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Good morning, welcome back.
It is 8.06 now on this Friday the 13th, Friday the 13th of June, 2025.
Pillscourt judge Chris Taylor is standing by.
We'll talk about her campaign for a seat on the Wisconsin Supreme Court coming up in just a bit.
Dr. Kristen Lyrely will be along for that as well.
Mike Clemens will give us an update on all kinds of sports heading into the weekend.
But let's get all of it started first with an updated forecast from meteorologist Brittany Merleau and that that River O'Rean that is just going to keep pouring over us throughout the course of the foreseeable future, I guess, Brittany.
Yeah, sure will.
Unfortunately, at least the next 24 hours, probably through a good chunk of this weekend, especially up north, north woods, we're getting hit right now from Eau Claire to Wasa to Rhinelander, a lot of the places seeing anywhere from a half an inch to an inch and a half of rainfall already.
We've got another inch or two left to go.
So we are in a marginal risk for excessive rainfall, which of course could create some flooding as we go into the weekend.
It is cloudy for much of the state up north of some spots of sunshine still hanging on far southwest.
And we are going to be looking at that rain just soaking north of I-29 throughout most of the day into tomorrow.
It starts to wind down a little bit on Sunday, but we do have another round that wants to push through once again late at night, some showers and thunderstorms.
But in terms of temperatures today, we'll hit the mid 50s far north.
mid seventies far south.
Tomorrow is that spotty lane wearing lingers, especially far northeast.
We are looking at highs in the sixties there.
80 degrees far south.
And then Sunday, a lot of the state stays dry until late at night.
We're looking at 70s out there.
So a decent weekend, but a lot of rain splashed in there, unfortunately.
Yeah, so get get the mower out next week.
Be prepared.
You might have two days coming
up the way things
are going to grow there.
On Facebook from Greg and Waukesha.
Good morning to Parker.
Parker, because I am totally blind, what color shirt are you wearing today?
This, of course, would have something to do with his very pink shirt.
yesterday, is that a Madison Mallards shirt by
was wondering what that was.
Yeah.
And there are different
Well,
you know,
it's no hodag, but it'll do.
It'll get the job done.
All right.
That's hysterical.
Now we know.
Thank you, Brittany.
Have a great weekend.
You too.
All right.
It is eight oh nine right now.
And let's see.
I had one note on the text line from our last segment.
We were talking about ABC's Terry Moran and parting ways after a Trump remark from Stephen Milwaukee.
Thank you, Pat, for talking about the Terry Moran story.
Too much pressure is being put on these news outlets by the Orange.
No, I shouldn't say that we're done on the radio.
We already have too much sanewashing as it is.
So thank you, Steve, for the comment on there.
Dr. Kristen Lyrely joins us just ahead of Judge Chris Taylor.
How are you today, Dr. Lyrely?
You know, live in a dream.
Getting set for the Dr. Kristen Lyrely show on tomorrow.
Yes, I talked with Pete Schwabba.
I thought maybe we needed a little oasis of entertainment in the midst of all of the craziness.
So Pete and I just chat about entertainment in his career and how a kid from Marinette, Wisconsin could make it in the big time and keep doing it, keep uplifting people with entertainment and music and love.
That's great.
And then you, of course, like my wife are OBGYNs.
And so you both get daily newsletters from the American College of Obstetrics and Guides.
ecology.
This was a shocker pack.
Thank you for sharing the headline in today's daily newsletter.
You want to read that headline to us, please?
Yes.
New mothers experience significant loss of uninterrupted sleep through week 13 postpartum study finds.
Study finds.
That's
the latest from the medical journal, Duh.
Stay tuned for their sunrises in the east.
But yeah, I suppose that that checks out.
Let's bring in Judge Chris Taylor herself with, can also testify to the lack of sleep that comes with parenthood.
Judge Taylor, good morning.
Good morning.
I would say it extends to year 18.
Amen, sister.
Yes.
Oh, yes.
It says Dr. Lirely with her four boys.
Rob from Tigerton putting on YouTube.
Kristen has a really great radio show.
