How Much More? (Hour 1)

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How Much More? (Hour 1)

Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Mon Jun 16, 2025

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From the Civic Media Radio Network, this is a special live edition of Mornings with Pat Cratewell powered by UpNorth News.

Pat's not live from Lake Visota, like he normally is.

Instead, he's live, somewhere stranded in

Canada.

Joining us now is the founding editor of Up North News, Pat Critewell.

Pat Critewell

Hey, that was pretty good.

Well, thank you.

Have you ever thought of going into radio?

I've considered it once or twice.

You have?

OK.

Well, I think this could work out for you.

I think it's something you ought to consider.

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All right, that's good to know.

That's very promising for what I've got coming up here.

Pat Critewell

See, you're not just here to push buttons.

You are a true partner and broadcaster.

Remember that when this signal gives out from Canada, OK?

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That's what I'm thinking, yeah.

Pat Critewell

OK, let me give the somewhat formal welcome, shall I?

Something that goes like this.

Oh, Canada.

your airlines are not much better than ours when it comes to stranding passengers trying to get home.

So, hey there Wisconsin, good morning.

It is 6.06 on this Monday morning, 6.07 now, June 16th, 2025.

And when I say it's another beautiful morning to have you here up North, I'm not talking Lake Wissota.

I'm talking much.

Farther up north, up on the prairies of Saskatchewan.

We are 100 miles north of the Canadian border with North Dakota and Montana, not too far from Regina.

And we welcome you to another Monday from wherever you're spending your mornings listening across the Civic Media Radio Network or on the Civic Media or Up North News Facebook or YouTube pages, the Civic Media app, or by podcast.

We appreciate you starting your week right here.

Now, sadly, there is serious news from the weekend to cover, so we won't have much more to say about why I'm stuck in Canada.

It's not about troubles at the border, which we've joked about for several days here.

I haven't tried to cross the border yet, so that trouble might still be coming up.

Rather, our flight home yesterday was cancelled at the last minute due to mechanical trouble.

Now I'd rather be stuck on the ground than up in the air with a broken airplane, but we've also learned the hard way that being in a small market, this particular Canadian airline doesn't have a bunch of spare planes lying around.

So lacking any other combination of flights that would have gotten us home yesterday and believe me, I tried.

We had to sheepishly call the friends.

We were visiting for just a quick weekend visit and asked them to

come back and get us and take us in for one more day and basically take over their father's day.

And so again, a belated happy father's day to everybody else out there.

So I'm reporting from their guest room here in the basement.

The scene that you see behind me, if you're watching on social media, is their backyard of the prairies of Saskatchewan.

I'd actually hoped to cover things from there.

They have a lovely three season porch.

And it would have been great to show you that scene right there live, but it was just far enough away from their router that, you know, we may not have necessarily had a reliable signal.

And then poor Parker here would have been carrying three hours on his back.

And while it's a strong, youthful back, it's not one where he would, he was not seeking out a three hour show today.

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It's not that strong of a backpack.

Pat Critewell

Well, it gets the job done for our purposes here.

How was your weekend?

It was pretty good.

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It managed to avoid the rain, so it was a very dry weekend of Mallards games.

I was very happy with that.

Pat Critewell

Oh, good.

Okay, yeah.

Tony on YouTube, really testing that up north thing, huh?

Yep, we sure are.

Aren't you Todd Alba?

Why aren't you in your office?

And also, is this the first international show on civic media?

I never thought of us making history here.

Hmm, maybe we've done something.

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International man, Pat Cratlow.

Pat Critewell

Yes, there.

Doesn't Jane and Greg have a guest called Mr. Global?

They do.

Let's see.

And then they've got, what's his name?

Pitbull loves to call himself Mr. Worldwide.

So, I don't know, we'll come up with something else.

Is

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Austin Powers the International

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Man of Mystery?

He's an international man of mystery, so we'll need...

Didn't another way to describe the global reach that is mornings with Pat Critello on the Civic Media radio network.

Alicia saying, I'm glad you're safe on the ground as well.

Thank you, Alicia, very much.

Tony says, Mr. Global is just in Oklahoma, though.

Ah, OK.

