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Hey there, Wisconsin.
Good morning.
It is 6 0 6 on this Monday morning, April 28th, 2025.
Another beautiful morning to have you here up north.
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We appreciate you getting your week started right here.
I got a question for you.
has nature's alarm clock already got you up and going it does for roger out in steven's point we just put on facebook good morning pat and greg i had nature's alarm clock at 525 a booming thunderstorm that just moved past steven's point and is moving to the east uh i assume down where greg bach is in radio park the um the apocalypse hasn't arrived yet no
To which Alicia puts on YouTube.
Okay, which apocalypse are we preparing for now?
apocalypse No, no, no, no, it's not buck.
It's Brittany Merlot here at the early hour of 607 on a Monday morning if Brittany's here this early Buckle up kids because we got some severe weather movement through I mean this thing it moved through the Chippewa Valley at 2 a.m
And I mean, it announced itself.
I mean, some booming thunder.
And I'm looking at the radar map right now with all the lightning strikes basically running up the 51 corridor by and large.
Oh my goodness.
It's noisy out there.
It is noisy.
I'm surprised you can't hear it right now.
She is roaring outside.
It's just got some heavy downpours and some scary sounds at the moment.
Yeah, but preview of coming interactions.
Yes, a good warning to like heads up everyone this afternoon and evening things are going to get worse than this.
This is just the first practice round going through nothing major from it.
Nothing's been severe warned either.
The only thing I'm really thinking that could come from these first few rounds of thunderstorms this morning would probably be some quarter size hail because it is pretty cold up high in the atmosphere.
So some hail is pretty likely here this morning.
Otherwise, we're going to see some spots of sunshine today.
We're actually going to get pretty warm and muggy muggy.
Yeah, humidity is going to be leaking into the state today.
Dew points are going to hit the mid sixties.
We're looking at temperatures hitting the low eighties into southern parts of the state.
I think up north, you're going to hit some of those sixties.
Actually, you already are right now.
Ashland, it is 60 degrees right now this morning.
So yes, you can just tell that the atmosphere mother nature, she is brewing something.
Yeah,
yeah, there it is.
It is.
It's got that real soupy, you know, some, yeah, something, something is a cooking.
And it's a good reminder for folks to have, you know, a severe weather kit ready.
We don't talk about that much, but boy, you see enough clips and stuff and you go
Do I know where my flashlight is?
You know, the weather radio, the candles, the first aid kit.
Do I have some bottled water?
You know, in case things get really bad, you know, plastic sheeting.
Look at that.
You're holding onto your weather radio.
What's that?
What else you got there?
I've got it all here right now.
I've got my
weather radio ready to go.
Rock and roll.
I've got like.
Flashlights galore, ones with batteries, ones not.
I've got a power bank here too that's got a bunch
of chargers.
Oh, power bank, yeah.
Even got
a flashlight too on it, so we've kind of got wrap everything in one, but get your stuff ready.
So give us your street address.
We all know where to go now for the storm.
No, never mind.
I wouldn't come here.
I'm on the
upper level.
I've still got to figure out where I've got to take shelter, which I feel a lot of people have to still
do.
Do we really, really think about where we're going to go?
Because these tornadoes are going to be pretty strong if we do get them.
We're looking at EF2 are stronger, which is 111 to 135 mile per hour winds, which, you know, pretty much rips roofs off of homes and shift the
foundation.
The thing you think is could never happen to you.
And yet you want to be prepared anyway, because I mean, I have had friends who have, you know, they think it's just another storm coming through.
And next thing you know, part of their house is gone.
So you want to be prepared for this kind of thing so you know not not to get y'all worked up But when they've been talking about this for at least 48 hours that this part of the Midwest right here They've been saying what watch out.
So we're telling you to watch out Keep an eye
on this afternoon.
I mean if
anything pops this afternoon really between two to five I would say is that prime zone if you're getting a storm then you can get
ping pong size hail, 80 mile per hour winds.
Those could pack the biggest and the strongest tornadoes that could stay down on the ground for a little while.
So really, really just be careful.
Then we've got the cold front that's going to be moving through tonight, which is going to spark either one or two rounds of good storms coming through.
And those winds are going to be at about 70 miles per hour, possibly.
I mean, heavy downpours about an inch of rainfall and some tornadoes could be hidden inside that line as well, which is rolling through late at night, which is a
20 in the dark, which you can't see.
So those are even scarier.
But don't panic.
Just have the plan ready to go.
That's just it.
I mean, look, we are less than two years removed from having a car completely totaled by a hail storm.
So again, we know personally that these things can come up out of nowhere.
You can expect it, but you don't expect hail that size to just completely pummel your car.
So better to be prepared.
Brittany, we'll talk to you throughout the morning.
Thank you very much.
You're welcome.
All right, here's what's coming up on the program today.
We will have an update on Friday's politically motivated arrest of a Milwaukee County judge.
And as Paul Harvey would say, the rest of the story that President Trump's FBI doesn't want you to think about.
There's also a mistaken impression that our national forests are supposed to be in some kind of primeval condition that that's what all the tree huggers want.
That's not what anybody wants.
Healthy forest practices have been a standard in Wisconsin for a long time.
But with a president abusing an emergency declaration to sidestep environmental safeguards, it's easy to see why a former head of the U.S.
Forest Service from Wisconsin thinks this is a bad plan, and he will be joining us in just over an hour.
State Senator Kelder Royce joins us in our 8 a.m.
hour to tell us about a bill that is not likely to pass the legislature, but it's still important to introduce it.
so people know who's fighting to keep the government out of doctors exam rooms and protect women making their most personal health care decisions.
Also in the eight o'clock hour, a recession appears increasingly likely with a president operating an economic policy that resembles a bull in a china shop more than a coherent strategy.
We will talk to Sean O'Malley about ways to protect your retirement nest egg from the worst of a potential Trump slump.
And we will talk to Dr. Kristen Lierly and Selena Heller, both having been at the NFL Draft over the weekend.
Selena also talked to the head of the Packers Hall of Fame during Draft weekend.
Along the way, feel free to join us here at 855-75-CIVIC, 855-752-4842.
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or you can put comments on Facebook or YouTube as folks are doing already.
The aforementioned Greg Bock from the Bockpocalypse.
Is that Radio Park?
How was your weekend?
Not memorable, I guess.
No, we had shows and we're relaxing.
That was about basically it.
You know, didn't do much, which was fine by me.
It's always fine by me when a weekend is quiet when, you know, don't like to run around a whole lot.
We did see a new comedy special over the weekend on
Max.
Brett Goldstein.
Oh, I saw that live.