Oh, thanks, Rob.
That's why we gave
her
one here.
And I asked Kristen if she wouldn't mind sharing her block with Judge Taylor.
And you were quick to say yes because of the importance of this Supreme Court race next year and the thing that ties you both and that
is that support for women's health care rights?
Right, Kristen?
We're going
back.
Yes.
OK.
So well, Judge, let's start there.
Judge Chris Taylor served in the assembly.
I was serving in the state senate.
She's had a lot of work before and since then.
She's also got a dog unless Kristen's got one in the hotel over there And I quickly add we are extremely pet friendly on that we encourage pet stirring interviews so with that Judge Taylor let's turn it over to you to Talk just very briefly about why you made the decision.
You could have stayed cozy there on that state court of appeals Why run for a spot on the state Supreme Court next year?
Well, first of all, thanks so much for having me.
It's such a pleasure to be here.
This is one of my favorite things to do, talk to you all and hear from people all over our state.
But I am running, look, I've had a 30 year legal career as a private practitioner.
I was the law and policy director for Planned Parenthood, went on to the state legislature and now I've been a judge for the last five years.
And my passion, my commitment throughout my career has been
to protecting people's constitutional rights and making sure that they have access to justice.
Courts have to be a place where Wisconsinites can count on their rights and freedoms being protected, being respected, and that has been my commitment throughout my entire career.
It's critical that
courts remain fair and independent.
And the independence of the judiciary, I think, has really come into play as we've seen attacks on judges.
And so that's why I'm running.
And I'm running against somebody who really has spent her time and her legal career not protecting rights, but taking rights away.
And I think that is the antithesis of what courts do.
This is Justice Rebecca Bradley, who I'm running against.
She's really spent her career and certainly her
time on the Wisconsin Supreme Court pursuing a very extreme right-wing agenda to hear cases that could gut our election.
She's voted to hear the Trump lawsuit back to overturn the 2020 election.
Certainly is very hostile to respecting women's constitutional rights and their rights to make their own personal private health care decisions and also has been very much antagonistic towards fair maps and letting voters pick their
elected representatives instead of the other way around.
I would again add that I've said many a time that it feels like her entire career, not just since her first appointment to the bench by Scott Walker, but dating well back before then, has felt like an ongoing audition for a show on Fox News or one of these other places.
Her record is extremely well documented.
So is yours.
The work that you've done and what I've noticed, what I'm already noticing in this race, just like the last couple of races, is that, yeah, you have a record of employment or other actions that you've done, but it is, talk about the importance of being upfront with your values as much as it is about your particular experience.
voters are placing an extraordinary amount of trust in the people that they elect to our highest court which is just going to become more and more important as I think we see things unfold at the federal level but my values
you know, are upfront and on display.
And my passion, my values are about making sure the people of the state of Wisconsin are treated fairly and with respect and have access to the judiciary, that their rights are respected, not taken away, and that they have a chance to get fairness in an impartial, independent way.
You know, my values are reflected in the things that I worked on when I was in
legislature from protecting access to abortion and reproductive health care to making sure our water was safe, addressing lead poisoning in children, which we had a real problem with when I was in the legislature and persist to this day, and also making sure that workers are treated fairly and get an actual slice of the pie that they make and not just crumbs.
So those are my values.
I think they're reflective of Wisconsin value.
And I am very proud of the things I've worked on.
I'm not shying away from them.
Of course, as a judge, I'm not a policymaker.
I interpret the law.
I apply the law.
But my eye is always towards justice.
That is the point of having a judiciary.
You're not a policymaker now, but you have been in the past, and that, I think, separates you from the last two Supreme Court now justices, Janet Protasewicz and Susan Crawford, who don't have a history of having participated in the legislature.
How will that affect your campaign and the way that you rule from the bench?
Well,
look, I think that being a legislator makes me a better judge, and it has made me
a better judge.
And one reason why is because I saw so directly as a legislator how the law impacts people's lives.
I had constituents coming to my office talking to me on a daily basis about laws they wanted to see, things they needed.
