Memorable Memoirs (Hour 3)

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Memorable Memoirs (Hour 3)

Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Mon Jun 16, 2025

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Pat Kreitlow

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Pat Kreitlow

Well, this doesn't look like my Lake WSOTA studio at all, Parker.

No, it doesn't.

It doesn't feel like it.

Let me tell you.

low, not even close, but here we are somewhere on the prairies of Saskatchewan, complete with prairie dogs popping in and out around here.

And John and Gordy joined us from our Madison Station as well in A1.

Parker's in A2, and we've explained that story before, but it's gonna be worth explaining again this time.

John and Gordy, you hearing me okay?

We can hear you.

We can

Pat Kreitlow

hear you.

Okay.

All right.

So tell me, tell me, tell, I've heard Parker's version.

Tell me the story now of how you guys chased away my 730 guest.

Well,

we were on the air.

It was interesting.

And a person started wandering into the station.

As one does, yes.

And was, you know, and so he just continued to wander for a couple of minutes.

He was patiently waiting.

And we thought that maybe we had

double-booked and We that's how we approached it as a double book.

Yeah, so we We went into a commercial break and started talking to him and we had we didn't know who he was He didn't know who he had talked to to be on the air We thought you know, maybe our previous producer Sam had booked him and we didn't get the word I like

Pat Kreitlow

I like how this is this is everything about this says, you know

Luke booked this guy.

And so I'm putting this all on Mathers right now.

Jane Matenaer

Mathers should have been there

Pat Kreitlow

to hold his hand and walk him down to that broom closet where it's not obvious that there is an A2 to go along with the palatial A1.

So I thought it was hilarious.

You know,

live radio.

We freaked out, and we're apologizing to you right there on

Pat Kreitlow

the air.

No, no apology needed there.

Especially if

Pat Kreitlow

you never apology needed if you bring a good story.

And that, guys, that's a good story.

I like that.

Oh my goodness.

Well, I hope you can rebook him at some future date.

You know,

Pat Kreitlow

I got a hire, I got to rebook a flight so I can get out of Canada here, you know,

first

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before

I

Pat Kreitlow

can get to you.

So we got, we got, we got a one step at a time.

And again, it's Jeff Mandel from Law Forward, good guy, good group.

Jane Matenaer

No

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doubt that they, no doubt that they will be back.

Meteorologist Brittany Merleau is here as well to talk about the forecast.

It's a, it's a sunny partly cloudy morning up here on the prairies of Saskatchewan where

Again, it got really warm yesterday, but Brittany, what does the picture look like for Wisconsin today?

Brittney Merlot

You know, before I get to that, I have a question for you though, Pat.

Up in Canada, how's that wildfire smoke?

Pat Kreitlow

Oh, I'm glad you asked.

It was not great on Friday and Saturday, but it was pretty much gone on Sunday because, I mean, you've seen the maps and you see how

Jane Matenaer

the

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smoke gets grabbed by the wind and kind of...

rounds the bend and then get, pours into Wisconsin and Minnesota and places like that.

So Saskatchewan or where Regina is, it's like due south of the fires, but the way the wind was blowing, you weren't getting as much smoke.

And now today there's not a smoke problem at all, but they, they will tell you the fires are still a major problem up there.

You know, we think, think of it as like uninhabited, you know, maybe, maybe some Eskimos have a summer home there, but no, there were actually a lot of folks living up there that are losing

homes.

Um, how's the, is the smoke situation better down there yet?

Brittney Merlot

Oh, it's trying to there this morning.

We were still at moderate levels, but a lot of the places up north were getting much better.

So we're getting there.

Um, goodness, that's scary though to think about and to be so close to as well.

Pat Kreitlow

Right.

So, so what do we got around Wisconsin now?

Brittney Merlot

So right now we're waking up to temperatures at about 52 degrees and superior 70 right now in La Crosse, which that is warmer than the north got all weekend long.

So we are warming up all across the state today.

Highs making it to about 80 to 85 degrees.

It's muggy.

It's getting sticky.

It's getting humid.

We've got a little bit of light rain rolling through southern parts of the state.

A few showers and storms expected to pop up this afternoon.

And then a major line wanting to roll through this evening, starting Northwest and pushing through the entire state through late tonight and overnight.

Now, of course, as this storm starts, probably around four to six o'clock or so far Northwest, it's going to be in its worst situation where we could see some large hail.

damaging high wind gusts in the tornado or two is possible.

Can't rule that out.

So pay attention when they start to spark up around Minneapolis and they push in towards western Wisconsin.

That's of course where they're going to be the strongest.

But as they move into central Wisconsin, they should be weakening and often to eastern Wisconsin by Lake Michigan.

