Meet Me Halfway (Hour 1)

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Meet Me Halfway (Hour 1)

Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Fri Jun 13, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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Pat Kreitlow

Well, I'd like to say here's Pat Critello, here's Pat Critello, here's Parker Olson, but I have to add, here's Pat Critello, here's Parker Olson, and here's Friday the 13th, because it's Friday, June 13th.

And the gremlins are running a muck on our computers here.

I just realized somebody had changed the colors.

Somebody had changed the camera setting on here.

And now I realize somebody changed the font as well on here, the print.

Again, on radio, that's no big deal.

But for all the rest of us who are trying to get some work done here, things are just.

They're just a little out of whack here, but you know,

the wheels are off the bus.

Pat Kreitlow

It's Friday.

We're going Friday the 13th.

We're just going to embrace it.

Frankly, you know what?

I just I just might try different fonts every segment here for folks watching on social media.

So if you see some calligraphy in there, if you see some hieroglyphics, you know, just just roll with it.

Maybe that's because in part I normally say it's a beautiful morning to have you here up north live from Lake Wissota across the civic media radio network.

Tony.

putting up on YouTube the font name.

I know Tony.

I'm not seeing it here.

It's suddenly gone.

It's suddenly gone.

The font that I want to use.

I love that Tony has that.

Wait, Tony.

Tony says no, not Montserrat.

Go with Papyrus.

Papyrus.

Oh, God.

I'm a big fan of lobster.

You can find that.

You know,

Pat Kreitlow

again, I don't want to take anything away from our radio pleasure here.

Yeah, we we could change this to all kinds of nonsense if we wanted to.

Anyway, this is this is this is that is just annoying here.

Let me take that data.

Let's just take all I can't do it.

I can't take any of the bad print off the screen here.

Let me just move right over into telling you what is going to be on the program today.

Shall we?

Yes.

In this hour, if you missed our

conversation with Senate Democratic Leader Diane Hesselbein yesterday.

We're going to play back little parts of it about the state budget.

The Joint Finance Committee met yesterday.

That's the very powerful budget writing committee of the legislature.

And Republicans basically proved what we've known all week.

they were not willing to meet Governor Tony Evers halfway.

They worked on the stuff that they could agree on, where Evers met them halfway on tax cuts, but they fell woefully short of what's needed in a state budget to adequately run the state.

So we'll have some details on that coming up in just a bit.

In our eight o'clock hour, we'll talk to Judge Chris Taylor about her candidacy for a seat on the Wisconsin Supreme Court next year, a race that might feature her going up against incumbent right-wing Justice Rebecca Bradley.

We'll also be joined by Dr. Kristin Lierly as both women talk about their ongoing work to protect women's health care rights.

We will have our Week in Review panelists talking about the latest effort by the Trump regime to have a permanent military presence in major American cities and a possible setback after a judge ruled the president did not properly take control of the National Guard away from California's governor.

But then an appeals court put everything on pause.

So we will review media coverage of the events as well.

And Mike Clemens will have all kinds of sports talk for the weekend on and off the court, including love and marriage.

That would be marriages for Jordan Love and Aaron Rodgers separately, not together.

Thank you.

I'll be here all well till nine o'clock anyway.

And also a Brewer's pitching phenom has his major league debut last night.

and it went in the way that all things Brewers have seemed to go this year for starting pitchers.

Mr. Mizoroski was having the time of his life, 23 year old, major league debut.

Jacob Mizoroski, five innings of no hit ball.

He was taking a no hitter into the sixth inning, landed on his ankle funny, a couple of pitches in.

was also feeling cramping in his right leg, had to leave the game with a no-hitter going in the sixth inning.

It apparently is not anything serious, we think, we hope, we pray, but for Jacob Mizorowski it was an amazing start and he got run support.

This time, as the Brewers beat the Cardinals six to nothing last night, they will do it again tonight at American Family Field, 7-10 the first pitch, so 6-35 the pregame on Civic Media stations all across Wisconsin.

So again, you'll want to head over to the website civicmedia.us and learn more about where you can hear the Brewers, although I can tell you that it would also include the newest Brewers affiliate WBZH in Hayward.

So tune in there.

And then there's playoff hockey.

If Parker has learned nothing and Parker's learned a lot, it's that I love playoff hockey.

It's a little weird in June, but it's still, it's still a lot of fun to watch because you get things like this where Edmonton was behind, I think it was three to one.

