Can’t Cut Our Way to Prosperity (Hour 2)

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Well, hey there, Wisconsin.

Good morning.

It is 6.06.

It is Tuesday morning, May 20th, I think, depending on what side of the international date line my...

brain is on right now.

It is another beautiful morning to have you here up north live from Lake Wissota from wherever you're spending your mornings listening across the Civic Media radio network or on the Civic Media app, watching us on YouTube or Facebook, maybe listening later on by podcast.

Thank you for starting your day right here.

I've got one of well, many questions throughout the course of the next three hours.

Starting with, could I get a recommendation for a Sherpa to help me scale Laundry Mountain?

because we got back from our vacation in Europe last night.

And that was after being awake for 22 hours of constant travel and flights across the ocean.

And a lot of times we'll empty out our bags and go, okay, we'll attack Laundry Mountain in the morning.

Didn't even get to that point.

We just dropped the bags at it right to sleep.

And all bright-eyed and bushy-tailed right now because somebody's body clock thinks it's noon.

as it would be in Portugal but instead we're getting our day started here with day one back and I want to thank everybody who helped make sure that the train continued to run on time not the least of which would be our friend back at Radio Park Gregorian Aloysius Bachmeister who did

I guess the term is yeoman's duties filling in.

It's been a long time, but we I know we explored the term yeoman's duties once and it is a compliment.

So that's all that's all I got to offer is my fancy European word after being around, you know, Moorish castles and and other Roman ruins throughout the past week or so here.

How are you?

I'm doing well.

I cannot complain.

Things are going good and we're just rocking and rolling along.

But yeah, it was.

It was a fun week.

Lots going on.

And thank you to Matt Rothschild, Angela Lang, Chad Holmes, and Dr. Kristen Lierly, who her and I make up the spectacular duo of Bach and the Doc.

Tell me you use that throughout the course of the day yesterday.

Oh, yeah, as much as possible.

As long as I wasn't interrupting or it wasn't like, you know, yeah, no, no, it

happened.

Nice.

Good.

Yes.

Thanks to Chris and Kristen.

Now I didn't stay all up to speed on everybody's, you know, social posts or headlines, but Kristen had had a lot going on these past couple of weeks as well,

but

still found time to fill in here.

Let's see.

Alicia says on YouTube, welcome home Pat.

Tony says, Matthias, Patrick, quite low.

Good to have you back.

Well, it's close enough.

He says, I think the technical term is Greg crushed it.

All right.

All right.

Let's calm down.

You also missed Davison and the dock.

Davison and the dock that was happening as well.

Yep.

What was that?

What was that?

Sam, your third hour produced.

That's his last name.

Oh, oh, salmon.

OK, gotcha.

I think I was saying salmon, the dock, but whatever, they can tell whatever they want.

Yeah, that's fine.

And

the people have

spoken.

Thank you for the kind words on YouTube as well.

It was, you're gonna get plenty of vacation chatter today because what few times I looked at the headlines back here at home did not make a list of, wow, I can't wait to talk about that.

Instead, here's the thing.

So many times Americans who travel to Europe come back and they are insufferable.

We're there.

They're basically saying, where did our country go wrong?

Why can't we have nice things?

People, if I'm given just an empty microphone for the next two hours and 50 minutes, I'm going to be in the exact same category because you look around there at quality of life and everything else and you go, what?

What is the thing here?

And the thing here is always freedom.

Freedom.

We don't need no metric system, even though it's easier.

We don't need high speed rail, even though it's easier to move people around.

We don't need health care for everybody, even though it would be health care for everybody.

So it was one of those trips where you go.

We got work to do when I get back.

All those socialist, communist countries out there giving people free healthcare and free education.

They're just, they're falling apart.

And they're not.

If anybody's falling apart, it would be the country that didn't keep up.

And I'm not, I'm not coming back here to, to trash America, but I definitely have some opinions on

How did I put it once when making notes?

Stop being babies.

And I'll tell you what, if I'm gonna go off on any one thing about it, I will start with the metric system.

Stop being babies about those like, oh, we've always used feet and miles.

You've seen the Nate Bargassi sketch on Saturday Night Live.

mocking us for that.

I should have, no, that should have been my red flag back in the mid to late 70s when Americans were like, we're not gonna change.

Like, oh, this is an omen of things to come.

You

know, stop being babies about some of these things that would make our lives better.

But you can only, you can only lead a horse to water so much.

So Tony says, oh no, did you come back to a socialist pat?

Never really left.

in that way, shall we say?

It's all good.

Pat Alicia says on YouTube, we could absolutely do so much better.

I love my country and change can be a bad thing, I said cleaning upper language, but we need it and we can be so much better.

And I mean, that's that's what it is.

But let's let's take the geopolitics out of this for a moment.

And, you know, just just talk about

being away.

And this was the whole point of my trip away was for a dear friend getting married, somebody that I'd worked with at the TV station here in Eau Claire.

And she has been through many ups and downs in her life.

And finally found happiness with this guy, this great guy.

I mean, you know, Greg, you've been to a wedding and you go, Wow, how did these two people find each other?

Could it be any more perfect?

Yeah, I mean, our own of

course, too.

Oh, I mean, I've been thinking about my wife this whole time.

That's how much I like it.

And I'm not even saying that to be funny or anything.

Like I am so I am I am that guy that you saw at the wedding and went, really?

She's picked him.

Him?

Yeah,

that weird.

That's exactly how I look back and I think of because we were so young.

Yeah, all the people going, don't don't buy him anything engraved, you know,

any

goodness.

And, but here we are 40

years later.

There you go.

So, so I was thrilled when they asked me to be the, the celebrant, the efficient, whatever you want to call it.

So that was my, I had a gig while I was away.

It was marrying these two wonderful people.

Yeah.

That's great.

I've done, I've, I've done, I've married a, I married a bunch of people, but most of them like quick type of things, you know, just very, very fast sign thing.

But I did do one ceremony and it was.

So good.

It was so fun.

Oh, and I knew that they, they were like, now it's not going to be overtly, you know, traditional, but we've, we've all also been to weddings that are like, you know, five minute affairs and you're like, well, let's, let's do a little bit more than that.

And they somehow they knew that I could be counted on to, you know, time this out with a few comments about them and about marriage and, you know, as they say in Princess Bride and everything else.

And

I, you know, I would like to think that I did all right at that.

