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Now, from our Lake WSOTA studio, here is the founding editor of Up North News, Pat Craiglow.
Good morning.
It's 6.06 on this Thursday morning, May 29th, 2025.
Another beautiful morning to have you here up north, live from Lake WSOTA.
From wherever you're spending your mornings listening across the Civic Media Radio Network,
On the app, on social media, by podcast, thanks for starting your day right here.
I've got a question for you, though I think it's actually more for me.
Can you believe I have a grandson graduating high school?
I suppose it doesn't surprise most of you because you just hear a grouchy old man on the radio, but I mean, I may be 60, but it's weird because I have daughters who are 34 and 36, and yet I'm only 37 years old.
it's it's amazing and yet somehow I've got a grandson graduating high school so Todd Alba will be filling in tomorrow so that I can attend those festivities and then I will be back first thing Monday morning uh coming up on the program today we're going to talk about Senator Ron Johnson and again uh ophthalmologists everywhere are warning that
I caused too many eye rolls on this show, so I'm warning you ahead of time what I'm about to say could cause an eye roll so serious you may need medical attention.
Senator Ron Johnson is not closing the door on running for a fourth term claiming at a Milwaukee Press Club event yesterday that he's quote, just a guy from Oshkosh who's trying to save the country.
Yeah, see, you hurt, you hurt yourself, didn't you?
with the eye roll.
We'll talk more about what Ron Johnson had to say at that event.
Also, when you elect a convicted criminal as president, don't be surprised when he starts letting fellow felons out of prison.
Of course, there's a catch.
He's only pardoning reality TV stars and public supporters.
And we'll talk about how he reacted when he was told that Wall Street has coined a new term for his on again off again tariffs.
Taco for Trump
always chickens out, which is great because I got tired of the media all the time saying, oh, Trump has graciously agreed to pull back on his threat to do tariff.
No, he's flip-flopping.
It's what he does.
Coming up in our second hour, we'll follow up on Congressman Derek Van Orden claiming that anyone who says the Trump budget plan is going to cut benefits like to Medicaid and SNAP and other things is a liar.
And yet there's already a line forming with folks who would like to point out that it's Van Orden whose pants are on fire.
When it comes to that claim, we will talk to guests from Citizen Action who outlined the real harm that's going to come to people if the big, beautiful bill that Derrick Van Orden and every other Wisconsin Republican supports becomes reality.
In our third hour, we'll talk about how Senator Tammy Baldwin is not only fighting back against proposed cuts to Medicaid.
She and others are putting forward a bill that would call for even more prescription drugs to have their prices lowered by giving the government the power to negotiate bulk pricing, something that was championed by President Joe Biden.
We're not saying it's gonna happen next week, obviously, but as people start thinking about the 2026 midterms and really who should be running Congress.
It's a good idea for Tammy Baldwin to put forward.
We'll discuss that with Joseph Peckie.
We'll talk to Chad Holmes about stories he's covering around Wausau and Sean O'Malley talks to us about money and markets.
We'll get Brittany Merleau's forecast as well.
I can give you her overall statewide forecast.
It goes like this.
The high pressure system is settling in slowly.
It's going to bring in some spots of sun, but the chances for scattered showers and storms still linger for these next couple of days as that high pressure system eventually settles in.
And once it settles in, there is going to be a massive warm up, bringing summer weather to Wisconsin.
But first for today, partly cloudy and mild, some spotty afternoon showers and thunderstorms are possible.
High statewide in the low to mid seventies,
And a northwest wind still at 10 to 15 miles an hour.
So I'll say again, despite all the rain lately, there's still a shortage in areas enough that you should be careful with any, any fires, any things that could possibly ignite a fire.
A few clouds tonight, lows will be in the low fifties with a light northwesterly wind.
Parker Olson is standing by in the studio in Madison.
Greg Bach is standing by at Radio Park.
Greg
with his head in his hands he's just he's got he's got like his little fist under his under his jaw and he's just kind of giving us this look like a man who is is ready to clock out he has had his fill of these six a.m radio shows and uh after after tomorrow after tomorrow which means after today with me that boy is out of here
Yeah.