I had victims of sexual assault come to me and tell me I need to be able to protect my
address from my abuser.
So I worked on a bipartisan bill called the safe at home bill, which allowed victims of domestic violence and sexual assault to not disclose their addresses so their abusers couldn't find them.
So I understand in my experience being a legislator really underscored the law is about people.
People have to be the center of what we do in the judiciary.
It's not about making sure the big money special interests have their way, which is
what we saw the attempt of a billionaire to buy the last Supreme Court seat.
It's not about that.
This is about ordinary, everyday Wisconsinites making sure our courts are there to protect them, to listen to them and to give justice to them.
So being a legislator has made me a better judge, no doubt about that.
I've got under a minute here to before the break here.
So let me ask just the very brief biographical info that people might want to know about you, your family, your education, any background like that?
Sure.
Well, I've lived in
Wisconsin my entire adult life.
My family is very strong roots to Wisconsin going back to the 1850s but I came back to Wisconsin for law school almost yeah 35 years ago and have really been influenced in my life by my grandmother who was left to really support three kids on her own had to go back to work.
couldn't survive until she got a union job and made a fair wage and sent my mom and her two brothers to college and they all became teachers.
So I've been very much impacted.
She also was a woman of deep faith and she taught me that your life is about doing good for people.
That's why you're put on this earth.
She exemplified that every Sunday after church.
She would go visit her friends who were in nursing homes, knitting blankets for the hospital.
Sometimes, you know, dragging my sister and I with her, we weren't as enthusiastic about that.
But those values have just, you know, they just center me.
It's who I am.
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Let's continue our conversation now with State Supreme Court Candidate Appeals Court Judge Chris Taylor.
Dr. Kristen Lyrely is here with us as well and let me start first by saying
that this election, April of next year, would have a primary in February of next year if there are more than two candidates for the race.
Now, assuming Justice Rebecca Bradley wants to run for another 10-year term, if somebody else gets in the race, as well as Judge Taylor here, there'd be a primary for the three or more candidates that get in.
The top two vote-getters would then move on to the April general election.
I say all that by way of background because
I don't know whether there will be other candidates given the endorsements, Judge Taylor, that you have collected already, starting with a few people with the word justice before their name.
Well, I'm really honored to have the endorsement of Justices, Dalit, Koroski, Provisay, which and Justice elect Susan Crawford.
It shows that they have confidence that I'm going to be the kind of justice that the people in Wisconsin really deserve and put them and their rights first and foremost and also.
of protecting our democracy, first and foremost, and the independence of the judiciary.
So I have known each of those justices in different capacities.
They know how hard I work.
They know how much I care about people.
They know my commitment to justice.
In fact, Justice Elect Crawford and I were next door neighbors when I was on the circuit court.
So we work together a lot.
And she was one of the people who I would go and chat with about different legal issues.
would collaborate a lot.
And that's one thing I just love about the appellate court, is you get to collaborate your writing decisions together.
And you get to hear what other people think, what other justices are thinking about an issue.
So you get a better product when you do that, but you have to be willing to collaborate.
And I think that's another area where I'm so different than Justice Rebecca Bradley, who just not seem interested in collaborating with people who do not think exactly like she
as she indicated the night of justice elect Crawford's election.
Let's talk about abortion.
Because you have a strong relationship in the past with Planned Parenthood, of course.
You've served in the assembly.
This is an issue that is very important to you.
In past Supreme Court races, it has been a firebrand issue.
It's been something that the other side has used it to, um, against in many ways against the candidates, especially Proto-Sawits and Crawford.
How will that play out in your campaign, given that you have been so forward with this issue throughout your career?
It's, you know, this is one of my values.
I value women and individuals' ability to make their own personal, private health care decisions.
I have gone through two pregnancies.
I have birthed two children.
And what I've been through and my experiences in the medical care that I needed, both to get pregnant, to stay pregnant, and then to have healthy pregnancies and birth, is really nobody's business, quite frankly.
my relationship with my doctor, that's important.
