California Collision Course (Hour 1)

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California Collision Course (Hour 1)

Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Mon Jun 9, 2025

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Pat Criteau

Well, hey there, Wisconsin.

Good morning.

It is 6.06 on this Monday morning, June 9th, 2025.

It's another beautiful morning to have here up north, despite the rain.

Live from Lake WSOTA, from wherever you're spending your mornings, listening across the Civic Media Radio Network.

Listening to us on the app watching us on YouTube or Facebook or catching us later by podcast Thanks for starting your day and your week right here.

I got a question for you Was it a good weekend?

Was it a productive weekend?

Or is it one of those rare times where the weekend just didn't

go quite right and you're actually like, okay, let's start over again.

It's Monday.

Get a new routine going.

However it was, it's nice to have you along here.

We've got a busy show today.

We've got a lot of folks we're going to be stopping in at one point or another to talk about a host of different topics.

We will, of course, update the intentional conflict being set up in California by President Trump over immigration arrests coming increasingly closer to

the martial law police state situation of his own making, you know, the thing that authoritarians do best.

Also, Dr. Kristen Lierly will be here.

It is men's health week, so we'll talk about how we guys can take better care of ourselves.

But we've also got a story about women's health and the terrible track record on women's health in so-called pro-life states.

In our second hour, we'll visit with Up North News reporter Selina Heller.

We'll get a check on weekend sports with Jimmy Koska.

And we'll visit with State Senator Chris Larson talking about how Democrats in the legislature have introduced several new packages of bills.

There's one about gun safety.

There's one meant to affirm the rights of people in the LGBTQ community.

Another designed to help defend the state against some of those Trump policies that can hurt residents and the economy.

In our third hour, we'll talk to somebody with the Building Trades Council about the ongoing popularity of apprenticeships in the construction trades and how the state legislature can continue providing the kind of support that addresses the state's labor shortage.

And then we'll have Jane Andorra-Greg in, Jane McNair, Greg Bach to preview their show that comes up right after this one starting at nine o'clock all across the Civic Media Radio Network on this rainy Monday.

As things get going here, I know that we will eventually get a full check on the weather.

Hopefully we'll get Brittany Merlot in here to tell us much more.

I can tell you it's going to be a rainy one for a lot of us today and all day rain.

Tomorrow is supposed to be warm and dry for many, but then an unsettled pattern moves in for all the rest of the week with chances of showers or thunderstorms from Wednesday onwards.

So if you were going to plan anything outdoors, Tuesday just

might be the way to do it.

So let's see.

Tony says we did it perfectly.

He writes on YouTube.

I finished mowing just as it started to rain Saturday and then went to Duluth on Sunday to stock up on food.

I had the same experience yesterday with the yard work and getting it done just ahead of the rain.

In fact, that was my Facebook post.

yesterday afternoon was a kind of a split image of the weather radar with a little blob of heavy rain just as it was about to move into Chippewa and then the other half of the photo is my feet in a hammock because we got all the yard work done we went through all the landscaping Sherry did a lot of the weeding I did some trimming mowing you name it could see that the weather was going to change and so my plan was to spend a good hour or so in the hammock yesterday that didn't happen

But we got all the work done.

So I took the obligatory picture of me and the hammock for all of about 30 seconds, Parker Olson.

But sometimes that's all you need is just just that moment of victory to say, we got it all done.

The first drops of rain start to hit my face and I go, all right, hammock time is over.

That's it.

That's all right.

I made it.

I made it.

How was your weekend?

Parker Olson

It was pretty good.

Did a little bit of work with Madison Mallard shooting a couple of games.

Had a.

Well, it's supposed to be a surprise party for my dad, but you know how surprise parties are when you're trying to trick somebody.

That doesn't usually go too hot.

So he figured that out like the day before his birthday is today.

Pat Criteau

He figured out the surprise party.

Parker Olson

Yeah.

Too many people are asking him to do stuff at 2.30 on Saturday.

Pat Criteau

Ah, yeah.

You got to coordinate that better, the diversions.

Parker Olson

He just kept saying, no, we couldn't get them.

pieced it together.

Why does Gar want to play golf with me?