So I'm very happy about that.

So we'll talk more about the trip.

We will certainly get caught up on other things like Hans Brighton Moser will be by as he always is on Tuesdays at 730.

Chad Holmes will be along.

Again, thank you for filling in Chad.

And we'll talk about, we'll talk about health care as well.

And he may have mentioned already, some of his own health care notes, just a note to all all men of a certain age, get checked up.

get checked up.

It's a very good thing.

Yeah, like, make sure gentlemen, you know, certain age, you get the colonoscopy, get the prostate check.

If they send you a sleep study, you do the sleep study for your health, because it's important.

I feel seen.

It could

maybe getting some life changing help.

And

okay,

don't just play it off and be like, meh.

And then like, don't ever talk about it again.

What now?

Oh, sorry.

I was I wasn't talking to you, Pat.

Okay.

Okay.

So here's a story.

So I'm at this winery for the, for like a reception thing the day before the wedding and my phone rings.

And it's the one time my phone rang and it gave the name of the clinic.

And I thought, okay, that's fine.

I let it roll the voicemail and you can see the text of the voicemail.

And the text of the voicemail says this is so and so calling back with an urgent message about your, you know, upcoming appointment.

When you hear urgent message and you took a sleep study, you know, that's designed to find health problems and you're not sure that the sleep study went well and you see urgent message, are you gonna wait, you know, five days until you're back in the States or are you gonna call right away?

So I called right away and this person says, well, yes, we've had a change in the schedule and we can move you up earlier and see you earlier.

I'm like, so you're saying there's no, there's no like,

Imminent emergency like my heart's not about to explode or something.

Um, this is not urgent and I will call you back next week.

Yeah.

And I'm, I'm usually not that abrupt on the phone with folks, but don't say something's urgent and a follow up to a healthcare thing.

And it's just about changing the appointment date.

Okay.

There was one thing I want to vent about today.

So while we brought that up, but I will, I will be following up today on the sleep study.

Okay.

Yeah.

Holy shun YouTube says Patrick as I look over the top of my glasses.

I was doing that wasn't I?

Yes, I yeah, so yeah, but we're we're we're now the vacation's over We're getting back on track for that getting it taken care of because again the little Apple watch iPhone thing I'll look at it like I did again this morning.

It'll go Yeah, you're not dead yet.

Good deal.

You should follow up on that good job

Yes, so I will.

And we'll talk to Chad Holmes about that.

Did I get to Dan Schaeffer?

No, I didn't.

Dan Schaeffer will be here as well at 830.

And not only will we talk about things like the Republican State Convention over the weekend and other things in Wisconsin, but we will get a little, shall we say geopolitical, we'll get a little international here.

Yeah, I know.

Well, because, and I mentioned this in our weekend newsletter that I had sent out while I was away, that

Not only was this a wedding over the weekend in Portugal, but it was also Portugal's national elections.

And so everywhere in Portugal, especially around Lisbon, were billboards with all the various candidates.

And here's the thing, and it actually leads to our question of the week here.

We think two political parties, not a great system here.

And I would be the first to say, yeah, you're probably right.

Portugal is going through something that other countries have gone through as well.

They have something like 10 different political parties.

And the plus side of that is you try to cobble together a coalition at any given point based on where the voters say that we where they want you to go.

But sometimes the voters give you such mixed results that no group of parties can put together a coalition.

They have two main parties, but

You know people there are enough people dissatisfied with both of them that some are going to like this far right Trumpist like party

others

are going far left almost, you know socialist Parties that they have there and in the end the oxygen results were much like they are here So evenly divided that nobody knows where we supposed to go with this Meanwhile in Poland and in Romania much like in Canada a couple of weeks back the Trump wannabe candidates

were dealt setbacks.

Basically people have looked at Trump and said, we don't want that here.

So we're going to talk to Dan Schaefer a bit about how, how is it that Trumpism is holding on in the United States with, you know, because it's the guy named Donald Trump, whereas everybody else who says, Hey, let's do the things Trump does.

They go, I don't think, I don't think so.

We don't need that.

Yeah.

So we'll talk to Dan Schaefer about that.

We'll talk a bit about sports, the weather.

I've got Brittany Merlos forecast here that I will rattle off as well.

And then she'll be here a little after the seven o'clock and the eight o'clock news as well.

Tony says, you've come back so cultured.

Yes.

Yes, I have so, so much culture.

I'm dripping with culture over here.

Oh, sorry.

Made a mess with my culture.

Didn't mean to do that.

So we will continue the, what we do here.

live from Lake Wissota.

Thanks for making this a place to spend part of your mornings on the Civic Media Radio Network.

I'm Peck Rightlaw.

Hey, welcome back.

It's a Tuesday morning.

It's May 20th, 2025.

And this is the week leading to Memorial Day weekend, isn't it?

I've been so focused on the vacation thing that

there's a big

holiday weekend coming up here.

Are you sounding tired before the holiday weekend even starts?

No, I just forgot.

There's work to be done here before because we're not going to be here on Monday, so I have to.

Oh, that's right.

That's yes.

The holidays, holidays are great.

Don't get me wrong, but for both for civic media radio shows and for us at Up North News, it means, hey, you can have the day off, but you're going to need to prepare some content ahead of time that we're going to post on the holiday, whether it's a radio show or a newsletter or whatever.

And so it is, it is the old saying, no good vacation goes unpunished.

And

that's

exactly what we're facing here.

So yes, we do have that.

But, you know,

positive thoughts.

It's a

great, it's a, it's a, it's a good long weekend coming up.

We will remember those who gave their lives in service of our country.

We

will

spend time with our families.

We will welcome, we will welcome the changing season and the coming of summer right after March leaves because here's the email from Brittany Merleau.

Welcome back.

I hope the trip was wonderful.

As for the forecast, blah.

And here's your forecast.

Heavy rain rolls into the state alongside gusty winds, knocking us down well below average for high temperatures today and battling a wind chill too.

Here's the forecast for today across the state.

Heavy rain, especially in southern Wisconsin, lighter rain working its way north.

Windy highs will be near 50 in the southwestern part of the state and near Lake Michigan.

Upper fifties up north and east wind at 20 to 30 miles an hour.

I had to get used to that driving home last night was seeing we have one of those big old flags at one of the workplaces here.

And you don't normally see that thing blowing out of the east to begin with.