Was it three to one or three to nothing after the first period?

And I thought, well, that's it, you know, that's all done.

Cause again, I can't stay up late.

Only to wake up this morning, find out Edmonton had come all the way back and took, tied it at three, then went up four to three, then with 20 seconds left in regulation, Florida tied it at four, four.

The crowd goes wild in Florida.

They go to overtime in about 12 minutes into overtime.

Edmonton scores.

and wins the game.

Final score five to four in overtime and so that series is now tied at two games apiece the Stanley Cup finals.

Game five is set for Saturday night in Edmonton.

There will be a game six one way or the other next Tuesday in Florida and if a deciding seventh game is needed it will be a week from tonight next Friday in Edmonton and in the NBA playoffs they're back in action tonight.

Game four

in Indiana.

Again, Indiana is up two games to one on Oklahoma City, which I'm pretty sure nobody I'm not going to say nobody put money on it, but it was shall we say that wasn't the conventional wisdom that Indiana would would have any kind of a lead in the series?

Surely somebody thought

this would happen.

Pat Kreitlow

Well, I mean, yeah, the whole great state of Indiana, I'm sure.

Great

state of Indiana.

Pat Kreitlow

Well, they would again, they would say so.

Okay, sure.

From what I from what I've driven across, you know, meh.

Yeah.

That's

what I

Pat Kreitlow

thought.

Yeah.

Okay.

So anyway, Mike Clemens will tell us much more about these stories and more Packers minicamp coming.

And there's also a Brewer's pitcher who is requesting a trade because of course, you know, this year with the way the Brewer's pitching ranks have gone.

He doesn't want to

get injured.

That's probably why.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah, maybe that's it.

Aaron Savali just doesn't want to get hurt because he sees there's like a

You know, somebody turned a horseshoe upside down in the locker room or something.

Yes,

Pat Kreitlow

Tony.

Great state of Indiana.

I know.

Sorry.

It's

Pat Kreitlow

OK.

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Brittany Merlot will be here in the next hour but does tell us her state forecast today says showers and storms are just going to be the trend now popping up at various times and dampening parts of the weekend and that's

That's really all she wrote.

It's going to rain at times and it's not like a defined front where we can tell you exactly when and where.

It's not like a thunderstorm front that comes through and you really know when to expect it.

Here it's going to be off and on.

Plenty of clouds today, she says in the forecast.

Cool occasional showers.

A thunderstorm is possible here and there.

Heist today only in the mid 50s up north, upper 70s south and an east wind today at 10 to 20 miles an hour.

And isn't there anything

quite like rain pouring down and an east wind at 20 miles an hour, whipping it up in your face.

For tonight, light rain is likely lows in the upper 40s up north, mid 50s south and east wind at five to 15 miles an hour.

It's at this point, Parker, we we pause for a moment of silence for those who said, you know, Father's Day weekend, that's the weekend I want to go camping.

Let's take dad.

Yeah.

Should we waterproof the tent?

No, it'll be fine.

It'll be okay.

We got this.

You know, Dom, who's producer for John and Gordy's show, he actually is going camping this weekend.

No.

Yeah.

I think that him and his girlfriend, I think he said are going to Devils Lake this weekend.

Pat Kreitlow

Sorry, Dom.

Yeah.

Don't know what to tell you.

Roger and Steven's point puts on Facebook, the earliest sunrise of the year, according to timeanddate.com, will be Sunday.

In Warsaw, it'll be

rising at five 11 AM and Eau Claire at five 19 AM.

And I do always like that.

You know, it's not, it's not the longest day of the year because of the way the whole, you know, earth works,

you know,

Pat Kreitlow

but we get the earliest sunrise of the year, a few days before the summer solstice.

And yeah, this is as early as it gets.

And it, when you compare it to the dead of winter, when the sun doesn't come up till almost noon, this feels way

better.

Pat Kreitlow

I am very happy about that.

So Dom's going

camping.

What about

Pat Kreitlow

you?

I am working Friday, Saturday, Sunday at Mallard's Games.

Pat Kreitlow

Oh, OK.

So yeah.

Which I would normally say, oh, fun.

And then I realized it might be kind of a rainy weekend.

And so.

I'm only worried about Sunday, I think.