So he is our harbinger of the weekend.
The harbinger of funny the arbiter, the arbiter of chuckles.
I know.
And then you will of course, here comes still every single weekday from nine to 11 with Matt and air on air with Jane and Greg.
Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun.
It's going to be a humdinger, Pat.
All right.
What are
Both because a big weekend hit the laughing tap actually starts tonight.
Five shows.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Tell us more.
It is a special fundraising show for the laughing tap because as we've announced as I've announced before that we are going to be closing the current location in Milwaukee and trying to find a new home.
But this weekend we're going to have five shows starring two, and I don't say this lightly and I absolutely mean it.
Legends, two legends of stand-up comedy at the club.
We have Bobcat Goldthwaite and Dana Gould.
No.
Yep, Bobcat.
Bobcat, this is our fourth time working with Bobcat.
Dana Gould is a legend of stand-up comedy.
He's done all of the late night shows.
He's written, I mean, he's written for the Simpsons.
How about we just start there?
That's a good place to start.
That's pretty good.
He has been on, also, I mean, it doesn't think it's his.
I want to pull up his Wikipedia page because people are like, he was on the Ben Stiller show.
He was on the TV show, Doug.
He's been on the nanny, Roseanne, Sabrina, the teenage witch, Ellen, Seinfeld.
I mean, the, like the Simpsons, he's been in the movie father.
Oh, father of the pride, but still like the list goes on and on.
And he is one of the most incredible comedians ever.
And he is also, by the way, one of the nicest people on earth.
So five shows.
Five shows, it is a higher ticket price for this because it is a special event weekend fundraiser and you can go to laughingtap.com for tickets and we're going to have a great time this weekend.
But yeah, all starts tonight.
Five shows.
One tonight, two Friday, two Saturday.
Sounds
And then have you taken my advice yet?
Because that that's when the search begins for the new laughing tap location.
Have you in fact hired an HGTV camera crew?
to follow you, much like they would follow home buyers looking for the perfect location.
And that way they can hear you and the partners, you know, critique each place.
That's a moneymaker
right
Wear that badge with honor my friend always wear it with honor You can get our daily newsletter over at up north news wi.com Christina Laurie puts that together on the weekdays and then I put together one on Sunday mornings We've given we've given the Sunday morning newsletter title guys it started off as up north news Sunday politics edition
Because, you know, Monday through Friday, they're kind of lighter featurey stories with a little news woven in, but then Sunday is all about the week in Wisconsin politics.
And so it was up north news, Sunday politics edition or something like that.
We've come up with a new name for the Sunday morning newsletter.
There
WNBC.
Yeah, whatever works.
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What a big win for the Milwaukee Brewers yesterday afternoon.
Another
10th inning walk-off win sweeping all three games from the Boston Red Sox.
Six to five was yesterday's final and it ended sounding something like
this.
I mean, a sack fly.
We've made a sack fly sound exciting, folks.
But it was a speedy sell Freelik running home from third to give the Brewers what would be their fourth win in a row.
It is their second four game winning streak of the season.
And with it, the Brewers are finally back at 500.
28 wins, 28 losses, third place in the NL Central, six and a half games back of the Cubs.
The Brewers are off today.
They are traveling to Philadelphia for the weekend.
Where they are gonna have their work cut out for them the Phillies have the second best record in baseball right now Having won nine of their last ten so again a day off today But then you can catch the Brewers Philly series throughout the weekend on several civic media radio stations Head over to civicmedia.us to learn more
And one more sports note, I regret to tell you that the most cursed franchise in the National Basketball Association, the Minnesota Timberwolves have been eliminated in the Western Conference Finals.
Thanks for playing.
It's just a cursed French.
There's just no, there's no other way.
I have no emotions.
Yeah.
Well, throughout the Brewers season,
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Listen for keywords throughout the day.
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Guys, I would like to talk to you about podcasts for just a moment here because I've realized that when it comes to podcasts, I'm in
Uh, I have not been part of the full range of ways that people get podcasts from civic media shows or other things.
So first let's, let's tell folks the obvious thing.
This, this is a radio show.
Okay.
Civic media is a network of radio stations.
