Tariff’ied (Hour 1)

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Tariff’ied (Hour 1)

Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Fri May 2, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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Pat Kreitlow

Well, hey there, Wisconsin.

Good morning.

It is 6.06 and it is Friday morning, May the 2nd, 2025.

And it's another beautiful morning to have you here up north live from Lake Wasota from wherever you're spending your mornings.

listening across the Civic Media Radio Network or on the Civic Media app, catching us by YouTube or Facebook or by podcast.

We appreciate you starting the day and wrapping up the work week right here.

I've got a question for you.

How great is it to hear Cardinals and other songbirds when you head out to the car in the morning?

Isn't it great?

I love spring in Wisconsin.

When you can hear the Cardinals are doing their thing up here on the lake, way better.

then hearing the wind chill as the snowflakes blow sideways right into your garage as you open it up and hit you in the face before you can even get in your car, right?

This is the way to go.

Fishing opener this weekend, spring is definitely here.

Coming up, we've got another question for you.

Are you ready to see Wisconsin's next Fox News personality?

Because he's taking his audition to the Race for Wisconsin Governor.

next year.

I'll tell you all about the new candidate in the race.

What else?

Motherhood.

Is any concept more American and more worthy of respect from our elected leaders?

Not that that matters to Robin Voss, the Speaker of the Assembly, who is single-handedly blocking a bill

to better protect new moms from health crises.

We'll talk to Dr. Kristen Lyrely about that, as well as Emily Sefos about that bill and another bipartisan proposal at the Capitol, providing better coverage for the kinds of diagnostic mammograms that are proven to save lives.

Also, give the White House some credit for a little bipartisanship.

What do I mean?

I mean businesses, workers, consumers,

pundits have all united around the notion that the Trump tariffs are off-target and causing real harm.

We will review this week's developments with Courier Newsroom's Keeva Keel and a couple of our Courier Newsroom colleagues from our outlets in Michigan and New Hampshire.

With our Week in Review panel, we will warn you please do not try to parody the New York Times.

It is no longer possible.

Its 100-day coverage of the Trump White House concludes with a review of the administration's style and administration where looking the part is crucial to playing the part.

We will try to find the nuggets, a mixed this week's sludge of national media coverage from our panel and Brittany Merleau will have our weekend forecast and Dan Schumacher will be along to talk about sports.

But getting to Brittany in that forecast, she tells us that statewide rain will stick around on occasion today before high pressure nudges in and tries to dry us out for the weekend and then warmer temperatures, a pleasant stretch of warmer temperatures is right around the corner.

But for today, cloudy and cool, scattered showers up north in the morning, working their way south by afternoon, highs today in the mid 40s up north, the mid 50s south, a north wind today at 10 miles an hour.

Tonight, partial clearing with frost likely in spots, lows in the low 30s up north, low 40s south,

with a northeast wind at 5 to 10 miles an hour.

Temperatures across the state range from 37 in superior to 52 in prairie duchine.

And across the civic media radio network, the temps look like this.

It's 48 here on Lake Wissota, 45 in Amory, uh, 40, I'm sorry, 45 in Hayward, 43 in Amory.

Wassa was at 45 rapids, 46.

La Crosse is at 50 degrees right now.

It's 45 in Green Bay, 48 in Madison, and 45 in Milwaukee, where from Radio Park we welcome in one Greg Bach.

Hello.

To wrap up his work week and start his work weekend.

Greg Bach

Yep.

Pat Kreitlow

As is his way because he's a hard worker man.

Greg Bach

Yeah,

Pat Kreitlow

this is gonna be a long weekend.

So, hard worker man, what are you working on this weekend?

Probably at a place called The Laughing Tap.

Greg Bach

Yes.

Gee.

Sorry.

I'm just, I'm just now I'm thinking about the weekend.

Now I'm getting tired already because I'm old, but yeah, we got three shows at the four shows at the tap this weekend with Louis Katz.

He's been here before Louis Katz is a New York comedian.

Very, very funny.

Lisa special called the greatest comedian you've ever heard of.

And he is well known in the community and very, very funny.

We're very excited to have him back this weekend.

7 30 and 10 o'clock are the shows laughing tap.com for tickets, $22 online, 25.

of the door.

No drink minimums.

Come on down.

Have some foam.

Oh my god.

Tell Greg to take a break on Sunday.

