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Well, hey there, Wisconsin.
Good morning.
It is 6.06 on this Wednesday morning, May 28th, 2025.
It's another beautiful morning to have you here up north, live from Lake Wissota.
From wherever you're spending your mornings, listening across the Civic Media Radio network or on the app.
watching us on YouTube or Facebook or listening by podcast on Spotify or elsewhere.
Thanks for starting your day right here.
I've got a question for you.
If you were running for Congress or if you were running for a seat in the legislature and you won and you've already been in office for almost half a year, don't you think by now you'd have a plan for what it is that you want to do?
Because we know
that in Washington, there's still no federal budget.
The House passed something last week, but who knows how long it's going to take for the Senate and how long that's going to take.
But here's the thing, over in Madison, there's still no bill from Republicans who control the legislature.
We got Governor Tony Evers bill, and then they promptly stripped a whole bunch of stuff out of it, but we don't know what they're putting back in still.
We'll be talking to Dan Schaefer, Civic Media Political Editor during the show today about how there are all kinds of bills out there.
I think Senate Bill 280 is the number they're up to right now.
But Senate Bill 1 is still a blank piece of paper because we're still waiting for Republicans to tell us what is it you actually want to do, not what you're against, what you're for.
Also coming up, not that it's anything new for a congressman like Tom Tiffany who tried to get a court to throw out the will of Wisconsin voters in 2020, but Tom Tiffany continues to embrace authoritarian tactics like threatening a governor with investigations or even arrest.
We'll hear the latest comments from Tom Tiffany.
Let's see what else do we have happening here.
Earl Ingram will be in to talk about last week's remarks.
by Health and Human Services Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr.
claiming that a team was on the ground in Milwaukee to help with a lead paint crisis in schools and lead water pipes, and that was a big fat lie.
James Kelly will have a story out of Hayward reminding us that when schools go on summer break, some kids lose out on the one good meal they might get that day.
And we will see if there's any update on Melissa K's pigeon quest.
for a new pet.
Parker Olson is here as well in Madison.
Greg Bach joins us from Radio Park for what?
I don't get to use this word very often.
What is the penultimate show of Pat Crichtlow and Greg Bach at six o'clock in the morning before Parker takes the helm full time?
I believe that's starting Monday.
That was the last memo I saw anyway.
And I'm off Friday.
So for me and Greg, it's today and tomorrow.
And then he's, I believe
How does this work, Greg, when you're just working to co-host the show with Greg?
Does a limousine come pick you up like it does for me?
Picks me up, takes me over to this side of the house, and then I get into the door there.
Do you get that kind of treatment when you move up to just full-time co-host?
I get a 70-something Crown Victoria cop car, picks me up.
It takes me to a different place.
It's very odd every time.
I always say, bring me to radio park.
They're like, I'll take you where I'm going to take you.
And it's usually, usually like a parking ride somewhere in like Western Wisconsin County.
Now you've got me reminiscing because one of my earliest cars was not a Crown Victoria, but it was a 1978 Mercury Cougar XR7.
This thing was a.
battleship, but it was like it was kind of in that Crown Victoria design.
Just when
cars were long,
when cars were really long with rich Corinthian leather.
And I mean, it was used, obviously, and we didn't keep it for very long because it was burning oil like crazy.
Yeah.
But oh, it was, it was so comfortable.
It was so nice.
Parker, what was your first car?
Do you have a beater at all?
Is it the one you're driving now?
Yeah, well, it could be.
You're muted.
Oh, wait, I got to pop the control room on there.
I'm sorry.
Oh, there you go.
Good morning, Parker.
What was your first car?
Chevy Equinox.
That counts.
When I heard 2022, I'm like, come on, man.
That's not a beater.
But an Equinox came off the line as a beater.
So it's OK.
That works out well.
Dang.
So I know now all the Chevy dealers are going to be mad at me.
I'm sorry.
Where was I going with this?
Oh, I was talking with the limo
picking us up before the Crown Victoria
went over here.
Anyway, this is all to say that Greg with with my fingers crossed becomes part of the is it the pantheon of weekly guests like Melissa Kay coming up at 650 today and that, you know.
Yeah, I will come back you'll come back and visit.
Yeah, I'll be visiting from time to time but also be helping behind the scenes as well and certain
things of course
Parker will be taken over and as far as I know I will be supervising Tamara, but Parker's gonna be running.