We could just steal that title.

I mean, what's he going to do?

Cross the border to come get me?

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It's

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a

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risky business crossing the border.

I don't know.

Pat Critewell

I know, I know.

Well, I've certainly done the show from out west before visiting a daughter in Idaho, so I'm familiar with doing the show on the road.

I've done it from Kalamazoo, Michigan, where another daughter resides.

I've done the show from other cities, but yeah, never another country.

And I did worry that it wouldn't work for this reason.

In Canada, you can't get news sites on Facebook and you can't share news articles.

and I learned that the hard way, but that's one way that they combat the spread of misinformation is, you know, there are so many sites out there that, you know, claim to be one thing, but then they turn out to be something else.

We certainly saw that with all the misinformation running around this weekend after events in Minnesota, but it was very odd.

I was going to share an article and then up comes this little window saying, you know, Canada does not allow you to share news content on Facebook.

And I wasn't sure how I felt about that.

I'm like, well, wait, I trust myself to share something.

But having seen all the other garbage that gets shared out there in Facebook world, maybe this isn't the worst thing in the world.

So you couldn't share the news stories.

I thought, boy, are we going to be able to get a live stream across the border?

But we can because, you know, again, this isn't posting something on Facebook.

This is just like a phone call between me and Parker.

They don't know that you're doing news.

Yeah.

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I think we're just

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talking.

There's times I don't know if I'm doing news.

Alicia says, mornings with pack right low throughout North America.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That works.

I'm saying we could have some real reach here.

So that's the reason we are where we are here.

And in fact, because the flight that I'm taking is exactly 24 hours after the last one, unlike some, you know,

We're a Sunday morning.

I left for the airport at 8.30.

I got to leave for the airport at 8.30 here as well.

So fortunately, young Mr. Olson is there in studio.

You might even be joined by others, like maybe Luke Mathers or somebody.

But regardless, you're going to have author Laura Bird right there in studio with you at 8.30 today.

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That's true.

I'm very excited about that.

I was also found out, I don't remember who it is.

Is it Jeff is coming in, I believe, to the studio?

Oh,

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Jeff Mandel from Law Forward.

Oh, look at this.

I mean, we got more guests in studio than ever before, even as the host gets farther away from the studio than ever before.

I feel like I'm in one of those photos where they're like, Pat, stand back.

Stand back a little more.

Cross the border.

Keep going.

Keep going.

You're good.

You're good.

All right.

Everybody else come in the room.

All right, we're good.

Yep.

Yeah, exactly.

So yeah, let's talk a bit about what else is coming up on the show.

So we've mentioned Jeff Mandel from Law Forward, and author Laura Bird is going to be here as well.

Of course, it's Monday, so we hope to have Dr. Kristen Learley in coming up at 6.30.

However, she is working this weekend.

She is on call, and at least once or twice, we haven't been able to see her because, you know, those babies are naughty.

and they just show up when they want to show up.

So hopefully we'll get to talk to Kristen at 6.30.

Selena Heller will be along in time for today's history lesson.

And then sometime after seven o'clock, she'll share some of the clips that she took of a woman who helped organize the No Kings protests that were held all over the country, including in the Chippewa Valley.

That's a little after seven.

And of course, it's 7.30.

Jeff Mandell from Law Forward talking about the lawsuit they filed against Elon Musk.

What they want is for a court to look

at his attempts at what I refer to as billionaire bribery and say that, you know, there have to be better standards.

Now, there was a court attempt at the time to say that, you know, Elon Musk can't be paying voters a million dollars here, a million dollars there, offering an endless series of $100 payments to sign a petition, which is totally unrelated to the state Supreme Court race that was going on at the time.

Anyway, in the rush of things at the time, a court

declined to stop Elon Musk from doing that.

Now that things have passed, more evidence has been collected.

Law forward is going to be making the case that what Elon Musk did and what other billionaires might want to do is tantamount to voter bribery and needs to be struck down.

So Jeff Mandel will be our guest about that.

Coming up after eight o'clock, we'll talk to our friends, John Peterson and Gordy, young John and Gordy from our Civic Media Station in Madison.