Okay, I think that's the only day I've got to worry about and frankly that is the worst day to have to worry about because I do have to work here on Monday So hopefully we don't get rain like we did a lot last year and get delayed for like two hours And I end up getting home at 11 30 12 o'clock.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes Well, we'll keep our fingers crossed for you and hope and have the mallards just score early and often

It'll be good.

Gonna visit some friends this weekend.

I've got, which on the one hand, if I hadn't made this commitment, I'm sure I would pop in at the State Democratic Convention and see what's going on with the election of a new chair and all the other talk.

It's always good to see, you know, people there.

But I did make this commitment to go see some friends that I haven't seen for about a year.

So I'm gonna go travel and visit them.

Basically, we've done a lot of traveling, you know, like I said, we did the vacation and we did our grants.

As far as I

know, you only travel, Pat.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah, I know.

And so we said, this is it.

This is it.

And after this, people come to us because, you know, you got the lake, you got the pontoon, you got the guest room and everything else.

So we will pick up all those travels again in the fall, but the Crite Low Bed and Breakfast will be open for business starting next week.

In fact, it will be next week.

We have two different groups that are coming next week to stay at our place.

So I got to get the waffle irons out.

I got

Pat Kreitlow

to get the griddle ready because I am, I am the, the, the, the breakfast maker

whenever

Pat Kreitlow

we have the bed and breakfast open and we make up those chip waffles and some bacon and all kinds of good stuff.

Plus I have my, my little espresso pot now.

I don't need no big fancy machine.

I got, I got the little pot I make at old school.

There you go.

Well, you wouldn't know you haven't had espresso.

No, I haven't.

You haven't had instant coffee, much less anything else that's up the ladder, but we'll work on it.

You'll work on it.

I'm fine.

I don't know.

I think we're going to work on your palate, shall we say.

Well, working on the palate, sure.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah,

okay.

Pat Kreitlow

I mean, we can try.

Let's pause here and then we'll get into what's in our daily newsletter and what's in the news today.

First, I tell you as always, from the heart of America's Up North, live from Lake Wissota, thank you for making this the place to spend part of your mornings.

I'm Pat Critello.

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Pat Kreitlow

Welcome back everybody to Pat picks a font during the commercial break.

We are able to find a reasonable facsimile of what we normally use.

So we normally we no longer look like like we just discovered a quill and a jar of ink brewers at St.

Louis or brewers versus St.

Louis again coverage starts at 635 across the civic media radio network and

Let's see.

Roger saying Ariel is the standard font he uses at work.

Yes, as it is for all of our documents.

Tony saying the show seems so new and refreshed with this fancy new font.

Yeah, that's that's how I'd put it.

Roger from Stevens Point.

The Mallards are in first place in their division.

The Wausau Woodchucks are just a half game behind.

Let's

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go.

And Tony says, I saw a place to sign up for the Politics newsletter on our website.

I didn't see the bed and breakfast sign up on the website.

Did I miss it?

No, you did not.

I, that's a, it's one of those by invitation only kind of deals.

So which one of these days we're going to do a, you know, a morning show retreat up here.

We'll get some of the civic media folks up here.

We'll do a little pontoon ride.

We'll stop at the mallard resort up here.

It'll be a good time.

Different mallard.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah.

Not your mallards.

No, nice, nice little, a nice little watering hole up on the river here.

Ah, you know, I'm a fan of water, so that's good.

It's not that, not that

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kind of watering hole, but I understand, I understand that you get the joke.

Okay.

Let's tell you what's in the Up North News daily newsletter.

Christina Laurie puts it together, signed up over at Up North News WI.com.

And again, she's following the series from Food Network, 25 iconic eats and drinks from America's Dairyland.

Today, it's the Kringle.

Wisconsin loves Kringle.

How should I put this?

Maybe not all because, again, I've spent a lot of time in western Wisconsin.

And there's not as much cringle.

Nobody says bubbler here for the drinking fountain.

But again, if you use, you know, say 51 as your, or 39 as your spine of Wisconsin, east of there, folks love their cringle.

They'll head over to Racine.

They'll head to Green Bay.

They'll head to other places to get their favorite pastry.

learn more about it in our newsletter.

And, uh, oh, here, here's a surprise.

We do a lot of stories about anything that's popular in Wisconsin.

That includes culvers.

That includes quick trip.

And that always leads to correspondence from folks who say, well, you know, what about their political donations?