Why did Nick and Parker want to take me out for a beer?

What is happening?

Pat Criteau

I think he caught on really early.

That's just how good passive aggressive people deal with these things.

So that's my guess.

Oh, well, I'm sure that he still managed to have a good time.

Parker Olson

Oh

Pat Criteau

yeah, he was happy with it.

even without the surprise, so that's good.

And the Madison Mallard games, are those, you had a couple of games this weekend?

Yeah,

Parker Olson

couple of games.

Good crowd.

Saturday, Sunday, pretty good crowds of both in the crowd on Saturday was our very own Luke Mathers.

Our

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own Luke Mathers?

Parker Olson

Yeah, got him on the video board even.

He

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got him out of Sun Prairie.

It's a big deal.

Usually he just works and sleeps.

It's nice to see you can find some time for recreation.

Parker Olson

It was weird to see him in the wild.

Yeah, I did not

Pat Criteau

expect that.

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This was a very interesting theater week for me, Mr. Olson.

I have not, I've never been in a play.

I can't say I've been to a ton of plays and yet there, we did watch some of the Tony Awards last night in part because I loved Hamilton

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so

Pat Criteau

much.

can't believe that's been 10 years now.

And so they

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had this

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10th anniversary where, well, they said they were going to have a 10th anniversary with the original cast.

And you know how this goes on the award shows, which started at seven o'clock and they're like, coming up reunion of the original cast of Hamilton.

And then the next commercial break coming up the original cast of Hamilton.

At some point we realized what they should have said is coming up in the next three and a half hours.

Yeah.

So long asleep by then.

So it didn't get to see that.

But there was another Broadway play that I watched and a lot of other people watched without being on Broadway.

And that was Saturday evening when CNN provided a live televised appearance of one of the last runs of Good Night and Good Luck with George Clooney playing Edward R. Murrow.

And I have never seen a Broadway play televised live like that before.

And it was incredible.

And I liked the original movie, Good Night and Good Luck, where George Clooney wasn't playing Merle.

He was playing Fred Friendly, CBS News president.

But again, that was 20 years ago.

And I just wasn't sure if I would like the player or not.

And it was tremendous.

And I have no idea if you can go stream that now or, you know, if it's available somewhere.

But if it is, and if you have any interest in that.

I would highly recommend watching Good Night and Good Luck.

Not just because it's a good story about Edward R. Murrow and CBS News and the Red Scare with Joseph McCarthy, the junior senator from Wisconsin.

But I mean, it is downright chilling the parallels to today, where again, you have people in high places trying to intimidate people in the media, and you have people in the media backing down.

You know, you have Paramount, parent company of CBS, trying to reach a deal right now, which would make CBS News look bad, even though they did nothing wrong, and yet ABC News settling.

So if you know nothing about Edward R. Murrow, CBS News, and McCarthyism, that's fine.

Watch it, get a sense for what happened then, and tell me you don't notice the parallels to today either, and it was just good entertainment.

Parker Olson

Interesting.

I'll have to check that out.

I have not heard of it.

I am a musical person, so I will have to look that out.

Pat Criteau

Oh, you like doing musical shows?

Yeah, yeah.

Parker Olson

I was in three musicals when I was in high school.

Pat Criteau

Oh, okay.

Like leading roles or supporting roles.

I mean, are you known for belting out a particular song?

Parker Olson

Not particularly, no.

I did have a lead-ish role.

What year was that?

My sophomore year.

Pat Criteau

Okay.

Yeah.

I was the

Parker Olson

mayor.

I was Mr. Mayor of Whoville.

Pat Criteau

Of Whoville.

Yeah.

Oh, very nice.

Okay.

Alicia puts on YouTube here.

I was stage manager for a musical in college.

Yes.

Tony's asking about the handsome and capable Luke Mathers at the Mallard game and he asks, did something go wrong behind the scenes at the Mallards game and Luke solved it?

Capably?

No.

No.

No.

But the things he could have.

Oh, he does the thing.

Oh, could if he if he'd wanted to solve a problem

Parker Olson

for how janky the setup is at Northwoods League for those live streams.

He definitely could have solved something.