And then like completely straight out, you know, and that's what it was with this 20 to 30 mile an hour east wind.

Breezy and wet tonight, still chances of rain lows in the low to mid forties and an east wind at 15 to 25.

We actually we turned the furnace off.

before we left on this trip.

Cause remember 10 days ago, it was like pushing 80 all the time.

It

was

feeling great.

We had to come in first thing we had to do is throw the furnace back on cause it was so cold in the house here because that's where, that's where we are now with the weather.

Oh well, so anyway, what do we have right now here?

45 degrees here in Chippewa Falls and Brittany will be along and just a little bit to give us the full details on the forecast here.

Somewhere buried in all of these notes as I try to get back into the swing of things is the Brewers.

I was listening a bit on the radio.

William Contreras had a great game, went four for four and then he broke a tie in the eighth inning with a two out single.

The Brewers won five to four last night.

over the Baltimore Orioles.

For the Os, it's their seventh consecutive loss.

But Bryce Durang had a great two-out walk, stole second, and then Contreras hit a shot to pass the shortstop to bring home Durang.

Contreras singled in the first inning.

He doubled in the third and the fifth.

He walked in the sixth.

His four-hit game matches a career high.

Milwaukee's Abner Uribe earned the win by working a scoreless eighth inning.

And let's see, the baseball action rolls on here.

Let's see if I...

You know what?

I didn't put my notes down on that.

I tell you, it's just there's just the guy comes back from vacation and he's just falling apart.

So I can tell you we're playing Baltimore again today and then again tomorrow afternoon.

So I'll get the exact game times for you.

But again, you can hear the brewers across the Civic Media radio network and we'll have details on that in a little later on as we come in through the show.

The Up North News daily newsletter is out as it is every weekday morning at this time.

Christina Laurie puts it together and here's the thing about, she talks about the Badgers and you're gonna what?

The football, the basketball, the university?

No, the animal.

Apparently at this time of year, they like to flip from their stomachs to their backs and stay awake for most of the day.

So we're learning all about the Badger here and how things change in warmer weather.

which we're still hoping to get.

There's also an article here on whether Uber or parking at the airport is the better deal at some of the busiest airports in America and a bit about why the Trump administration wants to kill PBS.

which I did take note that Sesame Street has been rescued, I guess, by Netflix after being on HBO Max for the past several years here.

And so people have been passing around an old West Wing clip.

Okay, to be honest, I see a lot of West Wing clips in my video.

If you know how it is, you click on one thing and suddenly they just keep feeding you more.

Clearly it must have clicked on the one from two cathedrals, one of the great West Wing episodes, but I've been getting West Wing clips ever since.

And there was one that came up yesterday was making the rounds about cutting PBS and the whole notion of that there's, you know, is PBS elitist?

Fact-based educational programming and culture, there's nothing elitist about it.

The better question is why aren't more

Americans watching and supporting the things that broadcast television won't otherwise provide.

I don't mean to open up an entire discussion thread here on the merits of, you know, publicly funded public radio and TV.

But I have I have lived in a place where the only commercial TV station eventually went out of business.

And the only option was the government run radio station.

You don't want that and I'm not saying that it happened overnight here But you've got to have a you've got to have a full range of media options that includes publicly supported media as well as one that where you have a media landscape that isn't owned by you know just the the millionaires and billionaires in other words It's it's not elitist

to embrace education and culture.

Look at me, Greg.

I'm ended on culture again

here.

It's it's just it's the it's the European in me.

So clearly what I need to do during this break here is brew a little espresso.

Which, hmm, or some clearly

I am missing a tea, you know, something like that.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

That could

be that could be it as well.

So we will continue to roll on here with my thanks for spending some time here as part of your mornings powered by Up North News.

We will have more live from Chippewa Falls after the Midwest Farm Report here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

I'm Pat Crite.

Welcome back at 6 35 on this Tuesday morning made 20th pack right low here in Chippewa Falls Gregbocket Radio Park in the Greater Milwaukee area and Luke Mathers clearly joining as well because adding at the text line he copies in the the brewers notes so that I would have them in front of me that you can catch the brewers versus the Orioles coverage starts at 6 0 5 this evening on Civic Media stations in Richland Center Oshkosh Racine

Kenosha Park Falls and of course Hayward and then tomorrow's matinee coverage begins at 11 35 in the morning before the Brewers leave town for a trip in Pittsburgh Luke Mathers is like our security blanket, you know, so he's like our teddy bear, you know, he's right there.

Mm-hmm.

I agree.

He's like a teddy rock spin where he just sits there looking cute most of the time but sometimes you pull his string

And then he he's either helpful or point of order

pat point of order pat.

Yeah.

Teddy Ruxman didn't have a string.

You put a tape in his back and you played it and he sang to you.

So get

your

toy facts straight.

Sorry.

Sorry.

And Tony reminds us like Teddy Ruxman so handsome and capable.

Yeah.

So we appreciate that much very much.

Mr. Mathers where I will again remind you.

that brewers and Orioles coverage starts 6 0 5 and then 11 35 tomorrow morning.

Do you try to get into how do I tell this next part of my vacation story?

And I have no I have to start with the McRib from McDonald's.

Oh,

that's my favorite Irish meat sandwich.

Is that what you call it?

The McRib the McRib clan.

Oh, I see, I see.

I like that Cassandra already after she heard that, sorry, right away, puts up on YouTube.

What time are we betting that Pat crashes today?

Well, again, given the, you know, the time zone change by 4pm today, just absolutely out.

But I appreciate that, that show of support.

Or is it like watching a car crash?

We never can tell.

Here's why I bring up the McRib.

In Portugal, you will find some

American things like Burger King and McDonald's.

And McDonald's is going through an ad campaign out there right now.

And there is a traditional Portuguese sandwich called the Bifana.

And it is a makeup of

pork.

It's kind of like a pork patty and then a sauce that has, uh, like notes of peppers and garlic and bay leaves.

And there are a lot of traditional Portuguese foods there, a lot of sardines, a lot of, uh, cod, but then there's this, this pork sandwich.

So that's the Bifana.

Would you eat something called the McBifana?

Because I saw those, the only thing you saw other than the billboards for all the elections and the candidates was for the McBifana.

And as much as I talked about it, would Sherry, who was doing most of the rental car driving and I was doing most of the navigating, would she pull over at a McDonald's for me to try the McBiffana?