Here's a headline that Christians put in.

Let's talk about Culver's political donations and.

There she notes, as I've said here on the program as well, that for example, Craig Culver has a decades-long history of political contributions, not just Republicans, Democrats too, including yours truly, back in my legislative days, because it's very clear that there are certain people

and I'm not casting aspersions at all but there are certain people who like to make political donations to incumbents to the people who are currently in office and during my time in office that included donations to Jim Doyle and since then the Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer and so you know whatever his personal politics are which he is not very vocal about if you base things just on donations you sometimes need to know

kind of the whole backstory of the way that some people make their political donations and Christina writes about that in our newsletter.

Again, sign up at upnorthnewswi.com.

Well, the Joint Finance Committee met yesterday in the legislature.

Now, before you start snoring or turning the dial, we're going to try to keep this real basic here.

Okay, the legislature takes your tax dollars and every two years passes a state budget.

and says, okay, here's how we're gonna do the state income tax and other taxes.

Here's how we're gonna do the spending on schools and on the roads and business development and the environment and things like that.

And we have a $4 billion surplus, but we've also underfunded schools for 16 consecutive years compared to the rate of inflation.

That's why you see so many referendums.

Schools are in crisis more than ever because of this chronic underfunding.

Republicans have said, well, we got this $4 billion surplus and we want tax cuts.

And after months of back and forth behind the scenes, the governor got to a point where he agreed to a lot of what the Republicans want to do for tax cuts, but the Republicans wouldn't come nearly as far as he thought they should go in terms of, you know, investing in our schools and things like that.

So yesterday, to really make it official,

Republicans on the Joint Finance Committee did work on the tax cut part of the budget.

And, you know, it is something that you could in the details see that Governor Evers would look at it and go, all right, it's not exactly what I would do, but I would go along with this.

But then on the spending side on her school side, let's just look at special education reimbursement for a moment.

Because every school district, you know, you

School districts can't say, oh, you can't come.

Everybody gets an education who comes, every child, including those with disabilities that might need special education.

It is, by nature, more expensive to provide that.

And so for years and years, state government said, here, we will help out local school districts and we will reimburse some of the cost of your special education.

Now, once upon a time, that rate was something like 80% and then came down to 60% and on and on.

And then it was down to 30%.

And Republicans have agreed to bring it from 32% to 37.5.

Now,

What did Governor Evers want?

He said, let's bring it up to 60%.

Again, still not as good as it used to be, but it would really help stop the cycle of referendums if we could help school districts with their special education costs.

Republicans said, now the best we can do is 37.5%.

But by the way, they fund the voucher schools.

They fund that reimbursement at 90%.

So again, it's about choosing priorities like private schools and

tax cuts rather than investing in all schools across the state.

We'll hear more from Senate Democratic leader Diane Hesselebein after the Midwest Farm Report on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Next week on the program, we'll have Jeff Mandel on Monday from the Progressive Legal Group Law Forward against the new suit that they have filed against Elon Musk in an attempt to get courts to rule once and for all on the matter of what I would call billionaire bribery.

To what degree can somebody of immense wealth buy up so much communication space in Wisconsin by offering money to voters, not directly for their vote, but in a way that's really, really, really close to it.

Should we keep allowing that?

Is there a line someplace that even a billionaire can't cross in Wisconsin?

Jeff Mandel will talk about that.

We'll also be joined by author Laura Bird on the subject of memoirs.

which are not the same as an autobiography.

And she'll talk about what memoirs are and some really good ones that she would recommend you adding to your summer reading list.

On Tuesday, we'll have Hans Breitenmoser.

I'm sure we'll be talking about comments that President Trump made online yesterday saying, gosh, our farmers are really getting hit hard by this immigration crackdown.

We're going to have to do something about it.

Really.

Well, when you're not busy trying to, you know, have the military take over every major American city, you know, maybe look at what your mass deportation thing is doing to farms in Wisconsin and elsewhere and the agribusiness industry as a whole and then get back to us.

In the meantime, by the way, in California, one judge said that

President Trump did not legally take away control of the California National Guard from Governor Gavin Newsom and has to put the guard back under the governor's control, but an appeals court then quickly said, well, we want to hear it.

So it froze everything in place.

So there hasn't been much of a change since yesterday, one that we will continue to monitor based on the ongoing court fights about when a president should adhere to the law.