I'll be here tomorrow The Parker will be running the show tomorrow.
So wait a minute.
You're
pressing all the buttons.
I'll
be here.
I'll be here if you're moving up in the supervisory ranks.
Does this make you
Handsome and capable.
Does Parker have to call you handsome and capable the way you refer to Luke Mathers all the time?
No, he said his voice gets really high.
That'd be
so,
that'd be funny.
He can call me, he can call me the ever tired and cranky, but the handsome cable.
That's a title saved only for Mr.
That's a level of sucking up.
It'll do you do.
Exactly.
Yeah.
That's my game.
Okay,
all
right.
Get your own compliments.
Parker will find his own way to compliment you.
Exactly.
All right, sounds good.
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Maybe you could put in the comment section how we can fix our video feed here because I've suddenly somehow lost the control to remove audio only feeds.
That's why for folks watching on social media, there's like this big black square, you know, right now on the screen.
So I don't know.
I like to think I stay on top of technology, but every so often technology wins.
It
just happened today.
Yeah, yesterday this
wasn't like this.
And I cannot find the setting where if it's audio only, you take that black box off the screen.
So anyway.
we now have a mystery black box trivia question for you based on today's up north news daily newsletter sign up for it at up north news wi.com today there's a couple of notes in there about hamburgers and you know who's got the best hamburgers in wisconsin but also who who sells the most and i will tell you the answer in madison they they compared uh what was it the the nitty gritty is it the plaza tavern and doddy dumplings dowry
Oh,
Dottie dumplings, a spoiler alert is at the top.
But you have you have an idea of how many burgers they sell a year on average?
12.
No, a little more than that.
So many.
About 100,000 burgers a year.
Well, what's so great about them?
I've never heard of this place.
Dottie
dumplings.
Yeah, it's good stuff.
Yeah, it's a great place.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, more words.
It's a good local burger joint.
And that's really what this is about.
And this is nothing against your Culver's, your McDonald's, all your other chains.
But this is about local, local burger joints.
Yeah.
And what, and what's your own favorite?
And I've said here many a time that, you know, I would go to a place like the, the Courtenhouse or
Oh, what's the other there?
There's some really good local burger joints, you know, just around here.
And I know, Greg, I've asked you at least once if down in the Kenosha area, if there's a local place that you like to go for a burger.
I'm not a burger dude.
So I'm not trying to think here.
I'm sure there are great burger places.
But there used to be a place in Milwaukee called stacked.
They had amazing burgers and like, that was the first time I ever had a stuffed burger and they're just, and they put a deep fried pickle on top of the bun and
their
fries were like, even though I'm not a huge fan of like thinner shoe, shoe string fries,
they
would give you so many that it definitely did the job.
So, and unfortunately they are no longer with us.
They're gone, but that was definitely great.
And Camino Milwaukee is also a very good burger joint.
Okay, and I neglected the amber in in Eau Claire as well.
It's just just amazing burgers Parker you got one where where you grew up or went to college or anything like that
Daddy dumplings was
daddy dumplings.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Well, what's what's so great about
it?
Tell Greg.
It's been so long, but I oh, I remember it.
Well, it's just get some get some
the memories of those burgers.
So, so tasty.
Yes.
My mouth is watering now, you guys.
See?
They got the juice in there.
They're good.
Dottie dumplings.
We get the juice in them.
It's true.
Roger writes from Steven's point, the best hamburgers are homemade.
Okay.
You never been to my house.
Uh, there used to be, so there's like, they're in, in the southeastern Wisconsin.
I don't know if you have them up there, but we have like place called cops.
KOPP.
And there was a place growing up called Murph's.
I think they're still around in Waukesha, but they used to have like what used to remember the old whopper.
Remember what the old whopper used to look like?
It was
big.
It looked like a heat.
It just was gigantic.
That's what Murph's was, but it was also heavy.
Like, you're like, oh, wow, this is, this has got half to and also, and also they had the juices.
If it's big, it's going to have juice.
Yes.
The thing, the thing that I liked about, uh, you know, the, the places I mentioned in Eau Claire is the grill.
I mean, that grill dates back, you know, there's
They scrape it all the time.
Don't get me wrong.
They clean it, but you know when a grill is properly seasoned I'm sure that I'm getting little bits of flavor that date back to when Benjamin Harrison was president I mean that bar has been around a long long
time burger tastes like the industrial revolution
When a burger was a burger and it had the juices.