Take it easy.

No break on Sunday.

Sunday is actually just if not busier than Friday and Saturday.

So but I get to see the new Marvel movie on Sunday.

I'm excited about that.

What is that called thunder cats?

Okay, I feel like you did that on purpose.

Thunderbolts.

No, no, no,

Pat Kreitlow

I really didn't.

Thunderbolts,

Greg Bach

right?

Thunderbolts is the name of the film.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes, I noted that on one of the TV newscasts earlier this morning and I thought, oh, I don't even know this part of the Marvel.

universe of movies, but you're looking forward to it.

So clearly there's an audience out there.

Greg Bach

And it's getting great reviews, which is good because Marvel is kind of the past couple years.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes.

I mentioned it only very briefly in passing at some point this week that Superman is coming out

Greg Bach

this

Pat Kreitlow

summer.

That's supposed to be the big blockbuster for the for the DC universe.

Greg Bach

Yes.

And I'm very much looking forward to that.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes, so we've got the the Marvel universe.

We've got the DC universe.

And did you know there's also the Pac-Rite low universe?

Greg Bach

What the the the PKU?

The PKU.

That sounds like a North Korea party.

Pat Kreitlow

That does, doesn't it?

Maybe, maybe we won't go with it.

We don't have the dear leader thing going

Greg Bach

on.

The backlight low cinematic universe.

Pat Kreitlow

What I mean by that is first off, the, the folks at Courier Newsroom and I'm, okay, I'm very grateful, but they said, nope, we're changing the name of the show.

It's now mornings with pack right low.

You know, you've, you've built up this trusted brand.

We're going to do that.

Great.

Thank you.

I've managed to screw up the name three times in the past two days.

Um,

Then we've got our new weekend newsletter that comes out on Sunday mornings.

And it started in late January with the very generic Up North News politics edition, as opposed to all the, you know, the softer feature stories that Christina Laurie does Monday through Friday.

So it's Up North News politics edition.

And this Sunday, you'll notice a different banner up there.

They've taken the mornings with Pat Kratlow from the radio show.

And they've taken that and they've slapped that logo up at the top of the Sunday morning newsletter announced to be called Sunday mornings.

with Pat Crichtlow.

And in the

Pat Kreitlow

note, they talked about how it expands the Pat Crichtlow universe.

I'm like, there's a Pat Crichtlow universe.

All right.

Greg Bach

Well, had I known that I would have been like it during the entire explanation.

I would have been playing some like dramatic music behind you.

What, like the Empire?

No.

Imperial March

Pat Kreitlow

or something.

Greg Bach

Or just something simple, just like.

Welcome to the Pat Crichtlow universe Sunday's politics coffee your robe Pat Crichtlow universe question of the week question of the week

Pat Kreitlow

I should, I should have you do a trailer for me.

You know, I, the way I've been wording it is the, you know, the up North news franchise is growing with the newsletters.

Christine has a new sports newsletter.

You know, we're adding all these things to the up North news franchise.

So when I saw the Pat Crite low universe in there, I was like, that's not how I would have worded it, but okay.

You know, whatever, whatever works for the company, the company says.

We're doing this.

I say, okay, thank

Greg Bach

you.

I'm a company man.

Pat Kreitlow

I'm a company man, if nothing else.

Uh, and we'll, we'll probably mention this again, two hours from now when Kristen Lyrely and Emily Sefos are on, just so that you can see the difference between two guys talking about this.

And the way those two ladies are just going to completely bring me back down to earth and make sure I don't get too, too full of myself as we talk about this

Greg Bach

along the way.

Don't forget, don't forget your raisin.

My raisin.

Don't, don't forget your raisin.

Don't forget

Pat Kreitlow

how you were raised.

Oh, oh, my reason.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Oh,

Pat Kreitlow

no.

I never forget my roots.

Never forget where I come from.

855-75 Civic, if you too would like to, you know, make sure that my ego doesn't get ahead of things.

Daniel says morning.

Thank you, Daniel.

Appreciate that very much on YouTube.

You can also join us in the comment sections on Facebook and YouTube and again, we we expanded now This isn't the pack quite low universe This is the civic media universe expanding that we're talking about because we're now not only on the up north news Facebook page and YouTube page and the civic media Facebook page But we are now on the civic media YouTube page.

So I mean, we are we are just a bad penny.