And then finally on Tuesday, Dan Schaeffer from the recombobulation area, he will recap the State Democratic Convention and have reaction to his column about Governor Evers and whether he should run for a third term.

All right, before the Joint Finance Committee met yesterday, we had a chance to talk yesterday with State Senate Democratic Leader Diane Hesselebein.

I began by asking her about the way that Republicans walked away from negotiations with Governor Evers and whether she knew if there was anything new to report on Republican progress on reaching any kind of agreement with the governor on a new state budget.

Let's visit now with State Senator Diane Hesselbein of Middleton.

She's the Senate Minority Leader and joins us now to talk a bit about the state budget and other goings on in my former workplace over there.

Senator, how are you?

I'm doing well, Pat.

How are you doing this morning?

Pat Kreitlow

I'm good.

It's nice to have you along to give a little update on things.

You know, the last major update that any of us got on the state budget was hearing, well, first off,

somewhat surprisingly to some of us that that Republican leadership and Governor Evers or at the staff level had been talking for weeks and weeks here apparently but we didn't learn that until we learned that Republicans had apparently broken off negotiations and walked away that's the last we heard of it was was that kind of your understanding of how things had unfolded and was there any

any news, any breakthroughs to report since then?

Not really.

The governor did meet with the Republican leaders, though, himself, and then staffed it as well.

And I think they were getting pretty close to an agreement, and unfortunately, the Republicans just walked away.

It's unfortunate, because I think if they would have went to their individual caucuses and said, look, we can get some of these things done, that there were their priorities, and the governor also wanted...

some of the governor's priorities funded in the budget, it seemed like that kind of a situation would be a win-win for the state of Wisconsin.

But unfortunately, the Republicans walked away and they are just doing the budget as they always have by themselves.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah, I mean, I don't know how many times I have to say this.

With a $4 billion surplus, you can find a win-win.

There's no shortage of paths to a win-win.

And I did wonder,

how much of this was leadership driven, or maybe leadership was actually close to a compromise, but they had some far right members in their caucus who wouldn't vote for it.

I can think of a few of them off the top of my head.

But whatever the reason, I think the governor framed it pretty well in saying that he was willing to meet them halfway on tax cuts, even though

they wouldn't be exactly how he would have designed them, but that Republicans wouldn't meet him halfway on making some of the key investments that a state budget is supposed to do.

Is that your understanding as well?

Exactly.

The governor made it clear to them and to us as well that, you know, he's still fighting for K-12 education, childcare, and higher education.

Those are things that are very important to him, and unfortunately, the Republicans refused to meet him halfway.

Pat Kreitlow

Which, again, is what

what a budget process is supposed to be about to say, look, here are various priorities.

Let's talk about a couple of individual notes that may be part of this or may be considered on either side of the budget bill.

We just spoke in the last segment about the stewardship program and how it appeared Republicans that had introduced a bill that would, in fact, make some investments into the Knowles Nelson Stewardship Program.

to learn now that there's a quote unquote trailer bill that's attached which if it doesn't pass then the original legislation doesn't pass and I I tried to explain the concept of a poison pill without necessarily saying that this is what it is but this is what to be on the lookout for because I mean sadly senator this is this is not news of something that we've seen tried a few times in the past.

Absolutely.

And I know I've had discussions with Republican colleagues about the importance of Knowles Nelson and certainly there have been a lot of environmental activists that have come in and advocates that have come in to tell us the importance of Knowles Nelson and those important green spaces that we're able to save all across the state of Wisconsin.

So I am hopeful that we're going to get something good done for Knowles Nelson.

I do not believe it'll be happening in the budget.

I believe it'll be something we'll be dealing with this fall.

Pat Kreitlow

Okay, so.

Again, more more to come on on that one as well, which is completely understandable.

There's other legislation to consider.

So let's get to some that Democrats have introduced lately.

And that included packages of bills or package of bills, I should say, that is designed to essentially defend Wisconsin against some of the excesses of what the Trump administration is trying to do.

We spoke very briefly about it with Senator Chris Larson on Monday.

So I'm glad we've got a couple of extra minutes here to expound.

on it, but what are the ways that Democrats are proposing that could send a message to the Trump administration saying, you know, you can't do these things.

And if you do try to do them, here's what the state of Wisconsin would do in return.

Yeah, we have a whole package of bills that we were trying to be creative as soon as we saw what was happening in the federal government.