It's being able to access the health care that I needed to, and I had a very high risk pregnancy, one of my last pregnancy with my younger son.
So it is just no one's business.
It is my, the decisions that I make with my husband, with my family, with my doctor, how can, you know, it's just kind of mind boggling to me that we think,
Politicians are better positioned to make these decisions.
So that is my value though.
I value those things And that is those are the values that I bring to this race
and let's let's not sugarcoat this Rebecca Bradley is a tenacious campaigner.
She's going to have the entire Republican apparatus behind her so I mean
Your record as a legislator on things like voter ID and act 10 and all of that are gonna be essentially fair game But so is everything that she has ever written about and as we've noted she's done a lot of writing of opinions and and so
How am I how am I trying to say this?
I'm trying to say it's probably gonna be a fair fight You know if the election turns out this way of two people who are capable communicators capable of conveying values and so where do you get the edge Judge Taylor in talking to that moderate voter that swing voter however you want to put it
well look I think most Wisconsinites don't want a politician in the in their healthcare examination rooms so I
I don't think that my values are reflective.
When Rebecca Bradley was writing about opposing abortion, that abortion should be illegal, I was out in college volunteering for Planned Parenthood to try to keep
that clinic open in my college town so women could access health care.
You know, when she was writing that pharmacist should be able to refuse birth control prescriptions, I was working at Plain Parenthood
on a bill called the Prescription Protection Act to make sure no woman was left at the pharmacy counter without having her birth control prescription filled.
So this is a stark contrast between us, but I think my values are more reflective of the vast majority of Wisconsinites.
I don't think Wisconsinites want the politicians to be making these decisions for them.
It impacts every
every aspect of a woman's life when these decisions are taken away.
For more information, you can head over to chrisforjustice.com.
Judge Chris Taylor, thank you very much for your time, Dr. Kristen Lyrely.
Thank you
for joining us for the segment.
Appreciate
seeing both of you.
It's always a blast.
Great to see you, Chris.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Judge.
And Kristen, we'll see you Monday morning, I believe.
All right, have
a wonderful
weekend.
Yes, sir.
Mike Clemens, coming up next, tell us about sports right after this.
You're up north.
Mike Clemens is standing by all kinds of Wisconsin sports to get to in just a second.
But first I have to subject Parker and Dr. Lerly here to my love of playoff hockey.
So there we are in the Stanley Cup Finals.
It was game four and Florida was up three nothing in Florida after the first period.
And of course Pat went to bed because Pat's got to get up early.
So here's what happened since then Edmonton came all the way back tied it then went ahead for three then with 20 seconds left.
Florida ties the game 4-4.
The crowd goes wild in Miami.
We go off to overtime.
Edmonton scores an overtime.
Wins the game 5-4.
The series is tied two games apiece.
Game 5 is tomorrow night in Edmonton.
There will be a game 6 Tuesday in Florida.
If necessary, game 7 will be next Friday in Edmonton.
And Parker and Kristen don't look nearly as excited as I do in telling you about that.
I
it.
I stayed
it.
I'm in the hockey central.
That's true.
You are.
You're up under range.
I am.
I
can almost see the back of your hair growing as you're talking about.
Sorry.
I have good flow.
I understand.
All right.
Having got that out of the way, let's get more Wisconsin centric here and bring Mike Clemens into the mix.
Mike, how are you?
Very good, Dr. Oiley.
I really enjoy it.
I've heard your show several times in the weekends.
Great information, particularly changes that
going on with some of the federal cuts and all that and how that affects you physicians and all that's really good information.
So how is everybody?
Well,
Kristen's a lot better now.
Thank you, Mike.
Mike, the range of emotions.
First, I'm watching Florida go down 3-0.
I'm watching Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey cheering for Florida in the crowd, which was kind of depressing.
And meanwhile, on my TV,
or on my phone, rather, I'm watching the baseball game.
And I'm getting so excited about this new pitcher, Jacob Mizorowski, 23 years old.
He's pitching up to 102 miles an hour.
He's pitching no hits in the first, second, third, fourth, five innings of no hit ball.