Yeah Here's the thing about the juices though
And I don't want to throw anybody else's parents under the bus, but I'll certainly speak for mine.
They grew up in an era where there was all this focus on not on cooking your meat thoroughly.
And so it wasn't until I was an adult that I learned that hamburgers could be juicy, that steaks and pork chops
did not have to basically be like the tongue of a boot that you had just put on, that you did not necessarily have to turn it into a hockey puck.
Do you
know how my grandfather dealt with the potential of possibly eating dryer-esque foods?
How?
all of the grease he'd cook it in.
He just pour it right back onto the food.
See?
Yeah.
That's how you get the juices and cholesterol level of 314.
Yeah, they
were made of different material.
I swear to God, like he's, you know, he was made of dust bowl remnants and, you know, iron spikes.
It's just, yeah, I'd watch him and he'd have a cigarette hanging out of his mouth.
He'd be like, this is where the flavor comes from, boy.
That's like
that.
And the ashes that would flip off the cigarette and fall into it.
Parliament
in the morning.
What kind of burger you got there?
Benson and Hedges, you know?
I'm eating like
Virginia slives.
She's used a sawing a steak like industrial metals.
Yeah.
Not alone in all of this, which reminds me that over on the Upnotews website, beyond burgers, and specifically to Madison, we've put together a Madison food guide because we tried it as an experiment last year.
It was so popular.
We brought it back.
So while we cover news from all over the state, we found a very
welcoming audience for the food guide.
So head over to UpNorthNewsWI.com there and check out our Madison food guide with a whole, there's nearly a dozen different articles in there about restaurants and burgers and fish fries and all kinds of categories.
So anyway, when we come back, we will play the highlight that finished last night's Milwaukee Brewer's game.
You're going to want to hear it.
went pretty well in extra innings against the Boston Red Sox and Tom Tiffany makes another threat against Governor Evers.
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Let me set up
The 10th inning of the Milwaukee Brewers game against the Boston Red Sox.
Actually, let me go back to the ninth inning here, where Boston was up 1-0, which by the way, they shouldn't have been up 1-0, but Aaron Ashby was just throwing garbage last night.
Anyway, Christian Yelich tied the game in the ninth inning with an opposite field double and later scored on a self-freelake base hit.
And that took us to the 10th inning, where
Let's see, Joey Ortiz was the automatic base runner at second, and then Bryce Terrang lined a base hit that moved Ortiz to third, and then Jackson Churio walked to load the bases.
One out later, Christian Yelich was back up at the plate.
The count was one ball and one
strike.
I cannot believe that was actually, yes, the first ever walk-off home run for Christian Yelich and it was a grand slam.
That's a pretty good way to do that.
And so what had been a 1-1 game, Brewers win 5-1 over the Red Sox last night.
I had a friend who went there to the game last night
Are those not the happiest posts when something like that happens and she's just like, uh, first per game and I get a grand slam.
So good for them.
Good for all those.
I loved watching the crowd go wild because I was so long asleep by then.
So that's always a nice thing to wake up to, you know,
I need to go to a baseball game.
I've been saying that for months now.
I miss it so much.
Here's the thing.
You can do that right here.
Brewers against Boston.
Coverage starts at 11.35 on Civic Media Stations.
Your show runs with Jane 9 to 11.
So this time's all perfectly.
Game's at, I think, 12.15, something like that.
So there you go.
You want me to write you a note?
Yes.
Do you think the note will work?
I want to get my butt to a game.
That's what I want to do is I want to sit in the stands.
I want to pay $38 for a
OK beer.
You're really selling it now.
Someday I'll buy the
helmet nachos.
I've never had the helmet nachos.
You got to have that.
I'm still a kid at heart.
You got to have 30
dollars.
You know if you're going to go to a game you're going to go to the game.
That's true.
That's how it works.
Adam writes on YouTube these types of endings.
That's what makes tuning in on a random Tuesday night game worth it.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
It's what what's why put it on in the background until I can't stay awake anymore.
So anyway, so there you go Brewers are playing again this afternoon and you can catch that on several civic media stations here.
All right, let's talk about Congressman Tom Tiffany.
We've got some audio here of him being on upfront on WISN TV and Matt Smith asking him as a member of the House Judiciary Committee.
about this talk from the Trump administration that they would consider investigating or even arresting Governor Tony Evers.