So first and foremost, it would be awesome to have you as a regular daily radio listener.
Uh, radio is live.
It's local.
It's portable.
It's wonderful.
But it is not the only platform available and having said that I thought well I don't actually know the last time that I read the New York Times by unfolding a print version and I used to live for the Sunday morning version of the New York Times, but Even though print is their first platform they make money off me through their digital platform
online and they make way more money off me as a result because I'm a subscriber that way rather than an occasional purchaser of a newspaper.
Well, radio similarly has digital platforms, lots of them actually.
And remember, when you hear this word, what's platform?
I say platform instead of product for a reason.
This show is the product.
The usefulness and the entertainment of civic media is the product.
with radio as a primary platform, but like I said, there are all kinds of platforms these days.
The one that I tend to use most often if I'm not listening on the radio would be the Civic Media website, where you can listen to shows live that way.
Also though, we stream shows live on Facebook and on YouTube.
There's also tune in.
There's of course the Civic Media app.
And then there are podcasts.
Now, I've come to appreciate that I am in.
I did not seek this out, but I am in the cult of Apple.
This show was done on an iMac.
I have an iPhone.
I had an iPod back in the day, and most of my podcasts came to me through Apple.
But there's Cast Box, there's Overcast, there's Buzzsprout.
And as we were looking at podcast platforms, somebody finally pointed me in the direction of saying, I'm only using the number two podcast platform out there.
Apple has about 33% of all the podcast traffic out there.
The number one platform that I never ever talk about on the show is Spotify with 37% of podcasts, podcast streaming being done on there.
So.
This is where I take a moment to tell you that if you have Spotify and there's a chance a lot of you do based on these numbers, you can take us with you that way as well.
This show is on Spotify.
There's a lot of stuff on Spotify, but if you go to the podcast tab and you start searching and you go, I don't know how to spell quite low, you don't have to.
Just search Wisconsin mornings and we will pop up that way and you'll see it right there.
But as I, as I am now a new subscriber to Spotify, guys, there is something else that I discovered that when I'm not listening to news or politics or talk, do you know how many Yacht Rock lists are on Spotify that I can listen to?
I
I am loving that.
And again, Civic Media has music stations.
You should listen to the Civic Media music stations.
But if you are on the go and if you are getting podcast through Spotify, add us as a podcast and then take a little time and tell us which of your favorite Yacht Rock stations or lists you like and that way the rest of us can tune in now and then too, Mr. Bogg.
I add one more quest of people and that is if Pat totally deserves it because we don't want to get gold stars if we haven't earned them.
Give a five star review.
Tell us what you love about the show because those reviews can help push the visibility of that podcast up in the ranks and that way people can see it easier.
And I, you, I really don't want to go to Spotify.
Nothing yet Spotify.
I just have, as I refer to it, I'm not going to call them out on this radio station.
Oh, I have, I, I like certain beers from Wisconsin have a severely okay, um, music platform.
in the form of YouTube music.
And I just don't want to pay another service money to get music.
But Disco, Yatra, or no, Disco Motown.
Oh my God.
Of course, I didn't come prepared.
So I could, if I showed you the list, you'd be like, yeah, I would listen to that.
Yeah.
We always think of Motown 60s, but Motown 70s, they were doing pretty good work there as well.
So anyway, so there's our little pitch for Spotify.
And for podcasts overall, we'd love you to be a live local radio listener.
But if you can't, and if you're not in the cult of Apple, like some of us, head over to Spotify, we'd love to see some growth in our podcast subscriptions there and hope that you will consider it.
Let's see, I'm not going to have enough time to start this.
So we'll take take it up after the break.
So maybe instead, I just put you both on the spot real quick here, your hot take.
on the fact that Donald Trump has pardoned the Chrisleys, Todd and Julie Chrisley, who were convicted, again convicted of tax evasion and bank fraud, but have now been commuted after quite the PR campaign by their daughter.
Greg, only fair.
Elections have consequences or one of the greater miscarriages of justice in our time.
Yeah, I'm usually not happy about that.
Here's the headline from Axios that we'll cover after the break.
Trump pardons criminals with mega-credentials or big money.