A no hitter.
A no hitter.
Into the sixth inning, and he rolls his ankle, has some cramps, leaves, and it was all I could do not to cry.
It was so bright.
But you're here to tell us it doesn't seem to be serious.
Yeah, you and Pat Murphy both, you know, just like this girl.
It's like, why can't we have nothing nice here?
Jacob Mizorowski, 23 years old.
He threw on 103 miles an hour.
The fastest since they've been keeping that particular kind of stand the way they measure it.
He had 14 pitches over 100 miles an hour last night, Pat.
That's
amazing.
Amazing.
Moaning these guys down, comfortable, six foot seven.
It kind of looks like a giraffe out there in the mountain.
And you're right.
So they set it back out there in six.
He's got a no hitter going.
Family's up there in the stands.
And the right foot comes forward and goes wobbles like, oh, oh, what the hell was that?
And he said, cramps, dehydrated, maybe nerves, who knows, in the calf and also in the quad.
and you know the trainer came running out there right away because that just didn't look right and mercy you know sit him down was fine hey we got five innings out of him where to go kid you know go in there and uh... and they went on to win six to nothing last night beat the cardinals carlos are in second place behind the cubs brewers and in third in their division right now and you know it afterwards a kid who's you know it's twenty three going on thirty very mature talk to reporters said yeah it's just some crap you know should be okay so they've got that but
Again, can't have nothing nice because Aaron Cevelle, who had recently come back from injury, but they picked up, you know, as a veteran for the rotation about a year ago, when Murph informs him, okay, hey, listen, we're gonna move you to the bullpen now.
He's like, no, you're not.
No, I'm not a bullpen guy.
Never have been, not going, not going to be, calls his agent.
And then, you know, he's stand up.
He talked to reporters before last night's game.
And said, I know this is going to look disingenuous or like I'm an antagonist or something.
But my wife and I have enjoyed our year here in Milwaukee.
I'm not a bullpen guy.
I'm not going to the bullpen.
And I've called my agent.
And whether I'm a starter here or somewhere else, but we're asking for a trade.
So they got that drama going on.
In the meantime, the next game of this four game Cardinals Brewer series is tonight.
7-10 at Ampham Field.
That's right.
6-35 the pregame on several civic media stations.
The NBA finals continue in Indianapolis.
How surprised are you that the Paces are up two games to one over Oklahoma City?
I don't know because of the way they mowed down the bucks, the calves, and the nicks, you know?
And the kid from Wisconsin, Tyrese Halliburton out of Oshkosh North High School, led his high school team to the state championship.
uh... in wisconsin i think it was back in twenty eighteen and they won at eight you know average numbers like that they're the night he had twenty two points i think it was ten assist nine rebounds i think he just turns it on the last five minutes and just close as a deal on these games to take uh... indy and taking advantage of playing in indianapolis these games they're both two games to one or the okc thunder that thunder by the way uh... they've never wanted uh... you really sorry bintons two thousand eight
since the Super Sonics moved to.
I was going to say I still think of him as Seattle's team.
Yeah.
But it's been that long already.
I
remember that the Super Sonics did win an NBA title in 79.
And
then a couple of years later, I got my start.
Matter of fact, a guy that went to my high school, Bill Hanslick, got into the NBA.
And I got in the locker room to see him.
And so they were a really good franchise back then.
He played in the NBA for 15 years.
But yeah, you know, listen, the Pacers
are playing through.
You know what, at the end of the day, Pat, when you're in these championships, it's coaching.
It's Rick Carlisle.
You know, the way he's rotating these guys, it's coaching.
It is.
And the kid, Tyrese Halliburton, he sounded real humble in the eclipses I heard this week.
He knows to step up in the moment.
He gave great credit to his coach at Oshkosh North.
And so this guy's been seen as kind of a villain for some.
A lot of Bucks fans didn't like something about him.
But I tell you, listening to him, you can understand why a lot of folks around Oshkosh are rooting for the Pacers.
Oh, yeah.
because they could actually win their first NBA title like that in the Hoosier State.