Pat Criteau

But, but you guys made it work.

And that's, that's, that's wonderful.

All right.

Hey, I want to call your attention to Dan Schaffer's work, political editor of Civic Media, and of course, founder of the Recombobulation area.

He is going to be guest hosting the Maggie Dawn show on Tuesday, along with Angela Lang from Block.

And it's at that point shortly before the show that Dan is going to publish a column.

that's going to have a lot of people talking.

And so, you know, Dan will preview it for us tomorrow morning, and then you'll want to catch him on the Maggie Dawn show coming up on Tuesday afternoon to learn more about a very important column that he's going to be publishing this week.

Wisconsin Democrats will have their state convention coming up this next weekend in Wisconsin Dells.

They will be selecting a new chair for the state party, also other executive officers and resolutions, all the other usual business, and of course all the usual speculation about whether Governor Tony Evers will say anything about running for a third term.

Now he has said previously he won't decide anything until after the budget process is all done.

needless to say, there will be a lot of delegates there, you know, with their fingers crossed, hoping that he changes his mind.

And, you know, they're the first ones to hear any kind of an announcement, you know, up or down on a third term campaign.

So I'm sure we'll have a lot to talk about a week from today after that convention.

Also, in our daily newsletter at UpNorth News, which you can sign up for over at UpNorthNewsWI.com, we've got, I did mention before, the, you know, so called

pro-life states and their high infant mortality and child poverty rates.

So we've got that there.

But also for National Dairy Month, there's little trivia in there about Wisconsin and daring.

Parker, let me bounce one or two of these off you before we go to break here.

Wisconsin produces what percentage of all the cheese in America?

Oh boy,

Parker Olson

it's got to be a big number.

Give me, necessarily.

Pat Criteau

I mean, it's one, it's only one

Parker Olson

state out of 50.

I mean, yeah, but it's handsome.

Come on.

Pat Criteau

Give me

Parker Olson

65%.

Pat Criteau

No, 25.

One quarter of all the cheese in America is made there.

How many different varieties of cheese?

If I said, give me a number between 250 and 1000.

Oh, 400.

600?

Not bad.

Not bad at all.

Let's see, give you another one.

90% of Wisconsin milk is made into cheese.

I bet a lot of people didn't know that.

Wow.

90% of Wisconsin milk is made into cheese, because again, there are enough other dairies, farms, cows around the country that, you know, it's not that our milk gets shipped out, but so much of it gets made into cheese.

And later on, maybe I'll share the trivia about why do fresh cheese curds squeak?

There is an actual reason that explains it.

And we'll tell you all about that at some point.

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Pat Criteau

Welcome back just about 623.

I'm Pat Crightlow, founding editor of UpNorth News.

UpNorth News is a separate entity from civic media, but we so appreciate this partnership that we do five mornings a week from six to nine.

And then you can follow what I do the rest of the day over at UpNorthNewsWI.com.

UpNorth News belongs to Courier Newsroom, a pro-democracy news network, and you can find what all is happening on our side of the fence over at CourierNewsroom.com.

That includes all kinds of videos, columns, newsletters.

Let's see, there's video series that are on there as well.

And a couple that I wanted to tell you about here, of course, we've got our friend Mark Jacob that you hear on Friday mornings.

And he has a newsletter called Stop the Presses, which you can get at stopthepresses.news or couriernewsroom.com.

And his most recent column says, you defeat Trump by concentrating on consequences.

He writes, as the Trump regime tries to bum rush our democracy with one outrageous move after another, the media scramble to cover them all.

Too often, the developments get reported piecemeal, a cancer study canceled here, a false statement about autism there, and the public feels overwhelmed.

And criticism that focuses on Trump's persona simply doesn't work.

Trump's biggest supporters are never going to be turned off by his crude behavior, Mark writes, or his rampant dishonesty.

He makes his base of mostly white, mostly male voters feel good about themselves by sending a message that they own this country while women and people of color are just renting.

So instead of making the coverage about Trump, keep the focus on the consequences of his ideas.

More food poisoning because of a lack of restaurant inspections.

More cases of measles because of vaccination cutbacks.