What can Wisconsin do?

What can we as lawmakers do in the state of Wisconsin to stand up to these mega Republicans and Donald Trump?

So one of them was protecting Wisconsin taxpayers from unlawful federal actions by withholding funds.

And that what that would do is provides the state, the Wisconsinist, a way to respond when the federal government fails to send money that was legally promised through Congress.

Certainly we know what

President Trump is doing with a lot of these actions is unconstitutional.

What can we do?

We can hold and block funds as well.

So we were looking at how to do that in a creative way that would make sense for Wisconsinites.

And I know that other states are looking at these bills and considering the same type of action.

Pat Kreitlow

Well, because again, it's not even clear that some of these actions are legal in the first place.

And so states have to look for.

whatever recourse they can get.

The one that really caught my attention as you mentioned being creative on these things was making sure that sensitive personal data couldn't be shared unless it was being done essentially in accordance with law, with existing law and not some executive order that may or may not stand up in court when all is said and done.

So again, you've got legislators who are not just looking out for the public dollars, but your own private data.

Honestly,

that's something that we're hearing about at listening sessions and all across the state is people being worried.

Who has their data?

How are they using it?

Are they being micro-targeted?

Is it safe?

Is their own information safe out there?

So we did something to prohibit the state from sharing an individual's personally identifiable information with the federal government, just saying, nope, you can't have it.

It's not safe for people.

Pat Kreitlow

There were some other, well, there were many things that Governor Evers put in the proposed budget and more than 600 of them were removed by Republicans on the Joint Finance Committee.

And so again, there's been legislation introduced by Democrats to essentially put some of those back, pass them a separate legislation if need be.

And that includes some measures on gun safety.

And I was really struck by a quote from your colleague, Senator Latanya Johnson of Milwaukee, who said here in an article from Wisconsin Public Radio,

Year after year, I've watched Republicans cut every single gun safety proposal from the state budget.

And year after year, we see more victims and families burying their babies.

And there is this real world cost of inaction that Senator Johnson is trying to get out there.

And all you can really do is again, hold up for the public, the newest bills that you're introducing and saying, somebody is trying.

Yeah, we are trying.

I mean, we want background checks on every gun sale.

That's important that we know that people who want to own a gun can own a gun, but should they own a gun and background checks will make that be known.

Also a waiting period for the purchase of handguns.

That's extremely important.

We have people all over our state and they're going through maybe a mental health crisis and maybe they buy a gun to maybe harm themselves or others.

And this would just say

We're going to have a waiting period, cooling off period.

Make sure that you're okay to purchase this gun.

And some people might wake up the next morning and decide they're glad they didn't have that gun.

I have a former colleague, Jonathan Brostoff.

He was on the suicide task force.

He spoke about having these mental health challenges and how this would have helped him in his time of need.

Unfortunately, he made a decision to buy a gun and to end his life.

He stood up for this bill, knew what it would mean for Wisconsinites and him, and unfortunately, we did not have this bill in place to save his life.

So that is something that I know we'll be fighting for every single day as we miss our colleague every single day and can only think of what could be and what the city of Milwaukee would be like if he were still in it.

The other one is extreme risk protection orders and a ghost gun bill that's important to me, but every single one of these

we know they would save lives.

And that is why Democrats are fighting for just some common sense gun measures that the state of Wisconsin could have.

Pat Kreitlow

And by the way, you say you want these.

It's not just you.

It's an overwhelming majority of people in Wisconsin in poll after poll after poll, you're talking 70 80% sometimes more for either background checks.

or waiting periods for handguns or red flag laws and I'm sure I haven't seen the polling but I'm sure it'd be the same on on ghost guns as well.

These are supported by such a broad bipartisan group of people across the state and across the country and it is it is really telling when Republican lawmakers in Madison, Washington DC and elsewhere can't seem to muster up the political courage to do something that so many of their constituents want.

Absolutely.

And so many of their constituents want to be safe.

And so many of my constituents want to be safe.

I mean, it's gun violence.

It happens everywhere.

I mean, we had a place in Middleton, a business, that somebody brought a ghost gun in and started shooting.

Now, we're somewhat fortunate, you can say that.

But nobody has been, was injured or killed except for the shooter.

But still, the shooter was killed.

And the police officers that responded that day,

are still, some of them are still suffering from what they saw that day.

