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Ask Jeeves What Happened to Alta Vista (Hour 1)
Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Wed Apr 23, 2025
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Now, from our Lake WSOTA studio, here is the founding editor of Up North News, Pat Crichtlow.
And good morning to you, Wisconsin.
Like the man said, I'm Pat Krightlow.
It is 6 0 6 on this Wednesday morning, April 23 2025.
It's another beautiful morning to have you here up north.
We're still up north live from Lake Wissota from wherever you're spending your mornings listening across the civic media radio network on the civic media app, catching us on YouTube or Facebook.
We've even got a new YouTube page that we're on this morning.
Or maybe you're listening later on by podcast.
Thanks for starting your day and our new
chapter right here.
I got a question for you.
Are you ready for more of this?
There's a lot that's the same same guy.
But you know, new new show title.
Let's see new graphics over here.
There's some new music.
There's more guests and the same old
Pat and Greg, I mean the best stuff that you liked from the show is still here with a few new things as well.
There's Greg now clearing his pipes and getting ready for another day of broadcasting.
How are we doing today?
I'm doing beachy king, Pat.
Ah, you big liar.
We we ran this thing right up until the finish line.
Like every other new project.
I mean, like, OK, is the paint dry yet?
I don't know.
But if the paint's on the wall, let's go.
Is the paint dry?
Well, I'm sitting anyway.
So there we go.
Might need some new pants afterwards.
But hey, we're here for three hours every morning.
from six to nine buy me a Coke.
And we've got we've we have packed a lot into the program this morning.
Let me tell you all about it.
It's a bigger show.
It's more expansive or in some additional areas where people can hear us.
And at the bottom line of all of it.
is that this is still anchored by the guy who started Up North News and still works for Up North News and Courier Newsroom is the parent company of Up North News and this is still done in full partnership with Civic Media.
We've enjoyed this so much that we got together and said, hey, let's let's make this a let's extend the deal and let's spruce up the place a little bit.
So that's what we did and we thank you for being here.
So coming up today
We'll talk about how taxpayers in Green Bay will be getting better transparency on their property tax bills about school costs, especially and specifically how much money is skimmed off the top of what's supposed to go to public schools and is diverted to private schools through an expensive voucher program.
We will hear from Green Bay Mayor Eric Enric.
We will talk to State Representative Ahmaud Rivera-Wagner and Denise Gomer Hutchinson from the Wisconsin Public Education Network all about that.
That's all part of our homeroom segment.
And we'll also talk to the Representative and to the Mayor about tomorrow's NFL draft happening at Lambeau Field.
In our new third hour at 8 a.m.
we'll get to know another of the candidates running to be chair of the State Democratic Party.
And that would be William Garcia from Western Wisconsin.
We'll have a little fun with the remembering the early days of the internet when the information superhighway was more like a gravel road by comparison.
I mean, at the time, Alta Vista, Ask Jeeves, Compuserve, those were some of the superstars for early users.
And so we'll ask you how many others you might remember along the way.
And of course, with us expanding into the eight o'clock hour now,
A few more folks might be awake, bright-eyed, bushy-tailed, and want to hop on the phones.
You can do that at 855-75 Civic throughout the show, 855-752-4842.
You can always call or text us through the Civic Media app as well, or you can put a comment on Facebook or YouTube.
For example, Alicia writes on YouTube, yay, new stuff.
We do indeed.
And on Facebook from Kirk Bankstead and the folks at the Monaco Brewing Company, congrats, Pat.
Wisconsin, thanks you for your dedication to the truth and sanity in these dark times.
Thank you guys.
I appreciate that very, very much as well.
One change that you'll notice not in this hour, but in our seven and eight o'clock hours is that we will now have some
real estate, basically, where some of our local stations across the Civic Media radio network will insert their own local programming.
So let me pull back the curtain a little bit and tell you what I mean by that.
And I'm going to use Chad Holmes as an example, because y'all hear Chad.