What dastardly crime did he commit, you ask?
None.
He provided a memo to state employees that says, hey, if there's an immigration raid at your workplace, call a lawyer.
Have a lawyer on site for legal advice.
And for that, a Trump administration official put out a veiled threat to arrest, and now here's Tom Tiffany saying, yeah, maybe the Judiciary Committee will investigate him.
What type of repercussions could the Judiciary Committee or the DOJ, I guess, impose on the governor when it appears that he just advised state employees to call an attorney first?
That was Tammy Baldwin also talking to Matt Smith on upfront on WISN TV.
And I mean, that is, that is his classic.
Tom Tiffany, Trump intimidation as it gets.
Well, he may not have broken the law, but he stepped up to the line.
And that's it.
If you step out of line, we will threaten to arrest you.
And what will you do about that?
I won't do anything.
You got to talk to the other guy.
The other
guy will
do something, possibly.
I'll ask him.
I don't know.
Ask the borders
are.
Yeah.
But I can still put out the veiled threat that my committee is going to investigate you.
You know, the same way that Ron Johnson has a committee threatening to investigate, you know, Joe Biden for daring to get cancer.
Oh, I thought he was investigating 9 11 again.
Well, oh, yeah, there was that as well.
Again, one distraction after the other.
And so this is the latest one again from Tom Tiffany.
And look, if you can't
just say he didn't break the law, we don't like what he said, then I guess where you go with is you continue to make the the failed threats and that's not something that we should be tolerating in this country but it's again not a surprise from Tom Tiffany.
This is somebody who frankly should have had the the good sense to resign from Congress shortly after January 6th.
When he signed on to a lawsuit out of Texas that if successful would have thrown out Wisconsin's election results from 2020 Just the presidential ones not the same election that he got elected to Congress in but just the one for the presidential race and Since that time we I mean we called on him right away at up north news to you know resign or be removed from office because if you
If you can't have that basic understanding of respecting the right of the voters and not simply going along with a plan to topple an election, you shouldn't be a congressional representative.
But this is how Tom Tiffany operates and why we wanted to share again his view of continuing Trump's intimidation tactic to try to
squash as much descent as possible, especially when it comes to their mass deportation policy.
We'll continue here in just a bit.
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More from Chippewa Falls after the Midwest Farm Report here on the Civic Media Radio Network.
I'm Pat Krightlum.
Welcome back at 635.
I'm Pat Crite Low live from Chippewa Falls across the Civic Media radio network.
And for folks listening earlier, we were having a little issue with video on social media, which we managed to fix over the break.
And so Shizyu says, Pat is the next tinkerbell tinkering and solving stuff.
Shizyu, I don't, I don't think, I don't think tinkerbell is where I want to go with that.
But thank you for saying that I tinker and solve stuff.
That's me.
I'm a tinkerer.
I think really hard about these things.
Oh
my god.
Shiju also says it makes me, wow, okay, is this thing on?
Here we go.
Shiju says it makes me appreciate Harvard for offering free government related courses to teach people that someone like Tom Tiffany is incorrect.
And I love that, hearing that Harvard is gonna be offering more free online classes, that somebody, somebody is finally standing up to a bully and saying,
bring it because President Trump yesterday was again saying, talking about canceling all further, you know, federal contracts with Harvard, keeping in mind again, this isn't some kind of a giveaway.
All right.
This is research that the government isn't doing, but wants the answers to things like, you know, drug interactions and things like that, that they contract with these universities that have the research labs so that the government doesn't have to buy the equipment and everything else.
to get this done.
When you end all of these studies, like you do at the National Institute of Health and everything else, as well as colleges like Harvard and others, the research just stops.
You don't find the answers to things.
And what's more is that you've got Trump then saying, well, I'll probably give that money all to trade schools, you know, meaning technical colleges.
Everybody knows what that is.
You're exacerbating and trying to a class divide.
You're again trying to say well, let's just pit all of the all of blue collar America against white collar America and talk about those You know those those people in their ivory towers in these universities and trashing the whole notion of education When there is obviously a need for both we need to support the trades
in our tech colleges as well as our liberal arts universities as well as worker training and everything else but to simply pit one against the other to get them to ignore the way that you're giving breaks to billionaires to send all that blue collar worker money up the ladder is is just sad and repugnant but that's exactly how it's operating and that's the kind of thing I feel like we should be exposing
on programs like this.