Then at 8.30, author Laura Burt will be here and we'll wrap things up with Jane Mattenair telling us what's on her program.

Coming up, Mattenair on Air, along with Greg Bach, right at nine o'clock after we are all done and wrapping up here.

And of course, as we talk about the terrible events in Minnesota that happened over the weekend, I...

field duty bound to note that today is the 10th anniversary since Donald Trump rode down that escalator in his personal temple to himself and declared that he was going to be a candidate for president and convinced many of our neighbors basically to normalize everything that's wrong with allowing

the incompetent and the insensitive to run our government and control our media.

And the violence that he has espoused and the violent rhetoric that he has spread has claimed lives this weekend.

And I'm listening to everybody who might be screaming both sides, both sides.

Obviously nobody has a 100% corner on the market, but.

We know what's happening right now in the here and now.

We know enough about the suspect and his ties, his religious and political extremism.

And so it is sadly not a surprise that somebody in his position essentially snapped and decided to go on a murderous spree.

And I mean, if I had a question of the day,

it would be along those lines because we've been so busy vilifying immigrants and vilifying other minorities.

And my question for you today is, what are we finally going to do something about the real domestic terrorism out there?

That is, by and large, white guys shooting up places.

When you look at the mass shootings that we've had, when you look at what get described as, what's the acronym?

It's for right wing nut jobs.

you know, the term is out there.

And it continues to happen.

And we continue to have politicians who turn a blind eye and say, well, this is all about free dumb.

Well, this puts the dumb in freedom.

If their definition of freedom is that our gun laws are so loose that we can just now have political murders to go along with our mass shootings in this country.

And why are we accepting that?

Because we really shouldn't.

We'll talk a bit more about this as the day goes on as well.

And of course, we mentioned the No Kings protest.

We didn't mention Donald Trump's little military parade.

And let's be clear, this is nothing anti-military.

The army is 250 years old, deserved a good birthday party, did not deserve to be essentially hijacked for a vanity project by a president with a little Napoleon complex.

And frankly, that was reflected in the events.

I thought maybe a whole lot of people would go to Washington DC to protest the military parade and that things might get troublesome.

But I think enough people realize that's exactly what Donald Trump would have wanted.

He wants confrontation.

Look at what he's doing in Los Angeles.

Instead, people stayed away.

I mean, lots of people stayed away.

The crowd was embarrassingly small.

And...

The parade itself was not exactly online with what you would see in North Korea or the old Soviet Union.

That's fine by me.

I don't know how the military planned the parades, how the units would look and everything.

That, again, was not important to me.

The important part was to honor the service of the army and of all the armed forces and those who have served our country that way, rather than through something to try to appease one man.

the folks that stayed away instead took part in no-kings protests around the country, you did my heart a lot of good.

So again, coming up, Kristen Lyrely, Selena Haller, Jeff Mandel, Jimmy Cosco with sports, John and Gordy, Laura Burr, Jane Mattner, all from the heart of America's Up North, really way up north, live from the Saskatchewan Prairies.

Thanks for making this the place to spend a part of your Monday mornings.

I'm Pat Rightlow.

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Pat Critewell

started.

our Monday mornings here on the prairies of Saskatchewan, part of the prairie provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan and Manitoba.

I'm Pat Rightlow, way up north on this Monday morning, thanks to airline troubles and hopefully can get back home a little bit later today.

But here's the thing that they do have in Regina.

They have a best buy.

So when I needed to get a microphone real quick, they were able to provide this

Headset one here, which apparently is all for video gaming.

I don't I've never done this Parker I don't you know when I video gaming for me was pong Okay, and now you've got these very sophisticated things with the headsets and the microphones and everything like that so I guess I'm good to go if I want to become a gamer now I'm now properly equipped.

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What kind of games are you gonna be playing

Pat Critewell

Pat?

Just pong come in the in a newer vert probably not and if it does it's probably got

28 levels and violence and everything else.

So, you know,

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that

Pat Critewell

could be maybe there'll be color Well, that would be a change.

Yes, absolutely

Well, I don't know.

So I've got the gear, so we'll just carry on talking about the news and the sports of the day, which includes, of course, telling you that UpNorth News has a daily newsletter.