You you cannot shake us man.

We're gonna we're gonna be everywhere

before this is all done.

Greg Bach

Oh my God, I'm part of the PKU and the CMU.

I'm like a crossover.

Oh, cool.

Pat Kreitlow

You can also email the show radio at up north news wi.com.

And of course, for more about civic media, head over to civic media dot us.

Do you know what I missed in sports without because the bucks went out with such a whimper is that

I didn't see until last night a note that the LA Lakers actually did get eliminated by

Greg Bach

the Minnesota Timberwolves.

I could.

I

Pat Kreitlow

just, as I saw that on TV yesterday while I was watching, I don't know, either hockey or basketball playoff stuff.

I'm like,

Greg Bach

they did?

Did you hear the news that the Brewers got blanked by the white socks?

Pat Kreitlow

Well,

I suppose I could have mentioned that too, but I wanted to get that weird note out of the way.

Yeah, let's go for that.

When the Brewers have limped home after their longest road trip of the season, losing to the lowly white socks, eight to nothing.

And they finished their 10 game journey to Chicago, St.

Louis and San Francisco by going four and six.

So now the Brewers are sleeping in their own beds, but it is still kind of a road trip given how many Cubs fans will be at American Family Fields for the weekend.

Yeah, I know, but remember everybody, if you're going out there, play nice, be welcoming.

We are who we are.

Okay, whatever.

And we're not, and we're better than that.

Coverage begins at 635 on Civic Media Stations in Richland Center.

Oshkosh, we're seeing Kenosha, Park Falls, and Hayward.

So there you go.

Yeah, you know bruising comes after a road trip like that.

It'll be nice to have some have a divisional game to look forward to

Greg Bach

a little division rival.

It's just the White Sox were seven and 23 before that game.

And now they're eight and 23 because of us eight.

Oh, God, just

Pat Kreitlow

so sad.

I know.

But it's a it's a long season and some some days you just you can't put it together.

And that, that seems to be the way that it went in yesterday's game.

Had it on in the background.

You can see it out the corner of my eye.

If I lean forward a little bit and I didn't do that very much after the first couple of meetings, I'm like, Oh, this is not going to go well.

And it did not, but, but now we can, we can catch up, gain some ground on the Cubs and Dan Schumacher will not talk about that at seven 50.

Greg Bach

We got it.

We got to gain some ground on the Reds because now we're in third place.

Pat Kreitlow

So great.

Roger puts up on Facebook wanted pitcher apply at American Family Field.

Pitchers.

We need pitchers.

They keep getting hurt.

Yeah.

But let's see what I want to cover a few different things.

There's there's some big stories like a new candidate for governor that we'll talk about here.

But there's also the success of the Brown County Tavern League from the NFL draft.

They ran shuttle buses, you know, so that.

people weren't driving after having a few beverages.

And that was a big success.

So we'll share those numbers at some point today.

And then are you familiar with the term granny flats?

No.

Well, it's, and it's kind of a fancier name too, but they're auxiliary dwelling units.

Basically, if you were to put like a little apartment above your garage.

Oh, the mother in law suite.

are the mother-in-law suite.

Yeah, there's a story about that and whether, you know, local governments in Wisconsin should be encouraging them or at least stop them from discouraging them.

And if you need to think of it instead of a granny flat, keep this in mind.

Fonzie.

Fonzie lived in a granny flat.

Or a mother-in-law suite.

From the heart of America's Up North, live from Lake Wissota, thanks for making this the place to spend part of your mornings.

I'm Pat Crichtlow.

Kathryn Lake

You're listening to Civic Media.

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Pat Kreitlow

started.

Coming up in just about 15 minutes or so here on the program.

A lot of folks were out yesterday for May 1st demonstrations of all sorts.

A lot of folks in Hayward, Verroqua, Madison and Milwaukee of course, saw a few other

Social media posts from around the area and I always appreciate seeing those up and seeing so many people so active in paying attention to what's happening in Washington, in Madison, and even in our local courthouses now, where we have judges that are increasingly concerned about security and intimidation.

To that end, there is now an official candidate

running for governor of Wisconsin next year on the Republican side.

We had told you earlier that there is a manufacturing CEO from a connoisseur, I believe, that has formed a political action committee and may run, but Washington County executive Josh Showman

has now filed the actual paperwork to run for governor.