I saw that to her live.
He did.
Yeah.
He came to town.
Let's see here.
20.
I think it was 2024.
Yeah.
Bridget got me tickets to see him live as a Christmas present.
And it was fantastic.
I guess I still got to watch it, but it was very fun.
And I don't know if it was because he sold out both his shows.
But he put a matinee show on, so it was like a four o'clock show.
That, I mean, that is the way of the future.
I love comedy in the afternoon.
And then you get home and you're like, it's six o'clock.
Nice.
Yes.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I really enjoyed it.
You know, again, what would I give it?
I'd give it a solid B plus, you know, and I like, no, I really like him.
You know, it wasn't, you know, fall off the couch.
Funny, but it was, it was, we need, we need more comedy specials for the folks at the streaming services.
We need, we need more good ones.
Yeah, there it is.
Let's start there.
Uh, the other comedy special this weekend was the NFL draft, specifically the media hype over Shaddur Sanders.
Yeah.
I mean, I mean, wow, watching this guy.
On the board.
He was always like the best player available should do her Sanders still the best player available as it went from the first round into the second round into the third round into the fourth round and they're still listening was best player available and I'm thinking is he Is he really the best player available if he's been passed up by over a hundred and forty draft picks by the time he got chosen and it just it is a a Lesson in media hype and Dion Sanders
God bless him.
Gifted athlete.
Good coach.
Really great at media hype and telling you, this kid is it.
But as you went through the draft weekend and people were speaking on and off the record about Shaddur Sanders going, yeah, he's an okay quarterback, but, you know, he wasn't, he wasn't there.
All that in a bag of chips, as they say.
So he wasn't great in college.
He was, he was good in college, which does not necessarily translate, but apparently.
It was the interviews that really did him in kind of the, again, the overconfidence thing that comes in like, yep, I'm the guy that's going to come in and turn your team around and everything else.
And it's like, well, that's, that's a lot of sizzle, but there didn't appear to be a ton of steak going, going in on it.
Well,
I
mean, the thing I'm going to always take into consideration is that he is the son of Dion Sanders.
And I'm guessing that, that young man was raised to be.
mega confident
on the
microphone.
So like, yeah, that was, I kind of would just see, I would see notifications coming through about him.
I didn't know anything about him.
I didn't know Deon Sanders and his son.
And I was like, Oh, okay.
And then I just think to myself, well, you know, there's been a lot of guys in the NFL who got picked.
I mean, Aaron Rogers got picked real low, real low.
And look what he did.
So I'm just going to step back me like you show your, your shine, son.
If it's great, not whatever, you know.
And that's the thing that builds the next big media narrative is I mean, he was eventually picked up by Cleveland.
Yeah.
And so now it's, you know, does he hunker down?
He's got to compete against like three other quarterbacks to get a role.
You know, does he does he get a role?
Does he get on the field?
And look, again, if he if he does it all, God bless him.
Good for him, you know, rags to riches story kind of sort of, you know.
But it was just, it was a very cautionary tale.
And it's not the first time that the people making predictions about college athletes, you know, didn't translate into the draft or didn't translate into the pros.
But this one was interesting.
It's like, wow, still nobody wants this guy.
But it gave us something to watch.
And the Packers draft picks, I mean, we talked about the receiver, Golden, they picked up.
They picked up another receiver.
They picked up another couple of great players, one who was still there on Saturday on day three.
and became a big old hero to the crowd, working the crowd the way that he
did.
Oh, I was like, is he want to be on a different team now?
I mean,
no, no, he stayed, he stayed in the grid.
He was the only one left in the green room.
That's awesome.
And the Packers picked him up and he was happy and the crowd loved him.
So I'm really hoping that that works out well for him as well too.
We are talking about the Packers because there's not nearly as much good to talk about for the Bucks, for example.
They are on the verge of another humiliating first round playoff elimination at the hands of the Indiana Pacers.
The Pacers were rolling even before the Bucks game.
Lillard went out with an injury.
The Bucks lost 129-103.
They're down three to one in that best of seven series.
Meanwhile, the Brewers did finally get back, ended a
a four game losing streak.
They beat St.
Louis seven to one yesterday.
Jose Quintana struck out six over five innings.
First Brewers pitcher to win his first four starts for the team since C.C.
Sabathia in 2008.
The Brewers are off today there at Chicago to play the White Sox Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, then they are home to play the Cubs starting on Friday.
Coming up next, the latest on a Milwaukee judge arrested on Friday from the heart of America's up north live from Lake Wissota.
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Hey, good morning.
Welcome back, 7 0 6.
Nice to have you here on a Monday morning, April 28th.
It is a dark and stormy morning across parts of Wisconsin.
And so we're going to
start right away with meteorologist Brittany Merleau.
And then we'll get back to Kristen Leirle, Selina Heller, Greg Bach.
But Brittany, let's kick things off with you, because what's going through central and northern Wisconsin right now, this is just the the appetizer of
what
is yet to come coming up today.
It really is.
It's just going to wake you up a little bit.
Some rumbles of thunder, maybe some small ha...
hail and some downpours and occasion, of course, that's through central Wisconsin headed towards the Fox Valley now.
And this is the warm front lifting through the state.
I mean, we've got nice temperatures already in the low sixties off west, even up north and down south.
If you've got the rain, it's in the forties right now.
So what we're looking at this afternoon is the perfect atmosphere for thunderstorms to spark up, become severe very rapidly, and they could produce some strong tornadoes, large hail.
damaging winds and also some heavy, heavy downpours where we're at least looking at an inch of rainfall rolling through the state this afternoon and evening.
And we've got not only the round of tornado storms that could spark up this afternoon, but also a line moving through later on this evening that could have some storms and tornadoes embedded in there hidden in rain.
And as those roll through in that long about 70 mile power wind gusts are possible.
hail as well so we've got a lot to prepare for multiple rounds of storms headed our way again I think
From about three to four-ish, some of these strong ones will start to spark in southwestern parts of the state, rolling in towards the central area and hopefully starting to weaken as they move east and towards Lake Michigan this evening.
But of course, stay weather-savvy.
I just want to make sure everyone has a way to get a warning, even if you're asleep, because this line tonight could come through about 10, maybe even to midnight, into some places like Madison.
I've got a weather radio, a NOAA weather radio that kind of goes off.
It'll wake me up in case my phone isn't loud enough.
And I've got a lot of things too, like flashlights, different stuff ready to go, taking shelter in the lowest level, interior room, things like that.
You definitely want to have the plan in place now.
Don't panic.
Just have a plan in case you're in this situation because the situation could unfold rather quickly.