Crazy.
So he's 25 years old, point guard, and he could be the next rock star of the NBA.
What did the Wisconsin Badgers allegedly do here for their first NCAA fine for recruiting violations in a long time?
Yeah, this broke yesterday afternoon.
I think McIntosh, the athletic director, released this to certain sources.
you know we're in this NIL era in college sports where there's like no rules it's like the wild wild west they're making it up as they go they're paying millions of dollars now to college athletes apparently the NCAA has fined the Wisconsin Badgers football team and man this is another strike against Luke Fickle for violating recruiting violations this happened two years ago in 2023 apparently what happened is that the Badgers football program started making their calls to prospective players
before the start date, you know, there's rules when you start making those contacts to the high school kids.
And they made over 100 calls.
They were probably all logged, but later an investigation showed that.
So the Badgers have been fine.
I don't know if the figures actually have been disclosed.
They're under some probation.
And since that rule has been changed, but whatever, like I say, it's another strike during the Lucvical era.
Yeah, I mean, again,
No pressure, but if if the team underperforms this season it I know he got an extension and everything But he's he's not winning any popularity contests yet here in Wisconsin No, no,
no in an ever more, you know competitive big 10.
Yeah, let's talk about Packers mini camp including a very noteworthy departure
Yeah, Jay Alexander the Packers ended up releasing him.
So the timeline to this thing was And there's some people that are disputing but the athletic did some excellent reporting look they got to the end of the season and Brian Goodigan sits down with Russ Ball his director of finance and they say, you know, okay, look this guy is supposed to be one of the highest paid corners up to 17 million this year He's missed, you know over half the games the last two years three of the last four.
We're not paying that this year
We're not.
So we're going to be at telling them we want them to take a haircut or we're going to move on.
And Jair's agent said, no, you're not.
We're under contract.
We've got a great player here.
You know that.
And so it just sat there.
It wasn't contentious.
And Goodykins came to us at practice on Tuesday morning after they'd released them and said, hey, guys, come on over here.
Let's talk.
so we went into a little garage and talk to him for about six or seven minutes and he said yeah it was it it's not like it's been a day-to-day drama the last three months it's you know we we said our number our walk away number uh... they had their stance and he said you know what i we talked to jay i met with jay ryan person on sunday when he came into camp reported so you know it it it's like the two sides are talking but jay is like okay fine and then they're released me and he's confident his agent will find him
uh... another spot in the nfl and be able to get the money that he feels he deserves and they turn the page and move on so uh... uh... the other thing about you know many camp it and of course the packers you know packed a parachute for this one they picked up a veteran eight hops out of uh... the raiders that got kishan nixon move in the corner they brought in mccole hardman who'd won three super bowl rings with the kentucky cheese and he's gonna be their kick and punt return at least uh... that's what the feeling is right now
but you know when larry the voice of the packers would stand next to the sidelines the other day says do
you
think number six you know hardman is can actually make the team as a receiver here because they're so deep at receiver now and just as he said that journal of lines up eleven all on eleven drops back to pass and wings one sixty yards in the air bango and he hit mccall hardman the former chief
in stride for like a 70-yard touchdown pass.
And I said, I think so.
I think he's going to make the team.
I think so.
Nice timing there.
And then speaking of Jordan Love, let's talk about love and marriage.
Jordan Love and Aaron Rodgers' marriage, not to each other separately, but Jordan Love's got one coming up.
Yeah, all we know about Aaron is he's got a ring on his finger.
I think somebody in the paparazzi's has tracked it down.
But Jordan, during the Super Bowl, we saw him down in New Orleans during the Super Bowl.
He's doing some appearances.
And he said, yeah, Ronna and I said they'd got engaged last year in Italy.
So I
asked them.
They brought him back in the other day.
And so they said questions.
Everyone's looking.
And they said, Mike, you asked the first question.
I said, when's the wedding?
He laughed.
He said, it's actually coming up.
And so we get down with these in a couple of weeks.
And they're going to have the In-N-Out Burger Truck at his wedding.