More lung cancer deaths because of the cancellation of programs that get people to quit smoking.

Supporters of Trump may not understand what it means to fire inspectors general.

They may not care whether children in Africa starve to death because of the trashing of foreign aid.

But the MAGA crowd does notice when prices go up or the government services they like get cut.

That's an excerpt from Mark Jacobs.

Get the full column over at couriernewsroom.com or set up a subscription that comes to your inbox.

Go to stopthepresses.news to get more from Mark Jacobs.

And again, so many other columns, podcasts out there that we'll tell you about from time to time in the coming days.

But as far as Trump goes, obviously the flash point right now is in California where

You have a president that is intentionally, even though he said he was going after, you know, the criminals and terrorists has decided to just go trolling in Home Depot parking lots and roundup brown-skinned people who have been working, paying taxes, supporting families, helping keep our economy alive.

But again, when your policy is based on race rather than actual reality of solving problems, you could see where this would happen.

And so an analysis piece in The New York Times by Tyler Pager says, it is the fight President Trump has been waiting for, a showdown with a top political rival in a deep blue state over an issue core to his political agenda.

In bypassing the authority of Democratic Governor Gavin Newsom to call in the National Guard to quell anti-ice protests in Los Angeles, Trump is now pushing the boundaries of presidential authority and stoking criticism that he is inflaming the situation for political gain.

Well, no kidding.

I mean, again, this line, he's pushing the boundaries of presidential authority.

No, he's on a collision course with martial law, and that's what he wants.

He wants his administration to get things done at the end of a barrel of a gun if need be.

That's who he is.

He's been trying to tell you this from day one.

The sad part isn't that he's doing it.

The sad part is that there are people that cheer him on for that and who want to see this.

Fortunately for us, there are still some checks and balances left and one of the checks and balances is the First Amendment and the freedom to protest and to show other people that this is not something that is right, it doesn't sit well.

But again, coming back to Mark Jacobs' point, it's a waste of our resources.

We have never had a more important time for immigration reform to keep this economy going.

We already know what the worker shortages are like and yet,

Trump blew up a bipartisan agreement that could have fixed all of this.

He's been wasting our resources, bringing the military into Los Angeles in order to pick up people off the street at a Home Depot parking lot.

Is that where your tax dollars should be going instead of the things that actually benefit you, your life and your economy?

This guy's wasting your money on a big old military parade that's going to be coming up next week.

He's got a bill right now that would put another three trillion dollars into the national debt.

There's nothing fiscal conservative about this guy.

It's a guy who is part of a group that would love to see the country continue to be divided by skin color, by gender, by sexual preference, and of course by political differences.

He has seen what people in other countries do about political differences.

Closing down other political parties or at least rigging the game so that his opponents can't get further into power.

Or at least provide some checks and balances.

This is who he is.

So when you watch this this week as things continue to unfold and hopefully unfold peacefully.

But remember that this is not some kind of chicken and egg thing where it's like, I don't know, did this start with the protesters?

Did this start?

No, this has always been Donald Trump's intent to have a showdown like this that would lead if need be to armed conflict.

Because again, the things that we're bringing back into this country that we never thought we'd see again is just stunning.

Things that are worse than Watergate.

Things that are more corrupt things that may be more deadly We remember Kent State.

I don't know that he does Maybe he does and a lot of people go well that was a good starting point Keep all this in mind as you watch what he does with your resources your time and our national reputation and our bill of rights and more in the coming days

Kristen Lirely is on the way.

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More live from Chip Will Falls after the Midwest Farm Report here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

A Manny Machado home run was all that took for the San Diego Padres to beat the Brewers yesterday and take two out of three.

The bats have just gone quiet again.

Well, not entirely, just with runners in scoring position.

The Brewers have certainly found a way to get on base, but in key situations haven't been able to score.

some very low-scoring games this weekend.

We'll see if that can't change with a new series.

Still at American Family Field, but now it's Atlanta that comes to town.

The pregame will get started at 6.05 this evening on several Civic Media stations.

Head to civicmedia.us to learn more.

Let's see, the NHL Stanley Cup Finals return tonight with game three in Miami.

Edmonton and Florida are tied at one game apiece.