They're pretty much going to ease up and dissipate there.

But those of me moving through overnight late tonight and more are expected again tomorrow as that heat humidity sticks here with us.

Pat Kreitlow

It would help if I took myself off mute

Brittney Merlot

where I

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was trying trying to have some coffee here My friends up here in Regina the one is is a native of Saskatchewan She is but her husband is from London originally doesn't drink coffee Nothing but tea and so look look at they tried to make coffee for me, but they only had these little teeny espresso cups for the coffee Pink yeah, which has a

There's definitely some tea in there.

Nobody should drink tea early in the morning.

But we'll give it our best.

Brittany, thank you so much.

I hope to talk to you from normal circumstances tomorrow.

Absolutely.

Safe travels back.

Whatever the heck those are.

So we noted in today's history lesson that it was on this day in 1980 that the original Blues Brothers movie came out.

If you take a look behind John and Gordy on social media, you see one of the original promo posters for the Blues Brothers, or at least that's the way it kind of looks here with these two handsome dudes and their sunglasses.

John and Gordy, what's the story on that?

Did you guys have a cameo roll or what's with the promo photo there?

Oops, we lost their audio.

Let's see.

Now we're going to ask Dom to turn up their microphones so that we can hear them again.

Hey, there we go.

Let's see.

Look at this.

We're watching Dom now race into the studio.

Oh, I know.

It's like having mimes on the radio,

Luke Mathers

you know?

It's exactly what you want on radio with mimes.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes.

Oh, my goodness.

They're stuck in a box now.

Oh, and they've.

And now they're just gone.

Oh, jeez.

Well, I think we've.

Clearly, John and Gordy have had enough of this.

Yes.

These are talented large market individuals that do not need to be spending time with a guy who can't even get out of Saskatchewan to run a radio show.

We, uh, we do see that they are trying to pop on again.

So that'll be nice.

So let me set up what we're going to do after we're done talking with John and Gordy for this half hour.

It's at that point that I have to depart for the airport and hopefully get out of here today and then be back in, uh, Chippewa Falls tomorrow with you for another edition of mornings with pack right low formally up North news radio, where we will talk about the news of the day.

The news of today has been honestly pretty sad and so we haven't

spent nearly as much time dwelling on it because not just for the sadness but again the redundancy.

We've been thinking about this all weekend, the murder of a Minnesota lawmaker and her husband and the shooting of another Minnesota lawmaker and his wife.

The suspect was arrested late yesterday and

based on his extensive history, it appears to be continuing this string of right-wing political violence, which is becoming far too normal in this country.

And I guess we can only hope that justice is done for him and that in doing so, it will prevent any other possibilities where people think that this is gonna be normal in America.

I worry about it though, because we've managed to normalize school shootings.

It would have seemed to me after Columbine this nation would have moved heaven and earth to do something about the the gun problem in this country and instead There's been no shortage of Americans who get elected office and say to you with a straight face That's not that it's a mental health problem And yet the joint finance committee this week in the legislature cut mental health funding for schools So we have we have a lot of work to do to cover the news of the situation But again, we'll cover more of that tomorrow when hopefully things are

More back to normal.

Not what this is, which is poor John and Gordy.

Can you hear us now?

Now I can hear you just fine again.

Welcome back.

Welcome back to the

show, John and

Pat Kreitlow

Gordy.

After a long...

Long absence.

Yes, sir.

I have a question for first of all, why are you in Canada and why is your your your graphics say you're stranded there?

Why did you go to Canada in the first place and

Pat Kreitlow

why are you stranded?

We have some some dear friends up here just outside of Regina, Saskatchewan.

We actually met them during our three years living in the Caribbean on Grand Cayman.

And Sherry was working down there as an OBGYN.

I was working at the TV station.

She was an OBGYN and her pediatrician was originally from London.

He met a girl who was originally from Regina.

They got married and we came back from Grand Cayman back to Wisconsin and she came back to Regina with a husband from London in tow.

And that's, so now instead of visiting them on an island, we have to come up here on the tundra.

to come see them.

So that's our convoluted thing of how we got there.

It's going to be a quick weekend visit.

No problem.

We get in, we get out, nothing to it unless of course the plane doesn't start and apparently the airline up here in Canada not known for having a lot of spare planes lying around.

we have to hope that this thing heads over to Barney's garage and is fixed in time for a flight this morning instead.

So that's my story and I'm sticking to it because I can tell in other people when I was sending messages like, oh, way to extend your vacation.

I'm like, you know what, if I were gonna extend a vacation, it wouldn't have been through all the stuff we went through yesterday, only to have this little sip of interesting.

Tasting coffee.

Yeah, that's the smallest cup I've ever seen.