And of course, when you're in a panic mode, you kind of forget things.
So just practice your plan.
Know what to do.
Make sure everybody's in the loop.
Make sure your friends, your family, everybody knows to stay aware this evening.
Yeah, and look, we all who have cell phones, you know, we play with the notifications.
Sometimes we turn them off or on for this or that.
Today would be a good day at looking at what is what is your particular weather app or whatever it is that you want to use.
And if you normally have the notifications off, turn them on for today and tonight because the, you know,
that one might really be the one that affects you and you want to know all about it.
Rob says good morning from Tigerton.
It is cloudy with a thunderstorm 45 degrees.
It was a great weekend.
I got some yard work done, watched the NFL Draft.
Green Bay did an excellent job.
He says I've got my cell phone and my iPad staying charged.
He sent us a note about how they covered tornadoes with, you know,
people using their phones to call into radio stations back in the 1960s.
And Alicia writes in orange sunrise here in Seymour, as my dad always used to say, orange in the morning, sailors take warning.
And
I noticed that this morning too, Alicia, it was kind of an eerie vibe because you knew, you know, tonight is just going to be bad.
Yeah, and we mentioned the, you know, the humidity and the warmth.
And so I think everybody has that.
I mean, we don't all have like our, our left knee feels a certain way when it's going to get stormy, you know, not everybody's
like
that.
But there are definitely some conditions where almost everybody, you go outside and you go, oh.
Yeah, this feels like something's off.
It sure does.
And don't let the sunshine fool you.
We are going to see spots of sunshine.
It is going to be nice at some points this afternoon.
But that right there is the perfect mixture and fuel for these storms to get so strong.
Don't be
fooled.
And Rob Concur says that even with the thunderstorm in Tigerton, there's an orange sunrise out there as well.
So four warrants is four arms.
So thank you, Brittany, very much.
I appreciate it as always.
Let's talk a bit more about the NFL draft because Dr. Lyrely was there.
It was right there in her backyard, essentially.
And Selena Heller made the drive all the way over, cramming a kid's bike in the car.
Not for her, although she probably could get away with it, but there was what, a bike parade that that Emory could take part in over there?
What was the story there?
Oh my goodness, yes.
So my friend Erin Kotenberg, Kurt Kotenberg used to work at the station over here.
So she, we talked.
Friday night and she said there's a bike parade and the kids can be in it and so I crammed the bike in the car at like midnight.
We left here at 3.30 in the morning and we drove to Green Bay because you know that's the coolest tradition.
that the kids can participate in during Packers training camp.
It goes back to, oh my gosh, 1958.
So it's the coolest thing.
So we got there and walked a long ways.
And then
we
got to the stadium and 250 kids were in this by parade riding into Lambeau.
And it was the coolest thing.
And let's see, there are Packers alumni.
Nick Barnett, Tramon Williams, Nick Collins joined the parade also.
Let's see who else.
Packer CEO, Mark Murphy, NFL Commissioner, Roger Goodell.
They led the parade and we drove right into the draft stage.
And so it was, it was pretty
cool.
Was there anything said about the unusually tall blonde kid that was riding her bike somewhere near the back?
Were you in the bike parade?
I was not, but I love that they do this.
And if you've ever had the opportunity to see it during training camp, it is one of the most enlightening, uplifting things, especially to see these new players who are new to the community.
And suddenly they find themselves riding a child's bike and walking with their parents and having these conversations and looking at the media.
It just really, it screams community.
It's beautiful.
It really does.
I was
trying to explain it all to Emery.
You know, it was like, okay, I'm riding my bike and that's just fun enough for her.
But I had to explain and how it was so cool.
And I've always wanted you to do this, but it was a very cold morning.
So that was kind of a factor into the morning also.
So all the kids were a little cold, but it was fun.
But, you know, again, you've got a memory there.
You know, so
so that's
that's that's the nice thing about it.
Hey, just change the subject briefly.
I'd normally mention what's in our daily newsletter here.
You can sign up at UpNorthNewsWI.com.
Well, the newsletter happens to mention that it is time to start getting ready for farmers markets.
They will be, you know,
popping up around the state, the ones that aren't, you know, they're all the time.
And there includes a link to a handful of farmers markets that are so popular that you should put them on your bucket list, maybe for a road trip.
Selena, you are no stranger to the Eau Claire farmers market, I'm sure.
oh yeah we love the farmers market and you know I think farmers markets evolve into just like community events now because ours here in Eau Claire it's under the Pavilion in Phoenix Park and they've added like an artist market and entertainment and balloons and just so many different things music some days and they're just
really events, community gathering, something fun to do on a Saturday morning.
So yeah, there's so much fun to get out to.
We try to get there a lot.
Kristen, you have multiple markets that you go to?
Or is there just one standard one that you like to stop in it?
Green Bay has a wonderful market on Saturday mornings.
I came from Madison and the Madison farmers market is just off the charts.
And
I
didn't think that Green Bay was going to be able to compare, but they do.
And they have another one on Wednesday nights on the other side of the river.
So Green Bay doesn't mess around when it comes to farmers markets.
Highly encouraged, even if you're a farmers market snob like me.
Well, now I want you to come down to Kenosha and check on our.
farmers market.
Cause I think it starts outdoor next weekend or with a week after that.
And I will just say this every Saturday, you can pet some puppies.
There's a pet rescue who comes every single week and they always have anywhere between four to six puppies and they're ready to go.
Trust me.
My wife tells me every Saturday they're ready to go.
Get some coffee, a pastry, maybe some meat and a puppy.
You're
good.
Sounds like a nice lineup.
How did things go over the weekend with the Dr. Kristen Lyrely show you had Patrick McBride on?
Oh, Dr. Pat McBride.
He's a preventive cardiologist.
He's the former dean of students at the University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health.
And we talked about NIH funding, how the cuts in funding are affecting the university, not just these research studies, like a handful of research studies, but really
undermining the purpose of the university at its core.
You know, if you know about the Wisconsin idea, the Wisconsin idea means that the University of Wisconsin is where the ideas are generated, but that goes out into the community.
And in the community, through your extension offices, they bring those ideas back to the university.
to do the studies.
It's this big holistic thing that benefits every single person here in Wisconsin, and it's all at risk because of these cuts in NIH funding.
So that's what we mostly talked about, but we definitely had to get into some Wisconsin sports as well.
And he shared some fond memories of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Junior Bridgeman.
Got a little tearful.
So you'll be doing this again next Saturday based out of the Green Bay Civic Media radio station.
Yeah, next Saturday we're going to talk with Sheboygan Mayor Ryan Sorensen and some other folks from the Sheboygan area.