We'll have all that after the Midwest Farm Report here on the Civic Media Radio Network.
I'm Pat Crichtlow.
Civic Media and at Courier Newsroom, the parent company of Up North News, we were given a mission in 2025 following the November 2024 election of Donald J. Trump as 47th President of the United States.
And that was not to dwell too much on the negative aspects because that would become tiring.
And yet at the same time, we don't want to ignore the things that Trump and Maga Republicans are doing that can be harmful to individuals, if not to the country as a whole.
So we've been working to find balance in the way that we provide national news to you.
Our main emphasis is always on Wisconsin news, Wisconsin politics, Wisconsin people, events, stories.
So when we do talk about...
national politics.
We want to find that right balance of information, and yet at the same time, we want you to keep listening.
We don't want you to become overwhelmed.
So to that end, and in honor of Greg Bach's final full-time shift on this show, we've asked Greg to punctuate the following segment here with what are called
Hot buttons.
Now, Greg has, I believe, 26, did you say hot buttons?
Correct.
Which are buttons that these are preloaded with
Yes, which he has been training young Parker Olson in because Parker will take over the hot buttons come Monday, as Jimmy Buffett likes to say.
And so with that said, and this was, trust me, it's not rehearsed or prearranged.
That's going to become obvious over the next few minutes here.
But I've simply asked that Greg.
Use it uses hot buttons one last time as I tell you about a couple of different stories here Our first one is Trump pardons criminals with mega credentials or big money This seems like an apt place to begin from Axios
Two reality stars, a MAGA-aligned sheriff and a former nursing home executive with a well-connected mother recently joined the list of President Trump's clemency recipients.
Though it's early in his second term, Trump's partons mark a continuation of his first term trend of granting clemency to political loyalists.
He's not the first president to pardon political allies, but his clemency actions signal strong messages about his priorities.
Starting with the controversial avalanche of pardons for the January 6 rioters and commutations for members of extremist groups, the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers, and since then, several loyalists and wealthy allies have received relief for white collar crimes.
And so Trump said on Tuesday he plans to pardon reality TV stars Todd and Julie Chrisley, who were convicted of tax evasion and bank fraud in
2022.
Savannah Chrisley, who's been advocating for her imprisoned parents release, spoke at the Republican National Convention last summer.
Trump has also commuted the sentence of gangster disciples co-founder Larry Hoover.
He has pardoned Republican and former Congresswoman Michael Grimm, who was convicted of aiding in preparing a false tax return.
The president has granted clemency to convicted former Connecticut Governor John Rowland and rapper NBA Young Boy.
Trump in April also pardoned Paul Walzak, a former nursing home executive who was sentenced to 18 months in prison in order to pay more than $4 million in restitution for tax
crimes.
Walzak's pardon has received particular scrutiny because of the political activity of his mother, Elizabeth Fago, a Republican donor who recently attended a one million dollar per person fundraising dinner at Mar-a-Lago.
So if you're a convicted criminal in prison, just have your mom attend a million dollar a person fundraiser dinner and you too can get your boy pardoned out of prison.
Trump also issued a pardon for former Virginia Sheriff Scott Jenkins, whom a jury convicted of felony fraud and bribery charges last year.
Again, fraud and bribery, and yet Trump put a post up that said that Jenkins and his family had been dragged through hell by a corrupt and weaponized Biden DOJ and contended the cases were politically motivated by a weaponized justice departments.
Let's see.
During first Trump's first term, he gave clemency to several allies, including Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, Charles Kushner.
Trump has already signed dozens of pardons since taking office.
Let's see.
Alice Marie Johnson, who was pardoned by Trump after having her life sentence for a nonviolent drug offense commuted under his first term, has been appointed pardons are in Trump's second White House.
As President Trump's interim U.S.
attorney for the District of Columbia, Ed Martin was remarkably blunt about intermingling Trump's political goals with the ostensibly independent actions of the Justice Department.
That might have cost him his permanent gig, so leave it to Martin, who's now Trump's pardon attorney, to say the quiet part out loud about Trump's pardons.
No MAGA left
behind.