Some of them are still not on the job because of what happened.

So it's gun violence affects everybody in our community.

First responders, the people who were there when something terrible happens, kids.

I mean, where is it safe to go where you don't have to worry about getting shot?

I mean, Pat, when you and I were younger, we went to school and we had tornado drills.

They have gun drills now.

Kindergarteners have gun drills to figure out where to go and what to save places and how their teachers can keep them safe.

It

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still breaks my heart to think of my grandkids are doing this in school and it traumatizes them when it happens and yet they have to do it again only for the lack of some courage by lawmakers in positions of power.

and we'll we'll leave it with the other conversation piece and we already we got reaction earlier today from Melissa Baldoff to this as well to the Dan Schaefer column that makes the case that Governor Tony Evers has been a great governor but he you know he should not run for a third term.

There's some folks that are saying well you're just handing the Democrats a gift and others saying yeah we got to have this conversation so you're going to hear the conversation Senator what's what's your quick answer to people speculating on the governor's plans.

Governor Evers has done a great job for the state of Wisconsin, and I know he has made it quite clear that he wants to wait until our budget is over until he makes a decision if he is running again.

And I know he'll make the right decision for himself and for the state of Wisconsin.

Pat Kreitlow

State Senator Diane Husslebein, the Senate Democratic Leader, talking to us from Middleton.

Senator, thank you so much.

Great to catch up with you.

Thank you for the opportunity.

Pat Kreitlow

You've had a wonderful day.

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My sweaters on backwards and inside out and you

say see

Pat Kreitlow

what you did there.

It's great.

I supposed to say how appropriate.

How

appropriate.

Greg Bach's

Pat Kreitlow

been gone a week and has already lost that comedic timing genius that we came to love and miss so well.

But he's back now for a Friday edition of today's history lesson.

Mr. Bach, how are you doing?

Greg Bach

Pat, if I told you one thing, it's one thing only.

It's what it said over and over again.

Comedy is about...

Ah,

Pat Kreitlow

what is what Greg?

What is comedy all about?

Greg Bach

Timing.

OK, good.

God, we got that out

Pat Kreitlow

of the way.

Alanis Morissette released Jagged Little Pill this day in 1995 and would go on to become a juggernaut.

Birthdays today include Tim Allen.

He's 72 years old today and still grouchy.

Ali Sheedy, one of the Brat Pack is 63 today.

I know.

Greg Bach

Yes.

Hannah Storm

Pat Kreitlow

is 63.

Greg Bach

Oh, what did you do?

You unlocked a new level.

Pat Kreitlow

Oh, no.

Greg Bach

So, okay.

Wait, wait, really quick.

Parker, have you heard of the movie, the breakfast club?

Okay.

Yeah.

So I've seen those actors that were some of those actors in that movie were part of a group called the Brat Pack.

They were a group of kids actors from the 80s who were in a bunch of movies together and apart, but they were like all the rage.

Okay.

OK.

Ask your

Greg Bach

pee-paw.

Pat Kreitlow

My

pee-paw is all about it, I'm sure.

Pat Kreitlow

There was a documentary about it last year, in the past year.

That was quite good.

You thought

Greg Bach

it

Pat Kreitlow

was good?

OK.

I did.

I thought

Greg Bach

it was

Pat Kreitlow

OK.

All right.

We're going

Greg Bach

to disagree on

Pat Kreitlow

that one.

All right.

Let's see.

Other birthdays, they include the late, great Bobby Freeman.

You don't hear enough boggles of music today.

You really

Kathryn Lake

don't.

Pat Kreitlow

This was Bobby Freeman's 1958 hit.

He passed away in 2017.

It was on this day in 1966, the U.S.

Supreme Court ruled in Miranda v. Arizona that police must inform suspects of their Fifth Amendment rights before questioning them.

You have the right to remain silent.

That started this day in 1966.

In 1967, President Lyndon Johnson nominated Solicitor General Thurgood Marshall to become the first black justice on the U.S.

Supreme Court.

Happy birthday to Rivers Cuomo.

He's 55 years old today.

Who is Rivers Cuomo, you ask?

Listen to this and see if it helps out at all.

So Rivers Cuomo of Weezer, which still doesn't help me, but I know it helps other people.

He's 55 years old today.

Dad, he's like a few years younger than you.

Don't act like he's in some new rock band.

Like, isn't Weezer?