So thank you she's you for reminding me to say a few words about the the Trump war on Harvard and on education in general.
There is a note over on the up north through social media pages about a bipartisan bill in the Wisconsin legislature that would allow pharmacists to prescribe birth control pills and patches.
The bill would
According to the author, Republican Joel Kitchens of Surgeon Bay, allow women to have more choices in reproductive health care and decrease the number of unplanned pregnancies and abortions.
Kitchens says it will save taxpayers dollars and reduce generational poverty.
Tanya Atkinson of Planned Parenthood Advocates says we support people being able to access birth control more readily.
That's one of our big commitments, health equity.
Being able to access care is critical.
the bill was also supported by other medical groups as well and again has bipartisan support.
Whether we'll pass or not is is another matter entirely.
There have been plenty of bipartisan bills that don't pass and I wanted to talk just a bit about that because again speaking as a as a former legislator and as somebody who's covered the legislature for years these kind of bills come up in every session.
They're what
we call scope of practice legislation.
And you might also call it the stay in your lane bill if you wanted to, depending on the topic.
There are times when people are very turf driven like that, you know, they want to protect their turf at all costs, even though it may be that somebody else could do their job or at least some of their job.
And that's part of what this one is about is saying, look, can pharmacists listen to a customer and say, yes, birth control pills would be the right thing for you.
And here they are.
Or if this is the kind of thing that should come from a doctor.
Now, one thing to keep in mind in this particular instance is that there is already a so-called mini pill, progestin only.
It's available without a prescription.
You don't even need a pharmacist for it.
You can just buy it right over the counter.
And it is designed to help prevent pregnancy when taken daily at the same time.
And it cannot emphasize that enough that this is one of those meds you have to stay on and you have to take it consistently.
But some doctors will tell you they can tell with their patients by doing what's a history and physical.
And when they're doing that H&P and they're taking down what this person's saying about themselves,
It can sometimes be pretty clear that some folks are not good about staying on their meds, on their prescriptions.
Certainly more than a few people haven't taken their birth control properly and required the services of an OBGYN.
And so sometimes those doctors will catch something in that regard.
They will catch other things where there could be drug interactions.
And then beyond the doctors, let's talk about the pharmacist for a second.
There's nothing against the pharmacists.
They are hardworking.
They are stretched thin.
The ranks have been depleted.
There is a labor shortage in all kinds of areas.
Pharmacists included.
Along with everything else pharmacists are doing.
I'm quite confident there are some pharmacists who are looking at this bill.
Maybe a few are saying yeah we could do that.
I'm sure there are also a few going
Please don't give me something else to do.
I don't need somebody showing up at my window saying, give me birth control pills when I'm sure I want this person to see their doctor first.
So I'm not here to say that this bill is necessarily bad.
I'm giving it as one example of many of these scope of practice bills where you really have to look at it carefully, look beyond just the talking points at the beginning of the bill.
and say, is this really good policy?
Is this, in fact, gonna make people's lives more convenient and do so safely?
Some bills like that are no-brainers, like, yep, absolutely, this person could be doing that job as well.
Others take a little bit more thought, and so...
I saw that on the Up North News Facebook page.
And while it does have bipartisan support, it doesn't mean it's going to pass.
And I thought I'd share some of the concerns that go both ways on a bill like that.
Another story we're following is from I'm getting these details from Wisconsin Watch, but I've certainly seen it in other Wisconsin media as well.
And this is out of Adams County, which is working to replace the treasurer.
who was rightfully elected, removed that treasurer and replaced the treasurer with the person the treasurer beat in the last election.
Adams County has filed suit to ask a court to declare that their current treasurer, Kara Dolizal, vacated her position and that her former opponent, Kim Meinhardt, is quote, entitled to hold that office.
Basically, the court wants, or the county wants the court to sign off on a resolution that the Adams County Board approved in late April.
But if you think that that resolution sounds ridiculous, well, A, you're right, and B, guess who else thinks it's ridiculous?
That these conservative board members did this.
A state representative from that area, a Republican state representative from that area, Scott Krug.
who argued during and after the County Board meeting that the county was following an illegal process to remove an elected official.
So, Dolezal, a Republican, defeated Mineheart, who ran as an independent by more than 900 votes last year, according to Wisconsin Watch.