Absolutely not.

We were not hitting McDonald's in any way, shape or form on the way there.

So did I miss out or did I luck out?

There's the big question for

her.

Well, I guess, do you have a...

What a big fauna you says called a Bifana Bifana did you have a Bifana while you were there?

No, you know not attached to a fast food.

I

did

not

know

you

missed out completely I

did miss out completely had a lot of there was a lot of cod They make it in all these different ways, but in the end it is still cod and sardines which again are fine, but really salty.

Yeah, really.

It's really

tough to overcome that.

There were times when at two different points, I mean, you're not like next door to Italy, but you're a lot closer than you are here.

And there were a couple of little, there were so many local restaurants.

That's how I really want to put it in all of these cities in Lisbon and Porto and Evra and everywhere else that we went.

Lots of these small locally owned cafes and restaurants.

And it was wonderful.

Then a couple of them were pizza places.

Some of the best pizza

The best pizza I've ever had was in Italy and this was right there on its heels.

The way that it's made there, just to get away from the commercial production, the mass production of food and have something made right there for you one at a time was just insanely delicious.

Did you find yourself like I know people have said to me before when they go to like Italy or Europe They like I ate so much food But I felt light as a feather and I lost weight because we were walking so much and because

all

because the ingredients are always natural and there's less chemicals and in Additives like cuz you know their laws say you can't do that because it you know hurts people

Yeah, there's that and and also the fact that if you were on vacation you're walking You know eight to fourteen thousand steps every day based on you know what our little phones tell us and they're in Portugal which if you missed it earlier I was there for a friend's wedding and then we did some other exploring around the country, but it's very hilly

And rather than, you know, again, these cities go back, you know, millennia.

And rather than bulldoze a lot of things, I mean, you are living in this, in these cities where the hills and narrow cobblestone streets.

I mean, very narrow cobblestone streets.

Driving was a character builder, shall we say, getting through some of these places like Nazaré, where I, uh, in another part in, in Everett.

we're going down this dirt road to get to where the wedding is.

And clearly they were doing some setup of the wedding because coming at us, not one, but two big delivery trucks.

And we're like, there's just no way.

And we're, we're, we're faced with the prospect of backing down this dirt road about a good half mile with curves.

And by the way, there, you know, at the end, not, not some, not some curb and gutter, not something nice and flat.

Oh no, it just drops right off.

And the guy in the truck was just like, no, no, no, come on, come on, making this gesture.

Come on, we can pass, we can pass.

And Sherry says, nope, and gets out and I get in, it's my turn to take over.

And I have never come that close to side swiping a vehicle while at the same time nearly plunging off the road.

But we managed to pull it off.

Things are just a little...

Different in older places where you have the cobblestone streets there.

They are not built around cars.

It's not built around a car culture.

They still have Trollies.

There's a wonderful trolley route that takes you through Lisbon that I could not recommend highly enough.

And again, commuters are using the trollies.

They're using commuter rail.

They're using light rail.

They're using buses.

and they're getting to work just fine without having to have, you know, a million cars in the city center.

And it's just a way of going about things that how did, I think Pat said it or Tony said to Pat, did you do a semester abroad in college?

I feel like you're bringing strong college student back from a summer abroad vibes

today.

Where did you go for vacation?

I went to Bathalona.

Bathalona.

That's exactly it.

And it was not on our list, I guess is what I'm trying to say is this whole segment is brought to you by the Portugal Tourism and Culture Board.

Go.

It's something that Americans, we're not a culture raised on the notion of traveling outside of our borders.

I mean, America is a big country.

I mean, you can drive, you can drive 11 hours and you're still like from one side to other and you're still in Texas.

So,

and I think when you have, when you grow up in like Europe, like my friends, I have friends in Europe.

When you grow up in that area, you have access to cheap flights to other countries.

It's just part of your culture.

You can drive, you can, you know, drive to a different part of Europe.

But we don't do that and and and what you were saying earlier is now we've almost like what we were saying about PBS culture breeds Education because you're surrounded by different people and you're learning and you're taking in more and we have weaponized that to be the act of the elite and Yes,

the yeah and

to be educated in any way shape or form is to be feared Correct

and It's very easy to you know

mock those who get an education or who do travel when the fact of the matter is that the people who settled where you are right now.

they were travelers once themselves.

And to think that any place is static in the way that my place right now is the way it's always been and should always be is just absolutely foolish.

Things do change or evolve to some degree.

And then there's other things that you hang onto because they're beneficial, like your trolley system.

We had those in this country all over the place until, again, it became big business to just pave everything.

And then put cars in there.

Oh, by the way, that reminds me of one headline that I saw while I was away was that Uber is experimenting now with how exactly did they put it?

It was like, um, Uber is experimenting with multi passenger timed commuter vehicles.

And as somebody noted, in other words, we're privatizing the bus system,

you know,

more

expensive or more expensive bus is a great.

Yes.

Yes.

Yeah.

That's exactly what it, it's always that, Hey, you know, this corporation will be able to, to do it better than you, including McDonald's.

We will, we will make your, your national sandwich.

We will mass produce it and we will make it better for you.

Here's one thing that we have not embraced from Europe that I'm, I'm going to be okay with soccer.

When we first got to Liz, tread

lightly friend.

I know when we, here's, here's why.

When we first got to Lisbon, we were at a hotel in the city center that was adjoining a large park, um, not a zoo or anything, just a large green space.

And we were warned that there was going to be a big football match and that it turns out Lisbon has.

two teams, kind of a Mets Yankees thing.

And as it turned out, it was the second to last game of the season for the, for the league in Portugal.

And these two teams were tied for the top.

And if one of them won the match, they would become the league champion.

But if they tied, they'd have to go on to next week and play other teams and then decide it that way.

But they said, we just want you to be prepared that if one of the teams wins and is going to take the title, there will be upwards of one million people in this park across the street.

And so things could get a little crazy tonight because again, we got in at like eight, nine in the morning.

We'd been flying all night and everything.

And they said, just want a warning.

We're like, we're fine.

We're tired.

We don't care.

We just want a nice clean room.

And we did wake up in time that the match is going on and they draw one to one.

And you could have shot a cannon through that park because everybody was just like,

Ugh, it was such like this national letdown that, well, there was a tie, so nobody's the champion, so we'll have to play again next week.