On
the other side, though, while Trump is gaining satisfaction out of these pardons, he is no fan of an emerging nickname on Wall Street mocking his on again, off again approach to tariffs.
Trump lashed out, according to this story in USA Today, at a reporter who asked about his response to financial analysts embracing a new term called taco trade.
The acronym stands for Trump always chickens out.
It's a jab at the president's propensity to impose or threaten Steve to steep tariffs on imports only to layer back off Oh I chicken out he says isn't that nice I've never heard that Trump said before defending his recent decision to slash tariffs on China for the next 90 days Then extend his deadline for 50% goods on the European Union until July 9th
Six months ago, he said, this country was stone cold dead.
We had a dead country.
We had a country that didn't think it was going to survive.
And you ask a nasty question like that, it's called negotiations.
I would remind people that six months ago, the country was not stone cold dead.
We were enjoying the greatest recovery from the pandemic of any other nation on the face of the earth.
Can I pause right now just to say this guy's really good at the hot button thing.
He knows what he's doing.
In other news, US Senator Ron Johnson says there's no amount of pressure that President Donald Trump can put on him that would get him to support the House-approved framework for a federal budget deal.
Johnson made the remarks yesterday before a packed crowd at the Milwaukee Press Club.
Sure, Jan.
Johnson has emerged as one of a small number of Senate Republicans who say the measure fails to do enough to reduce the federal deficit.
Johnson's been complaining about the size of the federal debt and deficits since he first ran for office in 2010.
But over the past 15 years, the national debt has more than tripled.
Ron Johnson was bristled at the suggestion that he has failed to limit government spending and overturn Obamacare, his two long-standing campaign promises.
He said, you only have so much power as a U.S.
Senator.
Right now, I'm in a position where the ball is in our court, only so much power as a U.S.
Senator.
whose net personal worth has grown remarkably since he did things like putting in a tax break that helped his personal finances during the 2017 tax bill debate.
The 70 year old Republican says he has no interest in running for president.
Who asked that?
But he did not close the door on running for a fourth term in
office.
Keep
senator.
But then he played up his role in Washington DC with this quote and again I warn people don't roll your eyes too heavy or you'll hurt yourself quote I'm just a guy from Oshkosh just trying to really try and save the country
Johnson complained early on in his talk, according to this Journal Sentinel article, about forces dividing the nation and the world, you know, like Ron Johnson.
He said, this is due to people making boogie men of other nations, leading countries to go to war with one another, and officials scare mongering about pandemics, and then taking away individuals' freedoms.
Again, this is Ron Johnson saying these things.
This nation needs to heal and unify, Johnson said.
I think the good news here, he says, is if you think of the big things in life, taking care of your family, raising your kids the way you want to, you're having enough opportunity so you can provide for your family, provide for your retirement.
Those are goals we can all agree on.
And yet Johnson said he isn't ready to avoid all conflict.
He has also talked about opening a probe into former President Joe Biden's health condition.
The well-known conspiracy theorist says in this journal Sentinel article I want to find out what happened to report to the American public and to put on notice Future vice presidents and cabinet members that your oath of office goes beyond your personal considerations your loyalty to particular persons Who may unfortunately not be competent not being able to carry out the duties of the president of the United States?
That's right.
Ron Johnson is saying
that people should put their oath of office above their loyalty to party or their allies.
Again, this is Ron Johnson who's talking.
So there you go.
There's Ron Johnson's comments about potentially running for a third term, still working on conspiracy theories, telling everybody we should heal and unify for a president who is putting some people
in jail without charges, innocent people who didn't do anything, while he's letting out of jail people who were convicted by a jury of committing serious crimes.
That's where we are on May 29th, 2025 with hot buttons provided by Greg
Bach.
Yeah.
And you did it admirably.
So again, well done.
Find that hot button for applause and give yourself some.
Excellent use of hot buttons in our commentary.
Hey, thanks for spending some time with us as part of your mornings, powered as always by Up North News.
We have today's history lesson as we always do mornings here on the Civic Media Radio Network.
We'll be right back.