We're going to be talking about what's happening with childcare and how it doesn't just affect families who need childcare right now, but it affects entire communities.
So that's going to be a really interesting conversation from lots of different perspectives.
Okay, so look over at the Civic Media website.
that you has to learn a bit more about that.
Hey, Selena, you mentioned talking to the curator of the Packers Hall of Fame, somebody that you knew from your Black River Falls backyard.
And so I thought we've got just enough time to maybe hear, you know, a clip about some of the draft stuff there.
Can you set that up?
Sure.
Yeah, Brent Hensel is from Black River Falls, and we went to high school together.
And I thought, oh, my gosh, what a great time to talk to Brent about the museum.
all the things going on there.
So let's see.
Do you want to hear that now, Pat?
Yes.
Yeah.
What
are we going to hear?
All right.
I think let's see the first time he talks about what did we talk about first?
Well, we'll play it and then you can tell us what we heard.
All right.
Hit it, Greg.
I'm always thinking about the history and long term.
So one of the things I got to do this week was
go through the NFL stage in the green room.
It was well before the draft.
There wasn't anywhere near there during the draft, but we got to request certain things like huge banners and like a phone from the green room.
And then 10 years from now or 20 years from now, if we will look back at this moment when Green Bay hosted the draft, we will have artifacts.
So working on getting stuff, trying to get Mark Murphy's speech that when he read off his notes from the first night, so that that's one of the things I do.
Like since I have, and Lambeau Field now is hosting more and more events that aren't necessarily football, like we had a soccer match a few years ago, we've had the Badgers.
So I'm always trying to collect, because you never know what you might turn into an exhibit in the future.
That's true.
You got to be ready for for everything there from from Brent.
So that's what he had to say Selena.
That's what we're talking about.
Okay, I didn't know which one was first.
So yes, Packers go back 105 years.
So Brent has a big job of saving all of that history and and he wanted to save things from the draft too for people later, like he said.
So that was pretty neat.
And then we talked about well,
We'll
talk a
little more about it in a little bit.
Let's take a break here.
Still to come, we have a former head of the U.S.
Forest Service coming on to talk about President Trump opening up national forests to more commercial logging.
We'll have more live from Chippewa Falls.
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It's cloudy, but it's getting brighter out there.
Nothing like the...
storm that was going through around 2am which then made its way to central wisconsin and continues on the warpath here meteorologist britney merleau joins us right off the top to talk about that and then what's coming up a little bit later which could be a little stronger louder attention grabbing if nothing else so she'll be tracking that throughout the day so you should be listening for updates throughout the day but britney where's where's the current activity right about now
Absolutely.
So what we've got going on right now is those rain still coming down, some frequent lightning actually cloud to ground with some big rolls of thunder going on right now into Wausau, moving towards Antigo.
And also there's a storm right now that's got some pea sized hail into Appleton and rolling up I-41 towards Green Bay.
So heads up for that.
It's not severe warned.
Nothing is at the moment.
This is just our heads up round as the warm front moves into the state.
So what we've got going on this afternoon is it's going to be breezy.
Winds are going to be pulling out of the south, warming us up.
They're going to be gusting around 30 to 40 miles per hour.
It's going to get muggy.
It's going to get pretty humid in some places, especially west and south.
And we are looking at temperatures hitting into the 80s for the southern parts of the state, probably some 60s up north.
And of course, this afternoon, if any thunderstorm, especially if it's all alone, isolated by itself, if that sparks around two, three, four o'clock this afternoon, keep an eye on it.
Those have the potential to rapidly turn severe, bringing large hail, high wind gusts, and the environment is perfect for a tornado today.
We're probably gonna see some tornado watches going out.
That means just be ready.
The conditions are right.
I'm telling you right now that they are.
And if a tornado warning goes out, that means that it's actually seen by someone.
A tornado is on the ground or it is seen on radar where we're seeing strong winds in a small area coming at the radar and away from it.
So that pretty much signifies a twister out there.
So if you have a tornado warning in your area throughout this evening or even into the overnight, you need to have a heads up.
because we have multiple waves of storms going through.
Only the first round starts in the afternoon.
We've got a cold front that still moves through this evening, probably around six o'clock starting far northwest, moving its way through central areas through the evening after dark.
And this line too could have tornadoes embedded in it, which would be rain wrapped.
You wouldn't see them anyways because it's dark.
Hail, large hail is expected with this one and also some wind gusts up to 70 miles per hour are possible.
We've got a lot going on.
I mean, you can feel it out there today.
It's so warm and so muggy, so rapidly.
These are all the ingredients for these strong storms.
And in fact, the Storm Prediction Center has put a good chunk of Wisconsin in the bullseye in a moderate risk, which is a four out of five on that risk scale.
doesn't get much worse really.
So we really need to keep our heads up and the entire state is at least in an enhanced risk.
It does lessen a little bit as we move away from central Wisconsin into eastern areas.
So hopefully those storms will weaken as they move through and move east, but otherwise I would just keep an eye out everywhere today because we could have a regional outbreak.
Yeah,
just pay attention.
That's all we're telling you today is this, this would not be the way we don't want anybody afterwards going, I had no idea this was, it's not going to sneak up on us today.
Not with these conditions out there.
No.
All right, Brittany, thank you very much.
Have a great day.
We'll talk to you a little later.
Oh, wait, before I let you go, Dana and LaCrosse on the text line.
Do we know which direction the strongest winds will be coming from?
Um, are we talking about just today?
Those will be out of the south.
If we're talking about in a storm, the storm is going to be moving from west to east, probably moving at about 50 miles per hour in those lines coming through.
Okay.
So south and west, uh, you want to be mindful of.
Yes.
Okay.
I don't know if they're moving patio furniture or just want to know
where where
where to be in the basement but we wanted to answer that question from Dana.
Alright, thanks Brittany.
Appreciate it very much.
You're welcome.
Hey, you can sign up for our oh wait, Robin Tigerton by the way also notes heavy rain and pea size hail in Tigerton around seven fifty this morning.
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And of course, we had yesterday's issue all about the arrest by Donald Trump's FBI of Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Duggan on Friday morning.
felony charges claiming that she intentionally misdirected federal agents away from an undocumented immigrant that they were trying to arrest at her courthouse on April 18th.
Now this is the latest in a two-part power play by Donald Trump against the judicial system.
He is seeking to not be held accountable
by judges who rule against some of his actions, I mean, define even the US Supreme Court at times.
And at the same time, he is seeking to intimidate judges and others in the legal system who are trying to maintain an independent and co-equal branch of government.