So yeah, he and Ron are going to get it.
The big story that I think that's so cool, right?
Yes.
The big story, though, that you're going to see from the Green Bay is the transition.
Mark Murphy, after 17 years, is stepping down as Packers' President and CEO.
And we're going to, I've been invited now.
This is pretty cool to a meeting with Ed Policy next week.
He's been here 12 years, but he's taken over the summer at the shareholders meeting on the 25th of July.
So it's regime change, you know, a new era on top.
And you know what?
So it reminded me, Pat, remember when Bob Harlan
said it let you know i hate to do this but we've got to move on we've got to keep up with the other teams and that he lobbied and got the atrium built but they had to tear down that old office building was the north end the lambo field the office were lombardi was were homegrown was and just before they tore it down mike sherman who become a packer historian head coach at the time like this around two thousand said well wait i want you guys to save this door
When you move the head coach's office now up to the atrium, I want the Lombardi office door in that office.
So I thought that was such a cool move.
And now that that's already been 25 years ago, two years ago, or a year ago, they moved a build a whole new football operations thing where they got good against LaFleur, all of his coaching staff and the players locker room over there.
And they've got this locker room renovation going on.
So there's more construction going on.
And I said, oh, oh, I wonder when they moved the LaFleur office,
about a year ago, if they remember to save that door, and the facilities guy came over and told me, he's got the Lombardi door.
I thought
that was it.
OK.
OK.
It's not in a dumpster someplace.
Mike Clemens.
It's grown up by remodeling guys, yeah.
No, it's prone to happening.
Mike Clemens, thank you so much.
Have a great weekend.
Everybody have a great weekend.
Thank you, Pat.
All right.
Thank you too.
Hey, a local update is next for many of you.
Others will stick around here with me and Kristen Lylely for a final few minutes before we get the weekend started again Monday.
Jeff Mandel from Law Forward and author Laura Bird.
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Next week on Tuesday, we'll have Hans Bright and Moser in and I'm sure we will be asking about whether President Trump has flip-flopped.
on deportations or not after his tweet yesterday, seeming to indicate that he didn't mean for farmers to be hurt by all the roundup of the migrant workers.
That was such a weird message because
he acknowledged it.
Farmers and hospitality.
Right.
He said something's going to change.
Well, but first he said, I'm hearing that people are hurting.
And then he said, like, I know they're hurting, but he essentially said this still has to happen.
There was no clarity there, shall we say.
I guess
we should be used to that by now.
Can I just make a comment about Mike Clemens?
Yes, by all means.
Mike Clemens sports reports, they bring the history, they bring the love, they bring the drama.
It's so much more than scores.
Yeah, Tony on YouTube, Mike is great as always.
Yeah, I was listening.
I was like, I want to be part of that.
Oh my gosh, I can't wait to hear more.
Like he's got he's got a rundown.
He's like, here's the things I got and he's got a clock in front of him and he'll just take that right to the post and we are good to go.
On Monday, I mentioned Jeff Mandel will be here from law forward to talk a bit more about billionaire bribery at election time.
And author Laura Bird will be here talking about memoirs and the difference between memoirs versus an auto
biography, which encompasses your whole life, or as a memoir might just tell the story of a particular part of your life and some memoirs that she would recommend putting on your reading list.
Dr. Lirely, have you ever given thought of writing a memoir?
That's the question I was going to ask you.
I
got there first.
I'm the host.
So you go.
I'm in the soup right now, Pat.
I don't have time to think retrospectively.
I'm moving forward.
Okay.
So no, not really.
Is it something you'd consider doing as a retirement
thing?
Oh, that's a good question.
I don't know.
Maybe if I get to that point where I think my life was really all that interesting and people would like to hear it.
Oh, your life is all that interesting.
Oh, my, every time I was, you know, when I met this guy from the BBC who said, here, come shake hands with the queen.
Can I tell you the weird thing that happened to me last week?
Of course you can.
I
got invited to this meeting, a zoom with Senator Elizabeth Warren.
