where we're at now.
That's right.
Northeast Louisiana University is what it was known as when I went.
It is now University of Louisiana at Monroe.
OK.
That's where I got my journalism.
You all I mentioned.
And then I went to Northwestern State University in Nacodish for my business degree.
I have a couple hundred degrees.
Where's Nacodish?
That's in Louisiana, too.
OK.
It's in Cajun country of
Louisiana.
What are you missing most here?
Let's talk food for a second here.
That's exactly it.
I don't miss anything about Louisiana except for the food.
I would kill for a good old-fashioned crawfish boil.
I would, I really would.
And I miss that food.
There's so much flavor in the Creole and Cajun cooking.
Have you been any, any place at all in Wisconsin that has tried that advertises itself as Cajun?
Yes, I have.
Um, there's a place up in Ash Wabanan.
that does basically seafood boils and they do a really good job.
I've tried them.
I like them.
I can't remember the name of it right now.
I want to say maybe millions.
I'm not sure.
And then there's a place in Sheboygan that's called, I think, Bourbon Street.
And they have an etouffee that I love.
It is
just spicy enough.
All right.
So your, your quest is better than say, when I leave Wisconsin and I try to get an old fashioned someplace.
Oh yeah.
You're not going to find
a good old fashioned.
They make a Manhattan and think that they've done it right.
That, oh, it's just a different name, right?
No, no, no, it's, it's not even close.
Yeah.
And Bloody Mary's, if you want a good Bloody Mary, get it in Wisconsin.
Don't go down south
for
Bloody
Mary.
No, apparently, apparently we know things about alcoholic drinks.
Yes, yes, that's been said.
Louisiana might know food, but.
Wisconsin knows alcohol.
Is Bourbon Street a destination for for you and others from there or is it now just strictly tourists?
It depends.
Okay.
If there is something actually happening.
And besides tours, besides going to Bourbon Street, you know, like I lived in the northern portion of the state.
So if there was a concert I wanted to go to in New Orleans, I would go and maybe after the concert walk Bourbon Street, but I wouldn't go to Bourbon Street just to go.
And
I
would not go to Mardi Gras just to go unless it's one of the other.
But
I could see what you mean about if if there was something specific there because There are so many places to see music.
It is just and Nashville is the same way And I'm sure there's other cities too where it's just like here's a place with live music And then the next door there's live music and the next door is live music and you don't
get that in almost any Wisconsin community.
But in some of these places, that is what they're known for.
I mean, the best blues band I ever saw was on Bourbon Street.
Oh, yeah.
Not jazz.
It was blues.
Blues, definitely.
Oh, my goodness.
Just so good.
You know, everybody talks about jazz being Louisiana.
But if you really want to know what the Louisiana music is, you got to go Zydeco, blues and country.
That's what Louisiana music really is.
Wow,
okay.
Do you get back down there much?
You know, the last time I was down, I hate to say this, but was when my stepdad passed away
and I went
for the funeral.
I mean, it's 20 hours driving.
I hate flying.
And it's hot.
I much prefer to be here.
Thank you very much.
Yeah.
I mean, we have our hot days, but it's not like life down there.
Life down.
It's so funny.
Somebody was complaining about the heat the other day when it was so hot.
And I was like, yeah, this is pretty much like.
I guess late March in Louisiana.
And they were like, late March.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You ain't seen nothing yet.
Well, we're very fortunate to have you up here, Lisa.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
For stopping in for the hospitality and for all you do here.
I try my best.
Oh, it's fantastic.
Have a wonderful weekend.
You too.
All right.
Hey, that's going to wrap things up for us here from Oshkosh here and Parker again.
Thank you for it's been quite a week.
You got to say with the
seeing the Madison studio.
finally meet.
So like, wow, you have.
Did you always wear glasses?
I don't know.
I can't say that I paid attention that much before I've
I've never seen you without.
I don't know.
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from up north.
Have a great weekend.
See you then.
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