But now, fast forward to this past April to last month, Dolezal
was also re-elected to her post as the town treasurer for the town of Lincoln in Adams County.
That's a position that she held prior to being elected to county wide office.
In the county board resolution and in the lawsuit, Adams County is arguing that Dole is all vacated her county office by accepting a legally incompatible position with the town.
But that's not
Something that is that unusual even Krug the Republican assembly rep notes It's long been common in Wisconsin for people to hold similar offices for both the county and their local town
He says he's working with fellow legislators to introduce a bill that would clarify that it is possible for the same person to hold positions as county and town treasurer at the same time if both are elected positions.
And that's the important thing to note.
You're going to the voters and saying, Hey, you know, I'm doing this.
Can I also do that?
Kruger told Wisconsin Watch we are going to specifically going to say that there is no contradiction or incompatibility between the role of county treasurer and town treasurer when both are elected by people in their community.
He says lawmakers are trying to do so without interfering with the court's process.
Dolezal has continued to perform her duties as county treasurer after the county board's vote even though mine heart took an oath of office for the position
on May 12th.
And so after these folks on the county board heard from a fellow Republican saying, this is not a problem.
There's not a conflict here.
The county board went ahead anyway and said, nope, we want to remove this person from office, the county treasurer.
We want to replace her with the person that she defeated in the election.
and claim that there is a conflict that legally does not appear to exist.
And so as much as they look like they want to win on the merits of their arguments, the arguments seem rather meritless and there seems to be more at play here.
And that's, again, always troubling.
When politicians, and yes, when you're elected to a county board, you're now a politician, when politicians try to interfere with election results that they don't agree with.
You don't have to like that this person, your county treasurer is also a town treasurer, but you do have to accept it because there is nothing blatantly illegal about it at this point.
And when that's the case, you know, you can give an oath of office to somebody else.
You can file a lawsuit if you want, but there's no indications at this point that a court is going to go along with that.
It seems like a lot of drama for very little reward.
And yet this is what's happening in Adams County right now.
The Wisconsin Supreme Court recently said that a Dane County judge who had been, who left court to try to arrest a hospitalized defendant is going to be suspended for a week.
The court agreed with a judicial conduct review panel suspension recommendation for Ellen Burrs.
finding that she deserved more than a reprimand because she behaved impulsively and showed a lack of restraint.
The suspension will begin on June 26th.
The justices in the suspension order noted that Ellen Burrs acknowledged the facts of the case and has accepted full responsibility.
The Judicial Commission filed a misconduct complaint against Burrs, the Dane County Judge in October,
accusing her of failing to promote public confidence and judicial impartiality, failing to treat people professionally, and failing to perform her duties without bias.
According to the complaint, BERS was presiding over an OWI case in December of 2021.
The defendant didn't show up in court on the day the trial was set to begin.
His attorney told BERS the defendant had been admitted to a hospital.
Burs had a staff member investigate.
The bailiff couldn't leave the courthouse to make the arrest.
So Burs said she would retrieve the defendant herself.
She left the court and began driving to the emergency room, eventually turned around and did not make the arrest, but still faces now that one week suspension.
We will have today's history lesson coming up and Melissa K's pigeon quest after this.
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I'll take her version.
I've heard it through the grapevine.
Just fine.
Thank you very much.
Today's history lesson is brought to you by the number 81 because Gladys Knight of Atlanta, Georgia is 81 years old today.
And so is the next person we're going to hear from and the next person and somebody after that.
By the way, the pips of Gladys Knight and the pips made up of a brother and some cousins.
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, class of 1996.
Happy birthday to her.
Melissa K is with us.
She's not 81.
She's a little bit younger, but she's on a scale of one to 81.
On a scale of one to 80, she's an 81 to us.
So there you go.
Mostly because she gives us all these great things to talk about.
Like how's the quest for a pigeon going, Melissa?
I've put in a new inquiry for bell pepper.
All right.
The bird's name is Pep, and bell pepper, and seems very cute.
My cage arrives on Friday, and then I'm going, and today I'm
stopping by.
My cage arrives on Friday.
Yep, we're locking up Melissa for the crime of wanting a pigeon, you know?
No,
and
then I'm getting, I'm stopping at a friend's house to get some wood that he saved for me so I can build some pigeon purges.
Ah, the pigeon purges.
Now the thing that everybody is really wondering about for the past seven days here.
Do you have the pigeon pants yet?