And I'm thinking this is going to be one of those zooms where there's like a lot of information and we're all blacked out and Senator Warren pops in and she says, hi, thanks.
for showing up and then they just give us a bunch of information.
No, that's not what happened.
Senator Warren shows up, says hi to the 20 of us who are on the meeting, and starts taking questions from us.
I don't know how I get into this meeting, but I liked it.
Oh, yeah, I mean that that would be fantastic.
So
yeah, we talked about the big beautiful bill.
We talked about how it is.
It's
so bad for role.
It's
so bad for rural hospitals.
It's so bad for folks who live in rural areas.
And she said only one in four people they have polling that shows only one in four people in this country really know what's going on with this bill and really stress the importance of having these conversations about
I mean, we heard it from Judge Taylor.
Your values, what's important to you?
How can we stand up and fight for each other?
It's not political.
It's not what team you're on.
It's about being able to pay your bills and get health care and have a house to live in and afford food.
It
is.
It's about values.
It's about the kitchen table.
And it's about not.
division, which is all you really have from the right wing now is dividing people in so many different ways.
So are you, you're, you're going to be up north all weekend.
So you won't be at the state democratic convention.
No, and I won't be there either.
And I also know a lot of folks are going to be at the State Democratic Convention who wish they weren't because of the bad timing.
They all like to be at the No Kings rallies that are going to be happening all over the place.
Yes, I think they're doing some sort of No Kings thing at the convention.
Oh, I'm sure they are.
These rallies are everywhere.
I'm going to be in Chisholm, Minnesota, home of Moonlight Graham from Field of Dreams.
We're going to gather around the Iron Man, but there are going to be some other events up on the Iron Range here.
And this is like far northern Minnesota.
I mean, there aren't a lot of people here, but we're going to be out here standing up.
I know in eastern Wisconsin, all across the Lakeshore, from Sturgeon Bay, Algoma, Manitowoc, I think Kiwani even, there are rallies all across the state, all across the country.
This is about getting together with your neighbors, standing up, using your voices, being peaceful and celebrating community.
You know, I'm visiting friends this weekend.
And we might just have to go for a drive and see if there's a rally in Regina, Saskatchewan.
There sure could be.
There will be some outside the borders, believe me.
But I will also be intrigued to hear from Dan Schaefer and others.
We've certainly heard a lot of reaction to his column about whether Governor Evers should run for a third term or not and what will be the result of the state chairs race.
Because again, we've got three candidates who are going to be running there.
So it's fun.
because it's an off year, but we're not going to lack for discussion topics next
week.
I know.
Bring the drama.
And it's fun and it's meaningful and it's helping.
I mean, to me, that's what it's all about.
That's why I'm not thinking memoirs right now and I'm thinking action because there's so much that needs to be done and people want to be part of it.
It's just a matter of figuring out where you fit in.
Yeah, and and unfortunately, it's always kind of these down times that attract new people into politics.
There are all kinds of people who joined because of the Iraq war back in, you know, 2004, five, six area.
People who got involved during the first Trump term and now people who are getting involved in this day and age because again, much like you once upon a time, they said, I can't just stay in my comfort zone.
I have to put my voice out there.
I have to put my values out there.
So are you working on your memoirs?
Perpetually.
I mean, there's so much up here.
And we're
not just talking about his hair, friends.
No,
but that's...
So many stories and I always get the block of am I writing a memoir or am I writing like a TV script?
Am I writing like a WKRP type of thing with all my TV years and then you put some some of the political stories in there?
Nobody wants just a rundown, you know, nobody wants just a bulleted list.
They want like the color.
Yes, exactly.
Have a great time up there and we'll see you Monday morning at 6 30.
Sounds good.
Safe travels.
All right.
Thank you so much.
Parker, thank you.
Have fun at the Mallards games.
Stay dry.
I can only hope, Pat.
We can only hope for you as well.
All right, we'll see you on Monday.
Thanks to today's guests, Judge Chris Taylor, Kristen Lyrely, Jennifer Schulze, Mark Jacob, Jim Santel, Mike Clemens, and all of you for being here today as well.
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