And according to a story in the journal Sentinel, he is expected to announce his bid at an event on Sunday.

Showman's the first candidate to officially jump into the 2026 race without yet knowing whether Democratic governor Tony Evers will seek a third term or not.

So there's

plenty of uncertainty about this race and the governor made it clear again last weekend, he's not going to make a decision until after the state budget is all done with.

Shulman knows how to get some attention.

Let's put it that way.

I'd go so far as to call it a Fox News edition based on, I mean,

It's clear he watches it all the time.

It's a steady stream of, you know, our freedom demands this and, you know, freedom for him meant none of the safeguards that would save your life during the COVID pandemic.

He was especially vocal in early 2021 about getting everything back to normal.

It's all about, you know, the businesses.

We got to get back to business.

That mindset that I know I talked about at length, back at the time.

Putting commerce and profits ahead of people's lives and there were folks who were very much on the the front lines of that battle from Governor Evers trying to keep people safe and People like Josh Shulman saying nope open it all up and you know, whatever happens to granny help happens to granny But there's there's more than that and again.

I say this is somebody who has worked in Washington County

worked at a radio station there, had it explained to me, and again, this was in the manager's words at the time.

He said, you have to understand, up here, and this was in the West Bend area, this is the capital of white flight.

And so if you're doing a call-in program and the phones are ever quiet and you want to gin things up, just say something nice about Milwaukee.

And everybody will come calling in telling you how wrong they are and how terrible the, you know, Milwaukee is.

And, you know, that certainly was the case in comments that Josh Shomen made at one point talking about lead pipes, lead water service lines, and replacing them.

And he was talking about how tough it had been for his area to get state aid, because how did he put it here?

He said, we are too red, we are too white, and we are too green.

Meaning they vote to Republican, our skin is too white, and we have too much green in our pockets.

And so we will not qualify for a nickel of that.

So that's Josh Showman.

whining about not getting state aid, because in his words, we are too white.

It's really not so much about skin color, as noted by Urban Milwaukee.

Milwaukee has something like 70,000 lead lines that still need to be addressed, while in places like West Bend and a nearby township, they have 850.

Where do you think the money's gonna go?

It's it's worth whining about if it gets you attention and it will from a certain subset of the Wisconsin population.

I'm sure that he will get plenty of TV time if not starting this morning.

I wouldn't surprise me a bit if he was on Fox and Friends or something like that this morning already.

So in many ways, because this guy knows how to get attention, knows how to work the media, you should consider the 2026 governor's race underway right now.

Like it or not.

I mean look we already have three Democratic candidates running in the third congressional district and I would not be surprised if there were more over there.

These things are happening for much the same reason that people were marching and demonstrating yesterday.

We are in a time of perpetual politics in part because not just the divides that we have right now but the actions taking place because of those divides.

Let me tell you what I mean by that.

First off, in the legislature, you have Republicans introducing a bill to roll back all kinds of state-level regulations dealing with business licensing to environmental protections, to rules for childhood vaccinations.

And again, they like to say things like, we have to get rid of regulations.

When you hear regulations, again, just think of protections.

Protection for consumers, protection for our children's health, protections for the environment.

That's at the state level.

Meanwhile, in Washington, the U.S.

Senate has voted to kill some air regulations that the Biden administration put in place on seven hazardous air pollutants.

They voted to roll back rules on hazardous air pollutants.

They've also released a memo or a memo was, I'm sorry, an email was released accidentally that outlines their plans to end research on Head Start

and other child safety net programs.

Oh wait, there's killing a VA program to help veterans avoid foreclosures.

Here's another one, Trump cancelling $1 billion for youth mental health.

Is there anything?

Oh, the House rejecting a ban on deporting US citizens.

And then this, Trump wants a military parade on his birthday, June 14th, also the Army's birthday.

A big military parade that could, in the end, cost taxpayers tens of millions of dollars.

The stuff that we're cutting, you know, from head start and everything else.

Our Keeva Keel and the rest of our career newsroom colleagues are coming up next right after the Midwest Farm Report.

You're on the Civic Media Radio Network.

I'm Pat Kraitlong.

Coming up in less than an hour, our Week in Review panel with journalists Mark Jacob and Jennifer Schulze and former U.S.

Attorney Jim Santel in our 8 a.m.

hour, Dr. Kristen Lierly and Emily Seffos.