He's with us every Tuesday morning around 7.50 here.
And then he has had his own program in Warsaw on 98.9 WXCO.
And the same has been said for some of the other stations around the network.
And
In some cases, I mean, filling two hours a day and not rehashing things over and over again can be a bit of a challenge sometimes.
So we thought, hey, we got this big shiny network.
Let's get the best of both worlds in here.
Let's have a network show in the morning, but let's give Apple time.
So four times throughout the course of the show, in the case of the Wausau listeners, around 720 and 750, around 820 and 850, you'll be hearing Chad.
He'll either be talking about things that are in the news.
He might be interviewing newsmakers.
It might be news stories that he or Brittany Merlot or other people are working on.
And the same can be said for some of the other stations in the Civic Media radio network.
And eventually all of them will have local blocks.
So it's almost like, you know, the Today Show and doing the local cut ends at some point.
And I will be here as well, covering kind of the Chippewa Valley area.
for those cut ins.
All right, so that's a little bit about the new structure of the show.
Brittany Merlot will be here just after the seven o'clock news.
She tells us that the state forecast for this morning says a warm front is lifting through the state.
Temperatures are climbing, but it's triggering some rain as well.
Morning showers and storms, especially in southern Wisconsin, then occasional sun.
and then the chance of an isolated thunderstorm later in the day highs in the mid sixties up north to the low seventies in the south the southeast wind at five to ten switching to the southwest for tonight on and off scattered rain lows tonight in the mid thirties up north to near fifty in southern wisconsin and light winds and again she'll be here in about an hour but i can tell you that at the bus stop right now temperature is not that much different from yesterday in the northern two-thirds of wisconsin
It's 45 here in Chippewa Falls, 38 in Hayward, 46 in Amory.
Wausau is at 37, Rapids 39, La Crosse 47 right now, Green Bay 39, it's 46 in Madison, and it's 43 in Milwaukee.
Lorely says a good morning from Vernon County tuning in.
Well, thank you very much for that.
We appreciate that.
Tomorrow on the program, we're going to have Wisconsin Secretary of State, Sarah Godluschi.
She's going to join us around 7.30 and she's going to have, I think, a bit of an announcement to make, or at least something that she's been rumored to maybe be getting set to announce.
So we'll talk to her about that tomorrow morning.
Tomorrow we'll also have Chad Holmes for a visit.
We'll talk to Joseph Pecky, who is our regular political analyst, but also is a candidate for state chair of the Democratic Party.
And we'll have a discussion tomorrow on Robert Kennedy Jr.
and his recent and ongoing offensive and just flat out wrong comments about autism.
So all of that is coming up as well.
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And let me make one thing kind of clear here.
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I love the whole notion of a radio show and it's nice that they slapped my name onto it now.
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Check out the work that she's doing, including a note about this Saturday being National Independent Bookseller Day and the importance of local bookstores throughout Wisconsin.
We would love to have you as a subscriber along the way.
A little sports now, a quarter past the hour.
Christian Yelich hit a grand slam last night.
The fifth of his career, Jake Bowers added a two-run homer as part of an eight-run sixth inning, leading the Brewers to an 11-3 victory over the San Francisco Giants late last night.
For Yelich, it was his fifth home run of the season and his first grand slam in more than three years.
And pitcher Jose Quintana remains unbeaten 3-0 with the Brewers.
He allowed just one run and six hits in six innings of work.
A game three is tonight.
Again, 8-10 is when the pregame will get started on several Civic Media stations throughout the network.
Head over to the Civic Media website to learn more where you can tune in to your Milwaukee Brewers.
The Milwaukee Bucks meanwhile are already in dire straits in the playoffs once again at the hands of the Indiana Pacers who beat the Bucks last night 123 to 115 to go up 2-0 in their best of seven series against Milwaukee The Bucks are down 0-2 despite the return of Damian Lillard about after about a month long health scare He clearly was still not back at a hundred percent yet Which is to be expected when you you can't really work out as he was being treated for a possible blood clot in his leg
Overall, over the past couple of seasons here, the Bucks have lost five of the last six playoff games that they've played against the Pacers.