It now has one seven days a week, including a Politics One that comes out on Sundays, a Sports One on Saturdays.

And you can head over to UpNorthNewsWI.com, click Subscribe, and get ahold of these newsletters.

And in each one, we ask a question of the week.

This week it was should Governor Evers run for a third term now There are a couple of different answers to that.

There's certainly those who say yes by all means He's the one who can win.

He's got a good record to run on Whatever the Republicans run against him.

He's gonna look much more moderate and shall I say normal

Others will say he should retire because he maybe can't win that he's earned a retirement.

You know, they're fans of Governor Evers Much like Dan Schaffer's column last week and saying but it's time to pass the torch and then of course there are those who are not fans of Governor Evers who would also like him to step aside So we've already received a big bunch of answers on that And I will look forward to sharing those with you, you know throughout the course of the the coming days here and

Let's see, I actually have a few of them here in front of me.

Here's one from Justin who says, Evers should retire and not endorse a successor.

Let's have a robust primary.

Kind of shades of the presidential election last year.

Carolyn with a K just gives four thumbs up as an endorsement of Tony running for a third term.

Martha writes, until there is a more balanced state legislative body, we should keep Governor Evers and his creative workarounds around.

Now is not the time for inexperience, she writes.

Chuck writes, Tony has done a great job as Wisconsin's governor, but I'm not pushing him to run again.

He's 73 years old.

They might be time to retire.

He deserves a relaxing retirement on a Wisconsin lake and joining his grandchildren.

And if Tony runs out of money, he can do quick trip commercials.

Well, there you go.

Somebody as uniquely Wisconsin as Tony Evers, if you want to retire and do commercials for Quick Trip or Culver's or for whatever, yes.

And Alicia's right, putting up on YouTube here just now, I can see the pros and cons of both scenarios, which is what I said last week in putting up Dan Schaeffer's column and starting the discussion.

Now, there are some who say that even starting the discussion is

giving a gift to Republicans and allowing them to beat the drum that Governor Evers should retire.

I would contend that was going to happen anyway.

Governor Evers is going to announce in the coming weeks what he's going to do.

And if he decides to run for a third term, that will be a topic, no matter what, just as it would have been for, it was for President Biden before that debate performance back in June.

So.

We'll just have to see how the governor decides this Tony writes 33 votes on an Instagram post about it on civic media Basically three out of four say run Tony run and one fourth of them say not to run so again we

We don't have the scientific polling.

We have the soap box.

So tell us what you think of that and so many other issues by heading over to any of the places, including Up North News, where you can send up for a Sunday newsletter and weigh in that way or here on the comment section of this show.

And tell us what you're thinking.

The governor did speak at the Democratic State Convention in Wisconsin.

Dells over the weekend did not tip his hand one way or the other on whether he would run for a third term.

The business of the day for Democrats was picking a new state party chair.

And if you haven't heard

Devin Remaker is the new state Democratic Party chair the former executive director of the state party had been endorsed by Ben Wickler and received a near majority of the votes on the first ballot and This was the first time that they used ranked choice voting and in ranked choice voting Joseph Ecke came in second William Garcia third and so William Garcia's votes were reallocated based on

the second choice of Garcia voters.

I don't know, I'm gonna assume most if not all of Garcia's voters did have a second choice that they listed.

And enough of them were Devon Remaker to put him over the top and give a majority of the votes.

And so he will be the new state chair.

But again, William Garcia and Joseph Pecky were right there on stage, providing a united front for the party.

And again, both of those gentlemen are...

just world-class professionals and will continue to keep the party unified.

They put up good reasons why any of them would have been a good party chair heading into a year where Democrats hope to take control of the legislature, at least one if not both both bodies, and hold on to the governor's office and maybe even pick off a congressional seat or two.

So I appreciated that United Front from all of the gentlemen who decided to run because there's work to be done against people like Congressman Derek Van Orden, who again was spreading rampant disinformation and misinterpreting people's comments and basically just acting like an entitled dork, to put it mildly.

because stronger words will better describe what Derek Van Orden does with incidents like what happened over the weekend in Minnesota, but let's not give him any more attention than he deserves, except to say that we deserve better.