Oklahoma City beat the Indiana Pacers last night in the NBA finals.

That series is tied at one game apiece.

The game three will be played Wednesday in Indiana.

And also, let's see, Jimmy Koska will be on just over an hour from now, and we will be talking about the weekend in sports.

Very busy for postseason action in high school sports, baseball, softball, track and field, women's soccer, boys golf, boys tennis.

There's a lot going on out there, and Jimmy will have much more about it, like I said, sometime in our next hour.

But let's bring in Dr. Kristen Lyrely, host of the Dr. Kristen Lyrely show.

I believe that happened this weekend.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

It did.

We talked about pride.

It was so much fun.

Pat Criteau

That's wonderful.

And let's see, then you went to, you were in Chicago, you seen a concert, right?

Dr. Kristen Lierly

Yeah, we went to go see Kendrick Lamar and SZA at Soldier Field, which was really great because Soldier Field usually doesn't have a lot of entertainment, so this was something

Pat Criteau

new.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

Yes.

Pat Criteau

Nice that they found that good use for it, very productive that way.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

I love the Bears as great opponents to the Packers.

Pat Criteau

Yes.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

Greatest rivalry in NFL history.

That

Pat Criteau

much is true.

Yes.

And you brought one of the boys down?

Dr. Kristen Lierly

Yeah, my youngest.

It was his first concert and he was so excited.

It was a great concert.

It was very artistic.

The choreography was unbelievable.

What we saw up on screen was it was so different than going to like a Springsteen concert.

You know, it was yeah, incredible.

Pat Criteau

Oh, that's great.

Yeah, there was a over.

by Cadot here on the Rockfest Countryfest grounds.

I know that they have new names now.

I haven't learned them yet.

But there was some other music festival there this weekend, like all about EDM music.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

Oh, you didn't go?

Pat Criteau

I didn't go.

No.

And I definitely got differing versions of it, depending on who you talk to.

There were a lot of folks that said the crowd was peaceful and maybe peaceful for, you know,

chemically induced reasons.

But that they weren't nearly as rowdy as, you know, some of the other music festivals that are up there.

We had we had discussions this week about the difference between deadheads and parrot heads.

I mean, there's just a whole culture out there about, you know, live music.

And I was talking about watching, you know, Broadway shows in the last segment here.

What was it about this particular concert that you wanted to go down to in Chicago?

Dr. Kristen Lierly

It was him.

It was my son's Christmas.

It was my son's Christmas present.

Oh, OK.

Yeah.

OK.

Yeah.

But there's music everywhere, Pat.

I mean, in the Valley, in the Fox Valley, we've got Myle of Music.

It's a big three day long music festival that features young up and coming artists.

There is a big Friday night series in downtown Green Bay on the city deck.

Everywhere you go in Wisconsin in the summer, there is music and so many great local folks.

I'll just give a shout out to one of my faves, Pat McCurdy.

Love that.

Yes.

Good.

Pat Criteau

Yeah.

All right.

Well, we've got, I want to get to, because you had a post about men's health week or men's health month the other day, I believe.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, it's men's health month.

Pat Criteau

Yeah.

And just again, provide that reminder to guys not to, I mean, it even showed up in my dreams last night.

I

Dr. Kristen Lierly

was in your dreams last night.

You know,

Pat Criteau

somebody was hectoring me in my dreams last night about

following up on the sleep apnea thing.

I'm like, the badgering has now invaded my dreams is

Dr. Kristen Lierly

where it's

Pat Criteau

come.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

You're welcome.

Pat Criteau

Yes,

Dr. Kristen Lierly

exactly.

Men are much less likely to seek care.

for problems.

This is documented.

So that's why it's important that we've got men's health month.

And if I can leave you with one really important thing to remember, things like diabetes and blood pressure problems and cancer, those are things that often sneak up on you that are preventable.

And if you can prevent them at an early stage, you tend to do much better in the long run.

So that's why every single year it's so important to go to your healthcare provider, get your blood pressure checked.

to do all the routine things just to make sure that there's nothing brewing.

Pat Criteau

Very true.

And so, yes, I have that doctor appointment in two weeks here.