Game three will be Friday in Milwaukee.
That'll be on NBA TV for most of the country.
And then game four is late Sunday night in Milwaukee.
And you can catch that on TNT.
So I was saying earlier that as I was poking around for some of the things that we might want to talk about.
It included a reminder of the golden age of the internet era and Greg is in that weird middle Category of people who he's not as young a whipper snapper as you know poor people like Dan Hagen who?
By the way, he sends his apologies.
He will be back with us next Tuesday, but Greg isn't yet an elder such as as myself, but
You do remember the early days of the interwebs.
For example, I mean, Yahoo still exists.
But who really goes to Yahoo anymore?
It's there, but it's not.
Weirdos.
Yeah.
And it bounced around.
It was with Verizon for a time.
Anyway, we go through some of these others.
Compuserve.
I thought Compuserve was the greatest back then.
Oh, man.
It launched in 1979.
It was the original online portal with news and chats and file sharing.
H&R Block later bought it and then it went to Time Warner AOL and officially shut down in 2009.
There was Prodigy.
There was Alta Vista.
We thought as we're launching a new chapter We would remind you of previous chapters of the information age Coming up next law and order when it's convenient for Wisconsin Republicans from Madison to Wausau from the heart of America's up north live from Lake Wissota Thanks for making this the place to spend part of your mornings.
I'm pack right along
Welcome to mornings.
Greg Bach there at Radio Park in Racine at Crite Low over here in beautiful Chippewa Falls.
And I meant to say as well that we invite you to help us remember again, some of those early internet brands that you used to use.
And again, AOL everybody got the CDs.
But what else was out there?
Some of them are still around eBay.
Still around.
I think match.com is still a thing.
PayPal.
And of course, I should have had you play the, the empire strikes back music for Amazon, the evil empire, Amazon, which was once just a cute little bookstore.
Remember that?
Well, you know, last,
Oh, when Laura, Laura was on Monday morning and we talked about independent bookseller day coming up.
And she mentioned B Dalton and Walden books.
And I hadn't heard those names in for
Ever and they were like, you know, they were like these magical places to to go and visit and then They went away I used to love bar I used to love borders when that had first come Roger in Steven's point says who uses my space anymore.
I don't know.
It's my space still a thing
I am all good to go.
625 the time right now.
And let's talk about law and order for a moment.
We'll start with the story of how there are now immigration and customs enforcement arrests happening in more places around the country, including recently the Osaka County Courthouse in Port Washington, where at least one person was arrested after a courthouse appearance.
And again, it's not exactly clear who tipped off ICE.
It's not like they're monitoring every courthouse in the country.
And so clearly there are tips that are arriving.
The same thing happened not long ago at the Milwaukee County Courthouse.
And it all is raising some valid concerns about law enforcement because in a couple of different ways.
Folks who are actual victims of a crime who deserve protection
will not be as likely to call for help if they feel like they're going to face, you know, some kind of deportation or I would even argue, you know, it used to be at least an orderly deportation.
Now it's more like a, you know, a kidnapping and put on a plane to some country you may not have even grown up in.
So there's, there's part of that.
But perhaps more importantly for people who, you know, just really can't raise the muster to care about victims of crime is the people who could tip off police about crimes.
and help catch the real bad guys.
The real bad guys aren't the guys in the Home Depot parking lot in cities across the country who are the reason that you were able to get the siding replaced on your house, okay?
You can grouse about that all you want, but it is what it is.
Again, much like the iPhone.
You want that built here?
Sure, 4,000 bucks please.
That's how this economy's gonna work.
If you wanna get that way, get that way.