Did they have nice diners up there and

Pat Kreitlow

oh, yeah,

they do they have

Pat Kreitlow

Yep, they have great.

Well, can we talk about the poutine for a second?

Yes

Pat Kreitlow

No, if we do I'll

just

Pat Kreitlow

I'll never leave.

It's how how is that house poutine not invented in Wisconsin?

It's cheese curds.

Yes, it's gravy.

It's french fries

I do not understand how this wasn't invented in Madison or, you know, Wisconsin dels or something like that.

Canada, you did right by our cheese curds.

Yes, absolutely.

I mean, it should be a big thing down here, too.

Why didn't we absorb some of that down here in Wisconsin?

Pat Kreitlow

I know.

So

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close.

We're just, we're just so focused on making sure it squeaks just right that we forgot there's ways to serve it up warm and delicious.

So

my remember you wanted the politicians at the state Capitol Republican wanted to take butter off our table.

Oh my gosh, you remember they wanted to repeal that law that required butter on every table in in a restaurant in Wisconsin

Pat Kreitlow

sacrilege How are you guys this weekend?

Good,

Gordy

attended the protest down here, the No Kings protest.

Yeah,

and it was well attended, about 15,000 people in the state capital area and up to the library mall and they had a women's march before the protests that happened at the capital and everything was very peaceful.

In fact, it was kind of a festive atmosphere.

Didn't see any signs of any trouble.

I don't think there were any problems with it.

And it was well attended.

And 15,000,

right?

Yes.

Pat Kreitlow

And then the other thing that you had in some communities was you actually had a Pride march that was going on.

And then in some cases, they kind of, you know, merged at some point to become more of a larger rally.

And as we were talking earlier in the last hour and hearing from an organizer of one of the Eau Claire protests, they were talking about how

refreshing it was to see that there were people Republicans or fiscal conservatives who said, you know, this is this is not the kind of world that we want to live in where we've normalized things that should not be normalized and that people want to come together and say we can do better than this.

Right.

It's just a strange thing to see the military on our streets.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah.

And the normalization of putting the military on our streets.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah, it was and it shouldn't be and I think that that really sent a statement this weekend that people would would protest that way instead of trying to

to disrupt what was happening in DC.

So for folks along the network, a local update is next for some of you.

For the rest of you hanging here, we're going to talk more with John and Gordy.

And then in our next half hour, Parker will be talking to author Laura Bird.

And that's all coming to you from, well, I used to say the heart of America is up north, but the Canadian from the heart of Canada is up north up here on the prairies.

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Pat Kreitlow

Thirty minutes from now we will be visiting with Jane McNair.

Well, I mean...

We won't be.

I won't be.

I'm heading to the airport and just a little bit here, but Parker will be talking to Jane McNair about what's coming up along with Greg Bach on Matt and Air on Air coming up at nine o'clock here across Civic Media Radio Network.

John and Gordy continue with us for a few minutes more before they run away from their busy work day and I run away to try to be back in America again.

Well, yeah, that's a big thing on that pad.

Are you being held hostage?

You know, Canada is not very happy with the US.

They don't want to be the first 51st state, and they're holding on to you until somebody backs down on this.

Pat Kreitlow

It could be.

I mean, I joked about it for the past few days, like, well, I'll see you on Monday if they let me back in.

But I thought it would be a problem with, you know, American Border Patrol going, oh, you, no, you can't come back in.

Or

if

Pat Kreitlow

they do let me in, it's to put me on a different plane to go to Guantanamo.

or something like that.

Your paper's in order,

Pat Kreitlow

yes.

Yeah, I never dreamed I'd be undone by a, you know, by a prop-driven airplane.

I got into this airplane and I'm like, wait, propellers?

Do we still use those

things?

Pat Kreitlow

Honest to God, okay.

And it worked, it was fine on the way out, but...

I don't know.

If the props weren't spinning right, then I guess I'll take a day off.

If it takes a little time to figure out if they go, maybe in Canada, they go counterclockwise instead of clockwise.

Or it's metric.

I don't know.

What's the value of the Canadian dollar to the speed of a propeller?

I'm not sure.

So we've tried to cover the day's news as best we can, including the rallies and things.

And Los Angeles was a focal point of it, guys.

And you talked to somebody on your show today that

really gave you a first person account of things.

Yeah, we were talking with Tiffany Hobbs from KFI AM in Los Angeles, and she really gave us a rundown of everything that's been happening there for the last week or so.

And it was a good interview.

Yeah, she was pretty impressed with the police in LA.

They've been very cooperative, even though you've seen some confrontations, of course, but the police have been very good.

with a lot of the protesters out there.

It's the curfew is that we're really seeing where there is a confrontation.