So, we'll get the update.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

You're a good man, Pat Crilo.

Pat Criteau

Oh, okay, fine.

In the daily newsletter today, Christina Laurie included a story about

States that you know claim to be quote-unquote, you know pro-life, but how pro-life is it if along with the abortion bans you have in place You're also among the top ten states for the highest infant mortality rates the highest child poverty rates and the least affordable health care now spoiler alert as Christina notes all of those states are run by

Republicans.

She talks about Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, Alabama, South Dakota.

They lead the country in infant deaths, Kristen, and the numbers for infant deaths, maternal mortality and more are just downright alarming.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

In maternal mortality, we know that moms who live in states with abortion bans are three times more likely to die as a result of their pregnancies.

We know that these babies are more likely to die.

So

when Republicans say that they are the pro-life party, it demonstrates to me where that life is.

Pat Criteau

We're not seeing it in the stats.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

It is not there because, and I've said it over and over again and I'll say it always, abortion is healthcare.

It's complicated.

These are complex issues.

You can't directly connect the dots.

They are hard to talk about.

They involve so many different.

emotions and feelings and values and ideologies, all of that.

And that's why nobody can make your personal health care decisions except for you.

Pat Criteau

Right.

And the thing is the, you know, the, the source for this article was actually a report in the BBC because again, other, other countries are looking at allies are looking at us and going, what are you guys doing over here?

You know, with with women's health and with family health, not to mention personal liberties and everything else that we've already talked about this morning.

And I don't have an easy answer because we know the answers.

The answers are better health care, you know, freedom of health choices for women, better resources that go to these things.

And it's not that shocking when you don't do those things that we have reports like this one.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

Maternal mortality, moms dying related to their pregnancies.

That was bad.

Long before all of the current badness even when abortion was more accessible in this country Just but base basically because we don't have access to fundamental health care women don't have access to Contraception they don't have access to safe birth in many cases There are so many different places where we can make a difference especially in rural communities I mean 50% of pregnancies in rural communities are managed by here are covered by

Medicaid.

And if we're cutting back on Medicaid because we are trying to give tax breaks to rich people, who will suffer?

It's women and children and families in rural communities.

And I can't say that enough because it's so, like I said, it's so hard to connect those dots directly.

But the proof is in the pudding and it's been there for years and years and it keeps getting worse.

Pat Criteau

Over at Courier Newsroom, there is another column I would point people to, a newsletter by Nina Burley called American Freak Show.

It's a weekly newsletter that keeps an eye on mega extremism and its absurdity.

And Nina's column, the latest one, the headline is Ladies.

Please step out in the parking lot to die.

A story of Texas chainsaw misogyny.

She writes, the Trump administration is really sticking it to women.

And since so many of the abuses emerged from the test kitchen of women hating, that is the Lone Star State, I call this Texas Chainsaw Misogyny.

Texas is always trailblazing new territory and using state power to control women's bodies.

They've had on the books for years a sick bounty law that grants $10,000 to any citizen who reports a woman who gets an abortion.

Anyone who provides their aides and abets in one or provides medical abortion drugs.

The state even allows men to sue their partners who receive an abortion as well as any friends who help them do so in court.

After the dobs ruling the Biden administration instructed hospitals, they had to continue treating bleeding and otherwise endangered pregnant women under the federal emergency medical treatment and labor actor M. Tala.

Last week, a Trump edict repealed the Biden guidance.

The meaning is explicit.

American women.

are on their own and the Trump government would rather they bleed out in a parking lot or face a lifetime without working reproductive organs rather than have a health care worker help them.

And I bring in an obstetrician gynecologist for a little affirmation on this in case those there are people aren't going oh that sounds rather alarmist and extreme.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

Don't think that this isn't happening because it is.

It's just not happening to you right now.

And that's, that's the problem until it becomes personal, whether we're talking about the economy or abortion or getting a cancer diagnosis, it doesn't mean nearly as much to you until it happens to you.

So I can guarantee you that this is happening in Texas.

It's happening in Idaho.

It's happening in Wisconsin.

There's a lot of fear.

There is a lot of division over this issue and people are suffering and frankly, they're dying as a result of it.