So that's the point I'm making is this whole notion of a tie, a one-to-one tie?

No, no, we're not doing that.

You play till somebody wins in this country.

That much we've got.

If we gotta do a shootout, we'll do a shootout.

If we gotta do 12 over times, we're gonna do 12 over times.

This is America.

There's a winner and there's a loser and there's no ties here.

Except in the national football league where they have really dumb rules.

I was, I mean, while, while you were doing that, I was just going to be like, that's a terrible version of that song.

Wow.

I was going to play,

I was going to play America, the beautiful behind you as you just got more and more unhinged about the, the rules of a very old sport.

Tony, right away.

You watch your, I knew it.

I told you, man.

I told you Tony was going to,

yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He said, I did not expect that hard turn back to America Pat.

Again, it's just the notion of ties and a game that ends one to one.

I was actually following the hockey playoffs while I was over there and hoping so hard to see, you know, teams from Canada in because I'm not all Merca.

I would like to see because the Stanley Cup winner has been from Canada in over 20 years.

And of course, they were all eliminated except for Edmonton.

So.

because, again, we do the shootouts.

You play to win.

Oh, I get it.

Soccer

does

shootouts, too.

Not all the time, but it's fine.

I know.

And I didn't have to put up with a million people in, you know, interrupting me.

So I'm OK with that.

Today's history lesson is next, as we always do.

Mornings up north and live here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Happy birthday to Sherilyn Sarkeesian of El Centro, California.

You know her best to share and she is 79 years old today.

First teamed up with Sunny Bono in 1964, recording as the group Caesar and Cleo before changing it to Sunny and Cher the next year.

Once they hit it big with I Got You Babe, she decided to just go with Cher.

And so happy birthday to Cher, 79 years old today.

Joe Cocker was born this day in 1944, passed away in 2014.

And to play that song, it welcomes in our friend Dan Hagen, because the only way this show is going to work is if we get by with a little help from our friends.

This

is neither Dan nor Greg singing,

by the way.

Or

John Belushi.

Mr.

Hagen, how are you?

I'm doing well.

You know, this was that, wasn't it Woodstock where he nailed this song, right?

Believe so, yes.

I can't believe I just got a Woodstock reference from Dan Hagen.

I know.

How great is this?

What a great way to come back for vacation.

Nice.

I love my Beatles and, you know, the adjacent.

You know, I can do adjacent once we get to share.

I know a song or two.

That's

awesome.

Wow.

or Tony thinks we're doing a Wonder Years episode.

Yes, there is always that too.

What have you been working on there, Dan?

I feel like all we've ever talked about with you lately is reinflating the HODAC

dominance.

That's so funny.

You say that, because that's what I was going to mention.

It's reinflated.

They're doing interior repairs.

They got to fix the track and the tennis courts, but it should be back up and running for real, maybe in a week or two.

All right, good.

See again, all weather related now the weather is is not so great out there, but hopefully not not in a way that would that would that would be awful does just have another storm go through and go up there goes the dome again.

So let's let's keep things let's keep things on the good side of repaired shall we say actor Dave Thomas is 76 years old today.

Let's see a couple of business anniversary notes.

Guy named Levi Strauss received a

received a patent this day in 1873 for blue jeans with copper rivets.

Which, when you think about it in hindsight, it's like, wait a minute.

That was the big technological advance, was pants with rivets in them, but we're all still wearing our blue jeans today, aren't we?

It was originally workman's wear, is that right?

For like going out into mines?

Yeah.

That's right.

And now we purposefully wear them distressed.

Right.

Let's see, this is also the birthday in 1818 of William Fargo, who co-founded Wells Fargo and American Express.

On this day in 1965, the Rolling Stones debuted a certain song of theirs on an American variety show called Shindig.

Here's the number one national hit song that was heard for the first time in the world, right here on Shindig.

And here are the guys who made it famous, the Rolling

Stones!

It is now weird given that it was 60 years ago today to see them just so young and energetic and the song was brand new and it's so...

Not that now it's it's nice to go back in history.

We found this on YouTube You can find the clip as well and to have these shows like shindig where Songs can be premiered and I don't know that we have anything like that Especially now that MTV doesn't you know have like music videos anymore or anything like that we have people like the voice and American Idol, but yeah, we don't really yeah, it's it's not quite the same as it the young rascals had a number one hit this day in 1967 with Groovin

Wings had a hit this week in 1978 with with a little luck going to number one.

That's weird with a little help with a little luck.

It's all Beatles stuff.

That's right.

Yeah.

No, no.

Hey, Jane Whedeland, go goes guitarist is 67 years old today.

Buster Rhymes is 53.

Rachel Platten, who gave us fight song is 34 years old today.

On this day in 1989, Paula Abdul notched her second number one hit with the title track to her debut album.

Can I just make a point about Miss Jane Weedland who's turning 67 today?

Yes.

O'Connor Walk, Wisconsin's very own Jane Weedland.

Oh,

thank you for that reminder.

Yes.

She is

from O'Connor Walk.

Yes, and we could have played rush hour from her.

She hit on the charts as well as the solo artist and It was three years ago today that Harry Styles released his third solo album Harry's house which debuted at number one on the charts All I really see there is I think Jimmy Fallon and

doing some kind of a spoof on this.

It's a very spoof worthy tune.

Sounds

about right.

Yeah.

Let's see.

This is National Band Director's Day.

Dan, were you in band?

I was in band.

I played trombone just so I could, you know, slide it back and forth.

And I was last chair, I think, so I wasn't anything special.

I didn't know last chair was a thing.

OK.

And this is World Bee Day as we get near the end of No Mo May.

How's that going for you over there, Greg?

I mowed the front yard yesterday.

The backyard is insanity.

So if it's nice out or acceptable enough for today, I'm going to start mowing the backyard because I'm over it.

And so bees, you're on notice.

Enjoy your World Bee Day.

Yeah.

Just stay out of Greg's yard later

today.

Exactly.

And this is also National Weights and Measures Day.

to which I would again direct people to the rant that already took place earlier in the show about the metric system.

It's like, why are we still doing things the way that we are with weights and measures?

My dad told me in school like they would teach him the metric system because they're like, all right, we're going to convert soon.

Let's just learn it.

Yes.

Man, 100 years ago

about.

Could you even imagine someone today bringing a weights and measure bill in and.

all of like fights, all of them just losing their minds.