You know, they're trying to clear the streets for that curfew.

They have a curfew from 6am, I believe until 8am or 8pm, rather.

So that that's the curfew time.

And

they're trying they're

trying to clear the streets.

So it's 6am, 8pm till 6am overnight.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

So

Pat Kreitlow

Well, I mean, for most folks, there are some folks who they probably should not be allowed out

in the daytime.

But yeah,

Pat Kreitlow

your point is well taken.

Here's the thing about perspective that we've tried to get on the situation.

One is, like you said, it's just a handful of incidents that get magnified.

But we also, as part of, we had some journalists on Friday with our usual week and review panel.

And they pointed out the allure of fire, that you can have

largely peaceful protests everywhere, but if one person sends, you know, sets like a dumpster on fire and it's many blocks away from the main action, but if you're a TV producer, you tend to focus on the thing that's burning and suddenly people think

Los Angeles is on fire, you know, because certainly people are ginning it up.

And I'm glad you got to talk to somebody that put it much more in perspective in a city of 11 million people, you know, how little bit of this is actual activity and how little bit of that is actually problematic activity.

That's right.

There are people out there that are protesting.

There are organizers that go out there and actually control the crowd as well.

A lot of people don't understand or even know that that's happening.

And they do need a spokesperson at these very confusing events.

There's a lot of people doing certain things, moving in certain ways, but these organizers are able to keep things in check for most of the time.

Pat Kreitlow

You know where some of that comes from, I'm quite certain, is all the Act 10 protests in

Madison

Pat Kreitlow

back

in

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2011.

I don't know if either one of you were

down.

We were there.

We were definitely there.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah.

OK.

Where, again, you saw a, I'm not going to call it self-government, but you certainly saw people trying to take the reins and say, OK, here are some ground rules.

Here are some resources.

Here's where to get food or first aid or anything like that.

And look, sometimes people say what they will about

protests, but sometimes in mass events like this, you really start to see the best of people looking out for each other.

In fact, in those Act 10 protests, there was no vandalism and very few arrests, if any.

That says a lot about Madison.

Pat Kreitlow

I'm confused.

I was given reason to believe by Scott Walker that the capital burned down.

Didn't they come up with like an estimate of six million dollars damage to the capital?

Pat Kreitlow

Yes.

Yes.

And it was like, it was just the lawn of maybe $50,000 just to repair the lawn where people had been standing.

So

Pat Kreitlow

yeah, yeah, which

you

Pat Kreitlow

could have gotten that, you know, just your ordinary Madison rave or something like that.

So you guys have anything coming up this week that you're looking forward to or is it?

It's just another great week to be a Madison Morning Radio host.

Well, tomorrow we're going to be talking with Jesse Christensen.

Now, he is an expert in...

all the new products that are coming out in the cannabis area, but this is actually something that's therapeutic.

It's a cannabinoid, he's into, he has an organization called cannabinoids therapeutics.

And they're getting, he's more into the medical side of cannabis and how it can relieve tension and help you out.

So he has, they've developed some sort of taffy.

It's like something you'd see in Wisconsin Dells.

We're going to find out all about that from Jesse Christiansen tomorrow.

He calls it Laffy Taffy.

It's a good name for it.

If he hasn't called it yet, you should call it that.

There

Pat Kreitlow

you go.

Okay.

Well, good.

We got that.

Look forward to folks.

If you're not in the Madison area, you can catch it on the Civic Media app.

And if you're in the Madison area and you want to bounce back and forth between shows, you find us over there as well.

John and Gordy, thank you guys so much.

Thanks for rolling with the punches here and we'll see if we can't have a normal day with normal guests and

a

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normal host in the normal place.

All right.

All right, Pat.

Thanks.

Thanks.

Have a

Pat Kreitlow

great day, guys.

All right.

Coming up on the program tomorrow, hopefully, with me in Chippewa Falls, we'll be talking to Hans Breitenmoser about President Trump's apparent flip-flop on deportation raids that affect farming.

And also, Dan Schaefer from the Reconbobulation Area will recap last weekend's State Democratic Convention and all the reaction to his column about Governor Tony Evers.

I'm Pat Crichtlow, stranded in Regina, hoping, heading to the airport now, Parker Olson.

going to be talking to author Laura Bird and then Jane Bantner all coming up next here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

See you tomorrow.

Luke Mathers

Welcome back to Mornings with Pat Critello.

I am not the aforementioned Pat Critello.

He is hopefully in route to the airport so he can return.

state side from our friends in the Great North.

I'm Luke Mathers, filling in for Pat for this final half hour here on a Monday morning of Mornings with Pat Critello across the Civic Media Radio Network.