Well, no, because I need to know what size my pigeon is.
Now,
Pat, you can't buy pigeon pants if you don't know what size the pigeons are.
It could have like really thick
thighs.
I'm imagining this little tailor, you know, just putting that tape measure around those little tiny legs.
That's
exactly what you have.
It's not the legs.
It's the body and the distance from the back of the neck to the base of the tail.
And
I'm gonna make them myself.
Did you know all this information before like say two weeks ago or did you just?
I've been researching this for like the last two months.
Oh boy.
Wow.
Are these like suspenders?
Like can they go around the over the top of the wings?
They
do.
They go up over the top.
Yep.
Oh dear.
I love this.
They're
so cute.
I love this.
We're just gonna do a pigeon podcast based on this.
All right, we'll come back to this.
I got more birthdays to get to.
Glad this night is 81 years old today.
So is Billy Vera of Billy Vera and the Beaters.
Slow skate, everyone.
Slow skate.
81
years old Billy Vera.
Here's one more who was born this day in 1944 and that would be from CCR John Fogarty So this guy that wrote proud Mary and of course Tina Turner did have did a number with it as well He's listed on Rolling Stones list of 100 greatest songwriters
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, of course.
Bad moon rising, fortunate sun.
Green river down on the corner.
Cool stop, the rain.
Center field.
Pretty good career.
Yeah, you know, he's up and comer.
Well,
yeah.
Yep.
All
right.
So, so there you go.
Glad it's night 81 today.
Billy Vera 81 today.
John Fogarty 81 today.
Last and definitely least.
Rudy Giuliani born that same day.
Is 81 years old today.
Yeah.
So we are going to quickly move on.
One more
birthday.
Kylie Minogue is 57 years old today.
This song just doesn't make you want to do it.
Just all you just.
Yep.
Yep.
There you go, Greg.
That's right.
Little infectious here.
Parker, you don't even know
the dance moves that
happened.
Oh,
yes.
Let's see, on this day in 1892 in San Francisco, John Muir founded the Sierra Club.
Oh, look who shares a birthday with Rudy Giuliani.
Little Marco Rubio is 54 years old today.
Yep.
Let's see if we can save this here.
Colby Calais is 39, or I'm sorry, she turns 40 years old today.
That's how you say her last name, Kelly.
I believe so.
Okay, because I always called her Colby Colotte.
No
Kelly.
She was born in Malibu.
Her father, Ken, was a co-producer on three Fleetwood Mac albums, Rumors, Tusk, and Mirage.
She was born in Malibu and her dad's name was Ken.
It's like the movie writes itself, you know?
Yep.
Let's see, one more birthday.
Kirk Gibson turned 68 today, a former LA Dodger.
And baseball fans know that from Jack Buck's famous call when Kirk Gibson hit a 3-2 pitch off Dennis Hecker's leave for a walk off 5-4 World Series win all those years ago when Jack Buck said, I don't believe what I just saw.
And that, of course, would be, again, Kirk Gibson on two bad legs limping around after hitting that home run.
Let's see, national day calendar today.
I don't have... There's Save Your Tooth Month?
No.
No.
No.
No.
You're in first
grade.
Yes, sure.
Yeah, there's a tooth fairy thing.
This is national brisket day.
This is National Hamburger Day, which is why Christina put the story in the newsletter that we talked about earlier.
So today's International Day of Action on Women's Health.
So take advantage of that.
This is Senior Health and Fitness Day.
And finally it is National or Worldwide Whooping Crane Day.
But forget the whooping cranes.
Let's get back to the pigeons here for a minute.
So what's the next step here
now?
Wait, listen to Pigeon's cooing.
So yes, the cage for my pigeon, not me, will arrive on Friday.
I'm super excited to get it set up and build the things.
But it takes about three weeks to hear back from.
But I did get an email back from the
Pigeon rescue.
Three weeks?
How much of a background check do they need
on you?
Did you have to
put a little
message on a pigeon's leg and send it off to the back?
Is that how that works?
We sent away to WFHR to get all the latest and see if she'd be a good pigeon parent.
Well they have over like almost 200 birds that are out there that need adoption and
they're just a
backlog of getting people.
I think just want to make sure that you're not in this just for like I said for a good meal.
Two more hours to go as we get rolling on another one of these Wednesday mornings powered by Up North News.
I'm Pat Krightlow.
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