Would absolutely go crazy.

Yes.

Hey, Dan is going to hang around after the news and two more hours still to come as we get rolling with another one of those Tuesday mornings here powered by Up North News.

I'm Pat Critello and this is

Live, across Wisconsin on Civic Media, you're listening to Mornings with Pack Right Low Powered by UpNorth News.

Now, from our Lake Mesota studio, here is the founding editor of Up North News, Pat Craiglo.

Well, good morning.

It is 7 0 6.

Nice to have you here up north on this Tuesday morning, May 20th.

Nice to be back after a nice stretch off for a little European vacation that we'll continue talking about throughout the course of the morning.

Greg Bach joins us from Radio Park.

Dan Hagen from WJFW News Watch 12 and Rhinelander is with us and meteorologist Brittany Merleau as well.

Brittany there.

What's the old adage?

Red sky at morning sailors take warning red sky at night sailors delight.

I

had to go out and take a picture this morning of a sunrise that was probably as red as it gets,

which

I take to affirm the forecast that it's not going to be the world's most pleasant day out

across

Wisconsin today.

No, it's definitely not.

It's going to be dark, damp, dreary, windy.

wet soaking wet in some places in fact temperatures right now are still crisp and cool lake superior if you're up there 39 degrees and then it's about 48 degrees by the shores of lake michigan winds are already cranking out of the east at about 20 to 30 mile per hour gusts

we're going to see them fre about 40 miles per hour this afternoon and we've got system that is sliding down it's just scraping su the state.

But it's big in those strong winds.

We at cloudy skies, heavy ra now it's already into our to move throughout the rest

We are going to see that far up north.

I know we're seeing some sunshine into northeastern parts right now, but we are going to cloud up and we're all going to see that rainfall.

In fact, some storms are expected down far south later on this afternoon.

And in total rainfall just today, we could see a good one to two inches from pretty much a line across to Sheboygan and south.

So some flooding potential there as those rivers start to rise, but that area does need the rain.

The drought about 5% of the state is in a drought and it's right along that state line.

So this is hitting the right spot at the right time.

Otherwise today you're going to probably need a sweatshirt or something like a jacket because with those winds, highs are only going to reach the mid 40s down south.

to the mid fifties far north.

This

is a big system.

I mean, stretches from like Atlanta to Saskatchewan.

When

I first

called up the radar this morning, this is not one of those things.

Oh, poor us little black rain cloud.

Like, nope, this.

Yep.

Everybody's getting

a little

something today.

Yeah, we are.

And that East wind, I was telling Greg an hour ago, you know, we've got one of these places with, you know, the oversized American flag and to see a flag that large, you know, just stiff in the wind from out of the East is pretty rare.

Yes, yes, it is.

It absolutely is.

And that's pretty cool to see.

Oh, get a video of that for me, please.

Okay.

Well, I'd have to want to venture out in this.

You'll notice I'm in a short sleeve shirt.

You know, there's that saying about, you know,

dress for the job you want, not the, not the job you've got.

And, and what you shouldn't do, you should not apply it to dress for the weather you want, not the

weather

you've got, because I just got done with 10 days in Europe that was like, it was picture postcard weather.

Every day was in the upper seventies and sunny.

It looked like, you know, one of those under the Tuscan sun things that you'd see in

Italy

or southern Portugal or Spain and

I'm not dressed for this.

You were actually

my

first, you were my first tip off, first email that I saw, you know, with the forecast for this morning, because I did not look at the headlines or the forecast or anything.

I just landed him like, Oh, it looks kind of icky out here.

I hope it's just passing through.

It's not

just passing

through.

No.

And then we were thinking about you coming back today and we're like, we'll see if he makes it depending on all those crazy winds that are coming with the system.

But I'm glad you're back and I'm sorry that the weather is a little bit crummy, but it'll get better for this weekend Memorial Day weekend.

That's just it.

We've got a holiday weekend coming up.

Other folks will be traveling.

And look, if you're on a regular like a 747 or you know, one of the DC planes or whatever, we've all hit turbulence from time to time while flying.

When you're in one of those big old 787s going across the ocean and you hit something and you know, from the little map, you're somewhere, but you're somewhere over the ocean, like off the tip of Greenland or something.

And

you

hit a, you hit turbulence and something that size.

I mean, I know planes go through this every single day.

It gets your attention.

Everybody, everybody went righty tighty, right?

On all the bolts and everything that's in here.

This is all nice and sturdy, right?

And it was.

See belts on click.

Oh,

yeah,

without without there.

Brittany, thank you so much.

We'll talk to you in the next hour as well.

Sounds good.

Dan, you were mentioning as well to as we were getting set to talk to Brittany a bit about severe weather and there was like, there's fundraisers going on because we did have quite a spate of bad weather right before I left as well.

And I know that that's just part of life in Wisconsin, but it's always sad to see.

Yeah, that's right.

It was last Wednesday night at Thursday that a tornado went through Rib Falls, Wisconsin.

Rib Falls is north of Marathon City.

If you don't know where that is, that's okay.

It's in Marathon County.

And it really didn't touch down for a long, but it just destroyed this couple's farm and house.

So they're trying to do a GoFundMe and just raise enough money to buy a trailer home so they can live on their land while kind of insurance takes care of the process, which is a long and arduous process.

Uh, yeah, it is more, more so than it should be in Europe, but I'm going to get on that rant again a little bit later.

First, I

wanted to share from Robin Tigerton.

Welcome back, Pat.

Hold you.

Hope you had an excellent time in Tigerton.

It's cloudy and 45 with those easterly winds.

It's chilly and wearing a jacket, mowing lawns after a week of getting a suntan one week ago.

He said I did my Wittenberg mowing jobs yesterday to beat the rain today.

We're going to be talking to Chad Holmes in a bit about in our next hour about colonoscopies and Rob says on his that he had right before my break.

They found a few polyps but not cancerous.

And so I'm very glad that I got this done.

He says I love the gogos from 1980s.

We talked about Jane Whelan's birthday.

My favorite song is Vacation.

Greg, if I was closer to you, I would mow your lawn with my John Deere.

I bet you would take you four minutes.

And Rob finishes his comments on YouTube by saying, I have to ask Dan if they did the story of a car hitting a moose along Highway 45 near Land O'Lakes.

Well, let me tell you something.

I wanted to know what Dan had been working on.