It has to stop at some point, but I don't know where the bottom is, Pat.

Like, at what point do we, as a society, say, you know what, this is a difficult situation.

But we need to provide health care to people who can get pregnant.

Pat Criteau

I wish I knew the answer to that as well.

But we don't.

And I keep becoming amazed at the ways that we go backwards.

I spoke in the last segment about Watergate, for example, about Kent State.

And now I'm going to go back.

even further.

Over the weekend was the 60th anniversary of the Griswold decision.

The Griswold decision was a case called Griswold v Connecticut.

The U.S.

Supreme Court decided in 1965 that states could no longer criminalize the use of contraception by married couples.

Let me say that again for the younger folks out there who go, what?

They did what?

Yeah, the Supreme Court decision

finally stopped states from criminalizing the use of contraception by married couples.

And then Kristen, it was eventually expanded so that, you know, any women, you didn't just have to be married to be able to get birth control pills.

That's where we were in this country only 60 years ago.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

I've met women who had to get permission from their husbands in order to get contraception.

And how crazy is that?

But it was not that.

long ago.

And for single women, it was even less, it was in my lifetime.

It's really hard to believe that it has only been that short period of time and that this is still continuing to happen.

But this is happening even now.

We're seeing restrictions on access to contraception, to pregnancy related care, certainly to abortion care.

Again, there is no

Bottom here, we are backsliding in the wrong direction, and it is so incredibly important for us as people to stand up and say, we're not going to do this anymore.

We demand health care.

We demand pregnancy-related care because we're dying without it.

Pat Criteau

And by the way, for anybody going, well, we wouldn't backtrack that far.

First off, Roe v. Wade is

SPEAKER_03

gone.

It's

Pat Criteau

gone.

And when it went away,

Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, and I'm sure Brett Kavanaugh and some others, but especially Clarence Thomas, specifically cited other cases.

They said, well, see, we just got rid of Roe v. Wade.

Here's some other cases we need to get rid of.

The Griswold case was one of those that was specifically mentioned, along with the case that, you know, guaranteed same-sex marriage.

We are very much on a path toward, once again, criminalizing

not just abortion, but contraception.

That's what this government that's in power right now would like to do unless there are some checks and balances.

Today's history lesson is coming up next, as we always do, mornings up north and live here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Pat Criteau

This is the anniversary of Jackie Wilson's birth.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

Happy Monday, everybody.

Pat Criteau

Whoo-hoo!

Jackie Wilson was born in Detroit this day in 1934, gone way too early back in 1984.

We got a lot of birthdays to report today on this, what is it, June 9th?

Michael J. Fox, little Michael J. Fox, 64 years old today.

So is Aaron Sorkin, they were born on the same day.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, 64 today.

Johnny Depp.

Happy birthday, 62 years old today.

I remember Johnny Depp, I remember 21 Jump Street,

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he was like

Pat Criteau

the hot new actor on the scene, you know?

Natalie Portman is 44 years old today.

Born this day in 1915 in Waukesha, Wisconsin, a key developer of the electric guitar, won Les Paul.

Folks in the 40s 50s Had no idea guitar could do this Imagine if he could jam today with you know some of the greats that we've had since then you know you're Eddie Van Halen's and others but a lot of it really started with Waukesha's own Les Paul born this day in 1915 on this day in 1973 secretariat won the Triple Crown and Again, you don't have to be a big horse racing fan

But if you want, go on YouTube and look up Secretariat winning the Triple Crown at the Belmont Stakes.

And this horse won by, I forget how many lengths now, was it 50 lengths?

So many, it's ridiculous.

It really was.

Let's see another birthday for today, born this day in 1954, that makes him 71 years old today.

Pete Byrne, the English lead singer of the new wave band Naked Eyes.

SPEAKER_03

I

Dr. Kristen Lierly

don't really love that all these 80s people are in their 60s and 70s right now.

That's gonna be a

Pat Criteau

complex.

Yeah, something not right about that.

Tony on YouTube, Michael J. Fox tried to tell them about rock and roll, but they just weren't ready.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

That's

Pat Criteau

right.

Yep.