But if you're going to do it by disappearing people off the streets, well, then it's no wonder that folks like Governor Tony Evers are out there telling people like others that, you know, there are rules to be followed when you are faced with a visit from immigration and customs enforcement.
And so that guidance from the Evers administration recently to state employees drew a lot of fire from Republicans who said it was in defiance of the law.
Governor Evers is reminding people how to abide by the law.
The law is not just for law enforcement.
The law is for everybody, and not everybody knows exactly how to handle something when somebody comes to your door.
Who may or may not, for example, have a warrant.
It was basically, according to the Evers administration, helping to answer questions about how to respond
If immigration and custom enforcement agents or federal agents show up in the workplace, it's a five-point memo.
It tells state employees to remain calm, immediately notify their supervisor, ask the agents to identify themselves, present documentation of why they are there.
The memo advises state employees not to answer questions from agents, not to give them permission to enter non-public areas, not to give them access to paper files or computer systems without first talking to an attorney.
And you know what all those things are?
The law.
So for the folks who talk about law and order, you should want the law followed because, yeah, you might think, well, it's not going to affect me if they're given access to computer systems because they're looking after those illegal immigrants.
You start giving folks access to computer systems that shouldn't have it.
It's not going to be long until it's targeting you as well by some government that you're not as friendly about as you are with the Trump administration right here.
So if you're going to be for law and order, you got to be for all of law in order.
It's kind of non-negotiable that way.
Which takes us to Wausau briefly, where Wausau Mayor Doug Dinney, you recall the guy that, shall we say, took part in some extra legal work to move a drop box because he didn't think it should be outside the city hall.
He didn't like the way it was, you know, not quite ready to be used yet.
He's facing an examination by the city ethics board.
He recently announced new appointments to the city's ethics board, even as they're getting set to do their examination or investigation of his actions.
The other folks, their terms have expired, but they are allowed to stay on the ethics board until the city council confirms their replacements.
You know, like what Republican legislators have said about agencies and leaders at the state government level.
Law and order is not just for when it's politically convenient to you.
You're listening to warnings on the Civic Media Radio Network on this Wednesday.
At the very beginning there, I was expecting Taylor to say he got nothing in my brain.
We can't afford that
Part of the fun that we've been having here setting up the new mornings with Pat Critewell here on the Civic Media Radio Network has been this overhaul of bumper music.
And I think we should go ahead and tell this story because it wasn't something I meant to do.
Yeah.
But we decided we want to
have a different sound for a while here.
So we're looking into basically what we'll call bumper music libraries.
Yeah.
And there are these these music libraries that are out there of things that you can license for a lot less than playing, say, Taylor Swift.
And honestly, there's a lot of catchy stuff out there.
It
Yeah.
And so I thought, well, let's let's get four or five of them and we'll just rotate them and come up with which ones we like.
Well, I was having such a good time one day that I came up and I gave poor Greg and Luke a list of 16 songs.
So just fine.
I'd rather have a I'd rather have more than less.
Yes, exactly.
So again, that's just part of the prize.
The things we've been doing behind the scenes to get ready for the show.
And so I gave this to Greg and Luke and I figured they'll either tell me to, you know, you know, get lost or they'll whatever, they'll work through it.
And they did work through it until I hear from Greg the thing I never expected to hear.
Greg takes the story from there.
Let me use my Spanish.
No, there we go.
Good job.
Way to accent the Oh, uh, so what happened was is Pat sent us a bunch of links.
It's fine.
They're all great links.
It's all great music.
I really enjoy the music.
It's fun.
All of the links.
lead to the Latin American version of the Universal Music Library,
It started in English.
And at one point when I was clicking on one of the songs, I noticed that the title suddenly came up in Spanish.
And I didn't think anything of it because I thought, well, I clearly hit a button someplace that lets you see it in English or Spanish, not realizing that.
Well, if you're on the Spanish language version and they take you to the login screen or whatever, you can't necessarily read the instructions and poor Greg couldn't get into the library to see what all was there.