Hope to talk to Chris and Lylee.

We'll see how things are going for her over the weekend, and check in next.

I'm Pat Critello from Somewhere Up on the Canadian Prairies, and really up north.

What's that song that Kristen Lyrely taught me?

Nothing could be finer than be stranded in Regina in the morning.

Yeah, that works.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

That's not exactly how I said

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it.

I know.

I had to clean it up a bit for you.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely joins us now.

She is normally, on Monday mornings, when she's working, she is our true up north correspondent up in northern Minnesota.

I got you beat this time by a couple hundred miles.

SPEAKER_05

Well, aren't you special?

Take off, eh?

Pat Critewell

Yeah, take off, hoser.

No Bob and Doug McKenzie sightings here.

Although, I do want to tell you about one of the natural features of Saskatchewan.

As we were driving around town to do a couple of things with our friends over the weekend, they pointed out this area about the size of a baseball field, or a large parking lot, with a lot of big brown mounds on there.

And our friend James said, guess what those are?

And I said, you know, we're like wood chips.

Is it compost?

Is it whatever?

He's like, no, those are still all the snow piles from plowing the streets of Regina.

There's still all these piles about eight to 10 feet high.

And of course, it's all dirty snow, but still out there on this June 16th.

melting away up here on the prairie.

It's

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all different.

There's so much snow.

What I've noticed up here in Hibbing, Minnesota is that they plow the snow into the middle of the street and then they come back with a dump truck and a front loader and they take it away that way because there's just so much snow that you can't just push it off to the side.

So if we think we're way up north in Wisconsin,

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

yeah, there's

SPEAKER_05

a whole different level.

Pat Critewell

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

Without a doubt.

Were you busy this weekend?

Birth and babies?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

Can I tell you just one of the coolest stories?

So of course we had this delightful birthday yesterday and the dad had the most wonderful playlist people will often bring like they'll queue up Playlists for their birth experience and he had all the classics like you know push it by Sultan Peppa and like be my baby by the Ronettes every song had something to do with babies But when she was like right just ready to deliver he said hand me my phone and all of a sudden we heard

No

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kidding, like

Pat Critewell

the baby

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

was born as the circle of life was playing.

We were all like crying, it was great.

Pat Critewell

That's something, it's like your first dad joke as you become a dad is to pull that one.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

He was so proud of himself, he'd been planning it for months.

Pat Critewell

Well, I'm glad it worked.

So Kristen Liderley joins us from way down south as far as I see it from up here in Saskatchewan.

where again we're making light of today's situation and there is there is no good way to transition into you know what happened over the weekend especially since I mean you were one of the first people I thought of after the killings of the the lawmaker and her husband and the shootings of another lawmaker and his wife and I had a sense that you might you know know them or had met them and so I reached out to you right away and you know

to know your thoughts on Representative Hortman there.

And I guess I just want to give you free reign to talk a bit about what happened to Melissa Hortman and to State Senator John Hoffman.

Melissa Hortman was a former for six years, was Speaker of the Minnesota House of Representatives, was still the Democratic leader.

was doing a stellar job putting Minnesota on a good political track before all of this happened.

SPEAKER_05

Melissa Hartman was a brilliant leader.

So many of the gains that we've seen in Minnesota, the progressive gains were the brainchild of Melissa Hartman and the work of Melissa Hartman.

And it was hard work.

And one of the themes that we kept seeing over and over this weekend was that she voted, it was a controversial vote.

She and her colleague voted against immigrants, Minnesota giving immigrants health care.

And that was a hard vote for her to take, but it was what she needed to do.

in order to get this giant omnibus budget bill across the line.

Pat Critewell

Let me make that point for folks because we've said here in Wisconsin that if a state budget bill doesn't pass, government doesn't shut down.

You just continue things at the old budget spending level.

Minnesota's different.

They will shut down state government if they don't pass a budget bill.

And the House of Representatives there is tied 67, 67.

So in a power sharing agreement,

Melissa Hortman stepped down.

A Republican is currently serving as Speaker.

And again, there was a need to pass this budget and Republicans would not pass.