Author Laura Bird is with us now, and this time around for your summer reading recommendation, she's going to help us understand memoirs.

They're not the same as autobiographies, which I learned just recently, so in my mind,

Very similar, but you're going to tell us about the difference in the characteristics and give us several examples.

You might want to pick up for your next addition to your nightstand, your beach bag, or your bookshelf.

Laura Bird, welcome to Mornings with Pat Crightlow.

Thank you.

It is awesome to be here in studio.

Yes.

Yes.

Luke Mathers

You're joining us in studio.

We are thrilled to have you.

Pat was looking forward to having you in the studio for the first time for

this

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conversation.

And I kind of get to steal his thunder.

So

it's great to be here.

Yes.

Thank you.

Luke Mathers

It's excellent to have you with us.

And so autobiographies versus memoirs, picking it up for the summer reading list.

Can you tell the listeners a little bit about what makes the two different?

Sure.

Let me start by saying I'm so happy to be talking about memoirs because it is one of my favorite genres.

You know, I think in life, we all go through tough times.

We all go through difficulties.

And sometimes we feel really alone in those.

But when you pick up a book and you open up the pages, you find that there are so many other people that have been through similar experiences.

Jane Matenaer

And

it's very comforting in a way, I think, to find that sense of validation and even a sense of community, if you will.

In fact, James Baldwin

a novelist once said, you think your pain and your heartbreak are unprecedented in the history of the world, but then you read.

So yet

Jane Matenaer

another reason.

Yeah, it is.

It's yet another reason why I love reading so much.

But to answer your question, I think readers sometimes get autobiographies and memoirs mixed up.

So I want to just start there.

Whereas autobiographies and other nonfiction titles emphasize facts.

Memoirs, which is the French word for memory or reminisce, focus on personal experience and emotional truth.

So writers of memoirs kind of get a chance to play with their memories in order to tell an engaging story.

And for this reason, memoirs are not really bound to traditional expectations around chronology and factual accuracy, like autobiographies and other nonfiction books are.

So it's a little more creative, a little more leeway there.

Yeah.

So you got to keep that in mind.

Luke Mathers

Yeah.

And I was asking

you

Luke Mathers

this morning because the first thing that came to mind, the closest thing that I've read recently was Storyteller

by Dave

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Grohl, who was the drummer for Nirvana and then the front man for the Foo Fighters.

And I was like,

I don't know, is this a memoir or is this an autobiography?

And so yeah, you in fact told me memoir.

Yeah, if he wrote it and I have not read that one, I've heard great things about it.

But I think there is a lot of creative leeway there.

So I would make that, I would call that a memoir, which is a great segue because I feel like when you're reading memoirs, there's sort of two types in general of memoirs.

You get the celebrity memoir, which is what we're talking about, right?

And then we get the memoir written by kind of the everyday person, which is what I'm going to talk about today.

Luke Mathers

OK.

And folks, if you're just joining us, we're with Laura Bird, author, giving us some recommendations for your summer reading list.

You're listening to Mornings with Pat Critello.

Pat is heading towards the airport, going to be returning to the United States.

I am Luke Mathers, filling in for Pat for this final half hour of the show.

So you've got some recommendations

for those

Luke Mathers

everyday kind of memoirs for the summer reading list.

I do.

Do you want me to tell you really quick?

If you love a celebrity memoir, and maybe some of your listeners do, in 2025, there are some very famous people coming out with their tell-alls.

And I'm not really going to talk about them today, but Tina Knowles, Chelsea Handler, Jeremy Renner, Brooke Shields, Bill Gates, Margaret Atwood, Joe Piscopo, and Cher.

All have books coming out this year.

It's a long list.

So

Luke Mathers

that's going to be maybe a subject

for

Luke Mathers

another morning.

Maybe, yes.

Luke Mathers

But this morning,

you've got

Jane Matenaer

a

Luke Mathers

couple of recommendations for memoirs written by everyday people.

And this first one, if you've ever had someone in your life or yourself touched by cancer or been terminally ill, what do we have in store for the readers here?

We have rehearsals for dying, digressions on love and cancer.

by Ariel Gore.

And I know this is all heavy stuff from Monday morning.

That's a heavy place to start.

It's heavy, but this is reality, right?

And it's a relatable topic.

Luke Mathers

Yes, because if you yourself have not been touched by this subject, there's undoubtedly somebody in your life that has been.

Absolutely.

So Ariel Gore's wife, Dina, steps out of the shower one day and says, does my breast look weird?

And it does, in fact, look weird.

And she is ultimately diagnosed with terminal breast cancer.

But with empathy and a lot of humor, Ariel braids Dina's experiences of being sick with her own role as caretaker.