But right now it's time to check in with my colleagues at Courier Newsroom, a pro-democracy news network that brings you up north news here in Wisconsin and some other fine outlets like the Gander in Michigan and the Grenett Post in New Hampshire.

Courier Newsroom political editorial director Keef Akeel is here from Los Angeles.

Hello, Keef.

Hey, Pat.

Is that my title this week?

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah, I'm just every week.

I'm just gonna pick a different title for you because you have to do them all anyway From the aforementioned granite post is the chief political correspondent Colin Booth Hello, how are you?

Awesome and a big mighty northern hello to the good people of Wisconsin.

Hey, thank you And our friend Kyle Kaminsky is back from the gander in what city Kyle I don't know that I've ever asked

Capital city of Lansing of Lansing.

Well, of course.

All right, Kyle and Colin and I each wrote up pieces for our respective outlets about the 100 day mark for President Trump and what it's meant in each of our states.

And we'll we'll get to that in just a little bit from each state.

But Kia, as usual, we'll start with you for as our political correspondent on national matters.

And of course, the one of the newest things is that it's been long enough now since the scandal over the signal gate that

Only now it appears Michael Waltz is on his way out as Trump's national security advisor.

Yeah, news broke that Walz is out, along with one of his deputies.

And this is pretty clearly the aftermath of the signal debacle.

I think it's notable that finally there was someone who ended up getting the blame for it, essentially.

And it's notable to me that it's not Pete Hegseth.

I think Walz clearly must have not done a good enough job of repairing the damage from this.

And, you know, comically, he gave up a very, very safe seat in Congress to serve all of three months in the White House.

Pat Kreitlow

But it's not just Michael Waltz being shown the door.

Elon Musk kind of got a valedictory in this week's cabinet meeting, but apparently from Tesla as well, if the rumors are to be

believed.

I think they very much over read the election results as a mandate to come in and take a sledgehammer to everything.

You know, I think there was a desire for anti-institutional like rebuilding, but not to break it and not replace it with anything.

Kathryn Lake

And so

what we're seeing is obviously people hate Elon Musk.

People are not that jazzed about the first couple months of the Trump administration.

You know, Musk may go back to Tesla.

There's rumors that Tesla is searching for a new CEO.

You know, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

But I think all of it's a sign that the first hundred days of the Trump administration, which we marked this week, were not quite what a lot of people

we're hoping for?

Pat Kreitlow

No, what a lot of people didn't expect, including supporters of the president.

And so that takes us to Kyle and Colin and our stories about 100 days in.

Kyle, how would you describe the thrust of your 100 day story in terms of how Trump's moves have been felt in Michigan since he took office?

The clearest thing that I think we're seeing in Michigan is that the promises Trump made to working families are falling apart.

Unemployment spiked to 5.5% now.

We're one of the highest rates in the country.

Auto plants are being idled.

These tariffs have triggered layoffs in manufacturing and parts suppliers.

Families who voted for Trump expecting relief are seeing rising prices and shrinking job prospects.

Pat Kreitlow

I mean, you saw and you've been covering the protests in Michigan about Medicaid and proposed cuts there.

Again, same in Wisconsin.

It's really struck a chord with, you know, regular folks with families who depend on Medicaid for health insurance coverage.

And people are definitely not afraid to speak to you and others to speak out about this.

Now, I mean, I've talked to people across the state, and one thing's clear, Medicaid isn't some handout.

It's a safety net that working families, seniors, parents, even small business owners are using.

I think people are, now that this conversation is happening more and more frequently, people are realizing how interconnected Medicaid is, and it covers home health care for aging parents, prenatal visits for expecting moms, mental health services, addiction recovery, the list goes on.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes, it does and Colin same to you first.

Let's start with the the 100-day overview and what what do you think most folks in New Hampshire Think about it since January 20th.

Yeah, things are Not not great a lot of granted status.

We just got a poll back from the University of New Hampshire Huge majority of granted status really against these tariffs especially the the

Canadian tariffs, the 25% tariffs on Canadian goods.

New Hampshire is a border state with Canada and a lot of small businesses here and a lot of large businesses here deal with trade from Canada.

So you were seeing a lot of timber suppliers, furniture stores, hotels, liquor distributors, all of these.

We're just seeing a wealth of local reporting from these small businesses that the economic impacts of these tariffs here in New

I mean, they're just going to be enormous.