So this is all still a work in progress.
Well, we're trying to say, but again, the things you don't expect as you're doing all this prep work,
but the thing is the, and this, and I'm not going to get into this part because it's a more of a technical producer process, but I can understand.
I can read a fair amount of Spanish and.
So I was like, all right, they're like, it won't let me download.
So just log into your account.
So I tried to log into my account and said, yep, that's not, it's an invalid login account.
I'm like, no, it's not.
So then I had to go to the English version, log in.
And then the links that you sent me had to be translated from the Spanish into the English versions.
even do this?
of the early
age.
I loved Netscape back in the day.
And since we're doing the websites and things, let's get to the devices.
Because about the same time I was using Netscape, while other people had their blackberries, I had a Palm Pilot.
Oh, God.
And the iPhone is amazing and all that.
That Palm Pilot was the best.
But here's the thing.
We do that now.
And remember how.
Dumb this word first sounded.
Oh, I'll Bluetooth.
I'll use Bluetooth and get that over it.
Bluetooth.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
What the hell is Bluetooth?
And now we just, you know, it's like, that's the thing is Bluetooth.
And I'm sure the people that invented the laser terminology going, really?
I gave you the chance to use laser and you go with Bluetooth.
I don't know.
Can you Google that for me?
What is that?
I love this iMac that's sitting in front of me right now.
Love it.
It was lightning fast.
But like every other computer over time, you know, it's the motor oil starts to gunk up in there.
And the same goes for what Google is now.
What is Google now?
It's just.
it's it's still it's kind of like what Elon Musk did to Twitter in that okay it's still kind of useful but it is nothing like what it used to be
no
because you got all those sponsored links that are up there and others that are kind of you know trying to gin up the algorithm lordy if there's anything I wish I could forget from this age it's learning about algorithms which is just a way of saying you know a business going
No, we'll decide what you see.
I don't need your help.
Not everybody agreed.
She's you over here going, I adored the paper clip.
I'm sorry.
There you go.
We differ just in that respect.
Going back to our previous topic here about the governor giving advice on.
immigration raids and things like that.
Alicia notes properly on YouTube, the governor literally outlined the law.
The outrage Republicans are manufacturing and manipulating is infuriating and Brenda says, thank you, talking about equal and fair administration of the law.
And that's really all that we're talking about in this case.
While we're talking about state government and politics, well actually before I do.
I should have kicked off the segment with this.
Folks going, wait, it's Wednesday.
It was 6.30.
Where's Melissa Baldoff with Climate Check?
That was one of the changes to the show.
And I don't know how I neglected that one.
But Melissa will now join us live on Wednesdays at 8.30.
You know, we've talked on this program a lot over the years about how tough it is to get guests at 630 in the morning.
And so a fair, a fair number of them, with the exception of Dr. Lierly on Mondays, a fair number of them were pre-recorded the day before because people were like, oh man, I'd love to help you, but 630 is so real.
Now suddenly 830 is available.
And there they are.
So Melissa's going to join us at 830.
And there's a good chance we may play it back on Thursdays at 630 the next day for folks that maybe had to go to work and can't catch things.
So yes, Melissa will still be a part of the show.
But I was talking about state government here and the legislature, the state Senate met yesterday.
And in doing so, the state Senate, which I was a part of, now it feels like a million years ago, did
Once again, pass legislation that would allow for Medicaid coverage to expand and cover women who are a year postpartum, a year after childbirth.
Currently, it is 60 days.
And once upon a time, across all 50 states, you had Medicaid coverage for new moms for 60 days after childbirth.
As part of, I believe it was,
If it wasn't directly a part of the Affordable Care Act, it was something afterwards, perhaps through the American Rescue Plan, I forget now.
But that said, here's federal funding states that will allow new moms to receive Medicaid coverage for 12 months postpartum, which is, again, a dangerous time in the life and health of a woman.