And so it's a really heartbreaking and hopeful story.

Luke Mathers

And hopefully for folks that are going through a similar situation with that and don't know how to either navigate that world or they're looking for some connection for somebody else that has gone through that, an excellent story

to

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be able to relate to.

That's why we read memoirs, right?

You can see kind of how people find their sense of resolve, what strategies they use.

I mean, there's a lot of courage that goes into writing books like this.

Luke Mathers

A lot of courage and a lot

of

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love, which I think

is a good

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segue

for the next one as

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well.

Do you need a reminder that love is much greater than the narrow ideals we've been taught to want?

Yes, such a great question.

Read Love in Exile by Sean Fay.

So Sean is a trans woman and she grew up consumed with the idea that love was not.

for her romantic love and also self love.

And so you can imagine that these feelings like erupted in a lot of really destructive behavior.

So now as an adult, she confronts this idea of lovelessness and really believes that it's symptomatic of bigger problems in our culture.

Okay.

really great book.

Luke Mathers

All right.

And so that is number two recommendation from author Laura Bird, who is with us here on Mornings with Pac Fritlow.

And we've got some excellent, if you're watching us on the live streams for Mornings with Pac Fritlow, you can check out Laura's holding up the covers as well for the pieces here in the studio.

And up next, we have the question for listeners.

Do you have issues around foot and body image?

Food and body.

Luke Mathers

Excuse me.

Yeah.

So read hunger, a memoir of my body by Roxanne Gay.

So as a woman who describes her own body as wildly undisciplined, which I think is such a great phrase, Roxanne Gay really understands the tension between desire and denial.

And so in hunger, in this new memoir, she writes about food, weight, self-image, and really learning how to feed her hunger while also learning how to take care of herself.

Luke Mathers

Yeah, and again, a topic that I think there's folks out there in our lives, if not ourselves, people that we know, and an excellent opportunity to be able to read that memoir.

really relate

to somebody

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else's story.

Absolutely.

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And so up next we've got, do you want to know more about neurodiversity and how people see the world through different lenses?

Great, great subject.

You need to read Normally Weird and Weirdly Normal, My Adventures in Neurodiversity by Robin Ince.

So Robin kind of reminds us all that no matter how weird we are or how weird we feel, it's okay to be different.

So he's a British broadcaster and comedian, and he's entertained thousands of people in his career.

But underneath the surface, he's struggled with self-doubt and near constant anxiety.

And he's diagnosed with ADHD at the age of 52.

So pretty, pretty, you know, later in life.

And suddenly he needs to figure out how to turn his stumbling blocks into stepping stones.

So this is a really quirky and witty dive into the world of human behavior.

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And I think for I can attest myself as somebody that's been on this side of the microphone, been behind the microphone, feelings like that are.

definitely

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present

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amongst broadcasters so that

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I may

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have to bump that one up to the top of my summer reading list.

Folks, you are listening to Mornings with Pat Fritlow.

I am Luke Mathers filling in for Pat.

He is hopefully going to be with us again tomorrow morning on a Tuesday morning edition of Mornings with Pat Fritlow here across the Civic Media Radio Network.

I am joined right now in studio by author Laura Bird.

We're discussing some of the memoirs that she has

put together for us on a list to add for your summer reading list.

Talking to everyday individuals, though, these stories, not necessarily celebrity memoirs, but memoirs written that you can relate to going about your life, especially asking these questions.

Have you ever grieved a miscarriage

or

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the loss of someone that you love?

This is a tough one.

So you need to read first born.

by Lauren Christensen.

So Lauren gets pregnant with a daughter that she and her husband named Simone.

Only Simone is never born.

And Lauren loses her through miscarriage and then comes home from the hospital, you know, racked with grief, understandably, and literally starts writing her memoir.

So right then and there.

So she writes in this like fierce intimate style and she poses a really big tough question.

How do we live when everyone who makes up our world will someday be gone?

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And a very powerful question.

And I think the self-reflection and the journey that you can go on with Lauren on that one, it seems very, very powerful.

Absolutely.

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And so we also have memoirs written for individuals that have given acts

of service.

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So are you a military veteran or are you a military veteran who's a woman?

And

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this one, this title,

Laura?

Yeah.

Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea, a veteran's memoir by Khadija Queen.

This one is getting a lot of hype this year.

Okay.

So it's the late 1990s and a young Khadija Queen is recruited to join the US Navy while working a minimum wage job and really trying to manage her family's substance abuse problems.

So things are pretty tough for her.

So she's excited to go into the Navy.

You know, she completes her grueling training, boards her ship.

And she finds herself in even more traumatic situations because she has to deal with sexual harassment, racism, and some really demeaning labor assignments.