They were prepared to shut down government services for all unless the provision included denying Medicaid to undocumented immigrants.

And that was a vote that Melissa had to take.

And so you can pick up the story from there.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it was a grueling vote.

I mean, you could see there's video all over the internet about it.

She's tearful talking about it.

And it was so disgusting, Pat.

I'm sure you saw some of the misinformation that was out there that this was the motive for someone from the far left to assassinate these leaders.

Pat Critewell

It would be one thing if it was just your common internet troll but unfortunately the common internet trolls today include former governor Scott Walker and current Congressman Derek Van Orden who passed these things along and then had all kinds of unhinged things to say about you know the far left and Scott Walker At least had the decency if that's the right word to delete his post when it turned out not to be the case last I checked Derek Van Orden still up there along with a whole

assortment of other folks who want you to see anything other than what this gunman really was about, what his past was, his speaking, the comments that he made to, or the text that he sent to friends before, you know, doing this heinous thing.

And it's just infuriating the stuff that, you know, like a Republican U.S.

Senator

from Utah was posting about this.

We want to say be better, but we can't even find that in some of our leaders these days.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, not even close and not for a long time.

I mean, I guess it's not that surprising to see this.

It's just really disgusting.

And another piece of information that was twisted was that the assailant was appointed to a governor's task force in Minnesota by governor walls back in 2019.

It was actually a second appointment to a non-political body in the state, but that too was used as evidence that this was an inside job from

from the far left, really disappointing stuff.

Of course, that was, again, a non-political body.

This was not a political appointment.

Governor Wells did not know this man.

This evidence is coming out now that has substantiated that this man was a Donald Trump voter.

He is an evangelical Christian who appears to be in financial trouble.

And there are numerous other pieces of information that we're starting to figure out as they're unpacking this case and having captured the assailant.

in rural southwestern Minnesota.

Pat Critewell

Yes, near an area where he has another residence.

So folks, we're looking there in one of the, if not the largest manhunt in Minnesota history.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

By far.

Pat Critewell

And...

Obviously people were thinking of you because this guy had notebooks.

They're now backing off saying a manifesto, but certainly a lot of notes and lists of names that included all kinds of folks, including doctors, including legislators, including people from Wisconsin.

And until this guy was caught, there was a lot of angst out there about what else this guy might be able to do.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, I'm sure there still is.

I mean, there's concern about copycat crimes.

We know that there were 11 Wisconsin elected leaders on the list.

So the legislature was informed there was extra security at the convention over the weekend.

And a number of abortion providers and clinics were also on this list.

And it wasn't like a concise list.

It was kind of a scattershot of thoughts and not an organized manifesto.

So it's been a little confusing to interpret.

But I can tell you that my colleagues in

who are OBGYN doctors, they are outspoken leaders, many of them are abortion providers, leaders at Planned Parenthood.

It's been a very tense weekend for my colleagues and myself.

Pat Critewell

And then there was a course that's called by public safety officials to maybe not go to the protests on Saturday because of concerns for their safety.

And in Minnesota, what that meant was,

on the capital grounds, on the state capital grounds, more than 80,000 people said no.

We are not letting this one nut get in the way of us making a statement about what kind of government we want and how we should all be able to come together peacefully.

And that's what tens of thousands of people did there and people all across Wisconsin and all over the country.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

And just in Minnesota, we had 500 people and the town only has 3000.

So that was pretty great.

Yeah.

I was surprised though.

I was in Minneapolis when the twins won the World Series in 87.

And I remember people as we were flooding toward the metronome, stopping and obeying walk signals.

So I really thought that the numbers would be low.

But no, it was an incredible turnout.

There were beautiful things happening.

There were food drives and communities coming together, volunteer booths.

It was about bringing people to

and uplifting each other, it was not about anger and violence.

And that, getting that many people together and having it be as positive and hopeful as it was, was a truly beautiful thing.

Pat Critewell

It really was.

And again, for those folks who wanted to make it seem like it was some kind of budding insurrection or something, I would again, first A, January 6th, that was an

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insurrection.

Pat Critewell

That's what that kind of a demonstration looks like.