Federal officers have repeatedly been coming to local courthouses.
to take alleged undocumented immigrants into custody and it's a practice that's been criticized by judges and others who note the dangers to public safety.
Not just any disturbance inside of a courthouse, for example, but the fear as well that people will just stop showing up when they've been charged with crimes and become fugitives and the people who will not report crimes.
for fear that they will be arrested and deported.
And frankly, that's something that would affect all of us if the only witness to a crime that affected us were an undocumented immigrant.
So Judge Dugan was angered that federal agents were once again crowding the courthouse hallway, causing disruptions in the court calendar, including a case for Eduardo Flores Ruiz, an undocumented immigrant who was in court as part of a fight with his roommate over music volume.
And federal agents showed up believing that he was an undocumented immigrant and wanted to arrest him.
We're all there in the hallway.
The Judge Dugan instructed Flores Ruiz to use a different door to still exit into the public hallway.
For whatever reason, the agents did not make an arrest right away.
They simply watched as Flores Ruiz walked into an elevator and out of the building, agents approached him outside the courthouse.
He tried to run away and was taken into custody.
But for folks who were telling you that the judge is leading him like some secret elevator through some secret door and out into the street and she held his hand and helped him across the street and everything else, no.
It's, there's the door, use it, go out into that public hallway.
I've got a courtroom to run here.
The reaction was swift from both sides of the partisan aisle, Democrats calling it an overreach, gravely serious, weaponizing law enforcement.
Republicans, meanwhile, say that they may attempt to remove Judge Duggan from office.
And in doing so, those Republicans would simply assist Trump with his intimidation campaign against judges.
So it's a story we will continue to follow here on civic media and, of course, over at Up North News as well.
8-14, quick check of sports here.
The Brewers were winners, snapping that four game losing streak by finally beating the St.
Louis Cardinals yesterday, seven to one.
Christian Yelich had two hits, two RBIs, Jackson Churio two hits, Jose Quintana struck out six over five innings, allowing one run on five hits and he becomes the first Brewer pitcher to win his first four starts with the team since CeCe Sabathia in 2008.
The Brewers are off today, they are on the south side.
of Chicago tomorrow to play the White Sox Tuesday Wednesday Thursday.
They are back home against the Cubs starting on Friday.
The Milwaukee Bucks are on the verge of another humiliating first round playoff elimination at the hands of the Indiana Pacers.
They lost 129 to 103 last night to go down three games to one to Indiana.
Dame Lillard went out with what is feared to be an injured Achilles.
Game five is the early evening game tomorrow in Indianapolis.
So there are plenty of concerns that this American economy is either on the verge of a recession or is there, and of course, you don't know a recession the moment it hits.
It's a backward-looking statistic.
You have to have like a quarter or two of negative growth before it's officially called a recession.
Maybe we're there already.
I mean, there are ports in this country normally teaming with ships bringing in goods from China.
Those ports are...
nearly empty according to some reports.
That's going to lead to empty store shelves.
What happens if a recession does hit, especially as we've all been watching retirement or as soon as we've been watching Wall Street?
What does this mean for your retirement?
We've talked to Sean O'Malley in the past with his work as a compliance officer on Wall Street, but he also works in financial planning and we asked him to come back and talk to us a bit about protecting your nest egg as well.
Sean, welcome back.
How are you?
Thanks for having me back at doing well.
Just crossing my fingers with the weather forecast.
See what Brittany can do for some good weather here in western Wisconsin.
We are definitely hoping for that.
So look, it's always tough.
We're updating our finances over the weekend and watching how much things had gone down from January 1st to March 31st to the end of the quarter.
Again, every individual is different, but from a 30,000 foot level, what's your advice, especially to folks approaching or approaching retirement about minimizing the damage to that nest egg if the economy takes a downturn?
Yeah, that's a concern that I think a lot of Americans have given the overall uncertainty right now.
And that's certainly reflected in how consumers
are approaching the marketplace.
Consumer confidence is at its lowest in 12 years.
So people are not feeling comfortable.
We're seeing this reflected in a lot of different ways.
People are changing.
They're buying patterns, spending patterns.
And yes, there's also the very real concern of...
what's the ultimate impact going to be of the tariffs, particularly when you look at the tariffs that we're dealing with against China, where are you tracking out 145%.
So there's a lot of uncertainty out there.
There are a lot of unknowns.
My best advice for the personal investor is when you don't see any good opportunities to buy something,
Go with something that is basically as conservative as possible I'm a big advocate for money market funds when you're just not really sure or comfortable It that it's a good time to get into stocks necessarily I would say there's a lot of volatility there.
There are a lot of unknowns We don't know especially if we do wind up going into a recession which as you correctly point out It's always a backwards-looking measure, but
a lot of the tariffs seem to be sitting up in an environment where the likelihood of recession has increased.
And if you look at most of the forecasts from the big houses on Wall Street, that number has gone from single digits, maybe 10% up to 45, 50, in some cases, 60% for a recession this year.
So not a great time to buy stocks.
Unfortunately, also not a great time to buy bonds.
Either you're seeing demand for American assets really go down across the board internationally.
And so what's happening is that there are fewer buyers for American Treasury bonds and corporate bonds.
A lot of the foreign countries are sort of shying away from American assets in general, which is, of course, driving up the yields.
Was yields go up?
Prices go down.
but will prices continue to go down or will they come back up?
And that's the question mark.
And you don't want
to gamble.
Right, it gets to that expression, never try to catch a falling knife.
Sean O'Malley is with us right now, still ahead this hour.
Senator Kelder Roy is on a bill about protecting women's most private health care decisions.
And Jane McNair on the way as well.
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Nobody's advocating for illegal criminals.
Let's get back to the facts again of what we're facing in our economic situation with Sean O'Malley and we've been talking a bit about personal finances before we turn back to the general economy at large.
And John, as you were saying before the break, I mean, there's not a lot of safe harbors, but you can try to steer people toward the closest thing that we can find to them.
And when you talk about, this isn't really a great buying opportunity.
And yet there are people that do try to do it.
And that's why I mentioned that phrase, don't try to catch a falling knife.
For folks that haven't heard that, tell us why that.
That's actually pretty good financial advice.
Yeah, that is excellent financial advice.
And one of the main reasons is that no one can time the market.
People who try to time the market are those who often wind up.
at least getting suboptimal performance, or at least not as good a performance as they would get, is if they just bought a particular, say, you know, broad market index fund like this, a B500 index fund, and just left it long.
If you're going in and out, you're going to wind up losing a lot of opportunities.