So this is her masterful chronicle about survival and autonomy.

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And again, situations that everyday folks are navigating, but may not necessarily have the words to fully understand the experiences they themselves have had and memoirs like these.

very, very powerful tools and folks being able to reflect and think deeply about what these subjects are truly trying to tackle.

Absolutely.

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Yeah.

And so maybe the next question we have for this book would

be,

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maybe you're questioning the path you're on and wondering if there's a different way to live.

Tell

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us a little bit about this

one.

Oh, so this is a good one.

It's called a change of habit, leaving behind my husband, career and everything I owned to become a nun.

by sister Monica Claire.

So surprisingly, this is actually a really funny memoir.

Okay, soulful, funny.

And it's about a chronic people pleaser who surprises everyone in her life and kind of herself too, when she abandons her career as a photo editor and leaves her marriage.

in order to join the convent.

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That sounds like a pretty heavy subject to bring some brevity

to

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with comedy, though.

Absolutely.

So she really writes quite beautifully about the messiness that ensues when she finally stops and listens to that voice inside her head, calling her to a simpler, quieter life.

So it's a great testimony about embracing our most authentic selves, even when it's hard and scary.

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Okay.

All right.

And we got a couple more here.

We've got recommendations from author Laura Bird.

Add for memoirs to your summer reading list.

Maybe you want to know what it's like to fight your way through poverty and still have a sense of humor on the other side.

So another, another comedic memoir,

or

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at least with some humor to

it.

Yes.

There's definitely humor here.

And this book, Alligator Tears by Edgar Gomez is getting a lot of buzz this year.

So get your hands on this in Florida, apparently.

I grew up in Wisconsin.

So I don't, I didn't learn this.

Okay.

But apparently you're taught as a kid that if you're ever chased by a wild alligator, the only way to save yourself is to run away in zigzags.

Okay.

Did you know that?

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I visited Orlando a couple of times growing up

as a

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kid and I, that sounds vaguely familiar.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, that is a lesson on survival that has guided much of author editor.

Edgar Gomez's life.

And so in this funny, wicked, smart memoir, he shares very ziggy, zaggy anecdotes of growing up working class, queer and Latin X, and how he's attempted to claw his family out of poverty by any means necessary.

Luke Mathers

All right, another excellent read to add to the summer reading list.

We've got a couple more here.

We're going to try to add them to the podcast notes because we're running short on time here, Laura.

Again, we've been speaking with author Laura Bird here on Mornings with Pat Critello.

I am Luke Mathers filling in for

Pat.

I know he's looking forward to the next time you're able to join him here on Mornings with Pat Preitlo.

And we really appreciate you being here in the studio with us this morning, Laura.

Thanks for having me.

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Up next, we got Jane Matinair of Matinair on Air coming up to tease what is on her program with Breck Bach this morning.

You're listening to Mornings with Pat.

Kathryn Lake

You're listening to Civic Media.

Find the latest news, information, and archives of all your favorite shows on the Civic Media website, civicmedia.us.

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It is now 8.52 on a Monday morning.

You are listening to Mornings with Pat Critello.

No, it is not something off with your radio speakers this morning.

I am not Pat Critello.

I am Luke Mathers, filling in this final half hour of the program for Pat.

So he is able to rejoin us here, stateside.

Thanks for being with us.

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And we are joined here on the show by the lovely, the incomparable, Jane Mattener.

Jane Matenaer

Jane,

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how are we doing on this Monday morning?

Jane Matenaer

I am good, Luke Steer.

It was really a beautiful weekend.

And I got no complaints.

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No complaints.

Jane Matenaer

We had a

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little sunburn in our household.

It was it was not fun.

My wife was insistent that she stayed out of the sun well enough.

And we we returned home yesterday from we went to the brewers game.

I like to go to the ballpark with my dad for Father's Day.

And

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we got back in the car and just fried.

I was like, oh, like I was OK.

I did not apply the sunscreen.

I was kind of I was taking the gamble as well.

But.

She is mystified.

She does not know how well she got burned.

But you've got a garden.

How is the garden looking?

The garden is,

Jane Matenaer

it's really growing.

Greg and I were talking about this off the air this morning.

What is it about some things you cannot kill them?

I mean, thistles, for example.

I have those in my yard.

We have them now in front here at the WRJN on Radio Park here in Racine.

I have done everything in my power to kill the thistles in my garden.

And you can't.

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And they're

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still there.

They can serve nuclear holocaust.

Thistles will come through with it like roaches.

But other things that you want to grow will not grow.

Luke Mathers

Right, you never have that problem with the tomato plants or the zucchini that you're really hoping for, but

Jane Matenaer

it just doesn't work out.