Pat Kreitlow

Kea, there seems to be a through line here that whether you're you're an auto worker or you're working at one of these places in New Hampshire or in Wisconsin, I just I am not hearing people go, Oh, thank goodness, these tariffs are in place.

Our industry is saved.

Yeah, no, I don't think anyone's doing that.

I think something I've seen sort of

all across the country as small business owners are terrified.

Even ones who supported Trump.

I think we haven't quite seen the full impacts of it because he stopped and started so many times and because there is a lag with supply chains.

So a lot of people imported a ton of stuff in the first quarter.

But I think we'll see a massive drop in that.

you'll start to see prices go up on a lot of things, you know, whether it's Canadian lumber or maple syrup, car parts.

I know he's trying to give car companies in Michigan a little bit of a break so that they don't, you know, get totally devastated by them, a tax credit of some kind, I believe.

Kyle can fact check me if I'm wrong, but it is very unpopular.

And, you know, he is

Trump is right that he did run on this.

Like he unambiguously ran on tariffs, but his actual tariff plan has been completely incoherent and not strategic.

And, you know, I think you're going to start to see more and more stories come out from consumers, from small businesses, folks trying to buy stuff on outlets like Timu, where it's, you know, most of their products come from China.

And so the products are twice as expensive as they would have been before.

Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see if he actually sticks to his guns on this or if he continues to back down when the data is spooking people.

Pat Kreitlow

Now, the next presidential election is well down the road.

But as we know here in Wisconsin, I mean, we've already got three candidates in the Third Congressional District for an election in November of next year.

So, Colin, being up in New Hampshire, it shouldn't surprise me to find that you can answer yes if I ask you if there's already been some sightings up there of people who might be thinking about 2028 already.

Yes, we just got a big, big visit from J.B.

Pritzker, Governor of Illinois.

Huge speech, rankled Republicans both at the local level and the national level.

And really one of the better speeches, it was at a Democratic Party fundraiser.

The Democratic Party here tends to get pretty big names because of our first in the nation,

primary status, and I'll tell you, he had, it was pretty surprising.

He had local Democrats on their feet pretty much all night.

He had some very strong words for fellow Democrats and maybe their unwillingness to be tough on Trump, be tough in this moment.

And he also had some very strong words for the legacy Republicans are leaving behind, saying that a lot of these people are gonna have to be

have their portraits hung in the halls of tyrants and traitors and really very strong language.

Local Republicans almost likened it to violence.

It was ridiculous.

I think they were they were feeling like they had to respond strongly and kind.

But yeah, it was a it was a very, very strong speech, very strong showing and has created a lot of buzz for Pritzker, I think, nationally.

Pat Kreitlow

I appreciate the pause that you gave us when you started

to say first in the nation primary, I want to assure you Zachary and nobody else from Iowa is on this particular interview.

So we won't, we don't have to pick that fight again with Iowa starting line folks, but not

much of a fight these days,

Pat Kreitlow

but that's true.

But, but, but Kyle, your governor is term limited, right?

Gretchen Whitmer.

Correct.

And she's had a couple of, I guess I would describe them as awkward situations with Trump once in the White House and once in Michigan this week, marking the 100 days.

Now, she's term limited.

How are people, are they talking about her as somebody that we should be, Colin should be looking for her in New Hampshire one of these days, or has she already said she's going to hang up her shingle and go fishing or something?

It's interesting, this conversation of her at the White House and her interactions with Trump has been a lot of chatter lately.

I'll say this, I think that she's doing what strong governors should be doing, making sure that Michigan has a seat at the table.

These meetings with Trump, whether people like it or not, are helping to deliver results for the state.

And so, I mean, what stands out to me is the difference in leadership styles.

So Trump can rack up layoffs with chaotic trade policies.

Whitmer is in Washington making sure that Michigan gets its fair share of funding.

In terms of the future, I mean, she's focused on her job as governor through the rest of her term, but certainly leaving the door open for future things.

And I think this kind of...

reaching across the line is her attempt to maybe position herself or something in the future.

Pat Kreitlow

Maybe.

And look, you're right.

This is kind of chatter, kind of a parlor game thing.

Last one I want to ask you about is something much more definite.

And it's about Senate Democrats in Michigan wanting to invest something like a billion dollars in education.