But no, the more the point was, we're not looking to...

overthrow the government today or ever.

We have elections for that.

We're looking to make the point that here in this country, we have the right to protest.

And so many people feel alone.

So many people feel like, well, too much of the country has accepted this normalization of violence and rhetoric and division.

And it was great that people came together and said, no, we're better than this and we will act

at the right point to get a better day and the kind of leaders that espouse American values and that whatever.

This is that we have to deal with right now.

SPEAKER_05

And the conversations.

Bringing people together.

I mean, Kristen Brie in Milwaukee had a great video of taking her mom to her first protest.

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And

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her mom is singing songs from Les Mis and the Card.

She's so excited and fired up.

This is what we need is to bring people together and have these conversations.

I was in a meeting just to pivot a little bit.

with Senator Elizabeth Warren last week about the big beautiful bill and how many people know about the big beautiful bill we talk about it all the time but in fact one in four people

No, three and four people have no idea what this means.

All they're hearing is that top-line messaging.

If anything, they have no idea what the implications are.

They have no idea that the hospital I work at in Northern Minnesota will likely close if this big beautiful bill passes, as will the hospital in Manitowoc, Wisconsin, and 38 hospitals in Louisiana.

And that's one little piece of it.

So it is incumbent upon us to have these conversations.

with each other, not in a hostile way, not with all of these ugly misinformation talking points, but in a genuine way about our values and the things that we deeply care about.

Pat Critewell

And we've certainly seen that as the, you know, the big bloated boondoggle continues to work its way through the U.S.

Senate is more and more people becoming aware saying, this is not what I voted for.

This is not what I expected as a Trump voter.

They expected a more, shall we say, business-like approach toward identifying waste and fraud and things like that.

And instead, are getting something that they understand is gonna hurt them, gonna hurt their family, gonna hurt their economy, gonna hurt people.

And as we'll hear from Selena Heller in the story about the Chippewa Valley rally, there were plenty of people that were happy to see that there are Republicans in there.

in

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that

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crowd who said, we can do better than this.

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And

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so Selena Heller will tell us much more about that.

Coming up, she's gonna join us for today's history lesson.

Then after the seven o'clock news, we'll get into that a bit more.

We'll then talk to Jeff Mandel from Law Forward about the suit that he and others are bringing to end billionaire bribery in our Supreme Court elections.

Author Laura Bird still ahead as well on this Monday morning from Northern Minnesota, from the prairies of Saskatchewan, and from Wisconsin, of course, here across the Civic Media Radio Network.

Back in a bit.

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We're going to start today's history lesson with the OJs and Edward Lavert, who is 83 years old today, kicking off today's history lesson.

The OJs, which used to be my girl, of course, they gave us love train and backstabbers and for the love of money.

You know that one?

Money, money, money.

Money.

Anyway, and I love music and some others.

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_05

You get that note.

Pat Critewell

I did not expect that out of you, Pat.

Anyway, and Selena Heller joins us as well, a North News reporter and has a prop with her.

A prop, a furball that is finally welcomed because let me jump ahead to the National Day calendar.

Today is National Take Your Cat to Work Day.

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Congratulations, Whiskers.

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You're finally welcomed here.

It's so great to see you for a day.

Look at that look of his like, yep, I'm the king.

It's good to be the king.

SPEAKER_04

I'm here.

I'm here today and every day.

Pat Critewell

Yep, exactly.

Tupac Shakur was born this day in 1971, born Lesain Parish Crooks before passing away in 1996.

Also on the birthday list today professional golfer Phil Mickelson is 55 years old today Let's hear a little bit from David Bowie who released his fifth studio album this day in 1972 This of course would be suffragette city from the rise and fall of Ziggy Stardust and the spiders from Mars on many

People's List is among the best albums of all time.

It was on this day in 1978 that Grease, starring John Travolta and Olivia Newton-John opened up in theaters.

I didn't queue up a song for this one because I knew, I knew Kristen Liarley would give us something without even prompting.

Kristen Lyrely

We'd go together like rum, rum, rum, rum, rum.

Everybody remember forever that shawap, shawadawada zippity-boom-dee-boom.

Pat Critewell

See, we still have to pay license fees for this.