So I pulled up the WJFW News Watch 12 site.

And of course, the first headline that grabbed my eye.

Driver hits moose early Monday on Highway 45 near Land O'Lakes.

Moose had to be euthanized from injuries.

not what you typically expect.

No, definitely a vibe killer.

Yeah.

The car hit like the back legs of the moose, unfortunately, so the DNR and the Vyles County Sheriff's Office arrived there and they just had to euthanize it, which is pretty sad.

We only see, you know, a couple moose every year in our area.

Yeah, I mean, look, I recall when they reintroduced Elk in the Clam Lake area and what a big deal that was and

One of the things when you've got an eight hour flight like I did yesterday you're looking at the movies and the shows and everything and I picked up on this documentary about Grizzly Bear tracking through the US and Canada from Yellowstone all the way up to Alaska and you learn in all of these areas whether you're talking bears moose elk whatever

It's not that look we're not saying oh, you know Man should not be settling in any of these places But it's a matter of trying to have some kind of a coexistence and that includes being careful on the roads because you know, it's not it's not just bad for the above mentioned moose But bad for you as well.

There are people that you know, there are traffic fatalities and injuries not to mention the body shops.

I mean I've hit

I've hit two or three deer over the years, Dan.

I don't know if you've ever struck one or not.

Yeah, I've hit probably four or five.

I spent a summer in Montana and that did it for me.

But yeah, a lot of bald eagles are hit.

You know, they're eating carcasses on the side of the road that probably were hit by cars.

And then people just zoom right past these eagles and they get erratic and they're not good.

No.

I forgot all about that the the bald eagles eating the roadkill and things like that Where again, we're just looking for a little a little coexistence a little bit more Care before I leave a previous subject Alicia chimes in on YouTube Crossing the Atlantic in an aircraft carrier makes you notice the waves as well Yeah, no, thanks Alicia.

There's just no I mean I I love going on cruise ships They go from one tranquil Caribbean island to another tranquil across mostly tranquil seas, but

taking a boat across the North Atlantic.

Greg, that's a Titanic kind of mission that I would not sign up for.

Maybe maybe you are braver than me.

I wouldn't even do cruises.

Those things are horrifying.

They're not.

Those are horrifying vessels

in the middle

in the middle of an unforgiving and vengeful ocean.

OK.

No, thank you.

Hard pass.

I would do a Viking river cruise where I could see both sides of the coast or both sides of the land.

I mean, oh, the boat's going down.

I will simply swim a quarter of a mile to shore.

Yay.

Dan, Cruises.

I have never been on a cruise.

I don't care to go on a cruise.

And Greg and I, we're actually doing a Viking River cruise next week.

Oh,

see, I knew I'd missed out the arrangements on something there.

Well, by all means, enjoy.

So Dan, we've covered the moose.

We've covered the hodag dome as re-inflated.

And what other stories have you been following up there for NewsWatch 12?

Well over the weekend some Rhineliner paper mill workers noticed a goose was trapped in some lures and actually a lure and some fishing line so they were able to capture the goose and

drive it to wild instincts, a local animal rehabilitator, and they were able to remove the lure, which was in its bill and its foot, and then take out some fishing line, give it some antibiotics, give it some painkillers and eventually release it back.

So a lot of animal rehab going on for that's been successful.

No, that's, that's, that's great.

Tony on YouTube, did the goose lay the golden egg?

No, Tony, it doesn't work that way.

It had to pay the medical bills.

It's funny.

I was spending some time with a friend of mine and there was a goose, a mother goose, just probably eight feet away, like the whole time.

I don't know if I should have been that close, but it just stayed right on its legs.

Didn't make a sound.

Oh, that's okay.

You don't, I was going to make some joke about being goose.

No, I'm just going to move right on from there.

Memorial Day weekend coming up.

Do you have plans for the long weekend?

Yes, I'll be spending some time with my family up in Arborvita, Wisconsin, which is near Minakwa.

and uh you know be thinking of uh it kind of makes me emotional Memorial Day because you know I have some family members uh my grandma's brother um who you know went to war never came back never was able to have a family so be thinking of him and uh swap it stories

uh that is the most appropriate thing to do and to say and to be thinking about during that time so no it's it's absolutely not

not at all lost should not be lost on any of us the the actual meaning of the weekend and the importance of it and then having said that once we have you know a paid that appropriate level of honor to be able to enjoy a long weekend like that that was made again uh it was provided by the sacrifice of others who came before us so when you do that when you when you take that long weekend with family is it is it recreational or is it more relaxing

Yeah, I mean, it's well depending on which of my siblings are there, you know, it could be there.

No, I'm kidding No life is good.

We we get outside we we're at a motorboat family So we get on canoes and kayaks maybe go fishing maybe go biking Yeah, man, just while it's on my mind Gerhard Steinbach was my was the brother of my grandmother He served in World War two.

He did he died on the baton death march.

Oh, so

I'm always thinking of him once a year at

least.

Absolutely.

Attention must be paid and I'm glad that you've brought it up.

Dan, you can catch him over at WJFWTV News Watch 12 in Rhinelander and also here on Tuesday mornings.

We always appreciate it.

Thanks for sticking around.

Help us get back into the swing of things after

a little bit of time off.

Welcome back.

I don't see much color on you, Pat.

You know, did you use too much sunscreen?

I was in, you know, I was in a lot of tour buses and, and sitting in those cafes.

You just covered in a

blank at the entire time.

Something like that.

All right, Dan, we'll see you next week.

Have a great holiday weekend.

All right.

Sounds good.

Still ahead on the show this morning, Dan Schaefer as well as Chad Holmes from the heart of America's Up North, live from Lake Wissota.

Thanks for making this the place to spend part of your mornings.

I'm Pat Rightlow.

We've got some brewers baseball tonight across the Civic Media Radio Network.

Brewers will be playing the Baltimore Orioles after beating them last night.

Coverage starts at 6.05 on Civic Media stations in Richland Center.

Oshkosh, Racine Kenosha Park Falls.

And the newest affiliate WBZH up in Hayward.

And then there is a matinee game tomorrow.

And that is an, geez, I just said, did I say 1105 or 1135 for the start time on there?

I will, I will get that in my notes, Greg.

It's

1210.

It's

a 1210.

So, so 1135 would be the pregame.

Yeah, about that.

Thank you.