I'm back right
This course is Tina Turner 41 years ago this week the release of Private Dancer her big comeback album of course better be good to me and I just I remember when this came out and everybody going this is Tina Turner and it was like we like this I mean not that there was anything wrong with her before but much like Well, I mean a lot of people Rita Franklin and others who
It's not quite their roots anymore, and boy have they blossomed from those roots.
And that was Tina Turner, private dancer in the Big Comeback album again this week in 1984.
Let's go to 1961.
I've actually got two clips here, one for a record that year and one for somebody born that year.
On this day in 1961, the number one record in the country was by Ricky Nelson.
So this was the number one song on May 29th 1961 probably played at whatever hospital Melissa Etheridge was born at 64 years ago today.
Happy birthday to Melissa Etheridge Sing it Melissa Come to my window This is the intro to I'm the only one and
It is solid.
I like the long end because you know in that very beginning it's a little signal that says turn your radio up to 11 and then you get to hear the rest of her singing.
Also born on this day Bob Hope born this day in 1903 passed away in 2003.
Former president John F. Kennedy born this day in 1917.
Danny Elfman is 72 years old today.
The number one song this day in 1965 was from the Beach Boys.
There you
Latoya Jackson is 69 years old today.
Scary Spice, Mel B, one of the Spice Girls turns 50 today.
You know who else turns 50 today?
Daniel Tosh.
Am I right to say comedian Daniel Tosh?
Because I only know him as like that show host from, was it Tosh.0 or whatever it is?
Is he still active?
I think he's kind of like a podcast or something.
Okay.
Yes.
Good.
Because I mean, the show seemed like it was on all the time.
And I hadn't heard anything in the longest time.
So I didn't know.
Although, trust me, I get the same thing no longer being on TV every evening.
I got asked again over the weekend.
So when did you retire?
Like, I haven't retired.
Here's
Listen to the show.
Let's see.
Irene Cara.
had the number one song in 1983 with Flash Dance with a Feeling.
This week in 1976, the number one hit was by Diana Ross.
I believe that this is part of the Motown disco list that
I was talking about earlier on Spotify, which I've now found.
It includes Love Train by the OJs, Off the Wall by Michael Jackson.
Let's see, Lou Rawls, You'll Never Find, Another Love Like Mine.
Diana Rosses, It's My House.
Michael Jackson's Rock With You.
It's got Shaka Khan on there.
Tavares, Berry White, Earth, Wind and Fire.
Yeah, this would work.
That's solid.
And welcome to another edition of Pat List's Song Titles.
This week in 1982, Rocky III hits the theaters, including the song Eye of the Tiger.
Initially, Sylvester Stallone wanted Queens.
Another one bites the dust, but he couldn't get permission to use it.
So he asked the Upstart Chicago Band survivor to write a song and Eye of the Tiger came from there.
I forgot to give you a request to bring up a little rock and roll Huchiku by Rick Derringer to mark his passing this week.
But Rick Derringer passed away, so we want to take note of that as well.
Again, kind of a slow week on the National Day calendar here.
This is National Paperclip Day.
Jesus.
paperclips.
Ooh, that's a big day.
That's great.
This is national alligator day and national snail day.
So imagine that you're a snail and it's like, Hey, you get your own day, but you got to share it with an alligator.
Great.
Thanks very much.
Appreciate it.
So much snail can ride on an alligator's back.
Okay.
It's called this when I call it.
Yes.
Yes.
That'll work.
That'll totally work for us.
Uh, all right.
So coming up in our next hour, we're going to be talking about.
the proposed Medicaid cuts in the Trump budget plan.
And we'll be talking to Jerry Jeremy Grager from Citizen Action and bringing along guest Sarah Ring about the real life ways that Medicaid is helpful to people in Wisconsin and across the country.
Here in Wisconsin, it's referred to as badger care.
It provides stable and affordable health care for a lot of working families.
And again, you've got a lot of Republicans spreading the fairy tale that
Everybody on Medicaid is some lazy oaf on their couch when it is, you know, one of the safety nets helping in a nation that far too often ties your health insurance coverage to employment.
And that just ain't right.
So we'll talk about the real impact that that would have on folks.
So that will be coming up two more hours to go as we get rolling through another one of these Thursday mornings powered by Up North News.
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