There was a study done a number of years ago that said,
Compared the the performance of something like the S&P 500 in this case was the S&P 500 and if you'd missed the 25 best days and what the difference would be in your returns and it was It was a huge huge difference as you might expect so the set it and forget it mentality is I think important especially in times of uncertainty I'm getting personal texts and calls from
you know friends who look to me for advice saying what should I do I'm worried that we're down and my advice is you know at this point you are where you are just ride it out if you have new money coming in that's when I was suggesting you know go more money market don't necessarily try to catch that falling knife because it can cut you for sure.
And it does a lot of investors.
And that too is where in talking to folks, I've kind of said the same thing.
I'm like, look, I have every intention of outliving Donald Trump.
And whatever this is, this cast that he's brought, and all of us who are going to outlive this will reap the benefits in the long run.
It is going to be very stressful to look at things on a day-to-day basis.
Now, we do it as part of the daily news.
But that's different than a long-term financial strategy.
But to come back to the daily news for a moment, I mentioned the reports of severely decreased traffic in our ports.
And you were noting to me that just from a corporate standpoint alone, places like auto manufacturers are starting to make adjustments as well.
Yeah, that's correct.
We've seen the first major decision from
an international automaker, in this case Subaru.
They have a large facility in Indiana.
They're looking primarily at the Outback vehicle in this, but a lot of the vehicles made at that Indiana plant are sold to Canada, unfortunately now.
due to the tariffs that Trump put on Canada of 25% and the reciprocal tariffs that Canada has now put on US made vehicles going into Canada of also 25%.
Subaru has decided that rather than having Canadian sold vehicles be US made, they're going to take Japanese made Subaru outbacks and ship those to Canada to be sold in Canada to avoid.
the punitive 25% tariff.
We've also seen as well that states have been fighting back on this and have been filing lawsuits.
Businesses have been doing the same.
So again, this is something Trump has been trying to do unilaterally with a Congress that is either complicit or non-existent.
But if you're going to try to follow all of the comings and goings of these tariffs and these budget cuts, you have to watch
whole lot of courthouses as well.
So I mean it really does again say you know stay up to date on things but you can't you you just can't over manage or micromanage or over worry this thing.
It just know that it's not great but that you know again thankfully we've got some general advice like what you're giving and hope you don't mind stopping in on a few more Mondays now and then and before the opening bell we'll find out what you're thinking as we head into things.
Yeah, be my pleasure.
Absolutely.
One thing to keep in mind for this week to watch out for is the non-farm payroll number, which comes out at 30 every Friday, Eastern Standard Time.
That's going to be a good indicator of what's going on with the jobs market.
So we'll be staying tuned to that for this Friday, and we can chat about it on
Monday.
Yeah, looking forward to it.
Sean O'Malley, thank you so much.
Appreciate it.
Have a good start to the week.
Thank you.
All right.
Hey, coming up just ahead here, we're going to have Senator Keldoroyce talking about a bill or bills that
aren't necessarily going to pass the legislature, but it's important that they be introduced anyway so that people know who is fighting for their health care rights and some of the most personal decisions that they make.
And then a little bit later, Jane McNair will be here to tell us what to expect on McNair on air in its new time slot from 9 to 11, right after our program here.
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There includes an article about all the farmers markets that you can find around Wisconsin, many that will be opening soon.
And some of the biggest ones that you might want to put on your road trip bucket list, perhaps none more so than the one in the district of our next guest here, State Senator Calderois, who joins us from up in the Hayward area where the Joint Finance Committee is going to be meeting to talk about the state budget.
So we're going to talk about the state budget.
We're going to talk about women's health.
But since we were just talking about farmers markets and your backyard, we're going to first.
Say good morning to Keldon.
Talk about how envious we are that that big old market that wraps all around the state capital building is right there in your backyard.
It is a must do and it's always so much fun to go even with my kids who run around like crazy people and just demand
sweets.
You know what?
I run around there like a crazy person.
Not for the sweets so much but for the spicy cheese bread.
that's
yeah and the fresh cheese curds I mean there's just so many great things
there it's it's just uh just amazing uh okay well let's let's start on a very serious topic here and then we're going to get to joint finance and the women's health but this politically motivated arrest of a milwaukee county judge on friday uh perhaps might have been an even bigger splash publicly if it weren't for a friday but i i
Don't think that the anger over it is going to be dissipating.
I think it's only going to grow as more people, especially those who are Republican leaning, go, this is not what they say it is.
This is something that's not cool, arresting a judge.
And that's the most flippant way I can put it, saying it's not cool.
It's serious, Kelda.
It's very serious.
I mean, as an attorney, I read the criminal complaint, so-called complaint from the FBI agent, and there's really
nothing there.
They didn't like that she was angry that they were showing up in her courtroom to try to arrest and deport someone who was appearing there.
I mean, we all have an interest in society and people being willing to come to court.
If you have been victimized, if you are a witness and you need to testify against somebody in a criminal trial, if you need to show up to court for family law, everybody deserves to be able to have their day in court.
And that includes people who are immigrants, whether they're documented or not.
And to turn the courthouse into a place where people are getting arrested and judges who are trying to administer justice are being hauled off in handcuffs in an attempt to intimidate them, that is very scary.
That is one of the clearest signals we have that they are marching full forward towards authoritarianism.
And to second that notion, not just the authoritarianism, but the intimidation, it's not as if they don't know where a lot of these folks are or have been.
They may see that they are in court records.
And even then, they could certainly try to arrest them outside of the courthouse.
But to do this right outside a judge's chamber, right outside a courtroom, can't be interpreted any other way than an authoritarian intimidation tactic.
Absolutely.
And as Ann Jacobs pointed out, the door that they went through went to a public hallway.
And one of the agents actually rode the elevator with the person, but didn't arrest him in the elevator.
And, you know, they kind of manufactured this situation because they wanted to make an example of her.
And I think it has a lot to do with also deflecting attention from the fact that they have deported numerous children, United States citizens, babies, some of whom were suffering from cancer.
And they just put them on a plane to another country with no medication and no
support.
It is the things that we're going to continue to learn.
But again, you have these these kinds of diversions.
And frankly, it was reading the interpretation for man, Jacobs, who's the chair of the Wisconsin Elections Commission, and just a top notch lawyer.
And you read through that.
And you realize I'm not going to say it was a setup.
But and let me hasten to add one thing here.
When people go, oh, it's Democrats.
You just don't want, you don't mind.
They could do anything.
No, there are things that this judge or any other judge could could be doing where we would say, no, no, no, no, no, you may not have liked the situation, but you can't do that.
But pointing somebody toward a door that didn't continue to cause the chaos outside her courthouse.