I was I was looking at a different screen because this is normally where I turn to one Greg Bach and say, hey, what's coming up later on Matt and Aaron air?

And then I'm always surprised when when I see my name listed on there.

Oh,

yeah, buddy, you're going to be on there on air.

That was a weird surfer Canadian thing I voiced.

I'm never going to do that again.

I'm

never going to do that

again.

Yeah, we have you today at 9 30.

And then at 10 o'clock, we're going to have Missy Hughes is the she is the I believe the executive director of the

Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation.

She'll be

on

talking about tariffs and what Wisconsin is doing.

And then we're going to have Beth Hindorn from the Racine Zoo.

So it's a very, very packed show today.

And of course, concluding with this shouldn't be a thing where we take a look at funny, weird and sometimes.

stressful news.

No, we just take a look at a story that's circling the world and kind of like, should this be a thing?

Should the people be doing these things?

It's weird.

But yeah, it's all part of our last half hour we call Audio Sorbet where we sort of cleanse the palette, bring in some fun and let the beautiful, relaxing harps just do their thing.

I was gonna say, yes, yes, the harps are cleansing in and of themselves.

There they are now.

Then follow, follow, follow that fine program.

Followed indeed.

We're going to follow.

Followed

indeed.

Followed by, I got to pick one or the other, Todd Alba's show.

We're at two thirty today.

Positive psychology coach Kira Saban will be on as part of their mental health awareness month series.

Maggie Dawn has former U.S.

Attorney Jim Santel coming up this afternoon and Dan Schaefer will have his weekly appearance with Maggie Dawn as he will with us coming up

at 830 this morning.

The Milwaukee Brewers were winners I mentioned against Baltimore.

It was a four-hit game for William Contreras, including breaking a tie in the eighth inning with a two-out single.

Five to four was the final score and for the Brewers or for the Orioles rather it was their seventh consecutive loss and again the two teams will play again later today and then tomorrow midday before they take off for a little matinee game coming up or I'm sorry taking off for a trip to Pittsburgh Greg on this shouldn't be a thing

working the day after your vacation, yay or nay?

Nay, absolutely not.

In fact, I was surprised when you texted me last night, you said, we're home.

I'm like, weren't you home already?

Like, I go, I go to like, I, every January, British and I take a trip somewhere warmish, warm ask, warmer than Wisconsin.

Yes.

And we always come back like, either Sunday night or early Monday morning.

So we have a full day of just

Getting back to the swing of things.

The fact that you went to a different time zone in a different continent and you came back last night like, all right, here we go.

I'm like, wow.

Here's the math mistake that I made in doing that.

Again, because of that, that whole thing of the earth being around and these time

zones.

Okay, Pat.

Watch as I, as I explain the curvature of the earth now.

Anyway, in, in Europe right now, it's, you know, the noon hour and I would be all bright out in bushy tales.

So thinking, okay, we're getting back later in the evening, but in the morning, you know, four o'clock in the morning, when I get up, my body will think it's noon.

But then there's that whole flying for like 22 hours, you know, getting through the airport in Lisbon, which that's a story I could take some time to tell, but nobody at the Lisbon airport is listening right now.

So I'll save that for a sternly worded letter at some point.

And then, you know, transferring in Paris and then the flight and everything else that comes over kind of takes a little bit of the wind out of your sails.

If I, if I may be so bold as to say.

I need to look at a map of map of Europe because something's not computing.

And this is just might be OK.

So you had to fly from

Portugal to Paris from Lisbon to Paris because it was a direct flight from Paris to the Twin Cities.

Now, other people who were going to this wedding flew Chicago to Toronto, Toronto to Dublin, Dublin to Lisbon.

Wow.

And.

I just was, you know, I thought if we can get this, if we, if I can name that tune in two flights, I'm going to do that instead.

Yeah.

And here's the thing.

We did complicating things further was we made two different travel arrangements because we realized we had enough credit card points on one of the cards.

to qualify for a free ticket.

So one of our flights was actually free.

But to use the American Express points, it was an offer through Virgin Atlantic.

So Virgin Atlantic has a partnership with Air France.

And the flight was by Air France.

But in the US, the flight was managed by Delta.

Oh,

so I try trying to get checked in for these flights, both ways where you're going to Air France and like, oh, no, no, I know it's our flight, but Delta manager, you know, you got the points through Virgin Atlantic and they're like, oh, no, no.

And Delta was like, well, you didn't book it directly from us, so we can't help you on that.

So for all the wonderful things that I've said for the first half of the show about travel to Europe.

And again, we are as big a travel fans as ever before.

But sometimes it's the traveling.

That is the thing.

And that would include the guy sitting just across the aisle from us, who on the entire eight hour flight from Paris to the Twin Cities, had this wet, persistent cough the entire flight.

The fact that I am doing this show and not in some kind of a coma right now is a miracle.

And that's been another episode of Pat Talk to the Manager.

Why?

We talk.

This is why.

Pat advocates travel, but there's some issues.

Coming up later, Chad Holmes, Dan Schaefer, another check-in with meteorologist Brittany Merleau.

First, we're going to have Hans Brighton Moser.

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Welcome back.

It is 735.

I'm Pat Critello here on the Civic Media Radio Network live from Lake Wissota on this Tuesday morning, May 20th.

Nice to be back.

It was a wonderful vacation 10 days away in Portugal for a friend's wedding and some sightseeing.

And we have talked about it at length, which is Pat's way of saying, I didn't look at the news very much.

And the stuff I looked at, I didn't really want to dwell on today.

We'll have plenty of time for that.

In fact,

Dan Schaefer is here one hour from right now, and then we'll really get back into the spirit of political headlines, Wisconsin, nationally, and frankly, internationally, because of some of the election results that happened while I was in Europe over the past couple of days.

So we'll talk to Dan Schaefer about that.

About the flight, though, on Facebook, Artith Wright's Pat.

I hope you wore a mask on that flight.

What's wrong with some people?

And I was talking about somebody earlier who had a persistent wet cough for the entire eight hour flight.

And I kept shooting nasty looks over there because no mask and was just coughing into his hand the whole time.

And I thought, how many services is this guy touching?

But of course, telling my mom about it, the first thing I get back from her is, well, did you wear a mask?

I'm like, no, no, I didn't.

So.

uh, lesson learned for that next very long flight here.

But I appreciate the concern.

Again, nice to be back.