How long has Weezer

Greg Bach

been around?

Pat Kreitlow

Weezer's been around for like 30 years.

You don't know.

I'm watching the reruns of the Lawrence Welk show over

Greg Bach

here.

Oh,

Pat Kreitlow

what?

I think you just

Greg Bach

want

Pat Kreitlow

to be old.

He's

Greg Bach

an old soul, that's for

Pat Kreitlow

sure.

I have been old for a very long time.

The, uh, the, I want to say the original Captain America, Chris Evans is 44, is original, the right, well, for that Marvel universe.

Yes,

Chris Evans is

Pat Kreitlow

44.

The Olsen twins, Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen, 39 years old today.

That's going to make a lot of people feel old next year when they turn 40.

And, uh, this week in 1988, Paula Abdul released her debut album.

Here's the title track.

Sang it, Greg.

Yeah.

The thing is, again, if you don't use it, you lose it.

And we're talking about exercise, physical fitness, all that.

All of Duel never stopped dancing.

Can still dance as good as she did back then.

And she does commercials to prove it.

And Nancy says on YouTube, we use her popular in the 80s.

Tony's like,

For me, I think the 1880s.

Is that what I would relate to?

Greg Bach

Y'all know that 30 years ago was like the mid 90s.

Pat Kreitlow

I was going to say, well, that's Alanis Morissette.

We started with Jagged Little Pill.

That was 30 years ago today.

Yeah.

30 years ago today, the Jagged Little Pill was released, which is why Nancy on YouTube was like, Alishini is 63?

No.

Oh, yes, it's true.

Today is International Axe Throwing Day.

So watch out, everybody.

Yeah, don't have a bad day at work.

I really want to make sure we put some guardrails on that one.

Greg Bach

It's also regional duck day.

Regional duck day.

Not quack, quack.

Get down.

Get down.

Pat Kreitlow

This is World Softball Day, and this is National Sewing Machine Day.

Now I'm old enough that we had to take home economics courses and that included sewing classes.

So we

Pat Kreitlow

actually, I, I, I made like a little backpack kind of thing.

Uh, did either of you have to do sewing classes or ever touch a sewing machine?

It was part of like a whole night

class.

Yeah.

Greg Bach

We, we didn't have home back in my high school, um, and teach that stuff.

I wish I would.

Oh, it's not too late.

I'd like to learn.

I use a sewing machine.

I think it's just a.

Those are valuable skills to have like sewing and just like even just putting on buttons and whatnot.

I think that's a good thing to know.

That's

Pat Kreitlow

actually, I talked to my mom yesterday and she actually said she's doing that this weekend.

She called up a couple of her granddaughters and said, I don't know what's taking me so long, but you get over here, I'm going to teach you how to sew.

And those, those nieces of mine were very happy to be invited.

And like you said, these are skills they're going to take with them.

Greg Bach

Yeah, absolutely.

Pat Kreitlow

Sherry's the same.

Well, though, in her case, it's from sewing people up after surgery.

But it

Greg Bach

really helps when

Pat Kreitlow

we're putting buttons on.

These buttons do not come

Greg Bach

off.

Dr. Kratlow, you can't put buttons on the suture.

You can't put no.

Yes, it looks wonderful.

The colors go, but you can't do that.

Pat Kreitlow

No, you can't.

You can't solve a C-section with snaps or buttons.

Greg Bach

No Velcro.

No,

Pat Kreitlow

none of that, please.

Oh, boy.

Mr. Bach, before you go, anything fun for the weekend here?

Greg Bach

the final weekend of the laughing tap or this location, two more shows, then there's an open mic on Wednesday and then that location closes and we'll be announcing the new one hopefully in the next couple of weeks.

But, um, yeah, it's, that's going to be, and then I'm going to be producing, I'll be producing, uh, amicus tomorrow with Jim Santel.

So that's always going to be fun.

And we have Dan Schaefer today on Matt and air on air.

We're going to be talking about, Oh, an article he put out this week.

That's getting a lot of attention.

I haven't heard of it.

Tiny article.

Exactly.

Pat Kreitlow

Uh, thank you, Greg.

Have a great week.

Greg Bach

Thank you for having me.

See you guys.

Alright, a

Pat Kreitlow

couple more hours to go including our week in review panel coming up right after the 7 o'clock news on a Friday morning powered by Up North News on the Civic Media Radio

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