You know that that just takes things a you know to a whole different level, which is why we wanted to have the discussion that we did Let's
cover
while you're up in Hayward and wassa as a member of the joint finance committee going over the state budget Where people can again have their public input.
I'm sure you expect a busy day.
What do you what are you expecting to hear?
Well, I'm expecting to hear from people all over northern Wisconsin about how important it is for us to be funding our k-12 public schools We know that Republicans have put our
public schools and our kids on a starvation diet for 15 years.
Meanwhile, they've been shoveling massive tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires and taking money out of the public school system to put it in the private, unaccountable voucher schools.
People are mad all over the state when they talk about what it means for their kids to have these underfunded schools, what it's doing to our teachers and it's causing a crisis in education.
People are also concerned about childcare, very concerned about potential cuts to badger care.
And of course, all the chaos and corruption and fiscal mismanagement that we do for public administration.
And so folks want to, if they can't be in Hayward today or Wausau tomorrow, we've mentioned this several times.
There is an email address that you can use to give legislators on the Joint Finance Committee your input.
And it goes like this, budget.comments.
budget.comments at legislegis for legislature legis.wisconsin.gov one more time budget.comments at legis.wisconsin.gov Kelda as a state senator for you former state senator to me uh you and I both know those emails do not go into a black hole there there is significance in significance in letting people know letting legislators know what you think
absolutely and in the aggregate
You know, it's very, very clear to see what people care about and what they want our state government to fund and that Republicans haven't been doing it.
No, and sometimes not necessarily on a dime, but sometimes you see a change of heart or a change in position.
And I would point toward the recent vote in the state Senate overwhelmingly to extend postpartum care, postpartum Medicaid coverage to women for 12 months, postpartum, not just 60 days.
Now, there's still an uphill battle to get past Speaker Voss in the Assembly.
So we can talk about the merits of the issue, but I guess just from the standpoint of there are still things that can become increasingly bipartisan if people continue to know what they think their lawmaker should be doing, they can make a difference.
That's absolutely right.
And several years ago, you really didn't have Republicans standing up for new moms on badger care.
They were fine to let...
our state kicked new moms off 60 days after giving birth.
But over time, I think the public pressure has grown so great.
I mean, it's so cool.
And we have kind of a third world infant and maternal mortality rate driven in large part by the lack of health care and health insurance coverage for new moms, especially low-income moms who often have to go right back to work with no leave.
And over time, the Republicans have responded to that pressure.
But it remains to be seen whether they're willing to actually stand up for their convictions, stand up for these new moms, or they're just going to let the speaker continue to block it and hide behind him.
And there are two ways that they could pass this bill even over the speaker's objections.
The first is they could put it in the budget.
They don't need a single assembly Republican.
They have all the Senate Democratic votes and assembly Democratic votes, and every Senate Republican who already voted for it.
We could put it in the budget.
today.
Well not today because we're not voting but we could certainly keep it in the budget.
The other thing they could do is they could try to pull the bill in the assembly onto the floor out of committee.
Now they would have to break ranks and they would have to say no Voss this is more important than your power plays and it remains to be seen whether Republicans are willing to do
that.
This is you know something that I first heard about last week and I think from you or somebody quoting you about the whole notion of
just put it in the budget bill.
And by the way, for folks who go, oh, no, the Republicans, they only strip all policy out of the budget bill.
No, they don't.
They strip out the policy they don't like.
This is something this is something that still could very easily go in the budget bill.
And it would be a great way for Republicans on the Joint Finance Committee who want to just send a little message to Robin Voss saying, this is so overwhelmingly bipartisan that,
you
know, we're not letting you wield all the power on this one.
Absolutely.
Let's talk about the bill that would remove abortion care restrictions, restore health care rights in Wisconsin.
What's in the legislation that you and others have introduced?
We just launched the Abortion Rights Restoration Act, and this bill does a number of really important things.
Number one, it puts in the state statute that you and I all have a right to bodily autonomy.
We get to make our own health care decisions, including abortion.
Number two, it repeals that horrible 1849 law that bans virtually all abortion in the state.
And number three, it repeals a lot of the Walker era restrictions that made abortion so difficult for people to get, so burdensome and so much more expensive that even under Roe v. Wade, many women did not functionally have the true right to access abortion.
So it does all those three things and basically says there's never a circumstance, there's never a time
when a politician knows better than you and your doctor, what's best for you and your life and your circumstances.
Now, this is again, a case of a bill that I'm going to safely predict is not going to be passed into law.
And yet, I know,
I know, I'm such a negative Nancy.
But there's a reason why you still introduce things like these.
So allow me to put that ball on the tee.
Why, why even put these bills in the hopper?
Because I think it's really important for the voters who elected us and handed Democrats enormous victories in the legislature to know that we're fighting for them.
We're not giving up on this issue.
We also need to put pressure on these Republicans.
You know, abortion is popular.
It's way more popular than the Republican Party right now.
81% of people want this to be a private decision between a patient and a doctor, not a political one where you've got Republican politicians inserting themselves.
So their position is deeply unpopular.
And I think it's up to us to force the issue and make them talk about it.
And, you know, within 24 hours of releasing that bill, we had one state rep.
put out a really unhinged press release attacking me and comparing abortion rights to the Holocaust and people who have abortions to Hitler.
I mean, it was it was crazy unhinged.
And I think it's important that people see that because it does inform how active they are and their voting decision.
And you do see this in floor debates.
I know that Dr. Kristen Lyrely and I two years ago in the budget during the floor debate, we brought up these excerpts from Republicans.
You know, one of them said, well, as a as a veterinarian, I know more about the, you know, the biology of birth than almost anybody in this chamber and other similar ridiculousness.
So it is important that these bills are introduced, that they're talked about, which is why we have civic media.
It's why we have up north news is to say, look, a lot of a lot of mainstream.
media sites are simply not talking about these kinds of things.
And you deserve to know what these legislators are introducing and what the significance would be.
And the last thing, Kelda, would be that this is not, this is actually standing up for a position and not some kind of a move toward the mushy middle, which I know a lot of Democrats get pinged on.
This is not just, well, we'll keep these restrictions, but not these.
It's, no, this is a right is a right.
Absolutely.
And you know, when we see in other states and even in Wisconsin after Dobbs,
women being turned away from hospital emergency rooms, women being forced to bleed out and go septic in a Walmart parking lot, that is a nightmare.
And the more people see of the anti-choice hellscape that these Republican extremists wanna create for us, the less they want of it.
And I think it's really important that people will vote for elected officials, even if they don't agree with every single thing that person believes in, just diverse country, right?