And the number grabbed me because the Republican push for voucher schools in Wisconsin is closing in on a billion dollars.

We talked to our friends at Courier Texas

recently where Republicans very explicitly want to put a billion dollars into vouchers.

So a billion dollar investment in what I assume is mostly, if not all, public education in Michigan is kind of a refreshing counterbalance.

Yeah.

No, I mean, this is a direct response to years of underfunding and burnout.

Teachers have been leaving the profession.

Buildings are really not in great shape.

One billion dollar boost is about

getting some results and now yeah it's a it's a big moment I mean like you mentioned other places are throwing nearly a billion dollars into vouchers we're pushing to spend that same amount on public schools

Pat Kreitlow

so and by by the way Kia we're getting all of this focus on JB Pritzker and on Gretchen Whitmer you notice it's it's a focus Democrats are looking anywhere but Washington

yeah I mean I think

That is not surprising to me given what we've seen from Chuck Schumer and some of the Democratic leadership in Congress.

I think there is a widespread perception that they have not been prepared or met the moment for the second Trump administration.

And I think there's just a general dissatisfaction with...

folks in DC on both sides, but especially among the Democratic base with Democrats.

And so I think they're looking for governors, they're looking for, you know, other state level executives or just like the rare member of Congress or Senator who is actively aggressively, you know, fighting back.

I can count those people in the Senate on one hand, I feel like, and then the House maybe on two.

So, yeah, it doesn't surprise me that folks like Pritzker and Whitmer are getting more attention.

You know, Whitmer was always rumored as like a 20, you know, if Biden didn't run a good 2024 candidate.

I don't think it's a secret that she probably is not going to try to retire after she steps down as governor.

But yeah, I think there is a there's a hunger for someone to really fight back.

And that's what we're seeing with, you know, all the governors, whether they're going to New Hampshire, launching podcasts, you know, trying to secure all sorts of

trade things, it's going to be interesting to see who really takes that mantle.

Pat Kreitlow

Without a doubt, Kev Akeel, Courier Newsroom's national correspondent from LA.

You can read more at couriernewsroom.com.

Colin Booth is at the Granite Post.

Go to granitepostnews.com and Kyle Kaminski is with the Gander.

Go to gandernewsroom.com to learn more about Michigan.

Gentlemen, thank you all very much.

Appreciate it.

Have a great start to the weekend.

We will be back with more right after this on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Pat Kreitlow

Those of you of a certain age, don't pretend that you didn't jam to this with your air guitar.

This, of course, would be jukebox hero.

From foreigner.

Greg Bach

A band.

It's a band.

It's a band.

Not people.

Don't get scared.

Yeah.

Sorry,

Pat Kreitlow

folks.

That ice.

Yeah, don't.

Lou Gram is 75 today.

Don't know if you can hit this note.

Greg Bach

Maybe you can.

I don't know.

It's really weird what nowadays when like singers hit a certain age and they can't, they haven't, they've let

They were like, you know what?

I love singing like this, but you know what else?

I love drugs, alcohol and cigarettes.

So so then they're like, when they get to like of a certain age, you're like, they talk the lyrics.

He had one guitar.

Yeah.

Oh, you can't sing that anymore.

Can you?

Pat Kreitlow

No, no.

That's Neil Diamond was famous for that as he as the years advanced.

Anyway, Lou Graham, 75 today, born Louis Grammatico in Rochester, New York.

Here's somebody else that changed the name became a star Engelbert Humperdink is 89 years old today

Greg Bach

There's a stark difference

yeah,

Pat Kreitlow

I Want to hear Lou Graham sing

this And I want to hear

Pat Kreitlow

Engelbert Humperdink sing jukebox hero

Greg Bach

You're a jukebox hero, got stars in your eyes.

If

Pat Kreitlow

you ever want, yes, Engelbert Humperdink, not his birth name.

His stage name is borrowed from the German composer of the 1893 opera, Hansel and Gretel.

Wow,

Greg Bach

okay, you're cultured, sir, we get it.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah, it's Engelbert Humperdink.

It's more than Arnold Dorsey.

which is what he was born as on this day in 1936.

Greg Bach

Do you think he changed his name because there were already a few dorsies?

Yes, Jimmy

Pat Kreitlow

and Tommy and yeah, yeah, could be.

He did all right for himself.

Many a hit.

Yeah.

Many, many hotel keys and undergarments thrown up on stage and during his prime.