Also, the number one album this day in 1979 was Donna Summer's seventh studio album, Bad Girls.

You wanna take some of the licensing rights for that one too,

SPEAKER_05

Kristen?

Sure, Selena, you with me?

You start, I don't know.

Kristen Lyrely

Bad girls, right?

Talking about the bad girls.

Am I

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right?

Yeah, something like that.

On this day in 1980, the Blues Brothers movie premiered in Chicago and gave a nice boost to Aretha Franklin, James Brown, and Ray Charles, folks like that.

And then in 1990, the number one hit was by Roxette.

And I know you're like, wait, you could have played something from Grease or the Blues Brothers or Donna Summer and you went with Rockset.

I knew Kristen would fill the void perfectly for us.

SPEAKER_05

That's a little high for me this

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morning.

As noted at the top of the show, it's an unfortunate anniversary that it was 10 years ago today, 2015, that Donald Trump rode down an escalator and announced his campaign to run for president.

Forgive us, Lord, for whatever we did to deserve that.

Because it was...

It was ridiculed at the time.

And rightly so by a whole lot of Republicans who said, we're never voting for that guy.

SPEAKER_05

Well, and was it real?

I mean, would he really intend to be the president or was it a press stunt at the time?

It was a press stunt.

Pat Critewell

It was.

It was.

And suddenly he realized he had tapped into something with, you know, all kinds of grievances and perceived victimhood.

And again, that's not who Donald Trump was.

Donald Trump was a New York liberal.

for a big chunk of his life until it was convenient for him as a businessman to make some money going into politics.

And he's normalized all of this arm sweeping gesture around us ever since.

And it all started 10 years ago today.

Along with take your cat to work day.

This is clean your kitchen vents day.

Who comes up with these?

Clean your kitchen vents.

I mean, especially if you've got it for everywhere.

This is international waterfall day.

I should have had something prepped about the ways you can see all these waterfalls around northern Wisconsin and upper Michigan and northern Minnesota.

There's all kinds of great waterfall trips that

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you can go

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on here.

It's World Sea Turtle Day, which is something we talked about here.

We're visiting friends in Canada, but these are friends that we actually met and made when we lived down in Grand Cayman.

And down there on a couple of the beaches, if you're out swimming in the ocean, you will still see some sea turtles and you can swim along with the sea turtles.

You know, don't touch them, but they don't mind.

They're just going around doing their thing.

This is Learning Disabilities Week.

This is a national fudge day.

So head over to, what's that candy shop down the road?

Killwinds, is it?

Down on State Street and then up in Monaco and elsewhere.

Go get yourself some nice fresh fudge.

And finally, this is National Diabetes Week.

They go

Kristen Lyrely

together.

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Yeah, I was gonna say.

Yeah, so.

Kristen Lyrely

You're welcome.

Pat Critewell

Kristen could probably tell you something about, again, taking care of yourself, monitoring your meds or your blood sugars.

SPEAKER_05

Fudge

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and

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moderation.

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Fudge and moderation.

I ate

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so much fudge, I worked at a candy shop.

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When did you work at a candy shop?

SPEAKER_04

Oh gosh, in college.

So yeah, I made fudge at a candy store.

Oh my, I ate so much fudge.

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That sounds awesome.

That sounds so good.

SPEAKER_04

Right now it's like tummy grumbling.

And oh my gosh, any kind you could imagine.

Pat Critewell

Did they serve tapeworms as well that you're still basically a size zero after all these years?

SPEAKER_04

Well, we had ice cream, jelly bellies, all sorts of things, and I just, I ate so much.

Pat Critewell

Oh, there's so many people jealous right now.

But all right, Clyde, Clyde, it worked out for you.

Hang around, you're going to tell us about the chip, one of the organizers of the Chippewa Valley No Kings Rally that was held over the weekend.

And Dr. Lirely sticks around as well.

Parker Olsna is with us from Madison.

We're going to have

Jeffrey Mandel from Law Forward Inn at 7.30.

Author Laura Bird at 8.30.

That and much more on this Monday morning where I'm live from Saskatchewan.

Stranded, hoping to get home soon here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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