The rotten zucchini, I can't kill it.

Yeah, that never happens.

I'm not quite sure how that works, but anyway.

Luke Mathers

Yeah, well, anyway, we've got a show coming up for you here with Greg from 9 to 11.

What is in store for listeners tuning in to Matt and Aaron on air this morning?

Jane Matenaer

Well, I would much rather start somewhere else, but we're going to be talking about the assassination of the Minnesota lawmaker and the attempted assassination of another Minnesota lawmaker and his wife.

So we're going to begin with that in the second half.

After the 9 30 news, we're going to talk about the no Kings protests that were around the country yesterday at the same time that essentially Donald Trump's.

Ego parade was going on in Washington D.C.

Kind of an interesting comparison when you look at the events that were going on around the country and then what was happening in D.C.

I feel badly for our troops.

Yeah, I really

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do.

the, the side by side comparison, I think, and you have to go seek out multiple news sources.

Cause if you're only watching one, you're going to get kind of the, the specific lens that those folks are putting on.

So you

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got to

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kind of see, and I was, I was producing around the different coverage and it was stark, the comparison between covering all the events.

So an excellent recap of Saturday's events coming up on matinee on air throughout the nine o'clock hour.

And we saw as, as one of the.

staff members from civic media that attended the Democratic Party of Wisconsin State Convention over the weekend, was covering it for the network.

There was heightened security on Saturday at the venue in the Wisconsin Dells.

You could see that there were folks on edge and that there was a sense of the really...

of the news from Minnesota, our neighboring state throughout the weekends with that increased presence at the state convention.

And you're gonna be talking with Civic Media's political editor and founder of the Reconpopulation Area who was with me there about the state convention coming up today as well.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah, Dan Schaffer is going to join us for a recap of the state convention after the 10 o'clock news.

So we will hear all of the inner workings of what happened over the weekend.

We have a new head of Wisconsin Dems.

So we will talk to Dan about that among many other things.

And then as we always do look for the last half an hour of the show, we try and lighten things up.

So we can all take a breath because we all need to get away from the news just for a little bit.

Yes.

So after 1030, it's a segment we call Audio Sorbet.

And we're going to talk, this is the hard hitting stuff we're covering on Matt and Aaron here.

Bagels toasted or no.

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All right, well, it's gonna be

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interesting.

You wouldn't think it was that hot of a discussion, but it is.

I would say

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it is one of those areas of conversation where if you talk, people are very, very motivated about their bagel preferences.

Jane Matenaer

Very passionate about bagels.

So after 10.30, heart-hitting stuff.

bagels toasted or no for our audio sorbet and then we'll wrap it up as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing today it is the catch me if you can addition it's a good one all right it's a good well they're all pretty good but yeah it is a good one

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does Leo get to make an appearance too or is

Jane Matenaer

there is travel involved okay all right travel involved with today's tis bet

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it are you having pat crite low call in from the plane

Jane Matenaer

No, Pat Crite low is going to provided Pat Crite low can get back in the country.

He is going to be on the show tomorrow.

after 9 30.

OK, there we go.

We can we can we can get adventures and travel with Pat Crite low tomorrow.

There we go.

Luke Mathers

You're going to get to hear all about it.

And folks, you can tune in tomorrow morning at six a.m.

It's going to be a fun, fun experience.

It's going to be an experiment, too, of we find out if Pat's back or if I'm going to be sitting here in the chair, filling in for Mr. Crite low if his plane continues to have mechanical issues.

Folks, you're listening to mornings with Pat Crite low.

We are joined this final segment.

of the morning by Jane McNair, host of Matt and air on air, which you can tune into and listen throughout the civic media radio network from nine until 11 each weekday morning.

And any other big subjects coming up later this week, Jane, you got

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Pat

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tomorrow.

Jane Matenaer

We have Pat tomorrow.

We also have retired Major General Randy Manor is going to be joining us tomorrow and we're going to be talking about Donald Trump electing to send in National Guard troops and military into Los Angeles where they have not been requested.

And many, many other things.

Randy Manor has joined us numerous times over the last year or so.

So I hope people can join us for that.

That's all coming up tomorrow.

Luke Mathers

All right, fantastic.

You're going to want to tune in to Matt and Air on Air weekdays across the Civic Media Radio Network, 9 to 11 a.m.

Thank you so much, Jane.

It's always a pleasure to get to talk

Jane Matenaer

to you on the air.

Good to see you, Luke.

See you later.

Good to see

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you as well.

Folks, you've been listening to Mornings with Pat Critello.

Pat will hopefully be back tomorrow morning, 6 a.m.

from then until now.

Have an excellent rest of your Monday, and we will talk to you soon.

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