Look it up kids.

It's not just Elvis.

Let's see Leslie Gore of It's My Party fame.

Dr. Lyrely's favorite singer was

Kathryn Lake

born

Pat Kreitlow

this day.

in 1946.

Larry Gatlin of the Gatlin Brothers was born in Seminole, Texas, 77 years ago today.

Mika Brzezinski of MSNBC is 58 today.

Dwayne The Rock Johnson is 53 and David Beckham is 50 years old today.

We should look so good at 50.

Greg Bach

Oh, spoiler alert, I will not.

Okay.

Pat Kreitlow

On this day in 1997, the movie theater debut of Austin Powers, International Man of

Greg Bach

Mystery.

You rub it the right way to make noises.

It's like

Pat Kreitlow

when you're like the way you annoy your sister when you're pulling a plastic straw out of like the cup.

Greg Bach

Yes, exactly.

Exactly.

Exactly like that.

Pat Kreitlow

Anyway, you know, Sol Basanova, folks knew of it, but it really entered kind of the American consciousness with this movie.

But the song originally came out in 1962, the same year that the first James Bond movie came out.

that Austin Powers was spoofing as well as they did.

Still, what a great first, what a great opening sequence to

Greg Bach

a movie.

Oh yeah,

Pat Kreitlow

very fun.

Austin Powers.

Greg Bach

Don't remake them.

Don't do more.

Just let them be.

No, no.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes, let it be.

On this day in 1920, the first game of the Negro National League Baseball was played in Indianapolis.

On this day in 2011, Osama bin Laden was finally located and killed by US Special Forces in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

The number one song this week in 1987 was by cutting crew

Greg Bach

Hey,

Pat Kreitlow

you know what this one if you pull the straw out of your soda back and forth kind of make that sound too Or

Greg Bach

at least you think so

Pat Kreitlow

and then you then your sister punches you in the arm

Greg Bach

Shut up Greg.

I love this band.

They're great.

Pat Kreitlow

Oh No Cassandra puts up on YouTube

My mom never let me watch Austin Powers, so I really know nothing about it.

It's awkward when people tell jokes from it, and I'm like, what?

Greg has his hand raised.

Greg Bach

I have a solution, Cassandra.

You can take any time.

Today, tomorrow,

Pat Kreitlow

Sunday.

Yeah.

Come closer to the radio,

Greg Bach

we're going to tell you.

Come here.

Come here.

Great.

OK.

Watch the movie whenever you want now.

Because it's not.

You're growing up.

The jokes still stand.

The first one is still the best, and it's great.

So watch it this weekend.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes.

Yeah, it does.

It does definitely stand up.

On this day in 1943, you've heard of, you know, banning books.

A song was banned this day in 1943.

One that was, it had been a marching song for training some of America's airmen during the war, but it was determined that roll out the barrel was too lusty as a marching song.

In 1943, you know

Greg Bach

that roll out the barrel and I hear that song get Randy is all get out.

Pat Kreitlow

All right Cassandra says she's a Lamo because it's hard to find time to watch the movie with two little kids again Cassandra Let him watch the movie.

You can never start too young.

Greg Bach

They'll know the sexual

Sexually lace humor.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah, exactly and then have much blazing sales after that and really win parent of the year today It's days one of those days where I wonder on the national date calendar.

Did they just get

Mixed up or is this on purpose?

It's both national tuna day.

Uh-huh.

And it's national tuba day.

Nice.

And I look at that and I go, somebody just mess up and they just decide, we'll go with it.

It's both tuna day and tuba day.

So you cross pollinate that however you want.

It's also a national truffles day.

Kathryn Lake

Not the

Pat Kreitlow

mushroom.

Truffles, tuna, tuba.

The little chocolate treat.

Little chocolate balls and I'm going to leave it at that.

And then finally, somewhere along the line, this got declared as National No Pants Day.

You know, as kind of a joke, haha.

Again, in this day and age, I would not recommend.

adhering to National No Pants Day, but totally, totally your call to

Greg Bach

make.

You don't know if I'm celebrated or not right now, Pat.

Pat Kreitlow

That's,

Greg Bach

well,

Pat Kreitlow

same, same here.

The camera shoots, what it shoots.

Still to come, our week in review panel in our eight o'clock hour, Kristen Lyrely and Emily Sefos.

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