See, Cole Porter was born this day in 1891 in Indiana.

Classic songs like Night and Day.

It's the lovely Anything Goes and so much more.

What a transition I'm making from Cole Porter's Night and Day.

to how in this day in 1990, MC Hammer's Please Hammer Don't Hurt'em became just the second rap album to reach number one.

SPEAKER_03

Can't touch this.

Can't touch

Dr. Kristen Lierly

this.

Do you still have your MC Hammer pants, Pat?

Pat Criteau

I never did.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

Sure.

Pat Criteau

By the way, Please Hammer Don't Hurt'em, I said the second rap album to reach number one.

The first was, Kristen, any idea?

What

Dr. Kristen Lierly

group had the first one?

Pat Criteau

That's a good guess, but no, it was the Beastie Boys.

Licensed to ill.

So MC Hammer here had the number one album this week in 1990.

The number one single this week in 1990 was Wilson Phillips with Hold On.

And finally, on this day in 2007, the number one song was from a relatively new singer, Rihanna.

So I guess she just recently announced that she's pregnant.

Again, which is perfectly fine.

Love it.

But I love the way that it's presented on like the entertainment shows because people have been waiting for years for her to come up with a new album.

And then she was pregnant.

And then, okay, a couple of years later, they thought, here comes the album.

Nope, here comes the next pregnancy.

And so again, people were like, okay, it's time for Rihanna to drop that album.

Nope, she's dropping another baby.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

Remember when she performed the Super Bowl halftime?

Pregnant?

Yes.

And was it like a big reveal?

She's been a prolific hitmaker.

Pat Criteau

Oh, I know.

And again, like any of these folks, at any point you can say, no, I'm done.

It's a lot of work to either write these songs, perform them, go on tour, everything else.

So

Dr. Kristen Lierly

just state of child in your womb, also a lot of work.

Pat Criteau

Yeah, yeah.

Put it here, yeah.

Cassandra on YouTube.

All I see when I hear umbrella is Tom Holland dancing in the rain in a maid's outfit.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

Oh my gosh, Cassandra.

Yes.

If you have not seen that video, please look it up.

I don't know.

Maybe I have.

It was on what?

Oh, I have a lip sync battle.

Pat Criteau

Oh, OK.

I don't remember the maid outfit, but I do remember Tom Holland.

Yes.

I definitely have to look that one up.

Let's see.

This is, we mentioned men's health week.

This is auto service professionals day.

So thanks to all those folks who can keep our cars going because they're no longer, you can't just get under your car, open the hood and fix something anymore.

You need to have a PhD in computer technology.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

Did you used to do that?

Pat Criteau

Everybody used to do that.

I used to be.

I even I could fix things in my

Dr. Kristen Lierly

car

Pat Criteau

once upon a time.

Even I could do it.

There's nothing I can do there now that doesn't involve having an MIT grad pulling that hood up.

And finally, this is National Strawberry Rhubarb Pie Day.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

Dr. Kristen Lierly

No.

Pat Criteau

Is

Dr. Kristen Lierly

that what we needed?

I'm going to do that.

Pat Criteau

Yeah.

It's a weed.

What are you doing?

Dr. Kristen Lierly

It's a weed.

Rhubarb, I love rhubarb.

Pat Criteau

Well, somebody had to, right?

Dr. Kristen Lierly

Just put a lot of sugar on it.

Pat Criteau

Yeah.

Yeah, I think that's the point I'm trying to make if it needs that much sugar on it.

But hey, if the sugar and the strawberries and everything else get her done, okay, fine.

Let's see, see, on the one, Tony's right, he's got you, just you right there.

And one follow up from Cassandra and Tom Holland, that man is so comfortable in his skin and he decided to be sober because he knew what it was doing to him.

which, again, kind of related to men's health, you know, alcohol intake and other things that are bad from you.

If you can avoid those, you really should.

Coming up in our next hour, we will be talking to State Senator Chris Larson.

about various bills that have been introduced by Democratic legislators not going to pass with the Republican majority, but they send a message about who's out there fighting for you.

Two more hours to go as we get rolling on another one of those Monday mornings powered by Up North News.

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