It just is.
There are health complications.
There's
drug interactions, there's there's abuse, there's depression, all of these things.
And so what does Medicaid do?
Medicaid provides affordable, stable health insurance coverage.
That's all Medicaid is.
Robin Vos can tell you all day long that it's welfare and he's wrong.
It's stable, affordable health insurance coverage for people with either lower incomes or disabilities or
Their workplace doesn't offer health insurance.
This really shouldn't be hard.
And yet almost every state has expanded covers to 12 months postpartum except Wisconsin and Arkansas.
And Arkansas is changing theirs and getting set to cover women for a year postpartum.
Wisconsin would literally be alone, the one state.
This bill passed the Senate last time around 32 to one.
And the one guy is no longer in the state Senate.
passed yesterday.
This time again 32 to 1 with Chris Cappiga of Dellafield casting the only no vote.
It's going to go to the assembly like it did in the last session and it's probably going to die again.
Even though the bill has so many cosponsors in the assembly that it would pass.
But one guy, one guy is holding it up.
And that would be Assembly Speaker Robin Voss who constantly equates Medicaid to welfare and says he does not want to expand welfare coverage in the state.
Robin Voss is the only thing stopping new moms in Wisconsin from having stable, affordable healthcare coverage and he's doing it based on his own ideology.
Rather than A, the availability of funds and B, the consensus of his own party.
not to mention people throughout the state of Wisconsin.
For one man to have that kind of power to play ideological games with health care is an absolute sin.
But that's what he gets to do until or unless enough people in his own caucus and enough constituents tell him, peacefully, I hasten to add, that this would be the right thing to do.
That this is
not just affordable, not just medically recommended, it is humane.
And that's really, what more can you ask of legislation than to be humane?
Vos went on to say that he felt like he was he was being, I don't think he used the word persecuted, but saying that there were other Republicans who felt the same way as him, but
you know, because he's in the big chair, they're letting him take all the heat.
Would you please come down from your cross speaker boss?
You are not a victim in this in any way shape or form.
It's something it's, it's direct.
But let's say it Robin boss, you're the bad guy in this, you're the villain in this.
And a lot of times a guy like Robin boss will be like, Yeah, I wear that hat proudly.
Not this time pal.
Not this time.
Let that bill come up for a vote, a clean vote, and let it pass.
Today's history lesson is coming up
Roy Orbison was born this day in 1936, passed away far too young at the age of 52 back in 1988, and this hit of his, you got it, was released posthumously, written by Tom Petty and Jeff Lynn.
George Harrison was also in the studio that day.
Just one of the birthdays and other events in today's history lesson, which on Wednesdays includes a visit with our good friend, Melissa Kaye.
From 97.5 WFHR and 105.5 WIRI, Melissa, how are you?
I love how you say that.
Back
live
It would have been a night, trust me.
Let's see.
Baseball legend for the Milwaukee Braves.
Warren Spahn was born this day in 1921.
Actor Shirley Temple was born this day in 1928.
Valerie Bertinelli is 65 years old today.
Little Barbara Cooper from one day at a time.
Mrs. Eddie Van Halen.
Mrs. Eddie Van Halen is 65 today.
George Lopez is 64.
Kenny Chesney released his sixth studio album this day in 2002.
No shoes, no shirt, no
Because that's what the scriptwriters wanted.
Boo, boo.
But I always love pointing out though that John Cena was born, he's 48, so he was born this day in 1977.
And metaphorically in the bassinet right next to him, born that same day, also 48 today, John Oliver.
Yeah.
John Oliver, John Cena.
Not separated at birth believe it or not.
They had different parents.
I know
Dexy's Midnight Runners had the number one song this week in 1983 This is Army Reserve day it was on this day in 1908
that Congress organized a group of 160 doctors to form the Medical Reserve Corps for use during national emergencies.
It was a precursor to what became the U.S.
Army Reserve.
And this is... And MASH.
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