We're never gonna agree 100% on anything.
They want politicians who are going to stand up for what they believe
in.
There you go.
Kilda Rice.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
We'll talk
again real soon.
All right.
I'm Pat Critello reminding you that it's all about every one of those words in our national promise, liberty and justice for all.
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These three-hour shows are busy ones.
Here's what we've got tomorrow.
Dan Schaefer starts a regular stint with us to talk more about stories to watch for in Wisconsin politics this week.
Green Bay Mayor Eric Gennrich will talk about what Democrats need to do differently to win in 2026.
On Wednesday, should Wisconsin utilities get an advantage when it comes to new transmission line projects?
On Thursday, days of action around the country for May Day.
from people who are cheesed off about Trump's first 100 days.
And on Friday, Brian Kennedy, mayor of Glendale, heads a national organization of local elected leaders, encouraging others to run for office.
Y'all should run for something at least once out there, school board, town board, whatever the case may be, and engage in a public service.
Jane McNair engages in public service every weekday morning from 9 to 11, along with Greg Bach.
Along with Sam over there, who's in Madison, making sure we actually stay on air, despite my internet outages here in Chippewa Falls.
So Jane, good morning.
It is nice to see and hear you.
How was your weekend?
Weekend was good.
Pat, quite low.
And I'm loving your three hour show, by the way, because I listen all the way down and it's great.
Really?
You're doing a great job.
It sounds
fantastic.
I'm now looking forward to the daily emails with your critiques and say, do this, do this, do that differently.
Bring this person in.
No,
you
sound fantastic.
Oh, no, I thrive on the feedback.
Not just the little trolls over here in the comment section, but you know, some of the other stuff as well.
So it'll be fun.
I would imagine that among the topics on Matt and Aaron here that you and Greg will be discussing deals with the rest of that Milwaukee.
County Judge on Friday.
We are.
We're going to start off talking about Judge Dugan and the process moving on.
And I also found, I think it's very interesting when I like to check the letters to the editor in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
And there are a number of people checking in on both sides of this.
And many people are on Judge Dugan's side saying that
Essentially, she did nothing wrong, and it is important for us to stand up to the Trump administration and then others saying, lock her up forever.
And let's just, you know, do process, do schmosses, whatever.
So, yeah.
So we will be starting off with that.
And then we did want to do a little break, and we've been meaning to talk about this for a couple of weeks.
You know what it's like, Pat.
The new cycle changes so rapidly and things happen so quickly, sometimes things get bumped.
And we did want to talk about this resignation at 60 minutes and CBS.
So we're going to be talking about that coming up around 1020.
And by the Trump administration, the effect is having on journalism.
I tell you what, what Scott Pelley had to say, essentially spanking their new corporate parent on air like that was, I mean, just perfect.
It was an absolute golden moment for journalism.
Yep.
And so I'm glad to hear that you are talking about that as well.
And to come back to Judge Duggan's arrest for a moment, I'll say, I said it early in the hour, but I'm going to say it again.
There are most definitely conditions where you and I and others would say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, judge cannot do that.
That is, that is a step too far.
Directing them out a different door into the same public hallway.
That ain't it.
And if that was her way of saying to these guys,
I don't need to make your job any easier.
He's not coming out the main door.
He's coming out that door.
And they're still watching him go right into an elevator.
I mean, again, there is a line that judge could have crossed this ain't it.
Yeah, I agree with you.
It's not like she gave him a disguise and then let him out a different secret hallway.
And the other thing too, and I find this a little bit disturbing and looking at some of the reporting on this, a lot of the stories lack the detail that
He went out into the public hall way where there were ICE agents and the one that rode down in the elevator with him.
That's kind of missing from some other reporting that I've seen.
That seems like kind of an important detail.
No, it doesn't lock her up forever.
Lock her up and throw it.
Lock them all up, Jane.
I know.
I'm just imagining that the Greg Bach disguise, you know, they just she puts a beard on them and the hair and the glasses and says, now you go down.
I'll never recognize you.
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, go ahead.
And then later on, we're gonna be talking to Will Westmoreland.
He joined us a couple of months ago.
He has a channel on YouTube called the back 40.
And he is a farmer in southwestern Wisconsin, essentially a blue dot surrounded by lots of red.
He's in Missouri, though.
Oh, he's in Missouri, Southwestern, Missouri.
Yeah.
And
what that's like and what he's hearing.
He kind of went viral responding to a young farmer who was freaking out about the tariffs.
And so we're going to have a little update with Will Westmoreland and what he's hearing from the farmers in his area.
And this is somebody in
Missouri?
Yes.
We had a guest, uh, Jess Piper on from Missouri, uh, some time ago now, but who started a group called dirt road Democrats to remind folks that there, there are still plenty of
real
Democrats out there.
They
just, they all feel like they're the only one.
Yeah.
And so consequently they're, they're maybe not as, as active as they could be.
And she's trying to help them all see where you all are still out there.
And it's, it's okay to be public about what is, what is not going.
right out there.
Thanks to these tariffs, lack of due process, everything else.
Did you watch any of the draft since it was in Green Bay?
I never
left my house.
I was glued to my television.
Okay, that's a blatant lie.
Sarcasm.
Yeah, I did not watch the draft.
That's okay.
What did you I'm delighted that I'm delighted that things went well for Green Bay and the city looked wonderful.
And I hope people went away with great impressions of Green Bay and Wisconsin.
That's fantastic.
I guess I miss it.
I don't understand the hype.
Well, you know, I do have to agree.
I'm glad it was a big event, but especially once you got past the first round, it's you're literally watching a hundred thousand or more, more people standing in a parking lot as they read off names.
Okay.
Yes.
I mean, even as a TV show, I'm like,
I'm not going to watch this.
This is why I was
watching just to see if Shaddur Sanders was ever going to be picked.
But literally, that was it for that.
But again, a lot of people want to be there.
Great economic impact.
Great.
It worked
out well.
B2.
So there's our scintillating sports talk for this hour.
Jane Mattener and Greg Bach are back for Mattener and Eric coming up next.
Thank you, Jane.
Thanks, Pat.
Greg, we'll see you in the morning.
Sam,
thanks
as always.
Appreciate it.
And thanks again to all of today's guests.
Kelderoy's, Kristen Lyrely, Selena Heller, Joe Hovel, Mike Dombeck, Sean O'Malley, and all of you for being here this morning.
I'm Pat Critello, founding editor of Up North News, the Wisconsin Home for Courier Newsroom, a pro-democracy newsroom, building a more informed, engaged, and representative America.
Have a great day.
